Free With Ads - Rock-a-Doodle, with Marie Cecile Anderson
Episode Date: February 3, 2026This week we invited Marie Cecile Anderson (Reformed Whores, City Cast Nashville) on the pod to talk about Don Bluth's country fried Chicken musical Rock-a-Doodle, about a hot rooster who is loosely b...ased on Elvis.Tune in next week when our movie will be... Ghost.-----Listen to City Cast Nashville with Marie Cecile AndersonFollow Emily on Instagram and visit Emily's ETSY store FlemGemsOn Thurs, Feb 26 Jordan will be hosting a Predator double feature in Orange County https://thefridacinema.org/coming-soon/Click this link to get a signed copy of PREDATOR Bloodshed #1-5! https://bit.ly/coolfightGet a signed copy of Web Of Venom #1 https://bit.ly/coolgoopAlso Jordan is doing some dates with the Doughboys. You can get your tickets at BirdFuck.com
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This is free with ads, the podcast that asks the question,
why pay Disney plus 12 bucks a month to watch the sexy anthropomorphic animals of Zootopia
when you can go online for free and watch the sexy anthropomorphic animals of Rockadoodle
and use the money you save to get a custom wolf fur suit with removable Velcro pants
that make it easier for you to get dicked down by a hot badger in a Hampton Inn
after a particularly horny furry convention.
I'm Jordan Morris.
And I'm Emily Fleming.
Today's movie is Rackadoodle, the 1991 animated culturedoll.
classic that you cock-a-doodle
don't want to miss. See,
not all the intros have to be dirty.
Cock, sorry. With us
as always is the super producer,
the he freak, Matt Leab, hitting us with
those country fried drops.
What happened?
She's a woman.
Love that character.
A men's rights icon.
Hell yeah, dude. I was like, fuck yeah.
That one's based. I want to watch
it stream and play video game.
I'm sure there's
of dudes online who are like complaining about Star Wars who have that bird as their avatar.
Yeah, absolutely.
That bird is right.
That's my favorite guy from Rockadoodle.
Other than, of course, Santa Clara.
Right.
Who fucks that other chicken?
Sure does.
Hey, we're going to talk about Rockadoodle with a very special guest today from the comedy music duo,
the Reformed Hors, and the host of CityCast Nashville.
It's Marie Cecile Anderson.
Hi, Marie.
My God, you guys, I'm so honored to be here.
Thank you.
We're honored that you joined us.
This is very fun.
We're going to talk about rockadoodle.
It's going to be a hoot.
But first, we're going to get to know our wonderful guest in a segment we call Talk to Guest.
Talk to Guest.
Okay.
So you're here for many reasons.
You're a musician.
You're a comedy person.
You're a podcaster.
But you're also friends with Emily in real.
life.
Yes.
So how'd you guys meet?
New York.
New York City.
But the best part is that we grew up in Nashville together but didn't know each other.
Yeah.
Really?
Okay.
You were both like comedy scene people in NYC.
Yes.
And I saw them live a lot and then I just like, I can't believe.
I just didn't have the right time to introduce myself.
I got lucky because the last podcast like kind of crew, murder fist crew, like we're
friends with y'all and so i got to hang out with you guys for a little while and then maria and i
became friends and well because i saw emily do stand up and i was like oh my gosh who is this
ridiculously funny smart southern gal who says exactly what's on her mind but she does that whether
she's on stage or not exactly exactly but it's just like such a fun hang and also like any
crazy idea she had i would be like let's do it and so yeah
That's true.
We made a web series together in 2016 and just like whipped it together.
Ghosted Busters.
Yeah.
Who are you going to call?
Wait, what is it when they don't text?
Yeah.
Something like that.
You wrote the theme song and it was really good.
There's three episodes.
If you can find it on YouTube, you're a genius because I can't find it.
I know.
I can't find the login information.
I can't update it.
But ghosted busters.
It was brilliant.
It was so fun.
It was, we had been ghosted by, uh,
too many men.
Too many men.
I had just a guy who asked me to be his girlfriend and then stop talking to me the next day.
What a move.
I know.
I love it.
And you're, hey, you're still thinking about him.
Yeah.
It works.
That's the way that's, you got to get the closet in somehow.
It was why we made the show.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, you got a good web series out of it.
So there you go.
That's true.
It wasn't a total waste of time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I'm also, I, I did an episode of,
Citycast with you, Marie.
Thank you for having me on.
But we went to the Nashville cat show over the,
over my break back home in Nashville,
which we've been multiple times and interviewed.
That is right.
And Emily is like the mayor there.
She shows up and they're like,
right this way, Emily, to the moon shine.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, wait.
Of Nashville or the cat show.
Or both.
Well, both.
No, but the Nashville cat show.
Yes.
We know the people.
And let me tell you,
they take it.
it very seriously.
And you would think,
like I know I can see Jordan.
You're like, I know who these people are.
But you don't because they are incredible human beings who love their cats,
but are also maybe you think this as well.
But pretty zainty.
Yeah, I might guess that.
So this is, you know, like we see dog shows on TV where people are like parading around
the breeds and making them jump over little pipes or whatever.
this is this is like
that but with cats
right
and then at any second
the cat could just rip
somebody's face off
right
I mean
yeah
they do not want to be there
when does that video
come out Marie
soon yeah
we brought a videographer
who filmed
filmed us talking to everybody
it was
oh my gosh
are there
contests
is like who can
like what cat
can sleep the longest
or something
most aloof
yeah
it's very serious and there are different categories and there's like house cat and they're
I bet they hate that shit at the cat show but they're serious talk with the puns but people
travel from all over the world for the Nashville cat show so I believe we we met him we met all the
cats and I drank a lot with this one guy who always brings liquor and keeps it behind one of his like
cat cages and he had like coffee flavored rum or something.
I was like, I was pretty like toasty while interviewing people at the cat show.
You're like, can I pet your pussy?
And they're like, oh.
This is not, this is, we don't, we do not like those.
Stop doing that.
Stop saying this is perfect.
Yeah.
This is not what we like here.
I do want, as, as someone who hosts a Nashville
focused podcast.
I want to hear from you.
Also, I want to hear from, from Emily as a, as someone who grew up there.
But like, okay, you're coming, you're coming to Nashville for the first time.
What do you do?
What do you, what do you show the out of towners?
I mean, this is an amazing question because do you want the inside view of Nashville
or do you want to do what everybody does when they come to Nashville?
How about this?
Is there like, is there like one touristy thing that's like actually awesome?
And then what's one like dirty, sicko, scumbag thing that you did do.
Yes.
Whitney, that is my boss.
I am so tired.
Emily.
Emily, let's say on the count of three.
Yep.
Where we would take everybody.
One, two, three.
Roberts.
Western world.
Yeah.
Wow.
Tell me everything.
What's Roberts Western world?
It's the honky talk.
It's like there's these, you know, classic hockey talks in downtown Nashville on Broadway.
And there's like legends,
tutzies.
But we think,
and I think most
Nashvilleians think
Robert's Western Room
is the best one.
It's the prettiest.
There's two levels.
They always have a drink special
where you could get a fried bologna
sandwich and a beer.
And do you get a shot too?
I can't remember.
It's the recession special
for $6.
You get a fried bologna sandwich,
a moon pie, some chips,
and a PBR.
Yeah.
And the coolest thing about Rob,
I mean,
much history to the place, but it's pretty much the back door to the Riemann Auditorium,
which the Grand Ole Opry was there. I mean, anybody and everybody used to perform at the Riemann.
Emily has performed at the Riemann Auditorium. Marie has performed at the Riemann Auditorium.
And so when you exit the backstage door, it goes, you can cross the disgusting alley that
smells like puke to Roberts Western World. And it is just such a joy. And all of the
the music there are just session guys.
I mean, just incredible.
And women.
Got to say that.
There's just the best music in Nashville and the prices are still really low.
And believe it or not, Emily, they are expanding.
They bought Jack's barbecue right next door.
So they, I was just hanging out with some bartenders from there.
They removed 26,000 bricks, historic bricks.
I don't know.
They had to get a permit.
And now they're expanding to Jack's barbecue.
So it's going to be double the size.
Oh, good.
Because it does get crowded.
But I do hope they get more bartenders and ones that don't ignore me.
Every time they're busy.
The downstairs bar, I'm like, we got bologna to fry back here.
I don't know.
I just feel like I'm the last person.
They're like, that girl ain't going to tip.
That's not true.
I tip really well.
She does.
Almost too much.
I'm like, Emily, no, no.
That's good.
I know.
I am in a lot of debt.
But karma, man, it'll come right back.
Yes, that's true.
I mean, okay, so then I think that people then,
we would take them to Brown's Diner.
Yes.
Emily loves Brown's Diner.
It's in my neighborhood, too.
So it's like my family, we can walk there.
She goes for runs, and then she, like, takes a little time out
and goes to Brown's Diner for a drink.
It's Brown's Diner, a Diner or a, or a, or a,
It sounds like maybe you can get, it's both.
It's a burger joint.
It's like it's a trailer that they've now like expanded.
Right.
The picture of this is changing so rapidly from sentence to sentence.
They're like, actually it's a pet store.
Yeah.
It's a trailer.
But you can buy cocaine in the bathroom.
