Free With Ads - Ghost (1990)
Episode Date: February 10, 2026This week the free streaming services blessed us with a stone cold classic, the 1990 romantic thriller horror comedy Ghost starring Patrick Swayze, Demi Moore, and Whoopi Goldberg.Tune in next week wh...en our movie will be... Sonic The Hedgehog.-----Follow Emily on Instagram and visit Emily's ETSY store FlemGemsSee Matt do stand up on Valentine's Day, Feb 14th, at the Ice House Comedy Club in Pasadena.THE JORDAN MORRIS WORLD TOUR!! (jk, it's just a couple of dates)2/25 - Collectors Paradise North Hollywood, 5pm - 7pm2/26 - Predator Double Feature @ The Frida Cinema in Orange County, 7pm https://thefridacinema.org/coming-soon/2/28 - Books With Pictures Eugene, OR 12pm - 3pmAlso Jordan is doing some dates with the Doughboys. You can get your tickets at BirdFuck.com2/28 - Portland3/1 - Seattle
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This is free with ads, the podcast that asks the question, why pay Netflix eight bucks a month for a bunch of supernatural romances when you can go online for free and watch a supernatural romance that's even sexier because the ghost is wearing a silk shirt tucked into black jeans with no belt.
I'm Jordan Morris.
And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is Ghost, the Oscar-winning classic with that famous pottery-based sex scene that gave us a classic catchphrase.
Wash your hands so you don't get close.
Play in my pussy.
With us, as always, is the super producer, the he freak.
Matt Lieb hitting us with those drops from beyond the grave.
Molly, you endanger girl.
What's up?
Amazing, amazing.
So glad to be here talking about ghosts.
Yeah.
This is Emily and I's first time with the ghost.
Matt, huge ghost had apparently.
Oh, my God.
Huge ghosts.
You know we're going to get into it.
Yeah.
We have a lot of fun stuff on today's show, but first a little bit of housekeeping, a slight change to the free with ad schedule.
Now, instead of releasing on Tuesday, we will be releasing on Wednesday.
Just a little easier for our schedules.
Nothing wrong with the show.
I know 10 of you are going to be in our mention saying, why is it the show here today?
Are you gone?
Is it done?
Did you get canceled?
It's not.
No.
And you'll cure this and go, oh, yes.
So yes, just the show's coming out on Wednesday.
Is Matt in jail?
Matt's not in jail.
He may be at some point.
I think I'm the one who's going to be in jail.
I was going to originally say, is Emily in jail?
But I said, you know what?
I'm just going to do it to myself this time.
Place your bets.
Place your bets, everybody.
So yeah, shows coming out on Wednesday, not Tuesday.
Everything is A-OK.
All right.
We are going to talk about Ghost,
which is as of this recording,
streaming free with ads.
But first, we're going to talk about something else
we saw for free on the internet this week.
other free stuff.
Okay, so I was browsing around my favorite website when I'm just wasting time online,
glamorous celebritypicks.gov.
Hell yeah.
And I noticed that the Grammys were this week.
So obviously, the article that caught my eye was,
glamorous podcaster, Emily Fleming, steps out on the red carpet at the Grammys.
And it dawned on me.
I'm sure our listeners want to know all about Emily's trip to the Grammys
and her family's visit to L.A.
Yeah.
Your dad was nominated for a Grammy.
He's a musician.
I was not,
I did not get to attend the Grammys,
but I did go to an after party.
Hell yeah.
Even better.
Even better.
Then you have to watch a stupid boring show.
Yeah,
I went to an after party for a record label that I cannot remember.
Did get recognized at the after party.
It was at Union Station, the train station.
Oh, cool.
That's a fun train station.
It was very cool.
Yeah, and we went.
My mom walked barefoot for a lot of it.
Gross.
Well, she had hose on.
She had panty hose on.
But she didn't pick the right shoes.
Every time she's been to the Grammys, the shoes are a problem.
Sure.
But she looked fabulous.
Everybody looked great.
So they did not win.
Your dad's band.
Your dad's band the steel drivers.
The steel drivers did not win this time.
They have won before, so it's not like any nomination is a win when you've already won.
Of course, true.
Did Billy Elish win best bluegrass?
Always wins everything.
It's just a popularity contest.
We get it.
They're very talented.
Sure.
Mr. Billy Strings won, which very young guy.
He's got kind of like a Grateful Dead-esque fish following.
Hold on.
People love him.
Is Billy Strings just Billy Elish and a mustache?
Does she just put on a mustache and her and Phineas start jamming on the banjos?
Yeah, this is her Chris Gaines slash Garth Brooks.
Billy Elish has a Chris Gaines.
I never knew that.
Yeah.
So they, and you know, bluegrass is in the daytime Grammy show.
That's not broadcast.
But this year they put country, all country category categories.
in the daytime Emmys, they didn't include them in the main Grammys.
Even though country music like makes more money than any other category.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
I was say, I did watch a little bit of the Grammys.
I kind of had it on in the background.
I did see Jelly Roll accepting his Grammy.
He got it for, he was a country musician, right?
I don't give a fuck what he is.
Okay.
Anyway, just my favorite.
I will say my experience with,
Jelly Roll has been only seeing him in interviews
where he's crying. So I'm like,
there's that crying guy.
I don't know what he does.
I've been told it's country music.
I mean, I don't know.
It never heard his music before,
but I did see him.
You should see this guy cry.
This guy.
This guy's crying.
Maybe that's what he should do.
But they did ask him to comment in a interview,
I guess right after the Grammy's.
Oh, about ice?
About ice.
And he said, like, here's what's crazy.
I just don't watch enough to have a comment, but he did use the word pandemonium.
Yeah.
And like, I had to Google that word.
So I'm like, you knew how to use the word pandemonium, but you don't know how to say,
I think humans should have just, right.
There shouldn't be a secret police roaming the streets.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I grew up with my family had like, what was it, intense pandemonium in my household
growing up. I'm like, what the fuck
does that have to do with anything?
And I have never used that word.
Where? Yeah, I know.
And I was like... I'm sure he had a tough life. I'm sure he did too, but he also knows how to say
big words, but he can't have an opinion about something very simple.
He's also met Christine Nome and taking selfies with her before.
Oh, so let's not, there's, you know...
It's not confusing.
Yeah, let's not pretend like you don't have an opinion on it. Let's just, you know,
be honest about it. Exactly.
Like, you can have an opinion and be like, I have opinions, but no comment.
Right.
You could say that instead of going, I just, I don't even know what TV is.
Yeah.
What am I?
What is phone?
What is?
The last news story I read about was OJ might have murdered a couple people.
I have no opinion on OJ.
And I have no opinion on that either.
Oh, boy.
I think the brother killed John Bonae.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it.
Just pivot to an old case.
Yeah, exactly.
So whatever.
So the Fleming's were in L.A.
Did you all do any other fun L.A. stuff?
We did.
We went to the Academy of Motion Picture Museum.
Oh, cool.
Well, that's relevant to this podcast.
Right next to the like Lachma Museum or just Lachma.
I don't know what that stands for.
But it was awesome.
I'd never been before.
And we met this woman in line to get into the Grammy's party.
And I just was chatting her up waiting for.
my parents to get in line. And I was like, you have any suggestions of where to take my family?
And that was her. I'm so glad that she suggested it. I make friends with people against their will
in lines and at bars. That's kind of just what happens. But it was, yeah, so we went the next day
after the Grammys. And it was a friggin blast. But as soon as I get there, we go up to get tickets
and there is immediately a little advertising pamphlet
for the Jaws exhibit.
