Free With Ads - Misery

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

This week we honor the life and legacy of Rob Reiner by watching one of his funniest and scariest movies, Misery - the Stephen King adaptation about how parasocial relationships with content creators ...can be very toxic.Tune in next week for our 100th episode when our movie will be... Repo! The Genetic Opera-----Visit Emily's ETSY store FlemGemsSee Matt do stand up at the Ice House Comedy Club in Pasadena on January 24th at 7PM. Buy tickets NOW!Listen to Jordan's appearance on NPR's Pop Culture Happy HourJordan will be at the Pasadena ComicCon on January 25th! Get your tickets now!Finally, click this link to get a signed copy of PREDATOR Bloodshed #1-5! https://bit.ly/coolfight 

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Starting point is 00:00:28 This is free with ads, the podcast that asked the question, why pay HBO Max 11 bucks a month for a bunch of Stephen King adaptations when you can go online for free and watch the greatest Stephen King adaptation of all time? Yeah, you heard what I said, Dream Catcher, and the TV movie version of The Shining, starring Stephen Weber from Wings. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is Rob Reiner's Oscar-winning masterpiece, Misery,
Starting point is 00:00:56 which is the story of what one of our... listeners will do to Jordan someday. With us, as always, is the super producer, The Dirty Bird. Matt Lee, hitting us with those Caca Doody Drops. You're just another lying old dirty birdie. And I don't think I better be around you for a while. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:01:14 You caught it, dude. Savage. That was just wonderful. I got to say Caca Doody Drops might be my favorite puny drop thing that we've done in an intro. You're a genius. Well, stop. I listen. I love this movie. you know, spoiling, spoiling my thoughts
Starting point is 00:01:31 a little bit up top. I've never seen it. This is the first time. Really? Oh my gosh. What fun. I can't wait to hear what you thought about it. Matt, you seen it. Oh, I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I've read it. I've read it. I forgot that you like did most of the Stephen King fan. But to a degree that's also strange because I did not know they made a movie out of Dream Catcher. That must have sucked ass. I watched a little bit on cable once.
Starting point is 00:01:57 It seems pretty bad. I think Jason Lee's in it. I liked it. I need to watch it. Maybe I'll like it. The book itself is like, is not bad, but it kind of, uh, trying to make an adaptation of a special needs magic special needs kid. Yeah. That's got to not be great to watch.
Starting point is 00:02:16 But who knows? Who knows? Wait, I might not be thinking of the same movie. You're thinking of thinner. No, no. I think of the one where all the guys are in the woods and there's a monster. Is that not great dream catcher? This is dream catcher, but that's a couple of Stephen King movies.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I think you're thinking about the kid and then the people in the hotel. That's the shining. The shining. No, there's another one. Never mind. There probably is another one. Listen, the guy, listen. He has themes he returns to.
Starting point is 00:02:48 They sure does. I mean, don't we all? Anyway, we are going to talk about misery, which is, as of this recording, streaming free with ads. But first, we want to talk about something else we saw for free. on the internet this week. Other free stuff. There you go. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:03:03 In 2026, you're finally giving it a little breath before the drop. So in this segment, we have been doing a lot of Ninja Turtle related content. We have. Some like Ninja Turtle singing videos, their appearances in various parades. I thought we'd keep that going. I was looking for some more Ninja Turtle content. And then as I was browsing, I got kind of nostalgic for like a simpler time on the internet. You know how bad the internet is now.
Starting point is 00:03:34 It's real bad. It's terrible. But for a while, it was. We're on it. Yeah, we're. Oh, God. I know. That's proof.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Proof enough. We should be taken off this thing. I would never join a club that would make me a member. That's the best I can do, all right? It was fine. So I was getting nostalgic for. for the days of the BuzzFeed quiz. Remember when the BuzzFeed quiz
Starting point is 00:04:00 is a fun thing to do online? Hell yeah. I'm Miranda. That's right. So. I'm Hogwarts. I'm a pumpkin spice latte. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Classic. Guys, if you were wondering, is there a BuzzFeed? Which Ninja Turtle are you quiz? There is. Hell yeah. I have taken it myself. I thought I would administer it to both of you.
Starting point is 00:04:26 here in the Ninja Turtle segment of the show. So we'll find out which Ninja Turtle you are. Any guesses going into this, which turtle do you think you will come up with? Michelangelo. Michelangelo. You think you're a Michelangelo? Yeah, I mean, maybe, I mean, who knows?
Starting point is 00:04:44 A party dude. Yeah, I always thought I was a party dude, you know. I was always like, oh, that guy's cool. He's Californian, but lives in the sewers of Brooklyn for some reason. Yeah. He serves. It's made no sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And so I, you know, I always related more to Michelangelo. But who knows? The BuzzFeed quiz might tell me something that, you know, will surprise me. Which one is the one that's got a short fuse? Is that Raphael? That's Raphael. Yeah. I'm going to gamble and say that's me.
Starting point is 00:05:13 The one that's always flying off the handle. And also he's got the red, you know, eye thing. Yeah. I mean, I think that if I remember correctly, I thought Donatello was like the cool one. Is he the more calm collected one? Donatello does machines. So he's kind of the nerd tech guy. Wait, then what's Leonardo do?
Starting point is 00:05:34 He's the cool collected. Oh, so he's cool. Donatello's. But it's a little boring, you know, like a little bit. You know, he's like, now guys, we got a train to the foot clan. Is that related to like Donatello, like whoever that artist was? Because I thought they were all artists. So there's Leonardo da Vinci.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah. So I would think that DaVinci would be the one who could. could build things or was into the human body or something. I don't know if that much thought was put into the Ninja Turtles. Jordan, I think that there's nothing is a coincidence, okay? You know what? That's so true. You're right.
Starting point is 00:06:08 That's so true. Well, hey, let's do this thing. I've got it open in two windows. I'll get your answers to both of these questions. First question, which, what's a word that best describes you? Confident, wise, funny, smart, adventurous, rebellious. Matt will go with you first. Funny.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Funny. Emily, what do you think? I'd say rebellious probably. Okay, rebellious. I want to change mine to wise. No, no. We'll keep it funny. We'll keep it funny.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Wait, what do you mean? No. I do think you're wise, though. I am wise. You are wise. You have a lot of wisdom. You're wiser than your daughter, so that's at least... Yeah, she's a fucking idiot, though.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Can't even change attire. Did you get the princess dress nightgowns that I told you get? Oh, no, not yet, but we got a bunch of... Okay, because I got her one. Oh, really? Come on. Yes. It's cheap as fuck, but you were saying that like, but it's cute. She loves him. She loves nightgown dresses. Matt was saying that his daughter wants to sleep in her princess dress costumes and I totally get that, but I'm like, you know they make nightgown versions of princess dresses, right? Well, yeah, once you said that, then we started getting those. But you got her one? That is so nice. I, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Not that cute. I hope it's big enough because she's like, well, she's tall as hell. You're whatever ninja turtle is the most generous. The most generous turtle. Well, just wait and find out how itchy it is or something. She itches anyway. She's got my skin. Her father's delicate skin.
