Free With Ads - Death Of A Salesman (1985)

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

This week we celebrated the American Dream by watching a movie about how achievable and real it is! The 1985 made-for-TV-movie Death of a Salesman, starring Dustin Hoffman and John Malkovich. Tune in next week when our movie will be... The 'Burbs. ----- Follow Emily on Instagram and visit Emily's ETSY store FlemGems See Matt at the Punch Line in San Francisco March 3-7 with Beth Stelling.  THE JORDAN MORRIS WORLD TOUR!! (jk, it's just a couple of dates) 2/25 - Collectors Paradise North Hollywood, 5pm - 7pm 2/26 - Predator Double Feature @ The Frida Cinema in Orange County, 7pm https://thefridacinema.org/coming-soon/ 2/28 - Books With Pictures Eugene, OR 12pm - 3pm Also Jordan is doing some dates with the Doughboys. You can get your tickets at BirdFuck.com 2/28 - Portland 3/1 - Seattle

This is free with ads, the podcast that asked the question, why pay $150 bucks a ticket to see Death of a Salesman on Broadway when you can go online for free and watch a made-for-TV version and not have to deal with elderly theater patrons, mucusy, coughing, and blaringly loud cell phone rings. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is the 1985 Death of a Salesman TV movie

that you can totally watch instead of reading it if you need to do a book report. With us as always is the super producer, the he freak. Matt Leeb hitting this with those drops that make us say, hey, maybe the American dream isn't all it's cracked up to be. A man is not a piece of fruit? That's right. A man is not a piece of fruit.

I was so blown away because I know that line from memes. Yes. And I'm like, oh, this is where all those, a man is not a piece of fruit memes come from. You know where it's the anime guy. He's looking at the butterfly and he says, is this a piece of fruit? Oh, yes. Oh, I only know pen pineapple apple pen. That's like the meme I know.

That's also Arthur Miller. I have a will. I have a loamon. Willie Loman. Kids, if you don't remember pineapple pen, look it up. One of the great memes. Yeah, Matt will put it in right here. Pin pineapple apple pan.

Right there. You just heard it. There it is. And you loved it. And you loved it. Or you kind of forgot about it and you're like, ah, that one was,

or you just learned about it. Well, hey, we're going to talk about one of the greatest plays ever written and probably more memes. But first, from time to time, we get questions from listeners and we answer them in a segment call,

We Got Mail. You've got mail. This question is from the subreddit. This is from Reddit user Taco Salad, T-A-A-K-O-Hifened salad. Cool. They write.

If you could step through the screen and enter the fictional world of a movie, which movies universe would you want to visit? Which one would you want to live in? Pride prejudice. Oh, wow. Emily has to answer right off the dome. That was immediate. Okay. I think I'm that level of hot.

Got all these teeth. And, uh... Oh, yeah, your amount of teeth would make you. I got all these teeth. I got every single one. You would just go from mouth to mouth being like, oh, damn, girl. Well, not at this age, though. George, George, George.

I need to be 20 years younger. Yes. You would probably be the oldest person in that world. She has not died of consumption. Who is this goddess? I would give everyone consumption and kill them all and be the last man standing. Right and prejudice, bitch. She's a witch.

I win! I win the Pride and Prejudice games. That's right. Definitely not death of a salesman. We'll get into that. Of all of the movies that we've watched so far, I would say the one that I would love to, like, step in the middle of is Jupiter ascending. Okay.

I just feel like, I don't know, I could trick some people into thinking I'm also a bee god. You know what I mean? I really don't think you seem like a guy who could hang with bees. I could hang with bees. I bet if you were stuck in a room with a bee, you would smash your face into a wall. I know it. I definitely do. I would too.

I shriek and run. And if you're, I mean, if you're, listen, Matt, if you're not, if you want to convince a race of dog people that you are a space princess, it's not a matter of hanging with bees. You've got to control the bees. That's right. That's true. I forgot about the dog people. By the way, just like describing a little bit of Jupiter ascending makes you sound insane. Yeah. I think I'm having a seizure. Like I don't know. Like I forgot about all of that part. Like, yeah, it's kind of crazy. I don't remember dog people, but I just assumed. that that was part of it. But you guys, wait, is Jupiter ascending good? I'm, I feel like I'm, I feel like I, No, you're right that it's not good. You're right that it's not good. Yeah, your initial thought was that it was bad.

You were correct, it was bad. Okay, good, good. It's compelling. It's sure. It's fun to remember every now and then. The freebies would argue that it's a great movie. I think that we love our freebies and the fact that you love us says that you are mostly okay.

All right. Yeah. Exactly. But a great deal of you seem to love repo the genetic opera and Jupiter ascending. And I want to know where does that Venn diagram crossover? Are the same fans of one movie the same fans of the other? Is that happening at the same time? I think a lot of people would say this podcast has a lot of good ideas but just doesn't gel.

Like those movies. A lot of good elements there. You can kind of like see what they were thinking. We're the repo, the genetic opera. That's true. Can I tell you that I've been in a few meetings with people that love our show and love us as individuals. And every time I'm like, listen, we've got a great listener base and I'm so proud of it. And we qualify for, you know, sponsored advertising. But no one wants us.

Someone's going to want us. Because we're so filthy and weird. Like we're so weird and filthy. And that's why our listeners who are dedicated to us, listen, you get it, you get us. That is all that matters. We're little podcast orphans. Just wrap us up in blankets, put us in a basket, and leave us on Hello Fresh's doorstep. That's right.

Baby, baby, baby, don't do this. That's my message to you guys for the sake of the advertisers who may someday join. Who may, who may. Yes, just three little orphans who need a home. Help us. love, would love to give out a promo code. I know people are selling dildos on these podcasts and I just want to say like I know I'm probably the only, I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I'm probably the only one who's going to be

using them. But I know these two gentlemen are very secure in their masculinity and who they are that they will advertise for it too. So if you think about it being two dudes and a lady and think that we can't advertise for things like that are for one specific group, you're out of your damn mind. We're those motherfuckers right here. We are. Anyway, I'll quickly answer the question

As opposed to spending a lot of time Talking about how the podcast doesn't make enough money I think my Jordan, that's not what I'm seeing That's what we're all saying We need to talk about the podcast more on the podcast That people love process That's right

They want to know how the sausage They love us, they want to know how we're doing Great is the answer I would I actually didn't come up with an answer for this That was one of our movies But in general I love the world of the studio Ghibli movies. The food in that is like the most,

the once wonderful animated food you can ever see. I'd love to eat some of it in general. I think those are pretty low stress movies. Where the enemy is like weather. It's like weather. Which we've added a new sting about animated food. So that makes total sense. I wonder if there's any studio jibli movies that are free with ads.

