Free With Ads - Predator

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

This week we watched the movie that started it all. And by "it" I mean "movies with the Predator in it." That's right, we're talking Predator (1987), starring a villain so iconic that Arnold Schwarzenegger is literally only in one of these movies and it's still a successful franchise.  Tune in next week when our movie will be... Harry and the Hendersons ----- Come to the Ice House in Pasadena on May 21st to see Matt Lieb do stand up. Tickets here!  You should buy Predator: Bloodshed and do so at Bookshop.org! The Predator: Bloodshed collection is coming out on Nov 24th. Be sure to pre-order it here at Bookshop.org. See Jordan at these events near you! May 29-31 GalaxyCon in Nashville June 6-7 Toronto Art Festival Help support this show and unlock bonus content! Become a member at https://maximumfun.org/joinfreewithads

This is free with ads, the podcast that asked the question, why pay Netflix nine bucks a month to watch Arnold in some prestige TV series when you could go online for free and watch him how he was meant to be seen? Shirtless, sweatier than anyone has ever been, and yelling more catchphrases than Austin Powers at a Borat contest. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is Predator, the 1987 action-sci-fi classic

that gave us such classic lines as, get to the chopper and that alien would be hot if he just left a mask on. With us today, filling in for the super producer, Matt Lieb, is a man we call the sexual Tyrannosaurus, Daniel, hi, Daniel. Hey, all right. I don't have any drops, but, you know, Matt can add him in post. Matt'll add it in post. I don't want to.

Matt, we love you. Get well soon or have a good comedy show, whatever the reason. is that you're not here. You're not here to tell me, Matt, if I did a good Arnold impression, which I think I nailed it. It was very good. Thank you. Yeah, Dana Carvey level, I would say.

Oh, thank you. Well, before we talk about Predator, which is, as of this recording, streaming free with ads, we're going to talk about something else we saw for free on the internet this week. Okay, so I was reminded of an old favorite recently. I went to the movies and saw a trailer for the sequel to Free With Ads movie Practical Magic. I saw the trailer for Practical Magic 2. Emily, have you seen this trailer yet? I have.

I have seen the trailer. What did you think? Well, I think there's been a lot of articles kind of talking about how movies look a little sterile. Like it looks like hospital lighting in movies nowadays. A little bit, a little bit. As opposed to the 90s, which practical magic looked so rich and gorgeous. And this movie looks a little bit hospital. But of course I'm going to go see it.

I mean, I wouldn't miss it. So I'm excited, but I'm a little hesitant. The thing I noticed about the trailer was that they did that thing that trailers all basically have to do these days, which is have the slowed down version of the pop song. Yeah. This one, this really made me laugh. They did a slowed down version of, you put the lime in the coconut.

It's like, you put the lime in the coconut and drink them both up. They tom-wates it. They just did a Tom-waits. They kind of Tom-waited. It's either that or a children's choir singing it, right? Yeah, that's another option you can do.

You put a line in the coronavirus. And I think that this has been going on in movies for a long time, but I think it's been going on even longer with video game trailers. I think that this started in video game trailers because they do it more than movies. I think maybe the first one I remember was this game, Gears of War, that it has slowed down version of Mad World. and I think if we're pinpointing it, that kicked off the trend

and that's why every fucking trailer needs to do this. I think whatever the social network did that creep like slow down. That's the one I remember from movies anyway. They can be cool. They can be like effective. And anyway, so the lime and the coconut really, really tickled me

and it reminded me of maybe my favorite ever slowed down version of a song. This is done tongue in cheek But this is a video game called Straith that I have never played And this is what they did for their trailer I think this is I think this is 10 years old at this point But I it got me at the time still gets me now Okay

You play the trailer for Strafe I sure can How do you spell strafe Oh Let me know when you get it No way Oh my gosh. I'm watching the video as well, which is brutal. So that is, of course, Daniel, feel free to fade that out. That is, of course, Smash Mouth's All Star.

And what year was this made? I think this game is 2016. And yeah, it's a very like retro. Boy, it doesn't look like it. Yeah, it's a very retro looking video game. I think it's supposed to look like it was made in, you know, 1999 or whatever. these little goblins decapitating people to the slowed down strains of smashmouth's All-Star. I want to play the game now. We're going to have to put, we got to show people. If you got to go on YouTube, just go check it out because that video, there's like half of a head. Yeah. I think that they I think that, you know, like obviously they're kind of messing around with copyright stuff and it's already a little bit shady as it is. They should have decapitated Shrek there. I think that they really really missed an opportunity by not decapitating.

You know something weird, Jordan. That's so interesting. You brought this up. This is something I've pitched to a certain show. You and I are on, but I don't know if they're ever going to use it. There's, I looked up really weird video games,

and it was going to be like a real or fake. There's this video game called Shrek Hotel. Okay. I've not heard of Shrek Hotel. Sounds sexy. No, it's like, you're staying in a spooky hotel that I guess Shrek owns and Shrek is scary. Have you seen those clips where it's like Michael Jackson, like a scary Michael Jackson

is like terrifying people while they're playing a video game in a haunted house? Oh, you'll love those clips. But yeah, there's a spooky Shrek game called like Shrek Hotel that you should definitely watch videos of it. It's so weird. It's so definitely. Now I'm like, yeah, you could probably decapitate him in that game. And I think that's when you need a spooky.

version of All-Star. Yes, that is the one. Or the, there's other things, and I saw her face. No, I'm a believer. I cut off your face. Well, yeah, this is a beautiful segue from cutting off Shrek's head to a alien character who cuts off a lot of heads. I can't believe it.

We're going to talk about Predator, very excited about this. But yes, before we talk about Predator, we should let you know that this movie features suicide and self-harm. So if that's not something you want to hear us talk about, we're going to play some music and give you a chance to find another episode. Hey, we're back. It's Free With Ads. We're going to talk about Predator, 1987. A quick check-in.

If I'm remembering the Free With Ads lore correctly, Emily. when we watched Alien versus Predator, you told us that was the only movie from either of those franchises you had ever seen. Correct. Is that still the case? Is this the second movie

from these franchises that you've seen? Yeah. Okay, so like since then you hadn't watched Alien or aliens or anything else. I mean, I've definitely, they've been on in rooms I've been in and they are so scary that I like go, nope, no thanks.

Okay. And there's, I did watch a lot of the alien movie with Winona Ryder in it. Okay. Oh, Alien Resurrection. Yeah, where she throws the basketball backwards. I think that one I've watched quite a bit of, but I don't think it was enough to say I actually watched the movie. That is funny that the two you've seen are Alien versus Predator and Alien Resurrection. But yeah, I was, I'm really glad about the, um, the, the order.

of which I'm doing this, because I was watching it and thinking about the lore of Alien versus Predator, which we have understood is not canon necessarily for all the franchises. But there are a few things I can't wait to talk about because I can't quite remember if I'm right or not. So we're going to talk about the lore of Alien versus Predator versus the original Predator, and I want to talk about later. Okay. Cannot wait.

Cannot wait. Yes, very excited to talk about this. Yeah, let's kick it off. We open with a shot of a spaceship flying towards Earth. Something comes off that spaceship and plummets and plummets. And this is the only spaceship we're going to see for like an hour. Yes, a perfect time to go wee. I wish I could have seen the ship a little better.