And I'm like, fuck.
Because as someone who is afraid of underwater robots,
Jaws is the scariest thing.
Numero Uno.
It's that.
The original underwater robot.
That and like anything kind of Jurassic Park related,
like that.
I'm scared of animatronics in general.
And there's also something about,
there's another phobia.
about giant man-made things,
like giant sculptures of people
or animals.
Like, I can't remember somebody will comment
on Reddit about what that is.
But so even a large fake shark
will scare the shit out of me.
But if he's underwater, it is unbearably scary.
Like, I'm, it's so scary.
So we're in line.
Were you able to do the Jaws exhibit?
Or you're just like, let's look into the worlds
of Haya Miyazaki.
Let's look into the wonderful worlds of Miyazaki.
I was able to do it and my parents were not aware of this phobia I had and they just rolled their eyes so hard at this thing.
They were just like, oh my God, Emily.
It's just, it's a fake shark.
Get over it.
Like we went in and like they just.
Is the shark there in the exhibit?
There was a gigantic like kind of replica of him hanging from the ceiling as you're going up the escalator.
and my back was just shivering.
The whole time he was right behind me.
I was like, he's right behind me.
And my mom's like, oh, good Lord.
You describe it as a replica as if the other one is like,
well, then there's the real robot who we're all friends with and can meet.
And the real robot, I think, is much larger than the one that was.
But there was a tiny animatronic shark inside of the exhibit where you can play with these levers
and make it move.
Oh, that's fun.
That's fun.
Was that fun?
And I was, it was kind of.
Kind of, but I had, my mom and dad had to take the other two levers to do it with me because I was so scared.
Jesus.
My mom was like, what am I moving?
Is it?
And my dad goes, well, move yours by itself.
And she's like, oh, it's the hayed.
I like that.
Like, just kind of, it was.
So I, like, move the tail.
And then you can move the head back and forth.
And then the other one is the mouth opening and closing.
And that was scary as shit.
Didn't like it.
But there was other cool stuff.
That movie is truly amazing.
Like, I love that movie.
Oh, yeah.
especially because the character study of the three characters.
That's why it's really, really good, but it's so scary.
So there were all kinds of props and really cool stuff.
I think that was one of my favorite exhibits.
But the face of the guy who floats up in the water with no eyeball, the dead guy,
you turn a corner in this little dark room where there's like a projector screen.
And he's just as you turn the corner right the fuck there.
That's great.
I was like, no, I hated it.
hated it. But there was other really cool stuff. There was a exhibit about the two women who were the
production designers, set designers for the Barbie movie, but they also did Pride and Prejudice.
Oh, cool. And so the sets that we love from Pride and Prejudice, which my family is just as
obsessed with that movie as we are. Were there any exhibits about the peanut butter solution?
No.
Weird.
No. But then there were like, there was this really cool toy story motion like capture type exhibit, but there was also a dark room kind of exhibit that had a lot of Star Wars, Marvel stuff, and it had the shape of water guy suit.
Okay.
And it was pretty hot.
It didn't have his dick, though.
No, he doesn't really have a, I think there's like a flap that probably opens.
They describe his dick in shape of water as, yeah, two flaps and then a third.
thing going up.
Ooh, you saw the flap?
Is that the shape that they're talking about?
That is, yeah.
It's two flaps.
It's the shape of water.
Water question mark.
But my dad wanted to take pictures of him the most.
He was like, that's cool.
It's like, okay.
I came to L.A.
and met a real celebrity.
A real fish guy.
Sorry, I'm doing Yosemite Sam when I'm doing your dad's voice.
Well, but it's like I didn't meet fish, but I met the fish guy.
That's true.
But yeah, we had a great time.
And then we ate the restaurant that's in the Academy Museum is excellent.
Oh, yeah.
I have not been to the museum, but I have eaten at that restaurant and seen a movie there.
And the restaurant's great.
Vodka pasta like situation.
Get that.
It's so good.
And the salads are great.
Anyway, but yeah.
So then we went back and drank.
And my dad had like, and I had two double cranberry vodkas and a couple of beers.
We know how to do.
We know how to put it back.
My mom had two glasses of wine and was like, I'm going to bad.
And then my dad and I stayed up and talked.
We like to stay up and drink and talk about deep shit.
I love that.
I love that.
But yeah, they left today and I was a little sad, but I'm going to see them again in March
because I'm doing a short film with Marie, who was our guest from last week.
Breaking show business news.
Yeah, it was wonderful.
I highly suggest going to that museum.
It is so fun.
Really cool.
Go check it out.
Well, Emily, thank you for that.
important Grammy's update.
And now it's time for the main event.
We're going to talk about ghosts,
but we wanted to let you know that this movie does mention suicide.
So if that's not something you want to hear us talk about,
we're going to play some music and give you a chance to find another episode.
We're back.
This is free with ads, and we are talking about ghost.
Yay!
Yes!
Ghost, ghost, ghost, ghost, ghost, ghost.
Ghost, ghost.
Ghost.
Ghost.
Ghost.
Can we, I thought the sound that you were going to pick.
for the opening of like the quote or whatever
was going to be the just surprising noise
that happened at the top of the movie
when the title appeared.
Oh yeah, yeah, that is a surprising noise.
I would say there's two,
there's two jump scares in the opening of the movie.
One, when the title comes up,
it's like a big full screen title with a weird noise.
It's like an 824 movie.
It's like, I guess, what those are trying to replicate.
Yeah.
So it's this big, you know, kind of startling,
And then the other startling part is that this movie is apparently directed by Jerry Zucker who directed airplane.
What?
What?
I had no idea.
The guy who directed airplane directed this.
Insane.
I mean, it makes a little more sense when you watch the movie and half of it is a buddy comedy.
But so, you know, but I was kind of like, oh, this is going to be just some kind of like weepy, melodramatic movie when it's not.
It's every movie.
This is all, ghost is all movies.
It's every movie.
The tone is interesting, but it works.
It works great, yeah.
That makes sense, actually.
So, yeah, so weird.
And, you know, kind of kind of in relation to talking about Rob Reiner the other week of like,
oh, this guy just did so many different genres and didn't get like pinned down.
Anyway, it kind of maybe feels like directors now just kind of make one kind of movie and stay in their lane.
But yeah.
Yeah, these guys are like, okay, cool.
Well, I'll make a supernatural romance.
And then I'll do top secret.
Yeah, exactly.
movie smart directly next to each other but you know what i mean yeah anyway so yes uh we're
we're the credits they're are rolling and we are going through a weird spooky room filled with
pipes and sheets uh will this room come back yes kind of um kind of and then we see uh our three
main characters demi more Patrick suasy and their good friend carl who turns out not to be such a good
friend.
Which I also think that having this friend, like this single dude friend, hang around with
you is weird to begin with.
I knew that he was the killer from the moment the movie started.
Yes.
I knew it.
It's, yes, it's one of the greatest villains in film history, Carl.
Yeah.
He's just staring at them, make out in front of him.
Yeah.
So what is played by Samuel, Samuel, uh, Baldwin.
Yes.
Very sexy president character from Scandal.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
He always sort of plays a scumbag.
He's like, that's, you know, he's famous for it.
And Goldman as in MGM, as a Metro Golden, Goldman mayor.
So his father, I believe, was the OG Goldman.
Yeah.
So he's a Nepo baby.
