Free With Ads - Go, with Arnie Niekamp

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

This week we invited Arnie Niekamp to help us finish off the holiday season by watching the very 90's Christmas movie GO starring Katie Holmes and Timothy Olyphant and a bunch of other 90's people you... will definitely recognize.Tune in next week when our episode will be an UNLOCKED BONUS EPISODE of Free With Ads where we talk about TV, and the episode will be... the musical episode of Buffy The Vampire Slayer "Once More With Feeling." HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!-----Follow Arnie Niekamp on InstagramListen to Arnie's Christmas music podcast No Skip ChristmasAnd of course listen to Hello From The Magic TavernGet a copy of Jordan Morris's comic book Predator: Black White and Blood #4!Also click this link to get a signed copy of PREDATOR Bloodshed #1-5! https://bit.ly/coolfight

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is free with ads. podcast that asked the question, why pay Netflix 12 bucks a month to watch rebooted 90s movies when you could go online for free and get a pure, uncut, pharmaceutical-grade movie with multiple interlocking storylines, Tay Diggs, slacker characters who monologue about pop culture, and a soundtrack featuring the Macarena, making it perhaps the most 90s movie of all time. I'm Jordan Morris. Woo! And I'm Emily Fleming.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Today's movie is Go, the drug and rave-filled crime caper that's pretty strong so if you're not sure about your tolerance just watch half the movie and see how you feel with us as always is the super producer the he freak matt lee pitting us with those psychedelic drops isn't it ironic don't you think it's like ray yeah yeah i'm sure when when that line happened in theaters people stood up and cheered yeah it was 100% an applause break from the entire AMC. Yeah. Johnny Rockets was falling over.
Starting point is 00:01:34 They mentioned the only song we listened to this year. Yes. Uh, good stuff. Uh, absolutely. And hey, uh, here to talk with us about this sneaky Christmas movie is a man who is something of a Christmas expert himself, uh, one of the hosts of Hello from the Magic Tavern and, uh, the new Christmas music podcast, No Skip Christmas, Arnie Neacamp. Hi, Arnie.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Hello. Thank you for having me. Yeah, we're going to get into Go, but first, since we have this wonderful guest, we're going to do a segment we call Talk to Guest. Talk to Guest. So, Arnie, we had originally planned to do this movie because, you know, this is our first episode back after Christmas. We're coming to you from a time vortex before Christmas. If something awful happens on this, you know, Christmas this year, we won't know about it. Is there non-linear storytelling going on in this? Yeah, we're all, yes, we're all going to go on our own little adventure.
Starting point is 00:02:34 We're kind of like a Chris Nolan movie if it was a podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. I'm going to go to Vegas. I'm the spinning top. Yes, does Emily fall over at the end? You'll never know. I'm in the wall screaming for my daughter. Daughter.
Starting point is 00:02:48 My daughter. And I'm Batman? Sure. Anyway. Why not? We wanted to do, we wanted to do this movie because I think it was on a list of New Year's movies. I think after watching it, we can all agree that it is, in fact, a sneaky Christmas movie. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:06 But we thought it would be fun to have you because you have started a new Christmas music podcast, no skip Christmas. Did you come out of doing that series with any hot takes on Christmas music? That's a good question. I went into it because I do love curating Christmas music. And I thought it would be easier to do a podcast where I just talked about a couple songs rather than improvise. like a decade-long lore of a magical world that is my other podcast. Just pull a random podcast premise out of thin air, yes. What did I learn?
Starting point is 00:03:41 I mean, I think I learned, like, I have a huge playlist of Christmas music. And so I thought mostly my guests would be bringing me things to recommend for my playlist that I secretly was already very familiar with. But I discovered there's just so much, there's just so much out there. And so, you know, there was a lot of, like, surprising, weird stuff that's probably not going on my playlist, like, say, the Jethro Tull Christmas album, which I enjoyed experiencing, but, you know, the once was enough for me. This is a flute-based Christmas album, right? It is very flute forward. It is to the point where, like, when a song starts, I worry that people will be driven off the road by just the intensity of the flute.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But I also learned there's a lot of great Christmas music from all eras that I just wasn't familiar with. So there's a lot out there. I'm excited to keep exploring it. I'm thinking of what Christmas music is very flute forward. And I realize the only one I can think of is pat-a-pan. Did you guys know Pat-a-Pan? No. Am I the only one who knows Pat-A-Pan?
Starting point is 00:04:54 Sounds like a boring British children's book. Is it the Dr. Dog song? No, there's a Dr. Dog song that has a similar name. No, it's like, it's, it's an old school Christmas song that's got a flute playing. Yeah, I guess if you've never heard Patapan, I sound like a psychopath, but it's, it's real. The more you say it, the more it doesn't even sound like things. It doesn't sound like I'm having a stroke. Patapan's real.
Starting point is 00:05:22 It can also be like a demon that terrorizes a small town in Maine. My favorite My favorite P-SP rhythm game is Pada Pan Yeah Wait, hold on I think this is Pat-A-Pan Hold on
Starting point is 00:05:34 Wait Okay You guys don't know The flute The flute is there Pat-a-Pan is real Oh well I've never heard
Starting point is 00:05:46 Someone's singing it Robin take your flute That's Julie Andrews That is Julie Andrews Yes Is this supposed to be a Christmas song did yeah it says Christmas with Julie Andrews Jordan okay is it a whole album I'll definitely check that out yeah the album sounds great anyway so you're saying Jethro O'Toll didn't do
Starting point is 00:06:05 Patapan I do not believe Patapan is on at least the Jethro Tull Christmas album well they fucked up they fucked up hey Arnie you mentioned Dr. Dog and speaking of dogs DMX has a version of Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer holy cat I'm writing all of these down whoa really not know that. I knew Shaggy had a Christmas album. They're not anywhere similar to each other. DMX had a dog fighting ring. That's where the dog was from. Fun connection. But then he reformed and started a dog fashion brand. Thank you, DMX. Thank you, DMX. Well, yeah, if you, hey, if you ever do another season, no, skip Christmas. We clearly all have some. Yeah, absolutely. Just a three-episode arc on pat-a-pan.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Where my pat-a-pan heads at? Make some flute noise. Arnie, you mentioned your other podcast. Hello from the Magic Tavern. It's a long-running podcast. It's a classic. It is an improvised fantasy novel film story podcast. Emily and I have both been on it.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Both delightful. Oh, thank you. How do you keep track of this 10-year-long story you're making up off the top of your head? basically well early on it was mostly just that like you know me and my co-hosts everyone just kind of holds their own lore to a certain extent it's like the stuff that's important to me I'll see back into the show uh there's also the fact that we would usually record three at a time so it was very easy to roll into the next episode immediately you're doing callbacks to the episode before
Starting point is 00:07:46 and if you kind of if it gains enough traction in three episodes is easier to remember when you come back and record some more but now that we're 10 years in it's a combination of we are very blessed to have a fan maintained wiki that we definitely look things up all the time and here's the thing I don't want to encourage it but if people just put wrong things in our wiki it would probably just end up in the show and on this wiki this is one where you put pictures of your feet right yes it's all but here's the thing it's the fantasy versions of our feet so oh so hobbit featsies they got wings more toes I got seven zies
Starting point is 00:08:24 toesies is there is that a thing uh i have definitely worked on tv shows where they're like what happens look on the fan wiki like the people who make the show use the fan wikis because the fans keep better track of the stuff oh yeah emily and i probably have wiki entries i think so yeah i don't um there's nobody i think my name is mentioned somewhere but you can't click on it oh okay well we'll make sure get on that people update update the wiki what about you Matt, do you have it? No, I'm not on, I've never been on the show. It'd be really funny, though, if I had a blue name on a show I've never been on.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Well, I mean, but you've been on shows. That's true. I have been on shows. There's some wiki out there that has Matt Lee. Yeah, you're on a wiki. For sure. If any Magic Tavern wiki contributors are currently listening to this, please just add Matt leave to our wiki.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yes. Make me a character in the extended universe. Add some stuff to it. There were novels written about Matt in the 80s. Yeah, but then they've totally been deemed non-canonical now, unfortunately. Yes, exactly. He's the Dash Rendar of, hello for the Magic Cavern. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Now non-canonical Star Wars character. I'm a good guy. Everyone likes listening to me. You're cool. I am cool. Thank you. Well, yeah, Arnie, thank you for being here. If you have any, you know, Christmas expertise to add to the design.
