Free With Ads - The First Wives Club, with Chelsea Davison

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

This week we are joined by writer, actress, and podcaster Chelsea Davison (Podstruck: A Rom-Com Rewind) to talk about The First Wives Club, a 90's boomer comedy about divorced women getting revenge on their ex-husbands.Tune in next week when our movie will be... The Running Man (1987) -----Check out Chelsea's amazing rom-com podcast Podstruck: A Rom-Com RewindVisit Emily's ETSY store FlemGems!On Dec 3rd, Jordan Morris wrote something in Venom 252. Get your copy now!Get a copy of Jordan Morris's comic book Predator: Black White and Blood #4!On Nov 8th, Jordan will be at the Burbank Book Festival, at the Buena Vista Branch Library from 10am-11am.And later that same day, Nov 8th, Jordan will be at Revenge Of Comics and Pinball for their Comic Creator Parking Lot Party.

This is free with ads. podcast that asked the question, why pay Netflix eight bucks a month to watch the Hunting Wives when you can go online for free and see wife-based entertainment that has dazzling comedic performances and a robust color palette with every hue of the rainbow, from beige to eggshell, to chiffon, to off-white, to porcelain to alabaster. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is the First Wives Club, the 1996 hit comedy starring Bet Midler, Goldie Hawn, and Diane Keaton, three slices of toast, turkey, bacon, lettuce, and tomato.

With us, as always, is the super producer, The Heave Freak, Matt Lieb, hitting us with those drops that can have it all. I do have feelings. I'm an actress. I have all of them. Gorgeous. So good. Today with us is a very special guest, an actor, a comedy writer,

one of the hosts of the rom-com recap podcast. Podstruck, Chelsea Davidson. Hi, Chelsea. Yeah. Hello. Oh, what an honor to be here, you guys. I love you both so much. Also, Matt, I love you too. I just met you, but wow.

And this is crazy, but here's my number and call you maybe. Chelsea, you're our first wife. We consider you all. Oh, my God. Thank you. I'm also my husband's first wife. So, you know, hopefully last, but we'll see. We're going to talk about the first Wives Club, which is, as of this recording, streaming free with ads.

But first, we're going to get to know our amazing guest in a second called Talk to Guest. Talk to Guest. So, Chelsea, in addition to all the other things that you do, you host Podstruck, you co-host Podstruck, the Romcom Recap podcast. We had a horror YouTuber on last week, and I asked him a similar question. Okay. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of... overlap between me and a horror fan. Yes. How do you feel about Gialo, the Italian splatter films of the 70s?

So, uh, was Dawn of the Dead a metaphor for Carter-era malaise? Talk about that. Anyway, uh, so when, if people ask you to recommend a rom-com, like, you know, when Harry met Sally and, you know, you've got mail and the sleeper in Seattle, these are the big ones. What are the deep cuts? For the sick-ups, if you want a rom-com you've never seen, what would you, what do you recommend? Well, you know, I think that a lot of people know the classics. They know Moonstruck. They know, you know, the ones like that, they know all the Meg Ryan ones. So I would say there are actually some good rom-coms in recent years that people like to give a lot of guff saying,

oh, no one's making good rom-coms anymore. And to that I say, you're wrong. I say they're making just a lot of slop, you know, every Christmas season for streaming. But if you wade through that and you don't, you know, you ignore that stuff. There are actually some really great ones on streaming. For example, I want you back on Amazon Prime. That one I really loved with Jenny Slate, set it up. That's Glenn Powell before he became Mr. Hollywood.

Hell, yeah, loved one. Yeah, him and Zoe Deutsch. He was but a running boy, soon to become a running man. A running man. Yes. And, you know, you watch it and you're like, hmm, this guy's got something. So, you know, it's fun. There's a little spark. You're like, this guy's got something.

He should be in every movie. Every movie forever and only him. This guy's got something. I want to fuck him. Well, that's kind of it. Yeah. You've got something. A dick, probably.

Something about him. And it's like, yeah. It's abs. That's the thing. That's the thing about him. Something about this guy, somewhere in the midsection. It's a kind of an abbey quality. I don't know.

