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Episode Date: April 8, 2025

We picked this week's movie based on vibes alone. We watched the 1967 horror film She Freak, about a woman who works at a carnival freak show.Tune in next week when our movie will be... Reefer Madness (1936)-----If you missed our Fern Gully watch-a-long during the MaxFunDrive, you can watch it here! See Jordan Jesse Go! Live in Chicago 4/11 at the Sleeping Village. Buy tickets here.While in Chicago, Jordan will also be at the C2E2 Comic Book convention!Also, Jordan contributed to Godzilla vs LA, a comic book anthology which comes out April 30th and all the proceeds will go to those affected by the LA fires. Matt Lieb and Francesca Fiorentini will be in San Francisco at Cobb's Comedy Club on May 7th! Buy tickets here! 

It's Free With Ads, the podcast that asks the question, why pay max 10 bucks a month for a bunch of A24 movies when you could go online for free and watch a slow ass, message heavy horror movie that's better than any of them because of all the shots of delicious corn dogs. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is She Freak, the 1967 Grindhouse horror movie that will scare the shit out of you if you're afraid of montages and jazz music.

With us always is Super Producer Matt Hittness with those freaky drops. He Freak. That was. Oh, I'm the he freak. That was... Stop it. I'm the he freak. You know, I hear they're doing a woke reboot of this movie and it's called They Freak. Oh boy. Wow. Let's cut that joke. That's not a joke, Jordan.

Boost it up. We don't need it. Boost it. I'm going to add it twice. No, we don't need the heat. We don't need it. Before we talk about this movie, which is as of this recording streaming free with ads, we're gonna answer a question someone sent to our email address in a segment we call

We Got Mail. This letter is from Riley Gray. They write, hey gang just wanted to say thanks for watching Showgirls this week. I was terrified of this movie as a child because I thought the poster was of a weird snake woman and she scared the piss out of me. Oh my God. That's true though. It's so, I could totally see it.

Yes, because she had one leg. It's like I'll never forget the poster. I know. So, yeah, so scary but also disappointing if you're anticipating a snake woman movie. You're like what the fuck? No one's transforming into a snake in this. I thought this was like an Anaconda type thing,

and instead it's. I mean, that's what the poster should have been for She-Freak, kind of, I guess. Oh yeah. That's a great point. That's a great point. Riley goes on to write, so getting to watch Showgirls along with y'all for the show was my own version of exposure therapy,

and I can happily say I am now afraid of Showgirls awful dialogue, but not the poster. So thanks for that. Nice. Question for all of you, is there a movie you haven't seen because you were afraid of the poster as a kid? Really hope I'm not alone in this.

Emily, sounds like you have an answer off the dome. Wait, first of all, I said oh my God because I realized something about the poster for Showgirls. Is she in the shape of an S? Is that what the point of that is? Oh shit, I didn't realize that. Is she? I feel like-

Yeah, cause why else would you only give her one leg? What is that? Why? Sure. Oh man, this is like- I think she's in the shape of an S. It's like when you see the arrow in the FedEx logo. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, wait, Showgirls poster. I gotta see if it... No, it doesn't work. No, it's not quite a... It is though, it is an S. No, it's not quite, it is though, it is an S, no, it is. Oh it is, kind of, but the leg needs to, yeah, the leg needs to be bent and then the toe's bent in the other way. Yeah. Yeah.

It was the 90s, so I think she was supposed to be a Stussy symbol. Oh. What the fuck is that? Gotta capitalize off Stussy mania. Oh, I get it. What is Stussy? Stussy is something cool guys used to draw instead of doing their homework.

It's like an S that looks cool. Yeah, the S with six lines. Three at the top, three at the bottom. That's the one. Yeah. Wait, you're a girl. You're not supposed to know that. No, everybody knew how to do that.

But also, it was kind of a fun exercise in understanding perspective. I really liked it, it helped me to learn about, for example, if you were to draw the showgirls poster, you would go, okay, what would the shadow be like if the leg behind that leg? It is like, okay, the S thing, that is the showgirls poster. 100%. That is crazy. Okay, the S thing, that is the showgirls poster, if you think about it.

100%. That is crazy. I have a movie poster that I was scared of as a kid. I have a couple, actually. A couple things come to mind. First of all, the poster for Ghoulies, the Gremlin's reboot about the monsters that come out of the toilet.

Does anyone remember this? Do not know Ghuli. Yes. I've heard about that, but it's very hard to find. It's very hard to find to watch. I have not. I've never seen this movie. I would like to see it at some point to conquer my fear. And I guess the the, you know, the thing that horror film nerds will tell you is that like they don't really come out of the toilet a lot

in the movie. That was just something they did for the poster and then like it became the toilet monster movie so i guess in future ghoulies sequels they're always popping out of the toilet anyway i have never seen this movie i was just so afraid of getting my butt bitten by one of these things yeah 100 100 mostly my balls off the balls oh don't even get me started on the balls the The balls are just a target. They're just they're just waiting there to be bitten by a

ghoulie. Okay, I have I have something but I don't know if it's real or not and I'm going to need our listeners to help me. Okay. So, when I was a kid, we had a Compton's grocery store which was like a I think it was a small local owned grocery store. I don't think. But they had a video, like a VHS rental section, which was really just wrapped around one of the aisles. It was like the produce is on one side and the cereal was on the other.

And there was like a little thing between with VHSs. And we would get stuff from there, but there was this cover of a VHS that I could've sworn the actress was Bernadette Peters. Yes, as a small child, I knew who the fuck Bernadette Peters was. Little Orphan Annie, you know, we all knew. Anyway.

