Free With Ads - Rock 'n' Roll High School

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

This week watched the movie that made The Ramones a household name, or at least as close to a household name as a punk rock band could get before getting accused of selling out. We're talking Rock 'n' Roll High School, the 1979 musical comedy about a bunch of teens who really like The Ramones. Tune in next week when our movie will be... Road House (1989) ----- April 18th: Jordan will be at the LA Times Festival of Books, at the Arvida booth at noon! The MaxFun Drive starts next week, but you can join right now by going to this link and becoming a member. https://maximumfun.org/joinfreewithads    

This is free with ads, the podcast that asked the question, why pay Amazon $15 bucks a month for a bunch of teen angst movies when you can go online for free and watch a teen angst movie that's far superior because of its slowly heightening jokes about exploding mice? I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is Rock and Roll High School, a film which is 30% plot, 70% songs by the Ramones,

which is why it's basically the godfather if you're 13-year-old with attention span issues. With us, as always, is the super producer, The Gabba Ghabi freak hitting us with those Blitzkrieg drops. Rocky Role McDonald's! Do you know when I was in college, this was the thing. It was like this and cake farts is what everybody showed me. Cake farts was huge.

There was also, what was the one with the, was it Lemon Party with the swinging penis? Yeah, well, no, it was you spin me right, wow, baby. That one JPEG of it doing that. Remember when the internet was good? Yeah, when it was just Tub Girl. Goatsy. We were just gaping assholes and old men blowing each other. Yeah.

Now look what it. Now look what it is. It's a mess. I'm about to turn 40 and I've never farted on a cake. Neither of. Maybe it's my time. Yeah. But wouldn't it bum you out to find out that that's what you're...

Sorry. What? That's what you're into? Nah. If you're just like, I'm going to do this as a joke and you're like, oh no, I loved it. Yeah. But then you wasted 40 years of your life not farting on. And cakes.

And cakes. But I wasted a cake. I mean, also, you could have gone your whole life without figuring it out. That's true. That's true. I think I, I think the, the cake farts thing is interesting because I think there's better things to fart on. Yeah.

Jello. This is for the younger, for the younger listeners. This is like one of the first viral videos that I was aware of. Yeah. Or the first memes or whatever. I love the idea that we have younger viewers. Yeah. That would be amazing.

If there's just like some Gen Z kid out there, he's like eight, years old. Dude, we love to know. I know. Hey, listen, if you're out there and you're Gen Z, give us an email, free with ads at gmail.com.

We'll call your parents and say, pick them up. Tug girl. It was, so it was, it was like attractive women farting on cakes, right? Sure.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't even remember the attractiveness. I just remember the cake farting. I do too, and I remember thinking it was hilarious, but I was like,

somebody's really into this, and I don't get it. Listen, if she's farting on a cake, she's beautiful to me. Oh, yeah. I love that. Thank you. If you can't handle me at my cake fart, you don't deserve me at my tub girl.

If you don't want me at my two girls, you don't deserve me at my one cup. Was two girls one cup? Was that in the early 2000s? That was a little bit later. That was after. That was almost like, that was it. I feel like it peaked with that. People are like, I think we're done with this.

Yeah, people are like, you know what, let's just go to Nazi forums. Yeah. That's it. Yep, that was it. Yeah, let's harass female video game journalists and become Nazis. Because we were too grossed out by someone eating fake poop. Hey, yeah, okay, the internet. It was fun once.

And movies, they've always been fun. Hell yeah. But before we talk about this movie, Rock and Roll High School, which is, as of this recording, streaming free with ads, we're going to talk about something else we saw for free on the internet this week. So, in this movie, In this portion of the show, we usually just talk about things that the Ninja Turtles have done. And today is no exception.

I think all of our algorithms have kind of converged a little bit and agreed, like, these weirdos want to see Ninja Turtle stuff. I want to see a Ninja Turtle fart on a cake. That would be fun. Or a pizza. That would be. Oh. What is a pizza but a cake you eat for dinner?

Or a Ninja Turtle stretching out his asshole. Cake thoughts in the evening. Cake thoughts in the moment. Cake fights at supper time. Anyways. So I'm now disappointed this video we're about to play is not a Ninja Turtle farting on a cake, but it's the next best thing.

Okay, this is something my algorithm gave me. I think a couple weeks ago, months ago, we played something from a Ninja Turtle's VHS where they were singing Christmas songs. Right, but with Jamaican accents. Yes, potentially cancelable Jamaican accents. And one of the Christmas songs was deck the halls with pepperoni. Yes.

So I think this is from that same video or at least that same series. It clearly ripped from a VHS tape. It is a song about not talking to strangers. The video starts with a bunch of kids of every race, walking around in the park. They stopped to pet a dog. They are attacked by a man in a spirit Halloween ninja costume. And then the turtles appear and sing this song.

A stranger says your mom asked me to pick you us. He should know it too. If he doesn't know it, some harm you come. Don't talk to strangers. Oh, shit. Yeah. You never know. Don't talk to strangers.

No, no, no. No Jamaican stuff. Bomba russ clot. Wow, that was still actually a really good song despite the lack of Jamaican stuff. That was great. I know. But I like that they didn't even like try. And the guy who's singing that song,

they don't even make him try and sound like one of the turtles. No. He just has like a beautiful Rick Springfield voice. Yeah. It's just nice to hear. Yeah. Well, they didn't even try to make it sound like the turtles when they were doing Rasta. No, that's true.

That's true. That would have been worse or better. But I assure you that was the Ninja Turtles. No, yeah, it was. For those who, well, all of you who are. Wait, did you guys have code words with your parents about strangers? No, never did. But yeah, I remember that as like.

the consummate tip. Like every time you would get a little McGruff comic or something. It's like half the code word. I didn't remember that at all. That's a smart idea. I guess without. We should have a code word on this podcast.

Yeah. Cake farts. I mean, easily. Well, now everyone knows our code word. So Emily, if a stranger comes up and says, it's time to record a podcast.

Just have him say the code word. Yeah, they'll all know. But they say to have a code word with your family for, you know, AI voice. Oh, yeah.

I think that's real, though. I feel like I am going to do that. I think I might do it with like my aunt and uncle has one code word. My parents has one and my sister has one. My parents will get took 100%. Yeah. They don't even know what I sound like anymore. So they're going to just hear some guy in a Jamaican accent.

Oh, no. Matt, do you want to deck the halls with pepperoni? Matt just called. He said, Irminow. Praise B to jaw? Who's jaw? He said I and I have been kidnapped. Well, I mean, like, if someone tried to create an AI voice of us and call our parents, it would just be like, cake farts?

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Fingered and high school. Yep, that's my daughter. Rock, rock, rock in my butt hole. And because it's AI, it would be six fingers. Yes. Oh, that's right.

That's right. Fingering story. Which that one we needed to do, because. Because somebody mentioned on Reddit that we talked about light as a feather stiff as a board, which is technically a fingering story. Oh. It's it. So, well, you have your fingers out and you like, you levitate people. It does involve the fingers.