Starting point is 00:09:53 discussion, please do. But in general, we just want to hear what everybody thought about the movie Go, a 90s classic. Had everyone seen this going in? Nope. I have seen it, but I didn't get to see it when it first came out because I was not allowed to. I was in like eighth grade.
Starting point is 00:10:11 This was a very naughty, controversial hot topic movie at the time. It was like the rave movie. Yeah, yeah. But I did get the soundtrack because it was like the most amazing soundtrack. Lot of no doubt. A lot of no doubt on this. That one song is so good. But that like steal, like Len, that steal my sunshine.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It was on the radio just like constantly and I loved that song. So I just bought the soundtrack instead of, I guess they had an album and that would have benefited the artist more. But I didn't do that. But yeah, then I watched it, I guess years later in college and thought it was really cool. And I was glad I got to see it then. Arnie, thoughts on Go going into this? It came out in 1999, which I think we all. all know is an incredible year for movies and also I was in grad school. I was in my prime like
Starting point is 00:11:00 movies are burned into your brain age. Uh, so I remember like every movie trailer I saw at that age, let alone all the movies. So I definitely saw this in the theater. Remember really loving it. But it was, thank you for, this was the first time that I've revisited it since then. Oh, cool. Yeah, me too. Um, Matt, thoughts on, thoughts on go pre this? I, I've never seen it. I, I, have never seen it. I, very much remembered the poster and it vaguely in my mind I was always like oh this is a John Favreau movie
Starting point is 00:11:33 that's not the case it seems like if Favreau walked into any frame you would not be surprised right exactly not bad an eye if young thin 90s Favreau is it possible you got there from Doug Lyman the director is the director of swingers
Starting point is 00:11:49 so there's some swingers DNA and I'm looking at the poster right now and one version of the poster says from the people who brought you swingers and that's how I got there. There's the connection. Yeah, but no, never saw it. It was
Starting point is 00:12:04 a Katie Holmes movie and I was like nah, I'm too cool. I'm going to go see Magnolia with my dad. I only see Jennifer Love Hewitt movies. I would never see a Katie Holmes movie. Also, before we talk, I want to hear this from everybody.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Has anyone ever been to a rave? Yes. In the 90s, is Matt the only one who's rave? Not in the 90s. Uh-huh. No, as an adult. Okay. As a general rule, the Christmas music expert is not also the drug culture expert.
Starting point is 00:12:39 So no, I have not. Really? I can tell you about some peppermint bark I've eaten. You want to hear my ranking of various cinnamon brooms? It's not an impression. Yeah, I went, I, I've only ever been. to, if you don't count Burning Man, which is a rave, sort of. I've been to one rave, and it was in, like, it was classic.
Starting point is 00:13:04 It was a warehouse. Everyone was dancing, and I got to kiss a girl. Wow. Yeah, I know. It was classic. I was like, this, man, I wish I was doing this more often, and then I never went again. I think I actually did go to a rave now that I remember it. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Oh, yeah. Not a 90s one, but a 2010s one. Right. Yeah, that's one I went. For raves. I think it was like 2013 or 14. It was in Brooklyn, in a warehouse. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I was with this, I was dating this guy who was horrible, and I called him David Hot David. And that was his code name. I did, I did. Was it supposed to be a pun on David Hyde Pierce? No, it was just that I was dating a lot of people and there were a couple of David, so I had to, like, differentiate. Sure. Anyway, New York is a David heavy town. A lot of David.