I was like, because I'm always fascinated about spaceship design. Oh, yeah. Yeah, especially we just saw. Event Horizon last week, and I was like, these were kind of unremarkable, like, designs for, like, a spaceship. But I think, like, Star Trek is, I couldn't, I, and the Millennium Falcon, like, I want to see the spaceship design. And you couldn't, it was like a, like, blink and you miss it.

Spaceship. Yeah. I think this movie, it's amazing how, like, light this movie is on explaining anything. Like, oh, yeah. And that's kind of part of why I love it. Like, obviously, we've gotten so many sequels and books. books and comics that have kind of explained the lore. But this movie doesn't tell you shit.

And that's kind of part of, I don't know, I like that. I like, and I think that's part of why it captures people like it does, because, like, you fill in all those gaps. So, yeah, so we see that little bit of space stuff, and then we go to the hot South American jungle. Helicopters, they're landing, and out of these helicopters are getting streams of tough guys. Yeah, tough guys of every race. are jumping out of these helicopters.

I was thinking about this earlier that how, like, helicopters are so fucking loud. Like, how is that, like, a good, I know that that's how you, like, are able to drop people. You can't just drop people out of a jet, you know? Yeah. But I'm like, okay, why can't, like, we figure out a, is there a silent helicopter nowadays? Like, AI, figure that out. Like, figure out a silent helicopter. Figure out quieter helicopters.

Yeah. I know, but they're like, oh, we're doing drones. Issue in L.A. helicopters chasing people around. Oh, my God, that's for sure. Especially in my neighborhood, because shit goes down in my neighborhood. That's for damn sure. So we got these, we got, we got men a plenty hopping out of these helicopters. Now, there's one needle drop in this movie.

It's maybe one of my favorite needle drops in the history of movies. I wouldn't mind if at this point in the movie, when all the dudes are filing out of the helicopter they played, it's right in men. I feel like that. I would be okay with that. If someone wants to do a fan edit of that and put it on YouTube, I would enjoy that.

But yeah, we just got men by the bucket full, pouring out of these helicopters. And one of them, Arnold Schwarzenegger, puffing on a fucking cigar with a little bit of stubble. And we like him with a little bit of stubble because it was, what was the movie that we saw him with where he had to, like, go into a sports thing and fight people? Running Man.

Thank you. I can't believe you knew what I was talking about. Yeah, these two movies came out the same year. And, yeah, like Arnold has the little bit of stubble in both of them. I think he looks fucking great. Well, I mean, it is going to be a tough hunk watch this movie. My God. My God.

It is. crazy how hot i mean jesse i watched a documentary about um that came out in 2000 about this movie and they interviewed like you know the original cast and the filmmakers and boy jessie ventura is insufferable now as he um was then but he is a very interesting interview i guess he was uh in the marine corps yeah um so he was like taking this very seriously but his character is the most unsavory of characters. Yes, he sure is. Yes, fun to see him get a giant hole blown into him.

It is. So, yeah, Arnold's there. He's playing Dutch. He's fucking looking great with a little bit of stubble. And they're calling him and his team of dudes in for a mission. There's a cabinet minister that got lost in the jungle. Supposedly, this is what they're telling us. and who is the CIA contact there,

but Carl Weathers playing Dylan. Hell, yes. The greatest fucking greetings in the history of movies. Dylan, you son of a bitch. And then they- Which, oh, the meme. I didn't know about this meme until I watched it.

And I went, that's what this is from? Yes. So one of the great and enduring memes is when Arnold and Carl Weathers see each other, two men with a lot of history. They do a bro shake and then try and like out squeeze each other. They're like just flexing to see who's going to give up first. And so that is the meme of the two buff hands you see.

And it'll be like, for instance, it'll be like one of the hands will say free with ads. And then one of the hands will say flute teachers. And then in the middle they'll say talking about fingering. I mean, could this count as a fingering story? Fingering story. I think it could. Yes, these two men are. Oh, wait, no.

This is a fisting story. Oh, Matt Sting goes here. I don't want to. I don't know if this is going to work. I'm going to propose something. I am going to put that free with ads handshake meme on Reddit, R slash maximum fun. Free with ads meme contest. Use the predilead.

her handshake, make your best free with ads meme. We're going to declare a winner on a future episode. So go to R slash maximum fun to enter your meme. I love that, Jordan. That's such a sweet thing to do for them. Let's see. I don't know. Let's see.

Will people do it? I don't know. But you know, I think the reason why it's so iconic is like just that one image sums up their past with each other. Right. Like there is this competitive nature between them and this like, ooh, distrust. You immediately go, he likes him,

but then he goes, ooh, you've been, you haven't been working out as much. You've been a pencil pusher with the CIA. And you're like, oh, this guy's not to be trusted. All within like a single, like hand grab. It's so cool. Right. And I think, right, because this movie doesn't give you a lot of backstory,

but everything they do is fucking rich. And I think you're at- anyway. No, they just they just they just call each other sons of bitches and squeeze till one of them gives up. Yeah. And I think this this is something we talked about when we talked about Roadhouse when Patrick Swayze and Sam Elliott meet for the first time on camera, there is a very a very potent and very possible you know like storyline of maybe these guys were romantically involved. Like, it's there. There's like tons of baggage. Anyway, and as we will learn later, these guys are too...

Romantic and sexual can be two totally different things. It's true. It's true. If you are not chanting kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss during this movie, you have no pulse. You have no pulse. Which, um, I was, there's so many dudes in this movie, but aren't there two governors in this movie? There are, yes. Both Arnold and Jesse Ventura have been governors. I think at the time Jesse Ventura became governor, Carl Weathers did a thing on S&L where he's like, elect me as governor because I was in Predator. Honestly, that would have slapped. I'll vote for him. I don't care what weird views he has.

I mean, at this point, whatever. So yeah, so it's it's this tough talking, hard, sweating strike team going after this lost, you know, a dignitary. or whatever. Well, there's something that should be said. And like this is why I love this ensemble cast so much is because he, you shouldn't trust Mr. Weathers because CIA, blah, blah. But this crew, like Arnold's crew is these guys who they always work together. They're like a perfect team of like operatives or I don't even know what they come from.

They were soldiers, whatever, but they do jobs together as a unit. And he's like, I don't put my guys in situations that are like manipulative, covert, like, political bullshit. And Carl Weathers has assured him that this is just to get these two hostages. It's like, it's all in the up and up, right? So these dudes, like, know each other. You could see the teamwork when they go into the jungle together. It's so cool to watch them, like, work together. I don't know anything about military stuff.

I barely know anything about men and I feel like I learned something about male friendships and male like communication through this movie that I've never seen in a movie before but so it's it's important that you know these dudes are fucking real ones and they love each other. And they look out for each other and they put each other first

that's an important... And they're the best of the fucking best. They're the fucking best. Yeah, so you kind of, they get on a helicopter, you're kind of introduced to everybody Shane Black is there. Shane Black, very good writer-director who directed, I'll be diplomatic here.

No one's favorite predator sequel. A predator sequel, I don't think anybody would say is their favorite. Do you know why he's in this? I don't, other than he, no, tell me, please. So he didn't write the movie, but he was a writer and they needed someone on site in case things needed to be rewritten on site. Wow. So they decided to hire him as an actor and then he's,

because they filmed this literally like I, in this documentary, which I highly suggests, I'll ask Matt to put it in the show notes. They're literally, like the camera is on a hill. Almost everything that they shoot is on a slant. Like all the guys are just uphill or coming downhill.