I haven't seen any. They might be too good for us. Yeah. I think they might be locked behind the HBO Max paywall. these days. Basterts. I know. And of course, most of them

are pretty chill, except for like a Princess Monanoque where I think you have to find the decapitated head of a dead God. I don't know. It's been a minute since I've seen it. But in general, the films of Studio Ghibli, probably a wonderful place to live.

Anyway, Hey, Death of a Salesman, we're about to talk about it. Before we talk about this movie, which is as of this recording, streaming free with ads, we want to mention that it does contain suicide. So if that's not something you want to hear us talk about,

we're going to play some music and give you a chance to find another episode. Hey, we're back. It's free with ads. We're going to talk about the 1985 made-for-TV movie version of Death of a Stalesman, starring, among others, Dustin Hoffman and John Malkovich. This was a Matt Leeb pick.

Matt Leib comes in hot with his picks and they're always chaotic. I have weird taste, baby. I like to take you guys on journeys. It's maybe one of the most like, I think, classic educational, like theater screenwriter kind of thing. So it's nice to do something like this. I don't think we've ever done a stage adaptation type movie before. So this is cool.

Yeah, I wanted you guys to experience it because you both had said you had not seen it before. I saw this only one time in high school. And when I saw that it was free with ads, I was like, you know what? I kind of want to revisit this thing because my memory of it was, number one, now I don't have to read the play. Yeah, totally. And number two was that I found it like surprisingly compelling for my age. Like, you know, I was like a 16 year old, a 16 year old high school kid. And it kind of, it stuck with me for a very long time, not only in terms of content, but also the acting in it, I thought was like superb.

So I also knew that it would be really funny for you and me to watch this movie together as people who are on an aforementioned struggling podcast. Listen, I don't think we're struggling. I'd say that we're an underdog, and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't think Willie Lohman would be a fan of us. I think he'd be disappointed in us. Oh, we're three biffs. This show is about, this show is three biffs talking about movies that they like. We're biffing it.

If you're saying. The three biffs. But I will say that, so I went to college for theater. So of course you've got to watch Death of a Salesman, but I watched the Brian Denehy version from 2000. That was the version I watched, and it was so different, like the experience of watching that versus this one, just in the stature of the actor playing the lead, which had a huge effect. A huge man. Yeah, Brian Denning, he's a big, intimidated guy.

And it was the 2000s, so it was a lot of, like, early CGI, right? A lot of, kind of awkward. You know, they don't really have it yet. Andy Circus actually plays the hose that goes into the gas pipe. Right, yeah. He had his spidey web came out the wrists instead of out of a machine. Sure, exactly. But I just remember, this play is legendary for a reason.

It is brutal. It is not pleasant, but it is engaging and you can't look away. There is no denying it. But this was a little bit harder for me to get into, but once I was in, it was something. But Brian Denny, he is a giant dude, is way scary. So was Dennyhee playing Willie Lohman? Yes. That's an interesting read on it.

See, for me, Willie Loman will always be... Be a little guy. Yeah, a little guy. It makes more sense for him to be... Totally. Hoffman, which I didn't know how old Dustin Hoffman was. He was born in 1937, which I did not know. Yeah.

That dude, old as fuck. Like, I did not know how old... Like, in 1985, he's like, you know, 50-ish. He is wearing age. makeup in this movie. Yes, he is. But, and it does kind of feel a little clunky in a way.

Sure. It doesn't look that cool. Yeah. But it's like, then I went, oh shit, he really is an older actor that I didn't realize. I thought he was like a 30 year old man with like a gray wig. Yeah. That's so.

Yeah, bald cap slips a couple times in this. Well, the John Malkovich wig is the worst hat, by the way. I'm calling it immediately. Okay. Do the sting. The worst hat A wig can be a hat It can

But anyway So I just remember the version I watched And thinking, oh, this ain't gonna be shit And then it's completely changed my opinion On how the play works And is written and the characters as a whole So did I like it? Not gonna tell you yet.

Let's gotta stay tuned. Don't just listen to the first couple minutes of the episode. Listen to the whole thing. Let's start. talking about it. We open with someone driving an old car. Is it a salesman?

Yeah, you better believe it. Oh, a life of the salesman at the beginning. Sure, yes. But what will happen to the salesman, if you forget the title, you'll be surprised. Yes, this is Willie Lohman, one of the most famous characters in all of literature. He arrives home where his wife, Linda,

played by Kate Reed, greets him with a weird greeting asking if he smashed up the car again. This is a weird thing that will come back around and be very tragic, but apparently this guy's always crashing cars. He can't stop. And he's, you know, he's getting a little old. He's kind of, he's, you know, he's got some old man qualities. This is why they don't let me drive. Sure, too old.

Different, no, yeah, different reasons, but don't let me drive. Sure. So yeah, he, he's been a salesman of what? We never, we never hear. He is kind of an every man. They'd never tell you what he sells. Actually, this is kind of interesting. There wasn't early draft of the play where Arthur Miller did say what Willie Wilman sold

and it was pocket pussies. So, yeah, that's just, you know, but they kind of, you know, removed it so he would be, you know, more relatable. Yeah, yeah. general American American archetype Sure I do love reading the you know

uncut version of his of his play Uncut Death of a salesman of pocket pussy Pussy's Death of the Pocket Pussy

Salesman Yeah that's right So anyways he so he lives in this in this beautiful house with his wife and his two Beautiful house

fucking loser sons Happy and Biff Happy and Biff were both in their 30s. Biff, we mentioned, played by John Malkovich. Uh-huh. But the star power in this doesn't fucking stop. Happy is played by Colonel Miles Quarich, roughneck leader of the RDA,

here to mine Pandora of its unobtainium and chased down the traitor Jake Sully. We are not in Kansas anymore. He's amazing. He's also from a family of, like, activists. and stuff. His upbringing is pretty interesting. Like his daughter is also in politics.

Like activists. He was also in Don't Breathe, which is one of the scariest movies I have ever seen. And I've talked about The Ring with you guys, but how I consider that to be a feminine horror movie. I consider Don't Breathe to be a feminist horror movie in a way. Interesting. Because the most horrifying thing that could ever happen to you as a woman is in that movie. Is someone squirts coming you with a turkey baster?

