Free With Ads - Reefer Madness (1936)

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

To celebrate 4/20 (the marijuana holiday), we decided to watch the infamous 1936 US propaganda film Reefer Madness, about how weed makes you violent and good at piano.Tune in next week when our movie will be... David Lynch's Dune (1984)-----Thank you to our jumbotron from Magica Riot. You can get your own Jumbotron by going to Maximumfun.org/jumbotronJordan contributed to Godzilla vs LA, a comic book anthology which comes out April 30th and all the proceeds will go to those affected by the LA fires. Matt Lieb and Francesca Fiorentini will be in San Francisco at Cobb's Comedy Club on May 7th! Buy tickets here! Jordan Morris appearances and dates!4/30 - Collectors paradise North Hollywood. 5-7pm , Nicole Goux and Gabriel Hardman5/2 - Litfest in the Dena Pasadena Presbetarian Church 6:30pm - 7:30pm with Yehudi Mercado, Sara Phoebe Miller, Eliot Kalan5/3 - Things from another world Universal Citywalk - 2-4pm 5/10- Mission Comics in SF with Briana Lowenson. 

It's Free With Ads, the podcast that asks the question, why pay thousands of dollars to send your troubled teen to boot camp when you can sit them down for free and watch a cautionary tale that will make them swear off drugs for good, lest they find themselves laughing in a closet. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Ebily Fleming. Today's movie is Reefer Madness, the 1936 movie about the dangers of marijuana that was written by people who had either smoked too much marijuana or had never smoked at

all. With us always, the super producer, the he-freak, Matt Lieb, hittin' us with those dank drops. ["I'm Feeling Iry"] -♪ My regu-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o What is who was who was that? I'll be honest with you. I looked up I love weed on YouTube That was what came up it is a Thought about it. I was like I should probably say what the artist is who does that song Well, you shouldn't have made it slap so hard. I is not like I Good, isn't it good? It's not like I wrote it. Isn't it good?

It's that song that goes, marijuana in my soul. Oh, Matt, put some stank on it. Beautiful. This is our episode that releases the closest to 420. So if you don't like talking about the sticky icky, if you're a narc, then maybe find yourself a podcast about Jesus or something.

Well, do some Jesus shit. If Passion of the Christ is ever free with ads, we are watching that shit. Yes, that is a very fun Jesus movie that everyone loves. It is camp. Listen, I'm sure there's 30 Kirk Cameron movies we can watch next week if we want to. That has to come after Passion of the Christ.

I mean it. We have to do it. Well, hey, we're going to talk about reefer madness. But before we get into this movie, which is as of this recording streaming free with ads, we want to talk about something else we saw for free on the Internet this week. Other free stuff. Emily, you got something for us from your secret stash. Or the the DMS that I send both of you at like 11 p.m.

when you have other shit going on. That sometimes I read and sometimes I just double click and heart. Yeah, I know. You don't always have time or energy to look at all the bullshit I send you. And I want you to know, I totally understand that. I'm going to keep sending you stupid shit. I love it, please send. Okay, you don't have to watch all of it.

Like I really don't feel that way. I want you to know that I do not. You just need to send it. There's something that relies in your brain once it gets sent. Okay, listen, sometimes I see something and I'm like, aw, they'd like that. Yeah.

They'd like me to send it. And I do that to so many people and then people get overwhelmed by how much shit that I send them and they're like, I'm really sorry, I can't watch all the things. And I'm like- That's hilarious. People are like- I'm like- Writing you a letter.

Dear Emily, I love that you're thinking of me. It's too much. But I can't watch the videos. Stop! I know. Dear Emily, I love that you're thinking of me, but I can't watch the videos. I don't need any more to camera comedy bits about ADHD. I just I know what ADHD is. I know I said, you know, ADHD stuff. Fuck you.

Um, but Emily, you have a whole podcast audience here. Right. Send your to send your shit to. So let's do that now. Why don't you send our listeners a beautiful video that you saw on the internet. Okay, so John Carpenter just got his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Yeah, there we go.

Kurt Russell was there. Hey, cool. Which I think we had an argument about. Who was hotter? Kurt Russell or who's the guy from Big Lebowski? Jeff Bridges. Maybe we talked Russell V. Swayze. It was Swayze. Oh, I think it's more Russell V. What's this fuck from Dennis Quaid?

No, Jeff Bridges. Yes, Jeff Bridges, Kurt Russell to me are these interchangeable or yin yang kind of things. But yeah, I don't know why. Oh yeah, but Kurt Russell was in The Thing, but he never worked with John Carpenter after that. And people think that means. Big trouble in Little China.

That's, okay, perfect segue. I guess that John Carp. I think they work together a lot. Yes. God damn it, TikTok. You convinced me that he had a beef with Kurt Russell. No beef. Those guys love each other.

But they went, he only did, if he was there at his walk of fame thing, why didn't he use them in any other movies? And I went, yeah, why didn't they? You know, in terms of misinformation. I'm an idiot. I fell for it. It's came from LA too, after that. They did a skit in New York and then they skated.