You know who, you know.
And Jewish.
You know who weirdly else is a nepo baby in that regard?
Yako Warner.
Who?
Oh, yeah.
One of the animaics.
I got it.
It's fun.
That was great.
Let us know in the comments if you got that immediately.
It took me a while.
Matt.
Yeah?
You're more of a dot guy.
My family in the museum sat down and for 45 minutes,
sat down for 45 minutes and watched this video about how Jewish immigrants are the reason why we have Hollywood to begin with,
which is so cool.
I didn't know the story of all of this.
I just know horrible stereotypes that someone has.
But like,
but actually the story.
Oh, I didn't know there was a nice version of the Jews run Hollywood.
Exactly.
And it's a good thing.
And good for them.
We did a nice job with Hollywood.
No, it was really amazing and inspiring.
And I loved it.
And who was the guy who created the light bulb and the motion picture camera?
Well, Thomas Edison.
Thomas Edison.
He left.
He was the one who they pretended.
created the light bulb, right?
Well, I don't know, but we left that.
My dad went, Thomas Edison's a real dick.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Because he tried to make all filmmakers from that era.
They had to pay him for licensing to even use a motion picture camera.
So he was trying to ruin the guys who were starting Hollywood.
And my dad was like, he's a real piece of shit.
Yeah.
Like, I know.
No, he was.
It was really cool.
I say sit down and watch that documentary because it was really good.
Yeah.
So the three of them, they are doing something that doesn't really get explained in the movie and doesn't really come up again.
They are like, I guess, urban explorer types where they're looking for antiques and stuff in abandoned areas.
This does not come back and they do not explain it.
They are, so Carl and Swayze, they're super shirtless.
Why?
And they're covered in asbestos.
I know.
And they're wearing masks.
So they're like, we don't want to breathe this stuff in.
but we will get it all over our naked bodies.
We'll get itchy outside, just not inside.
Yeah, they're just covered in fiberglass,
and then he's like making out with his, you know, girlfriend,
which they're moving in and like renovating this cool building, which, oh, God.
Is that what they're doing?
Yeah.
That's what it is.
They're moving in together.
Here's what I thought.
Go ahead.
I thought that she was an artist.
She is.
And they were like getting, they were like, getting, they were like raiding.
abandoned buildings for antiques?
They were renovating that apartment
and they just happened to find a jar
with an ancient, like a coin
that was like a really old coin.
I can't remember.
I missed that completely.
They found an ancient coin?
Like an old coin which I thought
would come back in some regard,
but it did not.
It didn't.
But he makes a penny float,
but not that old coin.
Oh, interesting.
That's weird.
Should have been that old coin.
Should have been the coin.
Yeah, she's an artist.
So they're bringing in art through the window.
Like, because it's clearly in New York is where I'm thinking this is.
Because I remember people bringing up furniture on a rope to like walk up, like five-story walk-ups.
And I was like, couldn't be me.
I was always on the first floor or the second floor of a building.
Absolutely not.
I would rather get someone busting through a window and killing me than have to get a bed up on the fourth floor.
Then have the whole neighborhood see your bed.
Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, and they're like renovating.
and it's the coolest apartment too,
a big loft kind of Soho-looking thing.
So Demi Moore, as we mentioned,
she's an artist,
but Carl and Swayze,
they're a couple of 80s-ass business guys.
They're a couple of high rolling
Wall Street.
Wall Street bankers guys.
They use computers and move money around.
So they're going to work at their big old business office.
The bank.
The bank.
And he and at the, so they get in the elevator.
And because Carl is such a scam, he pulls this hilarious prank where he just has this
crazy coughing fit in this crowded elevator.
Oh my God, I hated this scene so much.
Maybe funny at the time.
We have had COVID since then.
This was terrifying and disgusting.
Right.
He was like, oh, I have a rash.
I'm like, okay, maybe this was cute in 1990.
It is not cute now.
It wasn't cute at all.
Like, I just, I was like, did this guy do something to you who was in front?
front of you and you were like torturing?
Yeah, I was wondering why do they hate all the people in the elevator and do they know
them all?
Well, I think it was supposed to up top show you that that guy's kind of a dick.
I mean, Swayze was playing along so I felt like it was supposed to show both of them as
kind of like, you know, rascally, fun guys, fun boys.
But they were close.
Yeah, close.
Good friends.
I mean, not to sound weird, but it was just like if you work with someone and then you
you spend all your time with them after work.
There's something weird there.
You're married to them.
Yeah, but I was also thinking, that's kind of us.
That's true.
That's true.
But we try to avoid each other like the plague.
Sure.
We pretty much only hang out here or at mythical.
That's why it works.
Yes, exactly.
That's why it works, yes.
Emily, the listener's fantasies that we all live in an apartment together.
Wouldn't that be cute?
Don't torpedo that.
Yes, and it's real, too.
cute and really what happened.
Well, I don't know if I've said this before, but I have had dreams quite often that everyone at
mythical lives in this like kind of dormitory building on top of the studio.
That would be cute.
It would be kind of cute.
That's what the viewer wants.
But I were like, KG was my roommate.
For some reason, it wasn't Michaela, which is weird.
Or Jenna.
Those would be my room.
These are all people who work for Mythical.
Yes, but KG is the best also.
But yeah, they were my roommates.
And we had to share one shower in a hallway.
And I don't know.
It seemed kind of fun.
All of this sounds great.
So yeah.
So back at the house that's getting renovated, they're like hoisting a giant stone angel into the, into the apartment.
Ugly as fuck.
Like what?
Very creepy, very haunted looking.
Artie bullshit.
And I'm like, and I'm like, oh, is this where he dies?
And they do another thing later where he is like watching a news.
report about plane crashes. And I'm like, is this movie kind of a final destination? Like, do,
are you, are they assuming you go into this movie knowing he dies and you're like, oh, when's it
going to happen? Oh, is it the angel? Oh, is he going to get on a plane? Anyway, so it's not the angel.
This way he like does this thing where he like swings out the window and like drags it back into
the room. He's wearing a shirt. Looks like he got it at Dan flashes. What is Dan flashes?
The shirts are, they're so expensive because the patterns are so complicated. It's a, it's a, it's a
I think you should leave thing.
I think you should leave sketch.
I'm going to have to Google
what how much a Dan Flash's
shirt is on eBay.
You're going to buy a real Dan Flash.
You know I will.
I have a problem with eBay.
I just buy too much shit.
The more complicated the patterns are,
the more expensive they are.
Do you want to know what I just bought on eBay
and it accidentally went to my parents
and they brought it in their suitcase?
Because it's for you, Matt Leap.
It is, and we're going to eat it
the next time we're in studio.
It is a.
Spam figgy pudding.
No.
You're going to force me to eat a spam.
We're all going to eat it.
We're all going to eat it because you've never had spam.
Nor figgy pudding.
I know.
Me neither.
Which is it figgy pudding made from spam or is it just a pudding in a cute spam?
It's a limited edition, figgy pudding flavored spam.
Okay.
And so I've got multiple packages of it.
Wow.
And I didn't mean, that's why it was so expensive because they sent me so many.
But we're going to try the regular spam at some point, but we are going to try this next time I'm near an office.
I'd rather have the Dan Flash's shirt.
We could do both.
We can do both.
We can do both.
We can't get a new shirt in today.
That's $450.
What?
Because the pattern's so complicated, you idiot.
All right.
That's it.
What was that?
That's audio from the sketch that Dan Flashes is from.