It's inside of a garbage dump.
You could probably do that.
But yeah, they've expanded it and stuff.
But it's been there forever and it's really good burgers.
And it was actually the first place,
my little sister was brought to after she was born,
and it was still smoking in there.
So she came straight from the hospital to a smoking burger bar.
Perfect.
I love it.
God bless you.
But it's still great.
There's live music there a lot.
Vince Gill is doing,
you sent me the article about that, Marie,
that Vince Gill is doing something about Browns.
Yes, his EP, his most recent EP that came out,
it's like titled something, Brown's Diner.
Oh, that's so nice.
I know because in Nashville, a lot of these local establishments are disappearing.
So it's really special that Brownstiner still exists today.
And that we have people like Vince Gill naming their EPs after these burger joints around the corner from Emily's parents.
And right across the street from a Kroger.
That we went to over the holidays.
Yay.
Some provisions.
Oh, yeah.
We had some fun on New Year's and stuff.
Oh, we went to a rave.
You were talking to rave kids.
Hold on.
There we go.
We actually, yeah, that's something also.
I mean, L.A., I'm sure, has EDM, but EDM is huge in the show.
I know what you're talking about.
I've seen the movie Go.
Yeah, I've seen Go, so I pretty much know what goes on at raves.
Yeah.
We did mushrooms.
Yeah, steal about your money from Timothy Allifant.
That's right.
Yeah.
Exactly.
We did mushrooms, but I didn't feel anything.
Oh, yeah, sorry, I took all of them.
Oh, yeah.
You did portobello and she did actual months.
Yeah.
No.
Subcrimony.
Well, hey, sounds like, you know, Nashville, a lot of country legends come through there.
Vince Gill, you mentioned.
But nobody's bigger than the king.
That's right.
Segway into today's movie.
Beautiful segue.
Just thank you.
Seameless.
No one knew I was doing it.
Rock a doodle.
We're going to talk about it.
So maybe let's just go around the horn.
Did people have experience with this movie?
We've been talking about doing it for a while because it's a Don Bluth.
The director we cover more than any other.
It's true.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, had people seen Rockadoodle before watching it for the pod.
Marie, I'll let you go first.
Well, so this is where I feel as though I have to be honest,
where I thought we were going to watch this movie altogether for the podcast.
So there was homework before I'm finding out right now.
Oh, no.
I feel like I'm back in seventh grade and I haven't read the book that the book report is due on.
But I will say then that I watched this movie, when did it come out?
Probably when it came out.
Yeah.
And I think it was my first crush alongside Robin Hood, the Fox.
These are two of the hunky animals of our generation.
Oh, I guess Robin Hood was a little bit before.
us but yes these are the hungry animals that gave people feelings yes i'm glad that you said that
me too because there's i have so many fuckable cartoon characters from my childhood i didn't know that
women also had that yeah wait what are men's jessica rabbit jessica rabbit that was a one that was a
cartoon i mean that was a real woman yeah but then there's also lola bunny lola bunny
the house from secret of nym i mean the list goes on and on the list goes on the list goes on
And this one, there's like two or three.
There's that other fuckable mouse from this one.
I mean, I brought her up a lot on the podcast, but because we've organically segued,
there was a lizard lady from Ninja Turtles that I was really into.
Oh, yeah.
And she had a flirty neckerchief.
You know what?
I think that if you're a fan of Jordan and you go to the Comic-Con, if you cosplay is that thing.
He'll fuck you.
Go.
He's got it.
He'll definitely take photos with you.
Yes.
Get yourself a pink neckerchief and a giant green tail.
Or just bring a lizard and dress it up like that.
He'll fuck that lizard.
I'll fuck the lizard.
Get a selfie.
That's right.
Can I admit that I think I had a crush on Gus Gus from Cinderella?
The chunky mouse?
The chunky mouse.
The chunky one.
He is cute and helpful.
Yeah.
That's the kind of person I'm looking to marry.
cute and helpful.
Cute and helpful.
Yeah.
Gus, gus.
All right.
Yeah.
So we've all got fuckable mice.
Yeah.
You guys all got a mouse thing.
I feel normal.
Yeah.
I saw this when I was a kid and I did not remember any of the shit that I saw when I rewatched it.
I did not remember the live action tie-in, the live action animation.
That was a surprise to me too.
I did not remember that at all.
I think I appreciate a lot of the little details.
a lot more now like the just beautiful animation and stuff.
But the horniness of the illustration of our two leads is like they are so hot.
And I totally, you know when two people are like the kids from high school that were so
incredibly obsessed with each other and they'd just be making out in the hallway.
Like I get these two chickens.
It makes sense.
The chemistry.
It's amazing.
Is she a chicken?
She's something else.
I think she's a bird.
She's some sort of bird.
She's a bird.
But she looks like Sabrina Carpenter if she was a child.
Uncanny how much she looks like Sabrina Carpenter.
And vibes too, just general vibe.
Love the vibe.
Fabulous.
The voice of this woman, we'll get to it in the plot is this is Ellen Green, who is Audrey from Little Shop of Horrors.
Oh, no.
That's so cool.
An early, you know, sexual, you know, awakening.
Speaking of tingling.
Speaking of tingling,
speaking of tingling when you're 10.
A very breathy, like, baby voice in a way.
Yeah, she's got the voice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think,
Everyone who's ever been in a school play
is trying to do this voice.
It's the first comedy thing you're trying to.
Yeah.
Honestly, what were you going to say, Matt?
I was going to say it's Adelaide from,
from Guys and Dolls, you know.
It's that one character who was in every musical was,
just a girl who taught me.
I'm just a girl.
The same girl with OI.
Yeah.
Is Christopher Plummer the villain?
Christopher Plummer.
I'm studying real quick.
Yes, that is correct.
I'm on Wikipedia.
And there were, you know, I, like you, Emily, was, like, shocked by stuff in this movie that I thought I had watched a ton as a kid.
I'm like, oh, I don't remember that.
I don't remember that.
But there's some stuff in it that's just, like, seared into my memory.
And one of those things is Christopher Plummer when he's, like,
haunting them at the end.
He's the evil owl.
And he's like,
cockado do,
do.
Just that delivery,
that, like,
fucking perfect delivery.
Yeah, I like.
He's terrifying.
That's just in my brain.
I got to say,
it sounds to me like I am the most rockadoodle
of everyone on this podcast.
Yes.
I thought I'd maybe seen this once or twice.
I must have seen this movie 30 times because I knew it by heart.
No way.
It was so strange.
As I was watching it, I was like, wait, why do I know this movie so fucking well?
It was either I watched it 30 times or I saw it at a time when I was like just young enough that everything just soaked in.
But like every scene from memory.
So apparently I love rockadoodle.
Do you have the cassette?
Like when you were a kid, did you have the video?
I guess I must have.
I don't remember having the cassette.
But I literally had memorized every single moment.
Like from the beginning when as soon as it turns into like a picture book.
and he touches his monocle.
I was like, he's going to break the monocle.
I've seen this a thousand times somehow.
So anyways, I'm a big rockadoodle guy.
And most of Don Blu's movies feel like a fever dream.
Yes, they do.
Maybe it's real.
Maybe it's not.
And this felt that way as well.
Yes.
I think they are strong on vibes.
Absolutely.
A weak on coherency.
Sure.
Week on making sense.
Which is perfect for kids, though.
I feel like.
Yeah, totally.
The brain of a kid is just like, whatever.
Yeah, when you kind of like can't follow a story, it's just like a bunch of stuff happening.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, let's talk about what happens in RonkaDoodle.
We get a shot of the Earth from space and like sunbeams coming in.
And we just extreme push down from space to a farm where a hunky chicken is chasing away a rain cloud.
Yeah, this is shant.
Chanticleer now I should mention, you know how there are those people who like, I don't like the word moist.
That's me with Chanticleer.
Yes.
Every time I say it, it tastes like there's bleach in my mouth.
Yeah.
So that's what I'm going through.
I hate the word shanticleer.
They say it a lot.
They say it on.
Yeah, I'm going to power through, but it fucking sucks.
But I wonder what, so the name, like, where did it come from?
It has to be from some fable or folklore or something.
I don't really understand.
but I do know that there is a parallel with Elvis Presley's manager that, like, ruined his life in this movie.
Yes.
Sean DeClaire's manager is modeled after Colonel Tom Parker, who Tom Hanks played in that Bazelerman movie.
Yes.
So, yeah, also if, but, you know, our child was so full of Elvis shit, like, so full of, like, boomers doing Elvis jokes.
This is like...
Yeah, but this is a deep cut, like, reference to...
I didn't know if people hated the colonel.
Like if they knew to hate him.
I think even in the 90s,
the colonel was kind of the villain who ruined Elvis.
Elvis.
And I think he's,
that's what we got here.
Yeah,
because they made him do movies.
That was the whole thing.
You ask any Elvis fan,
aka, ask your parents.
Yeah.
What was wrong with his career?
It was that he did too many movies and not enough albums.
I don't know.
I'm glad that when I've,
I've seen him in movies,
like in the background,
I'm like, this is fun to look at.
Yeah.
He's gorgeous.
though.
Oh, there was a point where you didn't need to see that.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It gets real weird towards the end.
But he's still alive.