So that also counted for Ouija. Wait, so we were running at a deficit of fingering story stings? Yes, we were. I think we always are. I just played ten times in a row. Yeah, I feel like I've been fired. I know. You're doing great there.

Thank you. All right. Let's talk about rock and roll high school. Shall we? Had anybody seen this going into? I had not. Okay. I had heard of it. Yes. I've seen it a million times. Okay. Really? Yeah, I think before, so there is a sequel to this. Rock and Roll High School forever starring Corey Feldman. Okay, okay. It's like in the early 90s, so it's a little more about like metal. And I remember it from Comedy Central. And then I figured out somehow like, oh, there's another one of these, but the Ramones are in it. And I flipped out. And, uh, yeah. Oh, interesting. So you. So you. You saw the sequel first.

I did, yeah. That's like me and Weekend at Burnies. Oh, yeah, there you go. Wait, what do you mean? Well, I thought Weekend at Burnies was about a dead man who had been revived by Jamaican steel drum. Right. And because, you know, in Part Two, he walks around. And dances.

I did not know there was a part two. Voodoo Magic. Yeah, voodoo magic makes him dance. I've never seen Weekend at Burnies, by the way. I had only seen the second one. So when I watched the first one, I was like, oh, this makes way more sense and is way, less cocaineing. Interesting.

My one of these, I think I've mentioned this on the show. I saw Gremlins two nine times before I saw Gremlin. Oh, I have one actually. I saw never-ending story too before never-ending story. Jonathan Brandis, R-I-P,

ultimate hunk watch for me as a young girl. A sidekick to the end. Yeah, haughty. All right, no, I am excited to hear what you guys think of this movie. You know, and I also want to say that you, I think accidentally, or maybe on purpose, picked a great other free stuff because as I was watching this, your kids got kidnapped.

My kids got kidnapped. No, I realized that the Ninja Turtles and the Ramones are very similar. What? Okay. Let's hear it. There's four of them. There's four of them. They're always eating pizza.

One of them is dead. How many of them are dead? I think three of the Ramones are dead. Oh, yeah. That's almost all of them. Yeah. And so they're always eating pizza. there's four of them.

They all have different personalities. They're all kind of brothers. And they all kind of, they had that, you know, rude attitude thing that was so popular with the kids in the 80s. Right. And depending on which turtles you're getting,

I mean, I think, I think the Jude turtles were a kind of turtle, but also you got the New York guy tootiles too and that way. Kind of the Ramones. This guy. That's what I'm saying. So as I was watching it,

I was like, oh, yeah, this is sort of. of like ninja turtles without the you know karate right um well yeah our our tail opens at uh vince lombardi high school that's right you know it's a square ass high school because it's named after a football coach i think you know what i was really hoping one of you guys would know i think so i assume football coach i think it was shorthand for like this town is square yeah they like love you know yeah yeah football coach okay uh we all just googled it at the same time yeah that's a fucking nerds. Well, I just assumed it was in Los Angeles and it was just some Los Angeles school.

Oh, yeah. But yeah. So yeah, it's shorthand for like, this is very suburban. This is their hero, this football coach. Right. So it's the first day, first day of school. Kids are looking around, looking for their classes. There's a nerdy kid looking at a big map with an R you are here X and he looks down and there's an actual X on his feet. I'm like, this is the kind of joke I want. Thank you movie. This is a. Exactly. I don't want any other kind of joke. Just do a bunch of these. So I'm already like, all right, here we go.

This guy is apparently a freshman. Let's do this early. We've got to talk about oldest teen. Jesus Christ. Oldest teen. This guy's close. I think there's a better oldest teen in this movie, but this guy who is apparently the freshman is four feet taller than everybody else.

As a five o'clock shadow. Well, there's a character that I'm not. sure if he's supposed to be a teen or not. Okay. And it's Ron Howard's brother. Oh, right, Clint Howard. Is he supposed to be a teen? He is supposed to be a teen.

He is balding. Yeah. It's crazy how early he was balding. Yeah. Yeah. That is insane. I just don't believe. I feel like he's like some old guy who works out of the basement of the high school.

I'm so confused. Yeah. I think he's supposed to be. But I think you're, I don't think they ever say. No, because this movie kind of takes. place half in reality, half in fantasy land. And he is supposed to be a sex coach. I think he's supposed to be.

He's supposed to be the guy. I think he's supposed to be like the kid at school who can get anything. Yeah, the fixer. He can get you, fake ID, you can get your booze. You can get you your first touchdown. Yeah. Football player. You're like, how do the fuck does he do that?

He's like read from Shawshank Redemption. Ah. He's the guy who can get you things. Yeah. I will say that another candidate for oldest teen is our lead. Yes. Riff Randall, she was actually 29. Oh yeah, she's

older than all the Ramones in this. And I got to say, like, okay, so I don't know why this makes me so angry. She just looks like like a 50-year-old mom who put pigtails on her head and is having a delusional mental breakdown.

100%. Very midlife crisis coded. Like, it's the dancing is the craziest old person dancing I've ever seen. The fact that the Ramones allowed her to just what, hipty hop around them and dance. And it's like, this is the least rock and roll. We're all just supposed to believe this person is cool.

Yeah. And she looks like the biggest nerd. And the oldest woman I've ever seen, I can't stand it. There's no choreography in this movie. Oh, Lord. I mean, I think this whole thing, it's a Roger Corman movie. So part of those are they're supposed to be very cheap. He tried to make the cheapest movies he ever could.

And so, yeah, there's no choreography in this music movie. And wasn't this also directed by the Gremlin's guy? It is co-directed by Joe Dante. Right. I think he directed some stuff in this movie, and I think he co-wrote it. Okay. This is before Gremlins.

I think Roger Corman, good eye for talent. Sure. That's the story about that guy. So, yeah, I think he discovered a young Joe Dante. Yeah, I kept looking up who her parents were and, like, why is she in this? Like, I kept trying to figure out the casting because it made no sense to me. Every other girl in the thing. Wait, did you think she was a nepo baby or something?

She had to be. PJ Soul. What other reason is she in this movie? It makes, it's such a miscast. So I love her. This is like one of my all-time crushes. Well, she's a scream queen. Yeah, she's in Halloween.

Yeah, and she's in Carrie. Uh-huh. And she's in a bunch of stuff. Like, she's not a bad actress. This is just a very miscast. Sure. Yeah, I think her oldness. I do love her as, like, the coolest girl in school.

But I have a, I have a, like, crazy emotional attachment to this movie, so I cannot objectively view. Okay, I understand. But yeah, she is one of my favorites. Riff Randall. Hell, yeah. It's just giving, if you watch Twin Peaks, there's a character in it who is an older woman who gets like a,

I forget, like an injury and then she thinks she's in high school. Yeah, sure. It's giving that. And you kind of wonder a little bit, yeah, is that going to be like she doing a, you know, a, I'm going undercover in high school and writing a story about it type thing. Yeah, is this like a brain aneurism, make a wish, 50 year old woman situation? Like, sorry, I just had a hard time. Yeah.