Starting point is 00:13:56 But I did Molly for the first time and just like, and the only time. I'll never do that again. And freaked out. You freaked out on Molly? Yes. And I was wearing an Ace Ventura costume. We were all assumed that. We were all featuring you in Ace Ventura costume.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Were you speaking out of your butt too? Sometimes. But the thing is I didn't, I did the quaff of my hair, but I didn't. dye at brown or color it brown, so everyone thought I was Miley Cyrus. Oh, no. It was a costume rave, right? It was. It was for Halloween. Oh, okay. But yeah, it was
Starting point is 00:14:32 crazy. I had like a little bit of a panic moment in a trailer that was in the warehouse. Is it true is it true that all raves are one holiday or another themed Halloween, Christmas? I don't think so. I think there was a time
Starting point is 00:14:48 in the 90s when people just went to warehouses holidays be damned and had raves but the ones the one I went to was also some sort of holiday theme so maybe
Starting point is 00:15:02 maybe we're not like real rave heads I mean I'm definitely not a rave head but I definitely went to one but I wish I could have gone in the 90s that would be cool never been to one and I've also never been to a warehouse so
Starting point is 00:15:15 not even a men's warehouse no I well you've seen me dressed up for a night on the town I've been to a men's warehouse because, yeah, I like the way I look. Wow, never been to a warehouse. Never been to a warehouse. I've never been to a warehouse. So yeah, if anybody out there knows of any good warehouse rave in the southern California area.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Arnie, you warehouse head? What's up? What's up? I have one warehouse story. I worked in a distribution warehouse for a summer when I was in like probably college. and the sad part of it was that there was a local newscaster who the news station had closed down so he was now working in the distribution warehouse he was so demoralized but he still always talked like he was hosting a TV show so he would he would I just remember him being like
Starting point is 00:16:09 well I'm going to unload this truck and then I'm going to go to the bathroom take a shit and do a little pocket pool and I'll be back after this and I was And I'm not exaggerating very much I said back after this Well hey Sounds like warehouses are amazing places You gotta go Gotta get to a warehouse
Starting point is 00:16:31 Gotta get to a warehouse I'm Googling warehouse near me But I worked there all summer And I didn't kiss a girl So it wasn't as good as Matt's warehouse experience Yeah my warehouse really pretty cool But you were dressed like the mask right Yeah yeah yeah obviously
Starting point is 00:16:45 Oh wait no so was I I kept saying smoking until someone made out with me Somebody stop me from make it out My name is Cuban Pete Yeah I did the whole Cuban Pete thing My face Um Well
Starting point is 00:17:01 This movie has warehouses in it Although maybe not as many as like it was advertised to have It's really like there's only a little bit of raving in the movie It's mostly kind of like a crime caper Anyway it was sold to us as the rave movie but it does start out with electronic music kids raving around and what I can only assume is a warehouse and then we get some lines of dialogue from Katie Holmes
Starting point is 00:17:29 some cryptic lines of dialogue about Christmas being all about surprise will we learn what she's talking about later in the movie yes we will because this is told out of order and when you're 16 that will blow your fucking mind So she is part of a little crew of real 90 slackers. They're working at a grocery store called Sons, which is clearly just a Vons in L.A. with the S swapped in for the V.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I like, I also, there was part of me was like, or John's. John's. Could have been a Johns. Part of me was like, is this a Johns? Might be a Johns, you're right. I've got a Johns. That's the one next to me.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Oh, nice. It smells weird. Yeah, well, it's a weird place. I think, I think, if I'm guessing what the L.A. Regional grocery store chain hierarchy is, I think Vons was probably first, and then Johns is like, we can just have a similar sign. Yeah. And then.
Starting point is 00:18:32 I've always wondered how that was allowed. Seems like it shouldn't be. It's basically the same sign. It was like, nobody at, you know, at Vons Corp. It was like, come on, guys. I thought they were just the same, but They thought maybe different regions of the city liked different letters.
Starting point is 00:18:51 No, it's just one random Johns that exists. We need more V over here. Yeah. If they ever do like an anniversary, like, release of this movie, they should like do one of those pop-ups where they open up a suns and we could all, you know, how they open up like the burger place from coming to America anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah. Yeah, and you're like, of all the locations in this movie, the one I really want to go to, It's a depressing grocery store. I don't want to go to the strip club. I don't want to go to the rave. I want to go to the sad grocery store that is coated as the place that will crush your soul. Either that or the ditch where Rana almost dies.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Oh, that ditch. I want to be in that ditch. Take me there. Take me to the ditch. If you were in that ditch, do you think you would look around and be like, hold on. Am I crazy or is this the ditch from Go? Is this the ditch from Go? Guys, am I insane.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Somebody Google it. Yeah, it's a very, this is a very like L-A-E-L-A movie. I like that a lot about it. So she's working at Sons. There's a bunch of slackers. They're all working there. You know, being mean to the customers, talking about pop culture. Katie Holmes has a real horny British co-worker.
Starting point is 00:20:02 He is the 90s movie Horny guy, always talking about how horny he is. He puts some mistletoe above his dick, tries to get people to say. suck it. Cool guy. Yeah, cool dude. Our main character is Rona. She is getting evicted. So she kind of picks up a shift from horny British guy so he can go to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:20:25 He can go off and do his little plot line. But we're following hers. They get a visit from Jay Moore and, oh, who's that other actor, Scott Wolf? Jay Moore and Scott Wolf, the 90s names, they're going to keep coming. They are. so they're these like they're they're playing these like kind of like cool guys who are looking for drugs they try and buy drugs from her because they thought they were they were originally supposed to buy drugs from horny British guy but she's there so they try and buy them from from her and she's just always looking for a buck so she says she's going to go to his drug dealer or his drug source and just sell these random dudes uh the drugs so they go to the her his suppliers house Driving around L.A., we see a blockbuster, fun to see a blockbuster. Those are the days.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Remember just driving around L.A., getting some orange juice at suns, going to Blockbuster. Bring me back. Take me there. Make L.A. great again. Thank you. Come on, Gavin Newsom. Open up blockbusters again. Oh, speaking of locations, there's the apartment.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's the drug dealer's apartment they eventually go to is the Navarre or Nervoir. or apartments and I it's got that neon sign above it yeah I tried to get an apartment there just because I liked the neon sign oh yeah yeah I've tried it and I was like that's the place I'm supposed to be living I mean is this the apartment from go I mean they really do a good job of like LA LA scumbag culture in this like all the apartments are just right especially this one where they meet great little jump scare i didn't know he was in this movie timothy oliphant is the drug supply he has shirtless he has orange hair he's a fucking psycho he's awesome he looks like sugar ray it
Starting point is 00:22:23 fucking rules yeah i also i also thought he looks sort of like blonde wolverine like a little bit spiking on the side little bit he might have been a good wolverine now that i think of oh my god he would have crushed it yeah so funny we you know we watched first wives club not too long ago and he pops up in that as like kind of a shitty screenwriter guy oh yeah
Starting point is 00:22:45 he's in this as the drug dealer amazing that this guy played scumbags and then only cowboys for 15 years like I'm done playing scumbags I'm only gonna play cowboys I mean he's
Starting point is 00:22:58 he is so amazing in this too like it just like it is maybe I'm just already in love with him and just think he's a fantastic you know actor I mean I don't know his range
Starting point is 00:23:09 I think I know his range I don't know how wide his range I'm going to be honest with you his range is the least of my concerns sure that's kind of how I feel I'm checking out his range but I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:23:22 range gutters I'm just saying that like even in this like ridiculous role where he's playing a tough guy drug dealer there is just something about his intensity in this that I'm just like
Starting point is 00:23:37 oh he really is the best what a treat This is the era Timothy Oliphant movie This is the era of a lot of Timothy Oliphant intense eye acting Like you're just getting a lot of Eye menace
Starting point is 00:23:48 This and Scream 2 I think He's seen that as well Oh yeah shit Dude we need to I want to watch it just for the oliphant Yeah if you want to see a little Oliphant having fun Did anybody watch Alien Earth
Starting point is 00:24:03 Oh yeah Yeah he's great Alien Earth's pretty good Timothy Oliphant is making a big swing and I love it. He's great. He's being a twitchy weirdo. I think he's a robot.