Yes, he's still alive.
Oh, that's right.
That's that, you know what?
Conspiracy theories aren't that much fun anymore.
You know what was a fun one?
That one is still alive.
Yeah.
Can we go back to that?
Those are the days.
I know.
Let's get away from the pizza gates and the QAnon.
Yeah.
Guys being still alive was my favorite genre.
Guys are being still alive.
I love Tupac.
I love Tupac.
Andy Kaufman.
Sure, Andy Kaufman.
I'll take a Tupac.
The funniest thing about Tupac being still alive is for some reason no one did that with Biggie.
Oh, yeah.
Everyone was like, yeah, he's dead.
He's not here on this earth anymore.
Even if he didn't get shot, I mean, is the cholesterol alone?
You know?
Yeah.
So this chicken.
All right.
We got to take a silence for Biggie real quick.
All right.
A moment of silence.
Okay.
We're talking about rockadoodle again.
Rockadoodle.
RIP.
So the animals on the farm, they all think that the sun comes up because
Chanticleer crows.
But one day he gets into a fight with another bird who has knives on his feet.
And then because he's fighting with this bird, he forgets to crow.
and the sun comes up anyways
and he's shamed.
Now, does this contradict the end of the movie?
Yes, whatever, don't think about it.
Who cares?
And then we get this, God, we get this,
so the whole thing is like a nesting doll.
We get a pullback, and this is the shit I forgot,
is that like this is being read to a child,
a live action child.
It's like the story of Chanticleer,
but while this is happening
in the real world,
world there's like a flood coming this it's like a farm family there's a flood coming um you know so
the family's preparing for the flood so the like mom has to stop breeding to the sun so she could go like
help save a drowning cow there's like a drowning cow outside a real one uh her dad the kid's dad
comes in he looks like he's the villain from i know what you did last summer rain guy murder clothes and
okay again again the it's fine it's fine
don't look for this to make sense,
but the part of this that drove me crazy
is so we have a narrator narrating the book
and then that narrator keeps narrating
what happens to the kid.
So it's like what's reality?
Wait, isn't the narrator also the dog that wears pants?
And he's also the dog who wears pants
and can't tie his shoes.
This was all added after the fact
because test audiences thought the movie was confusing.
I get it, this doesn't help.
This does not solve that problem.
But it did solve the question of if a dog wore pants, would he do it on the back legs or would it have to go around the whole dog?
It does.
So it was all four legs.
Every time you see that meme, you just point him to rockadoodle.
Yeah, rockadoodle.
And he has boots on only in the back, which is great.
I love this dog.
He's weird as hell.
Great dog.
And did you guys recognize the voice?
Who is that?
Who is the voice?
It's Phil Harris.
You might know him as Balloo from Jungle Book.
He's the guy
He's all the Disney shit
Was he Little John too?
Yeah,
Little John, you know
He's...
Every bear.
Yeah, every Disney bear.
I think he sang the Robin Hood and Little John.
Like, I feel like he's saying or something...
And Bear Necessities.
I mean, you know, this guy,
this guy's classic.
I wonder...
I knew his voice, but I could not place it.
Thank you, Matt.
This has got to be one of his last movies.
I don't know for sure, but it's, uh...
This movie killed him.
Well, I mean, it was either...
this movie killed him or Disney killed him after he did a Don Bluth one.
One or the other.
That's kind of something about Bluth.
He was a Disney animator.
He branched off.
And then for all his movies,
he would just like poach Disney voice actors.
You know,
they're all actors.
They can work on whatever they fucking want to.
But it does seem like he was like,
I'm the new Disney now and I'm going to like just put the little mermaid in my thing.
Anyway.
Oh, it was his last movie.
It was.
Aw.
Which he's like, Don Bluth.
why we love him is that he swung for the fences.
Like, and on things that had no reason to be successful.
Like, he didn't do algorithms.
He didn't do any of the, like, merchandising stuff that Disney did
where it's like, this will definitely make money.
Right.
He was just like, what if a dog went to hell?
And there was a dog mafia.
But they're still Italian dogs.
Let Perth Reynolds riff the music.
Marie, are you,
Were you a Bluth family growing up?
Did you guys have like,
were these movies in your family rotation growing up?
Land Before Time, Fifell Goes West.
Like, we were so overprotected.
So there's three of us girls in the family
and my father was very protective of us.
So we only watched Disney movies.
So Land Before Time was like when I learned about death.
Yeah.
Wow.
You know, Fival goes West.
Like, are you kidding me when he's singing?
when it was that that depth of feeling i think he taught me how to feel and then lion king is totally
different not him but that also was when i cried for the first time in public anybody else oh yeah
lion king did it but yeah nothing has made me cry harder than land before time it is just so and the music i do
think that the songs that don bluth has in his movies maybe not all of them are winners but
But the score of like land before time is the most heartbreaking shit. And then this movie,
beautiful, like music, score is really beautiful. And then, you know, the main song is good.
And then there's a song about tying your shoes that will never leave my head. And I think I'm cursed.
I think I'm cursed now. But yeah, his, the score is always just beautiful in his movies.
But he really did swing for the fences.
He did. I mean, an American tale is one of the strict.
I mean, it is,
great music.
Great music.
It is a ham-fisted tale about anti-Semitism.
It is almost a direct rip-off of Art Spiegelman's mouse, except for, what if mouse was happy?
Art Spiegelman, who wrote, of course, about the Nazis as cats.
I had mouse.
Yeah.
Fantastic.
It's banned here in Tennessee.
Yes, it's banned in Tennessee now.
But I've got it from the schoolastic book fair when I was a kid.
Marie, I'll smuggle you some copies of everyone poops.
Hand them out at the secret meetings.
A great quote from Art Spiegelman about American Tale was that both that movie and its sequel were cynical, nasty pieces of shit.
But you got to respect Don Bluth for trying, you know what I mean?
You dad.
Damn.
Yeah.
Can I just, music was a nice segue.
Yes.
The boy in this movie, who will later be turned into a cat,
a great child actor
named Toby Gangor.
Did anybody look him up?
No.
I didn't.
I'm looking at his picture right now.
He's adorable.
He's so cute.
Well, he's got a little old.
The picture I'm looking at is not, I need to go back.
Oh, he aged, gross.
How dare him?
Oh, there's a Judy.
I know.
He aged.
Oh, okay.
We mentioned that the live action scenes are clearly dubbed poorly by like voice actors.
Like the, the mom when she's reading,
It's like the mouth is not quite matching with the words.
And I'm like, what is going on with this?
I don't know.
It was very like, like what's the uncanny valley?
It was very that.
Did never ending story come out before this movie?
I believe so.
Yes.
Because I never think that was such a theme in the 80s and early 90s of like reading.
Let me tell you, have like an older person read a story to a child.
Yeah.
And then they have this like romantic
type experience.
Yeah,
Labrith is kind of like that too
where it's like it's,
well,
she's reading like a spell book or something which,
but it's,
that's a whole other thing.
But it's very Wizard of Oz of
was it all a dream or was it real?
And I think like Alice in Wonderland does that too.
Like it's,
that is a huge theme in so many kids movies.
Oh my God.
So to talk about the current project of Toby Ganger.
And he's great in this.
And I think something I like in this movie is that,
and a lot of Don Bluth movies is he has kids, play kids,
and he gets good performances out of them.
He does.
So Toby Ganger didn't do a lot of acting.
He is now a rapper.
Fuck yeah.
Who raps about a variety of topics.
One of those is Bitcoin.
Okay, so this is the image.
I'm seeing.
Yes.
Matt, I have a, I have in the, in our document, a link to his,
I'll say hit song.
You've got 290,000 views.
290,000 views.
This is Toby Gangers.
Welcome to the blockchain.
Bitcoin is a centralized ledger and the currency is its first enterprise ever.
Secured by the world by incentive by network.
Can't be stolen our control by any size ever.
Well.
You can send it anywhere.
It sounds amazing.
Sounds well.
So familiar.
I just wish the words were different.
Well, I love to do all the ad libs as just as cynically as possible.
Are you sure?
So the song is just him describing what Bitcoin is.
Now, Toby Ganger has other songs where he displays other opinions.
He has feelings about Israel.
So, you know, just say.
I'll do my own independent research.
Matt, I would love to hear your thoughts.
I'll speak AI guy too.
He loves AI guy too.
He loves AI.
Anyway, Toby Gang.
He loves technology.
And, you know, what can you say?
That's great.
Good for him.
It's so exciting.
Now I don't feel so bad about him turning into a cat.
That's right.
We see.
He deserved it.
And so the family, they're off taking, saving this cow from the flood.
They leave the kid in there.
Oh wait, I have something.
Sure.
So this kid has mommy issues like crazy because his mom's a bitch.
He wants to help or whatever and she's like, you're too little.
And I'm like, oh, that is a theme, you know, whatever.
But when he wakes up or whatever, it is broad daylight and she won't let him leave the bed.
Right.
And it's so weird.
And then throughout the movie, it's like he wanted to go help with the big boys.
And then when he turns into a cat, he's like, I'm too small.
I can't do anything.
Like his mom just shattered his spirit.
Sure.
Yeah.
And then he had to learn.
A munchausen thing.
Yeah.
He had to learn.
What's that bad movie we watched?