The jerk, I mean, yeah, so many. The jerk, but also Shelley Duvall's Fairytale Theater. She's in Sleeping Beauty, I think. Anyway. A legend. So beautiful. A goddamn legend. And I was really obsessed with it, but then I saw what I thought was her,

but she's on the cover and it's like, there's all these hands grabbing her body, and it looks like they're kind of tearing the clothes off, and it looks like they're trying to pull her into a wall, and I remember looking at that and trying to remember it and rubbing it out to it. And I don't know if it's a real movie though. I'm looking it up right now, Bernadette Peters,

hands all over her movie and then it's not coming up. So if you have another way to search for it, and maybe it wasn't her, maybe it was just somebody who I thought looked like her, but I'm pretty sure it was a horror movie. I'm gonna go ahead and guess. What a mystery, this is our eight part investigative podcast. But I may have just had like a fucking fever dream

at some point as a kid. I don't know, but I feel like it exists. Help me find it, it wasn't porn. Matt, do you have anything off the dome when it comes to posters that scared you? I immediately had it. The first is the poster for a movie that I have never seen called Dead Alive.

Oh, sure, sure. And that's one, the poster is a woman pulling her lips apart and in her mouth is a tiny little skull. And I don't know what that movie is about. I assume... It scared the shit out of me, that movie. So you were correct.

I just never saw it. It just looked scary as hell. And then there's a movie, it's called... Okay, so I think it's called Ants. I'm not talking about the animated feature. Okay. It's not the Woody Allen movie. You were scared of that movie

because you knew about Woody Allen, you knew. Yes. It would eventually come out about Woody Allen. I was like, there's just something off about him. You were also like, there's a Bugs Life. I don't know why I need this one. Yeah, that was mostly bad. Why do I need this one?

It scared me because I was like, is Hollywood never gonna have an original idea again? No, there was a movie I don't know. You just got over all those asteroid movies that came out the same year. And now this? Deep Impact. What a horny name for a movie by the way. Yeah, Deep Impact is a... I never put that together, but you're right. That is very horny. What the fuck name is that?

So, I think the movie is called Ants. All I remember as a kid was being at the video store and it was a movie where the poster was a woman's titties covered in ants. And I just remember- Now you're just making shit up. Are you fucking with me, Matt? No, I swear to God, listeners, if you're out there, let me know if Ants is real

or if this was just some sort of fever dream that I had, not unlike Emily Fleming. But I believe it was a movie. It looked like it was a seventies horror film about what if ants covered your titties. And as a kid, I felt like it was the closest thing I got to seeing a naked lady until I discovered the penthouse forums under my dad's bed. But that's a story for another day. So if that's real, let me know. Or maybe that is just an alternative poster for the animated kids classic ants. All right. Weirdos. You got a homework assignment. Find this

Bernadette Peters hand movie. You guys, I have an idea based off of that. Oh. Okay. If I were to ever have an OnlyFans page, it would be very boring. It would be kind of horny stuff, but not like sexy stuff. Sure. If we did like, what was that movie where people ate bugs, Fear Factor. If we did like a slutty Fear Factor,

we could put someone in a glass box where only their titties are exposed and then put ants in there. I mean, now we're just recreating a poster for my. And then it's like, would you do it? We'll even be like, yes, as long as there are enough fire ants, put some ants on my titties, I don't know. Yeah, that was the other thing.

I think we've got a million dollar idea. I'm down for ant titty recreations. Ant titty. Whatever floats anyone's boat, I don't judge. No kink shaming here. Well, if you're out there and you know either of these movies or you can construct giant glass boxes, we want to hear from you free with ads at maximumfun.org.

Thank you Riley for your letter. And yeah, now we're gonna talk about She-Freak. But before we do, we should mention that there is a scene of partner violence, so if that's something you don't want to hear us talk about, we're going to play some music and give you a chance to find another episode. We're back! It's Free With Ads. We're talking about She-Freak.

And I don't think there's a better way to get the vibe of this movie than to play the trailer. It's from the 60s, so you know, it's got one of those great voiceover heavy trailers. Matt, can we play a little bit of this thing? You got it. Our barrack occurs behind the tent and tent full of a monster midway on the alley of nightmare. You'll gasp in astonishment when you witness nature's human mistakes. You'll see it all and more when you see she freaks.

It's so not a good advertisement for what happens. I mean. You barely ever see anyone else. Anyway, we'll get into it. No, it is. It is not a great trailer. It is not a great trailer and it also gives away the entire movie. No, it doesn't. I mean, the word freak is in there but it's like, you don't really see much of anything. You see some flashes of the surprise ending that is a surprise to no one.

You see a lady kiss a snake. That's about as much of that as you see. You see a little flash of our hero slash lead villain of the movie as a freak. But we don't want to do any spoilers on this podcast. Wait, you already... Well, I mean, it's in the name of the thing. That's true. I think we all know she's freaking by the end of this thing.

We know she freak. We know she freak. But is she with it? We know she freak. So chic. So this movie from the 60s, I will say, something I noticed right off the bat, looks fucking beautiful. Not because it was a well-made movie, it is not.