Starting point is 00:24:13 He's a robot. Oh, yeah. I like justified. Can I consider myself a later era oliphant fan? That's hard to say. Deadwood is kind of...
Starting point is 00:24:24 I mean, Deadwood. Justified. Lord of the Rings, two towers. I mean, we could just list fucking amazing oliphon movies. Pat upon. Pat, yeah. Parapa the Rapa.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Here's the thing. The joke that I just did, you guys may not enjoy, but there's one Lord of the Rings fan in this, who listens to this podcast, who knows I was making a joke about the point where they see the Alley fonts, which are these big elephants in the Lord of the Rings universe. And that person loves that joke.
Starting point is 00:24:56 No, yeah. And hey, Lord of the Rings fan, if you liked that joke and you're not already a max fund member, maximum fun.org slash join. Come on, give us five bucks a month for that. Do it. It's worth it. Educational.
Starting point is 00:25:09 anyway so she gets she gets like ecstasy from timothy oliphant and they they go to sell it to scott wolf j more and uh william fickner is kind of the leader uh maybe the greatest that guy from that thing of all time yeah yeah yeah one of those just like you love him he's everywhere you don't necessarily know his name yeah and he's got he's uh he's someone who does have a really wide range in terms of acting roles like he can play uh a meek guy he can play a scary guy he's kind of all over the place I know him as the blind guy from contact oh yeah sure sure oh so Fickner's there he's
Starting point is 00:25:52 and everybody's being weird and she gets a weird vibe we kind of learn a little more about that later on in the movie but she freaks out she flushes the drugs and she does a like you know she does a thing where she drinks a beer and it's like oh I'm underage so I probably shouldn't be having this beer
Starting point is 00:26:08 So they kind of like have to let her go. She suspects it's a sting. She was right. That was crazy, by the way. The fact that when she's like, I'm 17, I was like, wait, is everyone in high school in this fucking movie? Nah, she's lying about that. Yeah, I think so too. If she's not, it would probably be an oldest teen situation.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah, but she does look super young. I do appreciate how everyone reads pretty young. Like her, Kate Holmes. They seem like early college. sure yeah i know i think i got like yeah their kids in there like 20 so maybe didn't necessarily go to college yeah but katie holmes character talks like she's a little orphan from the 1940s or something like what is that monologue she's got that's her thing that's her thing she speaks like a never watched dawson's creek she did the same thing there
Starting point is 00:26:58 and she was in batman ah that's my impression to katie holes oh my jeepers um so uh manny the like guy who's been driving them around he like sneakily took two of the things and he's having this like bad trip he thinks his cat's talking to him uh should they go back to the grocery store and then we get a whole big dance sequence to the macarena amazing club remix oh the remix is lit this is like i went is macarena good as this was happening yeah And then I was like, this isn't the normal macarena. It might be. Yeah, this was the point at which it became the most 90s movie.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I think we've ever watched. And I found my old sting, you guys. I found it. Here it is. The 90s, parents were supposed to discuss sex with their children. It's the 90s. It's the 90s. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Hell yeah. Damn. Hell yeah. Bringing in, bringing in some running jokes from other shows. let's just do it why not I'm not using that sting anymore I'll never use it again this is now every podcast
Starting point is 00:28:10 this podcast is all podcasts Jamie can you pull up that clip so they need to like give Timothy Oliphant something for the drug she flushed they're just using allergy pills so they have the like bright idea to like go to this Christmas rave
Starting point is 00:28:24 and like just sell fucking you know lameos allergy pills and say their ecstasy when I saw this in theaters I'm like That's so smart. That's so, I was so blown away by how clever that seemed. Yeah. And they do such a good job in this of casting the like lame weiner kids.
Starting point is 00:28:44 They're perfect. Every like lameo who's like, oh, I can kind of feel it when they take the allergy pills. I'm like, this is exactly the kid who would do that. It's like the best two, three line performances. You can't fully express this on audio medium, but I would love to give an award to the guy who has to lift his shirt up to show he doesn't have a wire and then he weirdly dances around in a circle to sort of show.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Like the way he kind of struts around is very funny to me. But Oliphon, he figures it out. He's, and he comes after her. He chases her around and she gets hit by a little yellow car. And then we go back in time to the grocery store to see what happened to horny British guy. He's on his way to Vegas with, I believe, Breckenmeier and Taye Diggs.
Starting point is 00:29:38 The 90s names keep coming. This was the most anxiety throughout the movie. I did not have a fun time with these guys. I'll say that. Yeah, these guys are a lot. Although Tay Diggs, I really appreciate it, has a nice mellow tone. But why would he be friends with these people? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I know. The guys are so crazy. Breckenmire is like, doing, you know, this is a character we had a lot in these types of movies in the 90s. It's the, like, white guy who's, like, doing a black scent. Yeah, the Malibu's Most Wanted guy. Sure. This was everywhere in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah. Seth Green made a career about out of this. Yeah. And the joke is, you're like, hey, you can't talk like that, you know, you're white and everyone does this. And the funny thing about it is, like, how many times are we going to see this character before someone just goes maybe let's not have like it took us 10 years as a society to be like is this funny anymore it's one joke just what if this guy was white and he talked like I don't know if those people really did exist in the late 90s sure sure my middle school was full of it and it was like and then eventually people weren't like that anymore and you were just like wasn't that weird that you used to act like yeah yeah it was a type of guy And I think these movies
Starting point is 00:31:01 Usually short. Usually short. Usually kind of, the movies are always on the side, as this movie is. Of like, this guy's a fucking idiot. But yes, I agree. I think we definitely saw a lot of this in that era. I do think in revisiting this movie, this is where I started to be like, oh, no. Maybe this movie isn't good.