I'm just drawn right there. There's just something about this guy that's making my mouth water. Yeah. We are recording this right as them holidays are about to start. Do you fuck with a Hallmark movie or the like kind of more modern Netflix equivalent? Yes. In fact, I've gone pretty hard into the Netflix rom-com holiday verse with a Christmas prince and then the princess switch.

Yeah, then they, it's a really fun thing because they are both in the same universe because one of them attends the other wedding, yes, but I'm sorry to repeat it, but it's just mind-blowing, but then in other of them, they are watching Netflix and scrolling and see their friends, These people that are real people from real countries in the movies. Yeah, what is real? Is this black mirror? It's crazy.

I love it. They're like, we'll have our cake and eat it too. Who cares? It's both. I watch all of those as well with girlfriends, you know, Jenna and Laura, we do drinking games and we are never more fucked up than watching those. And one of the take of drinks is when they mention the universe, when they mention other properties. within it and girl yeah you're wasted you're wasted all over the place you are because it doesn't

make sense one of my okay my worst holiday maybe ever like a you know holiday holiday uh one year i was in thanksgiving alone in new york city and i was about to move to la and so all my stuff was packed i didn't have anybody there with me it was like the night before my flight and i was like wait i have a tab of acid in my freezer, I'm going to take it alone in my apartment on Thanksgiving. And you know what? This is going to be so fun. I've done acid alone before. This time, I'm just going to have a holiday and watch the princess switch. And that was the first time. And I must tell you, it was horrible. It was like a cage, a mental cage I could not escape from. So I will say that you want to be maybe a little drunk, but you don't want to get too fucked up

watching these movies. Because you start to be like... Don't do heroin. I was like, what are humans? Like, what is emotion? What's switching? Is it our brains within our bodies? And what is the brain anyway? Also, it was Vanessa Hudgens

being one of the most wealthy actresses or an actress at all is very interesting. Maggie Moo! Like, Every time she did these accents, I was like, I want to take the skin off my face. Yeah. Now imagine you're high out of your mind.

Yeah. And it's melting. Your face is melting. I wouldn't recommend that. Well, can I say, like, I consider myself to be like, you know, kind of a bad girl a little bit? Yeah. And I consider you to be like this put together responsible. You're a mother and a wife.

I have never done acid or anything like that. by myself. That is insane behavior. No. I can't believe it. No, because it's not. It's very like preppy intellectual who's like time to explore my own mind and write some poetry. It's awful. I don't know. I do feel like you have a buttoned up persona, but you've lived. I've lived. You've lived. You have. I'm very impressed. I don't think I could survive that. Honestly. Here's the thing, but I can't watch a horror movie. You're mentioning what was it, Dawn of the Dead, the Evil Dead? of the deads. I've never seen any of them. I can't. The dead? Please no. You don't even listen to

the Grateful Dead. That's how scared you are. The songs are so long. What are the big debates in the world of rom-coms? Is there like a controversial movie? Is there like a hot take? I have to call out when you came on Podstruck. It was for the about time episode, which is Richard Curtis. And on that, you raised one of the great debates, which is, is the Richard Curtis movie, Love Actually, a great movie, a great rom-com that is worthy of being watched every year? Or is it on par with the room? That's what you said. And yeah, you voted on par with the room. My co-host voted on par with the room, which I was honestly betrayed by. I really thought we had changed her mind. You're like, let's gang up on this rom-com casual who's coming in and

insulting one of our sacred acts. That's what I thought, but it turns out, no, she had not changed her mind. And I was the one fool. When we had done that episode, we had Stephanie Beatriz on from Brooklyn 9-9, and she was also a big fan of it. And so I guess I had lulled myself into safety in numbers, thinking that, yeah, we made some really good points. Love actually is a really good movie. And then suddenly the tables were turned, and you guys were calling out, you know, the 9-11 of it all, and sexual harassment. It cannot be said enough. Are you kidding?