RIPO.
Throughout the movie that he was a big boy and he could do hard things.
And then his mom's like, you can't leave the bed as soon as he wakes up.
And you're like, God, he is screwed.
This is some psycho, like, backstory.
Norman Bates shit.
Yeah.
I'll show you, mom.
I'm going to grow up to wrap.
about the blockchain.
You don't know what that is now.
A decentralized ledger.
No one can steal it.
Everyone's going to be rich.
Bringing a banking back to the scam.
Anyway, so, okay, so that's when the cartoon evil owl,
voiced by Christopher Plummer, breaks in.
He uses magic breath to turn the kid into a cat so he can eat him.
But the cat gets away.
and oh also the the owl he loz rock and roll he's rock and roll he's very old-fashioned owl
he plays the organ too which is so cool yeah that organ seems great i mean he's rad but also the scene
where he busts through the side of the house and it's like the you know live action animation
that scene i wish i could screenshot on my laptop and it won't let me um
It's one of the most beautiful, like, cinematic images, I feel like.
Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous.
Yeah, this is, the, like, animation in this movie, like, looks great.
There's, like, some shit that's awkward, but it's, yeah, does that fucking hand-drawn animation?
It looks so cool.
Yeah.
So, uh, he, so the kids are cat now, and he joins up with, like, a bunch of other farm animals.
Are these the animals on their farm?
Are they from the book again?
Don't, if I drove myself insane trying to think about the logic, they're just animals.
They're there.
It's like, who is a little.
They're both. They're both. Sure. Yeah. It's in The Wizard of Oz, you know, all of the characters that you meet in Oz, you see them first on the farm in Kansas. So I figured they're doing it. Maybe that's it. There you go. That's good. And yeah, I keep thinking that this kid is going to wake up the most vegan kid. Yeah. Of all time. Same thing with Charlotte's Webb. That was like, I wonder if the point of Charlotte's Webb was to get kids to be vegetarian. I don't know. But.
And then we watched animal farm and we're like, fuck pigs, man.
Yeah, eat them.
Eat them.
So, pigs are communists.
Eat those communist pings.
Anyway, so there's a bunch of cool animals.
There's that dog who can't tie his shoes.
There's the, as we mentioned, a sexist magpie voiced by Eddie Deeson, who, like, was all the nerds in 80s movies.
Oh.
Dexter's Enemy Mandark, very funny, weird voice actor.
And yes, very sexist towards.
a mouse oh somebody it's the mouse sandy duncan the mouse is someone like a beautiful
peepers sandy duncan that's right peepers is voiced by sandy duncan who's that i love for
i don't know uh sandy duncan is let me see pa p p p p p p p p p pt still alive still
so that's fun uh and was in many television shows including bonanza oh okay i need to watch that
yeah i don't think you i don't think you i don't
No, it was such a huge deal
and people reference it all the time.
It feels like something to watch.
I don't know.
And then also was,
had a small role uncredited in Midnight Cowboy
as woman in TV montage.
So she's all over the place.
Wait, before she did rockadoodle,
she was in My Little Pony Tales,
which,
did y'all, were y'all into ponies?
No, we had ponies.
Your dad let you be into those big ass ponies.
My sister's like ponies.
I was a I think I was a proto brony
Interesting
What we didn't have a word for it
But yes
It just meant you wanted to fuck a horse
Wait wait wait
So explain
How you were a brony
Did you collect my little ponies?
Oh yeah I did yeah
We had a lot of my little ponies growing up
He man wrote him
I don't write anything
I can ride anything
I mean I totally get that because
I never had a Ken doll
I just had a
a Luke Skywalker, like Barbie,
and I had, which I lost,
I don't know where that is,
but he had nipples.
I remember that.
It's probably worth something.
I took him out of the case.
Nothing I own is worth anything.
They're all like,
there's definitely some mold,
like, something in there.
But Beast was the hunk of my, like,
did Beast fuck your Barbies?
Oh, yeah.
Beast fucked everybody.
I think I can write anything.
Yeah, he's amazing.
And then the Power Rangers and stuff would do it.
G.
G.I. Joe's.
That's what.
My first crush.
Marie, what were your beloved childhood toys?
Well, Barbie.
We did Barbie.
And then I, Emily and I talk about this all the time.
I did not have an American girl doll.
My parents were like, those are too expensive.
But I did have Rainbow Bright.
Just like you're a little match girl out there with a blanket.
She's never had an American girl doll.
You poor child.
But Emily had all the American girl dolls and told me about it.
We had to settle for a little Canadian ladies.
Right.
They were much cheaper.
I had one American Girl doll, which I still have, and I washed her hair for the first time the other day.
And wow, it made a big difference.
So sorry.
I'm going to stop talking about it now.
You sat around on a Friday and braided her hair?
No, I literally, I read a thing that you're supposed to only brush their hair when it's wet.
And that was my issue.
I was like yanking it with the comb dry and now it's all ratty.
But then I whetted it and put conditioner in it.
And it's plastic.
hair, by the way.
And then...
Wait, you have to tell everybody
which one you have.
Oh, yeah.
Well, we've all seen it.
Oh, you have.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
It's a live show.
It's a live stream.
Come up on the show.
It's come up on the show.
Oh, okay.
Well, I have talked about this that I didn't quite put it together later in life, which I think
as a kid, to me, this seemed fine, which is crazy.
She's the only American girl doll that owned slaves.
Oh, that's unfortunate.
Yes.
All of the other ones didn't have that as a backstory.
No, one of them was a slave.
No way.
Yes, Addy was the only black doll for a very long time.
And it was a slave doll?
Essentially.
Wow, I don't think I know much about American girl dolls.
Oh, well, they all have American history.
Right, right.
They're all placed in different points of American history.
So there's a pioneer doll.
all of them have a tragic backstory,
but mine has the least tragic.
Her dad,
I just wanted the red hair and the corsets and the shoes.
I thought she was so beautiful.
But her dad participated in the Boston Tea Party
and then his business like went under.
So they had to sell her horse.
This is a lot of backstory for a fucking doll.
I know.
But my doll was just like,
I lost my horse.
Whereas like the pioneer doll's friend died
in the belly of the Mayflower.
I made it out of the daughter party.
Exactly.
That's the only one.
So my doll is discontinued.
Well, canceled.
We call it spade a spade.
Discontained.
Well, yeah, she was canceled.
But also, I was thinking about it, I just like, when I had her on, mythical, I had her on
because they were like, bring your favorite toy.
And I started thinking about it.
And I'm like, oh, she's from 1776.
Ah, I wonder if she owns slaves.
And then I looked in the book.
book and they have paintings of all the characters in the front of every book and they are
characters in there.
Jesus Christ.
I was like, Jesus Christ.
But I've, so.
I mean, that's not that weird.
Some of my power rangers were Nazis.
Oh, yeah.
I get it.
Well, yeah, but now I've like, you know, I still think it's worth acknowledging that things
were, like, seemed a lot less like shocking when we were a kid.
we just, and also in the 90s, like, we weren't as woke as we are now thinking about things.
But yeah, that was bad.
I'm trying to give her a new identity as a new metal 2000s girl.
Yeah.
Who.
Something problematic about that era.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the tragic story from her childhood is like, I don't know, the Oklahoma City bombing
or Columbine or something.
What does it mean a backstory?
You have to have a tragic.
Like, can't it just be a doll?
There is one.
No, there is a doll for 9-11.
Of course, sir.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, sorry.
Anyway.
Rockadoodle.
So the animals, they're all going to find Shanticle
so he can crow and bring the sun out.
Even though we learned he has nothing to do with that,
but they are just like, well, maybe he actually does.
So they go to visit him in the big city.
Which one?
It's beautiful.
It's neon.
I think it's Vegas.
I think it's Cincinnati.
Cincinnati.
Yeah, that's fair.
It's beautiful.
It's got to be Cincinnati.
What are you talking about?
Why?
I was like, I've never been to Cincinnati.
Just making a joke.
Yeah, I've been to Cincinnati.
I'm a comedy podcast.
I love, I love when sometimes a Jordan joke is taken seriously.
It makes my day.
What are you talking about?
I don't know.
I'm just talking out loud.
It's a podcast.
Jordan, but this is a documentary.
So I take this seriously.
Anyway, so they're looking for Chanticleer and they can't find him, but little do they know that he's been looming over them the whole time.
There's a big neon statue of the king.
That's right.
Chanticleer has moved to the big city.
He is now the king and has a famous review and an evil manager who's a wolf or something who is supposed to be.
I think he's a rap.
Yeah, you know, I thought he was a rat at first.
I think he has a big bushy tail.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
There's like a really weird discrepancy between size with these animals.
Like that owl is enormous.
And he gets bigger and bigger at the end.
He becomes gigantic.
It has the thing that the like the cats movie did too where sometimes they're human size and sometimes they're like, like their whole hairbrush is as big as them.
So it's like, what are they make a decision.
Yeah.
Some of them.
Little guys.
Some of them have the hands of Dame Judy Dench with her diamond rings on it.
Anyway, so the owl and the manager are in cahoots.
The owl wants Shanta Claire to stay in the city and not crow so he can always have darkness
because that's what holes like.
So they're trying, they know if Shant DeClair knows his friends are looking for him, he'll
automatically go home.