But it has been restored in a really nice way. It is really, like the colors pop in this movie, it's the sexy, so the outfits all look awesome. I looked into it a little bit, this movie got restored by the American Genre Film Archive, which is a pretty cool organization I didn't know anything about that kind of takes these, like, you know, B-movies, shawky movies, trash movies and like gives them nice restoration. So

AGFA I hope we watch more of your movies in the future. Yeah, definitely. I'm gonna look that up as soon as we're done with this Yeah, super super cool. Hey, this movie starts out with a special. Thanks to the American Carnival Association I loved that. I loved it immediately. It made me love the movie immediately. And they say something about how the leader of the American Carnival Association

did his best to rid the organization of Montabanks. What is a Montabank? I think it's just like a sleazy guy, a Montabank, a no good Nick. Yeah, so lots of good old time-isms in this thing. I fucking hate Montabanks. But I mean, what I think they were trying to do is say, this is inspired by legends of this, but this is an upstanding business that is a lot of good things about it. So these are- Right. There's a lot of stereotypes about carnies. In fact, I don't even- At this point,

I'm- I didn't even think it was that bad. Is that a slur? I feel like we're not going to say carnies anymore because that, at this point, sounds like a slur. Well, I think that it's always kind of been one of those words where you go, I don't know. And then you go, why not? Let's just not say it. where you go, I don't know, and then you go, why not? Let's just not say it. Like, you know, it's like, I don't know, but it doesn't sound good.

I so rarely have cause to say it. Let's call them amusement professionals. Thank you. Travelling, itinerant amusement professionals. Yes, freak work is work. Yeah, but I guess she freak is fine. Oh yeah, she freaks great. Yeah, that's no problem.

She's a proud freak. Exactly. Oh yeah, she freaks great. Yeah, that's no problem. She's a proud freak. Exactly. My mom was a freak. So yeah, so I think kind of practically just this movie was shot at a carnival in Bakersfield. So I think they had to say, like, we're not making you guys look bad. We're playing nice.

Anyway, so yeah, clearly this movie was just shot at a carnival that was going on. Anyway, we get a lot of- It kind of made it seem like it was in the South. A couple of times. Yeah. Like she chose to have an accent sometimes. With the perfect accents. Ooh, there's- Other times it wasn't there.

But it was like, nice country girl. Worst accents, this side of True Blood. Oh, yeah. Real bad. So yeah, we start out with a long montage of carnival stuff. I hope you like this shit, because that's the most of the movie.

And the credits have something really amazing. A lot of times movies of this time, like they would thank the fashion designers in the credits. It would be like, you know, Audrey Hepburn's gowns provided by Edith Head or something like that. Really? That used to be a thing?

Oh yeah. Yeah, totally, if you watch old movies around this time, like the fashion designers were kind of a big deal and they'd get a little thanks for the top credits. That should still fucking happen. So this one has, maybe the greatest one of all time, they have Miss Brenna's wardrobe provided by Sassy Pants. No.

No. It says it at the opening or at the end? In the opening credits, thank you Sassyants, for all the wardrobe in this movie. I mean, you just know that Sassy Pants put like at least $10,000 in this film and they were just like, oh, you're mentioning us at the top. I don't know about 10,000. I'm going to say maybe 500. Maybe 500, but that's a lot for 1967. Just for inflation.

Just for inflation. Really good $500. I'm going to do a deep dive on Sassy Pants here soon. 500 maybe 500, but that's a lot for Inflation really good $500 I'm gonna do a deep dive on sassy pants here soon eventually and I'll let you know. Yeah, it's sassy pants still around Can I find some original sassy pants clothing on eBay? We want to know probably find out So we get a shot of the freak show at the carnival. Everybody's looking at a strange creature in a pit. We don't see what that creature is, but we get this shot of a woman looking down at it and screaming. This is very effective. I was pretty scared by this.

Yes, that girl's the best actress or actor in the entire movie. Oh, totally, yeah. This woman screaming really like sells it and sets you up for a scarier movie that does not happen. I know they needed her to do that or else no one would watch the movie. Yeah there's a couple of like shocking things in this movie but it is mostly real slow. Anyways we meet our main character we've called her a hero we've called her an anti-hero it's all true it's Jade She works in a diner with her boss,

whose name, I guess, is Greasy. She calls him Greasy. But I watched this with subtitles, and every time he talks, his name is Greasy. So he's just a big fucking diner scumbag. Yep, yep. He's a Greasy guy. He looks like his name is Greasy.

He looks Greasy. I guess they were like, what are we doing here trying to name him Steve just call it greasy. Call the man greasy Yes, name names have power and I think this well, I mean greasy is the greatest callback of the whole movie. That's right Oh, yeah, sure. Greasy greasy will return I knew it was gonna happen as soon as we meet him and he's just like, you watch, something bad's gonna happen. We already know the movie's called She-Freak, so we know it's gonna happen. But him saying that, I'm like, I wonder if he'll be there. So Jade, she's a small town girl with a southern accent sometimes, and she wants to get out

of there. She wants to get to somewhere non-specific. No specific dreams on Jade. She just wants to get out of there. She wants to get to somewhere non-specific, no specific dreams on Jade, she just wants to get out of there. And she meets a stranger who's there working for the carnival, and she tells Greasy that she's quitting to join the carnival, and he says,

"'What are you gonna do, dance the hoochie coochie?' Apparently this is a huge fucking slam. Huge fucking slam. Is the guy who came into the diner the one that she eventually marries? Like the one who owns the place? Is that him? The guy who she eventually marries,

I did not clock until she like married him. I'm like, who's that? I think he's in the opening scene. I mean, so yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, can I point out the fact that she said, I don't want to end up like my mom, 45 and like miserable. And I'm like, bitch, how old are you? Like you are easily older than your mom. Who's the mom? It's like the sixties makeup and dress style just looks like way older than you would think.

So yeah, seeing her, I was like, is she supposed to be a teen because she looks like a librarian? You know what I mean? No, she looks like a lady who smokes cigarettes and tans a lot. And is just like, I'm still young. And you're like, okay, buddy, like, you know, whatever. Okay. And we just go, okay, I guess. So she gets out of there. She goes to the carnival.

She is wearing the pointiest 60s ass bra I've ever seen. Oh yeah. Right angle jugs on this one. Honestly, I want some pointy ass bras. I've never had to wear them. Well then call the folks at Sassy Pants for all your dangerous bra needs. You need a dangerous bra that could poke two eyes out?