How dare you? Can you cue up Eddie Redmayne? I know. And it may be because I'm very bitter because I'm turning 40 and I've never been in a fucking movie. And that's why I'm angry. I'm like, why do you get to be in this movie?

Put Emily in a high school movie. Yeah, God damn it. Hey, directors, Hollywood directors, I know you listen to this podcast. Why? Who knows? We know you're out there, Christopher Nolan. That's right.

We know you're out there. Put Emily in one of your movies. Put her in the movie. Yeah, put pigtails in my hair and have me kind of dance. So we're kind of meeting a bunch of the kids who go to the school. We have, I believe, Kate. She is a nerdy science fair kid. And you know this because she is doing a science project on the lawn by herself and no one else is doing it.

She just has a science fair setup out there. That's like a great shorthand for like, this is the nerd. and she is madly in love with what is this guy's name? Tom Tom he is a just normal ass dude blonde guy blonde guy hot hot blonde guy who is a jock

who's a jock and also not really the villain of the movie yeah which is for me I was like okay it was an interesting character this movie has like surprises in it because you think you know what it's going to be and I think it has it's more interesting than it should be

Right. I think it's because John Hughes also was like later. You know, this is 1979. Yeah. So like a lot of those tropes maybe weren't around yet. There wasn't a karate kid yet. So there was no cobra kid. Right. Well, Greeks existed already though. Sure. So like the the rock and roll kind of, I don't know. For sure. But I'm just like, when I saw this character, I was like, here he is. Here's the guy we're supposed to hate. Right. And then instead he's kind of awkward and not good with women. And I was like, oh, I kind of, how refreshing. Yeah. I know, and his thing is he's constantly, when he talks to women, he constantly talks about the weather. That's his running joke. And, okay, so this is the school, and they've brought in a new principal to get these fucking kids in line. Smoke show.

It is Miss Togar. She is about as old as all the students. That's right. I know. They just kind of dress her frumpy, and she's a little Nazi kind of. And listen, that frumpiness ain't hiding nothing. She's gorgeous.

Yeah, she is great. I don't care how, you know, Nazi-coated her hair buns are. Is that what it is? Oh, 100%. Especially at the end of the movie when they enact the final solution. Yeah.

She's like, here's the final solution. Yeah. And it's just a burning records. She's doing, oh, that's right. And then she's doing experiments on rats. Yeah, yeah. So she's very Nazi-coded, but I have to admit, I was just like,

Rha-R. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Al-UGA. Hello. Oh, I bet she could make, oh, she's making the trains run on time. Exactly. So, yeah, so this school, everybody's crazy.

Riff Randall, she's a rock and roller. She's always carrying around a little tape recorder and bopping around to it. And it is very clear that whatever music they have her listening to in the headphones, different. She does not know what the song is. No rhythm. Yeah, going for it. At first I was like, well, they are white.

And then I'm like, no, whatever she's listening to is not the same tempo as whatever. Well, she dances the same way when she's walking down a hallway with the Ramon singing her song. That's true. That's true. I don't know. You're right. But she has headphones on at some point. She's kind of doing the same dance, too. It's true. Yeah.

So the new principal, Miss Togar, she's very mad at Riff Randall for, you know, blasting this dang rock music all over school. And she says, this is going to go on your permanent record. Yeah. Did anyone know what their permanent record was like? I have something. Did you see your permanent record as a kid? No, but I know there was one thing on it. And it was the time I got handcuffed in the eighth grade for wearing a red bandana to school.

Oh. Is that a permanent record or is that called a criminal record? No. It was, so there were photos. I found out about this because like, I guess my mom had it in a file. I can't remember. But there are photos of my locker. because when I got in trouble, they, like, pulled me out of class, gutted my locker, read a diary that I had in there where, because I was kind of a bummed out, like, like, had to go to, I was a little bit into self-harm stuff in middle school. Let's be real. I was in my goth faith.

Sure, sure, sure, sure. But I had a notebook that a psychiatrist told me to write my most angsty feelings in. Oh, no. And then, you know, like, close it. And then all your feelings are out and that kind of thing. I may have said that I wish my volleyball coach was dead. Okay. Okay. And you got in trouble for that? Well, I said I wanted to kill her. That's what that was. I feel like it's crazy.

We expect kids to not want to kill their volleyball. Right. But it was zero tolerance policy, like after a Columbine. That's right. That's right. So I wore that red bandana headband to school and I got pulled out of class. They gutted my locker and went through everything, read that. the reason I got handcuffed is because I threw this tantrum that it was like uh you know that kind of crying thing and I was like screaming in the hallway and I couldn't be consoled because they were breaking into your locker well because I'm reading it or fucking diary yeah so they're in my locker I had to switch lockers because they gave me a bottom locker and I can't get in my head smacked because I'm the tallest kid in my class but inside somebody had done a bunch of anarchy tags in the one I got moved to

And you got in trouble for someone else's. They thought that I had tagged inside of there a bunch of stuff. And it lined up with the profile they had created. So the photos of my locker and the photos of my diary were in my permanent record up to all the way through high school. By the way, I just Googled it. Yes, a permanent record is real. Okay. But it is not a single omnisusit, detailing every minor fraction from kindergarten.

No. It is a cumulative educational record containing formal data like grades, attendance, standardized test scores, and major disciplinary actions like suspensions. So it is a real thing. I would love to see my permanent record. Yeah. Well, I wonder if you could find it. But it was, so that was in there because I did get suspended for the day.

Sure. But there were photos and stuff of the locker. They might still be in a file cabinet. My mom has it. Oh, that's cute. Post it. Post it. You got to scan it.

Scan the permanent record. I'll call my mom be like, do you have the photos of the inside of my locker? I don't think we should look at my notebook. I really want to read the notebook. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. So, you know, she's threatening riff Randall with a blight on the old permanent record.

And so yeah. But she doesn't care. She doesn't give a fuck. At gym class, they're making them listen to this boring class. classical music while they do calisthenics, and then the teacher leaves, and Rift puts on her song that she is writing for the Ramones, the titular song of the movie,

Rock and Roll High School. So this is like hers is actually the actress singing at PJ Souls. But is this a song by the Ramones? It is, yeah. I think they, you know, they like read, I think it was for this movie. It kind of appeared on other albums later on, but it was for the movie.

Right. I don't know if, like, I guess I don't know specifically if the Ramones wrote it. They didn't write some of their songs. Really? Yeah, they wrote most of it. They have a lot of covers. Bruce Springsteen wrote one.

Really? Yeah, I know. That's really cool. They're one of those bands that I never got into. And then I watched this movie and I was like, why did I never get into them? I love this music. But that's me in particular. Like, I felt like if I had one huge criticism is they should have asked the misfits first.