I have not seen that movie in a long time. No. No. There's a lot going on. The very obvious Monica Lewinsky parallels they're doing. There's a lot of things that you just go, yeah, maybe it wouldn't be your first thought for a romantic comedy about Christmas. But you know what? I'm here for it.

I love it. I do watch it every year. Personally, I thought there should have been more 9-11. Wow. Yeah. Not enough movies have the balls to earn. open with that. Have you watched the holiday for your podcast yet? Yes, we have. And Dang it. I'm so sorry. That one actually has elements that could be a horror movie because

she's in the middle of nowhere, Camer Diaz, when she switches houses. She's in the middle of nowhere in the winter. It's snowy. A man is knocking at her door being like, oh, my, my sister usually lives here. Let me in. Yeah. I'm wasted. And she just says, okay, come sleep here. Strange man. She doesn't know this lady has a sister. Like there's a different version of the holiday that is a movie I would never watch. You just put a burlap sack on that guy's head. And you got a stranger's movie.

Yeah. Yeah, I watched it recently and I feel very differently about it recently than I did in the past. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's got some weird stuff. And also, yeah, one of the rom-coms in it is very well-served, you know, the Cameron Diaz side. And then they're like, and also stupid, uh, Kate Winslets in it and Jack Black and they, they get nothing. I like that side better. I do too.

They just don't give it anything. There's like no chemistry. The whole plot is her helping an old man. It's like, what the hell? But I like that part about it. But I think they have more chemistry than the G-Lab, uh, Cameron Diaz, because I just don't think Jack Black or the old man. Um, no, I think that her and Jack Black, I think you have a lot of chemistry personally.

But yeah, I just think Cameron, Diaz is like a little stiff like I don't know but we'll get into that another day I guess sure sure yeah no but you're right that the moment where Jack Black grabs an eyelash off of Kate Winslet it that's hot that is a hot as I've gotten older and I think a lot of other girly pops and everybody in between I think we see how hot he is now like yeah did we not back then no no all right well you know what I I think I always did. You were early.

You were early to the Jack Black is hot. Yeah. Say it early. Say it often. High fidelity is when he became hot. As soon as he's saying, let's get it on, you realize he could sing.

That's what did it for me. Oh, yeah. Let's not forget. I know what you did last summer. Sure, sure. He's great in that as well. Wait, he's in that?

He is, yeah. He has like the, he has like white guy dreadlocks and he tries to sell everybody weed at this resort. He's great in it. Wow. Again, I will never see. see it because that's a that's a that's a spooky one it is pretty spooky there's a lot of people getting

killed with a fish hook yeah I just don't want to see a movie where a person kills another person and that's my requirement for video games too what about a ghost that kills a person that's fine hereditary fine things like that it can be the devil it can be ghost very fine huh it can be scariest movie of all time is that though because it's kind of just like the real horror is Trauma. Yeah, Tony Colette is sawing her own head off, not someone else's. That's true. The scariest movie I've ever seen is one year for Halloween.

My husband convinced me to watch Scream. And I still think about it all the time, that one scream movie. Can you imagine that men can just kill you? They can just decide they want to kill you, and then they can do it. And there can be a guy, and then his friend can dress up in the same costume, and he can kill other people or you. Wow, just giving away the Twitter. Yeah. Sorry. Spoilers for Screamer alert. Scream 1. I knew nothing about it going in. Wait until you hear about true crime. Chelsea. No, truly, the beginning, it was like, oh, Drew Barrymore's in this. I didn't know that. And then when she gets killed, I was like, what?

Also, you can pop popcorn on a stove? Cool. Oh, I do. She's got the jiffy pop that's like the little thing that you put in. It's got, anyway. You don't need jiffy pop. You can just use a pot, a regular pot. You just have to shake it all. talk. Anyway, that's a hot tip. We're talking about Scream, a movie, I believe, from 1996. Oh, the same as the First Wives Club. In 1994. Anyway. No. First Wife Club is 96.