Call Sassy Pants. They pass a cart at the carnival that is advertising tacos and coffee. What a putrid combination. Can you imagine a hot cup of coffee and some carne asada? Yeah, nothing says the south like those two things. Yeah, right? They're just trying to let you know

how freaky this carnival is. Whoa, tacos and coffee, that's fucked up. Weird flavor profiles over here, dude. This must be a freak show. It's the morning, time to shit. Like, just, here it is. Yeah, that's true. Are you backed up?

Come to tacos and coffee. Clear yourself out. It's a spa. Clear yourself out. Anyway, so she gets a job. She's cleaning tables just like she did at the diner. Oh boy, this is not what she envisioned. She meets Moon, Jade and Moon, two of the most 60s ass names in history.

Moon is the carnival stripper, which is I guess something they had. She just, that's something that you can do at the carnival. Well it's like burlesque. She said she got as naked as the law would allow. Right, yes. So that made me think, okay, she's not getting

topless bottomless, but it's still like horny. So I feel like it's just burlesque. Yeah. In like the vaudeville circus, you know, whatever kind of review. But she's also the coolest lady in the whole movie. Coolest person in the whole movie. She totally rules, is a good actor,

maybe she'll be the lead of the movie, I don't know. Yes, she should. Well, this character is so rad and like gives our main character, who is also an asshole, a place to live while she's doing what she's doing. Yeah, just ate the motel with her. And it's like two cool girls hanging out,

but I was like, why is she being so nice to her? Oh, she's gonna be the reason that she becomes a she-freak. Right, I was thinking that too. She's gonna betray her or something. That's what I assumed was going to happen. I assumed a much more interesting movie. Yeah, you assumed a better movie. And then it didn't happen?

Yeah. Yeah. So she's befriended by Moon, who kind of like shows her the ropes, more interesting movie. Yeah, you assumed a better movie. And then it didn't happen? Yeah. Yeah. So she's befriended by Moon, who kind of shows with the ropes, teaches her all the carnival lingo. But then we also meet the Ferris wheel guy, Blackie Fleming, grandfather of Eboli Fleming. I know.

I knew you guys. And they say his last name so much. They really do. It is just constant and If someone could do a super cut of that that be real fun Yeah, we should say up at the top if you're worried about this blackie Fleming appears to be a white guy is a white guy Yes, yeah, that was confusing to me. Why would they call? someone that I think like back in the day it was just

someone that is there like. Back in the day it was just one of the nicknames. You know when you hear like good old boy nicknames or old name like Squee and Junior and you know Balls. We have in our family lore a Lil Johnny. Yeah exactly. Everything bad has happened to Lil Johnny. Like everything. In my like extended southern family there's three Bubbas

and they're hard to keep track of. No, three? Three yeah There's three Bubbas and they're hard to know. Yeah, three. Yeah, there's three Bubbas. It's really. Wait, was it short for anything? I don't think so. I think it's just something you call a dude. I think if it's just you blackie Bubba, Chudson, you know, that's what they were called. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, yeah, their names are like Chris or something like that.

Anyway, I just realized something really quickly that I would like to retract from the thing I said earlier. The fact that I assumed that the other girl who was giving our main character a place to stay had bad intentions, that really shows something about me. No, I think not. Why is this lady being so nice to another lady? She's trying to destroy her.

I'm going to destroy her. What the fuck is wrong with me? No, I have to point that out. I have to say, I'm sorry. I you know, I think I think just given how how crazy this movie is. You can maybe assume that it has like bad politics and I guess it does but like not in maybe not exactly the way that you think it does. Exactly but I was kind of like I'm like oh yeah showgirls was kind of that where you're

just like why is like show me what your nails like you're like yeah movies really didn't want women to like each other. I'm kind of putting it together now more than I ever have. Yeah. I guess. Anyway, continue. Yes, anyway, so Blackie, he's trouble. He's a bad boy. He fixes the Ferris wheel.

He's, I think probably the tallest person in the movie. Yeah, I'd say so. Tallest guy. So we see some of the freaks in the freak tent. We see the snake handling woman who's just wearing a lovely hand knitted sweater. The snake woman, she looks like she's a manager at Joanne's Fabrics during the week and on the weekend she comes and handles snakes. It's so funny how wholesome the snake handling woman is.

The whole thing is wholesome. The whole carnival of people are really nice people. I do not understand. I think I don't know what a freak show is because I assumed that when they were like, oh freaks, that it was going to be just exploiting people with disabilities. And there was, you know, there were a couple maybe, but for the most part, it was just like old woman with snake, skinny guy, you know, someone with cards. Well, I think it's just people who live on the fringes of society. It's very strange to call them a freak. It's like, I just, I guess I was like, okay, are they freaks or

is that just a guy who's really into snakes? Like I don't understand why they're telling me the budget didn't include like a casting director Like yeah tells me that was part of it. But I have been to Carnival freak shows I don't know if you have Jordan. Have you no I have never yeah, I mean I've Carnals before. I kind of like them, but yeah, I don't think I've ever been to one that included a freak show. I guess like, I guess I can think of like that thing you're talking about where it's like a kind of ironic, like burlesque type show

where there's a sword swallow or like something like that. Fire breather, that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen that. Is that freak stuff or is that just loser stuff? It's a loser show. If they called it a loser show, I'd be like, OK, I get it. Yes, anyone who knows. Swallows are losers?