Like it's mostly, there's no flat ground for the most part shooting this movie. And, um, Yeah, it's pretty fucking crazy. So they, and they're in the jungle. So this guy needed to be there on site to be like, ah, this isn't going to work. This camera is falling off of a ledge.

And they couldn't change anything about the trees and stuff because it's preserved. You can't be chopping down trees in this area. And it's protected. So you can't go in there chopping down trees. So it's like, fuck, we got to go shoot this somewhere else because it looks, you know, figure out new ways to do it. So that's why he's in the movie. That's wild. So yeah, same Black wrote Lethal Weapon and the last action hero, kiss, kiss, bang, bang, a good movie. Oh, my God. Really? Yeah, Iron Man 3, wrote and directed it. And yes, and then he wrote 2018's The Predator, which, you know, maybe not, maybe not people's favorite.

I think studio interference is why that wasn't good. Come on, you got to. Maybe we'll get to it. Maybe we'll get to it. Maybe we'll get to it. We will. We'll get to everything before we die. Everything that has predator in it. We will probably watch. We'll be in our deathbeds like in some hospital going, Predator 3D.

Sure. Predator meets frozen. Disney owns it all. By the way, they do. And here's my pitch. I've made this on other podcasts. Put Predator. in Disneyland.

He's a Disney princess. He can be stalking around Disneyland. You can have a ship full of skulls of other Disney characters that he has killed anyway. Well, honestly, he is. No one would be mad about that. No, everyone would like that. Also, he is a princess. As a pillow princess myself.

The predator basically just has all the gadgets. I'm not that impressed with the predator personally. I think the predator is a cheater. I think the predator does not deserve the right to kill the people that he killed because he couldn't survive his own bullshit. I'm not a fan of predator. I think predator is a weak little boy. Oh my gosh.

Harsh words for a famous monster. I think he's an asshole. Okay. Well, you know what? I think it's good that he killed everyone. There. We're the Arnold Schwarzenegger and Carl Weathers of this movie. We have different different viewpoints as to whether or not the predator should have killed everyone.

Anyway, so Shane Black is there. Very interesting about him rewriting stuff on set. That's a very cool factoid. He, his character is making big vagina jokes this whole time. And we got, who else do we got? We got Jesse Ventura. He's, you know, he's chewing, he's chewing tobacco. He's saying an F slur.

So, you know, that's not great. Which in the doc, they talked about how he's a great guy. He was good for, like, you know, authenticity about military stuff. But it took a lot of work to get him to seem like a real person. Did they succeed? I think they did. That's up to. I think they did.

I think that they, well, the person who really, like, carries this whole movie is Bill Duke. Like, Bill Duke is probably, like, this movie, I haven't seen a lot of his work, but I'm like, I need to see everything he's ever been in now. Because if it weren't for him, everyone would just be insane. Like, everyone would seem nuts. He grounds the whole thing. And him and Jesse Ventura's character have, like, kind of a bond with each other, which is

really cute. They, like, he shares his flask with them and stuff. And I'm like, I'm glad they paired them together. Right. Because you have the biggest. asshole and this really sweet guy who is constantly shaving despite having no hair on his face? Well, it's clearly like a nervous tick because his character is the most interesting. Like, you learn so much about him because of little details like that.

Like, he, he's got a, he's got a moral code that you've kind of just see the wheels turning and stuff in his head. His performance is truly Oscar worthy. I can't believe how good that performance. He's great. And he's the guy who like goes a little crazy at the end too. So he has to play that like I'm losing it. And yeah, Bill Bill Duke is great fucking legendary guy. Got his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame this year.

Oh, he does? Also directed a DMX video. Oh. I know. What a life. What a life on this dude. He apparently brought the shaving tick to the movie. Like that was his story.

Did he? I believe that. According to IMDB trivia, which I saw. IMDB trivia, never wrong. And we also get, we also get, Richard Chavez plays poncho. This, this, I, okay, I have a, I have a story about this dude. He's amazing. I wanted to bring this down.

It's upstairs. I have a signed headshot of this guy because when I did an event for Predator Bloodshed, the new Marvel comic series written by me in stores now, he showed up and brought headshots for everybody. He fucking sat at the comic book store and talked to everyone who came in and, like, told his story. He's a veteran. Like, I think a lot of these guys are veterans.

He talks about it, yeah. Yeah. And he, uh, and they like, I think discovered him doing a play with other veterans and, like, said, we want, you know, we want you to bring some authenticity. He's such a sweet guy. I think he just has a Google alert for Predator and shows up at stuff. And it's like, it, it fucking made my life. This guy is so cool and he's so great in this movie.

I really, really, really. love Richard Chavez, great dude. What day you gotta teach me what Google alerts mean? Does that mean if... I think if you wanted to see everything, every time someone mentioned Emily Fleming

online, you could set up a Google alert for yourself. And it would be really healthy to do that. Yes, and good, and you would not go insane. But here's what I'm worried about. Can people see if I Google them? I don't think so. God, I hope not. I don't know. I mean, if they have your

password to your email. Yeah, probably. Oh, shit. Yeah, no. I just wonder sometimes if, because like when I'm Googling certain people that I know sometimes that I'm like, oh, did they do something bad recently? I don't know. Should I unfriend them?

It's like, just good to check every couple months. It is. But then they'll like message me pretty quickly after and I'll go, huh. They could see that I was looking up. Oh. They were bad people. So I hope that's not true. Anyway, go ahead.

And also we should shout out. We should shout out Billy. We should shout out Billy, who's just a big, a big quiet dude with a giant knife who can track everybody. Fucking Billy rules. He rules. Anyway, just a- But speaking of problematic people, don't look into his past. Okay.

I won't. Good to know. Thank you. Great character, great character. Great performance. That's it. Thank you, Emily, for that information. The pilot of the helicopter is actually the predator.

Hold on, hold on, Daniel. According to I and D.B. Well, no, no. He's who played him. No, no, he's who picks them up, I think, when they, like, he picks Arnold up. Oh, okay. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. He's, like, super tall.

He's, like, over seven feet tall. Yes. Because I guess there's, like, a, legend that maybe our boy from Time Cop was... This is no legend, Emily. This is very true. For a couple of weeks on set, John Claude Van Dam played the Predator in a totally different suit,

and he was such an asshole that they fired him. Wow. And I don't know if that coincided with them redesigning the predator, but the suit they had him in looks really bad. It's like this bug face. It's like this praying mantis kind of thing. And it's like, there's no way we're talking about this movie now if that's, if that's the predator. Totally.

And it was, so the actor who they hired, they also redesigned the suit because it looks so stupid with the other one. And also, you barely get to see, and I love that about Predator that you, like the reveal of this villain, it's such a slow burn. And then when he takes that helmet off, you're like, what the fuck? and it has to be, it has to be good if you're going to wait that long. So they hired the guy who did Terminator stuff. So he's who did it. Stan Winston did the...

Yeah, so this actor is like huge. They wanted him to be like taller than Arnold so that he was like just, who can make Arnold Schwarzenegger look like little, you know? But he, and he was in that hot suit all the time and they were like, this poor miserable guy in this hot prosthetic suit in the jungle. Let's give him something and let him be on stage. Also, he is gorgeous.

The actual guy in the suit? Yeah. I've never seen the guy in the suit. Stunningly handsome and his voice is sexy. And I'm like, I need to look up if he's been in anything else. It's a crime that he's not the biggest movie star in the world. Like, honestly. But he's gigantic.

