Free With Ads - The Apartment, with The Flop House

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

For the final week of the MaxFunDrive we invited Stuart and Dan from The Flop House to take a break from bad movies and watch the Best Picture winner "The Apartment" starring Jack Lemmon and Shirley MacLaine.Tune in next week when our movie will be... Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The MovieListen to The Flop House, it's very good!Catch Emily Fleming and Jordan Morris at Wondercon!Matt Lieb and Francesca Fiorentini will be in San Francisco at Cobb's Comedy Club on May 7th! Buy tickets here!   MaxFunDrive ends on March 28, 2025! Support our show now and get access to bonus content by becoming a member at maximumfun.org/join.

This This is Free With Ads, the podcast that asks the question, why pay the Criterion Channel eleven bucks a month to watch classic films when you could go online for free and watch one of Sight and Sound's greatest movies of all time as long as you don't mind it being constantly interrupted by ads for predatory pay-to-win mobile games with celebrity spokespeople whose presence in the ad will make you think, huh, I guess they're having money problems. I'm Jordan Morris. Oh yeah, and I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is The Apartment, the 1960 best picture winner about a lonely bachelor who apparently gets off on people fucking in his bed. With us as always is super producer Matt

who is often called the Billy Wilder of drops. He's so cute like a little Chihuahua. Hell yeah, what's up? Everybody's favorite character from this movie. We love that lady. And hey. Is that the barfly lady? Oh yeah. Holly, what's her name?

I looked it up, I was very interested. Oh yeah. In dating her? Yeah, yeah, going back in time and dating her. I'm not gonna date her. Or digging her up and dating her corpse. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Hey, these guys we're goofing around with. There are guests. It is Dan McCoy, it's Stuart Wellington of the Flophouse, Maximum Fund's own other movie podcast. Hi, guys. Hi. Hey, what's up? Now we watched Joe's Apartment, right?

That is free with ads, though, right now. Oh, man, I could have easily made that mistake. And I bet the content is very similar, although I have not seen. Was that MTV Studios like' first big movie? Well, it was a TV show for a little bit. I think it was on Liquid Television. Yeah, it was a short on Liquid Television that they then turned into a movie

because it had a lot of legs. I mean, it did in the form of cockroach legs, but. You know, a lot of people say that the apartment and Joe's apartment are in conversation with one another. They are movies in a dialogue. Hey! That going across time, yeah. It's the Max Fun Drive and we've got two great guests.

We're gonna talk about The Apartment, but first we're gonna get to know our guests in a segment we call Talk to Guest. Talk to Guest. talk to guests. Talk to guests. Uh, Dan, Stu, y'all watch bad movies for the Flophouse. That's the premise. They're not always bad in your mind, but that's the premise of the show, is the movies you're watching are bad.

Um, what are the movies that come to mind in the history of the show that you've watched where you've been like, people got wrong that's pretty good oh yeah I know recent one mafia mama starring Tony Collette that one rocks big fan of mafia, let's see the Bratz movie two thumbs up on that one brats with a cheese You're gonna you're gonna feel weird as a full-grown adult watching the Bratz movie So don't tell anyone about it, but you'll find that you're more delighted by it than you expect Yeah, have you'll find that you're more delighted by it than you expect. Yeah. Have you guys watched Sucker Punch? We did for them, for the podcast. Yeah.

I imagine you watched a lot of Zack Snyder movies for the book. Well, that that is free with ads currently. And I ask you because a lot of people have argued that it is a good movie. But it was like it was, you know, pummeled, I guess, by critics. What I would say is I feel like media literacy has gone down. So I might not trust those people. But well, I feel like the movie was trying something. It was trying to maybe make a point about sexism that then got subsumed in the cavalcade of sexist imagery

and storytelling that they used to make that point. Interesting, I haven't seen it yet, but I was interested to know your opinion on it. Because I think that's something that we have in common where it's like, you all watch things that people assume is bad, but then, but we watch things that are free that we hope are good, because they're free.

But so there's a little, there's a little bit of, you know, sibling love. The goal is to find joy in something, right? Try to find joy in this potentially free, potentially movie I paid money to rent like Craven the Hunter. I was really glad the list of movies that you guys have watched for your show though and being like, oh, we played this all wrong. We could have been watching good movies. It didn't matter.

It didn't matter. We do sometimes watch good movies. And then at the top of the show, Dan is like, I'm so sorry. Like, I know our show is called the Flophouse, and we do flops, but like, you know, please take it easy on us on the subreddit. Like, don't be mean to me. And I'm like, I don't give a fuck. I am super excited to watch this good ass movie. Who's this pathetic version of me that you're doing? Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, this is the like, the Dr. Jekyll version, right? I think, speaking of movies that both shows have done I feel like we need you to weigh in on the debate the question that can never be answered Sure. Yeah show girls good or terrible Do you have an opinion? I know the answer is both and neither super easy one Okay, it's a good movie I'm like a huge Paul Verhoeven fan for everything that isn't flesh plus blood. And I think it's a good one and I

think it's like intentionally what it like it's very campy and weird and like sure I think it's like I think it's good like I don't I wouldn't argue that it's like I'm not gonna go to it as my textbook for I don't know like I Don't know like good politics and gender stuff Review I do have it on my Shelf back behind me, but I think you have a physical physical copy of show I do a friend of ours wrote the essay

I think it's I think Christina wrote it. Oh, okay Christina Caccio for the programmer at the night Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm making that up. I have it on this you have it on VHS or is that a laser disc? Got on blu-ray those titties on blu-ray This is a... Got on Blu-ray, those titties on Blu-ray. Yeah, I do. 4K full frontal. 4K double D. That's the aspect ratio I like.

I know 4K's not an aspect ratio. Don't come from me in the comments. I think the problem for me is that Verhoeven is like a satirist and then he's making a script by Joe Esterhaus who does not have that in him. So, so weirdly confused. I don't know what I was thinking.

I don't think she has a... It's okay. It's so yeah. Well, I think I'm ready to read the essay. That sounds awesome. I do want to say this. I think that there's a lot of movies that one best picture that people argue are very bad movies So I'm very interested to see what you think about this best picture winner and whether it's really great

Do you have do you have best picture winners like ready to go that you want to drag like crash or I don't know green book or? Why did you just name two really good ones? Yep, green Book solved racism, guys. Yeah, you're right. Crash laid the foundation, and then Green Book spiked the ball, no more racism. I still haven't seen Green Book, but my wife watched it on a plane,

and she would tell me all the changes in the dialogue that they had to use on the plane, like all that. Well, Viggo Mortensen, hubba Hubba, I don't care. I'll watch anything that he's at. He's my ultimate hunk watch. So I, you know. I mean, he's amazing. Have you seen those pictures of him on the Lord of the Rings?