So they're trying to keep all the animals away from him.
there's a great gag in here again that doesn't make sense but it's a really funny where they to keep the animals out they put up these signs on the casino that say like no dogs birds or mice so to get into the casino the animals have to dress up like penguins this is hilarious also wrong because penguins are birds yeah good point it's very it's very funny the animals dressing like other animals is fucking hilarious but also i didn't realize a lot you're right you're right
That made no sense.
It was cute, though.
It was so cute.
They had little suits on.
They're little onesies, which...
They looked great.
Now that I think about it, you know, Thumbolina, you had a scene where Thumbolina dresses
as a beetle.
So to fit in with the Beatles.
So this is a thing.
He likes putting a hat on a hat.
In this case, would that be the worst hat?
That onesie that goes over there?
It might, Matt.
Play this thing.
The worst hat.
Yay.
The worst hat.
hat on a hat.
Also, the sexist bird eats a big old lasagna, and that's the, like, delicious food in the movie.
Like, all dogs go to heaven had the pizza that everybody remembers.
Oh, my God.
We should have a new sting called, like, cartoon food.
Cartoon food.
All right, here it is.
Cartoon food.
Yeah, all right.
Put a little mustard on it, Matt.
Come on.
You sound like, you know, you sound excited about our new sting.
Fuck.
All right.
No, I get it this time.
Hold on.
All right, can't do it
Can't put any mustard on it
You can do it
Can't do it
Cacadoo
Cartoon food
So we get a bunch of
We get a bunch of musical numbers in this
Marie we asked
I thought it would be a fun movie
to ask you to do
Because of the country music connection
Do you have like movies
Where you're like
I love the country music in this movie
Oh man
That's such a good question
I mean, duh, like 9 to 5 or anything Dolly had ever done.
But I'm trying to think of like a cartoon because this is so, you know, okay.
So clearly I didn't do my homework and watch this.
But since you all have to describe.
I love that you're the first guest that is not watched the movie.
Well, nobody told me that I needed to watch the movie before.
I should have told you.
I said you the link.
We all should have told you.
It's okay.
Except for me.
It's so crazy is that I am now remembering.
this because we had this on VHS and would watch it like because after school or because I don't I just I just remember we had the VHS and then I was super obsessed with Elvis and my cousin became one of the, he didn't hold the Guinness book of world record of juggling, but he could actually do it once he quit.
school and moved to Las Vegas and became an Elvis impersonator and would juggle the amount of
the most things that, you know, was recorded it on Guinness books.
Wait, wait.
So is he the world record of Elvis impersonators that can do the most juggling?
Yes.
And I thought, yeah, well, he is retired now.
I guess you can just find, you find a world record and then you just do it dressed as Elvis.
Then you just do it as Elvis.
And I remember being like, exactly, but I remember being like,
Holding your breath, dressed as Elvis.
Dressling a crocodile, dressed as Elvis.
And then you're in the book.
But I remember then being like, did you watch this rockadoodle when you were a child?
And is that what planted the seed that you wanted to be an Elvis impersonator in Las Vegas?
And he said yes.
So this movie, no, I did not do the homework, but now I'm like, oh, this has influenced my family's.
Troubousy
Caste because he no longer does that
He's had to declare bankruptcy
But you know
Everybody does that too
Oh no
He gets paid
In gold bars now
From somebody from Russia
But that is
He should hang out with Toby
What's his face
And make music about Bitcoin
Yeah
There you go
But I do think that this had such an influence
Then all of a sudden
Yeah this movie imprints on people
Oh, yeah.
It's kind of...
Great example.
Yeah.
I've been wanting to fuck a mouse ever since.
But, yeah, no, also the music in this movie should not be slept on because it is actually
really good.
It's kind of stupid and childish as it is.
It's Glenn Campbell doing it.
And he is...
I think his most famous song was like a rhinestone cowboy.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
And he was a studio musician.
He was with the wrecking crew.
He was with the beach boys.
He toured with the beach boys for a long time.
Yeah, when Brian Wilson wouldn't go on tour anymore, they brought Glenn Campbell along,
who also, of course, recorded with them as well.
So yeah, he has like a storied history.
Also, a Nashville guy.
Oh, nice.
So there's a Nashville connection to Chanticleer.
So are you saying that he was the voice of Chanticleer or did he write the music?
No, no, he's a voice.
He might have written the music, too.
I don't know, but he was the voice of Chanticleer, yeah.
Wow, he was great.
He was fantastic.
He's so good in this.
Yeah, so Chanticleer, so he's lonely.
They are keeping the other animals away from him,
and that's when, I can't believe, we're just getting to her now.
That's when his evil manager sets him up with Goldie,
who is a bird of some kind.
Yeah.
So Goldie is very hot.
Legend has it that the original cut of this movie,
Goldie had giant jugs because they were trying to make her like Jessica Rabbit.
Test audiences saw it and said no.
So it's like when they had to take out Sonic's teeth.
Remember when they had to just redo that movie because Sonic's teeth were bothering everyone?
That's this with bird tits.
Well, they certainly put what was the tits behind her.
Yeah, she had a great hair.
Yeah, she did.
And a teeny tiny waist and amazing legs.
So it's like you don't necessarily need big tits to be hot and sexy.
That's true.
But they gave her literally every.
You just did a big old bird dumper.
Yeah, they gave her everything else.
And the hair, it's that Sabrina, like, carpenter big hair.
And it's like, oh, it's so great.
I've always said I prefer a thigh over a breast.
You know what I mean?
Oh, hey, make a song out of that.
A little jingle.
Put your beak in my mouth.
I don't know.
Just saying gross shit about a boy.
Put your cock in my beak.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Eat my regurgitated worm.
Stick it in the cloaca.
One hole to rule them all.
One hole to bind them.
Do whatever in the hole.
Anyway.
What's this character?
I don't know.
Who cares?
Yeah.
You just say stuff.
You just say stuff, dude.
Purvy birds.
Purvy birdies.
Anyway, so they, yes, like Elvis, the Chantaclair's manager decides he's got to do movies.
The manager's also directing the movie, I guess.
That's pretty funny.
So it kind of leads to this big chase through the movie studio.
They steal, you know, Colonel Tom's pink Cadillac.
He also has a pink helicopter.
He's pink everything.
This is a very well choreographed, fun, energetic, funny chase.
The like non-blue action stuff is so good.
It is.
But also all of the, I love all of the vehicles.
Like the details on these.
Like the pink Cadillac, was it the trailer?
There was also a trailer that had a pool.
It had a swimming pool on the top of the trailer and everything's very pink and gorgeous.
Like it looks like, you know, what I thought.
that Hollywood would look like.
All the cars would be like that.
But just the little details of living in these kind of vehicles.
Like even the plane, was it a helicopter or whatever?
That thing was so cool too.
Yeah.
The manager has a golf course in the helicopter.
Very funny.
Yeah, this is great.
So they used this kind of stolen helicopter to fly back to the farm where the owl is waiting for them.
The owl, so Chanticleer, I kind of missed.
this, he gets knocked unconscious somehow, I don't know.
So he has to wake up.
So all the other animals have to fight the owl.
The owl's power set is just insane.
It turns into a tornado.
How?
I just can't.
It just turns into a tornado.
It's just nonsense.
But then Chanticleer wakes up, crows.
Wouldn't you know it?
The fucking sun comes out.
Edmund turns from a cat back into a boy.
They think he's dead.
That's kind of traumatic.
Did Edmund die?
We'll reveal it when we come back.
We're back.
It's free with ads.
We're here with Marie-Caseel Anderson.
We're talking about rock-a-doodle.
Okay.
So the animals have fought the owl guy.
He turned into a tornado for some reason.
Chanticleer waked up and crowed.
That brought up the sun.
Killed the owl.
The little boy.
So we see a little cartoon corpse of the boy.
They like lay him out on an altar.
It's very like.
Like Aslan from fucking...
Yeah, yeah.
It's a little bit...
Oh, gosh.
What's that Ariaster movie?
It's a little bit...
Hereditary.
Oh, Mar.
Red So Mar.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
More of that than hereditary.
Not the little boy's heads off.
Yeah.
He saw his own head off.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, this ending really stuck with me.
I had no idea how much.
Because him being dead surrounded by cartoons was...
something that I was like, I think I'd be okay with dying if a bunch of cartoons were there
being sad. Honestly, solid. Yeah, good death. We mentioned like some traumatic movies of our
childhood, Land Before Time, etc. Any, any others come to mind? Does anybody else have the movie
that really luck with them? My girl. My girl. Oh, yeah. You cannot have this discussion without
talking about my girl. He needs his glasses. He can't see without his glasses. That's right. And
And then the bees.
The bees.
He gets killed my bees.
And then weren't you all terrified of bees for like embers?
Yeah.
I was like enough bees kill nerds.
The bees did what the wet bandits could not.
Yeah.
I did want a mood ring really bad after that movie though.
Oh yeah?
Oh, I got one for Christmas this year.
Really?
Yeah.
My mother.
Aw.
Are mood rings back?
They are now, bitch.
Don't call me bitch.
I'm horny.
I wish I had it on.
I'd be like,
it's always like,
you're feeling romantic.
I'm like,
really?