For real. Sorry. Spoilers for that. But it had the biggest twist. I think that movie is a masterpiece. He is an amazing actor. Every actor in that movie is amazing. I wish that actress who was in that and the Evil Dead remake.

I want her, I want to see her in everything. Anyway, that movie is so terrifying. And I went, they were making it scary for me as a woman. This movie was meant for me. Steve Lang.

That actor is amazing. Stephen Lang. Yeah, he's, it's cool, cool to see a young version of him. And yeah, I think he's always just kind of been a, like... Hotter as an old man. Yeah, yeah. 100%. And hotter with a bunch of fucking scars that he got from fighting the Navi.

And him trying to kill Jake Sully. And trying to kill Jake Sully. Which also, he, like, had so much, like, baby fat on him in this movie. Yeah. And it's so weird to see this tough guy who plays tough guys be this kind of pushover character in this movie. It was kind of like... Oof, brutal to like watch this sweet, like little doughy version of him as this character. And it made me so sad.

And they, yeah, and they're both. And they're both kind of like, like losers of various kinds. And we kind of see them in their like childhood bedroom in their jammies. In their 30s. In their 30s. And like smoking in their jammies. This looks kind of fun. I'd love to like smoking some jammies.

I know. I thought it was kind of cute. I mean, it was to me, I'm like, guys. Listen, it is already sad that you're both now living with your parents again in your 30s. We've all done it. I understand it. You know, it's more and more common. Do you have to wear the jammies too with a little butt flap on it? I think it was the 40s and people just wore jammies.

I guess maybe adults wore jammies to bed. They were wearing like the Dick Van Dyke two piece, like top, bottom, like with the robe jammies, which I think are very distinguished. They still look like little boys to me. But I do think that there was a thing, I guess for us, especially in the 2000s when the other one came up. I don't know if millennials were being shit on as like losers who have to live at home. Yeah. But it's like this was predicting something.

Oh, yeah. America was this. And I know that, you know, I know you suggested this, Matt. And you are a man of very political. Sure. Integral. Like, you have a lot of integrity. That's right.

I hope. What are your political opinion? opinions. I had no idea. I got lots of opinions. What are they? It's supposed to be a big metaphor for capitalism and America as a whole, is the whole movie. But I think it's kind of sweet

that the both of them live there. And also that woman is going to die if they're not there. She's going to get kicked to death by a tiny man. A tiny man who thinks he's kicking a ball. Exactly.

She's like, oh me playing with Biff. We're playing soccer balls together. Throw in the old pink skin around. Just kicking his wife to death. It's wild. But also the house is garbage, but the set is really cool. It is.

Yeah. Kind of like bridging the gap between like a theater set and a movie. But we could have gotten a fresh paint. Lacker on the house. No, that was ruined it a little bit. But yeah, we do, we do like pull back a couple of times to show that they're on a set, which is like, you know, so arty and Brechtian. And it's fucking wild to think this was just on like.

TV in the 80s. Imagine if they like, guys grocery games will not be seen tonight so we could see all my sons. Like it's just like it's a big thing on network TV. We just showed this fucking already play. This did happen because like, okay,

I don't know if when you guys were a kid Mary Martin's Peter Pan which is one of my favorite movies of all time. Yeah. But that was something. We watched that every time we would stay with Uncle Joey. Is Uncle Joey? Okay.

Is he okay? Uncle Joey is a prince. Uncle Joey, a good uncle's story. He had a lot of parrots and he's amazing and he paints his garage for Christmas.

He sounds great. Ultimate uncle. Okay, sounds like great uncle. And he had Mary Martin's Peter Pan on VHS. We had it too. We all clapped when Tinkerbell died except for me.

I wanted that bitch dead. But anyway, I think that televised stage productions have kind of been a thing that has existed over time. Oh, yeah. Like, they did it. They tried to bring it back a little bit with like sound of music.

Oh, yeah. Kering in their wood in there. Greece live and stuff. Yeah, but it used to be more often, but this isn't a musical. This is just a play. And a very dark one at that. Yes, that's true.

It's true, but it's one of the most famous plays there is. True, true, true, true. Yeah. But yeah. But happy and Biff, they're both, you know, Losers are talking about women they fucked and like ideas for businesses. If this was now,

these two guys would be talking about a podcast they want to start. Yes. It would have, the premise would be too complicated and they would be wanting to do a $50,000 Kickstarter for it. What the fuck are you?

Either that or crypto. Crypto. Yeah, crypto. You know what I just realized. Happy's a crypto guy. What it would be called, it would be called, my biff,

my biff and me. Shut up. That's what it would be. The Loman brothers. The thing about Willie is that he seems like he's on drugs or he's drunk and he's not. No, he's just. He's losing his mind. Raw dogging insanity.

So like that's what I'm like, he's not even drunk. Like there's no way to fix this guy. Yep. So yeah. So Willie's, so the boys are complaining about not having jobs. Willys downstairs. This house. This house is just, it's a, it's a weight around him.

He's come. Oh, a magic. complaining about owning a home. We are grandparents' generation. Oh, good. I'm glad I'll never own one then. Honestly, this house. Way, I own a home.

No. This house can fix. No, this house made me very glad that I don't own a home. Every time they talked about it, every time they like, it was falling apart, whatever, it made me go, oh, God, why ever own a home? Yeah. That's the message of the. movie home ownership bad that's right yeah that's everything would be great for the lowmans if they

just uh you know rented if they just rented in new york yeah built a little yeah rented uh maybe had a do you sure sure sure anyway it's a d u an additional an additional unit in your house wow you guys know so many things i'm recording this podcast from an adu yeah really it's an additional unit. It's an additional unit. The cat's back there with a white flag. Oh, she's not allowed in the ADU. She can't see what happens in the ADU.

Anyway, so Willie has these like visions, and we're not sure how real they are. Again, he's losing his mind. But some of these seem to be flashbacks. Some of them seem to be like fantasies. Yeah, we're not really sure what's a job. dream and what's reality, but he sees like, he sees like his boys as kids. And they, you know, it's just the same two actors in like a little kid like high school clothes. Right. And their kid acting like, you know, this is kind of big theater acting that they're doing. And when they have

to be kids, they like change their acting by just opening their mouths a little to where it looks like they're always going, oh. Yeah, yeah. Bro. Dad. Oh. I just saw a cat die. Oh. Oh. But can I say how it's... I just killed a spider. Yeah. How impressed I am to see John Malkovich throw a football. I know. Isn't that strange?