It's him and Karl Urban during the Lord of the Rings press tour. And they're in like a Japanese like they're in a Japanese model store and they're in like a Japanese, like, they're in a Japanese model store and they're holding like giant Gundams and stuff and they're so excited, but they're also both wearing like anti Iraq war, like t-shirts that look very homemade. And I'm like, I want to do both of you guys right now.

When you said have you seen, I was sure you were going to say, have you seen the nude knife fight from Eastern Promises? Eastern Promises or the sex scenes from History of Violence. Like, why is everybody trying to fuck on a staircase? That blows my mind. There's so many staircase fuckings in movies and I'm like, really?

Why? You got Viggo Mortensen, put him on a bed. Flat ground right at the bottom of those stairs. Yeah, either go up or down, make a decision. You're close to a couch, I know it. I think Vigo's just like, I've fucked so much in my life, I need a challenge. I don't, you know.

Yeah. Before we get into it, can I ask what the Flophouse cocktail of the night is? You guys both have a very attractive looking cocktail. Dan made this one. Since we're doing a Max Fun Drive streamed tomorrow night, it's a thing we called the Slop House, where Dan cooks up some slop

and I make sure we get sloppy with some cocktails. Nice! We do it over on Twitch. And I'm providing the cocktail that time, so Dan decided to provide a very delicious cocktail, but what is it? This is a corn and oil, which is rum, velvet filet and lime. Why did you have such a roast?

Well, yes, corn and oil doesn't make it sound delicious. Also, if you put that into your Google search browser, you're going to get some messed up shit. There's no oil involved. I think it's some archaic use of oil. Velvet filet are numb is the ingredient. It's like in a lot of tiki drinks. Yeah, it's a tiki thing.

Okay. Well, hey, now that we've gotten an update. Now you know us. Now we know you. We've talked to guests and we could talk about the movie, the topic of this episode, and we're gonna do that. But before we talk about the apartment, we should mention this movie deals with suicide, so if that's something you don't want to hear about, we're gonna play some music and give

you a chance to find another episode. We're back, it's Free With Ads. We're here with two thirds of the Flophouse. Make a noise guys. Uh oh. Beautiful noise. Ruh buh buh buh. Woo hoo. Guys, this is the show. Why do we need to talk about the apartment?

We could just make noises. I mean, that's arguably been my podcast career. As someone who has gotten into like, Doing mouth sounds? No, getting a lot of used LPs. I'm just astounded by the industry that used to exist around sound effects records. How many of them were out there back in the old days?

Weird. I don't know anything about that. I assume it was like a lot of it was for industry stuff, for like radio. But also, I think just there was a bigger, I don't know, industrial complex behind people having haunted houses and how we. And just being like.

Oh, I definitely remember haunted house sound effect like albums, because if you had like Halloween decorations and stuff, you play it for trick or treaters. Exactly. But is there like an artist that is the like. Yeah, his name's Kevin McCallister. He's a curator and he's really trying to keep those wet bandits from entering. Yeah. All right. OK, OK.

Hey, the apartment, we thought it'd be fun since you all do some of the worst movies of all time to talk about this movie, which is often cited on many best of all time lists. Should we go around the horn and see it, say if we've seen this movie and what our experience with it is? I hope you've all seen it by now. I have seen it. I like this movie quite a bit. I watch it periodically.

My high school girlfriend was a big black and white movie fan. She loved Audrey Hepburn. So we watched a lot of these and then kissed. But nothing more Because we did not want to anger anger the Lord Yeah floppers have you guys you guys have seen the apartment I think this is the third time I've seen it and each time I see it

I think like I still love it But you saw me see it I feel like the comedy goes down for me and the sadness goes up in the movie Yeah This is this movie gets mentioned as like funniest movie of all time a lot or like in the funniest movies of all time And like when you see those like Yeah, thank you have you seen Freddy got fingered And like in all the you know when like on in the Oscars or whatever They'll have all these

hooray for Hollywood montages, and they'll always show Jack Lemmon making spaghetti. Like that thing is all over. And that is a very cute scene and it's very funny, but this movie is mostly about infidelity and suicide. Yeah. Also, the spaghetti thing kind of reminds me of Benny and June, where he made like the grilled cheese with the iron.

Yeah, I'm getting real Benny and June vibes. Yeah, yeah. I've actually never seen this movie before. Me neither. Okay. I was, my wife had seen it, but she didn't really remember it. So we watched it together last night. We watched it on Tubi.

So this two hours and five minute movie was about a crisp 245 with that. So I probably prematurely took the edible in the middle of the movie, but I will have to say, yeah, I loved it. Like, it's great. And it was this was such a great treat to be exposed to because this is You know this is the sort of I don't usually look back toward the this far back to movies to watch and it was it was fun And it's a New York movie. I'm such like Sucker for New York people. It's kind of like the third lead of the movie some say

You're thinking of Fred McMurray, oh, right, yeah, Fred McMurray is the third lead. I thought that was New York City. The guy, the boss, that's New York City, right? I mean, he kind of looks like, if I had to describe New York City in the, like, what, 60s, 50s, I'd probably describe Fred McMurray. Yeah, building of a man. Legion jar, yeah.

Emily, you've seen this before? No, I've never seen it before and honestly like Okay, 1960 feels like color existed, right? So I think there was some color movies and still some black and white movies like Psycho came out around this time It was still black and white and yeah, but yeah, I think there were color movies Yeah, it was a choice that people could make now they don't make that choice Yeah, that's what's really interesting to me because it's like when you think about technicolor like existing and it's like, OK, Wizard of Oz is like two decades before this movie. Like, why would you still choose?

I guess it's cheaper for it. Yeah. I think I think that's that's the story about psychos that Alfred Hitchcock paid for it himself and shot it on black and white because it was cheaper, but also it but also so effective in the movie anyway. Right, and it's also gore factor with blood. I would imagine if it was in color, it would be too gory to be in theaters at that time. Matt, apartment? Seen it?

No. Lived in one? I've lived in so many. I'm in an apartment right now, so I'm really related to this. Why would I watch a movie? It's where I live. I've lived in so many, I'm in an apartment right now, so I'm really related to them. Why would I watch a movie? It's where I live. And I only knew about this movie

because I'm currently doing a re-watch of Mad Men, and they go out to see this movie and they talk a lot about it in that show. So, and they're coming at it from the angle of like, it really is depressing to work in an office and be the other lady having an affair with a married man. So me watching this movie, I was really looking for the comedy,

but I couldn't find it amidst all of the horribly depressing shit happening in it. I felt like a cautionary tale more than it did a comedy, in a way, I don't know. Also one of the most confusing premises I think I've ever seen did a comedy, in a way. I don't know. Also, one of the most confusing premises I think I've ever seen in a movie, so confusing that I feel like you just had to live in the 60s in New York to understand

why you wouldn't just get a hotel. I don't fully understand it, but I went with it, and I'm glad I watched it. Yeah, if there were easy access to hotels, nothing in this movie would happen. Let's talk about it. It's like if cell phones existed during Die Hard or whatever. Sure, yeah.