I'm dead inside.
What do you know, ring?
Yeah, what do you know?
Fucking ring.
But what other,
yeah,
what other movies really affected y'all?
Well, I mean,
never ending story has to be in there.
Yes.
A fucking horse getting stuck in the mud.
Well,
also the idea of the nothing
of just people giving up
on the entire universe
not existing anymore.
It's,
So depressing.
Everything about this movie is kind of about depression and being in a bleak place.
Like there's an empress who's like, I don't have a name.
I need this random kid who's reading the book to give me his dead mother's name.
I don't think they make movies like that anymore.
No.
I think they're terrified to like scare children in that way.
Well, also you can't sell them toys based on depression.
I don't know.
Yeah, I guess not.
Did you guys ever see the.
sequel to the Wizard of Oz?
Yes, return to us.
Return to Oz.
That movie fucked. I was like, what is
this nightmare? And why is
this being sold as like
another Wizard of Oz? This is hellish to me.
So that I think was
traumatic. So was
there was like an Alice in Wonderland
Disney TV movie
where she gets stuck in the mirror.
Oh, well there's been a lot of those. So there's like
Ones from the BBC, PBS has done them, and they're all very disturbing.
There's ones with the Jabberwocky, and it's like super.
I think it's from the 70s or something.
Then there was a cartoon, a cartoon movie of Candyland, and there's a giant like
gummy gloop monster.
I would see this, yes.
Yeah, and he's singing a song about needing a sweetheart.
And his mouth was like really weird.
Yeah, his mouth was gooey and disgusting.
thing and he was going to eat you.
And I was just like, fuck you mom and dad.
There's also this movie We're Back that I thought was.
Oh, that movie ruled.
I thought it was a Don Bluth movie, but it's not.
It definitely looks like it.
But it's like dinosaurs come back to like.
BBE, big bluth energy.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's great.
But yeah, it's like dinosaurs.
Furns, he kind of has BBE right.
100%.
100%.
It's got to be a Don Bluth movie.
A little toaster.
Brave little toaster.
Oh, my God.
Braille.
Talk about a sad movie.
Yeah.
Brave little to a toaster.
When the cars were being crushed to death.
Oh, yeah.
Inanimate objects have feelings.
Jesus Christ.
What happened to us?
The blanket's a child.
Yes.
And the blanket, doesn't it, like, die or something?
Yeah, one of them dies.
Fuck this.
It might be.
We got to watch that next.
Oh, but before we, there's like two other things that happened in the movie.
We had this.
Let's save it for the pod moment when we were before we started recording.
Matt, did you show your daughter this movie?
I did not.
I watched it all the way through first.
And I think it was about like, I don't know, as soon as he got turned into a cat and then the owl was trying to eat him, I decided not to.
I tried, listen, she's very sensitive.
Sure.
She's three.
She's your daughter, Matt.
She's going to be delicate.
She's delicate.
I don't want to ruin her the way return to Oz ruined me.
You know what I mean?
I don't want her walking around trying to fuck a mouse.
I want her to be normal.
How old is she?
She's three.
She's three and...
Oh, you got lots of time to fuck her up.
That's what I'm saying.
A lot of crazy shit you can show her.
But no, she couldn't handle the beginning of Zootopia.
Like at the beginning of Zootopia, the bunny gets attacked by a fox.
who slices her face.
Yeah, I had to turn it off too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And she immediately burst into tears.
I was like, no, no, no.
It's okay.
It's okay because she'll overcome it.
She becomes a cop.
I don't know.
Cops are bad, but oh, this is too much, too much.
Yeah, it was too much to explain.
So I was like, all right, let's go back to the fucking wiggles.
Oh, no.
Yeah, life is hell.
Marie has a bunch of nephews, right?
Or do you have a niece as well?
No, two nephews and a godson and a little another baby.
Just in my life.
They're actually in my house right now because nobody has power in Tennessee.
So I do have children downstairs.
Oh, no.
No, they're sleeping.
It's fine.
We have like.
Where are they sleeping?
In my room.
In your room?
Where are you going to sleep?
I'm going to sleep on the futon.
They can all still do their podcasts from your house.
Yeah.
As long as they can podcast.
But yeah, a lot of children.
We watched, what's the trash kids?
Trash kids.
Oh, garbage pale kids.
No, no.
There's a new show called like trash.
Trash kids.
I'm not saying it right.
I don't know.
I was thinking like trash kids would be like what they called garbage pale kids in Japan or something.
The generic one.
But I saw you in a video like playing with your nephew where you put like a yoke
mad at the bottom of the stairs and he just threw a ball to knock it over like from the top of the
stairs I'm like that is a genius game I know we were bowling yeah throwing a ball at my face basically
but yes you're very good aunt thank you uh it's hard yeah in that's basically all that happens
in the movie there's just little like was it a dream moment the kid wakes up it's broad daylight
but they make him stay in bed as emily mentioned kind of a weird fucked up family dynamic but then
And the kid, like, poofs into the cartoon and does a little dance with all the animals.
And they sing about NFTs, NFTs.
You got to get some NFTs.
Financial solvice on its way when you get yourself some NFTs.
Seed oil.
Seed oil.
Yeah.
You know government can seize it.
Yeah.
Rock a doodle, bitch.
Tie your shoes.
Hang it with my homie, R-F-K
I got to admit
Probably, probably
That bit
That beat is
Pretty sick
It's pretty sick
It's not bad
The guy's got a point
Maybe the guy's got a point about it
What boy
Anyway
We're going to rank this movie
But first
Ooh we got to do the hunk watch
It's Hunk Watch
Any thoughts on
the hunks of this film.
I can go first.
I thought the kid's dad was kind of hot.
I know what you did last summer.
Yeah.
I'd love him to kill me with a hook.
I let him terrorize Brandy in the second one.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
I mean, yes.
I mean, you know, Sean Declare and Goldie, obviously.
iconic.
Yeah, it's shot to Claire for me.
I'll be honest.
I was incredibly turned on by the chemistry
between them.
Yeah.
And he had this big chest and like a low,
low cut button down like shirt.
Oh yeah.
And these little,
like tight jeans.
I was like,
Jesus.
And I don't,
and the like,
what's it called the thing on the top of the,
the,
like,
Reuter's head.
The head penis.
Yeah.
The head penis.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chicken scrote.
Combe.
The lid labia.
Whatever the fuck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. But yeah, he definitely did it a lot for me. It was very hot.
Who played the banjo? Was there somebody who played a banjo?
The dog. With no teeth or something? That turned me on.
Yeah.
Anybody who's got a banjo. Anybody with a better.
Literally any man or woman who can play a banjo. I'm turned on.
Yeah, they can be an animal. They can be a horse. It doesn't matter.
I like, I was a peeper's kid.
Yeah.
As a kid, I was all about peepers when she...
Are you attracted to the lift?
Wait, Matthew?
Do you like, you know what it was?
It was, I was like, look, I know, like, I would look in the mirror and I go like,
sorry, buddy, you're not getting Goldie, you know?
Oh.
As a kid, I was, I was okay with, I was like, I could pull peepers.
You had low self-esteem about fictional characters.
About which cartoon would fuck me.
My own fantasies were I was tempering my expectations.
Also, I think that...
The road to happiness, Matthew.
Goldie was, I think, too sexualized for me to be into her.
And the beak kind of freaked me out.
I was like, I'm okay with like the big ears and the tail on the mouse.
But I mean, what are you going to do with that beak?
What that beak do?
Nothing good.
Well, I do think that, you know, shot to Claire's animation with the head to the beak was very...
very seamless and didn't look terrifying.
But hers is like,
it looks like the wax lips that you got on Halloween
that you like, it just is like uncanny.
Like, where is this thing coming from?
I don't know.
Yeah, it was very strange.
Very, very strange.
So yeah, Peepers.
Yeah.
What about you, Marie?
Well, I was asking about the banjo guy.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, she'd fuck that band.
Anyone with her guy.
She didn't watch the movie.
So she's like, is there a banjo?
No, she's right.
There is a guy playing band.
Okay.
I'm having a memory, Emily.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Our kids' movie, they're locked away in our brains.
You access the moment.
Here's a question.
Yes, please.
Because this is, yeah, I didn't watch the movie.
But when the sun turns around, does she have a face?
Or it's not?
Yeah.
I think that's telitubbies.
Yeah.
I'm thinking of a baby.
Does the son have a face in this?
Are you thinking, are you remember?
a hot cartoon sun.
I did do mushrooms at Bonneroo second year and they did have telitubbies there performing with
flaming lips.
So I might have just.
Wow.
Well,
I might be having that memory with Rockadoodle, but there's an animated sun on the raisin brand like box that like, do you know what I'm talking about?
That is it.
It's it.
I knew it.
I knew that.
You all were like, the sun and then in the, I'm like, does the sun have?
Yeah.
Nope, it's from the raisin brand box.
Okay.
You know what?
This is,
and the commercials.
I'm going to work through this
in therapy later,
but this is good.
You want to fuck the son?
Shant-de-Claire.
Basically,
the son is the hottest thing.
I like the kid's dad,
Matt likes Peepers,
and you like the son
from the raisin brand.
Great,
those scoops.
Yo, why don't you scoop me out?