Well, I mean, I'm a bigger loser, but let's be real. Listen, no. It's more like freak in the way that a mean girl says freak. Like, ew, you're a freak. I thought it meant like I got an arm growing out of my nose. Okay. Well, the beginning of the movie was very, very concerned about portraying these carnivals in a negative stereotypical light, which was really lovely. So I feel like they're just implying based on our lead characters, like opinion of them that they're freaks without

like demonizing certain things as freakish. I think that's what they were trying to do. This is the wokest movie of the 60s I've ever seen. Anyway, I did go to freak shows. Nashville, it was the Tennessee State Fair. I went to two years of it and there was the world's smallest woman. I went to two years of it and there was the world's smallest woman. It was very tiny. She did not look like she was stoked. And then there was the world's largest alligator, which I am positive was fake, but cause it wouldn't move. It was, well, that's probably cause it was sad.

Yeah. He was probably in the world's smallest trailer. They're making me marry the world's smallest woman. Having funnel cakes thrown at him by the world's drunkest tourists. I guess when I was a kid, I just thought that alligators didn't like fucking movement, but really it was so sad. It was depressed. Because if I think about it, these people don't have great, like, special effects to be making a perfectly, like... No.

Yeah, that was a sad alligator. Yeah. Hang on. There was another one, which was a guy who did too much drugs. See, that's OK. So at this point... And they had, like, this big... it was there to scare kids into not doing drugs and

It was already laying no no no it was a kind of actually yeah Very big he was very big and he was in a room full of smoke It just had smoke all the time and he he's like on a chair, like a lazy boy chair. And he's got like, it was really weird. I will say because the airbrush like sign that was outside of it, because you had to pay individually per show, like you just walked in a circle around the person. And same thing with the alligator that was in a tank. But yeah, that was the first show when I was 11 years old in Tennessee. And I was like, I assumed y'all had the same thing. Jesus, my childhood is kind of fucked, I guess.

As a recovering drug addict, I wanna say it is very, very funny to me that I could have also had a career as a guy who sits there and does drugs. Like, that is wild. Amazing. Sit in a trailer, get fucked up, and eat all the nachos you can.

Kids, don't be like me. I'm gonna go to sleep for 18 hours. Yeah. So, Jade, she's having a great time at the carnival. She's staying at the Motel with Moon. She gets her palm read, and the carnival. She's staying at the motel with moon. She gets her palm red and And the palm reader sees something unusual. She says your lifeline stops and then starts again So we know Jade is gonna get a new beginning. Ooh

Spooky anyway, we get a long ass taking down the carnival montage a lot of montages in this a lot of jazz music Just walk it around if you're like interested in carnival logistics This movie is like fucking stoking you out like hundreds like oh cool. That's how they raised the posts But there is so there are so many scenes of our characters walking to and fro certain areas that I'm like, I know the entire layout of this carnival. I've seen them walk everywhere because the walking montages

are so long. I've never seen a movie that is a majority B-roll. I know. It's wild. It's like legit half B-roll. It's like, well, you have good stock footage, now put this into a movie. No, that is the movie. It's not just.

And crazy jazz. Like, the jazz is like so jazzy. And at first I was like, this is cool, okay. And then by the end I was like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. So during one of the carnival take downs, she goes back to Blackie's trailer or wherever. I think he lives in the back of one of the trucks.

Yeah. He's got a mattress on the floor and I love that he has just Blackie spray painted above his mattress. This is where Blackie sleeps, here. In case I forget, this is my bed. Emily, this is a bedroom. Any thoughts in case I forget this is my bed Emily this is a bedroom any thoughts on the bedroom is our bedroom I

Guess I didn't think much of it until you went. Oh the mattress is on the floor. I'm like I can't even see it anymore It's just all I know I'm kidding though now it Now it sucked in there and I was kind of crazy. It was kind of crazy she went in there. I just was like, she doesn't seem like she would do this. And then, because there were a lot of decisions this character made that I didn't see coming. Are insane, yeah. Yeah, and I didn't see any of them coming.

She just makes weird choices that don't add up, but this was one of them. So yeah, so she's in there with Blackie. She like makes fun of them coming, she just makes weird choices that don't add up, but this was one of them. So yeah, so she's in there with Blackie, she makes fun of him, they slap each other, he takes off his shirt and stands in the corner like he's about to be killed by the Blair Witch. I know! And then he's just standing there shirtless

and she goes over to him and caresses him and then they do it. You don't see it, but it cuts to her leaving the trailer. It's very weird. So she's in this toxic thing with Blackie. And then we get a dating montage of her and a clean cut guy who might be the guy from the beginning of the movie.

I think he owns the whole carnival. Yeah, exactly. So she's she's going going with Blackie, but then there's also this guy and they like hang around the carnival together. It's like you both fucking work there. Don't go on a date to work. Yeah, like we don't take people to do a podcast with us, you know, like. I was single, I might. Yeah. Hey,

come talk about Alien versus Predator with me. My dumb friends. This is pretty much the only way I stay in contact with people I know is podcasting with them. So I kind of get it. I would. So yeah, she's like dating this guy. They go and they try on a lot of little hats.

There's so much montage. I think they probably couldn't use sound at this carnival. It's probably too expensive. So I think that's why there's so much soundless shit. I think that's a real, yeah. I think that's, so you think that they dubbed all the audio in afterwards? I would guess.

And added jazz. And added jazz. And added jazz, yeah. The jazz was live. I mean, that's one way to do it. Just a band behind the camera. So they try on a lot of little hats. One of them is a Confederate Army hat,

and I will say, as someone who is good, that is the worst hat in the movie. Yes. The worst hat. Thank you, yes. I think that's the worstest hat. It's the worstest hat. Of all the movies we've seen. but there's a lot of fun little

hats in that one Of course other than the Confederate army. Yeah, but there's a lot of best hats in that but that one was the worst hat I bet that's what most of their budget was those fucking hat was their hat budget Sassy pants wasn't covering that Pants not sassy hats. You need to call sassy hats. Run by my loser brother. Oh boy.