In terms of misinformation. I look like such a fool. Misinformation that you get on the internet, I feel like this is like the least harmful. So it is okay. Sure, yeah. The internet misinforming you by creating a beef between two artists who work together a lot is totally fine.

Well, in my brain I went, why didn't he have anything? Yeah, of course you did, because that's how it misinformed you. That's what it did. I know, and I'm embarrassed that it worked on me. As long as you didn't DM anyone with something mean based on false information, you're doing great. Emily, should I get my COVID booster?

What if you heard on TikTok? Yeah, what if you... Listen, you've built up enough immunity by getting sick exactly two times. If you get sick two times and you can't get sick again, everybody knows that. Everyone knows that. That was a new, you said that.

The plan, damn it. The oratory, okay. Every morning I drink RFK's cum. I take a little shot of his cum and a little bit of warm water with lemon juice. That's my raw thing. Cause a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. I'm high by the way.

Kurt, what's this video? Help, help, help. So okay, so John Carpenter and Kurt Russell, two Boone companions who work together constantly and are friends. Yes. John Carpenter, also big weed guy, big weed guy, big video game guy, we love him.

Oh yeah, he's very hilariously cranky and in interviews talks about just wanting to stop the interview so he can smoke weed and put up a war. What? Why don't I know this? Oh he's great, he's like one of the great cranky interviews. He's a legend.

But I didn't know he was a stoner. Like truly I didn't know. But I saw that he had a band which we talk about vanity projects, but you know what this ain't no vanity project Okay, let's hear I didn't know this I mean I knew he made music and he made the music for Halloween He did this it's Supposed to be on the soundtrack for Big Trouble Little China. Okay, so that's what this All right Little China. Okay. So that's what this song is. Alright. Here it is. You better run.

Mystic knight. What the fuck? Whoa. Take us away. Take us away. Badass. This song rules. Yeah, this is really good.

I feel like I, this makes me feel like I want to win an arm wrestling competition to win back my estranged son. Can I tell you that is still my? Over the top core. Oh yes, yes. No, can I tell you that that is still my favorite episode we've ever done? It's a great episode. It's a great episode.

Over the top. Over the top. It's like nobody fucked up from start to finish. You know what my favorite episode is? This one. And it just started. This is a really good one. This episode is? This one. And it just started. This is a really good one. This is a really good episode.

And it just started. Well, hey, Reefer Madness, we're going to talk about it. But before we do, we should mention this movie contains sexual assault and suicide. So if that's not something you want to hear about, we're going to play some music and give you a chance to find another episode. We're back. We're going to talk about Reefer Madness.

Hell yeah, dog. And I have to play a little musical. No, no, no. The original. This is the OG, the 1936 cautionary tale, originally funded by a church to warn parents. Surprise. Oh, damn, that's pretty good. So it was funded by a church to warn parents

about the evils of marijuana, but then was bought by a company that did exploitation movies. And so they put in all these salacious scenes so they could show it at drive-ins. I like it. So kind of what we're getting is something that was started as a cautionary tale and then was supposed to just be this like show us the Snyder cut like where's the Jesus cut of Reefer Madness. Get rid of all the exploitative stuff. Like, I wanna see what the church made. I wanna see what the church made.

The Snyder cut is absolutely just, remember the beginning of this movie? Where the guy's just talking at the screen? Oh, that's my hunk watch. I'm gonna go ahead and say it. Sorry, we'll talk about it later. It's probably just a lecture, a lecture from a principal. No, it really did it for me.

He's, okay, we'll talk about it later. We're gonna talk about, what is this thing called? Reefer Madness. We're gonna talk about Reefer Madness. Before we do. Oh yes. I just wanna get us all in the mood by just playing a little bit of something

that I think will make us feel ready to talk about this. It had better be Sting. Oh, it's much better. Big up, big up the whole island I am now fully ready to talk about I am now fully ready to talk about Reefer Madness. Now that Chet Hanks has welcomed us into Danksburg. He's truly a menace. Yes.

Is he still out there? Is Chet Hanks still out there? No, he's out there. He's fine. He's in these streets. Yes. He's in these streets. I think he's doing reality competition shows and stuff.

Makes sense. He was born for it. Perfect. Oh, totally. Of course. The wand finds the wizard in that sense. Ooh, I like that line, Jordan. I've never heard that line. Thank you. Is that a normal thing or did you make that up?

Did you make that up? I did not make it up, I think it's just like a cliche. You could have taken full ownership of it. Yeah, because. I did, I wrote the wand finds the wizard. I knew it, I knew it. He's a genius. He is a genius.

So, Reefer Madness. Apparently three screenwriters, it took three screenwriters to make possibly the most incoherent movie ever made. Oh yeah. So that's good. Have any of them smoked marijuana? Were any of them on marijuana

while they were writing Hard to Say? For sure they were, but not in the way. Maybe that's why it took three. But no, I think they were all high so they couldn't really portray what it was. Right, yes. Because they were so high. Yeah, they had trouble writing it.

It starts with a crawl where we learn the effects of marijuana, space expands, time slows down, almost stands still, conjuring up monstrous extravagances, just all this shit that's like, this is about LSD. This is absolutely not anything marijuana does. The crawl is really crazy and it is in a ton of fonts. Pick a fucking font crawl.