Oh, shit. That would be funny. Just these huge muscle guys showing. up in monster makeup and all these teenagers going, ah! I mean, would it be weirder than them freaking out over these psychotic looking guys in leather?

Not that much weird. Honestly, not that different. Very similar. I guess I never really listened to them either. And as a younger person, you saw Ramon's T-shirts and I thought they were a lot more like death metal hardcore in my brain. And now I'm listening to it and I'm like,

oh, this is like just cute. Yeah, I think they were obsessed with like 50s music. Right. I think they thought, they didn't think they were making punk rock. They thought they were the Beatles. Right.

They just look like that. Yeah, they just look like that. And they kind of like accidentally invented a genre, you know. Very cool. I mean, it's one of the coolest graves

at Hollywood Forever Cemetery. Oh, yeah, sure. Which one, okay, I don't know. Johnny's in the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. Who's the super tall one? That's Joey. This movie's easily tallest guy. Oh, easily.

Here it is. Tall is guy. Wait, how tall was he? I want to find out. Famously tall. He's got that Matt Lieb posture. They're all weird looking. He is the weirdest looking amongst them.

Oh, clearly. And yeah, it is very funny. But I bet girls love that. Have, like, yeah, a girl swoon over this guy who is very strange. Very ugly. And it's kind of one of the reasons why he, I don't know, he's magnetic because of his weird looking mouth.

Yeah. And just like every, you know, from the glasses to the stringy hair. Maybe it's like kiss, like kind of thing. Like those guys look hot with the makeup on. Like he's got bangs and sunglasses. Right, exactly. He's covering most of his face.

Yeah. But yeah, and I've seen quite a few Ramones' documentaries. And I think everybody says that Joey was like the sweetest guy. Johnny was kind of an asshole and kind of a, like, weirdly conservative. He's like the world's first conservative punk rock guy. But yeah, you know, everyone just talks about how. Sweeten. Wonderful Joey was.

Wait, were they New York or New Jersey? They were New York. See, the misfits were New Jersey. Yeah, yeah. See, but they're both Italian. You know what I mean? Right, yeah.

Oh. The misfits were Italian, and so were the Ramones. But there were just, one was New York Italian, one was New Jersey Italian. And never the Twain shall meet. So I think there was a minute in this movie where the band was going to be Devo. And there was another minute where it was going to be Van Halen. Two very different movies

Bullet dodged Yeah I don't know I love me Van Halen dude Not me I can't stand that I've grown to

I hated Van Halen as a kid But I've grown to like them now I can't They're fun Tomorrow night I'm doing so I'm doing three different birthday things Yeah birthday month

Yeah Jordan came to my The MySpace prom Right yeah yeah I missed it Oh that's okay It was like fine We had a good time David Hill showed up from Mythical.

If you guys are mythical fans, David Hill, the thing about people don't know about David Hill, mythical fans, he was super funny on Mythical. He dances like a mofo. He's like a rave guy. He also was a Hollywood Horror Night's performer. That's right.

Oh, wow. Scaracter. The W.W.E. House. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. But yeah, he and I got down after you guys left. Check it out. It was so fun. So tomorrow night I'm doing a,

karaoke competition. Okay. And I think Van Halen's got to go in there. Sure, yeah. Van Halen has really grown on me. I think it's because I lived in Pasadena for a while, and Van Halen is like the favorite thing that ever came out of Pasadena. So I kind of like got attached to them.

I didn't know they were a Pasadena thing. Yeah, there's like a Van Halen Memorial basketball gym or something like that. Wait, did Eddie Van Halen die? No, I don't think so. They're just the band sucks now. Fair enough. It's a memorial for remembering what the band was good, which was never. Oh, boy.

I mean, hot for teacher would have worked for this principal. Oh, yeah. Dog shit, song. I hate you. Matt, teachers are, teacher, I think teachers are hot because of how they. I'm hot for all teachers. I respect teachers. I just don't like Ben Healy.

Okay, fine, fine. So, so yeah, so we have all this is going on. She's trying to get the kids not to play rock and roll. This is when we meet the Clint Howard character, Eagle Bauer, great name. Whoa, I didn't remember the name. That's amazing. So, yeah, he has an office in the boys' restroom. And yeah, he's the guy who can get you stuff.

So Tom goes to him and says he wants a date with Riff Randall, but then Eagle Bauer kind of knows what's going on. And he's like, well, I'll try and get you a date with Kate. So there's a kind of a love triangle thing going on. Riff Randall only cares about the Ramones. Tom loves her. Kate loves Tom. Who will end up with who?

We'll have to see. Yeah. So Riff goes to stand in line for tickets to a Ramon's concert. For three days. Did you guys ever stand in line for tickets to something? That was such a fucking plot in sitcoms. Yeah, it was. Everyone stood in line for something.

Have you? No, I don't think I ever stood in line for anything either. I never did. I stood in line for Phantom Menace tickets. Oh, me. You know what? Me too. Oh, no.

But I did not. No, I never was standing in line to see. the show tonight No, that's a good band. Hell yeah. Better than Van Ayl? Way better than Ben. Okay.

Oh, boo. But yeah. Ben Hylent didn't have flea. So that's right. You know what? They don't have flea. They had fleas. I'm sure they did.

Disgusting band. Terrible pews. The Ramones pull up in a convertible. And so, yeah, they're, you know, they're always badly panamiming their songs and this. the instruments are not plugged in. They don't care. I kind of like how little fucks the movie gives about this.

It's like a real fun, like maybe they just, everyone just made this movie by themselves, you know. So yeah, they pull up. The car is driven by Matt, do you remember Rodney on the Rock growing up? Oh my God, yes. Rodney on the Rock, a famous L.A. Radio DJ is driving the car. He had the weirdest voice. This was his voice. Welcome to Rodney on the Rock.

Not only was his... 106.7K. Rock. When Rodney on the Rock would start, I believe it was, was it a weekly show or was it daily? Was it daily? Maybe it was late at night. It was after Love Line. It was after Love Line.

And the Rodney on the Rock theme song was like 10 minutes long. Yeah. Rodney on the Rock. Yeah, it just kept going and going. So that was Rodney on the Rock driving the car. Wait, wait, wait. So Love Line was a radio show? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So I think it originated here in L.A. It was a K-Rock thing. I just remember the. The MTV show. Yeah, started his radio show. No, it was a radio show. I grew up on that shit.

I'm surprised that guy's not in Trump's cabinet. Well, what are you talking about? Dr. Drew certainly is. I listen to Love Line every night from like fifth grade till 11th grade. And I'm pretty sure that both Adam Carolla and Drew Pinsky are fine. They're both fine and their politics are good. They're both good. Well, Dr. Drew did that whole celebrity rehab thing.

Yeah, it was the beginning of the end. Which is pretty dicey as hell. So, yeah, I guess I thought Dr. Oz, Dr. Drew, they got to be buds. They got to be. I think I just hanging out, drinking horse dewormer. Yeah, it's like I guess Dr. Drew kind of disappeared. He was everywhere for a while. I think he is a conservative piece of shit now.