The sassy family is being torn apart. This is like the Zanku chicken disaster. Or house of sassy, right? House of sassy. Terrible Italian accents in that movie. Yeah. Horrible Italian accents in that movie. Yeah, horrible. Woo! Um, I need to control over the Sassy House.

Jared, Jared Leto. Yeah, he's doing a great job. He's brilliant, I guess. Oh my God. So this guy who she's going on these dates with, she marries him, hard cut to them getting married. Yup. And so they're like, are on this honeymoon,

he's calling her Mrs. St. John. And the guy's got this voice, he's got this 60s movie guy voice. Good morning, Mrs. St. John. Yeah, his voice is the worst part because everything else about him is hot as fuck. And then that voice happens and you're like, ooh, I get why she's cheating on him.

Everything this guy said made me laugh. And there's this great part where he's trying to like, order them room service. Yes, I knew it, I knew it, I knew it. And she wants to do it and he wants to order room service. So she's- And eggs. Eggs. So she's kissing him like up and down the neck,

very not sexually. And he's just listing breakfast foods on the phone that he wants. He's like, eggs, bacon, hash browns, coffee, it's a giant breakfast order. Cinnamon rolls, apple fritters. Well he said toast. He says toast, butter.

And then he goes jam. Jam. Knife. Yeah, after a while. I think they include the butter. I think they'll just bring up the butter. Yes, yeah, don't worry about the jam and the fucking butter.

They'll bring it. Napkin, plate. Salt. Bring me. Water. Little kiss. Little kiss. Cup for drink.

Cup for drink. Andy's mint. Andy's mint. For after. Anyway, so that's pretty good. But she is, as Emily mentioned, still sneaking off with Blackie periodically, and this will lead to the eventual freaking

that we'll talk about She-Freak. So Jade, she's got these two guys and she turns them against each other Blackie comes over to the hotel and she gets in a big fight with that guy. Hey forget his name His last name is st. John. Whatever. I do not husband guy and Blackie stabs him and Jade looks happy about it and Blackie stabs him and Jade looks happy about it. A big smile. It's so weird. Yeah.

It's so weird. So I guess, so I guess we cut to her like in a, you know, in a power suit getting out of like a Cadillac. She owns the carnival now. It turns out she freak was the original girl boss. That's right, the first one to lean in. It was kind of that, and can I tell you, that's right. The first one to lean in. And can I tell you, that suit she comes out of the car with,

that bright red with this fuchsia purple, I was like, whoa, she stepped up. Talk about sassy pants. Talk about sassy pants. I bet sassy pants made that, and I'm like, ooh, that's a color combo I'm gonna remember. I loved that suit a lot. I think we all want a She-Freak freaking the sheets and a girl boss in the streets

What about a gatekeep in my Breather in my eyes. Yes These are all good you can say whatever on a you can't do a bad ones. No, they're all good equally good. Yep. So one of her first things that she does as the new boss of the carnival is to fire the freaks. That's right. She hates them apparently. Oh the whole movie. Who else works there? I don't get it. I know. Blackie I guess. Like it's just her and Blackie fixing everything from now on. Yeah, is he the, he's like the ride operator, which I didn't realize there were rides because you don't really see them, but I guess there's a Ferris wheel and shit. Right. So she fires Shorty. Shorty is the one who

actually snitched on Blackie and her cheating together. And so- I would have liked to have talked to him. It felt like he was going to be a big character in this story. And then you only see him at the beginning and then when he raps on her and that's it. And when he does snitch, St. John, whatever his name is, husband, slaps him in the face. And I was like, damn. I know.

And it's like the sad thing is. Why you slapping the messenger? That's fucked up. That moment is so sad because right before it is this amazing scene where he, husband, and our main girl are in bed together and she's talking shit about the freaks. And she's like, please don't say that about my friends.

Yes. It's like the whole don't say that about my friends. Yes, the whole movie she's doing this. He says this really amazing, that's my favorite scene in the movie. Yeah, you're right Emily, that scene is great and it's really sweet. He talks about how like, he's doing it in this very like, kind of-

Altruistic. This kind of crass way, but like, it is this thing about how like, oh this show like, gives people a second chance and it lets them be self-reliant. You're right, that is a very beautiful scene. He's a good boss. The guy who owns this carnival is a nice man

who cares about people and thinks of this as a brotherhood. And does it like that she's talking shit about these people that are part of his family, the way he talk about them. Moon feels the same way, because she also does the same thing with Moon, where she's just like- Why the fuck aren't they married?

I don't get that. I know, they were perfect for each other. That would have been way better. You can't tie Moon down. You can't tie her down. Yeah, I know. That's true. She's a free woman.

She's got a free spirit. She has the moon in the sky. Itchy feet, as she called them. Oh, yeah, that's interesting. That's syphilis, I think. The freaks. Not that, first half syphilis, Jesus Christ. So the freaks, they get their revenge.

We get this, this is the last two minutes of the movie, and it is pretty effective. It's really crazy and psychedelic. We get all these, and I I think to your point, Emily, for the first time we get people who look like traditionally what you would, like there's a person with a bunch of hair, like a wolf man or something like that.