The hotel had not been... Why doesn't Jason Voorhees just burn down the house with all the teenagers in it? Yeah, exactly. The hotel was invented in 1965. It was a hole in the ground and you paid one slice of cheesecake to save it. Why don't the wet bandits just use a sniper rifle to kill Kevin McCallister? Yeah, why don't they have a gun?

The wet bandits had a gun, if hotels existed. Yeah, yeah, and then they'd be like Blue Steel. They'd be like Ron Silver and Blue Steel just blasting everything. Yeah. So this movie starts out, as we mentioned, New York City, some beautiful shots of black and white New York in the 60s We hear some voice called the Big Apple Jordan real quick. Just letting you know

the insider info LA guys, so I don't know what you call New York, you know wasn't free with ads But earlier today, I watched to live and die in LA, so I feel pretty bi-coastal right Hey, it's New York our main character is given some voiceover CC Baxter played by Played by Jack Lemmon. They call him buddy boy around the office. He's working It was getting on my nerves how much they said that. Do people do? My wife was asking me, does anybody actually call someone else Buddy Boy? Like, is that actually a thing? This has this has so much great old timey isms in it.

Buddy Boy being one of them. But yes, it is repeated constantly. He works in an office just just clanking away at some sort of number machine. Insurance is what I'm sure of. Yeah. And yeah, exactly. He's moving words around for Cold Harbor.

He's trying to find it. Cold Harbor. It's going to pay off at some point, guys. Don't worry. This is a movie that every time I watch it, I want to be inside it, this is one of those I wanna live in it movies. And I know this office is supposed to seem soul crushing,

I know it's supposed to seem like he's this anonymous drone, but I'm like, I wanna fucking put on a tie and go to that office after like- Can you imagine stable work? God, I knew it man. Well, first off, I love that there's this weird little like hat nook where everybody hangs

their coats and hats like right by the door. The other thing is like at first I'm like, are they shooting him in front of a projection screen or are they just in a like a huge room full of people like that's wild, right?

Like it's so like it has so much depth and like it just looks beautiful and there's just so many people I think they use some force perspective tricks I think I'm calling this from my memory but I can't say for sure they put like Elijah Wood back there yeah that's right then Ian McKellen looks huge in the office yeah so yeah so he's he's an office great in the office, by the way. He would have gotten along with Dwight. He probably wouldn't have gotten along with Jim.

Yeah. And you know he would have had a crush on Pam. Yeah, of course. And he probably wouldn't have. Seems like it wouldn't have been great to be Pam in this movie. Oh yeah. Sure, sure. Pam's trying to kill herself.

These are your only options. The guy's in the office. Well, I don't know. movie The guys in the office well, I don't know the thing is these guys have mattresses that aren't on their floors, so Married and they might be married and the mattress may belong to someone else But as soon as we lost wearing a hat everywhere we went we also lost bed frames We know exactly what the worst hat is and I can't wait to get to it. Oh yeah. Cool. So as we've alluded to, Jack Lemmon, he's a doormat,

he's a perpetual nice guy, he cannot stick up for himself. So he has this kind of shitty arrangement with the married men in his office where they, he's a bachelor and they use his apartment to fuck their mistresses yes that is the premise of this movie that your mom loves so he just like has to go out in the cold and like sleep on a bench when these like drunk old men bring their mistresses home the first guy the first guy who does it is you know just what generic business guy and the girl He's taken home has the New York lady voice

It's such a trigger for me, I love it so much Marissa tome and my cousin Vinny I'm done like I'm One or two degrees of Marissa Tomei and my cousin Vinnie. I'm done like I'm It's over for me. You just want a girl who works for mr. Mucznik and wants to date Seymour Dan and Stu you're from New York to do this is what all the women talk like in New York, right? Yeah, all of them all of them. I don't know when my wife hangs around her Her like stepsisters. she has four Bensonhurst Italian step sisters, like all of their accents start going super intense and it's great. It feels like they're all doing, I don't know, like, it sounds like all of a sudden they've

all become British actresses who are coming over and doing a New York voice. Yeah. That makes sense. It has become more homogenous, but this morning I had to take the cat to get some dental work, and while I was over there I was like, oh, I'll have food at this diner. And it was one of these diners run by a guy that's so New York that you think he's mad,

but he's just an enthusiastic diner guy. Yeah, he talks at everyone, you're like, why is he yelling at me? Oh, he's saying an enthusiastic diner guy. Who like, yeah, he like talks at everyone. You're like, why is he yelling at me? Oh, he's saying something very nice, but he's saying it in a diner voice. What was he saying? Hey, I'm looking for beer. I cherish you. You're a cherished regular customer,

and I wish you were the reason I do this. You want some more coffee, buddy? He's like that kind of. You don't look like you need it. You seem super alert. Oi, you're about to get a fucking five star review. Emily, you lived in New York for a while. Did you talk like this when you were in New York?

Yeah, no, I do. Remember when I moved there, that I did not think I had a southern accent and everybody made fun of it, like when I was there. Yeah. And then I worked very hard to try to get rid of it. And then I moved here to LA and then it happened again. They were like, it's still Southern. I'm like, what? I think New Yorkers stopped making fun of me. So why is it? Why am I having to start over again? What the fuck?

When I moved to, when I moved to New York, my Midwestern accent became more and more Southern, because I guess I just wanted to stand out from the crowd. You know, Dan? Well, I also have fake, I had just gotten my implants in my teeth put in, and so I have a little bit of a lisp. It's like a consonant S,

and the first agent I had was like, you gotta get rid of that accent, and you gotta get rid of a lisp. It's like a consonant S and the first agent I had was like, you got to get rid of that accent and you got to get rid of that list. We got to get you a speech therapist. And I was like, what? And then I had no idea that I had a lisp or an accent. And I called my mom in tears going, my voice is horrible. And then, and then your mom's like, yeah, totally. Yeah, she's, well, no. And then he said. Well, finally. He set me out for an audition anyway the next week.

He forgot. No, it's not a way. It's all about therapy. He forgot about it. He like just forgot. They just like to be an asshole. A guy who sounds like Joe Pesci said I sounded weird. Yeah, pretty much. That was pretty much it. So, so as we mentioned, his boss, Fred McMurray, calls him into his office.