I was watching the documentary. There's a couple of documentaries. for Predator on YouTube that you can watch. And he's also in Harry and the Henderson's as... That's what they were saying. He'd just done Harry and the Henderson. Which, Jordan, put that on the list 100% like for us to watch because that movie scared the fucking diet, like daylight.

When John Lithgow tells him he has to go away and that he doesn't love him and that's, but he's doing it because he loves him. But no, it scared me as a kid. I like had to be... It's scary. He scared me so much that my dad had to put me in the car outside of the house where we were saying. We were like with family friends and I was screaming bloody murder because of this movie and couldn't calm down. So he put me in the car outside and closed the door and was like, he just watched me in the car and like went.

She's just going to sit. And they were like, did he crack a window? I'm like, it was winter. It's fine. Yeah. But like I'll never forget it. She's just in the car crying about Bigfoot. I know.

But that's so crazy that he did that movie and we should definitely watch that movie. But this guy's amazing. Like, I mean, he's a heart throb. I don't know. He died really young. He passed away at 35. No, he passed away. And 91 he passed away, yeah.

Emily, great news. Harry and the Henderson's currently on 2B. Oh, good. Anyway, so our boys, they get out of the helicopter. Oh, and then the needle drop here is. Long Tall Sally. They do Long Tall Sally. It's one of my favorite needle drops in all of movies.

I fucking love it. Wow. And yeah, they need, listen, yes. Do they need to add rain, it's rain and men to the beginning? Yes. But if they're going to have one, I just love it when it kicks in here. So yeah, so they're in a helicopter. They go to a very generic bad guy village, a real generic 80s bad guy village.

They just fucking blow the shit out of everybody. Yeah, just waste everybody And yeah, like Emily said, they're just like operating as a team. Everybody's like having each other's backs. Everybody's got a specialty. It's really like satisfying to watch. Super brutal too.

Oh my God. This movie is so like, it's like it starts. The first quarter of the movie is crazy violent. And I was like, how are we going to elevate past this? I don't know how they're going to do it. And they do. They find ways.

And yes, Arnold. throws a knife at a guy, and we get stick around. Stick around. Oh, my God. He got stick around, and then, like, there was somebody else who said something. It's dug in like an Alabama tick. Oh, yeah. There's so many good lines in this movie.

I was like, oh, my God, we need more southern sayings like that. Yeah. So, yeah. So they're fucking shit up. They find there's one, they're a single woman in the village, a single woman in the movie. This is Anna, and I believe she is wearing a bucket hat. I'm going to go ahead and call it the worst hat. The worst hat.

And you know why it's the worst hat? Because it doesn't say the worst hat on it. And you know where you can get a bucket hat that says the worst hat on it? Maxfundstore.com. Got in a plug. Get yourself some merch. Okay. Very smooth.

Thank you. Thank you. No problem. So yeah. So they kind of take her hostage and she, like, has some information about the predator that she'll kind of like drop later when she's not totally catatonic. But we learn that this cabinet minister totally fake. They were there to do some CIA shit for Carl Weathers who just like had this whole, was a lie.

Everything was a setup. They just needed these guys to go in. The hostages are dead dead. Yeah, they're very dead. They're dead dead. And then they just blow up this entire operation that's down there, which we don't even know what the hell's going on. But there's something about Russians in there?

Yeah, Russians at some point happen. Yeah, it's the 80s. It's the 80s. The Russians have to be at least lurking in the jungle somewhere. But it's the Russians in league with South America in some way. And I'm like, who cares? I don't need to know all of it. Broadly South America.

Yeah, yeah, it's pretty broad. But also one detail that one of the biggest scares that fucked me up at the beginning. I was like, there's not a lot of movies because I love horror and sci-fi that really disturbed me. But right before they get to the destination where they're going to try to save the hostages,

they've already ramped up their adrenaline because they saw a bunch of men hanging upside down skinned. Right. Yes. Very gory. And you're like, who the fuck would do this? And so they're like, oh, it's time to die. So they're like going to this place, not asking questions, assuming that all the people at, you who are holding these people hostage, that's what they do to people. So it's, you know, you assume that that's what war is. And then, well, I'm sure that, you know, whatever. But this is like, it's something

else. It's something else. Yeah. And so yeah, so you have, you have a bunch of fucked up shit going on. This has a line that I think is up there with pain don't hurt. Somebody tells Jesse Ventura, you're bleeding. And he says, I ain't got time to bleed. And then Richard Chavez just goes, oh, okay. Well, I thought, I got something. I was like, huh, I have time to bleed because time makes me bleed. I don't have a choice in the matter.

Is it that fun? I hate time. Time's the worst. time bad time time the ultimate monster they say my body is stuck to the moon um so so yeah so they learned that this whole thing was like a CIA like a CIA operative that they were tricked in or say a CIA op that they were they were tricked into doing um this is when kind of carl weathers and Arnold Schwarzenegger get in each other's faces and they have the like verbal version of them trying to flex each other out This is them kind of presenting two worldviews.

Carl Weathers says, fuck it, do anything you can to get ahead. No one else matters. The world is fucked up. And Arnold is like, no, you know, it's us. We have to stick together. We're here for each other. You know, it's people that matter. So it's this very like, they have two opposing philosophies and they're just trying to like flex each other out.

I fucking love that. And it's like, yeah. Yeah. And then the movie just like is action basically till the end. But I think you have this really interesting moment of like two dudes like who view the world very differently like budding heads. It's really cool. And then our boy Bill Duke like shows Carl Weathers' character how he feels about him. Yes.

With a scorpion. Like so there's this. So you're like, do they all know what just happened? Right. Well, Bill Duke knows. And so he like tells him to turn around. and pulls a knife up and you're like,

oh my God, he's just gonna kill Mr. Weathers here. And instead he stabs this scorpion and you're like, cool. Yeah, I love that part. But it still let him know.

It still let him know I know who the fuck you are, a motherfucker. And it was so cool. But also, I'm looking out for you. It's like I'm, you're not looking out for me but I'm gonna be the bigger man.

I'm gonna look out for you because that's my philosophy. Like, that's my world view. It's really great. But if I wanted to, I could fuck you up. Yeah, I could have not only stabbed you, but I could have just let the scorpion kill you. Yes.

Ooh, I didn't think about that way. Who's the predator, we asked. Yeah, when he squashed the scorpion underneath his boot, I immediately went, ooh, who's the predator, no? Right. Yes, I don't know. Is it the alien? I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

Big questions. Big questions asked in this film. So they're trapped, but also like, what's been killing people. So when Anne is trying to run away, Shane Black goes after her, and he's like attacking her and trying to like get her tied up again. And that's when our boy cloaked, the cloaked invisible predator kind of comes out of the jungle, kills the first dude, takes him away.

And then Jesse Ventura gets blown away. Jesse Ventura, cool MTV tank top. That was probably a very cool. I saw that. Probably a very cool reference at the time. Was it a tank top or? was it like a bag? I couldn't remember, but I was like... I believe it was a tank top. I could be wrong, though.

I wonder if MTV had like a tie-in kind of promotional thing because... One of our favorite movies, Godzilla 1999, MTV had a very like, you know, like, succubus, like relationship with that production. So I'm like, oh, I wonder if MTV was really engaged with Predator stuff and promoting it. I don't know. I know. You would think there would be I mean, again, not much music in this movie, but yeah, maybe there's a music video or something with, you know, guns and roses or something. Yeah, Brian Adams has to have a ballad on this soundtrack. Probably Brian Adams. He's just always got one. He's got one in the pocket all the time. You got it. Yeah, Brian Adams. The guy's got a ballad for everything.