Just like Adam Carolla. Just like Adam Carolla. I hope he got some less tiny little Benjamin Franklin looking glasses. I know. I think his glasses are even tinier. I think the more conservative. conservative you get the tiny of your glasses I'll say this for

Adam Carolla. At least he's at least he was funny. Dr. Drew, you're supposed to help people. What's wrong? Anyway, sure. So yeah, so Riff Randall, she's got a kind of a rival there, a groupie named Angel Dust. Pretty cool. Yep, pretty cool. Riff's

first in line. She buys she just buys a thousand tickets. Insane. It doesn't say how she affords them. A hundred tickets, but it was $1,000. Oh, right. Okay, was that it? I was like, how much are tickets in this time period? How do these kids have this money? And then I was like, okay, 100 times 10.

That's a thousand. So they were $10 each. You did great math. That's my ACT question in rock and roll high school. She bought. If Riff Randall is buying 100 concert tickets and a train leaves the station at 532. So yeah, so she goes home. She's got the tickets.

She's in bed, smoking a joint. And this is where we get this dream sequence That hasn't aged great She's you know Dream of the Ramones coming in through her window Singing to her being generally creepy Again she's actually older than them Exactly but playing a high school kid

So you know this is a little weird There is unfortunately a great joke Where she goes in the shower And Didi is in there playing the bass in all of his clothes So you know things are complicated That's right things are complicated There's a more complicated time What are you going to do?

There's a gray area Exactly you got to separate Separate art from the art. You have to, yes. Exactly. Do you guys remember your dreams? Something could be problematic and then also really funny. That's right.

Do you guys remember your dreams often? Maybe like one or two a week. Very rarely now. Mine's every night now. I hate it. You remember every dream? Well, lately. I think it's just like the whole turning 40 and stuff.

Oh, so your dreams are all the same. It's the grave. Well, no, it's all anxiety stuff about failure. That's the same as the grave. Mine's just the cat getting out. And my dreams the cat gets out. The cat got out. That's a great.

Bug ain't getting far, though. That's a great green. No, no, no. She needs to come home for her many, many medications. Oh, no. How many medications is bug on? She's like five now. Oh, shit.

And I'm happy to administer all of them. Yeah, because she's so cute. You mentioned something about syringes. Is she having to get, like, fluids? She has subcutaneous fluids because her kidneys are bad. So it gets a little, but gets a little kidney booster every night. Does it have to go in the scruff of her neck? It does, yeah.

I cat sat for someone. and had to do that. Oh, really? Wow, that's quite a, that's quite a cat sitting here. We had to, like, practice it quite a bit. I don't know that anybody, I don't know that I could get anybody to do that for a I could do it. Okay, all right.

I've learned. Bug's not much of a squirmer, right? She's mean sometimes. I don't know. Maybe she would, maybe she would do it. Yeah. I thought that was just her face. But yeah, I know.

She's got a cranky little, cranky little face. But yes, happy to give Bug whatever she needs. no matter how expensive it is. Okay. So, yeah, so we get this dream sequence. Eagle Bauer and Tom are figuring out how to, like, get Riff Randall and Kate to come over. Eagle Bauer gets him this cool airbrushed van with all this cool stuff in it, and he, like, calls them from the van and tries to get them to come over to it.

Riff Randall doesn't remember him because she doesn't give a fuck about him. He's like, hi, I'm Tom. I talk about the weather a lot. And she, any good joke. It's a great joke. Oh wait, but before this, there's like a,

with Kate and him, there's like this training session about dating. Oh, yeah. So he, so they, they try and get them together by saying, you're training for a date. And he, like, teaches him how to, like,

make out and how to get off a bra. Yeah. Which is what, were you more stressed out about anything growing up than how will I ever get off a bra? Yeah. That was all, all jokes.

were about how hard a bra will. I'll be honest. I don't really give a fuck. Like, I think I always took off the bra for someone. Right. Because it's sexier to reveal it the way I want to reveal it than someone just snapping it off. It kind of clumsily falling down your arms.

That's not as hot. I practiced this so much. You got the one arm. Did you have your sister's bra? Yeah, you had a sister went up to make-out point. I just, what I meant was you had bras. In the house. I do have a twin sister.

Of course of all, she is my step sister. Right. Second of all, she's... I was helping her out of the washing machine. She's stuck in the... But no, I... Yes, okay, so there were bras laying around in my home. And yes, I practice.

And yes, to this day, I can do it in under 0.5 seconds. But can you do with one hand? One hand. Me too. I can't even do it on myself with one hand. I learned from... Maxim magazine. Oh, really?

A little tutorial infographic. And they told you to pinch between your thumb and your four finger. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. My bra has four hooks. Wow. So good luck with that one-handed nonsense.

You're going to have to get more hands. Get that AI hand in there. I can have to get a Dr. Octopus rig. I can do it. I can do pretty much any braw. I'll bring one of my bras here and hook it around something. You watch. Hook it around something.

I will do it. All right. All done. So one of the experiments the principal has been performing to prove how bad rock and roll is. We've been playing it for mice. There's a little thing where they're like, who we played this mouse, you know, 10 hours of rock and roll music. And there's a card with a mouse and a little leather jacket. That's funny.

And then they start exploding in their tank, right? So we get to the actual Ramon's concert. The whole school was there because Riff Randall gave them all tickets. And they're like nerdy music teachers there too. That's cute. That guy was cool. So yeah, so they're all like waiting in line and all these kind of weird people are coming into the concert.

And then a giant mouse, a giant, a pretty good suit, the like most expensive thing in this movie. Definitely. In this cheap-ass movie, this very beautiful anthropomorphic mouse comes up. And the Bouncher says, we don't let mice in here. They've been exploding all over the place. It's the greatest like throwaway line delivery probably from a non-actor. Right.

Anyway, I really love that. It was great. And because it was the whole budget for that one bit. Or they had it from another movie or something. Maybe it was that too. And they're like, oh, we got this mouse suit. I like to think that they just spent the whole budget on the mouse suit just to do that. They're like, we can't get Van Halen.

We have to go to the remotes. We're going to Ramones. But they're doing it for pizza. Yeah. Well, I'd love to know, because this was a suggested movie by some fans on Reddit and past. So if you are an expert about rock and roll high school, please put things about this mouse. costume in the comment somewhere. Let us know where we can get it. I wonder if we can bid on it on that one website where you can get the giant rhinoceros shit. I wonder. I wonder what the giant mouse is going for.

Do you think the furries would like this costume or is it too realistic? That's a great question. I know the furries have like a specific aesthetic. It's like mascot level. Yeah, I know. And it's kind of like anime eyes a little bit. Massgot meets Sonic the Hedgehog stuff. Yeah. I mean, I've I've talked about this before, but I would want to be a red panda or like a white fox. It'd be fun. Either way. Yeah. And just wear the head.

Yeah. I'll do pretty much anything. And then a bra with 10 hooks. I'll put on whatever head you want. I don't care. I'll dress like whatever. So then we get roughly a 40-minute Ramones concert. And it's fucking great.