Fred McMurray, a giant guy, easily the tallest person in the movie. It's really weird that his name is Jeff, by the way. Is it? Yeah, it's Jeff. Like, no, I mean, is it weird? Why is that with Sheldrake? Sheldrake? I don't know. Like, Jeff feels like a weird name for a boss. It's like George should have been his name or something. Yes, thank you.

Something Moore. Emily gets it. Okay. I didn't know there was this boss. It's like if his name was like Doug, you're like I don't... I'm like I'm a boss. I'm like I'm a boss. I was not aware of.

Jeff is not a 60s boss. Jeff is a guy you run a paddleboard from in 1994. Thank you. boss Jeff is a guy you run a paddleboard for from in 1994 This is a Jeff who we will learn like drives drives a woman to the brink of madness with your own dong skills I'd imagine The dong skills on show Drake. It's all flubber down. There's a thing I mean, that's how we got three sons, right? Good good Fred McMurray pulls guys. Yeah, got any double indemnity stuff So Fred Fred McMurray starts using

Using the apartment for sex with a person we will later learn is Jack Lemons office crush with a person we will later learn is Jack Lemmon's Office Cruss. I almost called her Shirley Manson from Garbage. No, Shirley McBrain. I feel like he would also have a crush on Shirley Manson. Oh yeah, sure. It'd be the same songs too, like I Would Die For You. Oh yeah, sure. Stupid girl.

I'm only happy when it rains, but it never rains, so I'm gonna take a bunch of sleeping pills. Anyway, so he's sad sacking around. He makes, there's all these little signifiers to kind of point to him as a sad bachelor. He makes a TV dinner, which looks fucking delicious. This 60s TV dinner looks like fried chicken you would get from a pop-up. It looks so delicious. This 60s TV dinner looks like fried chicken you would get from a pop-up.

It looks so good. Yeah. We need to go back is what you're saying. We need to go back to that time. This movie also mentions frozen pizza at one point. And I'm like, when was frozen pizza invented? Like right then. Yeah, yeah.

Like this was the era of frozen everything. I had no idea that that was like as early as it was it was invented by Mario de jour now Yeah, you think eating a frozen pizza was like driving a Tesla. It was just the coolest Current thing you could do most cutting edge And there were no problems with it the people people who made the frozen pizza. Unquestionably, yeah. They were like, this is what they eat in space. Cool. There's a little shot of Jack Lemmon in his pajamas going to bed and you see very quickly that he was reading a Playboy. I wonder if this was supposed to signify that he was jacking off. I wonder if this was the secret, like we can't show him jacking off,

but we're gonna see him with the playboy. So you kinda, he's like a sad jack-off. Well, there was a lot of clues to sexual behavior. I mean, the whole like, they're using the apartment. What are they doing? Just necking? There's no way, you could do that anywhere. So it's implied that, you know,

nobody's a virgin in this movie. By the way, necking, in outdated terms, I read a lot. It's when you put your wiener under her chin. No. It's yes. Wienering, how about that? I read it so much, because as a kid,

I read all these outdated things in a way that I Feel like we were exposed to so many outdated things in a way that younger people are like no we got plenty of new things Right, but yeah, we need to read we don't need to read copies of the boxcar children Our parents get from the Friends of the Library Store for a dollar But I would imagine people like literally like rubbing their necks sort of together like sort of Like the neck scissoring was sort of what I was imagining. Oh yeah, the neck can be sensitive. I bet you can put your neck on another. I think it was like you're making out with like kissing people's necks and stuff.

Yeah. You know. Also the hickey which is such a weird thing that I don't understand why people do. I got one and I was like... Intentionally or was it unintentionally? Sometimes they happen unintentionally when you're necking super hard. Well I didn't really know what was happening. It was just kind of like, what's alright I'm gonna let this person do, work out what they're doing. And then it was like this big thing and I was like like is this what it is? It's just marking someone. I think it's just marking someone to be like I made out with that person. Yeah, my high school day was like I'll let him suck on my neck. He's wearing a really cool insane clown posse t-shirt.

Honestly, that's about right. So, so Sheldrake and Shirley MacLaine, they go, they meet at their secret place. It's the Rickshaw. It is a Chinese restaurant that also serves like tiki drinks. Tiki bar, yeah. I, I want to go to this bar so every time I watch this movie, I'm just like, Jesus Christ, take me to this bar. Take me to this bar with a problematic theme.

I just want to hang out. It's got Jordan written all over it. It is. I mean, next time you're in town, I have Tiki bars. I can take you to. Oh, yeah, let's do it. Oh, yeah. You have to scratch this itch, I think. Yeah, there's I also I also kind of love that he went. He leaves a tip on the table. He tips the coach, that girl, and he tips the piano player like he's tipping

everybody. Oh, yeah, sure. You're like, this guy can't be that bad. He's pretty nice to the piano player. Like he's tipping everybody. I love it. It's great. You're like, this guy can't be that bad. He's pretty nice. He tips the piano guy. There's something, yeah, I like a tipping culture. As a bartender, bar owner. Yeah, sure. I like this.

Well, I mean, it used to be kind of a big shot thing to be someone who tips everyone. It makes you look cool. And I think people forget that, that it makes you look like a big shot when you make sure to tip everyone. And like no one thinks about that anymore, I think. I just don't know who to tip.

Like I know you're supposed to tip your waiter, but are you supposed to, who else, you tip the host? You tip the super, you tip the piano player. The super in your building, you should tip your super. Oh, fuck off, I'm not doing that. No. I'm gonna tip my landlord. I wouldn't tip the landlord.

I'm gonna tip my boss. I'm gonna tip the cops. Tip the piano player. Oh yes, for sure. I tip the USPS delivery people at Christmas. At Christmas, yeah, you leave a little money in your mailbox. Yeah, I tip my trainer.

I live like 25 bucks in a little envelope. I mailbox. Yeah. I took my trainer. I didn't even know that. I leave like 25 bucks in a little envelope. I don't know. I'll tip a cow. Yeah. Hey, thanks for all the milk. Buy yourself something nice, Bessie. And then you push it. And then I push the cow over after I've given it $5.

I have a laundromat right next door that's 24 hours. And there's this little short old lady who's always there and I tipped her this Christmas and now every time I go in there she's like, how are you, where have you been? Like she's so sweet to me. And I'm like, oh my God, this is so nice. The tip.

I mean, I tip everybody. I tip the people in my laundromat, at the grocery store, everyone. I can't help it. Oh, grocery store, that's interesting. Interesting. Yeah, you know, whatever. Like they're on their feet all day.