Classic. So, Jesse Ventura, he gets blown away by the predators like a plasma gun. It cauterizes the wounds. And then so they, and they kind of. get the information from Anna, the jungle took him. That's what she keeps saying in Spanish. The jungle took him. And so they think there's somebody out there. And so the remaining dudes just line up and in a hilariously long scene, just fire every gun they have into the jungle.

It's so long. It's like a, it's like a, you know, family guy joke that goes on too long. But they did nick him. They did nick him. Yeah, they only nick the guy. And they got a little bit of glowing blood splattered on some things, which nobody seemed to notice, except for our girl who, like, smeared it on herself so she could, like, I guess go, ooh, that's interesting. I don't know why she did it, but I wish she would have shared it. The blood made out of K.Y. Jelly and the inside of a glow stick.

I believe that. I believe that 100%. They were, like, very scrappy. This production is scrappy as fuck. And I did, when I was watching it, it was just like there was somebody saying, if they taught you this in acting school, there'd be a lot more people quitting. Like being an actor. And I'm like, oh, hell yeah. I mean, I don't know. No, I mean, I think this was supposed to be just like a quick, low budget movie that like kind of came and went. But it's just like because of how fucking good it is, it just became this thing that we're still making sequels to. You know, it's, yeah.

Yeah, and all practical effects by that. Well, there is some digital effects because of the predator. I guess we can kind of, I'll put this detail in because we're going to get to it. But the predator has this invisibility kind of trick to it, which is why I think the predator is a princess and is a little rich debutante. I don't think that the predator is a warrior in any way. I think the predator is cheating the entire time and sucks ass. And if he had to like fight to the death with these dudes without a weapon, him versus all of them. Oh, dead.

Dead 100 times. But yeah, invisibility cloak hangs out in the trees. Again, princess. But yeah, so you'll see like a little warp kind of liquid vibe of like, oh, it's like he does. It's like he's a ghost almost. So that's like the most, I think, digital effects they do. Everything is on location. Like there aren't green screens.

It is truly amazing movie. This is amazing movie making. I think this movie is so fucking cool. AI could never. AI could never. And I love how the Predator is a guy in a suit. And like the Predator is still a guy in a suit. Like the Predator Badlands that came out last year,

which fucking rules. It's really great. I need to see all of these. It's really, really good. They have digital stuff for like his face, but it's still a fucking guy in a suit. And I think I've seen him in some behind the scene stuff pretty hot. So they always find a hot guy. I mean, the only big, tall, weird guy in a suit who's not totally hot is Peter Mayhew.

But I do have his autograph. Chewbacca. I have Chewbacca's autograph. Poor guy. Have you told this story? Have you told the story of how you got Chewbacca's autograph? Oh, okay, I'll tell the story. Maybe he is hot, but I was 12 when I got the autograph, so I probably thought, oh, geez, seven-foot-three guy.

I don't like that. And he's old. But maybe now I'd look back and go, hello. Okay. When I was, I think 11, that was when the Star Wars, like a new hope to Return of the Jedi were re-released in theaters. Oh, yeah. In preparation for the prequels. Right.

And my dad and all the dads on my block where I grew up on the street, they love Star Wars. So like me and a couple of friends went to the Rivergate Mall in Nashville, Tennessee, which RIP to the Rivergate Mall. They had a comic shop and there was going to be a signing with the guy who was in the Boba Fett costume. Oh, cool. He was a British guy and he was very cranky and funny and I loved him. but and then the gentleman in the R2D2 suit who was you know moving that thing around and then Peter Mayhew and when he walked in we were in line forever but I didn't care we were having so much fun there was a lady in a Zena warrior princess costume for some reason I was like that doesn't

fit what are we doing I mean it fit her great but it didn't fit into the context of what we were doing but when he walked in when Peter Mayhew walked in my dad like grabbed me and went look, look, look, because he had to duck down to get into the doorway. It was so awesome. And he was like, I still have the book. It's a character book of all the characters of Star Wars. And it's all the characters of Star Wars from the books so far and the movies. Cool.

So there's like, I'll have to bring that sometime. Those were such fun pieces of Star Wars merch is the encyclopedias. Like I think that's, that like helped kids. get obsessed with it is like, oh, you can read about like how the metal that the ship is made of and how the Zarlac burrows underground to feed its young. I'll tell you this, that there was a set of twins that were Han Solo of Princess Leia's kids in that character book. Oh, yeah.

And so I immediately when I saw the movie, I went, oh, these two were siblings and they are the children of Han Solo, like Kylo Ren and what's your fuck. but I guess that's not how it worked out. Anyway. Yeah, I think that is extended universe stuff that has now been retconed. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think it could have been better from the little bullshit book I had. Anyway, so my dad went...

Emily, you just became very popular on the internet. Emily, if you want to come out against the Star Wars sequels, that would really help our numbers? Would it? Because I don't care. But, like, it's... I'll clip this. Hang on. I love the sequels.

That's the thing. I love the sequels. I just love my, I love my childhood experience. Oh, fuck. Here we go. Here's the thing. I love everything and I think everyone is good.

You know what? You're right. Everything is good. Thank you. And whatever Star Wars movie, you like best audience, that's the one we like best. But yeah, so I,

my dad went, you could get one of their autographs. And, you know, so we're in the line. I'm like, of course. course it's going to be Chewbacca. Are you fucking kidding? Like after seeing him walk into the room like that, I was like, Jesus, I've never seen anyone that tall. But yeah, so it was a really cool moment, like father-daughter moment for sure. But then we saw all of those movies together in theaters, like the prequels and the re-release of everything. So yeah, that's the tallest motherfucker I've ever

seen in person. Let me tell you what. But the guy who plays, um, Chewbacca now. Who, who. Yeah, I've seen, oh, yeah, he's like a tall Dutch guy or something. I've seen him. He is, yeah. Poor Peter. Poor Peter.

Anyway, so yes, the Chewbacca very tall, but you know who else? Very tall? That's right. The Predator. And we get our first look at him. He, as Emily mentioned, they nicked him. He is in the trees, like, healing himself up with a little, like, healing kit. It's when we first see him.

I think it goes without saying he's the tallest guy in the movie. Sting goes here. Tall is guy. And yeah, we're like an hour into the movie just kind of getting a look at the alien for the first time. Like how patient this is. Yeah, this movie is like an hour, 45 minutes long.

And I can't believe how much they did in this movie. I remember all of this happening thus far going, holy fuck, how much more is going to happen? And boy. Well, yeah, actually, we're about to get to the kind of final battle with the predator. And we're going to talk about that right after this. Hey, we're back.