Just trying to switch. Oh, good. It was good. I liked it. Thank you. I think, I know the First Wives Club is 96. I think Scream is 96, but I could be wrong. It might be 94. Anyway, I'm a good host and I'm doing a good job. You are. We are here. Chelsea is here. We're going to talk about the furs

Wives Club. We are very excited. But before we do, we want to let you know that this movie features suicide and mentions sexual assault. So if that's not something you want to hear us talk about, we're going to play some music and give you a chance to find another episode. We're back. It's free with ads. We're here with Chelsea Davidson from Podstruck. We're going to talk about the first wives' Club. Okay, before we talk about the plot, let's go around the horn, see who's seen this, see what our general feelings are going into the movie. I have a memory involving this movie that I will share before we start. But let's start with you. Chelsea, you're our guest. I believe when I texted you about us watching this movie, your reaction was, I've been meaning to watch that again. So you're a fan. Well, yes. I remember I saw it a few years ago. I'm trying to think how many years ago

not when it came out but I remember liking it and thinking oh it was fun, it was cute it was kind of silly and I feel like in recent years I have seen so many women talk about how meaningful this movie is to them

and so I have been like did I miss something I should rewatch it and then with the passing of Diane Keaton And obviously the GIFs were shared plenty. A very jiffable movie. Correct. There were a lot of things and quotes and all of these things and people wanting to rewatch it.

And I was one of them who said, you know what, this is the right time to go back, rewatch it, figure out what did I miss? And so, yeah, I'm excited to talk about it today. Oh, boy, not convinced. Oh, boy. Emily. Emily, you've seen this one? This is the first time for you? No, I've seen it a lot of times.

And I actually, most recently, watched it in Chelsea's house while she wasn't there. Wait, so you didn't watch it again? No, I just watched it like a couple weeks ago or like a week or like a week or a half ago. Yeah. When, you know, Dying Keaton had passed. Oh, okay. Now I have to confess something. I had my friend.

We should mention you were your pet sitting for Chelsea. Yeah, you didn't break in my house. Yeah. I broke into Chelsea's house. This is why the dream is so scary. You should see Chelsea's TV. No, no. So I had a friend over,

Michaela, a friend of the podcast. I had her come over because we were both very sad. And we ate pizza and watched First Wives Club and Father of the Bride. Oh. And so, sorry, I had someone at your house. But she didn't sleep over. She left immediately after.

Thank God. Chelsea, look at your liquor bottles. Some of them have water added to them. They look like they were at the same levels. Okay, so I will say I had a little bit of your husband's rum that was like, it's fun. And here's the thing, your liquor, like, your little bar back there, caked in dust. Y'all don't even touch those things. So I was like, oh, I don't think he's going to miss some of this rum.

Too busy doing it, no, not at all. Well, and, you know, I have two kids, so it's like, you're pregnant, then you're breastfeeding, then you're pregnant again, then you're breastfeeding. It's like, when can I drink? That's true. But yeah, some of your Cap and Morgan, I maybe dipped into there. Oh, that's fine. All right, cool. Thanks.

Matt, seen the movie? Thoughts about the movie? Seen it? Seen it? Saw it in theaters with the fam. Loved it then. In theaters? Like a re-release or in 96?

In 96, baby. We used to, you see, when I was very, very young, my dad took out the TVs because we were getting bad grades. And so to make up for the fact that we didn't. have TV he would take us to movies a lot and so he took us to the first wives club and I was like why why why and then I watched it and I was like I love this movie so whenever it was on TV I would watch it then I think we rented it just one of those Matt Lieb weird favorites and I confirm scream is in fact from 1996 so my way from earlier was so how crazy that these came out the same

year. Good. Well, yeah, let's talk about what actually happens in the first Wives Club. We start out with a flashback to a college graduation, 1969. A very nice year. I'm good. And anyway, so this is the first wives club. They all went to college together. They're all drinking champagne talking about graduation. And they say that they're going to be there for each other forever. And then we flash forward to one of the wives who won't be in the movie that long. She's drinking a lot. She's wearing a fur coat. She's got a fabulous fur coat. She's got a fabulous fur coats