Starting point is 00:31:21 This is where the movie, in my opinion, takes a turn towards, they're banking a lot on us caring about or even liking horny British guys. I hate that guy. I hate that guy so much. So much. And it's like to sort of like leave these characters who you, you know, their ability to act as a range, but like to leave characters that you like and care about to suddenly be following these group of characters who I don't know. I don't think any of these characters are very likable personally. I think they just keep making insane decisions and then getting away with it, but not before suffering a lot. but this guy's decisions were so frustrated he just was like what's that murphy's law he is just murphy's law every single thing he could do wrong he did wrong and it's like oh why are you friends with this guy and i think i i think we're supposed to like maybe believe that he's just so fucked up on everything that he's being insane but you don't really see him doing that many no i think if you just saw him constantly with his like nose in cocaine right this all of what they do would make a little more
Starting point is 00:32:28 sense because they are just acting so crazy throughout this whole segment. There might have been like limits to how much drugs they could show in this movie. You might be right. Yeah. My running theory on this movie is that it's an anomaly in that it's the only movie made in
Starting point is 00:32:44 Hollywood in which none of the producers nor the writer nor the director knows drugs. Like no one has ever done drugs before because he gets like at one point he is having a threesome which is another beautiful 90s trope. Anyone could have a threesome in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And they smoke weed, and he's so high on weed that he tries to do tantric sex and then it burns the hotel room down. Weed does not make you forget that fires next to you. Yeah. It makes you want to watch South Park. Right, right. Well, maybe it was the tantric sex that was like a drug. Yes, that's what got me.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah, it's definitely one of those movies where, like, where weed is like just the stand-in drug where people are smoking weed, they're like, Whoa, man. Yeah. They consulted with Sting for the likelihood of. Yeah. It's definitely the scene that gets us the titular line of, did you go? Oh.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Did you go? Oh, there's a lot of go-go. They do a lot of goes. But that's the first one. I'm like, oh, no. So they're doing a lot of crazy stuff. I did just because we got to tick this box. At one point, Tade Diggs is in the men's room.
Starting point is 00:33:53 He's washing his hands next to a guy with a leather baseball cap. I think this is the worst hat in the most. movie. Nice. The worst hat. Thank you. And then, uh, so yeah, so these guys are just doing all sorts of insane stuff. Um, they steal a car. Someone thinks Tay Diggs is like a, um, valet and just kind of gives him the keys to this like, what I'm assuming was the world's hottest car at the time. Mm-hmm. Um, and so they go. So, so it's like, Tate Diggs is supposed to be this kind of
Starting point is 00:34:19 Zen, uh, you know, like, I think he's supposed to be kind of a sting coded guy, you know, kind of a Zen chill guy who's into tantric sex. Um, um. But he makes insane decisions. Everyone does. In this entire segment or sequence is just... These guys are insane. Right. And so at this point in the movie, after kind of enjoying it for 30 minutes, I was a little bit like...
Starting point is 00:34:43 So they're all criminals? Yeah. All of them. So they... And, you know, there's a scene where he takes a gun out of the glove box, the horny British guy. Oh, I hated this. And maybe this was like a funny improv thing, but it does make him... scene so unhinged.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah. I kind of wanted him to shoot himself. Me too. Yeah. Oh, that's the end of their thing. He died. Yeah. I mean, just get him out of here.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I don't. I mean, I guess it, not to spoil, like, it does kind of pay off at the end how much you hate him, but, but even still, I feel like the only real way the section could be redeemed is if all of them died. Yeah. Like, all of them were killed, including they didn't even have enough characters for the fourth guy to be anybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Like, the fourth friend. Yeah, there is a fourth friend. It's a fourth guy. And he was Frank and wasn't he the rabbit and Donnie Darko? Oh, wow. I didn't know that. That's a pretty good. That's a good resume notch.
Starting point is 00:35:39 So yeah, so they psychotically go to a strip club. The crazy horse. The crazy horse. Classic. Yeah. How does it rank to the other strip clubs we've talked about on the show? You didn't get to see much of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I think it's supposed to be kind of sleazy. And they go in the back room and are told not to touch the dancers by a crazy bouncer guy. Guess what they do? They start at touching the dancers. Well, the British guy starts touching the British guy. Yes, Tate Diggs behaves himself. Yeah, but it's like he's talking to the British guy as if there's no strip clubs in Britain. Are there no strip clubs there?
Starting point is 00:36:19 Like, what's going on? That's a good question. Maybe not. Can you just finger blast the strippers in London? I don't know. I have no clue. Go to Big Ben's and give him the old. How's your governor?
Starting point is 00:36:30 Give them a little bit of bangers and mash. Oh, just ask them for us the ladies for the bangers and mash. You got some vinegar for me fish and slits. Oh. Fish and salt. There you go. Sure. Are you listening, British strip club owners?
Starting point is 00:36:46 Emily's giving you gold or tuppance or whatever. What are you guys using over there? Tuppence? Yeah. You're going to be making so many tuppence off that. So this. starts a like big crazy chase with the uh with the bouncer and the bouncer's like scummy dad they're like after these dudes yeah because he shoots the bouncer uh the bouncer uh the bouncer like they do
Starting point is 00:37:10 there's a like a mob doctor scene where the dad's just like sewing him up in the back room complaining uh and then this cut leads this big chase but they have timothy oliphant's credit card they stole his credit card so that'll kind of bring this season bring this stuff back around um so yeah they they chase them back to la but then we read set and we get the story of Jay Moore and Scott Wolf. So they're at the grocery store and we see them on like a soap opera or a cop show or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Now the cops who, so the ideas that they've been like roped into this undercover thing with William Fickner who's a cop and it's like they have them concoct the story. These are two famous guys. Right. Why are you having them? play not famous guys it's very it that's a little weird they're on the tv in the grocery store where all of the main characters right where they're and they're giving a fake story in that grocery store where they're on tv so stupid but william fickner is like making passes at them this the whole
Starting point is 00:38:16 time it's like saying like oh you guys like work out and stuff he's like underplaying it in a really hilarious way kind of like sinister um it's like yeah it's very funny um and we kind of learn that they are not just co-stars but they're a couple. They have this whole kind of mix up with the main character. Jay Moore feels bad for her and when she's walking to the bathroom tells her, go. So that's our, we got another go there. That's how Rana knew to flush all of the drugs. Right. Because we find out later, the reason she did it is because, you know, one of the actors, Jay Moore, said, go. So, yeah, this is, you know, this is a, it's the go, it's the go drinking game.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Every time you, here go, you take a tab of acid. Oh, shit. Hell yeah. So, so this thing, this thing, like, gets ruined. And then William Fickner says, okay, come have dinner with me and my wife. And this scene, so, okay. It's amazing. This scene is fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:39:24 His wife is Jane Krakowski. A young Jane Krakowski and you know you think you've seen him hit on them and so Jane Krakowski like kisses one of them asks them like what
Starting point is 00:39:38 you know what doing a screen kisses like William Fickner asks him to like smell his Colon he's like K1 and he's naked which great great took us some wonderful buns what a body wonderful buns cakes
Starting point is 00:39:53 yeah he's cake though he's very caked up and then that guy from that thing more like that guy with that ass yeah he's a that ass
Starting point is 00:40:06 you know yeah he's a that ass oh yeah that ass oh yeah Armageddon nice think I've seen that ass in Armageddon
Starting point is 00:40:13 you know once you see that ass once you recognize that ass you're like oh I'm seeing that ass all the time yeah yeah and so you learn
Starting point is 00:40:22 that like they're not trying to fuck these guys. They have a multi-level marketing scheme, and it's a reveal that they're trying to sell them like Amway products. It is so fucking funny. Jane Krakowski is great in this. They're both, they're both like, they're both underplaying it in a way that is so great.