Raisin brand son?
I need to get scoops out.
Scoop on my face.
Yeah,
two scoops of sugar, baby.
She was so pretty.
She was pretty.
Okay.
Now that we've listed our hunks, we're going to rank the movie when we come back.
We're back.
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We're here with Marie, Cecil, Anderson talking about Rockadoodle.
We're going to rank it.
But first, we want to tell you about some stuff going on in the world of free with ads and maximum fun.
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I know M stands for me, but, you know, there's three of us.
fucking figure it out.
We did an AMA to celebrate our 100th episode, 100 episodes of this good podcast.
Yeah.
That's right.
We did a, it was really fun.
If you missed the live stream, you can still watch it on the Maximum Fun YouTube channel.
That's at Max Fun HQ on YouTube.
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Okay.
It's time to rank rockadoodle
on a scale of one to ten
super loud commercials.
Now, Marie, you did not watch the film for this taping, but you do have memories of it.
Can you access your childhood self?
And what would your childhood self give this movie on a scale of one to ten?
I'm going to give it a four.
A four.
A four.
Mainly because, well, I mean, if we're going to compare all the, his other movies, I would think
like Land Before Time, Pete's Dragon.
Is that right?
That's Disney.
Yo, Pete's Dragon is cool.
Crazy.
Pete's bragging, it's crazy.
Another movie that I think is not a Don Bluth, but has B.
I thought it was Don Bluth.
Energy.
No, that's Disney.
He might have worked on it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, because I was on Wikipedia this whole time just trying to cram, cram, cram for this.
And I thought I saw Pete's Dragon.
But, I mean, I think of that era, there might have been a little bit, you know,
eight, ranking eight, nine or tenors out there versus this one.
But yeah, maybe this is the biggest deep cut of like Don Bluth stuff.
Maybe. Yeah, I think it was considered a bomb in its day, but I think, I think like,
but we're talking about it today. We're talking about it today. And I think there's just a certain
generation of sickos and furries. I'm not loving you together. Furries. It's a beautiful community.
No king shame here. Says the brony. Yes, exactly. Thank you. Listen, a brony should not cast stones.
Yeah, a brony may not cast stonies. No, no, no. So yes. Let he who is that said cast the first stony.
say if the Bible.
But yes, I think to a certain kid, this was like a classic.
And it's like stuck around in a way that a lot of other maybe more successful at the time
kids movies did not.
But yes.
But I think you're right.
I think this is maybe not the most popular Bluth.
And definitely, you know, it suffers from the bluth nonsense that some of the other movies do.
It feels like an acid trip.
It does.
Just what y'all have described, and it's like the memory that I'm getting, and I'm like, am I, was I on acid as a child watching this? Probably not.
Yeah, it's kind of like an acid trip, though, if you think about childhood.
It goes to the kid's brain at one point, and you see the synapses of his brain? It's just this like, okay, they just had this idea.
They're like, let's go in the brain. Yeah, I don't know. Right. Well, y'all's description was just perfect, and I'm so sorry, I gave it a four.
You're fine. I wanted to point something out, um, looking at, because we were talking at, because we were talking,
talking about this might be the deep cut of Don Bluth's, you know, like,
Rolodex.
What word am I thinking of?
Filmography.
Catalog.
Rolodex.
I don't know.
I keep all my movies in a Rolodex.
That is definitely a Mike Fleming word that is used a lot.
Okay.
So I think that, you know, Anastasia's got to be the number one, right?
Like that's got to be the one number one.
But there's a movie called Banjo.
and I guess it's about two
Banjo the Woodpile Cat
So if you want to get horny with us again in the future
We've got a movie for you
Banjo the Woodpile cat
But I want to point out in Nashville
There's like this arcade bar that's enormous
I can't remember it was like a huge warehouse
I don't know if it's still around
But I went with people really drunk one night
And they had a video game for Space Ace or Space Age or something
Oh yeah sure
There's some movie.
I've never heard of this fucking movie before, but...
Emily, let me tell you.
We got to go see it.
I know about...
So, so Don Bluth directed Dragons Slayer, which is the arcade game that looked like a cartoon.
And Space Ace was the follow-up to Dragons Slare.
Whoa.
So it's just an arcade game, and it looks awesome, and it was hard and unfun.
Those games are so not fun to play.
They are fucking gorgeous.
Gorgeous.
I've looked, I've watched just on YouTube.
You can see Play-Thrues of a...
them. Dragonsler 2 is the coolest. Anyway, yeah.
Well, we have also talked about maybe one day getting into Twitch and playing some of these movie games.
Oh, yeah. Sure, sure. And I want to do it, but I don't want to play it. I just want to watch you guys do it.
But Don Bluth, whenever he gives an interview now, by the way, he has a sweatshirt that just says Don Bluth on it.
Love him. Whenever he gives an interview, he just talks about bringing back Dragonslare. It's all he wants to do.
He just wants to make another Dragonsler game. So there you go. He's tried to kickstart it a couple times and it has.
hasn't worked.
So we hope,
we hope Don gets to make
the third Dragon's Lard game.
He's still alive?
We're another space ace.
Yeah,
Booth's alive.
Oh, 88.
I'm looking.
Wikipedia.
Honestly, you know, age,
like, my parents are in their
mid-70s and I think they're going to live forever.
I don't know.
It feels like age is different now,
personally.
But,
because also,
I am,
I'm 25.
I'm the,
I'm the 25th-year-old,
40-year-old is what I think.
Emily, you want to rank the movie?
You have a one to ten?
I'm giving it an eight, baby.
I love this movie.
I love it.
It's so beautiful and trippy, and I don't care that it doesn't make sense.
It's just like a ride.
And I feel like there's no stakes in it at all.
There is a story about a bad guy who's trying to, he's not trying to kill him, though.
He's just trying to make sure he stays in show business and doesn't come back to a farm.
Right.
Which sounds like fair.
Like, I don't want to go back to a far.
Like, I'd rather just be a big singer in Las Vegas.
What's wrong with that?
Yeah, the owl just wants what's best for Chanticleer.
I know.
And I think the music is fun.
I love the way it looks.
I had a great time.
And I'm going to try to find out if there is porn of Rockadoodle later tonight.
I find pretty good things.
Just rub it in that you can have porn in other states.
You know, Tennessee, we have it blocked.
No, no, you just have you porn.
blocked.
We have porn hub.
Pornhub is blocked, but XNXX.com and X Hamster are not blocked.
Can you still Google SpongeBob Rule 34?
I don't know what that is, but I'm going to look that up for sure.
Gotta go.
But yeah, you just got to use the different sites.
Okay.
All right.
That makes sense.
I'm just still really sad about Pornhub.
I know.
I know.
Matt, what do you got?
I'm giving this a nine.
Okay.
I loved it.
I rewatched it.
realized that I think I was obsessed with it as a kid.
And it pretty much holds up all the weird shit.
I mean, for a Don Bluth movie, it is probably the most, I don't know, cogent.
Like, it makes just enough sense for an adult to watch it and be like, okay.
And the music in it is so good that it makes me forget that it gave me nightmares when the owl got really big and tried to eat
the pig with the apple in his mouth.
Oh yeah, that was kind of fucked.
I fucking hated that shit.
And also, pigs aren't that small.
Yes, this is what's so weird.
Yeah, the size of everyone changes like crazy.
But yeah, I give it her nine.
Loved it.
What age are you going to let your child see this movie?
Uh, 21 when she has her own apartment.
I'm not watching it with her.
But don't you want, do you think you'll ever host sleepovers for your daughter,
like for her birthday or anything like that?
Yeah, at some point.
This is a sleepover party movie.
By the time she's doing sleepovers,
they're all going to want to watch fucking K-pop demon hunters or something.
Oh, well, that's slap.
So, I mean.
I know.
It slaps.
I guess I need to see it.
They will want to watch a classic movie like K-pop.
Yeah,
that's true.
That'll be like,
let's watch an old classic.
Yeah.
But I do feel like, is she Alpha?
What generation is she?
She's Alpha.
She's Alpha.
So I feel like Alpha is going to be kind of like millennials
where they like old shit.
Like, I have a feeling they're going to like it.
Like, his daughter likes peewee's playhouse.
Yeah, yeah.
She loved that.
I think she's going to be the cool kid that shows her friend.
She likes telitubbies.
She likes weird.
She likes weird shit.
Anything where it is just like, as an adult, you're like, all of these people are
on drugs.
She's into it.
Yeah, I think that she is going to show her friend's labyrinth for the first time.
She's that girl.
Well, I hope so.
Just real quick.
Bluth, still alive, maternal grandfather was Ray Pratt from the Pratt family, and his great
grandfather was Heleman Pratt, who was an early leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, as well as the grandfather of George Romney, the great-grandfather of Mitt Romney.
Don Bluth is a Mormon and a Romney.
Maybe this explains things, question mark?
I think it just makes things more muddled.
Yeah, maybe it does.
I'll go, I'm going to get of a seven.
I also really liked watching this.
It is really, really fun.
Yeah, and it's funny, too.
Like, it has a funny, looney-tunes energy to it.
We didn't even talk about the little owl
with Charles Nelson Riley's voice.
Yeah, just a lot of funny little side characters,
a lot of slapstick, the chases are great.