It's free with ads. We're talking about the thrilling conclusion of Predator, 1987. So Predator, he's fucking everybody up. Carl Weathers kind of tries to, tries to kind of redeem himself and kind of go back and save everybody. Of course, gets his arm blown off the arm. Which is that the happy Gilmore reference? Oh, that's a good question because, right, he did get his arm chopped off. by an alligator in happy or his hand chopped off by a halcapacier in happy gilmore so i kind of went is this like

is happy gilmore a callback to predator might be it might be um fun observation uh do happy gilmore and the predator take place in the same universe i don't know there is a lot in this movie that is like just spilled out into the culture it's true i mean i didn't realize how big and important it was until watching it just now and I'm like this is one of the most important movies I've ever seen it is and it's like

there's so many like I mean just get to the choppa maybe you don't realize that's where it's from but it's from this and yeah the meme and everything and so yeah

no time to bleed I don't remember that's a line that I've heard a million times too yeah and then they say and then Arnold you know because they find

because they find the blood Arnold says if it bleeds we can kill it yeah yeah I want a shirt with that on it And then it'll Oh my God, it should be out a pair of panties.

I want to put it on my panties. If it bleeds, we can kill it. I'll look at Etsy right now. Kill me, Daddy. Set traps for my pussy. What is a pussy but a trap? What is a pussy but a trap? My pussy is a cloaking device

And hunts for sport. My pussy is heatsy. seeking, which by the way, if I was in the jungle and I saw all of these men, the heat seeking would be insane. Like, just on my loins. It would just be like, all the blood drains out of the rest of your body. It would be a beacon to the predator. He would be like, beep, be, be. In the shape of a teeny tiny dot, because that's how tiny it is.

How little. Tiny but bright. Shane Black would not be making big pussy jokes about yours for it's too small. A dime, a dime of a pussy it is. Maybe one whole nickel. So everybody's dying. Carl Weathers gets his arm blown off, but the arm still shoots the gun. What the fuck was that?

I don't know. I guess that's how much of a soldier he is. He's just even shooting a gun when his arm gets chopped off. Hell yeah. Billy kind of does this like kamikaze mission to where he, you know, stays behind. He like slashes himself with the knife and kind of goes in. We don't see Billy get killed, but we just hear him out screen. I hate that. I hate that we didn't see it because he has been this tracker, the entire movie.

He's had more instincts than any other character. He's gone there. nothing in the trees or something. And he takes off all of his weapons and he's like, let's go hand to hand. And we didn't get to see it. I'm so pissed about that. But whatever, he was probably a pain in the ass on set. It sounds like he might have been a pain in the ass.

Okay. But Bill Dukes. Well, all the more reason to see him get blown away. No, shit. But Bill Duke and Carl Weathers are kind of together when they both bite the dust, which Bill Duke is like. he's really figuring him out too. Because what's so sad is like all of them are individually figuring out the predator in different ways.

Like where it could have been useful to communicate to each other. Right. But I thought Bill Duke was going to at least give him a little wound. At least like, but boy, he gets him. Like he's crawling through these, um, underneath these big trees. He's like weaving his way in there and the predator just plops right. down a log and sees him through it and blows his head off. And the water, like the water, the blood goes on to the camera lens.

Yeah. Like the camera lens gets sprayed, which I was like, ooh, fourth wall. Like it was a little, but also kind of cool. Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah. And yeah, Bill Duke always drinking from that scorpion flask. When we looked at that movie auction site that had the rhino, the Ace Ventura came out of its butt.

You could buy that flask on that side. No, no, no. I know. I should have done it. I should have done it. Well, I mean, how much was it, though? That's a good question. I forget.

That was one where I'm like, maybe I'll buy the flask from Predator. Jordan. Oh my God. I missed my chance. I bet there's more than one. There's got to be more than one. There's got to be more than one. Yeah.

Anyway, so, so yeah, basically everybody's dead at this point, except for Arnold. He kind of jubes. jumps in some water and he gets all this mud on him and realizes that the predator sees via heat. That's how he can see Emily's pussy so well. Put the mud on my pussy. So it's invisible. So he's caked in mud. He realizes the predator can't see him so that he.

I think he says it out loud too. He says like, yeah, yeah. He can't see me. Like it's a very like, I was like, oh, oh, because then he's cold. He can't be seen. And then he said out loud and I was like, oh, good. Good. Thank you for telling me, Arnold.

Because there is basically no dialogue in the final, like 15 minutes of this movie. And like, I'm kind of saying this is a joke, but I totally think it's real. Arnold has never been better than this stretch of movie. And, you know, Arnold's weak point is dialogue. Talking. He is so fucking intense here. And maids. I love maids

I cannot resist maids I can't help it I love the way they clean I just have to let them destroy my family so he he's covered in mud and he's so intense

and his eyes are so big and white and he looks like he's just gone insane with rage it's like he's great this is like as this is the best Arnold acting ever no I mean but I also think that

Every fucking performance in this movie lifts each other up. I think that he is elevated because of the actors. He's with also, please, this documentary, they talk about how competitive all these actors were, how they would go work out together in the morning. And like, they would all challenge each other in the gym and work out constantly. And Carl Weathers was like, fuck that.

I'm not doing that. And he goes, I'd wait till they'd leave and then I'd go work out. so they thought that I was just jacked without doing anything. Jesse Ventura walks and he's like, all right, boys, let's have a kissing challenge. Let's see who the best kisser is. No, Jordan, there's a story

about how Arnold told the wardrobe people to measure both of their biceps and like tell Jesse Ventura his was bigger than Arnold's. And then Jesse challenged Arnold to a bicep measuring contest and Arnold knew he would do it. and then he beat him.

Just to like fuck with him. Like it's so cool. Just a petty piece of shit. Yes. They were all, they were all petty pieces of shit to each other, but they all didn't hate each other. They all loved.

It sounds like it was fun. It sounds like it was like. Yeah, yeah. They were competitive, but they didn't tear each other down. It was like really cool. But yeah, his acting in this is just outstanding.

And the, I am a little, confused about the mud thing. It would make sense to me that the mud is cold coming out the water. Right. But once it dries on you, is it still like blocking heat? Like I guess I don't, science-wise. Yeah.

Listeners, please in like go on Reddit and like do some sciencey stuff. I bet y'all are scientists. That's the fan base we have. And I think y'all are though. I bet y'all are. You might be scientists. There might be some scientists out there. Yeah. I mean, I think, I do think, I think you're, you're right to question whether or not that would have worked. I do think you are, you have now thought about it more than anybody involved with the movie. Well, here's, here's the thing I will say. Because if you don't know this already, listeners, I do a little show on Mythical Kitchen Channel called Meals of History. We did an episode about the Oregon Trail. And there's this thing where you coded. apples in clay and you put them in a pit and a fire pit and it would like cook the apples perfectly

without like, you know, things getting mushy, I guess. So maybe there is something about mud like preserving something, but I don't know if it's going to keep the heat from like anyway. Y'all go nuts. I'm, I am thinking about this too much. So Arnold sets up all these traps. I just love traps in a movie. I feel like every time someone's setting up a trap, I just sing traps to the tune of, remember shots. I'm just like traps, traps, traps, traps.

Traps, traps, traps. Everybody. Also, the compilation of him making all the traps was like me going, yeah, they'll do anything but text you back, you know. I'm sorry, I have to rig up a log to swing out of a tree.

I'm just really busy right now. Let me know if you get to the bar and it's fun. Maybe I'll come out. I don't know. I have a very early morning tomorrow. I've just got a lot of family stuff going on right now. I'm just not much of a texter. Yeah, exactly.

I'm trying to unplug and be a little more present. Anyway, just Arnold, Arnold fuck boy excuses. Yes, exactly. Anyway. So, yeah, Arnold builds a traps. Does he build them very quickly? Sure.