It looks like your aunt's minion memes. It looks like your aunt's Facebook minion memes. In this house, we believe coffee comes first and we pray every day. And weed makes you violent. And weed conjures up monstrous extravagances anyway. What the fuck? I saw that one, that was funny.

I liked monstrous extravagances. So it starts out, as Emily mentioned, with a hunky principal giving a lecture at a school. Wait, that's who he is, a principal? He's a principal, yeah. Oh, I didn't get that. I think, also, who is anyone in this movie? I thought he was God, to be honest.

I thought he was a preacher. But hey, you know what? Who cares? So he- I'ma fuck him either way. So keep in mind that this movie has a framing device because it will make everything all the more nonsensical. So keep in mind, the movie we see is a story

this guy is telling to a crowd anyway. So, oh and you know, and I also think in addition to being Emily's hunkiest guy of the movie, I think he's the tallest person in the movie. Oh shit, you're saying he's the tallest person in the movie. Oh, shit. You're saying he's the tallest guy. Okay, so before he tells the tragic story about how weed tears lives apart,

he explains how to grow it and sell it. Good for him. I know. He's an educator. It's like, okay, don't do weed, but here's how to distribute it. Here's how to grow it. Here's the conditions it grows in. Here's how to grow it. Here's the conditions it grows in.

Here's how to hide it from the cops. You can do it pretty much anywhere. It's just kind of it felt like a powerful white man going, don't grow it. But hey, white people, let me tell you how to grow. Yeah, yeah. If you want to, if you want to. Consumption, it's fine. He tells a story about how someone like feds found a bunch of heroin hidden in a barrel of olive oil.

That's what we call an Italian speedball. What? That's a joke. I'm sorry. That's a joke. Little Parmesan cheese on top of that. That's a spicy meatball. Oh, hey, I'm going to make a great jazz album. Will it qualify for She-Freak? Because I doubt it. Yes. It's the best jazz I've ever heard.

Oh, yeah, that was great. Wonderful jazz. Wonderful jazz in that movie. It's pretty good jazz in this movie, too. Oh, you're right. So then we go into the story of the movie. It is about May Coleman and Jack. They are two unmarried people who live together in an apartment and lure teens in and give them parties for free. How do we not know that the two of them are not teens whose parents like gave up, I don't know, parental rights.

It's hard to tell who is a teen now, because everyone in this movie is the oldest teen. Everyone looks the same age. Literally, everyone in this movie is the same. Yes. So we get this we get this kind of salacious shot of May putting on her stocking She's like putting on stockings hitching them up in 1936 this was porn. This was people probably jacked off to that. I know I So I'm guessing this is kind of the stuff that the movie company added after they like bought

the one from the church. So they're like, ah, put some dames in here. Wait. Puttin' on the stockings. Do you want to know something? I can't believe we haven't talked about this. Yes. But what is the first like movie romance or sex scene that was like, oh,

I know what I'm into, like that kind of thing. Oh, do you have one off the dome? I'll need a minute to think about it. Well, it's it's David Bowie and Labra. Oh, sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, it's that one. There's a like, I don't know, in Princess Bride, when they like roll down the hill and then he's and then he like, like gets on top of her to be like, are you OK? You just fell down a hill, bitch. Yeah. Also, you push me down the hill. Crazy. Insane.

Anyway, he like asked, asked her if she's OK. And I'm like, oh, that's all. That's all I want. Is there someone to go, are you OK? I'd be like, no, I fell down. I'm not OK. Emily falls down a lot of hills. Yeah. Metaphorically, you know what I mean? But it's actual. So a couple of like, OK, wait, if someone walked in front of you

and said, are you OK, would you not fucking lose your shit? I mean, it depends on have I fallen down a hill? What's the situation? You know, a lot. I think someone asking me if I'm OK isn't necessarily sexual to me, but it takes all kinds. I do like that this was probably someone's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know you have a family anyway. That's right. That's right. I have a family. There is no sexual feelings anymore. So we go, after we see this little, after we see this, you know, little scene from the bad guy characters, we go to a malt shop where the teens are listening to jazz. They're listening to jazz in a malt shop.

They're doing a little dance. The jazz pianist is Hot Fingers Pirelli. Hot Fingers Pirelli. Does he say that? Yeah, they say that's his name. No. And we know he's he plays jazz. So we know he's he's he's on the reefer.

But we like we see the shot of him go into a closet and smoke weed and just everyone's weed smoking face in this is insane. It's so it's like this movie was made for someone to watch on acid having a bad trip. Yeah, sure. Like the way in which people smoke weed and do this like demented laugh, like the face, it looks like a painful laugh

the whole time. Listen, this is what I thought it was. Like I never smoked weed, I thought that it made you like this. I truly believed that marijuana did this to you. Oh yeah, absolutely. And then when I was in college and someone passed it to me, I was like, absolutely not, how fucking dare you?