Starting point is 00:07:40 She does. It sucks. Her mother's will and her father's eczema. Straight up, though. Okay. Next, pick a color for your superhero costume. Red, blue, beige, black. Purple, orange.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I feel like they're really... Yeah. That's that sophisticated. Yeah, this one I... I'm gonna pick orange. Orange. Emily, where are you going? Oddly enough, I'm gonna go purple.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Okay, purple. Yeah. I can't just be a Crayola red. You know, I can just be red up top and all the round. Yeah. Okay. Choose another comic book character you'd want to have as your sidekick.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Superman, Spider-Man, Deadpool, Catwoman, the Hulk, Joker. Joker. Wow. Okay. Joker. Emily's going Catwoman. Catwoman.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Absolutely. I'm in this for the jewelry. I'm in this for asking whether or not we live in a society. Finally we'll figure out if we live in a society. Help me, Joker. Okay. Now it's time to face off against the villain. What song do you choose to play?
Starting point is 00:08:46 Bad Blood by Taylor Swift, holding out for a hero by Bonnie Tyler. Scarface, push it to the limit by Paul Ingaman. What year? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I blacked out after Bonnie Tyler. Do it again. Scarface, push it to the limit by Paul Ingaman.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You can't touch this by MC Hammer. Uptown Funk by Mark Ronson featuring Bruno Mars, straight out of Compton by NWA. Oh, so I'm going up against a bad guy. Yeah, and I have to choose one of those songs. I'm going bad blood. Bad blood. That is good, you know. It's a good song to fight to.
Starting point is 00:09:23 What was the name of that guy, Engelment? What'd you say? I don't know. I'm... I just like hearing you say it. Paul Engam, E-N-G-E-M-A-N. I've never heard of Scarface. Only...
Starting point is 00:09:36 I want that song, but only if you can intro it before I walk in and say the name of the guy. Because I don't know who that guy is. Fighting to Scarface, push it to the limit by Paul Ingen-Man. Next question. And finally, last question. Pick an actor to star in an action film with Chris Evans, Umma Thurman, Kiana Reeves, Jet Lee, John Carlo Esposito, or Jennifer Lopez. All right. Am I a turtle yet?
Starting point is 00:10:07 I'm still not a turtle. You know, this is just a guy. Um-U-A-Thirman. I'm going to Uma-Thirman. Okay, you knew immediately, Uma Thurman. I mean, I like John Carlo Esposito. I think he would be a fun, fun action sidekick. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah. He doesn't need to always be a villain. You know? That's true. He's got layers. He does. He does. He's got range. Okay, I think it's time to calculate your Ninja Turtle scores.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I'm going to be splinter, I can tell. Oh, no. You're going to be like, you're too smart. The one where he's the little CGI guy in the cage, the tiny one? Yeah, or the splinter. Oh, he's not CGI. He was like practical effects. Remember in that movie?
Starting point is 00:10:50 Full grown puppet. He was a puppet. It was the best little puppet. I liked to win the little baby turtles said, pizza, pizza. In the ooze one? That was sick. Okay. We have our answers.
Starting point is 00:11:02 We got them. Okay. We got him. Okay. Matt, you are Donatello. What? Yeah, I don't know shit about machines. You does machines.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I don't do machines. Then you're not wise. Apparently you do do machines. I don't. Oh, I did everything Michelangelo style. Where did they get machines from? I don't know. Maybe it's John Carlo Esposito.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Maybe it's just. Doncarlo. Maybe it's me wanting to hang out with the Joker as a friend. That might be it too. Emily. Yes. Emily is our Michael. Emily is our Michelangelo. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Hardy, dude. She's never even done heroin before. I haven't. But last night I stayed out till 6 a.m. Okay. You guys, listen, last night I stayed out until 6 a.m. Last stop was a waffle house. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And, but I was hanging out. I went and did interviews at the cat show. the Nashville cat show in Nashville at the fairgrounds. And I got drunk with this guy Perry who works at the cat show and he usually has moonshine behind his booth.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Hung out with him there. Interviewed a lot of people. Then went and got drunk at a bunch of other places. Hung out with a male stripper. Ended up at Waffle House. So, yeah, I am. I am Michael Angelou.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I mean, this is also Michelangelo shit right here. And I spent all of last night fucking a machine. I have a fuck machine. Hey, hey, your wife has a name. Yeah. We call her the machine.
Starting point is 00:12:30 The machine. Well, yeah, that's the Ninja Turtle's buzz quiz. And now we're going to talk about misery. But before we do, we want to let you know that this movie mentions suicide. So if that's not something you want to hear us talk about, we're going to play a little music and give you a chance to find another episode. Hey, we're back. It's Free with Ads.
Starting point is 00:13:01 We are talking about misery, which Matt and I have seen. Emily, shocked you've never seen this one. Yeah. No, this is cool. This is fun to like see stuff for the first time on the podcast. I'm very excited that we did this. I was dreading it, to be honest, because it's, you know, the classic scene with the, is it hobbling or hobbling?
Starting point is 00:13:20 Yes, I think, yeah, I think everybody kind of knows that. And I definitely knew it going into the movie when I was 12 or something. Yeah, and so I knew the basic premise, but I did not know how it's going to end. I did not know like the process or whatever, but I was like, this is going to be a bummer. is going to be a bummer. It is sure called misery. I know. They're kind of giving you some clues with the title.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I told my parents, I'm like, I'm going to sit down and watch misery if you want to come. They're like, I don't know if I want to. They both get soup and are just completely enthralled by the movie immediately. Yeah. We're all watching it. A good soup movie. My dad made this amazing white bean chili the other night. Oh, that sounds amazing.
Starting point is 00:14:01 But so then we went down a rabbit hole watching top tens of like all Stephen King adaptations. What's the best one? And this is like number three almost always. It's like Shawshank, shining and misery. And it makes total sense. I thought it was going to be like, oh, I can't wait for this to be over. It was so amazing. It's great.
Starting point is 00:14:21 It's fantastic. How many, what's the score I'm going to give? I don't know. We'll see. You got to listen to the podcast. That's right. Well, yeah, let's talk about it. So it starts out with James Kahn playing.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Haggard writer Paul Sheldon. He's finishing up a novel. He's got some champagne on ice and he's got a cigarette, a Lucky Strike cigarette with one match. That was my cigarettes when I used to smoke cigarettes. Nice. Yeah, because I thought it made me look cool, but I really wanted to drink,
Starting point is 00:14:52 I really wanted to smoke camel lights in the pink and black box. Oh, yeah, the camel red lights. That's what I did. They were cute. But yeah, yeah, nothing, you know how cigarettes look more delicious in movies than in real life? That's true. That is the most delicious cigarette I've ever seen in a movie.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah, they film the hell out of this cigarette. They really show it to you. Yeah, and it's also like context dependent too because you can tell that it's the celebration cigarette. So they really savor it in that shot. It's like the food in big night. Yeah, this is a movie directed by Rob Reiner, who recently passed away. And it was, you know, I was kind of going through. his catalog of movies that he's directed.