Starting point is 00:40:44 The, like, reveal of this fucking rips. It's, it's, I'd forgotten all about this plot line. And yeah, I was like, I was loving this. I had forgotten about this too, but I also was like, do they want to fuck too? Like, because it seems like they want both. I don't know. Or are they just seducing them in order to get them to do this thing? I think it's the latter.
Starting point is 00:41:02 And that is so funny to me. Yeah. The fact they're like they're seducing them just to get them to the point of having, you know, like a enough of a connection with them, enough trust to sell them, um, way products to do a multi-level marketing scheme. Yeah, basically sexually harassing someone. Oh, yeah. And then trying to get them to join them. multi-level marketing scheme because the scene where they're at the house and they lose Sarah Polly's character, you know, who gets away with, he starts like handcuffing them and
Starting point is 00:41:35 like spreading their legs apart and stuff. He's like, oh, they never get this right in cop shows. Here's how you would actually do it. I know, but it was so like disturbing in a way that I'm like, he did all that just to get you to join to sell Amway stuff. Oh my God. Is it possible that this is actually really realistic? Is the Venn diagram between swingers and Amway salesmen pretty overlapping?
Starting point is 00:42:00 You might have a point. If you're out there and you're polyamorous and involved in a multi-level marketing scheme, let us know, free with ads at maximum fun.org. We want to hear from you. So they learned during this, like getting them back into the main story is like a little bit, a little bit complicated. So they learned that they've both been fucking the like makeup guy. on their show.
Starting point is 00:42:24 And so they know he's going to be at the Christmas rave. Oh, because they go to his apartment and talk to his roommate, Melissa McCarthy. Young Melissa McCarthy has a fucking great one scene in this. She sure does.
Starting point is 00:42:35 She also, you know, the writer of this have made a short film with her beforehand called just God. And he loved her. Like he wrote that part for her and then put her and go.
Starting point is 00:42:50 And it's kind of the same character a little bit, I think. But then she also reprises, like reprises or reprises. I never know how to pronounce that word. That same character in a movie The Nines that has Ryan Reynolds in it. So she's like, he loves her. And I think that's really cool. This is part of a shared universe.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yes, yes. Okay, check it out. Yeah, the great John August wrote this movie. Also wrote Big Fish, a bunch of other stuff. Been on our podcast, Jordan and Jesse Go a couple of times. Hell, yeah. Wonderful, great dude. Host the Script Notes podcast.
Starting point is 00:43:22 um yeah so so they go back to the rave looking for this dude that they've both been fucking after talking to melissa mccarthy um and so they are in the little yellow car that hits rona they um yeah they what happens what now i'm like what happens in the rest of this oh yeah they hit her and then they drive off they drive off they feel bad and come back and they like well no no they drive off this is I think one of the better little twists they drive off and they're like talking about it and they're like talking a lot about like oh do you think she's dead and blah blah blah blah they go to a gas station Scott Wolf goes to make a phone call or goes to the bathroom
Starting point is 00:44:06 and realizes he still has his wire oh yeah that is a good little piece of like connective tissue because it does seem like the stories yeah yeah I like that too so then they're like we got to go back and solve this because there may be a record
Starting point is 00:44:22 of us talking about what we've done. Yeah, so they go back and they think about, they find that she's kind of alive and they think about beating her with the club. Do you guys remember the club and how many fucking jokes we had about the club in the 90s? I didn't even notice that that was the club, but it was a club.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I don't understand how it works. Like, you put it on your steering wheel. And then you can't turn the wheel. And so you're supposed to lock, you were in the 90s, you bought this thing off like late night TV. It was a lock for your stealing, steering wheel and we thought it was
Starting point is 00:44:55 fucking hilarious from it is hilarious it is pretty funny the funniest thing about the club was that you could still drive the car forward yeah and a lot of people
Starting point is 00:45:10 figured out ways so you could drive it I don't know if you guys have ever seen a stolen car before with a club on it but it's very funny every time that was the running gag I think was people still still getting their car stolen even with the club there was a really crazy i had no idea she was going to be alive um like there was no way she was going to be alive because when they got to the gas station i know
Starting point is 00:45:35 but when the two dudes got to the gas station where they realized they had the wire on the windshield is a chunk of her scalp with the hair attached to it oh yeah that's right and i was like oh she is dead dead like and then they come back and i'm like oh okay yeah and And you see her, when you find out she's still alive, you see her later in the hospital. And she looks fabulous. Yes, she does. She looks amazing. Sarah Polly.
Starting point is 00:45:59 She does have a limp. She has a limp. She has a limp. Some butterfly band-aids. Sarah Polly just is amazing. Amazing director, artists in general, but like so beautiful in this movie. I'm like, uh. She, I think that's, that's why I said, like, I'm really invested in the first part.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I feel like Sarah Polly is so, like, you, is so good that you're sort of like, I care about you instantly. essentially and everyone else less so but but I do care about her and her surviving yeah I think I think she you know this this movie does have the like 90 slacker characters and like who are always just like kind of mean to everybody on default and sometimes those are a little bit tough but I think you I agree like of those slacker characters she's you totally root for her and to me I was just like ah that selling aspirin thing that's so clever she can do anything also the hot also the hot The hottest grocery store employees on earth. Yeah, no kidding. It's like the Abercrombie and Fitch ad just went and, like, is working at Vons. Yeah, you got to listen, you got to turn in a headshot if you want to work at Sons. So they leave her on like the hood of a car.