We shouldn't keep describing this sketch to you.
Like it's not.
So ghost.
Yeah.
So ghost.
Anyways.
So, you know, he doesn't die at several points when you think he's going to die.
But he does die one night after he and the wife or not the wife.
They're not married yet.
He and Demi Moore.
Which is weird. I feel like they should be married.
They're not married.
And also he doesn't yet say I love you.
He says, ditto.
She says, I love you.
And he says ditto.
And they've renovated a whole ass apart.
expensive apartment in Soho and they're not married yet and it's like what why um also
Demi Moore's haircut she's got this short haircut I'm wondering if that's because she had just done
is it GI Jane that she did where she shaved her head I think that was later I think it was just like
sort of part of the uh like chic artist Soho aesthetic of the yeah I think she's supposed to be like uh
who's the who's the kind of god who's the kind of got
girl from Breakfast Club.
Oh,
Ali Sheedy.
Allie Sheedy.
Yeah, that's kind of how I read this.
It's like that style.
I thought maybe it was growing back in
after G.I.J., which we should totally do.
I don't know the Demi Moore
filmography that well.
Well, this was a very, that was a very controversial movie.
So, um, for stupid reasons.
Got Chris Rock a slap in the face.
I'll tell you what.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot about that.
It's so funny.
He made that like old ass hack joke and that's what did it.
I know.
That was so weird.
I was like, I bet everyone's so confused.
What?
Who remembers anyway?
Nobody knows.
Everybody's having to Google why someone got slapped.
Like, what was he talking about?
Anyway.
So they go to see Macbeth and a random mugger who turns out to be not so random,
shoot Swayze.
And we see Swayze running after the mugger,
but then he sees himself dying.
Demi Moore's arms. That's right. He's dead and he's a ghost. A g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-ggggggg-g-ggg-g-ggggg-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-dg-g-dg-ghost. And as far as, like, there's this running kind of thing that in movies, when you die, you have the same outfit from the day of your death. Pretty good, pretty solid. I didn't realize it was beltless. Real late 80s core. I mentioned it in the top.
Yes. Red silk shirt tucked into black shirt tucked into black july.
jeans with no belt.
It looks great, honestly.
I was like, ooh.
It looks great on Patrick Swayze.
Yeah, I didn't realize the no belt thing.
That is weird.
Yeah, I just, yeah.
That's how you knew someone was cash.
Right.
I'm not some uptight asshole who puts on a belt.
My pants will fall down, whatever.
My pants are the right size.
He went to the theater without a belt.
Like, what the fuck?
Of course he doesn't said, I love you yet.
He ain't got no belt.
So he goes, he goes around.
kind of figuring out about being a ghost.
He goes to like a hospital.
There's an old man.
He's like,
shot, huh?
Does it every time.
Good line.
Love to that old guy.
Old guy was great.
Yeah,
all the like ghost people are really well cast.
Super cool.
I feel like they could have cut that scene,
like trim the fat,
but I'm glad that it was there.
Yeah.
And they don't really explain
what the ghost rules are in this,
but I kind of like it that way.
I think it's neat.
I think it's neat that like we're as confused as he is
and where,
kind of figuring it out.
Because yeah, I think, you know, something we slash I have complained about on this podcast a
lot is that like modern movies kind of hold your hand and they explain everything and there's
no mystery because they assume audiences are dumb and looking at their phones.
But yeah, this is kind of nice.
It's vague and mysterious and we're not really sure what's happening, but in kind of a fun
way because that's what he's going through.
I liked the lore of this movie because I know you guys know that I'm terrified of death.
It's something I'm going to have to go to therapy for because I think about it all the time.
You're the only one.
Well, that's true.
But I think that you're...
Your therapist is going to be, what?
You're afraid of what now?
I'm so fucking scared of it.
But I kind of have this phobia that when you die, you are trapped inside of the vessel as it decays.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And that's my biggest fear and I need to find a way to get a new belief.
But it was nice.
I liked the way that this kind of treated it.
And I like that there is this white light.
He could have gone to, but he chose not to.
And I kind of enjoyed that that you could kind of go, I'm going to put that off for a while.
Yeah, hang around.
Hang around.
And then the way that going through doors was treated as it's kind of scary and difficult.
Right.
Yeah.
And like the going through the bodies thing, we see that a lot in like ghost stories and stuff that it's weird to pass through a person's body as a ghost.
But yeah, the going through the door thing and then the explanation of how to move objects as a ghost loved that scene so much.
Yeah.
It was great.
It was like a little mini training montage that happened.
Yes.
So he meets a creepy ghost guy who, like, is on a train, who chases him off of the train,
a great, like, crazy-faced character actor.
Yes.
He's in Shiavelli.
He's in everything.
He's in so much stuff.
And it kind of, I think about a lot, like, you know, casting calls, how sometimes the way they describe people they're calling in,
it sucks unless you've got a hard, like,
skin. You got a tough skin. When I was when I was auditioning for stuff it was at the height of like super bad being the number one movie. So like I went in for like characters that were just called like unfuckable loser. Oh my God. Disgusting fat ass. My character was just called you. Farting virgin. Mine was like pretty but not hot. Like that was kind of what it was. It was like you know, sassy friends.
or sassy receptionist or whatever,
but it was like she's pretty,
doesn't know she's pretty,
but she's also not that hot.
And you're like, okay, I guess.
But doesn't know she's pretty
as like a weird screenwriter descriptor
that I think we're maybe not using anymore.
Yeah, it doesn't know.
I hope not.
She's like, she's pretty, but not a bitch.
Yeah.
I could, like, totally fuck her.
Why do you need to be misogynistic
in your description of a lady?
Well, I think people say that Pam from the office
is like that is the descriptor of her,
but like super pretty but she has no idea
she never was in love her.
She just, yeah.
But once they know that's when they're bad.
Oh, yeah.
If she knew it, then she'd be a dumb bitch.
Yeah, I hate her.
Yeah, exactly.
Anyway, so, okay, oh, this guy on the train too,
I think he's the tallest person in the movie.
Oh, he is, absolutely.
Tallest guy.
Or ghost.
So Swayze, former tallest guy, I guess I should say.
Tallest former guy.
Tallest pants for sure.
Very big pants.
Very high wasted pants.
So Swayze's trying to figure out what's going on.
He goes to psychic Whoopi Goldberg, who it's, you know, kind of implied that she's a scam artist, but for some reason can see him.
She has like, you know, her family is psychics, and this is kind of apparently the first time she's ever seeing a ghost.
So, yeah.
This is, by the way, when the movie goes from Schlock to one of the best movies of the 90s.
100 fucking percent because
Whoopi Goldberg makes things
make sense because she just fits
anywhere. Any movie you put her in
it's like everything makes sense now.
She's so like she believes
what's going on so well and just
is so effortless. I wish she was
in more movies. Whoopi, get off
the view and do some fucking movies.
Please. Get back into Star Trek.
Whoopi, there's Star Trek now. You could slide
into a Star Trek real nice.
The backstory of the bartender
character for Star Trek would be
great series if they just had a younger version of her and then figure out the lore of how she got
there i would love that series go come on paramount she's playing a character named otamee brown who is
apparently is like i think out now to scam artist she basically admits uh that she is to her two like
friends or sisters or i don't know who they are um and and it's when she's like you know mom had it but
i never had it and now this guy won't leave me alone which is kind of an incredible twist
that she's a fake psychic who becomes a real psychic
or a fake medium who becomes a real medium.