Spiral. Look at that. I was like, oh my God. Yeah, it was... He's also a giant. That guy is gigantic. And the hairpiece they gave him, by the way, is like a hair piece that sits so far on the front of his head.

And then the hair line goes so far back. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the one for when he was young. Yeah. And I was like, what network? So they're all happy tossing the ball around in the backyard, talking about how Biff is going to be a, you know, college football star.

He's got all these universities that are after him. And then his, so Willie's brother, Ben, comes to visit. Ben's at the brother's name? Ben. That's right. And Ben is like, what Willie could have been? Like, Ben is the, like, if I just, he is dead, but also if I made different decisions. Yes.

At least he completed something, you know. He's like, he's led this life of adventure. He's like, I walked into the jungle when I was 17 and I walked out when I was 21. And he's been to Alaska and he's got mines. So, yeah, they do a great job of just this guy dropping a little bit of information about his amazing life that he's had. And yeah, so he's the guy. that Willie wants to be. So he kind of sees this guy

kind of come in and out of his dreams and his sons are really into him. At some point, he says to like... Wait, can I ask a question about the bend of it all? Because that is the most slippery thing with consciousness that I find in this play. Was he ever really there in the first place?

Did he ever actually meet his sons? Did he die like way before he ever knew what these things happened to him? Did he make up the fantasy of his brother's success in his mind. Like, because this adventurer who goes to Africa and makes a lot of money. It's almost like cartoonish, you know. It's a little unlikely.

Also, he's dressed like Mark Twain and, like, and walks in and I'm like, I wouldn't wear all white linen if I was in Africa personally. But like, it seems to me that to me, he is a fantasy the whole time and that his kids never, but his kids never talk about him. ever outside of the moments where he supposedly was there with them. My guess to that question is that he is real. He's someone who, as Willie says in the play, he didn't really know him. He was a child back when he was, Ben was leaving home and making a name for himself. He met him possibly one time ever. and it was the scene that you see with him

like pushing Biff over and being like, yeah, you got to learn when a stranger is around. You have to learn to protect yourself or something. I think he actually... He's like, take a swing at me, and then everybody laughs because that was just a game in the 40s. Punch your uncle. Punch your uncle, everybody.

Oh, he might punch you back. TV won't be invented for a while. Punch your uncle. I don't know, but that sounds like a Willie Loman fantasy. It might be. His brother coming back and teaching his sons to be tough and that you have to get somewhere. I think he's a phantasm.

I don't think that... Yeah, it's possible. I think it's more likely that he built him up in his head as like beyond it being just a... You know, someone he wishes he was. I think it's also he represents like the opportunity that he missed. The unattainable fantasy that is so unrealistic. that not even his real brother would ever have done it.

He thinks he missed an opportunity because he's convinced that the world is, at least at one point, is filled with opportunities that he's just too, has too much bad luck to get, not realizing that the world, that he's poor and the world isn't filled with opportunities. And the dream is not real. Who knows?

So, yeah. So, you know, they have this vision of the, uncle perhaps it's real perhaps it's not kind of back in the back in the present they're kind of like he and his wife are talking about you know how their kids are fuck-ups his this actress who I've never seen in anything else she's incredible yeah she really is incredible and this character wow what what a like athletic emotional like yes like fluffy like delicate um funny yeah feminine and like Oh, this is the part of a lifetime, which the other one, the Dennygie or whatever, the one I watched, that actress, I don't know either. It seems like it's kind of a theme of whoever plays, you know, the mother of that.

Yeah, whose name I don't even fucking know, and that says something. It's usually not a very well-known actress, which is like these are theatrical greats, I'm sure. But she was excellent in this movie. Yeah, she's true. Because, I mean, she has to know so much that she's not saying. She has to know that he's trying to kill himself. She has to probably know that he's cheating on her. Like, and just kind of power through and be, you know, a happy mom.

It's true. And I think that her, we know that the sons know things that they think she doesn't know. Right. Right. But I think she knows everything. Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally. And I think that that is the biggest tragedy of, in my opinion, of this story is that she is the strong.

strongest, smartest person in the whole family. Yes, 100%. But she is stuck in this role. And then her sons don't even realize how, like, aware and smart she is. And she still loves this man and cares about him living or dying, even though she knows everything. Like, it's an amazing part. Wow. She, she mentions that she, like, talks about a watch.

He said he sold his watch to pay for Biff's, oh, gosh, I have it down. Biff's radio correspondence course. So Biff did kind of try and start a podcast. He did do the 1949 version of I need to start a podcast. 100% he did. I did not realize that. It's listen. He went to podcast production school.

He did. And he flunked out of that. In the 40s. Oh, it's so funny. So anyway, it's, you know, losers are, they're always, you know, losers never change. That's right. So Biff is the one that, like, is, his father's kind of disappointed in him because he was the football star, right?

And well-liked. And well, that well-liked thing. Oof, that is the American everything. Doesn't that, yeah, doesn't that fucking hurt. Oh, my God, it is so true. But his younger brother, like, who was, it seems like they never, they love him, but they never really paid attention to him as a prospect of success. Right. And he seems to be the happiest member of the family because of him.

of that. He has simple needs. He likes to get his lucky and his sucky. If you don't have the weight of expectation and like possibility and potential, you get to just be. They have no expectations of him to such an absurd degree. But he still like cares about everyone and loves everyone. But he is just kind of like, I'm happy to not be in this stressful like triangle that you're

dealing with. He's always trying to keep things on an even keel. He really is. He is like the equilibrium. He's like the peacekeeper. Yes. Yes. So we kind of like see, you know,

Willie and his wife kind of relate to each other. Willie and Linda and he calls her pal. He's like, you're a great pal. I hate that. I mean, that's just such a great like. Insight into the relationship. You know he cheats on her as soon as he says that. Yeah.

And then we do go. to a thing. I think this did really happen. So we go to him, like, in a hotel room. Well, we know it did. So he's in a, you know, he's in a hotel room with his mistress. Who's a, who's a girl from a play. She has the, she talks with the goyel and the play voice. If you got a, if you got to have a play, you got to have a coil that talks like this. It's a nice. I'm a poison. Listen, the, the platinum blonde wig, the outfit, killing it. That is great. She looks great. She looks Classy, classy. She didn't look like a, like an overly tardy kind of like showgirl.