Yeah, you walk, I've seen, listen, I've hung out with Stu, he walks around with a wad. The man has a wad wherever he goes. He works. Peel off a couple of clams. Oh yeah. Which is why we need you to go to maximumfund.org slash join so we can make enough money for us to tip

just everyday people we see in our lives. For stewarding habits. Yeah. Yeah, I need my tipping habit support. There's naked people on the internet that need tips. Thank you. Oh yeah, well of course. They have only the fans.

They have only fans to rely on. So yeah, so they're at this bar, they're like having, you know, they're having an affair. It's been going on a long time. He, she like said no, but he wants her back. And we go. And she wants to be with him, but she also knows that it's untenable for,

she doesn't want to make him leave his wife for this. Like she is hung up on him She like she says she doesn't want him to leave his wife for her But I mean, I'm sure there's a part of her where she's like if he were to leave his wife I'd consider like I'd love to be with him. I Really? She doesn't because like like what strings her along is that he keeps saying that he's going to leave his wife and then When at the end he is forcibly removed from his wife, he like acts like he left his wife, but it's because she left him.

She learned about his infidelity. Then the character does go to him. Yeah, I mean, but she says it in, I think, in this scene, the first scene where she's like, you know, I don't want to make you leave. Like, I didn't ask you to leave your what? Right. I think that she's very smart is the thing. Like, and she does know better in her head, but she's addicted to the drama. Like, he's addicted to it.

He's a stud, right? That's the whole idea. I want to sing the praises of this character, because like, I mean, first off, you know, Shirley McClain immediately lovable in the role, but also like, she plays this character who's very nice, you can see why, like, Lemon has sort of glommed under her as his crush, and she's genuinely sweet, but she's also sadder, but not yet wiser, like, she's also sadder but not yet wiser like she's been through a lot of shit and she is kind of like she hasn't figured out how to live her life in a non messy way yet yeah well and she's also a single woman in

1960s well yeah it's like she's being by people But it's just she's very smart and funny. And like I know she talks about how she can't spell, which I didn't love that. But there. But I think it's just clear that like you get there. He string her along over and over again. And it's like until you have that experience, you don't really know what's happening, because I've definitely had that and I've fallen for it way more than once. Yeah, Dan was bragging about how many women he's surrounded by. I definitely identify with Shirley MacLaine's character a lot. So listen,

they you know they're wrong for you and then every time they take you to the Chinese restaurant and buy you the fried shrimp and then I'm, I don't know what to do. I know this isn't going anywhere, but he's buying me shrimp. I know he's a liar, but I love crab rangoon. Oh my God, don't make me hungry. No. Make her hungry. I want to see what happens.

Ah, ah! Oh, she's eating a microphone. What the hell? She shot a bullet that went to New York, like, wanted. What the hell? She shot a bullet that went to New York? Like wanted? Good movie. So yeah, so the bar in this I want to go to, but you know where else I fucking would love to just be inside if old movie virtual reality ever gets made?

The Christmas party. The fucking office Christmas party. The fucking office Christmas party. Everyone is singing Jingle Bells like it just came out. I don't know when Jingle Bells came out, but everyone in the office is like, Jingle Bells, they love it. It's like Pink Pony Club, they just can't stop yelling Jingle Bells and getting fucked up in the office.

And the New York lady, this lady, she's like dancing on one of the desks and stripping and throwing her clothes to her co-workers. HR nightmare, I know, but as far as fun fantasy of what an office is. They had an invented human resource. Yeah, I don't think there was any HR at this time. I think the first scene with Shirley MacLaine, someone pinches her ass and she's just like, naughty, naughty.

So I don't think there was anyone they could complain to yet. So this is kind of when, you know, the Fred McMurray's downfall starts. Shirley MacLaine meets his- He's a tragic figure, really. Yes, exactly. Exactly, the hamlet of his day,

the hamlet who can't stop getting his dick wet. He, so. Indecision is kind of his downfall, though. She meets his old secretary, who was like his old side piece. And speaking of the great old timeyisms in this movie, the secretary asks if they're doing the uh-hum, old ring-a-ding-ding.

I mean, does it get better, is there a better old timey slang than the old ring-a-ding-ding? Why is it ring-a-ding-dong in there? Like, it's like... Oh, yeah, when did dong... She's been reading Adam Like it's like. Oh yeah, when did dong. She's been reading Adam Levine's sex.

Something. I remember that, that was fun. Yeah, that was fun. The end of Fidelity ain't great, but good texts. So, you know, this is kind of starting, the women are starting to figure out like what's going on, but Jack Lemmon, because he's being such a nice guy, he's getting all these promotions,

and he's like taking Shirley MacLaine inside and trying to like impress her with his promotions, and he takes out his new executive hat. It's a bowler hat, and I think easily the worst hat in the movie. Woo! The worst hat. There it is. Amen, yep.

And I'm like, with this hat, I half expected a green apple to be in front of his face. Son of man joke. It is a son of man joke. Very good. But it's a bad hat, but also represents how he, you know, isn't like, is not seeing the emotional stuff that's going on because he's so concerned about his career. Anyway, so she kind of shoots him down

and he goes to drink in another fucking amazing old bar. Oh my god, am I an alcoholic? He realizes, yeah, I mean, I love that bar. God, that bar is great. It's so great, but he realizes that she has been in his apartment with Sheldrake because she hands him a mirror to look at the hat with and that little compact was one he found in his apartment.

Yes. Yeah. And he, I mean, the interesting thing about this movie is I think that like Lemon is a nice guy in that he's nicer than all the other guys. Yeah. He's not that nice a guy until sort of like very late in the movie. Part of the interesting thing about this is he's perfectly willing to go along with this shit because it helps his career.

He's like part of the boys club, even if he's on the outside of it kind of, and he only gets mad because he's like, oh, that's the girl that I like. And so he kind of, you know, he learns to be more of a mensch as one of the characters advises him to be, but it takes him a while. Yeah, being a pushover does not make you a nice guy. Like, it's, I think that is a good message. It took me a long time to learn that shit.

Yeah, no, I know. And yeah, I think as, you know, as a, you think as a beta, I do see his like, and there's a great, there's a great scene coming up about, that really I think gets at what it means to be a total fucking beta, where she is trying to unload all of her stuff on him. And he sets up a game of gen rummy, and he is just frantically trying to move away

from the emotional stuff to play gen rummy and to make her laugh. And I'm like, oh my God, this is like, you know, every guy or person, it me, who is afraid of emotions and just wants to do a silly fun thing because you don't wanna talk about emotions. It's like such a great scene about that, I think. Anyway, so yeah, he is a fucking interesting character,

but yeah, definitely like not the perfect romantic lead for most of this movie. I think that's what it's, you know, I think it is showing that journey of him being like a guy who can't do this to a guy who can. But yeah, it is like a little jarring if you feel like this is going to be a straight ahead rom-com where they're both great, but they're a key especially is not great for the whole movie. Anyway, so it kind of like the shit is trying starting to hit the fan. So at this other bar, it's a Christmas movie,

Santa comes in, this happened to me once at the, oh God, that bar, it's on Hollywood Boulevard, the Frolic Room, I was in there on Christmas Eve. Great bar. I was in there on Christmas Eve, Santa and a couple of elves come in from the mall across the street, and as soon as they come in, everybody in the bar is just like, ah!