in this movie. Many furs. Many lovely furs. And so she's drinking. We see these papers strewn around like tabloids talking about a real estate mogul who has a new wife and we are led to believe that this woman was the first wife of this rich man who was off with a younger woman, she gives her jewels to her housekeeper and steps to the edge of her

balcony. What happens? We'll learn later, but it's the thing you're afraid of. Anyway, so we go right to the first of the first wives. Diane Keaton, a legend, looking great, looking fabulous. House is looking. fantastic yeah i have not seen too many like late diane keaton movies but the like houses and the like kitchen stuff those were always like important parts of those movies right you got to watch

some nancy meyers yes i mean father of the bride is a classic but you should also see something's got to give which is not free with ads anywhere which was killing me and i really wanted to watch it and i almost used your husband's credit card to order it and then i went and then i went maybe that's crossing a line and so that I didn't do it but I will tell you the credit card of the people your house sitting for yeah I'm sorry but I will say this your Netflix algorithm is booked because I watched hunting wives that's okay but it does keep recommending us kunk on earth like more than anything else I watched that a lot yeah I did I like kunk on earth you should watch kunk on earth it's great you should watch it we gave it a quick shot maybe we'll come back to it not

Cunkheads, huh? I'll say this, too. When I left to, like, go to work, I would leave it on for Renley. And Renley seemed to like it. That must be why. Because it's recommending it as if we, that's our favorite show we've ever seen. Like, it's in every category. It should be.

It should be. Here's your cunk. I have your cunk for you. Also, I watched like three seasons of absolutely fabulous. So that should be on there, too. That has not been recommended. They decided we're done. with it.

Okay. So we learned from Diane Keaton's daughter that she's been sneaking out at night to see who her husband. They're separated, but they're like hooking up on the side. The daughter doesn't like it.

Very casually comes out as a lesbian, says that he's going to tell, she's going to tell her dad later. That'll come up a couple more times. And then we meet the second first wife. This is Goldie Hawn, and she is shouting very, sexually do it to me Morris, which I'm like, okay, I'm in the movie.

It's like, yes, it's what it would sound like if I was eating Goldie Hawn's pussy. Always, because she would call me by my last name. She would call me by my. Yeah, she doesn't want to get too personal. No, no, no, no. It's Goldie Hawn. She doesn't, you know, she's just there for a hang, for a casual hang. Yeah, sure.

And that's fine, you know, I don't want to let her, I don't want to tie her down, you know. She doesn't want to confuse you with all the other Jordans she's fucking at that. Right, yeah. Michael. Right. Sure.

There's others. There's tons of Jordans out there. She saves that kind of intimacy for Kurt Russell. That's right. That's right. You're just Morris. I would like to talk about

just how beautiful, like all three women are beautiful in this, but Goldie Hawn is like, God damn, she's so pretty. Anyway, go ahead with what you're saying. So Rob Ryan, is here. We should mention that every, like, little character is an actor you love. Very cool, all the people that pop up in this movie. Even some, like, pre-fame people who would kind of let go on

to become famous. That's kind of cool. But, yeah, Rob Reiner is her, like, plastic surgeon. A lot of plastic surgery jokes in this about Goldie Hawn. She has, like, kind of big crazy, like, lips for a while. So, yeah, she is an actor. She's getting older, and she's having a ton of plastic surgery to compensate for her getting older. And then we meet the third of the first one. wives. Bet Midler, she's kind of like the house, like the housewife, I think, supposed to be kind of the, you know, stay-at-home mom. She's got a, she's got a son who's preparing for his, for his bar mitzvah. And, oh, God, there's a band he wanted for the bar mitzvah. It kind of had a funny name of like, what if an old screenwriter had to come up with like a metal band name?