Yeah. In a matter of five minutes rigs up 10 fucking amazing traps, but that's just how fucking good Dutch is. The predator comes for him. They have like a bare knuckle fight. And I think this is kind of what you're talking about, Emily, is like once the predator realizes

he has no weapons in armor, the predator kind of takes off his shit and then they go bare nut, then they go, you know, mono and mono, and Arnold kills him. Yep. Well, he's, he, well,

He doesn't. The predator kills himself. Oh, yeah. So I guess Arnold drops, Arnold drops a big log on him and it kind of crushes him. And then he, you know, he finds the predator, you know, gushin green, K.Y. Blood. And, uh, and.

There's a whole mask reveal, too. The mask reveal is a friend of his face for the first time. So fucking cool. And the roar that comes out of him where he goes, rah! Because you did hear Arnold scream to summon the predator. to come find him. Oh, God, I know.

Someone told me that the predator is like recorded sounds of all of the men or whatever. So the laughing is actually the sound of one of the men who was laughing. Yeah, it's Billy laughing at one of Shane Black's pussy jokes. Yeah, so maybe when he's roaring, maybe it's like an echo of Arnold's roar into the distance. I don't know But like I really I liked the little details of the technology

that Predator had Like you don't get a lot of details But the ones you get you're like cool But yeah so he has like a What's the thing where you're like Self-Destruct button? He's got a self-destruct button And so he's laughing when he's under the log

Because it's like I'm going to get the last laugh Essentially But and then Arnold just Sprints as fast as he can And this like wave of like atomic bomb wave of explosion happens. And then, yeah, so my buddy Ryan Christian, who I've mentioned on this podcast a couple

times, who's the guy who had the biggest DVD collection who, like, showed me all these classic movies for the first time. I think we watched Predator together for the first time. He on his arm has the Predator's self-destruct sequence tattooed. It's the greatest tattoo. That's so cool. Well, I was talking to someone about how, you know, the, the light, the shoot, like when he's about to shoot someone.

You know, usually it's one little neon light. It's a triangle for the predator. And someone was like, oh, that would be a cool tattoo to have. And I was like, that's kind of. Oh, like the predator's hunting you. Yes, like the predator's hunting you. I put it right on my fucking pussy. I don't know.

No, I'll put a tramp stamp. That's a pretty good tramp stamp right there. I'd say. Oh, no. The predator destroyed my ass. You want to know something so sad, Jordan. I got like, I had to go to the, dermatologist. I was so scared about this and you made me feel a little better and then I felt not good

because they burned a mole off of me like in my tramp stamp. So maybe I should get a predator triangle. Oh, yeah. There's a little. If you have a little dot already, just add two more. Yeah. Yeah. Hunt my ass, daddy. So yeah, that's kind of the end. You see, you know, Anna survived and you kind of see Arnold looking just shell-shocked and then flying away from this giant fucking explosion that who knows how they made it out of that. But they did. And then you have the credits where all the men are like turning to the camera and giving a little look. Every movie should end like this.

All movies should have this exact credit style. My favorite thing is they do the credits with each picture of each person. And then they do credits with all of their names going up anyway. Yeah. And I'm like, we saw it. We got it. It's cool. Like, what are you doing?

But my favorite. That took me out when I saw it. I couldn't believe that that was happening. There's a very, there's a very funny YouTube video. I think this is kind of a meme of like people. Yeah, people putting old sitcom music to the people, to the guys turning around. And it's very funny. It works.

Works great. I am a little pissed that the actor who played the predator didn't get to do it. But I think that would kind of take away from the scariness, from the illusion. So it's probably better they didn't give it to him. But so something we kind of, I don't know if people realize it in this movie or if this is like in future predator things, but that this is an alien that essentially like gets dropped onto other planets to hunt beings for sport. I think this predator was like a dentist. on other

another planet. Just some rich piece of shit, bought a bunch of fancy weapons. Yeah, and he's holding up a tiger. Like, look at me. He does some beautiful teeth. Beautiful teeth. But do you remember the dentist who like killed a tiger?

Oh, yeah. So, yeah, the predator is basically the Trump's sons of the galaxy. Yes. A planet of Trump's sons. This predator is the worst predator of all of them. I haven't watched the other ones, but I am not impressed by him. I think he fights, he fights dirty, like the sheriff of Nottingham. Like, he is, he is a bagillionaire's son, asshole.

I don't like this predator. And although I think he looks cool and he's tall. So I guess people like that or whatever, I'm tall. I'm not interested. But anyway. Hey, I think that's a perfect segue into our next segment. We're going to do the hunk watch. It's hunk watch.

Like, as you said, Emily, I think this is one of the most difficult hunk watches of all time. I don't know what to do, Jordan. On this, it changes for me on every viewing. I think we've already talked about how fucking awesome Arnold looks with a little bit of stubble. So, but this time, for me, Carl fucking Weathers. Yeah, baby. So sweaty. You know, he shoots, he shoots a gun even when his arm.

gets chopped off. Yeah, he's, he's, I think he's, he's awesome in this. And like, obviously had like an awesome career, but like, the fact that Arnold became the like beloved character actor, I think is, you know, a little bit weird because he's so, I mean, they're both great. But like, he's awesome in this. And I just, I loved every second he was on screen. So for me, Carl Weathers.

Yeah. What about you? You got to make a call. So I think you're 100% right. I think Arnold is a hunk of all. time and he doesn't need this win. He just doesn't. No, no, no. Um, yeah. So, God, this is so hard. I, oh, man. So I'm going to give it to Bill Duke because he just had this, um, mysterious, intense masculinity where he was also like supporting these other men who were not as, like,

powerful and as intense as he was. He was clearly the better soldier. He was like, ooh, God, he's just so cool. Yeah, it's Bill Duke, baby. Or his character's name is Mack. But also, best performance of the whole movie. He's awesome in this.

Damn, this guy rules. He rules so much. Bill Duke, you're still around. You're still alive, and I'm still here too. holler at your girl just splay out near his star on the Hollywood walk of fame

yeah that's right Daniel do you want to weigh in I think yes the as as as as Matt's fill in today do you want to you want to lift up I don't know you know he has enough but it does need to be said again I can't not give it to Arnold I mean it's the legend

Fair. A former politician Future at this point. It's also like this movie is one of the most heterosexual movies I've ever seen. And in the 80s way of heterosexuality, it crosses all the way back

into homoeroticism. Yeah. Because it's nothing but men. And so I think hunks all around, but Arnold's a standout. All around. Again, I do think romance and sex can be two different things.

And I think this movie is a romance. A lot of ways. I would love a more homoerotic version in this movie. Yeah. Well, that's Roadhouse, so go watch that. They made it. It's called Roadhouse.

And it's also perfect. It is. It's a perfect movie. It's also perfect. Well, yeah, that was the Hunkwatch. We're going to tell you what we thought of Predator overall when we come back. Hey, it's free with ads. We're talking about Predator, we're going to rank it on a scale of 1 to 10 super loud commercials.

But first, we want to let you know to go to maximum fun.org slash join. That's how you support the show. That's how you get our bonus episodes. This month, we're trying out a kind of a new bonus episode format. We're going around the horn. Everybody's picking a show to make the others watch, something that they love, an all-time favorite, something that they're watching now. It could be free.

It could be on a paid streaming site. This month, Emily chose to watch. A Game of Thrones, a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. That's right. I call it A Game of Thrones. Another big, tall dude. That's my jam, I guess. I don't date them, but I think they're cool.