Well, yeah, that is a cool detail for sure.
But I think there's something about,
and this is some kind of ghost lore thing
that I have an opinion about that isn't explained,
that because he came to her,
then the intention was there
and the ghost sought her out.
But this idea of summoning ghosts
is kind of weird because some of them have passed on.
Why could you just summon every fucking ghost?
It's like the ghosts themselves have to
find you or like sense that you're around or something.
And once he did it, then all the ghosts were like, you know, I can feel like where I got
to go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like so yeah.
So this movie is I was expecting.
So I had never seen this movie and only knew it from the parodies.
It's like we saw that pottery scene, which by the way, we haven't talked about.
We blew right past it.
We're going to, let's double back.
It happens very early on in the movie.
But, I mean, it just like speaks to.
to how we don't have a monoculture anymore
because like I feel like I've seen this movie
just from seeing a thousand parodies of that thing.
And it's like now you can't parody anything
because no one knows what anyone else is talking about.
Exactly.
Anyway.
Because all people do is listen to podcasts now.
Sure.
It's like you could have a parody of our stings.
That's true.
Two people would be like, ah, but then no, anyway.
But yeah, it's like this movie with the pottery scene
and then misery with the hobbling scene.
Those are all references that were probably in animaania.
Like at some point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, actually let's so, so yeah, we're here with Whoopi.
This segment of the movie fucking rules.
There is like, so, oh, kind of what I was getting at, it's like I was assuming this was
going to be like this melodramatic kind of weepy love story.
And I'm like, this, this movie is 10 different genres.
For this segment, it is a hilarious buddy comedy with Patrick Swayze and Whoopi Goldberg
and they fucking rule.
They're a great comedy pair.
She's amazing.
That scene where she has to like fake being a bank customer while he's like in her ear
and she's just saying the most bizarre things and panicking.
It's so funny.
She's great in this.
I mean, won an Academy Award.
I know.
And very rare for comedy performance to win one.
Yeah, totally.
It speaks to how good she was.
It is the most well-deserved, I think, because truly,
try to picture this movie without Whoopi Goldberg's character.
I mean, not just, that character could have been played by anyone.
I wouldn't have done as good of a job, but just the character itself done by Whoopi,
so perfect that it makes this into one of those, like, top ten movies.
And it's not like, and it's not a big performance.
It's like, you know, like if you give the comedy role to like another comedy star of this time,
like they would have been mugging it up, you know, and like those kind of,
of performances are very fun in other movies,
but she's like, she's just there.
She's just in the movie.
She's kind of underselling things.
That's her thing.
That's why Whoopi Goldberg is such a great comedic actress.
It's why she's always been good,
was she's never been like over the top, really.
Yeah.
She's always been able to skirt that line
between feeling like a real person who is funny.
You know what I mean?
As opposed to like we cast a funny person to do some slapsticks.
Yeah, there is the thing about,
so when you watch it, you know,
she's a fake medium at the beginning.
And she has these two sisters who are kind of supporting her and like putting on the show
with her.
But she's a bad fake medium.
Yes.
Like she's terrible at it.
And you're like,
you have to believe that she's so likable that the sisters would go,
you're the one who's doing this.
We chose you to be the face of this operation.
And her store every time we see it is packed.
She always has a line.
So like the sisters going,
because I bet the sisters would have been better at it.
But for some reason, they, you know, she is in this, you can't take your eyes off of her.
She's so magnetic that you're just, they go, yes, you.
The funny thing about it is that she, I think, because the sisters, I think, know that this is all like.
Yeah, they know it's fake.
They know it's fake.
The funniest thing about this is when they are concerned for her, when she first hears Sam's voice, the character, by the way, Patrick Suasey's name is Sam.
Yeah.
Sam wheat.
Sam wheat.
Very fine.
They were like, let's just make it a beer?
Yeah, Billy Americana.
It was the second.
John Fence.
Billy Bob Lager.
So when she's first hearing the voice and they're like kind of scared for her and they're not
sure what's happening.
You know, is she like freaking out?
Is this real?
And then she says, you're white, aren't you?
That's when they're like, we got to call the doctor.
She's talking to, she's talking to white.
white ghosts in her head. That's when they think she's absolutely crazy. It is such a funny
moment. Which I did like the fact that she can't see him. She can only hear him. I think that is a cool
aspect of it because it's also in a movie that is incredibly white to start out. It is such a,
I don't know, it's like it gives it so much more dimension when like you see Otame and her
her sisters. You see the neighborhood that she lives in at one point when they're running away from,
you know, Sam, or not Sam, the bad guy. The bad guy. And Willie Lopez, I think is the name of the
killer. Like, she's trying to get in other neighbor's apartments. And it's like, who are you kidding?
No one will let her in because they're like, someone's coming after you with a gun. I'm not letting you
in my house. It's like this, it's just, it's interesting. It's like, it's great to get outside of
this like boring sort of like schlocky movie about a dead, you know, a dead bank guy.
Yeah. Well, also, she is just the glue that kind of holds all of it together where you are
completely engaged and it makes you care about everyone else. Yes. It makes, because of how good
she is. It actually makes it a real tear jerker instead of some sort of like, face. Yeah.
I cried a little bit.
Oh, my God, dude.
I don't know why.
We'll get to it.
Well, yeah, let's do this.
Let's do this.
We're chatting up a storm here.
Let's double back.
Mention the famous pottery sex scene.
Oh, you mean a fingering story?
I was going to say.
Fingering story.
Hand job story, fingering story.
It's all the same.
It's all the same.
I was going to say.
What is a fingering but a hand job?
For someone.
who if watching this scene probably not that sexy for someone whose primary interest is fingering because of those filthy filthy clay hands.
Also, there is nothing fun or sexy about a hand job.
I, so wait, hold on. You're mentioning hand job a lot.
Is there, I maybe, I only saw when we watched this, when I watched this, like the most vague-ass 80s sex scene where it's like shoulders.
Yeah.
And people kissing next.
the clay itself.
So when they're like, when they're working on the clay.
The clay is a dick.
She's clearly, she's a potter.
Like potterer, I don't know.
A pottery artist.
And we don't see any of her work, by the way, which I think is a mistake.
She is a, she is a like crazy underwritten character.
She is.
Who is like, and you know, and it's the better movie is Patrick Swayze and Whoopi Goldberg.
I'm glad that's where we spend our time.
Yeah.
But the like romance part of this just works because Demi Moore is so great and they have great chemistry.
Yeah.
But yeah, you don't know anything.
It's like I was confused about why she was pulling in the angel.
Yeah.
So she takes a back seat to the Whoopi story, which is good.
But also like she just fucking powers through making the romance work through sheer acting.
And, you know, that is by no fault of Demi Moore that she gave a great performance.
But yes, they kind of underwrote the character.
But God, her voice is so cool.
Demi Moore's voice that kind of like squeaky rasp kind of thing.
There's nobody with a sexier voice.
It's her and Andy McDowell, like best voices ever.
But yeah, so their chemistry is to die for.
They're playing the song with Unchained Melody.
Unchained Melody.
And they're having the famous pottery making scene that is a hand job because of the phallic nature of the pottery.
This is what I'm talking about.
And they got it wet first.
which is what you have to do in a hand job,
but sometimes they make you do it without that.
Like, dudes don't always have lube, which I think is so crazy.
Like, if you are a guy and you have a dick,
you should have lube around.
Like, nobody ever has it,
because you can't just, this dry hand job thing.