I will remember it always. Ah! He's real! What? And like Santa like bought a round for everybody, so much fucking fun. Sick, yeah. Anyway, so he meets this woman who I think Stewart alluded to earlier.

This is another New York lady and her husband has been taken prisoner by Castro Very small husband and then I was like oh god how old is Castro that's really crazy. Oh, yeah, that was the year I mean it was 59 New Year's Eve when he took over if if Godfather 2 was historically accurate. So yeah, so this is a movie set when he had just taken power. Yeah, this shows how much historical context I know. I love this because this is the perfect sad potential hookup

because Lemon's interested in, well not really interested in her, but he's like, I don't know, this lady seems to want to have sex with me and I'm Mad about the woman I like so yeah, we might go home together and she's like, yeah my husband's in Cuba Trolling for guys Yeah, so then he's just repeating the same behavior of the people he loathes Yeah, you know and yeah, yeah, so he takes this woman home and Shirley MacLaine is there. She broke up with, or she was broken up with by Sheldrake

and so she took a bunch of his sleeping pills. So she took a bunch of his sleeping pills and she's like, you know, passed out and almost dead in his bed. This movie has a very cavalier attitude towards suicide. Like he makes jokes later about how he tried to kill himself and like Some of it's kind of funny But like it you know I think if this is something that you're not into definitely just know that this movie has a you know

You know not super advanced And there's like moments where he like goes into his bathroom before she goes in there And he takes all the razor blades and puts them in his breast pocket, which seems insane. I thought he was gonna chop his wiener off. Yeah. His breast pocket? Well, cause he would slice through the pocket. That's where I keep my wiener.

Gravity would pull it directly toward the wiener. Oh, and then she would have to take care of him. Then she would have to take care of him. No, I get it. I honestly like that. A gravity guillotine where the razor blade just keeps falling down, cuts your dick off. Yeah, I have an idol model.

I have an anatomical model to show you. Sure, we'll do it after the show. So we're almost at the part of the movie where Jack Lemmon chops off his wiener with his own razor blade. We're gonna talk about it right after this. Hey, we're Free With Ads. They're the Flophouse and it's the Max Fun Drive. MaximumFun.org slash join.

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And there's also special gifts that we'll tell you about very soon. Back to the show. We're back, it's Free With Ads. The Flophouse is also here. We're talking about the apartment. Yeah, so Shirley MacLaine, she's having a hard time. Luckily, Jack Lemmon loves next door to a doctor, the guy we mentioned earlier, who tells him to become a mensch. So the doctor helps her.

He has a kind of funny wife who says that Jack Lemmon is a good time Charlie, just another fucking great old timey-ism. That's a fuck boy for 1960s. 100%. Yes, exactly. Thank you for translating. Yeah, you're just a good time fuck boy. And so then this is where all kind of these,

we've alluded to these others. Back then it was GTC Island. Or what? Good time fuck boy island. Good time Charlie Island. Yeah. Nikki Glaser trapped on good time Charlie Island. It feels like they're trapped there with her

rather than the other way around. She's like a Rorschach. She's like a Rorschach. That's the kind of joke I like. Watch me based. Yes. But anyway, so you know, so he is trying to cheer her up. They're playing gin rummy.

He's like making her this very cute spaghetti dinner with a tennis racket to strain all the spaghetti. Very funny, very cute, but it's him avoiding important things. Real quick, what do you guys think of this apartment kitchen? I thought it was pretty cool. I like it. The whole apartment is great. Yeah, it's an incredible apartment.

I can see why all of his coworkers wanna fuck in it. Yeah. It is a nice apartment. Yeah, incredible apartment. I could see why all of his coworkers want to fuck in it. Yeah. Yeah. Nice apartment. Yeah. But as a bed frame. Yeah, I always when I when I'm looking for a place to fuck, I'm like, can I be surrounded by other people's stuff? Yeah. Just really in my experience, a single guy like a bachelor's apartment usually has like a black leather couch, a single black stand up lamp and then the three room TV.

And the black leather couch has a split in it where there's like stuffing coming out every fucking time. They got it from a friend. It's vinyl. Like, it's not leather. Where was where was Jack Lemmon's Xbox one? Yeah, it's just on the youth section. Actually, can I mention something? Towards the beginning of the movie, one of the guys who's leaving, he's like,

"'Oh, I drank all your booze.'" Also, what happened to those cheese crackers you had around? And I'm like, what? What are cheese crackers back then, other than a cracker with cheese on it? And why are we leaving cheese out? Like, I don't know.

I think they had just invented Ritz crackers. Really? The ones with cheese in the middle. Hey, let me check the food section of the apartment. No, I think it's just like cheese flavored, like a Cheez-It. You know? Oh, OK. I assume that's what they meant.

I know. It just felt very modern with the TV dinner, with the frozen pizza, with the cheese crackers. I was like, what is? Is 1960s?'s not the time was this a sci-fi we're inventing new technology that doesn't exist futures now Emily and if they're thinking so futuristic why have why isn't the case for women changed yet when things are perfect yeah yeah we finally figured it out. It was like watching Nine to Five not that long ago

and being like, Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah. The same if not worse. Same story over and over. Dabney Coleman's still fucking us all over. Yeah, dude. So yeah, so we're kind of coming up on the end of the movie. Sheldrake's wife found out via the secretary,

and he moved out, but he's still like dickin' Shirley MacLaine around, and like won't marry her, and still like wants to be a single guy, and is still using Jack Lemmon's apartment. So at this New Year's Eve party, she realizes what a piece of shit he is, and she runs to Jack Lemmon's house.

She, again, one more fucking dark ass joke before the movie's over. She thinks she hears a gunshot, but it's him popping champagne. She thinks he shot himself. And then she comes in, he says, I love you. He takes out the Jim Romney cards, and she says, shut up and deal.

And there you go, and yet another moment that will be in every Hooray for Hollywood montage. From now until the end of time. Unromantic. This was specifically romantic because he was doing, Jack Lemmon's character was doing all of this to get ahead in his career and these people were just holding it over his head.

All of these dudes in the office were just holding it over his head and then he finally lets it go and that's when Shirley MacLaine's character is like, oh He's hot This is the newly what did the cat think of the movie? Over here I want to see that cat Oh, it's a very cute cat. Look at him go.