I was like. Like it is amazing how, like this was made in the 30s. That I ever started smoking at all is wild, like wild. And the media we saw as kids in the 90s, people still acted like this when they smoked pot. Like if it was supposed to be a cautionary thing, it was people hallucinating and going crazy. Like when you smoke pot, you get sleepy

and you like listening to music. But do you know what's been around? Bass sounds a little bit better. Well, OK, so. GoldenEye is a little more fun. Yeah. But the thing is a little more fun. Yeah. Yeah. But the thing is, if you're never around people

who are high, you don't know what they're like, so you just assume this is normal. And I was terrified about it. Yeah. And then freshman year I joined a sorority and got high with my sorority sisters and it was a fucking blast. Yes.

Yeah, there you go. We had a great time. I wish I reacted to weed the way that propaganda talks about weed. Like, just cause it would be more fun. Right. For the most part, if they could do a whole movie of propaganda, why you shouldn't smoke weed.

And if it was just, oh, well, you'll sit at a party and you won't know when to do a joke and you'll just sit thinking of when the joke could happen, and then go, oh, did I miss my moment? I probably missed it. Or it would have been really good to, oh no, I'm missing the conversation. It's going on without me.

That alone would have stopped me from smoking weed ever. Do my pants make it look like I have a boner? Yeah, that's what being on the outside is like. Yes. Fuck! So the gangsters are taking these neighborhood teens and they're bringing them over to Mae's apartment and they're having these pot parties for them.

And they're all 40 years old? They're all 40. Yeah, everyone is 40. Everyone is 40. And their bitches seem to be giving weed for free to kids. To other 40 year olds. For no reason other than to corrupt them, I think. Yeah.

This movie doesn't know what it's doing. I guess maybe like this implied that they're like paying to get in or that they get paid later for it anyway. And so, you know, like people are, you know, people are making out in there. So it's kind of implied that like sex stuff is going on. Jack, one of the kids gives one of the mob guys a ride to see his boss.

I don't know why the guy doesn't have a car. And then- He's a teen. Oh no, but the teen is the one driving. I don't know why the adult character doesn't have a car. Because they're not charging for the weed. They're bad businessmen. Sure.

These are when I have a good time in an apartment with some teenagers. And they, so after they get out of the kind of meeting with the head mob guy, the guy says, the teen driving who was smoking weed while he's driving says, I'm red hot. And he runs over this old man in the street and like 40 people immediately run over

to check on the old man. Just fucking good Samaritans everywhere in this good old American town. But the guy- Back when there were pedestrians, you know. The guy looks like he gets up, but later they say he died. I'm like, did they lie about him dying?

Who fucking cares? The editing is so poorly made. Looks like he gets up, but later they say he died him like did they lie about him dying who fucking? Justification and Signals of when someone has died are blurred in this movie. Yes, I know I don't know. This is a Marvel franchise So we did a bitch die Will they come back using the Infinity Stones? Yeah. Also, there's parallel universes. Or I swear to God, life model decoys. If I fucking watch anything about a parallel universe again, I'm going to keep living my life and it'll be fine.

But I'll be mad about it. So are we get our principal guy starts talking to the FBI and the FBI guy tells him all these stories about kids who have done stuff on weed. He says a kid killed his family with an ax. Wow! By the way, when would weed make you do that? You know how weed makes you do that?

Makes you wanna do stuff. You're so paranoid about missing your shot for telling a joke that you kill your dad with an axe Expensive axes are expensive. They're heavy And and he mentions a woman who was found in the company of five young men So it sounds like they were just a polycule sounds like they were just a polycule. They were they were just a polycule, they were ahead of their time. Is that like, is there a different like mathematical, like polycule, is there like a hexagon, like how? Hexacule, like what happens?

I think polycule just means a lot. I think so, polycule can be, you know, anywhere from, I would say, you know, three to infinity. But then there's a quad, which Jordan, I finished Riverdale. Oh yeah. Oh. Sorry, Matt. I just need to have an iconic.

An iconic quad. One moment. We like Riverdale, but I hadn't finished it in forever. Polycool, really? Oh. Anyway. No, no notes from me with, listen, there's a lot of feelings about the finale of Riverdale.

I think the last two episodes are perfect. I think I love the finale. You're perfect. Loved it. Loved it. But I was like, that's great. It's what we all want to happen. They just did it. Then they went on and lived their lives. And they went on and lived.

You're right. You're right. Not seen it. I'm going to assume that Betty and Veronica and Archie and Jughead start a polycule. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did I guess it? You did. That's the whole fucking finale for me.

Damn, I'm into it. Honestly Jordan, you're right. It's an amazing finale in television in my opinion and one day all three of us will talk about it because Matt. I'll watch it. Oh, I don't know if you can make it. There's moments where it's like, I don't know if you can make it. It's there's moments where it's like I can't do this anymore.