What is that?
I don't know how to do it.
It's a special thing that only men know about.
I know.
I know.
So why do they expect me to know?
I don't know.
But anyway, so it was-
They explain it to you once you play enough call of duty.
That's true.
Yeah, that sounds good.
But, yeah, no, I've never,
I don't want to do it.
I'm not doing it.
Anyway, so they...
I will say the pot also has an opening
that they get their hands into,
which would be a pussy or a butt.
That's right.
He does ruin her perfectly gorgeous, like pot.
And I was like, if I were her,
I would fucking lose my mind.
Yeah, because it looked like it was getting good.
Because I'm a painter and stuff,
which I'm trying to have a studio around in my apartment,
trying to move things around.
And if someone walked up behind me and fucked up my painting,
the way I would take the end of that,
brush and just like fucking poke you with it like it would make me so mad but i was like i guess
she's so talented that if you ruin one pot it just doesn't matter like kind of thing she's got so many
she's got so many exactly so yeah and then it does lead to that one of those sex scenes that they do
not do in movies anymore that was just all over the place in the 80s 90s so it's like very non-specific
it's a lot of like faces in necks it's a lot of like heads being thrown back like sex yeah you don't
know what you're looking about.
It's like a shoulder.
But good kissing.
Like if you've got a good deep wet kiss like going on, I will believe the sex scene.
But everything is so fucking dry.
Make out scenes now are not very sexy.
I don't know.
Get some lip gloss on.
Get some tarmex on those fucking lips, baby.
So it's just like it's just kind of like close ups of limbs and like rolling around in the bed.
It's like sex was just different than now it's just like when a stepmom gets stuck in a washing machine.
Oh, I forgot to tell you, I looked up rockadoodle porn and found some.
Cool.
Yeah, and you're afraid of death?
Okay.
Yeah, well, fuck you.
Big news, Emily.
I am not?
I guess there's rockadoodle porn.
God, am I just not interesting?
Maybe that's it.
I don't.
But yeah, no, it was hot.
What was the rockadoodle porn like?
Well, it was just images.
There were no videos, but it was like, you know, a lot of boobs.
Get on it weirdos.
on our Goldie Fescent.
And I've heard, I went in our Reddit and some people were commenting about there's some
artist or something that does these.
And I will be Googling that later.
But it was in the Reddit thread about the Rocket Doodle episode.
And thank you, little freebies.
We can always count on you to be weird and we love you.
But also don't read the Reddit.
I will always read the Reddit, Jordan.
You can't stop me.
So, okay, let's do this.
Let's take a break.
We've talked about the beginning and mid.
middle of the movie. We aren't really talking about what the like crime plot is. Let's take a break.
We'll speed through that and then we'll come back for some more. We're back. It's free with ads.
We're talking about ghost. So so let's let's roll in the like crime murder plot here, which kind of
comes to a head at the end. So the thing that's happening while he and Whoopie are having this like like
buddy comedy romp around is we learned that Carl, uh,
gorgeous shirtless Carl who hangs around with a couple.
He is, he is, was embezzling money and needed Swayze's like pass code to embezzle.
So he hired Willie Lopez, the guy who shot Swayze to like mug him for his passwords.
But the mugging went wrong.
He was not supposed to kill him, but he did.
So now it's like this thing where Carl is trying to move in on Demi Moore.
while also getting the passwords,
like they have a weird
psychosexual thing going on,
but also she's also trying to look for the passwords.
Anyway, so that's like happening.
They figure it out.
There's this like big kind of,
kind of chase, shoot him up type finale third act,
which is like crazy.
It's like, oh, this is also like an action movie.
It was.
It was really tense because, you know,
Swayze, Sam, his character,
learns how to move objects very quickly and very well.
Because in other movies about ghosts,
it's like they could kind of move a chair.
But he's able to like punch you in the face.
He's able to like turn knobs on ovens and like do a bunch of shit.
So he starts showing up to Carl.
Once he realizes that his best friend, you know,
is the reason that he is dead and is now making moves on Molly.
his girlfriend,
he realizes the only way he's going to be able to do anything
is if he's able to move objects.
And he saw the train man moving objects earlier
when he kicked him off the train
because he's my train.
So he goes back to that train and essentially is like,
you must train me, Sensei.
And stands up to him,
which I feel like that ghost was in a horrible place
and needed this moment.
Like, he's a volatile kind of character.
He says he was pushed onto the tracks, but I think it's clear and he jumped.
But there's something about that character that he's very disturbed.
It's amazing the backstory they give to this character who you see for like two scenes.
Amazing performance.
An incredible performance by one of the strangest faced actors alive, like straight up human Halloween mask guy.
And he's such a good actor.
I would nominate him for best supporting actor for this role.
It was fantastic.
And you see him like freaking out.
And then talking about like how he didn't jump in front of the train that he was pushed and stuff.
And then so it's just clear that he had some whatever issues.
It made me cry a little bit when he was talking about how he just wanted one drag of a cigarette.
And it made me so sad for him.
But the way that he lightened up, like he kind of lit up when he got to help this other ghost.
Way to go, kid.
He's like, way to go, kid.
I really wanted to see the light come down and take him to heaven.
I know.
to heaven.
I was hoping there would be like a little come to Jesus at the end where he's like back
there waiting for Patrick Swayze and he's like, you did good.
Let's go together.
Like kind of thing.
To get into the like possible lore of it, he's in purgatory.
For sure.
Not because of any like unfinished business, but because he committed suicide.
He committed suicide.
He clearly jumped in front of the train.
Yeah.
So it's like he's stuck there, but he did a nice thing and helped a, you know, goes.
Helped a ghost learn how to move stuff.
Yeah.
So it felt like he should have a happy ending,
but you don't really see him have a happy ending.
It's kind of sad.
But we love him.
So now he could just throw shit at people and punch them in the face.
It's pretty cool.
Right.
Yeah.
So Patrick Swayze becomes like superpower guy by the end.
And it's like fucking with people and they can't see him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we get to like see other people die.
So like when the bad guys die, like when Willie Lopez,
dies.
Loved it.
These shadow demons come out of,
this movie has shadow demons in it.
Like come and drag him somewhere off into the shadows.
Really scary.
I know we just peek behind the curtain.
Part of why we did this movie was because we were like,
oh, we've done a lot of horror movies.
Let's like do some other stuff for a while and come back to horror.
It's like, we picked the most horror-filled romance that's ever been created.
We can't escape it, man.
Yeah, legit scary.
So, yeah.
All the genres.
movie is called ghost, but also, to be fair, it is not a horror movie throughout.
I will admit, though, a lot of my formative, like, scary memories are from this movie.
This movie scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
Oh, I'm sure, yeah.
Because I saw it just in, like, clips, like, my parents had rented it, and I just ended up
seeing the scene where he gets killed and the scene where Willie Lopez dies.
The two scariest fucking scenes in the movie.
Everything else is actually pretty fine.
Honestly, can I talk about how Willie Lopez dies?
Because that is a horrible death.
Like, going between two cars smushing you.
Like, hell no.
So he's like, Swayze is like scaring him to death.
And he's like just running around.
He runs out into the street.
Get smashed by two cars.
Yeah, pretty graphic, pretty grisly.
And then gets dragged away by the shadow monsters.
Yeah.
And the sound design on the shadow monsters is so fucking good.
Yes.
I have a little bit of it right here.
Jesus.
Oh my God.
That is so scary.