So it's people you would think of as being part of something like this. So they're attacking her. To me it just looked like a bunch of old people like fucking touching her. I didn't see any like, I don't know, people with tattoos all over their face. Right. Like it was just a very hairy man who looked like he was in Lord of the Rings or something. Like, what's it really? Yeah. And an old waitress. And it's just

like, are they freaks or do they just need a job? Well, I think they're just carnival workers. These are not the freaks. These are the people that work for the carnival that are like you're not gonna fucking fuck with our people They're supposed to be the freaks I don't know who works. I don't know. I don't know Yeah, we have not seen you have not seen any of these people up till this point It's like a track of the movie is freaking is b-roll They could have used that to give backories to the freaks. I would have loved that. Yeah, but then they would have had to pay people. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

They would have had to pay people and rent microphones for more than two hours. Exactly. Yes. So these carnival workers, they drag her off. And then we see the reveal that we were promised at the beginning of the movie. We see her in the pit and what does she look like? So half her face is like. Paper mache is happening. Yeah, she's been covered with paper mache. On one side of her body to look like it's burned, I think. Okay, I thought it was supposed to be like scales,

but then she has like a wolf part of her face and a big eye that doesn't close or just is wide open does not blink And a pointy ear and a tail. She has a tail. No she doesn't. Yes, she does There's just a snake back there hanging out. No, there's a tail. She has a tail. Re-watch it. She has a tail. I don't want to I'm telling you. The jazz is gonna keep me up. It was very confusing. Honestly, at the end of that movie, I felt so uneasy that I was like,

how am I gonna do a palate cleanser here? And it was like, what did I watch? Oh, I watched Buffy. That helped a lot. Way better. But it made me feel, I don't know, unwell at the end of this movie. It looked a lot. But like, it made me feel, like, I don't know, unwell at the end of this movie. It looked, but.

So yeah, so we get this shot of her as the freak. What did they do to her? Who knows? And Greasy is there, laughing at her, because he saw it coming. He told her. And then we get just a smash cut to a Bible verse. Vengeance is mine.

I will repay, sayeth the Lord. End of movie, special thanks to Sassy Pants. The end of this movie whips so much ass. It's crazy, I love it too because it's a 60s movies and all 60s movies ended just the end. No, no credits. This has a Bible verse. This one has a Bible verse and then it says the end.

And then it's just like all of a sudden, my YouTube is just like, now you're watching Bubble Boy. And I was like, I don't want to watch Bubble Boy. Now that now that sorry, now that I'm thinking about it, this does feel like it was written by Ryan Murphy. It does a little bit. Yeah, I bet you Ryan Murphy has the rights to this.

I bet. Trying to find a writer crazy enough to write this. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the movie that made him want to become a. You know what I was thinking while I was watching this? Like an entertainer. I would be surprised if this is the movie that made him want to become a... You know what I was thinking while I was watching this? Like an entertainer. I was thinking like, I bet David Lynch loves this movie.

I bet there's so much stuff in this one. Like, oh, this is some kind of like David Lynch-y type stuff. I bet this is the stuff he was watching that made him want to do. Anyway, this movie is insane, but you know what's crazier? The fucking comment section. Matt, can we take a little dive into the comment section? Oh, yeah. Comment section.

I'm just going to go through a couple real quick. Here's the first one. Captures an innocent time in United States, just the way I remember it. Huh? How? This is what your childhood was like. People grabbing each other and turning them into snake dog monkeys? And what about this? And also like- Or when women were punished for being sluts. Like is that what you like? Because it feels like that's maybe what you liked about it.

Also, there's zero percent chance that if you were an adult the way you are now in 1967, you'd be like, oh what an innocent time. It's 1967. Oh yeah, for sure. All, like you are the same person that your parents were just yelling at the kids for listening to rock and roll music. Those beetles, the long hair. I mean this could have easily been all of the storyline clips taken out of a porn.

Yes, 100%. Easily. Yeah, yeah. It's all that without the fucking and with a little bit more paper mache. Yeah, a lot though. We got a couple more here. People seem to not realize, well, don't know,

was not born yet, whether this move, that this B-movie was meant for the drive-in theater. I seen it debut there. If it was an actual award-winning movie, it would have been indoors. Us teens back then wasn't interested in the movie. We wanted attention ourselves.

And the best excuse for the parents? No, Mom, Dad, we really did go to the movies. So. So this is, I'm just, so I'm clear. Bad movie outside, good movie indoors. Yeah, that's how you know movie is good, is if they put it inside. Like a good movie.

Oh yeah, if a movie's in a building, then it's good. It's like a good dog versus bad dog type thing. This feels like chat GPT going, describe the 60s. Yeah, yeah. Well, in 60s, good movie inside, bad movie outside. Teens wanted attention for themselves. Yeah, jeez. Were you jacking off? 100% this person is saying this wasn't really so much a movie you sat and watched.

This is a movie you sat and necked to. That's essentially what they're saying. I guess. I kind of believe that because of all of the long jazz scenes. I mean, how do you make out or even fuck to this movie? Like it's like that. Remember the The song that went viral and it was like Yeah, no, it's it's a weird it's a weird rhythm to fuck to I'll say but it's the 60s, you know people were experimenting one more here I

buckle up. This is Karma in You Reap What You Have Sewn. I am age 67 and I have seen worse than that in the movie. For people that were a-holes and treated others crappy. My sister Cheryl was murdered in 1993 at only age 38 because she told lies on the wrong person. There's a murder mystery in the comment section of SheFreak. Okay. I love that. There's that person who's like, you know, I've seen horrible things. Like one time my sister was killed. She caused it herself by doing lies, which God hates.

Jordan, you need to send me the username because I want to see what else is on their channel. Yeah, you have to. Who are they following? Like, it's always somebody with one subscriber, but I'd like to see what else they're following. I watch She Freak and I listen to music reviews by Anthony Fantana.

I love the Try Guys. Yeah, I love Try Guys. my sister tried to tell a lie once and couldn't because she got murdered. Anyway, hey, now that we took a little trip to the comments section, let's do the Hunk Watch. It's Hunk Watch. Um, I mean, I'll go first. Moon, anybody else? Oh, yeah, she's a total babe. I'm going with the husband character. He was so hot like You want me to order you breakfast Emily?