Oh yeah, let's continue to enjoy Dan's beautiful cat, but also let's do our famous segment, Hunk Watch. Oh, it's Hunk Watch. Let's go around the horn and talk about who we think the hunk of the movie is. Emily, did you have any strong opinions one way or the other? The doctor.

Yes. Oh, the doctor. Oh yeah. Emily, did you have any strong opinions one way or the other? The doctor! Yes! Oh, the doctor! Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. A mensch. I mean, I want someone to slap me in the face. It's like, here's the thing. Yeah, there's a lot.

And do poppers under your nose. Nobody... That happens in the movie, by the way. We should mention that. Oh, yeah. So when she's, you know, they're trying to bring her back from taking too many pills he takes care of her. He like, you know, he's so sweet.

Like I don't know, he's a sweet man. He's very dedicated, good doctor, nice man. And he does slap her in the face quite a bit. Like over and over and over and maybe goes on a little long in my opinion but Just to like get her to wake up and I'm like All right And he's He admits that like he shares everything is with his wife who then treats him like a good time Charlie for the rest of the

Time yeah, his wife is cool too, I like her. But he's handsome, he's very handsome in his little robe and his glasses and he's tall and cares about people. And I started thinking about it when he was taking care of Shirley MacLaine, they had to keep her awake, you know? And so he's walking her up and down the room

to be like, we're gonna go for a walk. And I'm like, wow, this is when doctors just wanted to like, take care of people and didn't really care about being rich because he's still living in an apartment. He did charge people, though he was like, I'm going to bill you. Like, he's going to bill you. But it was just his dedication to her was so sweet. And he was judging Jack Lemmon's's character but he not too much like he was still very like I don't know kind

and understanding I oh so hot so hot Dan do you have a feeling about the hunks of this movie yeah I mean I clarified with Jordan that we're talking hunks of all gender so I hate to be boring but I have to go with Shirley MacLaine just because I have such a crush on her in this movie. Like they don't glam her up but she's still like one of the most gorgeous people you'll ever see and on top of that like you know. Little pixie cut little little yes Some fire do and you know as a as also a broken person. I'm attracted to the sadness

Stude you have feelings I'm gonna say actor Ray Walson you would know him as Mr. Hand from what's the? Fast Times? Fast Times? Oh, I thought you were talking about that film where the guy fucks a horse. Freddie got fingered? Freddie. Oh no, that's Mr. Hands. I'm on the wrong podcast for a Mr. Hands poll.

So in this case, he's one of them good time Charlie, upper middle management taking advantage of that apartment. And I'm like, that dirty dog, you know? That dirty dog. Matt, do you have any thoughts on the hunks of the movie? I agree with Emily. I think it's got to be both the Dreyfusses who live next door, both Dr. Dreyfuss's who live next door to both the Dr. Dreyfuss and his wife

His wife was amazing when she was feeding You know soup to Shirley MacLaine's character and just like getting her to eat and there was like I Just I recognize that feeling of not wanting to eat when you really should and as soon as the spoon was hitting her lips I was just like, oh this mom's cool I want that soups fucking bang and no that soup is so you you want to be in a you want to be in a thruple with yes couple next door yes I want to be the third and I think I just want to be the Dreyfus's son she's definitely mine I don't think anyone's mentioned my hunk yet. Sheldrake's secretary.

Okay, the glasses are doing a lot of work. Oh yeah, those glasses are cool. She looks like the girl in high school who I learned to swing dance to impress. A couple degrees away from Lisa Loeb. Oh yeah, yep, Loeb-esque. Loeb-esque. Well yeah, now that we talked about the hunks of the movie, we wanna talk about what we thought of the movie itself,

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We're here with the Flophouse talking about the apartment Okay, we're gonna rank this movie on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials Since I have seen this movie the most I think I think I'll take it home, but let's start with our guests Dan McCoy What did you think of the of the apartment and rank it on a scale of 1 to 10 super loud commercials? I'll give it 9 super loud commercials. I do think it's one of the most deserving of the Best Picture winners. If you're looking again for a comedy, particularly the older you get and the more emotions you are equipped to feel, you will find it more melancholy than funny, but it is a wise movie that, you know,

doesn't traffic in sort of easy good guys and bad guys at all times. And yeah, it's great. It's great. It's the department. Stu, what do you think? Yeah, yeah, this was this, as I said before, this is my first exposure. But yeah, I feel like this is an easy, easy nine, I was gonna say eight, but I feel like you're right, nine incredibly loud commercials, shockingly loud. So loud, I was not prepared for it. Yeah, no kidding. It's so fun, it moves so quickly,

it is like a perfect, like sad, funny movie to me, like that kind of a thing like it is a tragic comedy It's great Matt Lee, what you think? I'm giving this a 9 as well. I love this movie I'm it wasn't you know, it wasn't a laugh-a-minute but it was Really effective and you know, I thought everyone the the acting is incredible and also I'm a sucker for a movie

with a lot of Yiddish in it and this movie is filled with Yiddish. It's like, it was just amazing. They're talking about, at one point he's like, what, a nebbish like you? He's like, oh, that Mishigah said Cape Canaveral. I love it, I love it. I just love it.

Because he calls him some schnook that works in the office. For me, I was like, it's raising it one commercial every time I hear a Gittish word. So yeah, I'm giving it a nine. I love it because in this day and age, when Netflix keeps putting out television shows where Jewish characters are treated as if they are from another planet entirely.

And everybody is shocked to meet this person. Yeah. It's like- Chachachachew? Yeah, yeah. What the heck is Chanukah, anyway? Yeah. So you only survive on eating bagels?

I don't understand this. Also, I have never seen a movie ever. Like, everyone acts like- You live in L.A.? Yeah, they have no idea. Yeah, so. Also, I have never seen a movie ever. Like, everyone acts like that. You live in LA? Yeah, so, uh, yeah, I just, I love the way that it's incorporated and treated like, like everybody knows all this stuff. Yes, it's natural and it's not meant to be like, look, he's around all these Jews. I mean, maybe it feels that way for, you know, at the time for people. But I think it was just like just part of the New York culture and it wasn't necessarily like a Jew thing, which I really love. Emily, what do you think?

Going against the grain, I can feel it. I'm going to be generous and here comes the pan. I'm gonna give it a seven and that's okay No, no, give it what you give me Just watching this guy get taken advantage of forever and then watching a woman who's also getting taken advantage of by a douchebag like I Don't it's just, I don't know, it's such a bummer. And when they finally got together, I was like, yay? I don't know, I was just kinda like.

Two suicidal losers hanging out together. These two losers are gonna hang out in this apartment that everyone's gonna probably continue to try and buck in over and over again. They, they're gonna go, I don't care that you lost your job here or left. We're now gonna like, frame you for murder or something. Sure, I need your apartment. I can't come in any other apartment.