The seasons are too long, but you know, no, it's not that. But you can do it. You can do it. All right. It's interesting to hear when people tap out of Riverdale. I know. I know. I like tried to get my sister into it. Like, we tapped out when Archie started the boxing in prison Okay, wait a minute that is so early like no that's early That's before they get superpowers. Okay guys. I want to say I used to read the comics and all I knew

I know don't even worry about the hamburger. Does he eat hamburgers in this barely? That was the whole character. I think he does not eat enough hamburgers in the he sits next to them sometimes. Oh, and also at one point, Chuck head becomes a god who is writing down what all the other. I really got to see this show. Great show. The show is great. Like Twin Peaks. Yeah, for real. Anyway, yeah. I really gotta see this show

For real anyway Want to point out a weirdo logic thing with this with this movie that has no logic So we have the principal talking to the FBI guy who's telling them all these stories keep in mind the movie is the principal telling parents this. So is he saying and I talked to the FBI guy and he told me like is he telling a story about himself talking to some anyway it's just this logic thing that they never answer. They don't have to everyone's high watching it. Anyway so back at the pot apartment one of the near the wells tries to rape Mary They get in a fight. They pull a gun Mary gets shot and they pin it on one of the kids They pin it on one of the kids. There's like 50 people in the room who are trying to solve this issue

Yeah, and it is it just goes so wrong. It is all the other dumbasses fault. Right. She allows himself to get framed for it because he's too high to remember whether or not he shot his girlfriend. That's a Sid Vicious type of situation. Wait, wait, wait. The original Sid and Nancy. That might be the biggest message is it doesn't, if you're high, you can represent yourself right adequately If something does go wrong if you're high you will be convicted of a crime you didn't commit which because you can't advocate for yourself it sounds like an indictment of weed more an indictment of People who deal drugs and who murder people well just like stay in control bitch like it's kind of that But you got to find your strain Stay in control bitch like it's kind of that but you got to find your strain

So it's this turns into like a the trial of the century the whole town is watching this trial Interesting when we see some newspapers about the trial and underneath there's some stories about shit dick Tracy did Shared universe yeah, you can see in some of the newspaper headlines like, Dick Tracy arrests, so I'm like, I wonder if that. I totally miss that. I miss that. That's incredible. So this is the original, this is the original shared cinematic. I love it.

Dick Tracy exists in the world of reefer madness. Oh my God, what if Dick Tracy gets high? That would be so sick. That's a movie, that's the movie. That's so sick. Okay, so the trial of the century is about to come to a close, and we're going to talk about it right after this. Hey, it's Free With Ads. We watch movies that feature ads.

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Emily, I just I decided to get stoned before this episode. And I kind of wanted to do the thing where it's like I do it on the air and then I was like, that's fucking lame. And so I did it and then maybe I did a little too much is how I'm feeling currently. Did you rip a vape?

Did you have a gummy? No, no, I buy these pre-rolled joints. Oh yeah. Love a pre-roll. Because I don't smoke very often and when I do I just want one hit Because if you give me more than one I Can't even imagine I can't I'm paralyzed with fear

I'm paralyzed with fear and anxiety and I'm like how when is death Met Lee a sober man, did you ever enjoy the weed back in the day? I used to smoke a lot of weed, I've never liked it. I never really had fun smoking weed unless I was alone. Yeah, it just was never my favorite thing. It just kind of made me, if I was alone, I could watch a million cartoons, eat cereal, and be happy. If literally one other person was with me,

I would be like, do I need to tend to you? I feel strange not talking to you. There was something about being next to someone and just being baked that I didn't like, because I was like, should we be interacting? So I get in my head. I get very in my head on weed. I never really enjoyed it.

And you know, but you know what's great? Heroin. Try it. Just kidding. Just kidding, folks. Stay safe out there. Listen, if you have a little bit of olive oil, a little bit of EVOO.

Yes. Little Himalayan sea salt. What about you, Jordan? Yeah. Yeah, I was very late to weed as. How late? What do you mean? I maybe tried it once in high school and maybe smoked it twice at college.

Really? At Santa Cruz? You were earlier than me, Jordan. Yeah, bad boy. That's true. A bad boy. That's crazy, though, at UC Santa Cruz. And I think even at UC Santa Cruz to not get high. Even at UC Santa Cruz, I still, because of the weird messaging we got around it as kids,

was afraid, was afraid what's gonna happen. Is it a gateway drug? Do I immediately go onto heroin? So I think I was really scared. I was a very fearful child, and I'm a pretty fearful adult too. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely didn't try stuff.

But wait, how did you, what was, how did you get weed the very first time? How did you procure it? I don't really remember, I think it was just like at Micah Spino's house. Shout out to Micah Spino. That is a name of a raggedy ass drug dealer. My baddest friend, frosted Tips on this kid.

Yeah, I love it. Yeah, Micah Spino. I think he's doing great these days. Probably, it's just weed. Everyone smokes weed. Yeah, it's just weed and it's fine. He's probably not in jail. Also, I had my first drink at one of his house parties.