I was sure that was going to lead into Paul Sorfito singing opera.
I thought about it.
Baby, baby, baby.
But no, it is the sound design on that is so good that I just.
just had to, as an audio file, I was like, you got to listen to that. So fucking good.
Yeah. If you, yeah, if you like only see those two scenes, this movie is The Exorcist.
Right. Yes. Yes. Exactly.
Well, yeah, the bad guys start dying. There's a big kind of climactic thing with Carl where they go
back up into the attic that they're refinishing, but maybe I thought they lived there.
Wait, but before we get up there, there's the scene where Patrick Swayze goes into Oda Mae Brown's
body. That's right. That's right. Because we find out that people can go into her body, like, you know, ghosts can go inside of her and she could physically, like, you know, embody them.
Yeah. Essentially do, what's a, what do you call that? Possession. You can do possession. Which I got to talk about the scene where she is, like, there's all these ghosts. So once Patrick Swayze, like, breaks through to her. All of these ghosts show up. And there's this one ghost that goes into her body to see his, um,
you know, his widow.
And she has, like, done this kind of bleach red hair.
And he's like, what the hell sunrise?
He's like, what did you do to your hair?
And she's like, oh.
It's so the greatest moment.
It's so funny, but he's judging her for her fucking hair.
It's so funny.
That's the message he wanted to give his widow.
I hate your hair.
And meanwhile, like, she pushes him out of her body.
You know, like, don't you ever do that?
that to me again. And this poor woman or Titia is just like, where is the insurance policy?
I really wanted, you know, Whippy Goldberg's character to just answer that question.
It's like, you've gotten this far.
You paid her like a hundred bucks to just get an insult from your dead husband.
Come back one time to say, damn, baby, what's wrong with you?
Well, you know what's so crazy? I'm obsessed with Trixia Katia, another like podcast, the drag queens.
They quote this movie like crazy and I didn't realize that all of these quotes were from that.
Oh, it's autumn sunrise.
Yeah, now I'm in on all of it.
But anyway, so she goes into,
okay, so, you know, Patrick Swayze goes into the body of Whoopi Goldberg
and they're able to kind of touch each other and stuff.
And they didn't do the gross thing where they have two women, like,
having an intimate moment visually.
So it's like they chose.
I think that's beautiful.
Yeah, it's not gross.
Well, of course.
But I think there's some kind of like consent weirdness that could have been happening.
Sure, sure, sure.
Absolutely.
I was just high-roading you for no reason.
Yeah, that's fine.
This is a documentary.
Anyway, so they show Patrick Swayze having the moment touching her face and everything.
They're interrupted by Carl showing up.
And then it turns into a fucking chase scene that is so tense and crazy.
Yeah, this movie is just like taken for 10 minutes.
No kidding.
Yeah, Carl goes crazy, gets pretty brutally stabbed with a broken window.
Yeah.
That was wild.
He gets dragged off by the shadow demons.
And then Swayzee is his duty on earth.
She is complete.
We see the kind of white light.
And then they can both see him.
So this is the first time.
We'll be Goldberg is seeing him.
And then they do a little ghost kiss.
And then he says, I love you.
Finally says, I love you.
She says, ditto.
She says ditto.
She says ditto.
It's so cute.
But I really.
And then he says something like, you know,
describing the feeling of heaven.
And I don't remember the exact lines,
but all I remember is blubbering in the kitchen
while I'm doing the dishes.
I know.
I've seen this movie a thousand times,
but for some reason,
it got me this time.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
Heaven is everyone who you ever love together.
Well, he said something about how...
Except the people have been dragged away by Shadow demons.
Silk Shadow monsters.
Sorry, dog.
Or trained men.
Shouldn't be murdered.
Don't murder people.
You definitely go into hell.
But like he said something about how the love, it's so big.
It's like so much love.
I feel all of the love.
And take it.
Oh, you take it with you.
Take it with you.
And he's like, please take it with you.
Oh, the fact that you take your love with you was that hit me so fucking hard.
I don't know why.
The other thing that made me cry was how sweet the good.
by was between Whoopi and him.
It's really cute.
It's really cute and it's like I had an adventure with you and like, you know, go on and I'll miss you, buddy, like kind of thing.
And I hope to God that those two characters like Whoopie and Demi Moore after this movie, I like to imagine that they're BFFs forever.
They have to hang out.
They got to hang out.
You got to hang out.
Yeah.
No, they text, let's get coffee and they never actually do it.
Somebody flakes at the last minute.
I'm feeling sick.
Oh, I don't want to go across town.
I'm feeling sick.
I have to sculpt an ugly pot or something.
One thing leads to another, Molly is in L.A.
and Odomay is still there in Prospect Park.
Whatever happened to that lady who I saved.
Yeah.
I remember Patrick Swayze's character promised to Odomay-Brown
that he'd make her visions or her power go away
where she could hear ghosts.
Like he said, like, it'll go away.
I promise after you help me and I'm like,
bitch, you can't promise her that shit.
He's making promises he cannot keep.
Exactly.
I mean, we talked about the
Whoopi Star Trek series.
I mean,
old Oda Mae series,
that's pretty good.
You could do two seasons of that.
There should be an Oda May comic book series
where she helps like solve crimes.
That's a great idea.
That's a great idea.
Definitely.
Well, there's a TV show called Medium
that happened with,
Patricia Arquette.
Then it's just funny medium.
Just call it funny medium medium.
And it's medium but funny.
Better medium.
Better medium.
Call it medium well.
Medium well.
A little pink in the center.
Yeah, a little pink.
Medium rare.
I mean, sure.
It's rare.
You get a show this good.
Yeah, that's true.
There we go.
Hey, we're going to talk about what we thought of ghost.
But first, we're going to do the hunk watch.
It's hunk watch.
So, you know, Patrick Swayze, one of the,
I mean, I think the person who the word hunk was invented for, does the word hunk predate Swayze?
I don't know.
But yeah, but I feel like the word hunk was popularized to like describe this guy.
Yeah.
Perfect man.
You know, we've, you know, we've elevated him as one of the top hunks.
Is there anything else to say about him or any other hunks in this film?
Please, yes.
So there was a little cameo by a man, the name of,
Stephen Root.
Oh, Steve, that's right.
Yeah, Stephen Root is in this.
Like a cop with one scene.
Young Stephen Root, which he's amazing no matter what age he is.
He plays a detective that, you know, Molly, Demi Moore tries to go to with the information
that the medium gave her.
And, you know, he couldn't help her.
But God damn.
Like I, okay, so there's like, you know, beautiful, like conventionally beautiful actors
like Patrick Swayze who, if I were in a room with them, I don't.
I don't think I would be attracted to him like in real life.
Like I'm attracted to him on the silver screen.
Like,
but as a human being,
if I were in a room with Stephen Root as that character,
that would be the guy.
I was like,
oof,
I'd be,
I'd be wanting to flirt with him.
I'd be like making eyes at him.
He just had the magnetism in those scenes.
I wanted him so bad.
So Stephen Root in the 90s,
give me a fucking call, man.
I don't know.
Give me a call now.
I'll find your fucking stapler in my pussy.
Like, let's go.
Like, I love you so much.
You can put some strict nine in my guacamole.
I am because, I mean, obviously, the conventional hunks are there.
You got your Sam Goldwyn, who is.
He is a hunk.
He is also one of the few nepo babies that I think is absolutely great at what he does.
Oh, yeah.
He's a great actor.
He is a great actor.
He's very good at this one character.