Starting point is 00:15:41 And I realized that I didn't fully appreciate how good of a director he was until I rewatch this movie. Just shot by shot, I was just like, ooh, like opening with him finishing and having the champagne and the cigarette, I was like, yeah, he knows what he's doing. He's very good.
Starting point is 00:15:57 And the crazy thing, I mean, such a bummer, everything, and I've been bummed about it for a while. But he also directed, my favorite movie, The Princess Bride. Oh, yeah. Same screenwriter. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And I didn't realize that until I saw William Goldman come up as the screenplay or the adapted screenplay writer. I was like, oh, all right, then I might be into this. Let's go. Yeah, William Goldman's the best.
Starting point is 00:16:23 He also wrote Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, which has an all-timer for me. But yeah, this is great. And like, that guy and Rob Reiner, like the amount of different stuff that they did. Like Rob Reiner invented the mockumentary
Starting point is 00:16:35 then directed one of the greatest rom-coms of all time, one of the greatest fantasy movies of all time, and this one of the greatest thriller. Like the guy just, like, over the ports for a couple of years, just like did amazing... Genre-defining movies. Yeah, totally. Yeah, and he also did Stand By Me,
Starting point is 00:16:52 so he's done Stephen King... Yeah, that's right. Stand-by-Me. He named his production company Castle Rock, which is directly from Stephen King. It's not a real town. It's something Stephen King invented. So, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Crazy. Stephen King, obviously, there's a lot going on there. And stand by me is, yeah, just another excellent, like, that's an adaptation that is, I think. Stand by me. It's fantastic. And I think it's as an adaptation better than the actual novel, or I guess it's a shorter, it's a novella, I think. But yeah, anyway, so this is a good opening shot. We like the opening shot.
Starting point is 00:17:28 So Paul Sheldon, he's finishing up his book. He's celebrating with that champagne and that cigarette. he puts the one copy of the manuscript in a leather bag gets in his car, starts driving down a snowy road, listening to Shotgun by Junior Walker. Great song.
Starting point is 00:17:45 That'll come back. We see a little flashback with his agent. He is... Lauren Bacall, yeah, very fun and like a two-scene role in this. I mean, not many people in this movie, but yeah, she's in it for a couple scenes, and it's great.
Starting point is 00:18:01 He is a romance writer. He just, just finished Misery's Child, which is, yeah, supposed to be kind of like the final book. He kills the main character whose name is Misery. Weird. And, yeah, so that's about to come out. He's kind of like, you know, it's kind of a monkey on his back. He doesn't really like these books.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I think if we were making this movie now, he would be writing horny hockey books or something where people harvest come from Minotars. Right. Well, what's the, that show Pluribus, where the lead, I don't know if you guys have watched it. I have watched Pluribus. Yeah. But the lead is also sort of like a fantasy romance writer. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah. And a lot of the specifics from her books in that do you seem like the ones from this book. Yeah, for sure. I have to say that it is a, it's funny that this is an archetype of a character that you're supposed to sort of, I guess, sympathize with, which is incredibly successful writer who's sad. Who's sad? Because he's too successful. Everyone wants my novels Well, sorry bro
Starting point is 00:19:08 That must suck Well my favorite thing is that his agent Like cares about his family and stuff That's interesting I don't really Imagine that Well I mean I don't know what it's like to have an agent Anymore
Starting point is 00:19:22 But you know But it's like I just loved how his agent It was like I called his daughter You know her birthday's coming up And stuff I'm like Who the fuck is this bitch? This is amazing Is this what the 90s were like?
Starting point is 00:19:32 I don't hear from you for a couple days. I call the police. My client is missing. Help. I haven't heard from my client in a few days. Help me, small town sheriff. I will tell you this, that mythical, nice people, I didn't show up to an online meeting, and they contacted Jenna. And Jenna found me, and she's like, I track her location.
Starting point is 00:19:56 She's at home. She's okay. Because I missed a meeting. I love that. I know. So nice. There you go. So he is driving around with this manuscript.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's his passion project book. We don't really get a lot of details about it, but we think it's something kind of personal from his childhood. Wouldn't you know it? Cars skids off the road. He crashes. But someone, someone,
Starting point is 00:20:20 pries his door open with a crowbar and straight up fireman carries him away. Yeah. Yeah. The strength. Totally. I know. You kind of like, in the beginning,
Starting point is 00:20:30 you're like, who is this? Like, so, you know, starts out, you're kind of like this person's a mystery. Maybe they're a little dangerous. We don't know. They have a crowbar and can lift James Kahn, who I think is probably the tallest person in the movie. Oh, you know it.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Tallest guy. But he's flat. That's a good point. What do you mean? He's flat most of the movie. That's true. Which measurement are we going on here? I think he many of you had small tits.
Starting point is 00:20:57 In fact, he's longest guy. I don't think he stands. the entire movie except for when he gets into his car. New Sting, longest guy. Longest guy. Old whitest guy. Flatest guy.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Flatest guy. Highest guy. A lot of guys out there. The world is full of guys. So he was rescued by Kathy Bates. His number one. fan.
Starting point is 00:21:33 She, like, set him up. So she's a nurse. So she set him up, like, with splints in a little bed. And she's like, the phone lines are down. The roads are out. But as soon as they are, we're going to get you to a hospital. And so, yeah, they show you his legs are so disgusting. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And when you see the bottom of the feet, too, later on, you're like, ugh. As we mentioned, his agent hasn't heard from him. Looking everywhere for him. she calls the one little sheriff in this old Denver town. He's a little old man. He does like every job in the town. Sheriff Buster. Sheriff Buster.
Starting point is 00:22:11 He's amazing. He's amazing. He's amazing. He's amazing. This is such a Stephen King ass guy. Yes. It almost feels like he's got the shining the way his intuition just kicks in. Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:24 The detective stuff in this movie, you know, a lot of coincidences lead to him solving the case. Yeah. But what were you going to say, Jordan? It could be the shot. Oh, I was going to say he has the only hat in the movie. I don't know if it's the worst hat. No, not bad hat. This guy looks fucking great.
Starting point is 00:22:39 He has these big sweaters on, these big puffy sweaters, this cowboy hat. He looks like a guy you would see in Silver Lake. And he's like a hot dad. And then someone's like, you know, he's in the national. Like just what this guy is dressed like. I think he's supposed to look corny. He looks awesome. I don't think he's supposed to look corny.