I just like, you know, again, how much do you like the Ramones that will, you know, inform how much you like this movie is someone who, like, loves them? I'm just like, oh, yeah, fucking great. So yeah, and everybody's rocking out, great vibes. And then kind of Kate and Riff Randall are doing this thing trying to get their song, trying to get her song, rock and roll high school, to the Ramones so they can record it. I love the idea that she's written it on.

Sheet music. As if the remotes can read sheet. Yes, exactly. These guys can have ever used sheet music. Oh, is this any E-flat Phrygian? My dad was explaining to me that like session musicians have like a number system. Number.

It's like, I don't know. I'll get him to explain it to me when we're driving up to the Madonna in for my birthday. I'd love to hear about it. But he was like, yeah, there's another set, like situation for session musicians where it's not like, you know,

letter notes. It's like this number system. Well, there is like tabs, like for guitar and for any stringed instrument, for people who can't read music, there's tabs which tell you what fret to hit rather than what note. Well, I think it's not just that.

I think it's a standard, like, kind of thing. Like, you have to know how to do in, like, session. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, these guys, they know a lot about music. Yeah, I'll ask them about it, but that'll be interesting. Which, speaking of the Ramones, you were talking about, like, oh, I haven't listened to Ramones too much. My dad and I, like, stayed up because I've been till 4 a.m. drinking when I was in Nashville.

Sure. I've been listening to all of Little Richards catalog. Oh, my God. Good stuff. Yeah. It was so good. So we watched a bunch of videos, and then he was like, well, let me show you some James Brown videos. And then we watched that.

And now I'm listening to all of James Brown. And then like the whole catalog. And I'm about to do Stevie Wonder. But now I'm like, maybe I do the Ramones. I would do the Ramones. I mean, they are, I think, it's weird because I consider them to be a really great entry point. But I say that having never entered through them. So I don't.

But for me, the misfits were basically. basically the same thing. And then once you go from the misfits, you start getting to other like American, like standard like hardcore of that time. And you can start listening to punk rock music that maybe sounds a little bit more grading to you now. Like eventually you'll be able to listen to the circle jerks

and be like, oh, I get it. This is fun. Okay. Yeah. Well then I'll do that because I know you two are into punk music. Hell yeah. And I'm kind of a, I'm kind of clueless. It's just fun.

It's good energy. I'm in. Positive. And even the negative vibes are positive. Yeah, I'll listen to Ramones on the drive up. A lot of songs about monsters. Yeah. They're all about 80 seconds long.

Oh, yes. You guys, I'm doing Monster Mash tomorrow night for the, for the karaoke content. That's a fun car. I let Monster Mash in April. That's bold. I know. I'm going to do it. No one sees it coming.

Never too early. What's that song? Well, that's why it's funny, but I need someone to do the backup. Like the he did the mesh. because I'm going to do the, I was working in the lab. I'm going to do that one. But Laura, one of my good friends, she wants to come and she does the Duck Tales theme song. Oh, okay.

These are bold karaoke choices. I like it. You're going to have fun. Okay, so she's able to give the sheet music, the huge stack of sheet music to the Ramones. And they're like, okay, well, if you like the song, we'll call you. They're such bad actors. They're awful. They can't, they can barely form a sentence.

It's so funny. It's great how they make these guys act. They cannot do it. Don't even know what accent they have. No. Truly, the words struggle so much to come out of the mouth that you're like, are they Australian?

It's a version of I'm walking here, but it's not really. That doesn't get it. Yeah, there's not one clear take. Yeah. I love that. So, at the next day at school, that's when the principal has instigated the final solution.

Jesus. And she starts burning. all the Ramones albums in front of like all the kids. The parents are there for some reason. And one Bob Dylan album. And one Bob Dylan album. I think there's a Springsteen album in there. Oh, I missed that.

I just saw the Bob Dylan and I was like, oh, how did that get mixed up in there? I know. That's a weird one of like, yeah, anyway. He's into AI now. Bob Dylan loves AI. Yeah. He's always ahead of his time. I think it's the one artist AI doesn't want.

Yeah. We're like, we don't need to generate anything that sounds like your shit. Sorry. So the... How does it feel? Have five fingers. I see you're trying to write a business email. But you're a cat with two dicks.

Dump him out Garfield. Are we doing AI jokes? Just things Bob Dylan can say. Dump about Garfield? This is him doing a prompt. Okay. Okay. This is Bob Dylan.

Okay, just I want to get, I want to be clear on what the premise is. Okay, the premise is Bob Dylan. He's saying this to AI, what he wants. Yeah, saying what he wants. Okay. Or he's just describing what he's seeing. Okay. You can take it either way.

Okay. Thank you for clarifying. The bit was very funny. So to counteract them burning all the albums, the kids lock themselves in the school and start going fucking crazy. They're throwing food at the lunch ladies. That was fucked. Yeah, these are just trying to do their job. Honestly, and they're like, please, no, and they're blindfolded.

Yeah. I thought that was really fucked up. In front of a firing squad. I know, lunch ladies, in the comedy of our youth, lunch ladies took a lot of shit. They did. They were supposed to be evil. They were the nicest ladies. They just made nasty food.

I mean, not even. That was the other thing. I always thought like school lunch is pretty good. Hell no. I don't know. Not in elementary school, those green beans. Oof, I have nightmares about that. I just wouldn't eat the green beans, but the little, like, tin tray of, quote, pizza that was just melted cheese.

Well, the pizza was great, but then you also had that corn. Corn, corn nibblets. I just wouldn't eat the corn. I just eat the pizza. Eat the pizza. But the smell of the corn, really, the room. So sure enough, while they're going crazy, the Ramones show up. They loved the song.

And one of the Ramones, they give this joke to. It eats shit so hard It's such a funny way He's like, boy, when you go to recess You really go all out And just like, he just bones it so hard Anyway, so then they start playing The Ramon's version of Rock and Roll High School

Riff Randall takes a chainsaw To the Permanent Records And then the thrilling conclusion happens Which we'll talk about right after this We're back, it's free with ads We're talking about rock and roll high school Okay, so the kids are going crazy in the school. The Ramones are there playing the song Rock and Roll High School.

Kate, the science whiz, she is making a bomb in the chemistry lab. By the way, the running joke with Kate the entire time is that she, things she enjoys doing are splitting protons or splitting the atom and, you know, whatever else. I think her first science experiment we see when she's just out on the lawn by herself doing it is cloning. Yeah, so she's like, you know, doing all this nerd stuff. They keep mentioning splitting atoms. And it's funny because at one point later, you know, the principal calls her mom and says, do you know where your daughter is?

I thought she was in the basement splitting protons. And you think it's just this dumb running gag, but it turns out it is, what do you call it, a Chekhov's gun? Right, yes. She uses her atom splitting technology. This is a cigarette at the beginning of misery. That's right. That's right.