It was a big container of Tang. You remember Tang? Yes, absolutely. It was just that mixed with, they poured vodka in the Tang and swirled it me also. I mean, I love it, honestly. Amazing drink. So yeah, and then like as an adult,

I started to enjoy it once you could get the fakey fake medical license, which I Loved I wish we still had to go to that fucking fake-ass strip mall doctor Really? Pretend to have headaches and get the little license Okay, I never had to do that I moved here and I had a roommate who was doing it So I just gave her money and then she got the shit I wanted

Yeah, sure, but I didn't have a California ID. So I technically couldn't go in there. But I really would have loved to experience I got sober before that happened, where you lie to a doctor about why you need weed. So what did you say to these? I mean, you, I mean, you could just go go headache you just yell at this guy in a strip mall who has a fake Chart yeah Crazy what a stupid regulation The funniest workaround ever before

Everyone in Sacramento was just like what are we doing and? And let's just make it legal. Have stores in malls. We just put stores in. I don't know. But some people were like glaucoma. And I'm like, I got to Google the thing I'm gonna fake that I have. Like just say whatever you wanted, and they would give you weed. I know. I didn't realize that. Now I know. Emily, you were telling us you did kind of a reefer madness type report in college. Okay.

Well, so I know that I talk shit about the college I went to in Batesville, Arkansas, Lyon College. It's actually was an amazing school and I had really brilliant teachers. So my senior year, I had a biology teacher, Dr. Han Ong, who I actually, I babysat his kids in his office. Don't know why he thought I was gonna be good at that. But he told us to get rid of our textbooks and then asked us what we were interested in

and then created textbooks out of printing them all out based on what we were interested in. That's cool. I know he was amazing. He worked on an episode of mythical him and his wife who's a microbiologist. Anyway, they're amazing. So he goes, you can do your senior presentation on anything related to biology and I chose to go, can you smoke weed when you're pregnant? So. That's the answer. That's a great. No, you can't do it.

Yeah, I guess if you can't have sushi. Yeah, I don't need to tell you everything in these slides, but I did choose to find photos of babies dressed as Willie Nelson and there's like so I found ones that I was like listen this could be your baby if you smoke one baby could be hilarious no no I just wrote facts on the side and then I put a picture of baby Willie Nelson next to it to try to keep people interested so I know I've got one there's another one

of Willie Nelson holding a baby. Love it. And then, and then I don't know what else the fuck I'd, what, I haven't watched, looked at all this, but I think that maybe, oh, there's a pregnant lady who's naked holding a cigarette. This is the most insane, I gotta go through it, but maybe I will post it

But the pictures of babies dressed as Willie Nelson in the year 2008 on Google Tons of them. Yeah, just tons OG memes like 2008 people were already posting tons of pictures of their kids dresses Willie Nelson Just saying it maybe get an a pictures of their kids dressed as Willie Nelson. Just saying, maybe get an A. Thanks, thanks babies. So that's, listen, a little personal aside, we do it because not a lot happens in this movie.

It's so bad. It's almost less than an hour. Yeah, I know. This podcast will probably end up being longer than the movie. Yes, less than an hour and impossible to tell what's going on. So yeah, so kind of, but what's happening is that the mobsters, they're all, this trial's going on and they're all going crazy.

They need reefers. Get me reefers, they say. That's pretty fucking fantastic. I remember that part. But they're all going crazy, they're getting guilty, they start turning on each other. There's a gangster that kind of looks like Jude Law and he starts beating up Jack the main gangster Oh who's wearing one of those like just classic gangster fedoras. I think that's the worst hat

Thank you because the professor at the beginning if you insult his hat I will come for you Oh, I didn't notice his hat He's my hunk watch. Don't, don't ever try. So, so they get into a fight. The Jude Law guy starts beating Jack with, I wrote something, question mark, a Swiffer. I don't know what this is. Find something, were Swiffers invented in the 30s?

I think that's the weapon he's using. Yep. Anyway. Oh no, he's beating me with the quicker, thicker, picker-upper downy. I just like all the product placement is just different things weed heads beat people to death with. He Febreze'd my eyes.

Do you think that Gen Z knows Quilted quicker, picker-upper? Do you think they know that? There's no way they do. I I was hoping so but you're probably right One day we'll die and no one will say our names again one day will die and no one will know our jingles They will this lives in infamy. That's right. Spotify is forever Live in infamy is that Would we drop the atomic bomb?

On down, live in infamy, any of the Femi. Anything in the Femi family. So anyway, the cops come while they're fighting, while they're hitting each other with cleaning equipment. This is just a funny weird little thing. So the cops lead them out of the door, but one of the cops stays in the apartment and closes the door. He's just gonna squat in their apartment and closes the door he's like well i live here now i live here now i've been in domain

they had weed so uh i'm moving my family in do you ever wonder if cops have like a cleaning service like if there's a dead body in your home do they get rid of the body and then clean it like there's definitely dead people cleaning services. Well, I know there's a movie with Amy Adams and Emily Blunt. That's how I know that. Oh yeah, Sunshine Cleaning. I only know it from that movie. Dude, that movie rules.

It's a great movie. Anyway, I'm like, but it's not like you should have to pay for it. I feel like taxes should pay for somebody going, there's dead shit on your ground, let me help. Like, I don't know. I agree, we should talk to the mayor. I'll do it. I don't give a fuck, I'll talk to the mayor right now.

Let me touch. Get him on the phone. Hey mayor, I'm on weed, clean my house. Give me those dead chunks. Yeah, wipe down my counters. So, okay, so one of the women from the Weed House, she gets guilty. She squeals on Jack.