Starting point is 00:22:56 I think he's supposed to look like the kind of a, like a representation of an old cowboy kind of archetype where you like him. You like him, you trust him immediately. He's wearing a shearling, like suede jacket in the winter and the hat. But my favorite thing was he had the like
Starting point is 00:23:13 pistol belt on top of another belt. Yeah. So he had like that cowboy kind of double pistol belt. So fucking cool. But then the other, my dad and I were talking about his shirt. He's got this pinstripe, navy blue Western shirt,
Starting point is 00:23:29 with pearl buttons and it's like, I need that shirt. We were taking pictures of it like, we're going to find that fucking shirt. Yeah. We're going to find it. He's drippy for a small town sheriff. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Yeah. The guy is dripping. And his character in general, I think, is very Stephen King. This is going to be one of maybe a couple of times where I say, as someone who read the book. No big deal. This is a good perspective. I'm curious, actually.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I remember this character, being a state trooper much it felt much less pertinent much less like this sort of like third person narration thing like in this
Starting point is 00:24:10 it's you get a lot of a lot of scenes where he's putting the pieces together I feel like in the book this just kind of serves as someone who essentially exists just to die and make you feel even more miserable it
Starting point is 00:24:26 I was so shocked and bummed. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why I was shocked. I don't know why. Well, I mean, it is shocking because, and they spend a good portion of his scenes. Falling in love with him. Yeah, making him someone that you like
Starting point is 00:24:42 and someone who you think this is his only hope. Because after he dies, you're like, oh, fuck. Yeah. My mom and I was the guy who's going to save him. Yeah. Yeah, but my mom and I looked at each other, I was like, I feel so bad for his bitch wife. She was like, me too.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I did love that I think he and his wife have like chemistry I think they have like hot chemistry Yeah I know I think that they And that's why I felt so bad Because I was like he You know he kind of is bickering with her all the time But it's so sweet
Starting point is 00:25:13 And I was like we just got to love a couple And it's old man And then you just blow a whole chunk out of him In front of me Yeah So Kathy Bates She's James Conn's biggest fan Has all the books
Starting point is 00:25:26 Has a little shrine to him She finds his manuscript in his little bag, asks if she can read it. That's nice. And she is her initial reaction, not a fan of the swearing. She's kind of a religious, a religious person. You know, as we mentioned, she says caca duty instead of swearing. And you call the poop. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Mr. Mann. Mr. Man. So she's not a fan of this new saltier book. So we kind of know she's got, okay, like she can kind of fly off the handle a little bit. It's where we start to see like the cracks. Maybe she's not just a nice lady. Yeah. They get to it pretty fast too.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I liked that. I like that it was like here's the immediate crack. You're like, oh, fuck. This is such an efficient movie. And it like in like a great way. It just moves so wonderfully. Like it doesn't overstay. It's welcome.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It's like, you know, kind of a, most of it takes place in this bedroom. Yeah. It could be a stage play easily. Totally. Oh, yeah. I saw, so I hadn't seen this movie, but I watched Castle Rock, the TV show. Oh, yeah. I watched a little bit of that.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I haven't seen it. And Lizzie Kaplan plays the young Amy Wilkes. Does she? Oh, cool. That's fine. And I was watching this and it was, I kind of had forgotten about it. And then I went, oh, my God, Lizzie Kaplan fucking nailed this shit. I want to go back and watch that now because that show is pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:26:54 I liked it. I got to check that out. It's good. It could get sad. you that. So she's mad about the swearing in the new book. But then she goes to get the final misery book. So we, the audience, know that he kills the main character in the book.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And she comes in, she's so excited. And then her, like, pig comes in. She has a pig named misery. It's a really cute pig. It's a crazy cute pig. Like a ginger pig. Yeah. And we, you know, we kind of get a little bit about it.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I was going to do that joke. I was like, is that mean? You guys could be more mean to me on the show, I'm going to. Because I'll do it back. Yeah. I don't want you to do it back. No, I like it. I'm going to pull a real Michelangelo on your ass on.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Oh, that's such a Michelangelo move. So we kind of learned that her husband left her. She kind of like mentions court a couple of times. So we're getting little pieces of the backstory. And then like in the middle of the fucking night. she comes in, it's clear that she's read the part where the main character dies and she goes, you dirty bird
Starting point is 00:28:04 and it is so funny and so terrifying. Kathy Bates won a fucking Oscar, give her another one. Just give her two awesome. It's such, it's one of the greatest screen performances, I think. She's scary, she's funny, she's weird,
Starting point is 00:28:21 you feel bad for her. I felt so bad for her. I really felt sympathetic towards her and my mom was like, really? Yeah. Yeah, no, I don't. She killed a bunch of babies. Yeah, my mom was like, fuck this bitch.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I don't like her. And I was like, but I, you know that she's just disturbed. She needs, she needs help, but also that her loneliness and isolation and stuff. I think we all know how that feels. It's so you have sympathy for lonely people. And not only that, but also very specifically, I feel like this type of character maybe wasn't super relatable, you know, back in 1990. But now we're all online people. We're all people who have done YouTube and done various things that have fandoms.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And this is a story about a really toxic parasocial relationship. And it's this type of person, this type of fan is recognizable to me. So watching her performance of it, you do feel kind of bad for her because she just clearly lives for this person. next, you know, post, essentially. What do you think about the theory that she caused the accident? Because some people think that she knew he was always in town at this place, riding. And so she could have done something to make the car do whatever or put something in the road. Or what was it?
Starting point is 00:29:45 Did he just lose control over the car? I think it was he just went out in a storm and lost control of the car. It was just the snow was too thick. You couldn't see in front of him. And he swirved. Let's do a 1965 Mustang. in the mountains. Like, what the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:30:01 You get it. Put some chains on that thing, you dumbass. Of course, this is going to happen to you. And, you know, the one copy of the book thing, that's like, come on, it's 1990. You can go to with kinkos. No, but I like the way they explain that. I like the way they explain that. And we're about to get to that after the scene in which she threatens him with a chair.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah. Do you think that maybe she had something to do with it? I mean, I think it's implied that it's possible. Yeah. Because her being there with this crowbar, everything, it's like it makes you think she specifically, you know, measured the distance between, I don't know, there's something about it that feels deliberate. I think it's totally possible. And because of that, I think it just makes it more interesting to wonder. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:45 So she is, she's very pissed about the misery thing. She brings in a like barbecue grill and some lighter fluid and like makes him burn the one copy. of his like bad book that had too much swearing. It is. This scene is totally sad. And I'm like, yeah, the guy's got notes. He's got an outline somewhere. He could probably, but like, it is.
Starting point is 00:31:07 You can kind of tell. It's like, I mean, she, he tries to convince her that, you know, I have copies of it. And she is like, she doesn't buy it. She doesn't buy it because she's such an obsessive fan. She's heard multiple interviews in which he says he doesn't make copies. He writes. one manuscript and then sends it out. Now that is of course ridiculous,
Starting point is 00:31:32 especially if he had a finished, it's crazy to go and write a finished book. But yeah, no still. In the snow in a 1965 Mustang. I mean, I still. In a little leather sashet. I'm able to suspend disbelief enough to believe that, yeah, he would be the type of guy who was just like,
Starting point is 00:31:52 no, I just spend, you know, a month in this little chalet, writing this thing and does the only copy I have. Stephen King might do this. A hundred percent. Stephen King is so freaking prolific. I bet he does this. I mean, I know that he's talked because I'm a big fan of his. And I mean, I would never run him off the road, but I would like it.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Would have you saw a maximum overdrive. Yeah, yeah, possibly. But like he is someone who writes so much that I think it's entirely possible that he's done. He's definitely lost whole manuscripts due to his computer crashing. And cocaine, probably. Probably cocaine as well, yes. I mean, listen, we all have problems, Emily, okay? And some of us get better.