The Cleveland Steamers or some shit. It's something like that. Yes, it's something like Cleveland Steamers. Yikes. The sex act where you shit on someone. one yes that's in the first wives club or the glass bottom boat something something like that yeah at some sort of shit sex act anyway so we've met we've met the wives and they all

get the bad news at the same time that this the fourth friend of theirs committed suicide and they all have to go to the funeral you just keep calling her the fourth wife and like oh we meet the first of that it's stocker Channing like it's weird that you're not mentioning

this very famous actress. Yes, one scene, she's electric. She is. She's a smoke show. All these women are total smoke shows. It's fun to see a movie where it's like, I always thought they were beautiful even when I was like really young. And there's something really, I don't know, affirming about the women at this age in Hollywood,

making a hugely successful film all carrying it together. and just looking fucking fabulous. And I've already, like, Googled a brown leather blazer a lot because of Diane Keaton's brown leather blazer she wears in this. And I have found one, but it is expensive. So let me know if you want to donate to my go-fund me for my brown leather blazer. The brown leather blazer, the most colorful thing in this movie. This is beige, beige.

beige movie but it's beautiful though it's an aesthetic that you know carrying on to other movies from what I understand but yes just a beigey beige just like an IKEA meatball this movie so

the wives reconnect at the funeral they all go to lunch together in a very cool looking restaurant I like all the bars and restaurants in this movie dude that restaurant we paused on it to look at it just like, God, nothing looks this like rich and like, I don't know, fabulous anymore.

And I'm like, I feel like all restaurants now are just buildings that they painted, you know, millennial gray because they know the building is going to, like the business is going to fail soon. So the point is to resell the, like the building over and over. So nothing looks like it's got character or like hot. put into it, and I was like, oh, I always thought when I got older, I'd be in these restaurants all the time.

Sure. Yeah, you want that, like, kitsch. Not everything needs to be like minimalist, industrial. Yeah, this is maximalist, this place. And I think it's in New York. Neon sign that says work, bitch. Yeah, exactly. Some succulents and mason jars, and that's their decor.

But it's also, like, all of these people are in their 40s and 50s with money. drinking midday, like, and not just a mimosa, like straight up vodka with one piece of ice at 11 a.m. I fucking love it. That's what I thought my life would be. And now everyone thinks I have a problem. I did love the progression of their drink orders, getting the Virgin Mary, Bloody Mary vodka rocks. I feel like they have a lot of. It says it all, doesn't it? It really does. They get shit face at this place. It's wonderful. Yeah. So, you know, we get a lot of like very 1996 humor here.

Goldie Hawn's talking about how she, you know, she doesn't want to act young. She's like, I'm not going to go rollerblading, you know, the thing that indicated that you were young in 1996. You went rollerblading. Oh, sure. Or that you were pretending to do something for a boy to like you, which that's why I rollerbladed. Oh, okay. And I sucked at it. Did it work?

No. No, it didn't. I took lessons and everything. You took lessons? Where do you get rollerblade lessons? My parents got it for me. Like a private tutor? No.

Who? Who teaches it? There were classes. No, well, probably. But it was a, there's this like bike and skate shop in like around where my parents' house was. Because all kids were like skating then in the 90s. And I had wrist guards. knee pads and elbow pads and a helmet.

Ready for the X games. Yeah. And they just taught me how to line up against the sidewalk and hop up onto the sidewalk. That was all the fundamentals. That's pretty much all I learned. You got to walk before you can blade, you know. Yeah. I would just stop myself by falling because I had the wrist guards.

Yeah. And I just, I hate it. I hate roller skating. I hate bike riding. I hate all of it. Well, I can't believe that didn't get the guy hopping up onto the curb and then falling under your wrists on purpose. You and Goldie Hawn's character have a lot in common.

You both hate rollerblades. Except for I can't pull off. That haircut is the haircut I have brought in to my hairdresser over and over. And I got the bangs like her. I tried. It did not. Her bangs are immaculate in this. But I think it's because she's fine with them being in her eyes.

Yeah. Like those things are poking the little. literal corneas, and she doesn't care. Okay, I have to say this. And look, I love Colty Hahn, so I don't mean this in a mean way. But she looks just like the dog from Lady and the Tramp. You know what? Who is the sexy, sultry dog at the pound?