I notice here she kind of looks like Christina Ricci's character from Yellow Jackets. That was kind of fun. Oh, you're right. Yeah, a little bit like that. A little bit like Misty. Oh, are you guys Jordan? Are you watching Yellow Jackets?

Oh, I love Yellow Jackets. Yeah, me fucking too. We go for the finale. I'm not caught up. I mean, I know what happens, but I haven't watched it yet. I watched YouTube videos that told me what. OK, yeah, I like that show a lot. You know, it's really good system, but when it hits, it hits. It's like Riverdale for fucking middle aged per menopausal women. It's like the best

And hey great Christina Ricci performance all your all your 90s faves doing a great job Anyway, this this woman who looks kind of like Christina Ricci from Yellow Jackets. She's so guilty. She jumps to her death Who's the old bitch? Who like holding her hand all the time? Her mom, I assume. I thought it was like a nun taking her to women's prison. I know, she's wearing some sort of like religious outfit, I guess. I thought it was her mom.

Who knows? Jordan, I thought the same thing. And I immediately thought like shame. Like, you know. Oh yeah, sure. The Game of Thrones. Yeah, she has to march through the streets. Right, I figured she was arrested

by tiny Mother Teresa is what was happening. Yeah, and maybe nuns ran women's prisons back then? Maybe they sold them out. Because her jumping out the window was like, what? Yeah. Also kind of stupid of them to have just a really thin pane of glass as a window. Well, Matt Lieb, there is a movie called So kind of stupid of them to have just a really thin pane of glass as a window

There is a movie called HUD sucker proxy Love it. Yeah, oftentimes free with ads and I really want to do it. I just please let us do it one day That's all I'm saying. Oh, yeah, what did that? What did that have to do with the window? Oh, there is a lot of jumping out the window What's the kids? Oh, there is a lot of jumping out the window. Okay, okay, okay. Like, kinda. A lot of great window, window humor. It's a running gag, and it's really brilliant.

Hula hoop humor, great Jennifer Jason Lee performance. Hudson Foxy, great movie. It is the Jennifer Jason Lee performance. So anyway, we go back to the principal in this framing device, which also, we have scenes of the jury deliberating. How did the principal know that? The principal's telling this story?

He wasn't in the jury room. How is he saying what the anyway that thing doesn't make sense. Also, can I talk about the way we had to go? And now we're out of the courtroom and then someone kills themselves back in the courtroom and then we get out because someone drives. You can't drive back in the courtroom. It was just like, can you just? Nonsensical, totally nonsensical.

Three screenwriters. Three screenwriters collaborated on this. It's three different movies, honestly, so it makes sense. And so then we kind of go back to the principal talking to the school people, and he says, this could happen to any kid, yours or yours or your hair right at the camera.

Talk to your children. Tell the children comes up. Tell the children. Tell the children. That's old timey for talk to your children. They were like, talk at your children. Yeah, talk at your children. I have a clip of that scene.

Oh, please. Oh, please. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I have fun. Why is it Godzilla in there? Because I can't add too much. He wasn't invented yet. Yeah, there's no Godzilla in 1936. I know. I know we can't.

We have I should have added Hitler. Fuck off. Now, I know we can't add the Godzilla for everything we do, but I just want you to know deep down, I want I want to. I want to do it every single episode, but I know it's annoying to other people. Oh, I don't think it is. I just think for me, sparingly, Godzilla sparingly.

Make him want it. Make him want it. I know, you're right. He needs one more Godzilla. You're right, I'm just letting you know I'm edging for this fucking Godzilla shit, all right? Hey! There's our guy.

Hey, well that's what happens in Reefer Madness, I guess. And now, let's do the Hunk Watch. It's Hunk Watch. Emily, you've been talking about the principal. Any other words you would like to say about your Hunk of the movie? I just remember taking screenshots of him when I started the movie. And then I got stoned, so I don't remember much else about the movie.

All I remember is I wanted this person to judge me, and I wanted him to tell me all of my problems, and to tell me there is no way to improve them. That's hot. Right? These problems could be yours or yours or yours. But actually it's all hers, baby. So yeah, I don't know.

Matt, you have a hunk? I do. My hunk is, of course, Hot Fingers Pirelli. There you go. I like Hot Fingers because- Jordan. As soon as I saw him, he's playing the piano. Everything is this early 20th century jazz,

sort of the Gershwin jazz era. And so I'm wondering if he is supposed to be the the, I don't know, the corrupting factor. Because he shows up in a couple of scenes playing the piano all high and stuff. And I was just like, who is this genius? Well, then that one female character is playing and he's like, faster, faster. Yeah, everyone plays piano really well in this movie. It's kind of crazy. But don't you remember what I talked to you about, about how it was a traditional thing that someone in your family had to learn piano?

Yeah, but it's just very funny to me that you're trying to sell people on the idea that like, oh, this weed makes you, you know, all these bad things. And you're good at piano. It makes you really good at playing old timey jazz. Seems like a pretty sick drug. I can think about that. Yeah. Every every scene, every scene where the teens are just like dancing to jazz piano,

I just imagine them saying, I hope rock and roll never gets invented. I hope they never invent it. Yes. What about you, Jordan? What's your name? Yeah. Jude Law gangster. Jude Law gangster. Handsome guy. All right. Looked a little bit like Jude Law.