Honestly, can I tell you that scene? It was like kind of sexy And then I was like I was was like, this has gone too far. Like this is too many things. They've already were proud. They didn't have to order that. But it was hot and I was also hungry. Maybe that's part of it.

Sure. Yeah. For me it's Blackie. I mean, I know he's a blackie boy. Say the full name, Matt. Blackie Fleming. It's Mr. Fleming. My people. The grandfather of Emily Fleming.

Blackie. He's like a bad guy. And he does do murder. And he's a bad guy in other ways. I think that he's got coercion. Yeah, he's not a good guy. But he is attractive. We're talking about hunks.

He is handsome. Let's be real, he's a hunk. He's a hunk. Now that we've cataloged the hunks, we're gonna rank this movie on a scale of one to 10 SuperLive commercials, but you're gonna have to wait because we're gonna do it's Free With Ads, we're gonna rank She Freak on a scale of one to 10

super loud commercials. Yeah, I'll go first with this one. Yeah, I like that this exists. I really, really like that the AGFA cleaned this up, made it look nice, made it available, cause it is very cool. I think to actually watch, it's maybe more of a five to me. You know, it is slow, it is something you could like,

ingest via clips and kind of get the idea, but like, I love that it's around. Not from the trailer though. The trailer is not giving a good description. No, not from the trailer. The trailer suggests something entirely different. But yeah, you could kind of like, if you wanted to like, just scrub to the end of this movie

and watch the totally insane last five minutes or so, I think you would have a lot of fun with that. Yeah, it's really cool, and I think if you do like retro stuff and the 60s, you're gonna love the fashion and the music and stuff like that. So yeah, a lot of reasons to like this movie, but just be warned, it is a little slow and weird. Matt, any thoughts?

She freak, more like three freak. I give it a three. I didn't like it. It's not a good movie. It's not fun to watch. Most of it is jazz. It made me hate jazz. Yeah. And the whole-

You were such a jazz guy before, huh? Yeah, I was a big jazz head, and now I don't like jazz no more. This movie did that to me. And the moral of it is bad. The moral is, you know how there are some women who will do anything to get ahead, including cheating on their husband,

and then having their lover murdered? And also, they're always prejudice against other people. Yeah, and they're all prejudiced. Well, isn't it nice to watch them fail? And having Greasy be the person who's standing up there left. The winner at the end? Yeah, I was just like, okay, so this movie is just, it's written by incels for incels.

I don't like it. Yeah, pretty much. But it does have, I think, a pretty woke stance on, you know, people with disabilities. I did like that. Yes. They are not the bad guys in the movie. So for the 60s, they did a great job. But I would never watch it. Yeah, it's just, fuck women.

Like, that's it. Emily, any thoughts? I'm going to do a three as well. I... okay, so sometimes with these kind of movies that I've never seen before and they're from the 60s or they're kind of, you know, D-list or B-lit or whatever, it's like, would it be cool to have on in the background of a party? I think this is even too boring to put on the background of a party. Like it's just people walking around. Like it's I don't know.

And at the beginning of the movie, I was like, oh, cool. This chick is somebody who's like, don't fucking sexually harass me in my dad in the diner job. I've got I'm going to move on. I'm going to show you and then just turns into a more and more horrible person throughout the movie. And I'm like, why? Why did she become this? Is it because she's a woman who didn't want to get married and wanted to pursue things on her own?

Is that it? I think that's kind of it. Should have gotten married. Should have gotten married. Hey, that's She-Freak. Let's do a little plug-in before we go. Hey, a couple weeks back for the Max Fun Drive. Hey, thanks to everybody who became members. So, so cool. We totally appreciate it. If you want us to become a member, you can still do it. Maximumfun.org slash join. Yeah, we did a

really cool live watch along of Fern Gully, The Last Rainforest. While you cannot watch that live, it's still up there on the Max Fun YouTube channel. So yeah, you can just put it up there, hit start on your Fern Gully, The Last Rainforest, and you can still experience the watch along. You can't like harass us in the comments,

but it was totally a fun time. Even if you could, we wouldn't check. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, go do whatever in the comments. So yeah, that is up there at the Max Fun YouTube channel. We'll throw a link in the show notes here. Hey, if you're gonna be in Chicago,

I am gonna be at the C2E2 Comic Book Festival, April 11th through the 13th. I'm gonna be at table F03, signing books, hanging out, selling books, come on by. And if you're in town, we're gonna be doing a live taping of the Jordan Jesse Go podcast, my other podcast, at the Sleeping Village on 411 at 8 p.m. You can get those tickets at sleeping-village.com.

I'm gonna be there, co-host Jesse Thorne gonna be there. Sam Riegel from Critical Role is gonna be one of our guests and Peter Segel from Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me is gonna be our other guest. So please come on out to that Chicago. Emily, got anything? You know what, I've, I got nothing. I feel like I've been doing too much stuff

and I'd like to not do as much. But my birthday is coming up on April 14th. So if you wanna just send cash to Maximum Fund, just like a stack of it. I don't care if it's ones, like give me those Showgirls ones, y'all. I don't care. I'm kidding.

I'm kidding. I'm not. But I don't know. You know what I'd like for my birthday is for you to find out what that movie is where the hands are all grabbing on the lady. Please help me to find that movie so that I can come again.

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Got them ants all over them. Oh, I spilled all this honey. Oh no, all my ants. I guess that's why they call me Aunt Titties. Matt, you got anything? May 7th, that's a Wednesday, San Francisco, come to Cobb's Comedy Club, I'll be headlining with my wife Francesca Fiorentini. Come out.

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