Starting point is 00:32:36 But I think that they are comedy-related. That's right. That's right. In circumstance. Oh, dare you. But, yeah, to me, it's a believable thing. So watching him burn it in that scene is so effective. It is.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Because you really are like, no, he, it's. It's his baby, you know? He just wrote this goddamn. But also, I've never used a typewriter. Did you guys ever use a typewriter? When I was real young. Yeah. Did you play with typewriters, Jordan?
Starting point is 00:33:05 We had one in the house. And then, yeah, and I would like mess around on it, but I never did any like home or mine or anything. Because, you know, we know how to type on a computer, but it's essentially, it's a fucking keyboard. But he's just got two fingers tip-tapping at it. And I'm like, that must have taken him five years to, like, write this thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so she, okay, so her thing is like,
Starting point is 00:33:27 you're burning the bad book and you're going to write Misery's Return. So she gets him a typewriter with no N. And then for the whole movie, anytime you see the manuscript or a page he wrote, there's always a little space where the N should be. It's a great little detail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And a W, the N and the W, which are like both in it. Because I noticed that there was no W and stuff. Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah. Or it was just a typo. I don't know. So he starts kind of like sort of writing the book, but also he's like fucking around.
Starting point is 00:34:00 He's like hiding the pills she gives him. He's buying time. He's buying time. He gets a like Bobby pin and he kind of like when she leaves the house, he can kind of like break out and he knocks over. So she has a lot of like little collections. She has a little ceramic animal collection. He knocks over this penguin and puts it back.
Starting point is 00:34:19 That'll come back. So yeah. but he's like kind of doing the book but not really he gives her like some pages she doesn't like it she's like i did like how you named the grave digger after me great joke um that's the only thing she likes so he like you know gets back to work and like does something that she would like and he's kind of like placating her now and and he like he has her set up this whole dinner for them like this like romantic dinner kind of made me sad a little i know it's very like sad she like dresses up she makes meatloaf she's like a little spam in it also her food in this movie
Starting point is 00:34:58 pretty lit like i would like to eat her food yeah the breakfast that she had with the spam and everything gave it to him i was like all right not all bad i thought like they were doing this like 90s meme of like spam is the whole joke right and and he's supposed to be like he had a lot of spam jokes i love spam yeah i mean i'll be honest i never had spam um haven't no it just uh i do too many jokes about about it in the 90s. I was like, I guess it's bad. Did you know that they made a pumpkin spice spam a couple years ago?
Starting point is 00:35:28 They do novelty, like limited edition spam flavors. So I have a feeling when we're in person sometime, I might be bringing in some weird spam. Spam taste tests. It was like kind of a hat on a hat, you know? It's already spam. We're going to add another meme to that? Well, you can't, my legs work.
Starting point is 00:35:45 You can't control me. I will get the spam and you can't stop me. Okay, fair enough. But I wanted to say, her meatloaf recipe sounded lit. She was saying that she mixes in a little bit of spam with the ground beef. And he gives this look where he's just like,
Starting point is 00:35:58 and I'm like, what are we doing here? Like she made you meatloaf. You're going to be like, oh, I'm from New York. Here in New York, we don't eat no spam. Give me a baked ziti. Yeah. I mean, listen, I know that she's kidnapped you and taking you hostage, but like,
Starting point is 00:36:13 be a little bit more kind when it comes to the cooking. I know. He really was a cunt to the bitter end. But I loved it. I loved it. He was just, he'd still argue with her. And I'm like, why are you arguing with her? She loves you.
Starting point is 00:36:25 She's going to kill you. She loves you, bro. She's going to fucking kill you. Like, just be a little bit more chipper, buddy. But also, the Bobby Pin thing, as soon as I saw it, I knew it was going to happen. But it harkened back to this moment when I was in New York and I was madly in love with this guy. And it was kind of in that, you know, he was definitely dating other people, but I didn't want to admit it. to myself. And on his bedside table, there was a bobby pin. And in my brain, I started to try to
Starting point is 00:36:57 justify it. And I was like, maybe he's into picking locks or something. He could be, a lot of guys are into picking locks. Or some other bitch was here. Like, they're guys. We love, we love video games. Drinking beers and picking locks. Picking locks and doing machines. Yes, we love to do machines. Emily, was he the Jewish one? Oh, there's been a lot of those. Okay. But was he Jewish? I don't know, actually. Did he wear a yarmaca? No, that was the lawyer. Okay, because I'm not crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:26 The bobby pin could have been for the yarmica, but if he didn't have yarmica, then it's done. Oh my God, what have I done? I already killed him for allegedly cheating on me. See, there you go, Emily. Before you kill another man. No, I wish I hadn't hobbled him. Yeah, shouldn't hobbled him. And he will always walk and forever know the shame of cheating on me.
Starting point is 00:37:50 So he's trying to put his, the pills he's been saving into her wine, but she spills it. And then after this, it's so fucked. I know, just like so dramatic her spilling this wine. It's so heartbreaking. Part of me thought did she know it because she seemed to know things before she told him. Yeah, that he like wasn't telling him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And she was like, I knew you escaped two times before. I'm like, oh, fuck, how long has she known about the penguin? Yeah. So she spills the wine and he just like resigns himself to like finishing the book. but also he's doing like little exercises with the typewriter. We can see him doing like little, you know, like keeping up his strength with the typewriter. I should do something like that. Yeah, lift a typewriter.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I should just lift something. It's been a long holiday season. Yeah. Find something. Tell me about it. Just find something and lift it. So he gets out again and he sees her like scrapbook. And she has all these newspaper articles of all these like mysterious baby deaths at the
Starting point is 00:38:50 hospital where she works. And it's a great little detail, the fucking art direction on this scrapbook. So we see these newspaper articles about these very grim deaths and they're just next to pictures of her pig. Her pig. Her pig is in the scrapbook. It's so, so like darkly funny. But why do you think she collects, so I think that there's a level of she doesn't have
Starting point is 00:39:13 happy memories. So these are the only history to herself that she's got documented or she likes the idea of being notorious or having notoriety. So it's like her wanting to be involved with this, you know, author and be like, I'm the reason why this was brought back or whatever. There's something about just having her name in the paper that I think she likes, even if it is embarrassing and awful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I don't know. Like, why would you keep a scrapbook like that? That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, so there's the movie reason, right, where they're just like, this is a way of doing exposition for you. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:46 But then there's also the, she is a. a psychopath. So she probably, like for her, you know, likes to read about herself and how she got away with it, essentially. And I think because she's religious, she feels like God wants her to do these impulsive things that she's compelled to do. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:06 So she's keeping, like, I was misunderstood only God can judge me or whatever. I did all these things for a reason or whatever. Maybe that's what it is. She's so interesting psychosis-wise. Totally. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so she has, we see that she has, she, like, has shown him a little gun. She's like, he has two bullets, one for you and one for me.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Cute gun. If I had a gun, I'd want that gun. It's a very nice gun. Oh, also very funny detail in her scrapbook. There's an elect Nixon banner. So she's a Republican. Yeah, yeah. So you're like, oh, wait, maybe she is bad.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Like all of the other context clues. I think she is bad. Well, yeah, this makes you wonder, so this is set in the 90s. I know it came out in 1990, but is it, I mean, it's just that car is so insane. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's set in like, yeah, the 90s, 80s. Yeah, yeah. So she, she found the penguin. She found the penguin facing the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And so she, like, gives him, like, a dockout injection. And then when he wakes up, his feet are bound. There's a, like, a log between his ankles. She tells a story about, like, hobbling mine workers. And she breaks his ankles with a sledgehammer. It's one of the most fucking terrifying movie scenes ever. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:22 The practical effects in that were pretty remarkable. And I like that they only show one ankle. You don't need to see it a second time. The audio is enough. So this is part two of me being the guy who read the book. I love this. Please tell us everything. How'd you go down in the book?