This movie does have some fun callbacky stuff like that, like the mouse thing. When that happens, it's so satisfying. And I don't think we've mentioned this. When the parents are all there watching them burn the records, the mouse's mom is there. And she, it's the same costume, but she has on an apron that says,

I hate mouse work that I guess is supposed to be housework. But then she says, my kids are in there. Right. Because the little mice are in the cages in there. And you're like, oh, no. I know. It's great. But yeah, I think this movie does, like, call back to stuff in a fun way.

But did it ever call back to Tom and Kate? They, it's okay. So they... I don't remember it. Their love story is very flimsy. Sure. Kate's making this bomb. She's splitting the Adams.

And then all the kids run out. They're like, well, principal, you've won. We're going to leave the school. And then they literally blow it up. The school blows up. And then there's this. cop there who is I think is a real guy from that thing

I wonder if Matt recognized him I did not I did not recognize that cop he says just the Ramones like ugly ugly people you know I about the Ramones about the Ramones yeah Jesus I'm gonna have to like

look at his face again because I don't remember oh yeah like he looks incredibly familiar but I have no idea who he is Anyway, so the school is blowing up, and then Kate and Tom have this moment where they're like, maybe we're in love, and then they kiss. They didn't build that up in any satisfying way. But we spent so much time on it. I was like, what is going on?

But yeah, so they are in love. We assume they died in the explosion. And then everyone died in the explosion. He needed to get laid so bad. He really did. Well, in a way. Isn't getting blown up the ultimate orgasm? That's right.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Is it getting blown up the ultimate blow job? Oh. I like it. How does it feel? I got it bad, bad, bad. I'm hot for teacher. Literally, because she's blowing up.

Anyway. And that's the end of rock and roll high school. We're going to rank it, but first, you know we got to do the hunk watch. It's hunk watch. I'll go first. As I mentioned, this movie's a very, you know, this was an important movie to my childhood, important movie to me growing up.

You know, Riff Randall, very early crush object for me, coolest girl in school in her early 30s. On this viewing, I maybe, I love this movie, but I've maybe not seen it in 10 years. On this movie, on this viewing, Miss Togar for the win. Yeah. Oh my God.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? That's mine. Yeah. Yeah, she's mine. Yeah, I was going to choose her too. Listen, I don't agree with her politics. Okay. No, no, I'm just going to say it right now. But you got to separate the art from the artist.

You know what I mean? She's like, listen, she might be a Nazi, but she also brings a lot of other things to the table. She also doesn't take responsibility for her own act. She's like, you're turning the high school against me. She said that so many times. She was like, the Ramones, they're turning the high school against me. And I'm like, bitch, you are doing this to yourself. join yourself.

Also, it seems like you're making a problem out of nothing, you know? Like, let the kids go to a concert. Right. What are you doing? The music's fairly mild. Exactly. It's very mild. Yeah. What are they going to do? Sprane their ankles from dancing too much.

I love her little henchmen, too. Oh, yeah. We didn't even mention these. The hall monitors. That's another thing I know. It's our Balkan skull of the movie. I know, yeah. One of them looked like the guy from the New York Dolls, but I looked it up and it wasn't here. Oh, it's Buster Pointexter?

I thought one of them was Bougar from like the Revenge of the Nerds for a second, but it's not. And I remember. It's weird that Buggers not in this movie. I know. They should have been in there. Curtis aren't. I really should. I just remember the two of them, they like go give detentions.

They're kind of like the hall monitors. They're sort of the most problematic of the movie. They spend most of the movies saying, what is it? Not strip search, but like. Yeah. Body search. Body search. Where they just do like titty honking with their hands.

They do. And then didn't one of them eat the goldfish that like? somebody brought in. Yeah, they're like threatening Riff Randall's goldfish at some point and then the kid just eats it. It's so crazy. But then I remember they gave some kid a detention

in the hallway just for being ugly and I was like, bruh. Take a look in the mirror. Your little shorts and your sash you're wearing. They didn't give one to the Ramones. That's true. That's very true. Yeah, and it was interesting like, you know, again, with the

villains in this movie, not being like the jock, you know, Tom who's like, blonde and hot and having the hall monitors just be these ugly nerdy dudes but they're also bad yeah i kind of loved that i know i think we are in a moment now where it's like do we kind of we kind of want to see evil nerds right all of these movies it's like oh the nerds but like at this point nerds are have been they're the villains they're the villains they are the ones actively destroying the world and and they're not really even nerds it's like they're just rich they're just rich kids who uh

you know, buy up someone else, some other nerds work. Yeah. So, yeah, at this point, I like watching nerds getting stuffed in lockers. I think they deserve to get stuff in more, you know? Okay, we've discussed the hunks of the film, and now we're going to discuss the quality of the film itself when we come back. Hey, we're back. It's free with ads.

We are going to rank rock and roll high school on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials. but first a little treat. You guys like treats, right? Yeah, I do. Speed me, oink, oink. Thank you, piggy. So, we are bonus episode this month is on, it's a very special bonus episode.

It is on the pilot of Twin Peaks. Emily, safe to say, one of your all-time favorite shows ever, if not the favorite show ever? A hundred percent safe to say. Okay. This was a very fun chat. Emily brings a lot of Twin Peek knowledge to the, To the proceedings.

Which I heard you have issues with Twin Peaks from someone on Reddit. What do you mean? Somebody was saying you don't like it. What are you talking about? There was somebody who wrote something about how you had bad experiences with it in the past. Oh, interesting.

I think I talked about it on the show, which was I tried to watch it that once and then kind of bounced off it. No, I don't dislike it. Oh, okay, yeah. I forgot. Reddit. Where are you getting your information?

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I'll show that I haven't watched. And when I do speak for myself, you need to go behind a paywall to hear it. That's true. And then I'll speak for the trees. I'm the new laurex. What the fuck? I'm the new lore. I'm the Lorax now.

Whatever. You can just say anything you want on our podcast. Just say whatever you want. Yeah, whatever. It's just words. Who's going to stop you? So we did an episode on the pilot of Twin Peaks. We had a very, very fun time.

And Matt has prepared a little clip of that episode to wet your whistles. We're going to talk about the pilot to Twin Peaks. So we open on some shots of a lumber mill. That's right. It's the Pacific Northwest, and this is their industry. Hey, we got a little music there. I feel like we literally could just do the entire podcast within this in the background. I'm not going to do it that way. Right.

But how relaxed are you? This music, I feel like I'm at a strip club in Portland. You better believe at Jumbo's Clown Room, somebody has to strip to this. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I've never seen it, and I go there a lot. If you listen, yeah, if you're at a, if you're at a, you know, lesbian friendly burlesque forward strip club, someone is taking off their top to the Twin Peaks theme song.

It's just how it goes. You'll hear a little misfits too in there probably. Anyway, so yeah, it's the Pacific Northwest. We're seeing some lumber. We see an old real David Lynchy guy hanging around in a corner store. He goes outside and he finds a body wrapped in. He's the lead actor from Eraserhead. Oh, cool.