A class act. A classic act. A single young girl who's probably like a working girl, like not in prostitution or sex work. But like she's got a cool job and she's got good hair. And she's like, I'll fuck this guy. So yeah. So yes, he calls his wife pal, but his mistress says to him, you're such a kidder. The scintillating sexual chemistry.

Ooh. I love to fuck someone and then be called. called a kidder. What time, is this the 20s or what time period is this? Yeah, I think it's the 40s. Okay. Yeah, I think the play came out in 49 and I think it's supposed to be contemporary. Right.

Yeah, I guess you could set it whenever you want, but this is probably set traditionally when it was supposed to be set. Yes. But yeah, I mean, if you restage it, just have fucking happy be into Bitcoin. That's right. Honestly. It's the same play. Anyway.

Way. Willie Lomans trying to sell facta meals door to door. Promocode Loman. Promo code hose that goes into the gas pipe. I got a truck full of herbal life supplements. I got leggings in my garage, see? Gwyneth Paltrow's got a bunch of raw milk in this truck between our house. Again, you can just, it's the same thing.

It's a universal. It's not remarkable. Listen, don't. Don't fuck that up. We will take a Casper mattress. We'll do it. Oh, sure. We'll do it in a second.

Promote. I will fuck a Casper mattress. I will do whatever Willie and Wilman's mistress did. God damn right. So Willie is like he has been like not fired but kind of soft fired from his job. Like he's not getting a salary anymore, but he's like going on these long drives and, you know, like trying to get commission from selling this, you know, whatever it is he sells. but he's not getting it and he's actually like borrowing money

from like their family friend played by Charles Durning yeah just like fucking great like a lot of a lot of like Cohen brothers regulars in this movie that we love to see It's so true which I'd say that like Denehy

that he's like the the value menu version of Denehy wouldn't you say? Yeah yeah very different men Timu Denahe. That's right.

They're very different features, but I'd say our guy in this movie, he's got a comedic musical theater, which I do want to watch Best Little Horhouse in Texas. There is some, like, you know, cultural insensitivity in that movie, but I hope our fans will understand it. Disagree.

Yeah, well, I mean, whatever. Horrors is fine, whatever. But he is the best part of that movie. And I would really like to watch it. But his role in this is, he's the neighbor that you wish you had. He's so sweet. He's the neighbor with the dorky son who is going to be very successful.

Right, but he cares about Willie when he hears him. I think he knows that he's having some rantings and ravings and mental health issue. And then he comes over and tries to help him. He plays cards with him. Go to sleep by playing cards with him. And it, oh, that scene really made me sad. Like, it's so sweet. So Willie kind of like goes to see like his boss to like ask for a job where he doesn't have to drive anymore.

Emily, the boss played by an old co-star of yours. Tell us more. Mr. John Polito. This is very young, young John Polito. It's crazy. I did not recognize him at all. I knew him from his voice immediately. His voice is pretty iconic.

John Polito, he was again, we were talking about Colin Burr. brothers stuff like John you'll see him in Coen brothers he is one of the most remarkable people I ever had the privilege of meeting at one point back in the day 2014 I had a big agent and then it all went to shit one day it didn't go to shit it just didn't end up continuing but I got cast in this thing called NBC I can't remember what it was but it was like Monday night football. Yes,

Monday night football. But NBC Playground was the name of it. So it was this thing where agencies like had their newer clients who were writers submit little, like submit pilots to NBC and they chose five of them. And then they like produced them in hopes that they would maybe become a show. Spoiler alert, none of them did. But one of the ones that. I know.

What? But it was such a privilege because one of them that I auditioned for was about a bunch of Brooklyn, like apartment brokers. It was called broker. And it's about this little like broker office in Brooklyn. And John Polito was the owner of the office. So I was like one of his like head salespeople. but my boyfriend who worked there too, we had had a breakup and it was affecting our sales.

So I got to have this great saying with him where he's like interrogating me about it. And he was so kind. Here's the thing, he did not have to do it. Like he showed up for this little short thing. And I hung out. He's who convinced me to hook up with the steady cam operator who had Velcro walls.

Okay. So that's how that happened. There you go. That's how that happened. because he thought he was cute because a lot of people don't know, John Polito, very proud gay man. Oh, I didn't know that.

I know. And he was like, he's cute and you're cute and you should fuck the steady cam guy. And I was like, really? He's like, it might not work out, but it's a story you could tell for 20 years. Yes, that's exactly what he said. He also talked to me about how, you know,

he made a ton of money in his career. He loved drugs and he loved parties. And he blew all of it. all of his money in the course of one year. Good for him. Wow. I love a cool guy. And he went, of course, I made it all back.

It's fine. It's like, fine. And I'm like, yeah, you're sitting. I don't have to be an NBC playground. Exactly. You're sitting with me in like a closet in the back of this thing because you want to be. But it's true. He told me that he just loved to work.

He didn't care what gig he got. He would show up. He wanted to work. And he's great. He's great in everything. I know the big Lobowski. He plays the, He's a private.

He's the private detective who keeps following around Jeff Lobowski until he finally, follow around the dude until he finally pulls him out of the car. And then he says, the Knutzen's. That's how I know him. But I will say this. He stayed till the end of the day, even when his stuff was wrapped. He wanted to hang out with all of the actors and all of the crew and tell them stories and give us encouragement.

He passed away a couple years later. I didn't know that. But he was, I'll never forget it because if you can be someone that successful and that talented and still be kind to a bunch of nobodies and give them the time of day, like that is who you want to be, right?

Yeah, 100%. So John Polito, wherever you are, you're definitely in heaven. You're not in hell. And if you're in hell, you're in the cool part. And I'll see you there, bitch. Thank you. Well, yeah.

Can people see this? Is this like on your reel or something? If you go on my IMDB, there's definitely clips, but I'll find a way, you know, our fans end up finding. Like, they found that pilot I did for Discovery Channel, like out of nowhere. And they found ghosted busters. So if you guys can find this before I do, go right ahead. And they actually found my home address, so I will have to move again. I'm having to move again.

Well, they need to find you as the surfer guy in that commercial that you did that one time. Oh, with NBC Force Fritz Coleman. That is a great commercial. Thank you. It's the thing my mother is the proudest of. I mean, it's a good commercial. It's great commercial. It rules.