Starting point is 00:41:41 In the book, she cuts one of his legs off with an axe and cauterizes. it by making the axe real hot. And so, yeah, in the book, she is much more sadistic to him. Like, she's doing a lot of, like, humiliation of him. Like what? Making him drink, like, mop water and shit like that. Like, just, and doing it in a way not to be like, yeah, I'm bad, but just in a way where it's
Starting point is 00:42:13 like, I have to please the psychopath. So I just have to smile and do the things that you want. she's much scarier on the page, but I will say, again, to Rob Reiner's credit, just having both of his legs broken is so much more effective as, like, visually, because it is, like, practical effects-wise, so disgusting to watch his, like, legs get broken.
Starting point is 00:42:42 If they were cut off, like, we've seen slasher movies, you've seen gore movies, like a lot of times the blood kind of takes you out of it. You're a little bit like, okay, I'm watching a horror film. And this movie, there's very little blood, but watching someone's legs get broken is way scarier than blood. And I'd say that most of the blood is her blood by the outfit. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:43:08 The other thing I was thinking, though, is I think the only way I would finish a script is if somebody rubbed me. I thought I can't do it. I can't do it. Yeah, I know. We all kind of wish we had a, I don't know, some sort of Anne Wilkes life coach service. Just break our fucking way. My Andy Wilkes. Yeah, maybe she had a brother.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Oh, by the way, our friend Zach from CZ's World, he has two videos that I'm going to watch tonight, the complete history of Annie Wilkes. Oh, cool. And the complete history of the author, Shelburne. or whatever his name was. So you can watch, he breaks down a timeline, so he'll do the Castle Rock and the book. Oh, cool. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:43:55 So that's how you get the extra materials through the show Castle Rock. And the books and everything. So. I got to watch this. I know. We love him. Hopefully he'll come back.
Starting point is 00:44:05 So, yeah, that was the big end of Act 2. We're almost at the finale of Misery. And we're going to talk about it when we come back. We're back. We're back. It's free with ads. We are talking about misery. So, you know, good old Paul Sheldon had his legs broke by his head hammer.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Good old Paul. Good old Paul. But the sheriff, he has put together a series of ludicrous clues to start with seeing a branch broken on the road. We haven't really talked about the investigation that much. It's a little like thing they keep coming back to. A lot of cute banter with him and his wife who's real horny for him, like Peg Bundy style. And he's just like, I got a salt. the case.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah. Oh yes, she put her hand on his leg and he didn't like it. Yeah. Yeah, there's a bunch of like really cute,
Starting point is 00:45:15 uh, I don't know, contentiousness between them that I, it really is fun to watch. And you could, it seems like they like each other. You know, it's not like they're fighting
Starting point is 00:45:23 because they don't like each other. But he says like horrible things to her, but you can tell it's out of love. What do you mean? What does he say? Uh, yeah. I never fuck that pussy.
Starting point is 00:45:33 It's too dry. I don't know. She even though, this is set in Denver. I have the main accent because I'm a Stephen King guy. Yeah, but it's set in Colorado. I found that to be kind of interesting because most of Stephen King's stuff is in New England. Yeah, and Maine and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:45:48 But occasionally he goes around. I mean, you know. Where's the Shining Hotel? Is that? Colorado, I think. Yeah. Wow. Oh, this is the same.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Ooh. Yeah. And then, you know, then you've got a bunch of Ohio stuff with the Mr. Mercedes series. And then, of course, you know, you've got the, what is it, Atlanta? with the outsider anyways guys I read a lot of Stevie King apparently oh I love the outsider by the way
Starting point is 00:46:14 to me best TV adaptation but let's move on we're talking about misery so the sheriff he figures it out there's a branch he finds a like newspaper article where Annie quotes one of his books and he's been reading all the books those are cute scenes
Starting point is 00:46:32 so he kind of like suspects Annie she's like the town psycho And she gets into a fight with people, you poop. Yeah, she's like yelling at people at the corner store. And he goes to her house and he's like, she's offering him Coco being cute. She kind of, she's like, oh, well, I'm writing a book to like explain why she has the typewriter. Which was smart, actually. So, and we know she has this, we know, we've seen the little gun.
Starting point is 00:46:56 We've seen the little like, you know. Pistol. Yeah, pistol. But he's looking in the basement. And she just blows a hole in him with a shot. Shotgun we haven't seen. I know. Remember he was listening to the song at the beginning?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah, that's right. It was Chekhov's shotgun song. But no actual shotgun. Chekhov's Motown hit. Yeah. So yeah, very shocking and brutal and kind of weirdly funny. It was so shocking and brutal. But it was just, it made me laugh because I had just got done, like, loving his wife and everything.
Starting point is 00:47:33 And there was something this like. feeling of safety with his story. Yeah. Yeah. Where you were just like, this is the guy who's going to solve the whole problem and then he'll be written into a book or something. Yeah. I had a false security. He surely won't have a hole blown in him. Yeah. Yeah. I just went, oh, I'm going to have a false. I mean, I can't believe they, they sucked me in. I should have known better. It's a horror movie, dude. Yeah. And this movie does that so many times that it's like, I think what makes it such a good movie is you think, oh, he's got this plan. with the goddamn, you know, he's going to put the drugs in the thing. That fails. You've got this sheriff who seems cool and nice and we've learned about his family. And that fails. It's like it just, at this point in the movie, you are so low.
Starting point is 00:48:20 You were like, he's not getting out of this. But I also want to talk about his survival instincts are not awesome in the beginning. Yeah, clearly. You have one arm that functions, okay? Yeah, stab, stab. So you can drag your ass out of that room when she's out of the house for like, I don't know, 15 minutes. Yep. And then what, bitch?
Starting point is 00:48:44 Then what? You don't have a car. You don't, there's no one for miles around. It's like just sit tight, manipulate the shit out of this person, heal your stuff, play it safe. But he was just all willy-nilly getting bobby pins doing all this and knocking over penguins, dumbass. Like stay in the bed for a while. Yeah. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:03 recover for a bit and then also, you know, placate this insane person until the time is right. And then stab, stab. Yeah, because at least she's Christian. You can appeal to that bullshit. You could have been like, I would love to sleep with you, but the Lord. The Lord. And then I lust for you so much, but the Lord. Jesus and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:49:28 So he. You can play that tune until the pigs come home, baby. So the sheriff is dead. Paul was able to get a like can of lighter fluid and hide it hide it from her. Yeah. He's kind of like... He's stuff so much shit into these sweatpants.