We're all turned on by the apartment and the lamps. Do you think those douchebags are just gonna give up because he quit his job? No, I feel like they're gonna still be showing up. They'll find another nebbish in the office. How many spare keys did he have made? Yeah, just like drunk horny guys are gonna be wandering into the apartment. He only had a few and the thing is,

is also like you can enter that apartment building without a key at all like right he only gets you into the apartment I'm like what what's stopping all these douchebags from making copies of the keys themselves like yeah I mean Like I don't know it's just it was just a bunch of miserable people and it made me sad Yeah, I don't I don't want to try I'm not trying to convince you at all I wouldn't try to convince you to change anything But I do like how that ending doesn't necessarily feel like definitively romantic.

It's like, well, I don't know. No, nothing. Maybe these guys are going to make it work. Maybe they aren't. Who knows? We don't know beyond today. The soup was romantic. The thing is like, also she was like, I wish I could fall in love with a guy like

you and now I feel like settling for a guy like this. And now I feel like she's just settling for a guy like him. She's gonna settle for this dude. She's not attracted to. I'm gonna settle for this guy that definitely doesn't fuck and play cards with him forever. Yeah, play cards and never talk about emotions. Like, let's see that hog, Jack Leman. Let's drop the hog out.

Let's see what you got. Stop calling out your Yu-Gi-Oh cards to play with me. This is like the whole... He doesn't have a hog anymore. It got cut off when the razor blade came out. When the razor came out! Didn't we all see that scene? Didn't we all see that famous scene?

Get a real gift from the Magi there. He was trying to save a life, but in turn he lost it. Oh yeah. And then Dr. Dreyfus came in like a moil and said, look, I am, and then walked away. Oh my god came in like a moil and said look I am and then Yeah, I don't want to watch it again Is that what poppers are for is not? I've actually never known. Oh, they wake you up. Dana's saying that the doctor was using poppers to wake somebody up.

And that was my experience exclusively when a guy's like, hey, do you want to do some poppers? And I'm like, I guess. I can't find any side effects, like negative side effects on the end my quick Google search. Is this something that happens to you a lot, Stuart? It happened to me, yeah. I always make up a story for this. Of course that that happens to you a lot Stuart? It happened to me. Yeah Story for this course that shit happens to Stuart of course it happens

Well, it could be smelling salts you guys It's true yeah, but it's just the way that he's cracking it under her dance googling Stuart and poppers, right? I like thinking that it's poppers. I like to think that the Dreyfus is party I like thinking that it's poppers. I like to think that the Dreyfus's party. No, no, no. I like that too. Sure. No, no, it's a, that's a depressant guys. They wouldn't use it.

That would like to send her off to the grave. It's a depressant that opens your butt. Yeah. That's so awesome. Well, yeah, here, I'll round it out. Nature's funny, you know? I'll round it out. I'm a nine on this movie too.

I really like it in like, from a vibes of view from just like great bars great like old cinema So much fun to look at I was I was just googling that that scene sorry to interrupt you Jordan, but I mentioned the Earlier I mentioned the office scene how it felt so deep and huge and it turns out they did use like trick photography Where they did use like children in where they did use children in suits, and then they had mannequins with puppets to give that illusion of depth. So it was Elijah Woods all the way down here. Yeah.

So yeah, I just kind of like the world of this movie and looking at it. But yeah, I think if you are presented this movie as a rom-com or a comedy, which I think you often are, people are like, this is one of the funniest movies, this is one of the most romantic movies, you will be fucking weirded out because it's not that.

But I think that, yeah, for me, when I get over what a weird bummer it is, I do just kind of like the characters and I like how they go on a little journey and it is not neatly wrapped up I like all that stuff about it but that is a lot of the stuff that makes it hard to watch but yeah it's the apartment it is free and you can watch it hey that's it we talked about it you want to do a little plug-in? Yeah, I do. The Flophouse, it is on maximumfun.org.

Y'all talk about movies, mostly bad ones, sometimes you love them. Yeah, are there any recent episodes of The Flophouse that y'all wanna point people to if they haven't heard it yet? Well, during this Max Fun Drive, we did our month of three movies that we dubbed as movies without Spider-Man, which of course were Craven the Hunter, Been in the Last Dance, and Heart

Beeps, which definitely doesn't have Spider-Man in it. Well, we haven't watched it yet. He might show up. There's still a chance. He could be in there. We don't know. Heart Beeps. But those have been good.

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know but those you know, those have been good. I don't know Yeah, I don't know. We do have like 17 years worth of Phone deep weariness, but yeah, there's some good ones in there. Check it out. Have you been doing it for 17 years? 17 plus years. Oh my god. Damn. I didn't even know they had podcasts back then Damn, I didn't even know they had podcasts back then. Crazy. Yeah, of course we all want you to go to MaximumFun.org slash join, but if you're in the Southern California area, this weekend, Emily and I are both going to be at WonderCon. Please come to see us at that.

I will be there Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Friday at 3 p.m. I'm going to be doing a panel on pitching graphic novels. And then at 5 p.m. I'm going to be leading a spotlight of a great comics creator that I really love, Derek Kirk Kim. We're going to be doing a reading from his new graphic novel with voice actors from The Walking Dead and X-Men 97.

It's going to be fun, fun, fun. At 12.30 on Saturday, I'm gonna be doing a panel called A Close Look at Graphic Novels, just gonna be people talking about graphic novels. And on Sunday at 1 p.m., I'm doing the awesomely named panel We Ride at Dawn. I don't know what we'll be talking about, but the name is cool.

Yeah, I get it. On both Saturday and Sunday, we will be signing books in the autograph area afterwards, so please come say hi at WonderCon. Emily, where can people find you at the WonderCon? So I'm going to be participating in Mythical's role for Mythicality. This is a series that we have on Mythical Society. It is the membership platform for Mythical Entertainment. And we play Dungeons and Dragons and we are doing it live at WonderCon on Saturday, March 29th.

It looks like 6 to 8 p.m. is when we're doing it. So please come visit me there. I might be walking around earlier because I'm hitching a ride with Michaela and Lucas. So you might see me earlier, but just walking around. Also on Friday, March 28th from six to eight Pacific, I'm hosting a little finale show for Maximum Fun to celebrate for the Max Fun Drive with Jeremy Bent. And so yeah, I think you should tune into the Max Fun YouTube channel on Friday, the 28th at 6 p.m. Pacific.

I'll be hosting. All right, that's it. Thank you to the Flophouse for being here and thank you for going to maximumfun.org slash join. Tune in next week when our movie will be Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, the movie from 1995. ["Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Theme"] Maximum fun. A worker-owned network. Play with us