You are very funny in it and your hair is huge. My first, like, on-camera thing that I did when I moved to L.A. was I got cast in a commercial for the local weather with our local weatherman in BC Ford's Fritz Coleman. It was very fun. I played a stone surfer guy. And you played it immaculately. Cut it out. Truly, it was, I remember we played it on the big screen at at midnight when I first started working.

Oh, yeah? Sure. We were all kind of playing little clips of weird shit we'd done. And I was like, this is really good. Gail was so proud. I was so proud. I'm proud of you too. But yeah, find that and find my broker pilot.

And that would be great. There you go. Well, yeah, hey, so we are kind of about to get to the thrilling climax of Death of a Salesman. And we're going to talk about that when we come back. We're back. It's Free With Ads. We're going to talk about the finale of Death of a Salesman. Will he live or will he die?

As the title implies. Musical guests, Willie Lohman. Willie Lohman. Musical guest tube on a gas pipe. And featuring Charles Durning. Anyway, so Biff makes these references to like something that happened in Boston and we finally get to see what it is. So when Willie is with his mistress,

Biff comes to find him. So he like finds dad and the mistress in this like shady hotel. Dad like tries to hide the mistress in the bathroom. Biff breaks in and talks about how he's like flunking out of math class and how he's, you know, this is going to keep him out of college. The mistress comes back in, falls on the bed, a booop pops out. Straight up, straight, straight titty. Was that on TV in the 80s? Straight titty falls out. The boob? Straight titty falls out. Wait, what network had this on?

Was it HBO? It was probably three of... The titty networks, baby. I don't know which one, but I saw straight up ariola. This is a bun, NBC stands for boob. This wasn't magical world of Disney. Like, I don't know.

Maybe it was Fox spelled FUX. Yeah. Magical world of... The motorboat world of Disney. Hi there, I'm Michael Eisner. Dump him out. Dump them out, says Michael Eisner. Oh, straight up, there's a titty there.

I rewind, I rewound it. Yeah, me too. I was like, that was titty, right? You do, you see a boob? This is great. So, yeah, so that's kind of like what drove the wedge between him and Biff. It kind of like stunted Biff in a way

where Biff never... Drove the wedge, it, like, somehow kind of ruined Biff's life. And I always... I think to the... this day I still kind of have a problem with how he reacted to. I mean, it's a really moving scene because I think, you know, the idea of, you know, one of your parents who you idolized, yeah, being brought down to earth in that, you know, fashion where you realize that they're a

scumbag. He's not perfect. He's like, uh, he's a scumbag. He's cheating on your mom, you know, that it's a big sense of betrayal. Well, don't you think there's also this whole thing about the pressure that he's under to be perfect. Right. And then to feel like, why am I being so hard on myself when this man is evil towards my mother? Also, the only reason I'm doing any of this is to make you proud of me. And now it's like I want the approval of you, you fucking fake, you scumbagged, boned. Yeah, I'm not proud of you.

Yeah, exactly. And so he immediately is like, fuck college. Why do I need to go to college? Yeah, totally. And, God, Malcovic is so good in this scene. And, like, he even with the fucking weird wig and the, like, letterman jacket they're making him wear, he's just fucking in it and, like, acting his ass off. And he says to his dad, you gave her mama's stockings. My fucking God.

Which harkens back to another scene where she's like, I have to mend my stockings. And he throws them in the trash because he's like, fuck your stockings. I don't want you. Like, that's clearly why. I also love that he responds to you gave her mama's talking with, and I gave you an order. Yeah. Tell you, I gave you an order to get out of here and pretend you didn't see anything. It's so heartbreaking.

I really do love the casting on this because of how small Dustin Hoffman is. I know, his stature. But his acting is anything but small. It's so boisterous to the point where his sons who are very tall are like cowering. around him so that you forget the stature of Dustin Hoffman. It's really amazing. It's a perfect thing for an adult to see. Like when I was a kid, it was one thing.

As an adult, I see it and go like, yeah, even your old frail dad, you know, yelling at you. It's scary. It's scary. It turns you into a little boy. And, you know, you just don't see him as frail until. Well, also, I've heard that Dustin Hoffman could be a real constant. I'm sure he is a con, but he's a great act. I'd say,

Bad man, bad man. Yeah, Merrill Street might say he's a real piece of work. But he is like, but the fact that I didn't know how old he was, that 1937 is when he was born. So he's still alive right now. That means he's fucking 90, y'all. Isn't that crazy? Like when he was Captain Hook, what was he? I mean, I don't know what time is anymore.

We're old. but like he has been old forever. Well, yeah, so this is kind of like, this explains, you know, a lot about Biff and Willie's relationship. We kind of go back to the present. Everybody's yelling at each other in the kitchen. They all kind of like say the things that they've been afraid to say. And they pull out the hose.

And they pull, oh, yeah, yeah. So I think something we've danced around a little bit, but haven't explicitly mentioned is we learned that like Willie's been doing these car accidents on purpose. and he's also been trying to like suffocate himself in the garage. And like his wife has just been hiding the hose. And just, you know, it's all just family conspiracy to like keep him alive. And you know, they kind of have one final fight kind of biffly, you know, kind of lays out his philosophy of just like wanting to work outside and whistle.

And like that being what happiness is. He just wants to be mediocre. Like there's nothing wrong with not being the best at everything. It is okay. It is incredible this last scene. Like for anyone watching it, I remember while I was doing my rewatch of it, thinking to myself, I was mostly thinking about you, Emily, and I was like. Not being the best at anything? Well, no, no, no.

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. What I mean is in terms of the, you know, because I hadn't seen this movie since high school and the pacing of it is like, obviously it's a play. So there's, I'm thinking about our ADHD and I'm thinking about the way in which. this movie may not be the most ADHD friendly. And then as were... But that's on purpose, I think. I think that's...

Well, I mean, it's... It's a play. So that's how it is. You really do have to kind of watch it. And, and, but at the point at which we get to this final scene, there is, I was like, there's no way that Emily or anyone with ADHD is going to be able to get to this final scene and not feel it immensely. It's just, it's so,

well done and it's the culmination of so much tension that's you know been brewing and roiling under the surface for the entire play and it's so good i know that the metaphor of this play which if if you went to school for theater or if you just went to high school and had an english class and they read it the metaphor is about how capitalism will like you like the boot of it will you will suffocate underneath it yes exactly um and that sometimes hope is a curse. Right, yes. And also wanting to, you know, believing that you are going to be more than just a person.