Well, we talked about who we were sexually attracted to in the movie, and now we're gonna talk about what we thought of Reefer Madness. Yeah, I can start us off. I had always wanted to see this movie. I had always heard about it. I like am someone who kind of likes bad movies. I was a Mystery Science Theater kid, so like I like kind of tracking down the worst movies of all time. People say this is one of the worst movies of all time. They are totally fucking right. It's insane. And yeah, I've just kind of always wanted to watch it

I think like watching it by yourself isn't that much fun because you know, it's just like it doesn't make a ton of sense It's not fun at all You know, I will maybe disagree. I really had a good time watching I laughed a lot and I think if you're watching this like in a group you can totally have fun dicking on it Yeah, so I think for you're watching this like in a group you can totally have fun dicking on it. So I think for like bad movie history and bad movie, to give it some bad movie points, I think it does get a lot of them.

I think for me it's a seven because I really had fun with it. But it is an incompetent, insane, you know, racist movie. It's like, it's reprehensible. But like, you know, as far as like a fun, weird piece of cinema history, I liked watching it and I like that you can just kind of boot it up wherever because it's public domain. So yeah, seven for me. But I understand being like, what the fuck is this? Right, right. Matt, you want to go?

Sure. I'm going to give this a three. And the reason I'm giving it a three is because I... Totally fair, very fair. I think it's a bad movie and it's not super fun. I think it only works in a group. I didn't find myself laughing out loud while watching it, except for on the occasion, which I got to see everyone playing piano really well. I thought that was very fun.

That was pretty cool. That was nice. But yeah, it was, yeah, I think it was pretty bad movie. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who is not interested in watching a piece of cinema history and a piece of US government propaganda history. So yeah, if you're interested in as like an original, you know document You know then yeah, you'll probably like it other than that blows goats

Emily what do you got take us home? Um, I had watched this at one point I think Years ago and this time watching it The disturbing part was that women were entirely the problem like they it's like the Eve story of giving the apple and then ruining someone's life and I don't remember that from the last time I watched it but it was just kind of like a bummer and that bummed me out. And also it's like background movies, we talk about this. Base level, if you're a free with ads movie, for me, in order for me to like you over a three,

you have to be good background cinema. And this is a bummer. Like I keep watching stuff and I'm like, ugh. Like and also I hate like every noise but voices is so loud. Chairs scooting across the floor in the courtroom scenes. It's like Jesus Christ. Like it's a lot of that.

So I'm gonna give it a three, honestly. Weird that no one gave it a 420. Interesting. Good point, Jordan. Thank you. Well, yeah, that is a reefer madness. Let's do a little plug in. I can start us off.

Hey, we talked about Godzilla a little bit earlier. I contributed to a Godzilla comic coming out on, not 420, but 430. That's right. Godzilla vs. LA should be in comic shops on 430. I'm going to be doing some signings and book events around California to promote that. On 430 I will be at Collector's Paradise in North Hollywood with Nicole Goh and Gabriel Hardman 5 to 7 p.m. Hey on May 2nd I will be at LitFest in the Dina, the Altadena Literary Festival that's going to be at the Pasadena Presbyterian Church, it's usually in

Altadena. Can't be there this year because well you know but I will be there from 630 to 730 with Yehudi Mercado, Sara Phoebe Miller and Elliot Kalin. That's ListFest in the Dina. Hey, yeah, Elliot Kalin from the Flophouse. So a little little Max Fun hang there. You're going to be at City Walk. I am on five three.

Is it that is it that comic shop where you did it before that? Oh, yeah. Oh Oh that place is cool. It rips, yeah. I'm gonna be at Things From Another World on 5.3 from two to four p.m. Also with Nicole Goo and Gabriel Hardman. And that's important for a lot of reasons. One, it's free comic book day,

so you're gonna get some free stuff. Two, it's my birthday, so if you're not there. Oh my God! So if I, there's a shitty turnout for this thing, I'm gonna feel super fucking bad. Oh well I'll be there, are you fucking kidding? I hope to see everybody at Things From Another World. Jesus Christ, this is like, there's a Margaritaville,

there's a Hot Topic, there's like, there's no reason not to be in this like, area. Like. Have the time of your life. Two to four p.m. and on May 10th, five, 10, I'm gonna be at Mission Comics in San Francisco with Breonna Lowenson. We're going to be signing books there. Please come out to those events.

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I've been yeah, I'm a baby. I've been you guys I've been working to this moment hoping for this and I Would really appreciate it if you watched yes You got to get a membership so go to mythical society calm, please please please and watch Emily. Have you seen this? Matt got anything and you can find me and my wife at Cobbs Comedy Club, May 7th. Please come. It's gonna be really fun. I would love it if you and all of your friends came too. So invite people.

Buy them tickets without their knowledge. And then walk them to Cobbs Comedy Club. Say, surprise, we're going to see this guy who produces a podcast with stings. It's not going to be that, I promise. So yeah, please come out and of course all of the links to all of these events we're plugging will be in the description. There you go.

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