Starting point is 00:49:42 He really does. Yeah, he's always shoving shit in his sweatpants. Speaking of shit, how was he going to the bathroom? We get one pee scene where she like, she like collects his pee, but we do not see a lot of shit wiping. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:49:56 There could be more shit wiping in this movie. Because she's going to have to get in there because that's the thing. I think he was probably being manhandled a little more than that movie, You know. Oh yeah. There's probably a lot of shit wiping on the cutting.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Yeah. Is that in the book? Yeah. I believe shit wiping's in the book. I believe the shit wiping. There's, I also the, I believe there's punishments
Starting point is 00:50:14 letting him sit and shit from what I vaguely remember. Oh my God. Yeah. I just remember in the book, it was just like, oh, it really is like a worse nurse ratchet type thing. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I could be wrong. I'd have to reread it. Yeah, I want to read. So she's, so she's like ready to kill him and herself. She's like, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I'm going to, because she kind of knows that somebody who's going to come looking for the cop. So he's like, I got to finish the book, and then we'll read the book, and then we'll kill ourselves. So he finishes the book, but he has the lighter fluid, and he makes her bring the cigarette and the match because that's his,
Starting point is 00:50:52 that's his, that's his, what do you call it? Tradition. There you go. Yeah. And so he has this, he's got the lighter fluid. He's got the match. So he has the final, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:02 the final manuscript. of the misery book. And she's like, he's like, oh, I'm going to reveal all these secrets. Who's her father? Who does she end up with? And then he burns it in front of her. And as she's like trying to save it,
Starting point is 00:51:13 he brains her with the typewriter. There's this whole like fucking psychotic fight where they're beating the shit out of each other. Amazing fight. He's like thumb in her eyes. I know. It's like so brutal. And then he finally.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Good choreography. Great choreography. Yeah. Amazing. I know. So good. This fucking movie. He's a genius.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And then he finally hits her with a picture. statue and she dies. That shit is so ridiculous. And we get a little kind of afterwards 18 months later. He's walking with the cane. He finished his his passion project. But he still sees like visions of her. So there's like a waitress in the restaurant who like looks like Kathy Bates. And so you know we kind of like know that he will be forever haunted by the woman who made him eat spam. But there is kind of a little sweetness that I kind of enjoyed in an odd way where he's just like in a way she helped me
Starting point is 00:52:08 to find my like get my creative spark back and I'm like she's somewhere beyond the grave in hell going I knew it I knew it you poop I think it was right sure I treated you a little
Starting point is 00:52:22 oogie oogie oh what the fuck with oogie I know all her like expressions are so remember when she's trying to bust his head through the window she finally swears Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's a lying cock sucker.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah. Really shocking. They save it. They save her swearing until a great moment. Yes. But also fabulous swearing. Yeah. That's how you do it, girl.
Starting point is 00:52:43 That's how you do it. It is. Hey, well, that's misery. We're going to say what we thought about it, but first we got to do the Hunk Watch. It's Hunk Watch. My Hunk Watch is my meeting the first ever co-hunk watch. It is the sheriff and his wife.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Who are? Yeah. Very hot for each other. They both look great. You know, relationship goals, can I say? Yeah. Anybody else? Any thoughts?
Starting point is 00:53:14 I mean, Khan is like pretty sexy in this movie, which... He's one of those guys that, you know, elf was kind of the first memorable movie. I remember seeing him in. To a generation, he's like elf's dad. Elf's mean dad. And I didn't see the godf, father. I hadn't
Starting point is 00:53:32 like seen it. Oh yeah, you watched it on this podcast for the first time. Yeah, exactly. So this movie is like,
Starting point is 00:53:38 I'm like, oh, you can get it. I don't know. And also just like the physical performance, he wears a flannel very well. He does. And,
Starting point is 00:53:46 but he doesn't wear a shearling jacket the way that our sheriff does. Yeah. So that is the hunk all the way. My hunk, I'm going for it. And he wilks.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Yeah. I was thinking, Misery the pig, but Annie Wilkes. And I'll tell you. There's some times when she looks real hot in this. I know. I said this. She looks beautiful.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah. Like they try to do. Ethereal. They make her frumpy. They make her, you know, plain Jane. Because the contrast between that and psychopathy is really awesome and fun. But there are moments where I'm like, you know, young Kathy Bates for sure was, she's kind of a snack.
Starting point is 00:54:29 And just a character-wise. this Annie Wilkes, who's a lot more pleasant than book Annie Wilkes, there is something about her where you're like, I would be nice to have like a girlfriend who like encourage you to write more. You know, who like really took it upon themselves. Yeah. And not only that, but also really enjoyed everything that you made. Well, not everything.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Look, I love my wife. But if she could just enjoy what I do, I think I could love her even more. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? I know. Well, I don't know what it's like. I've never been married and I probably never will be.
Starting point is 00:55:13 But I... I think you'll someday find your own... And then I'm just going to find a guy in a ditch and then I'm going to strap him to a bed and that'll be the thing. That is honestly... Goals. I don't need a ring. I don't need no ring.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I just need a sledgehammer. Yeah. Pry it off them. Yeah. Yeah. Some syringes full of knockout drugs. Yeah, a little pistol. A little pistol.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Little pistol. A little pistol. All right. So we are going to rank misery. When we come back. We're back. It's free with ads. We are going to rank misery on a scale of one to ten. Super loud commercials.
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Starting point is 00:57:11 Rank it, please. Okay. So I was caught off guard by how gripping this movie was. and what a pleasant watch it is, like somehow. It's funny. I laughed so. I've seen this movie 40 times and I was yucking it up. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I mean, it sounds, it's so grim, but like it's, yeah. Yeah, and I think that's the direction is impeccable. The performances, it's because it is kind of like a bottle movie. You're mostly in one small space. So it really, you need the actors to carry the whole thing. And they did. It's perfect. I think this is a 10 for me.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah. Like I'm, I want to watch it again. Yeah. Which I didn't think I was going to want to watch it at all. Sometimes you watch movies that are, everyone knows it's great. They say it's great. And then you watch Savy Private Ryan and you're like, good, I got that over with. Or Dunkirk.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And you're like, fuck me. Or Godfather, too. You didn't like Godfather too. Yeah, I didn't. And so, but they're great movies. And you could tell why people, like, why they are great movies. But this movie is great because it's. enjoyable from top to bottom.
Starting point is 00:58:20 It's brutal as fuck and really screwed up, but it's just, how do you make this psychopath likable somehow? I just don't know how she does it. And props to Stephen King, props to Rob Reiner, Kathy Bates, and the guy in the bed. Guy in the bed. Matt, what you think?