Or just believing that life is more or what is the next thing or what is the next, nothing is ever enough is going to suffocate you. But if you are somebody who is on a different neurological plane, like I think the three of us have discussed. Honestly, I found this to be a little bit soothing because it was proving the fact that just accepting like your own mediocrity can be very like joyful and like if you can just embrace that I'm not supposed to be all the way the fuck up there and who the fuck is happy all the way the fuck up there anyway.

Like, I'm happy just whistling with my own thumb up my ass in my tiny apartment. I don't give a fuck. I don't need to have a better help fucking sponsorship. Suck my dick, Amy Poler. Eat my ass.

That's right. I'll send this directly to. No, we love you. We love you. We love you. Yes, give us your money, bitch. If you could tell Walmart about us. Yeah, please.

But also, I'm, I've, this movie looks like so much torture of like constantly trying to be more and more and more that like the youngest brother is like he's the one who's winning out of this whole thing yeah so great honestly so i don't know yeah so that that's the you know they have this big kind of knock down drag out family fight which i have one clip from oh yeah please ooh fight fight fight is the word of your undoing what is that from i don't know what the fuck that's from That's from this. He says spite is the word of your undoing.

It's not like you saying fie. Oh, no, spite. He's talking about, you know, the fact that he believes that everything that Biff is doing is out of spite for him. He's unable to believe that, you know, Biff is his own person and that he's not the one and only reason that Biff's life is horrible or whatever is because of him. I'm glad you explained that because if it was five, five, I'm like, bitch,

this is not a Shakespeare podcast. We are not doing that shit. We're not five, five, five, five and nothing. That's right. That's right.

So yeah, five, five, it happens. And then Willie, they kind of like hug it out. Entourage style. Yeah.

These guys are the original. Oh, yeah. Willie and Biff and Happy, they're the original entourage boy. Wait, both things are very much about how capitalism sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

No, one is about how a TV show sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're very right. I never actually watched Entourage. I watched Entourage the same way that I watched men play Halo. It was a lot of my time spent trying to get fingered. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say. Fing story!

Oh, it's in there, fine, we did it. Fingering Story. So yeah They hug it out And then everybody kind of goes to bed Willie sees one last vision of his brother Beckoning him outside Willie

I think we are led to believe Hopps in his car crashes on purpose We hear a lot of nose Yeah And then we see a little bit of Willie's funeral And kind of everybody says their piece And the last little bit

Stunning like Yeah as her mom going We're free Like gorgeous And yeah That's that's death of a salesman. Did anyone else?

We're all marching to the grave, but first we got to do the hunk wise. Wait, wait. The grave consumes us all, but you got to do the hunk. Yes, I'm going to. Considering the grave part of it, like, no, no, no, we're going to do it. But I don't know if everybody else who's, I've never seen the play live, but the background behind the fence of the house is a graveyard. Yes, they're in a graveyard, yeah.

Is that in every play? I imagine it is. I haven't seen every play. That's brilliant. I mean, well, I've never seen anyone do it live. If anyone comes to Los Angeles

and does a like local production, we got to go. But I think that that graveyard like painting that was behind the set. I remember going fuck. This shit is a bleak. But yeah, you know what my hunk watches. I don't.

We don't. There's no way to tell. Emily, you have to tell us. It's John Polito, baby. Yeah, there it is.

It's a young John Polito that's, scene is so brutal. He has to come in and out and he's the son of a man who used to like be the boss. Yeah, who used to be the boss of Mr.

Hoffman and like that, or Willie Loman and him having to sit there after his father has passed away and look at a relic of his father's life and like not. Going crazy and yelling at him. Yeah, but it's like so his character is not only confronting

the fact that his own father is dead. He's confronting the fact that his father's choices beyond the grave are affecting him in like this powerful, like, really sad way. Oof, that part. And he isn't like an evil, like, mean son of a...

No, yeah, he's not even like a caricature of an evil capitalistic boss. He, like, fires him for... He loves his kids and he has a recorder of them whistling. I know. How sweet was that? It's very cute. So nobody in this play is an evil person.

It's America and capitalism that is the evil entity. I know, I know. I went to college. But his character is... We're not saying you didn't go to college. Why are you yelling at us? I went to college in Arkansas. We believe you.

I know. I went to college in Arkansas and I'm always trying to prove to people that I'm smart. You are smart. Daddy Loman, please tell me I'm good. Tell me I did a good job, please. I hate you. Don't give away Mother's Pets. Anti-hoes.

Stop stealing pens from prospective employers. Yeah, honestly, this movie is giving me a fucking complex. I'm so glad to watch something else. But anyway, yeah, John Polito's character, and he's so young in this movie and different, and it was such a pleasure just to see him. And he's a wonderful human being, and his legacy is magical.

And watch all his movies, y'all. He's wonderful. Jordan, who's your hunk? That lady who's booed? came out. Matt, how about you? Mine is going to be happy, happy Loman. Mostly because

I just, I relate to him on a level of being a blind guy who spooge has come into a woman's pussy with a turkey bastro? I've not seen that movie. You're conflating the two movies, Emily. Sorry, I'm sorry. The one is an actor. I have a fetish.

We all do. No, I relate to him being the peacemaker who's just like what wait why are we trying to make our insane dad like more sad? Because you want to do drugs with Varong yes but oh wait that's the okay I'm so now I'm doing it now I'm conflating the movies he's been in this he is a character written by Arthur Miller

and so I also really relate to him just liking the fuck I thought that was cool my favorite part actually is when they care so much more about Bifth than they do about him that at one point he says this to his parents. I'm going to get married, mom. I wanted to tell you.

Go to sleep, dear. Hilarious. In a movie with basically no humor, this is such a fucking funny joke. She like, she nails this. Especially coming from the woman who's in the most painful marriage of all time. She's like, bitch, get the fuck out of my face. Like, don't marry into this family. Por favor.

I'm pretty sure Willie says to him like, okay, good for you. They don't give a shit about him. You're not. Yeah, that's the hunk watch. We're going to say what we thought about the movie overall when we come back. We're back. It's free with ads. We are going to tell you what we thought of death of a salesman,

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Maximumfund.org slash join and Maxfundstore.com if you want to check out our merch. Okay. Emily, maybe why don't we start with you and we'll end on Matt whose suggestion this was. What did you think? Rated on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials. So Matt, I hate you for this.