He was just...
It is a bummer when the Nepo babies are good, aren't they?
It's like, ah, fuck, shit.
I know.
It's like something genetic.
It pisses me off when they aren't good.
That is more fun when they're not good.
When I found out that Nick Kroll was like his father was a billionaire, I was like, come
on, man.
But he is legitimately funny.
So I was like, all right, fine, fine.
And he seems like a nice guy.
Yeah, he's probably nice.
I don't know.
Don't tell me any different.
Let me live in the...
ignorance if he's not nice.
He's in the Epstein files.
Of course.
They're all,
everyone is.
We're going to have to do some search.
Just Free With Ads podcast right there.
Favorite podcast.
Yeah.
Jeffrey Epstein love Free With Ads.
Love it.
Didn't exist when he was alive, but yeah, his ghost loves it.
So Sam's good, but I am going to go with an unconventional pick and say Willie Lopez is my guy.
What?
Lopez is a pretty good.
looking, I mean, they grime him up for this, but you can tell he's handsome. He is, sure, he is
grimy in this, but he, uh, is played by an actor named Rick Avelis who is, or Avis,
I don't know if I pronounce it right, but he is one of those, that guy from that thing of this time
period. Really? Oh yeah, he was in, he was in the Godfather three. What? He was in this. He, I,
I feel like I saw him in multiple movies around this time. He was just kind of like, he, he,
Whenever there was a New York type movie,
I think he was in Waterworld.
Like, he is just one of those dudes.
The original New York movie.
Yeah, he was like,
Hey, I'm looking for dry land over here.
Do you need a Puerto Rican guy to look for dry land?
That's who they would choose.
Get your ass off my Atoll.
He truly was, he was, I think, one of my favorite guys from that era
in just in terms of like,
character actress. That's so interesting. I cannot recall seeing him in anything else. He's in a ton of things. He gave a great performance. He's in
Carlito's way. He's in fucking. Oh wow. Never seen that. Need to see it. Yeah. Yeah. He's in a lot of good shit. Did you like him? Was he hunkier before or after a cat scratched his face? Even more hunky after the cat scratched his face. Wow. Got a cool wound. Yeah. Cats can sense ghosts. That's true. It's true. That's mine.
All right. Those are the hunks of ghosts.
We're going to say what we thought about the movie.
I think we all liked it.
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Okay.
Matt, maybe we'll start with you because you're the,
ghost spurt.
This ghost got me straight bussen.
Yeah.
Did it make you feel good?
Oh, yeah.
Did it make you feel good?
Bustin makes me feel good.
Okay.
What'd you think?
I have to give it a 10.
It's just one of those movies for me that like gets better with every viewing where I appreciate
more and more about it as it goes on.
This movie, you know, I've seen it now so many times.
And yet when we chose this, I was so excited to see it.
And I easily sat through the whole thing.
It just, the pacing is perfect.
The acting is really unsung, even though there was an Academy Award, you know,
winner for at least one of the characters.
And, yeah, just the screenplay is like one of those, it's just one of those, like, perfect,
perfect movies to me.
So I give it a 10.
Okay.
I'll go next and let Emily bring it home.
I liked this a lot.
I was really excited to watch it.
I was I was expecting something totally different.
I was expecting something kind of corny, maybe a little maudlin, and it like has those aspects to it.
But like it's so much more.
And it is crazy how how it like jumps genres.
I think that's so cool.
And definitely like, you know, movies, they weren't across the board better when we were young.
They like, there's, listen.
I don't want to be one of those.
It was better back in the day, guys.
But this movie does have a cool quality where it just does what it wants to do.
And it doesn't seem like it's been made by committee and rewritten like crazy.
It's like a vision.
And sometimes it's a comedy.
And sometimes it's a straight up horror movie.
And sometimes it is a weepy romance.
And it's like great at all of them.
It really is just like really awesome, really surprising.
I'm going to give it an eight.
Emily, what do you go?
All right.
I absolutely adore this movie.
I'm so glad we watched it.
I can't believe I haven't watched it before,
and I'm thrilled that we watched it.
It was not what I thought it was going to be at all.
I knew there was a comedic kind of performance with Wuby Goldberg.
I didn't know how amazing her performance was,
not just comedically, but dramatically.
And the sincerity of her performance,
that's my favorite part about the movie.
But the message of the movie to me is also like,
make sure to tell people how much they mean to you and how much you love them while you can
or else there's this person that goes through having to beg to tell you and stuff.
But there is this thing at the top of the movie of him.
Life is so perfect that you're scared of like bad things happening.
And I totally know that fear or whatever,
but it's like the best thing you can do is tell people how much they mean to you while you're here.
And that I want to cry just thinking about it.
Anyway, I love this movie so fucking much.
It is a tippy 10.
I think it's going to, I don't know if my family's watch this,
but we watch Moonstruck so much and Pride and Prejudice so much.
I'm going to add this to the Fleming family repertoire,
and I'm sure my sister is going to fight me on this,
but as soon as she sees it, she's going to change her tune.
All right, that was Ghosts.
We liked it a lot.
Let's do a little plug-in.
Emily got anything?
I was on a little podcast called Pod Yourself a Man.
That's called Pod Yourself a Gun, a rewatch podcast subtitle Mad Yourself a Man.
Mads Yourself a Man.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Matt.
God damn it.
You don't have to be sorry.
No one knows the name.
Well, now they will.
It's Mad Yourself a Man.
It's a Mad Men podcast that our super producer Matt leave has.
Matt has many podcasts.
Too many.
Kill me.
Are we jealous about that?
A little.
I feel like you're cheating on us, motherfucker.
I'm kidding.
My life's terrible.
They have better running bits?
What are your,
what are the running bits on the other shows?
It's the same.
I just use the stings.
Yeah, they have good bits.
They do.
But of course, I'm a little biased.
I think ours is like the best.
But I had so much fun talking with you and Vents about bad men.
And so, yeah, when does that come out?
Check it out.
That will be coming out in.
And let's see, but, blah, blah, that will be coming out this week.
So this will be coming out on Friday of this week.
All right, cool.
So go check that out.
And where can they find that?
You can find that wherever you get your podcast.
Pod yourself a gun.
A pre-watch podcast.
There you go.
Matt, I know he kind of rolled into a plug there for you.
You got anything else?
Other than that, come to the Ice House on Valentine's Day.
That's right.
if you are in Pasadena on Valentine's Day,
come to see me and my wife and other people do stand up.
Oh, that's such a romantic idea.
So at 9.30, get yourself some tickets.
It'll be a lot of fun.
All right.
And now I am going to announce a tour.
Which tour?
The World Tour.
That's right.
I am going on a world tour
to sign copies of Predator Bloodshed,
the new Marvel comic series written by me,
here are my stops on the world tour.
225.
I'm going to be at Collectors Paradise in North Hollywood,
5 to 8 p.m.
226, I'm going to be hosting a Predator double feature
at the Frida Cinema in Santa Ana.
That starts at 7 p.m.
On 228, I'm going to be at Books with Pictures in Eugene, Oregon,
from 12 to 3 p.m.
That's Books with Pictures in Eugene, not the Portland one.
So come to the Eugene one.
And that's it.
My world tour is North Hollywood.
Santa Ana and Eugene Oregon.
That's right.
All the major cities.
And of course, I will be with our buddies, the doughboys, in Portland and Seattle for their live shows.
228 and 3-1, respectively.
You get those tickets at birdfuck.com.
Okay.
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