Starting point is 00:58:36 I'm also giving this a tippy 10. I think it is... Oh, yeah, tipy 10. Yeah, yeah. I think it's tippy 10. This might be... What? I just realized this is... Is this your... are my first tippy tens of 2026.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Oh, there you go. I love that. Is it the first? Is it across the board? Let's see. I don't know. I mean, maybe we might be tippy 10 twins or are we tippy 10 triplets? We'll find out.
Starting point is 00:59:04 But I just want to say, it is a wonderful movie. It's one of my favorite adaptations. I think like Green Miles Shawshank Redemption are great. This, I think, honestly, I think it beats both of them. in my personal opinion, it's just I can watch Shawshank Redemption whenever. This movie is really, for Stephen King, who is a horror writer. Yeah. This is his scariest movie.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I think it's scarier than The Shining. And people can be mad at me about that. That's fine. Also, I relate super hard. As someone who also loves George R.R. Martin, I relate to Annie Wilkes. I want. Write the book. I'll make you soup.
Starting point is 00:59:49 So badly do I want to break his legs and make him finish the series. And then I want to find the writing staff of the HBO show, break their legs and make them rewrite just like he had to rewrite misery. I want them to rewrite the last two seasons of Game of Thrones. That's all. Honestly, this is not a bad pitch for a reboot, Matt. Honestly. So yeah, those are my thoughts. Jordan?
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yes. Listen, it's tippy tin triplets. It's so fucking easy. This is an easy 10. I love this movie. I love it. I love it. Yeah, it's so great.
Starting point is 01:00:27 It's everything we said. It's scary. It's funny. This is so exciting. Some of the most wonderful acting ever committed to film. No kidding. Yeah. And again, it's crazy entertaining.
Starting point is 01:00:36 It does not feel like homework. Nope. Yeah, so definitely if you're going back and looking at the Rob Reiner filmography, which you absolutely should. Oh my God. What a genius. Cannot be said enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Definitely watch this movie because, yeah, it's fantastic. And definitely when you just think that it was, you know, within a couple of years of when Harry met Sally, it's just so wild to think about him pivoting this hard. I just want to imagine. I wonder if there's footage of him directing this movie because I bet, because he's such a jovial guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I wonder if it's like, all right. So you're going to fuck up his ankles. And then, you know, but in a fun way. Yeah. So then you're going to. He was for sure cracking up. You can tell this movie is made. With love.
Starting point is 01:01:20 With love and with just a bit of a sense of humor because it knows it's part of what makes it so scary is how silly it is. Yeah. And so you can tell he was really the perfect director to do it. Perfect. It's true. Yeah. All right. That's misery.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Let's do a little plug-in. Emily, got me there? Well, Flemgim's Valentine's season is upon y'all. Some say. So please check out my Flemgems Etsy store. We'll provide a link under the episode like we usually do. But you can just go on my Instagram too if you don't already follow me. It's M-E-M-F-L-E-M-I-L-Y.
Starting point is 01:02:05 That's my Instagram handle. Hell yeah, hell yeah. Matt, Gag. Yeah, please. If you are in the wonderful city of Pasadena, you should come out on Saturday, January 24th to see some stand-up comedy at the Ice House with me and my wife, a show called New World Disorder.
Starting point is 01:02:26 The tickets will be available in the bio. Check out the description. All right. I want to say I have been, from time to time, I go on the great NPR show Pop Culture Happy Hour. They are nice enough to have me on that show, from time to time. It's so much fun.
Starting point is 01:02:42 You talk about a different pop culture topic with a bunch of cool, fun people. So, you know, in general, check out that show, but also I did their To Be recommendation show. They did a whole episode on To Be. So relevant to this program, definitely check out that show. Did you plug us? I did plug.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I plugged. Thank you. Thank you. Good man. Good man. Yes. Yeah, and maybe a little hint in there as to something we might be doing in a future episode.
Starting point is 01:03:10 I will be at Pasadena Comic-Con on January 25th. It's a one-day con over there at the Pasadena Convention Center. It's going to be a lot of fun. You can come see me, get some books signed, and then get a signature from Bulk and Skull from Power Rangers. No, are you fucking kidding me? Yeah. Jordan, stop it.
Starting point is 01:03:32 They are. They are. They're going to be there. Oh, can you get, do I have to. Get them to come on the pause. No, no, could I, wait. If I go. can you tell me where they are and then I'll stock them and break their legs?
Starting point is 01:03:43 Yeah, break their legs. I like it. Oh my God. Jordan, I'm so excited for you. Me too. I'll try and track down Balkan Skull. I'm sure they charge for photos, but I'll see what I can do. Or get them to just say a message to me.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I'll see what I can do. I'll look for them. January 25th, Pasadena Convention Center. Come meet me. Come meet Balkan skull. I love that. You can spend a whole weekend in Pasadenaena. Fly out to Pasadena on the 24.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Okay, this is great. Get yourself a nice room at the Hampton Inn. Yeah, go to the Hampton Inn. On Saturday night, come see me and my wife at the Ice House. And then on Sunday, go to a Pasadena Comic Con and hang out with Jordan. And I will, yeah, and if you go into a bar around there, I'll probably be drunk in there. So just go in and say hi to me. There you go.
Starting point is 01:04:38 You can see all three of them. of us, the beautiful city of Pasadena. And yeah, I have a comic book miniseries coming out very soon. Predator Bloodshed from the good folks at Marvel Comics. I'm getting some of the Rory Coleman art back. It is looking gorgeous. And I just realized I've got a little misery reference in it. So something I didn't know until I rewatch this movie.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I'm like, oh, yeah, this is a little bit of a misery reference. So check out this predator romp. Oh, damn it. You're not going to tell us what it is? No, I like that. You got to read it. You got to read it. You got to read it to find out.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Damn, that's a good plug, George. That is a great. That's a great. Predator Bloodshed coming out. February 25th, you can go to bit. Dot L.Y slash cool fight and pre-order signed copies in the mail or get it at your local comic book store. Predator Bloodshed. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Tune in next week when it's going to be. Okay. It's our 100th episode. Woo! We've done a hundred fucking episodes of this shit. I believe it. We're here. We made it.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And listen, okay, we discourage people from bombarding us with recommendations. You know, we want to keep the, you know, listener picks special. We don't just like want you to spam us with recommendations. But there's something we notice coming up over and over and over again. There's one movie that comes up more than any others. Well, it's two movies. One, tremors, which we've already done. We did it.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Go back. There's a tremorish episode. telling us to do tremors, we've done it. I don't know why you're mad about it too. Even if we hadn't done it. Don't email us mad. Don't, yes. You toxic tremors fans.
Starting point is 01:06:20 So there's that. But the other movie that comes up time and time again is the 2008 musical horror movie, repo the genetic opera featuring Paris Hilton and Giles from Buffy. So our 100th episode will be on repo, the genetic opera. Coming soon to your feed. Here you go, you fucking sickos. Yeah, you piggies, you won. You won this time.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Oink, oik, oik. Now get back to yelling about tremors. We love you. We'll see you next week. Maximum Fun. A worker-owned network. Of artists-owned shows. Supported.
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