But I'm also so glad that I watch. it like it's it's not an easy watch it's pretty brutal but it like reminds me that you know playwriting and also like screenwriting I mean this is an amazing script it exists and it's important to you know reference and look at these things and once I got I think about 40 minutes in I was in but boy did it take a minute for me to get in there. I'm so glad I watched it. Never want to watch it again. I also had to watch it on Fandango,

which I got something to say about that. Fandango, you know, we watch things on all kinds of free with ads platforms. Fandango only shows three commercials over and over again. I will watch Outlander. You don't have to keep trying to get me to watch it. It's not going to be it. But also,

there are commercials where I'm like, I would prefer AI at this point. Like the acting is so bad. The writing is so bad. I'm like, come on, make a good commercial, y'all, that people want to keep watching repetitively. That's the thing.

They're always happening on a repetition. Fandango, do better. This movie is an eight. I do not want to watch it again. It is a brutal watch, but it is an important watch. These actors are at the top of their craft. I think that it's a beautiful looking movie.

The set and the way that it looks like a soundstage and a film at the same time, it's truly a work of art and it's really amazing. You are going to feel like shit for a while after you watch it. But that's okay. It's okay. Just do it anyway. Yeah. I thought this was a really cool recommendation on Matt's part.

But when I sat down to watch it, I'm like, I don't want to fucking watch this. I know. I'm like, why don't we ever do the job? John Wick movies. This is, that's, what do we do? Okay. So I was like a little cranky when I turned this on, but I think like Emily, I had that experience of like, oh, locking into it and realizing like this is really something special.

And I think that like the fact, you know, and I, this has been said before on this podcast, but I think something magical about the free with ads averse is that you can see this stuff that would otherwise have just disappeared. Like streaming is so shitty for film preservation. It's like a new, you know, a batch of wonderful movies gets dumped every time there's a new season of, is it cake? Right, right, right. But these wacko websites that we watch these movies on, they just need stuff to put on so you get to see stuff like this that you wouldn't normally have, I didn't even know existed. So very cool.

I was like really glad that it existed. I was really glad to watch it. It's really, really fantastic. I think if you, you know, if you like theater, if you like these actors, definitely give it a shot. I am going to give it an eight as well. well. Matt, what did you think of your pick? If you hate this movie, I swear to God.

That'd be funny. That'd be a funny move, actually. I'm going to give it a one. It was lame and sucked just like in high school. Yeah. Boring. No, I loved it even more so this time around. I found myself being a little bit like,

I was really impressed with it when I saw it in high school. This was like, it was the first time I'd ever considered any of these concepts, I think. So it like blew my mind. But the second time around what really stuck with me was Willie Lohman played by, I mean, Dustin Hoffman's performance, Willie Lohman is so freaking good. I relate to it in such a intense way. It's very Jewish. Like the character, the play is incredible, like this nebashy,

who's just like obsessed with his legacy and the idea that people like him. I think it's like it's relatable in a thousand different ways. The scene where he is trying to just not be on the road anymore and he ends up talking himself out of a job like reverse selling and then just goes, okay, I'll go to Boston. It was, I think it's so brutal that it made me have to like sit and stare for a little while. So it is, I think it's a perfect play. I think it is a brilliant performance of it. I'm going to give it a nine.

I love it. I truly wanted you guys to see it because I wanted basically what you both say you experienced, which is at first going, Jesus Christ, why are we watching this shit? And then settling and going like, this is really special. Yeah. It is really special. I want to say one thing, Matt, we reference a little bit about him saying stuff about, being well liked.

Yes. Being liked versus well liked. And I think that that is the thing the three of us, especially in the YouTube verse and podcasts and everything, that pain of going, am I liked enough to justify being good? Right. And also, am I liked enough?

Am I commented enough? Am I subscribed enough? Yes. It's like, it's like, but he did his job well. Why did he have to be? So well-liked. And I don't know, that really, like, I stared at a wall a little bit after those lines. I will say that.

And also the idea of, like, being well-liked is what will take you over the top. That's what will make you successful. This is why the neighbor kid who was like, oh, he's a loser, what-not. No one likes him. My son is well-like. Doesn't matter, did it? Doesn't matter. No.

Like, realizing that you're focus on what, like, it started to make me go. Just be a little weaner and work for your dad. Hell yeah. I mean, you know. It's how you get ahead in life. Exactly. Don't blow hot air. Don't blow smoke up your sunsets telling him he's going to be perfect.

To the freebies out there, I think the idea of the being well-liked thing is something that I don't want to push that narrative on anybody. Just do what you're good at and do your thing. Don't worry about being well-liked. That's our problem. That's our problem. Don't do what. Don't do what we do, do what we say. Now we're all going to go drive in a car together.

I'm going to go look at Reddit and like slap myself in a face with a dead fish. Like, yeah. Anyway, that was Death of a Salesman. Let's do a little plug-in. Emily, you got anything for those people out there who want to like something? You know, I don't right now. I'm constantly posting little cute projects I'm doing. more things will come down the pipeline, but I don't have specific details yet because I'm kind of trying to be a little cute and sneaky about it.

Do a little sneaky. Maybe follow Emily on social media so you see all these things, question mark? Yeah, they'll trickle out. Okay, trickling out. Matt, get anything? Yes, if you are going to be in the San Francisco Bay Area at the beginning of March, I'm going to be at the punchline from March 3rd to March 7th. So please get your tickets. They are in the show description. That's March 3rd through March 7th, the San Francisco Punch Live.

Excellent. And hey, if you're listening to this, the week it comes out. The comic book I have been barfing about for these past couple months, Predator Bloodshed is hitting stands now. Actually, I think the day this comes out, February 25th, issue one,

of Predator Bloodshed should be in theaters for Marvel Comics, written by me, art by Roland Boshi and Rory Coleman. It's a beautiful book. It's a fun Predator romp. It's got a little dark comedy, and hey, maybe a little bit of satire aimed at our old buddy capitalism in the tradition of death of a salesman.

So yeah, I hope folks check this out. This is definitely the kind of thing that I hope people find and like, so the only evidence of it isn't people complaining online. So yes, please grab it. at your local comic book store. I'll be doing some events around the week this comes out. Check out my social media if you want to know more about that. But yeah, first and foremost,

Grant Predator Bloodshed. And if you like, issue one, tell your local comic book friend that you want all five issues and they'll order them up for you. Okay. Tune in next week when our movie will be The Burbs. Maximum Fun. A worker-owned network. Of artists' owned shows.

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