Tallest guys. I'm the tallest guy in all my relationships. So, yeah, tons of fun. We all, like, absolutely loved it. And, yeah, Matt Lieb is picking this month. So if you want to hear what Matt picks, Maximumfund.org slash join. I don't even know what he's going to pick.

I don't know what he's going to pick either. We'll text him after this and see what he's going to pick. Okay, so we are going to rank Predator on a scale of 1 to 10 super loud commercials. Daniel, you want to go first? Do you have a ranking for Predator? So I first watched this movie when I was a kid, the Made for TV version. Right. And in the iconic scene where the Predator takes off.

Oh, you mean the edited for TV? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The edited all edited for TV version. It's like the Lifetime version of Predator. The Lifetime version with soft lighting. They just shot it on the mama's family set. No, it was just the, you know, the dad from seventh heaven. Right.

Exactly. Yeah. Anyway, the predator, yeah, the edited for TV version with all the blood and guts and gore cut out. And I still liked it then. My favorite line from that version is when a predator takes off his mask, he says, Arnold says to him, you are one ugly motherfucker. In the Mayford TV version, he goes,

you are one ugly, son of a bitch. And it's so clearly an overduve. Right. Ah, yeah. I like this as an action movie. I like it. I don't know if I like it as much as you guys. I'm gonna give it six out of ten.

Super loud commercial. All right. Okay. Emily, dying to know what you thought. is your, other than Alien versus Predator, this is your first experience with the Predator franchise. Yeah, I'm dying to know what you thought.

I can't remember what the score was I gave Alien versus Predator. And I know I wanted to talk about the lore a little bit of them because in Alien versus Predator, which, not canon, there is this

idea that... I will say, as someone who has had to pay a lot of attention to Predator Cannon recently. Please, the expert, please. I don't think AVP isn't canon. I think, I don't think there's anything that's happened that says AVP didn't happen. Anyway, that's my opinion. Well, let me run this by you then.

Yes. Because in, from my recollection, AVP, it revealed like, you know, this trophy room where the predator had, you know, alien, heads and stuff. So it suggests that the predators created the aliens to hunt. And I think that is not, I think they have like harnessed the aliens to hunt. And I will say that that alien head, the first time we see it in the Predator Trophy Room, is in Predator 2. Oh.

And so that's, that was intended to be this inside joke that no one noticed, but everyone got so fucking horny for the idea of those things fighting. That's when the comics came along. the Dark Horse comics. You had some video games and then you had the movie. So I think... I don't think the idea

is that the predator created the aliens, the xenomorphs, but I think it's that because they travel the galaxy, they found this thing that is the, you know,

the perfect killer and they have been seeding planets with it so that they can come back later and have this like hunting ground. Oh! I don't think... Because we all know

from seeing Prometheus that the engineers created the zino- We don't know. We all know, George. We all know. We all know. Everyone knows it.

Everyone in the whole world knows about Prometheus. I did not know what to expect with this movie. I didn't know it was an ensemble cast. I guess I thought it was like Rambo versus a predator. I didn't realize that it was going to be this like epic movie about a bunch of men who like are. just incredible team members to each other and the characters and the collaboration between all of them. And how they shot it, where they shot it, how gorgeous this movie is, how suspenseful this

movie is. I think this movie is now in my top 10 favorite movies of all time. Wow. This is a 10 for me. I love this movie. I don't think I want to watch it again soon because it was so tense. Yeah. And especially after watching the documentary I watch and just how hard it, how hard everyone worked to make this movie.

I admire the production of this movie so much. I think it's a 10. This is one of my favorites of all time. I love this fucking movie. Hell yeah, Predator. I will now go. Now I have to read your fucking comic books. You have to.

You have to. If you want to get the whole. My comic is canon. My comics canon. It is? It is. It's in the canon. I can't wait.

I can't wait, Jordan. So I'm going to rank and I know I can hear the Grypers out there. I can hear the people saying we can't trust Jordan's rating. He's a company man. His hand is in the mouse's pocket. Oh my ass. This guy can't actually say what he thinks because he's in the fucking pocket. And you know what?

I want to, I want to bring up my. voting record. My record speaks for itself. On this fucking show, I have given tens to Roadhouse, I have given a 10 to point break, I have given a 10 to Tank Girl. These are all high octane action movies from the late 80s and early 90s that make some use of camp, whether it would be large or small in the case of Tank Girl, very large. I think there's no, this is such an easy 10 for me, whether I had any, you know, financial stake in the property or not. I've always loved this movie.

I think, Emily, I think it's always been one of my favorite movies. I think it's the best Arnold movie. We didn't even talk to the guy, John McTiernan, the director of Diehard directed this. I think this is better than Diehard. I like this movie so much. Duh. And I think it's this like, you know, Die Hard's a Christmas movie? Me and my random friends, we like to talk about how.

Die Hard is porn for everyone that likes, you know, like, oh God, I can't remember his name. He dead. Chris Willis? No. No, he's not dead. The villain. Yes, it's porn for Ellen McMick. Listen, you know who to come to, all right.

Alan Rickman. A die Hard is a very good movie. I like Die Harder a lot. I like Predator more. It's a very easy 10. I think it's a fucking classic. I love watching it every time I watch it. Yeah.

And I'm so glad we got to watch it for this. Yeah. All right. That's what we thought of Predator. Let's do a little plug in. Emily, you got anything? Not at the moment. I will have something in June for you.

June. Little freebies. Oh, boy. Hold on, baby. Hold on. All right. Start getting excited for the month of June. Yes, I will go ahead. I think what better time to remind folks to go out there and grab

the Marvel Comics miniseries, Predator Bloodshed, written by me and art by Roland Boshi and Rory Coleman. I just got to see some art from issue five, the finale of the miniseries. Rory Coleman is doing the bulk of the art on this and is just a fucking comic book genius. This guy is shredding so hard on this book. And something that if you read like months, comics. Something really exciting is like these guys these artists they like start out great because you know if they're if they're doing if they're working for Marvel they're great but like by the end of the run they've gotten so good at drawing these characters like Rory's predators in issue five are so awesome and we have I just got to see our last page our last page is just fucking

kick so much ass I just want everybody to see this so if you're You're not already checking it out. Predator Bloodshed is at your local comic bookstore. And if you're one of those, I wait for the trade or I want to read the collection people. Good news. A collection of Predator Bloodshed is coming out November 24th. You can pre-order that now. You can just go ahead and do that on Amazon.

You can do that at Barnes & Noble, your local indie bookstore. Or if you like a cool place to get a book online, bookshop.org is a nice alternative to Amazon if you want a good company to give your money to bookshop.org. It's a mail book website that supports indie bookstores. You can get Predator Bloodshed there on pre-order for a little discount. So I'm going to have Matt throw the bookshop.org link to Predator Bloodshed pre-orders in the show notes. And if you want to come see me and get a signed copy of Predator Bloodshed, you can do that at GalaxyCon Nashville, May 29th through 31st,

and the Toronto Comic Arts Festival, June 6th and 7th. So come see me in Nashville, May 29th through 31st, and in Toronto, June 6th and 7th. Okay, tune in next week, when our movie will be. The Henderson. Do you want it to be Harry and the Henderson? Yes, I do. You can do it. Matt's not here.

Yeah, let's fucking go. All right. Tune in next week, what our movie will be. Harry and the Henderson's. He can't stop you. Maximum Fun. A worker-owned network. Of artists-owned shows.

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