Hand-drawn animation, you cannot beat it.
It is, yes, it is weird.
It is nonsensical.
But I think it has like little kid dream energy to it in a way that's really fun.
And I think you probably could watch this with a modern kid and they would have a great time.
Because yeah, I had a blast watching it.
I think that we've, you know, I think I liked it more than all dogs go to heaven.
That's for sure.
I did too.
And then I think we maybe like it more than Thumbolina.
I don't know.
I don't remember what my scores were.
Everybody on Reddit go and call me a liar.
I think for me in the Bluth canon, you know, Land Before Time.
Time is goat.
But I think this is a close second for me.
I really liked it.
I thought it was a ton of fun.
All right.
That's our review of Rockadoodle.
Let's do a little plug-in.
Marie, thank you so much for joining us.
You want to tell us a little more about CityCast
and anything else you got going on?
Well, I would love to.
So CityCast Nashville is part of a national network called CityCast.
And so we have, we're just reinvesting in local journalism.
So we have networks in 13 different cities across the nation at this moment.
But then we are hoping to expand to every state in the nation.
Our CEO is David Plotz from Political Gab Fest on Slate.
We're just really, it's a daily show and we're just really investing in local journalism.
Where do you all get your local news?
That's what I'm just curious.
Tennessee Holler is kind of like...
But you live in Los Angeles.
So how are you following your...
local city news. Oh, I don't.
KTLA.
So that's what we're learning is that nobody pays attention to their actual local news.
They're paying more attention to national news.
But you have to be focusing what's happening locally in order to make change within your community.
I feel like the L.A. City Council's just doing whatever and I'm sure whatever they're doing is good.
That's how I felt like.
Probably good.
Probably good. That's how I felt when I was living in New York.
Oh, Gavin Newsom's got it handled.
Yeah. He's the mayor, right?
Yeah.
Daddy news some.
That's cool.
No, you're absolutely right, though.
I think it is incredibly important for people to be like keeping abreast of local news because
without understanding what's going on in your own locality, your own city, your own county,
you're really going to have trouble ahead, especially now more and more local news reporters just don't exist.
court reporters don't exist.
Local newspapers are all doing national news.
So it sounds like what you do is a really great public service.
Thank you.
And we just launched Citicast Twin Cities.
And so what's been happening in Minneapolis, they have been on the ground.
I mean, our reporters have been, you know, pepper sprayed, tear gassed, all that sort of stuff.
They're just up in it and reporting the facts.
That's all that's all journalism is.
We forget that.
It's just the facts.
You say what happened.
You say.
And then people, I mean, I've been accused of fake news when I literally saw something and I then say it on the podcast.
Yeah, but you saw it with your girl eyes.
Yeah.
Why have you said anything about Bitcoin?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So anyway, I just, I hope that people.
About police violence when you haven't talked about Bitcoin.
We'll talk about Bitcoin.
Whatever you want.
But I mean, you talk about important stuff like that.
And then you talk about local bars where you can hook up with people.
with me. That's right. Emily came on our show and talked about like coming home for the holidays
and what bars in town like make you feel like you've been here all along. So we cover all different
things. But especially right now we're just focusing a lot on like metro government, what's
happening. And cats shows. And cat shows. And also cat shows. And cat shows. And the weather, which I also
always have to be like, I don't know what I'm talking about. But not a meteorologist.
I think that you could convince me you are, though.
My mom always wanted me to be a weather girl.
Like in everything, I've done so much.
I'm a musician.
I'm a screenwriter.
I host a podcast.
She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm bringing it back to the whole, you know, talk.
The girl.
That's my mother.
Yeah.
Why don't you be a weather girl?
Just put aside your podcast and be a weather girl, Marie.
Get a nice blazer and point to a screen and you're talking.
us when it's going to rain.
Yeah.
She's going to marry me.
Fun note, her mom is not a hugger, which I didn't know.
And, uh, wasn't that the hard way.
Yes, I did.
I was like, I tried to hug your mom.
And I was like, oh, yeah, no, no.
She was like, does your mom not like me?
And she's like, no, she's just not a hugger.
I'm like, oh, I don't like, this whole not a huger thing is very foreign to me because I
literally like, manhandle everyone.
And your parents, whenever I go to her house, they're always like, come here, Marie.
And I get embraced by.
both. So, sorry my mom doesn't like to touch you. Well, my dad answers the, the door when you come,
when she comes to pick me up for stuff, she always comes to the front door like she's the best
prom date that ever existed. But, um, but my dad will open it and he goes, is that that
that whore? And my mom's like, can you stop? Because of the band. Yes, because of the band.
Reforms. Is that that reformed whore? My mom's like, you need to stop saying that. He's like,
she gets it. I'm like, she does. But the neighbors don't know about her band. They just hear you screaming
about whores.
Well, Citicast, I will tell you, they're like, what?
What have you done?
What were you before this?
And I was like, a whore.
But now I'm reformed and now I tell the news.
There you go, yes.
So tune in to Citicast Nashville every single day.
Plots doesn't Google his employees.
That's right.
Yeah, right.
They don't.
Just kidding.
Emily, you got anything going on?
Well, no.
Okay.
Oh, I do have some exciting little sponsored posts that are coming out on
my Instagram.
Oh, yeah.
You were telling me about this.
Is this something you can talk about?
Yeah, I think so.
Talk about it.
This is kind of cool.
I did just submit all the videos and stuff that I did.
But so maybe they'll go, we hate this.
You're fired.
But just in case, there's this show on the CW called Wildcards that's like a crime detective
procedural about a girl who's a con artist who gets, you know, arrested.
And then she's good at figuring out what criminals do.
So she becomes a.
consultant with this other detective.
And it's really fun and funny.
But they reached out and asked if I would do some promotional posts about it.
And then I got to interview the two stars of the show.
Vanessa Morgan, who's from Riverdale.
Yeah.
Super cool.
And Jacamo Giannati, who I don't know if I said his name correctly, but I hope so.
He's a time.
Cool name.
But I know, he's cool.
So, yeah.
And he's from Grey's Anatomy, like which.
Brad.
You probably recognize it.
But they were super nice.
Wait, you filmed like fun, like little videos and things that we're going to see?
Yeah, little videos and things with my, my new iPad.
I'm so stoked about.
This is what the people want.
I've been telling Emily this.
We want her videos.
I know,
but the thing is I'm like cringe.
Like the more I hear about what like Genzi thinks is cringe, I'm like that is my whole
fucking brand.
It's your whole brand.
And I don't think I can't, I don't think I could be something else because I watch the video.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, this is definitely what they're talking about.
Whatever.
Well, speaking of cringe, I forgot to mention that I'm on the upcoming television show 911 Nashville.
And my episode airs very soon.
Come on.
You gotta get that.
Y'all, the plug section.
This show has been getting crazy.
Worst reviews in history of television.
But they love it.
What are reviewers now?
They don't know.
What do they know?
Well, it's Brian Murphy.
Every single human is a reviewer now.
Yeah, that's true.
Reviewers panned rockadoodle.
And I think we all agree that's a classic film.
Yeah.
That's true.
Okay.
Sounds like.
But it's giving people like a lot of Nashvilleians jobs, which is cool.
It's employing the whole city.
So we're so grateful.
Yep.
Emily, do you, people can just follow you on Instagram to check out these videos from
Yeah.
It's M. Flemoli.
So E M.
F-L-L-E-M-E-E-M-E-M-E-E-M-E-E-M-E-E-M.
I-L-Y. That's my username on Instagram, and it'll be in the stories and on my grid. And then the
interview portion, I had like 10 minutes to interview them. And I was stuttering like crazy. It was
like, I don't know. I also had a technical difficulty. I clicked the wrong buttons and could
figure out what was going on. And I was late. But they were so nice. And they answered very weird
questions that I had for them. So that'll be up to. But yeah, go watch the show.
show actually. It's pretty fun show and there's three like two seasons, season three just
premiered. Hey, I've got some live stuff coming up in the next couple months. Maybe the coolest
one on Thursday, February 26th. I'm going to be hosting a Predator Double Feature at the
Frida Cinema in beautiful Santa Ana, California. It's a great little indie movie theater in Orange
County. I am going to host a Night of Predator movies.
That's the week that Predator Bloodshed.
The comic that I am writing comes out.
I'm going to be selling books, signing books, giving stuff away.
I think we're going to do an Arnold Impression Contest.
Oh, my God.
It's going to be really fun.
This is a great little indie movie theater.
We are showing the original Predator, and then the newest one, Predator Badlands.
Oh, cool.
Starts at 7 o'clock.
One ticket, get you into both movies.
Thefrida Cinema.org.
Thefreedicinema.org.
That is February 26, starts at 7 p.m.
Please come on out.
It's going to be a fun night.
Is there a bar?
Oh, I don't think so.
I don't think so, but you can sneak in some shooters and dump it in deer.
Coke Zero.
Damn it.
You know me too well.
I'm not going to say anything.
And I think I will be wearing my predator tank tops.
Give the people what they want.
You have to.
Okay.
Thank you, Marie.
Thank you for joining us.
I love you guys.
So much fun.
So much.
We love you.
Yeah, I love you.
And we love you, listeners.
And we'll see you next week when our movie will be Ghost 1990.
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