Starting point is 00:47:09 She goes to the hospital and she's like fine. So we are almost at the moment when all of the stories will converge and we'll talk about it right after this. We're back. It's free with ads. We're here with Arnie from Hello from the Magic Tavern. We're talking about Go. So everybody's kind of, oh, so Timothy Oliphant and, um, Katie Holmes Katie Holmes
Starting point is 00:47:55 Thank you Jimmy the Olfott and Katie Holmes are in a diner We didn't really talk about what her story is She just has to sit With Timothy
Starting point is 00:48:00 Yeah she was left as collateral Right With the drug dealer So yeah So she's like into him now They like have Breakfast at a diner And talk about how much
Starting point is 00:48:10 Family Circus sucks I loved this scene When I saw it in high school It's definitely one of those 90s like Royale With Cheese type Conversations That I was really struck
Starting point is 00:48:20 By the Some of the dialogue was not as clever as I remembered it at the time. Some of it, like, I like the plotting loosely of this movie, but the jokes all kind of, the whole movie is very W.B. Tarantino. Yeah. They're just really trying.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And maybe that's why it, like, struck a chord with all of the, like, tweens my age and wanted to see it so desperately, but our parents would not let us see it. The thing about the, we've got a little bit of a manic pixie, like, thing going with Katie Holmes where she thinks she's so quirky. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And it's like a, your eye kind of twitches like, oh my God, Christmas presents. It's like a box, and you don't know what's inside the box until you open it. And you're like, this girl is homeschooled. Yeah, yeah. It's funny. I'm so worried about this girl.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I think how you react to her says, is for at least in my opinion, will change depending on whether or not, Um, you are a heterosexual male. Because I was watching to talk about that and I was like, facts, facts. She's so right about Christmas. She's so right about Christmas. Oh, she knows everything about Christmas.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Yeah. And with Timothy Oliphant was a huge misogynistic prick. I was like, that's fine. Yeah. I'm like, I'll blow you for drugs. Sure. I don't even need the drugs. I'll just, uh, whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:49:45 You cut off, cut off my ear. I'm fine with that. Just hanging around, uh, sitting around around a, And a bunch of TV still in the boxes? Sure. Yeah. Cool, cool. So they go back to, like, his apartment to, like, do it.
Starting point is 00:49:58 But they can't do it because the Vegas thug guys are there. And they realize that he's not the, like, British guy there after. And there's this fucking awesome cut where he's telling them how to find the British guy and he's drawing them a map. He's like, okay, so Lassian, it's going to be backed up. You're going to want to just drawing them an exact map of how to find this guy. I'd kill him. Fairfax.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And I hate to be this guy, but in the beginning of the movie, Timothy Oliphant has an N-64. And in this scene, it's a Nintendo entertainment system. Uh-oh. Took me out of the movie. Well, he probably plays.
Starting point is 00:50:36 He's a collector. But he might play with them and then sell them and then steal someone else's and play with that. He bought it in the in-between time of when he was going to shoot Rana and when he was at the diner.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Okay. I buy that. I got to say that that makeout scene on the stairs was some of the hottest making out. I have seen in a movie because movie makeouts are so dry and not interesting. But this makeout scene was just the right level of darkness and they're already kind of wet from being in the rain and stuff. I know I was. I was like, I love this scene so much. And then a cat and a grown man interrupted it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And I was like, God damn it. Ain't that always the case. Story of my life. Story of my life. So they decide not to shoot the British, not to kill the British guy, but as just as refedge, they're just going to shoot him in the arm.
Starting point is 00:51:32 But like point blank inside of it. Like, what the hell is that? The punchline, by the way, of the scene where he is writing, drawing the map is that the British guy just shows up. Like that is a really funny punchline. That was beautifully done. And then, yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:49 They decide to shoot him point blank in the arm, which I'm like, he's going to, he's going to, like, sever an artery. Yeah, that might kill him. I do think it doesn't quite forgive the whole long Las Vegas sequence, but it is very satisfying to just have the resolution be, these characters being like, oh, sure, I'll tell you where this guy is kill him. Just go ahead here. I'll draw you a map. Yeah, we hate this guy. Yeah. He took my credit card
Starting point is 00:52:19 And him being I like how the British guy Is kind of into the idea too Like obviously he doesn't want to get killed But he's like oh yeah He's very cheerful about being shot in the arm He just says yes to whatever crazy shit is on the table If it's available he's like
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yes I will shoot a guy and grope a stripper Like honestly you know That's a way to live life You know what I'm seeing? You got just got to say yes to that you ever see yes man Jim Carrey I didn't I said no to seeing yes man I should have said yes to see in that movie
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's too bad if you had seen the movie movie, you would have known to say yes. I did? Well, how do I say yes to see in the movie if I didn't see the movie? I know. This is the conundrum. The yes movie conundrum. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Anyway, so they realized that they left Manny somewhere in the middle of the movie. Oh, my God. They find him in a pile of trash. They take him out of the trash. And he's like, what are we doing for New Year's? And I think that's why this is considered to be a New Year's movie. Yeah. Sneaky New Year's.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Sneaky New Year's. Creepy Christmas. Also, that car that she's got, what is that car? It's, I don't know, it looks like it's from the 70s. Is it like a hatchback or something? But it's got like Christmas decorations all throughout the inside of the car. There's like tensile wrapped around the interior and lights and everything. I fucking love it.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Is that a Gremlin? I don't know. Maybe. Well, now that we've talked a little bit about the car in the movie, we have to talk about the hunks in our segment hunk watch Oh It's hunk watch There we go
Starting point is 00:53:52 Okay Arnie for you We all It's hunkwatt Sorry We all the stings That's what people tune in
Starting point is 00:54:00 They like the stings I'm sorry Premature Oh I'm gonna sting Did you sting? Did you go? Matt just Cantor's stinging
Starting point is 00:54:12 I go What if this movie was called sting And they just replace all Like in J. Moore Says sting Which actually would fit
Starting point is 00:54:19 Because it was a sting If I ever lose my pet in you Oh shit Now it would be the perfect time to play Desert Rose Yes it would But I'm not gonna do it I have restraint
Starting point is 00:54:31 Yep You're gonna make us wait for it Like tantric sex Oh it is like tantric sex Ooh play the drop Ooh I need it I need the cup I'm gonna drop
Starting point is 00:54:42 I'm gonna drop I don't know Oh sorry Hot watch A guatch. R&A for you, we all pick a hunk of the movie. It can be anyone.
Starting point is 00:54:53 It can be things, could be objects. Do you have any thoughts on the hunks of this film? I guess I'm still, I'm still a little unclear on what you mean. Like classically a hunk or something?