I didn't know that. That's neat. Yeah. This girl who died. It was a local teen named Laura Palmer. Yeah. And the first suspect to her death is her boyfriend, Bobby. Bobby is a real tough smoking cigarettes telling people to go fuck themselves teen.

And he's cheating. And he's cheating, as is everyone in this movie. Oh, 100%. Everyone. Everyone's cheating. Um, so yeah. What is this L.A.? Thank you.

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That's how you hear those bonus episodes. Okay. Uh, now we're going to rank rock and roll high school on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials. I'll take it home. because I have the most baggage around this thing. Let's start with you guys. Emily, what did you think? Rock and Roll High School, one to ten?

Well, after listening to you guys talk about it, I think it's changed my opinion a little bit. I guess I just wasn't, it just felt kind of like an empty lackluster grease in a way to me. Like there was. Greece without good dancing and just kind of shimmy. Without a lot of, like, there wasn't much of an ensemble, like kind of thing.

It was like these two girls who I'm like, are they friends? They don't look like they would like each other at all. I don't get why they're friends and I don't get why this girl is the coolest girl in school. She doesn't have a lot of friends. But then she, anytime she talks, everyone does what everyone, whatever, like whatever she says to do. None of it like made a lot of sense to me. The principal just being this psychopath was weird. I don't know.

It's just a lot of it felt like I couldn't fully engage with it. It felt like a prolonged music video. Sure. Kind of thing. And when I saw like clips of rock and roll high school, I was hoping it was going to be, there's a lot of people playing rock and roll at the high school. It's not just this girl with a boom box playing it for all these random teens. You were hoping it was a school of rock.

Yeah. I was hoping it was a high school where people played rock and roll. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And all the mice were fine. Yes. None of the mites exploded. Honestly, the mice thing is one of my favorite parts about the movie. Bonus point for a mice.

The fact that the Ramones were in it was so cool. I mean, there was a lot of fun things. I thought it was really weird that there's this guy doing favors for teens, and then the favors never really play out. I didn't get to see any banging or removing of bras. It just felt like a lot of fun ideas that did, I don't know. It wasn't giving for me. That's fair. That's fair. You're allowed to not like it.

So I'm giving it a four. Sorry, guys. That's fine. You never have to apologize for your own opinion. That's not true. Well, I mean, other than Godfather, other than Godfather. Never. Godfather, too. Other than Godfather, too, you don't ever have to apologize. I will never apologize for that.

Well, you should have. Matt, what did you think? I am in a similar camp to Emily, actually. I will say the process, the, my emotions. during this movie, a lot of up and down. Yeah. I will admit it was a slog for the first maybe 20, 20 minutes, 20, 30 minutes. I was just like, what is this?

Is it a comedy? I mean, I know. Is it a musical? Are the Ramones ever going to show up? Once the Ramones show up, the movie completely changes for me. And I'm like, oh, I think I love this movie. Because it turns into like kind of half of a concert film. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. And it just, for me, I just really like the music. And I'm a little bit, I'm like, oh, shit, I really should listen to the Ramones. They're very good. It's borderline moonwalker. Well, you know, I haven't seen Moonwalker. No one turns into a plane, though. Yeah.

That's true. I would need to see it. Someone needs to turn into a plane. I did see something with Michael Jackson in 3D at Disneyland. We've talked about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I didn't have the glasses. We've talked about this. Yeah, yeah, yes. We talk about everything. I just keep the podcast. You just tell the same five stories. Over and over. That's what a podcast.

Well, no, I'm just subliminally, like, sneaking in suggestions to watch Moonwalker every time I'm on. Oh, fuck you. I'm going to make you watch it. I promise. Maybe I'll watch it. Anyways, I, uh, it was a slog at the beginning, but then I really enjoyed it. And then I kind of started to see it from, I think, a younger me's perspective and a realized I very much enjoyed it. I'm going to give it a six.

Okay. Yeah. So again, I love this movie. I think it hit me at the right time, which is like 13, which is kind of when the Ramon should probably hit you. Yeah, I really like that it's like that cartoon logic. I like that it's, you know, kind of silly. It's kind of anarchy. I think that it's, when I watched it this time, I'm like, it is impressive. At least it was to me how this movie like passes the Bechdel test. I think we had so many, like we had so many high school movies, like the American pies where it's like the women in those movies were not treated nicely. They didn't have characters.

Yeah, pie was treated nicer. Yeah, I know, right? And like, you know, the movie, this movie does have a like horny guy trying to get laid plot, but it's not the main plot. It's about the two girls. And like, she wants to be a songwriter. that's like, you know, a step above kind of what people usually get in these movies.

So I don't know. I like that they... I mean, you didn't think they were funny or cool, but I think they're supposed to be funny and cool, which I think is... It speaks highly of where the movie's coming from. I like that a lot about it. And I think it is... Other than the creepy things we've mentioned,

has aged pretty good in that regard. And, you know, I just like... I love their hormones. I just love them. I love their bad acting. I love all their fucking music. I love how it's mostly a music video. I love that they're basically Ninja Turtles.

basically Ninja Turtle. So for me, this movie is a 10. I love it. It's a 10 you feel. It's not a 10 you know. Nice. I think that's great.

I love it. So yeah, I think if you, you know, didn't grow up with it, you can kind of skip it. But if this is kind of your stuff, I think you're going to have a great old time. All right.

Let's do a little plug-in. Anybody got anything? No. Nope. Hey, I will be at the L.A. Times Festival of Booker. on April 18th. So come on down to the LA Times Festival of Books. I'm going to be the Arvita booth.

Arvita, a great indie bookstore out of my hometown of Orange County. They are booth 34. I will be there at noon for how long. I don't know they didn't tell me. 12 to 12. 10. I just get there at 12. I'll be there. Sarah Jessica Parker will also be there on that day.

Who will have the longer line? Me or Sarah Jessica Parker. Wait, what? Why is Sarah Jessica Parker there? Because she probably wrote a book. Oh. Yeah. Anyway.

It's the 18th, April 18th. Arvita, booth 34 noon to question mark. Okay. Next week, a very special week. It's the start of the Max Fun Drive. That is the wonderful, beautiful two weeks where we coax people into joining the network. That means the shows can continue. and boy howdy,

do we have a first movie for you. You know, something about doing the show is that like the movies kind of come and go from some of these websites and they pop up and they disappear and there's one you want to do and then it disappears and we can't do it. But the gods have smiled on us.

It's like they knew that the Max Fun Drive was coming up. It's like they want us to get more members. It's like they want us to succeed. It's like they want this podcast to thrive because no sooner did we start planning our Max Fund Drive episodes. What should pop back up on the free services, but Road fucking House. Yeah, let's go.

That's right. Peter Griffin Voice, Roadhouse, not the remake, the original, the real one, the good one, Patrick Swayze. Next week, Roadhouse, Max Fund, Drive. Sam Elliott. Pain. Don't hurt.

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