Starting point is 00:55:08 We can come back to you. We'll let you, we'll let you observe for a minute. Yes, yes. I imagine Emily has some thoughts on this. Oh, yeah. I mean, Timothy, is it Oliphant? I was always saying, Olafant. Both are acceptable.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah, good God. So any movie that he's in, he's probably going to be my hunk. Tough not to give it to him, yeah. Yeah, but then those cakes on. The cakes on Fickner. Yeah, I think I might have to go with the cakes on the thick. Is it the thickies on Fickner? I think, I think Timothy Oliphant can go ahead and just join the Hunk Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Oh, yeah. And he's just there. He's up in the rafters. And, yeah, we can, we can, we don't, we don't have to make Oliphant the hunk every time he appears on screen, although it's hard not to. Yes. One of the fucking greats. But yeah, I, I am with you. I think Fickner is so great in this and also, and also quite has some daddy energy.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I like how boring their house is too when you go to their house. It like, looks kind of tacky and ugly. It's like, oh, these are the products you're selling. And they're just serving ham. they're serving ham oh god what a boring dinner to come over to just ham what wine goes with ham
Starting point is 00:56:24 that was my favorite I did love I didn't notice this the first like when I watched it before but they you know Scott Wolf and Jay Moore know exactly what wine you're supposed to drink with ham and then their hosts are not drinking the same wine they're not drinking the appropriate
Starting point is 00:56:40 wine Scott will like it's white wine and Jay, but Fickner and Jane are drinking red wine. Just a small visual joke. I like that. Matt, any thoughts on hunks? I mean, you named two, I think, of the most obvious
Starting point is 00:56:57 ones, but I'm going to go with a Mr. Taye Diggs, a.k.a. The sting of the movie. Sorry, that was my desert roast. That was good. That was a nice tease. Little taste. Mumb, num, num, little taste.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Hold on. Dream of rain. Yeah, there we go. I mean, not to just force you to make stings, but can we, for a few trips, can we have a Roxanne? Yes, yes, I will make one. Something for, you know, if you have any downtime.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Ooh, can we have a fields of gold? Yeah, yeah. Those are all good sting, sting ideas. Two second chunks. So, yes, Arny, do you, now, having heard the hunk watch. Do you have any future, any further thoughts on? Well, my real answer is probably Fickner or Alphant,
Starting point is 00:57:51 what they, you know, what they lack in their names being easy to pronounce. They make up in hunkiness. But just have an interesting choice. I'll say rave Santa. Rave Santa is a hunk. Big green rave Santa. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:05 He was pretty hot. I like it. He was pretty hot. All right. Well, we talked about the hunks. We're going to talk about what we thought. of the movie overall when we come back. We're back. We're back. We're back. It's free with ads. We're here with Arnie from
Starting point is 00:58:41 Hello from The Magic Tavern. And we are going to rank go on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials. But first, we want to remind you to go to maximum fun.org slash join. That's how you hear our bonus episodes. That's how you hear all of the Max Fun bonus episodes. We got an episode up there now on the Power Rangers Christmas special. Oh, so good. Review the surprisingly fantastic Power Rangers Christmas special.
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Starting point is 01:00:10 Arnie, do you want to go first? one to ten what you think uh i really did enjoy it not as a lot of it was nostalgia i do think the surprise like the twists it keeps doling out twists that are mostly satisfying and fun um i'm tempted to give it a seven although i have you guys ever heard the theory you should just eliminate a seven from a ranking and force people to uh choose an eight or a six because people always default to seven like seven is always the like seven is always the like I liked it but I don't know I'm going to play it safe yeah I don't know if I've ever given anything a six yeah I don't think I've ever
Starting point is 01:00:51 given a six in my goddamn life it scares you which is weird because I am a Los Angeles six yeah I was going to say that but but I do six feels a little below what I feel so can I give it a six point five you can give it a six point five sure Arnie, I am going to cowardly give it a seven. I was thinking seven this whole time. I really had a fun time watching this. Yeah, there's some stuff that doesn't hold up great. Yeah, definitely like a lot of unpleasant characters.
Starting point is 01:01:24 You know, some like jokes that haven't aged well, but like some of the stuff in it is fucking hilarious. And yeah, so you have that. And yeah, all the twists and turns, I think, are really fun and satisfying. And yeah, just nostalgia for days. A lot of great needle drops. Some, you know, just fun, fun vibes all around.
Starting point is 01:01:40 And yeah, and I think this is one where it blew my mind when I saw it as a kid and I watched it. And I'm like, that was legitimately a good movie. I was right at the time. I was not right about some other things, but this, I was. So yeah, I'm going to give it a seven. I think if you like this era or, you know, want to revisit it, I would say definitely give it a shot. Emily, what did you think? I had a great time watching this movie.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I forgot about like all of the tied in, how everything ties in. It was fun. It felt like watching it again because I hadn't seen it in a while. I do like the structure where it's like the points of view of the characters a la weapons, you know. Oh, yeah, sure. It's a little bit of weapons. And so I love that now because I like things spelled out for me. Baby one spoon fed to a mouth, like, you know.
Starting point is 01:02:32 But I liked that and the cast is like to die for. What an amazing cast. it moves really fast but yeah I get a little anxious during this movie so I don't think I could sit down to watch it for another like decade or so because it makes me so anxious but I also grade things on how cool it is to have on the background at a party that's right this is the coolest this is a good one movie to have on in the background of a party so I'm going to give it an eight oh wow Matt what you think I I am also going to give it an eight. It is, I think there's something about 90s movie pacing that just, I think, because I was born in that era, for me, watching this movie, I could sit and not look at my phone and kind of enjoy it. Even with the parts that I thought were stupid, like it, maybe it's, I don't know, it's like the, if Adderon was a movie. Maybe that's why.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Okay. But like the fact that my ADHD wasn't acting up during it and I just found myself kind of sucked into what is essentially like a really stupid movie. Like I just really enjoyed it. It was funny. About really stupid people. Right. About really stupid people. But it was, uh, yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:04:03 I'm giving an eight. That's so funny. I didn't even realize I didn't look at my phone once. Yeah. Watching this movie either. Yeah, it's pretty, like, it is pretty captivated. I know what you mean about the pace. It does seem like it's paced from another time in a way that I really liked, too.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah, we also watch a lot of weird fucking, like, we watch, like, there are some movies that we watch that I'm, I, I, uh, that are a slog to get through. And this one, I was just like, I'm enjoying it. Yeah, I'm realizing now that my rating seems low, but it's only that I haven't been watching as many punishing movies. Well, you eliminated the seven, Arnie, so this is your ball. It would have been a seven, yeah. Um, all right. Well, that is our ranking of go. Uh, Arnie. Thank you so much for joining us. Uh, feel free to plug any podcast you're involved with or anything else you want to. Look, if you still have a stomach for any Christmas stuff, I am really proud of no skip Christmas. I've had a lot of great guests come on and recommend Christmas songs. And, and the reception has been people saying they, they actually are finding stuff to add to their playlist that that is good. And, and people who don't like Christmas music have found.
Starting point is 01:05:09 the songs that they like, but it's also just a fun hangout podcast, you know, like this, where it's an excuse to sort of chat with people and tell some jokes, basically. If you don't like that, there's a decade plus of episodes of Hello from the Magic Tavern. If you're not sure where to start, start with a Jordan episode, start with Emily's episode. They're very funny. You can start at the very beginning. There's a whole weird canonical story that builds. But if you don't want to do that, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:05:35 It's not like it's going to make a lot more sense. You can really jump in anywhere. And it'll explain itself. It's a blast. It's a hilarious legendary podcast. Check out both those shows. Emily, anything? No.
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