Yeah, that's a, I mean, if you're going to compare someone to a dog, you might as well compare them to the sexiest dog of all time. I mean, not Spudge McKinsey, but close. The way, the way I have thought that too, but you're so dead on. But it looks great. I love it on her. The hair, like, in her eyes. And then you get the peak of the, like, blue eye shadow.

I'm like, that's that dog. Sorry. No offense, but you look like a hot dog. You're the hottest dog. I mean, you know what I mean? You don't look like that. Tramp. Yeah.

You look like that priss lady. I mean, all those dogs want to bang that dog. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So we kind of learn what's happening to the other, to the other wives of the Wives of the Wives Club. Diane Keaton is going to see a therapist that's treated as a very like kooky thing

that she's doing like Marcia Gay Hardin. Marcia Gay Hardin. Who is introduced like leg first? They do the slowest hornyest pan of her. Boy, you really get a look up Marcia Gay Hardin's dress. Oh, baby. That's how they introduced Julia Robertson pretty woman to be like, look at this piece of me.

She's a, she's a sex worker and you're going to like her. They do that with the therapist. So it's very much telegraphing. There's going to be more. The twist is that the husband is cheating with the therapist. And I'm like, well, the movie thinks that's a good idea. The movie's on board. Part of me thinks she wanted to be the third because she keeps asking Diane Keaton to like be mean to her.

Like she's like, hit me, hit me. Right. Yeah. She has a very wild therapy session. She like hits her with this kind of foam like Nerf bat. Yeah, and then she's going to be like, spit in my mouth and then like, you know, a typical therapy session. Yeah. You know, you do once a week to maintain.

Anyway, so yeah, we go, we go back to the husband's house. Jordan, wouldn't that be great if we could go, speaking of, better help. Better help. We got to get a sponsor, guys. We got to get a sponsor. We got to get a sponsor. Not that one, but, you know, another one. So they go to Diane Keaton's house, and that's where we kind of learn that the therapist is,

been like hooking up with the husband. And obviously, Diane Keaton is mad. And Marcia K. Harton has this great line delivery. She's like, this is rough. I know that. I like that she acknowledges. It's like, yeah, this is fucked up. You've learned that your husband is fucking your therapist.

It's a great character game to keep doing therapy. It is. I know. This is like, I think the best, like, the most like comedically sound scene in the movie because it has this funny premise of like they're fighting and the therapist is trying to therapy them. Yeah, I like this scene. Oh, well, we got to get the founding premise of the movie from the drinking that they had.

All of them have been put upon by their husbands. Like, all of them have been wronged. So they already are in a club whether or not they've founded the, you know, name of it or not. But also, her husband fucks her before breaking up with her and Marcia Gaye Hardin coming in. Like, fuck off. But she doesn't tell Marcia Gay Harden because she's like, oh, you're. You're here? And then he immediately says, oh, I just was telling her that I want a divorce.

Why doesn't Diane Keaton just say like, uh, that's not what happened? Like, you were just balls deep in me. Right. You know, I feel like Marcia Gay Hardin would not approve of that. She would have killed that line too. She would have absolutely. She would have. And it sounds like her voice.

It does. Her screaming and getting mad in any movie is she's so good at. screaming i love her so much um so uh so goldie hans plot is that she is kind of like you know hollywood hollywood is is forcing her into mom role she has a little uh like dinner with a screenwriter played by timothy all the font this is very fun to see him so young and hot so hot whew baby yeah yeah and uh yeah got an earring that's how you know he's a cool guy but yeah he wants her to play the mom in a movie so like everybody's life's falling apart they all they all they all meet. They get these letters from

their dead friend telling them, you know, what they mean to her and that kind of brings them together and they all decide to drop their wedding rings into a glass of champagne and cheers to their new club, the First Wives Club. There's some voiceover.

Like Goldie Hawn does voiceover throughout this movie and she says like something along the lines of getting together was easy. Finding out what to do next, that was hard. And I'm like, this is the screenwriter expressing frustration with this movie. Like, yeah,

it's the first wives, and then they, something else, I don't know. They're going to get revenge. They give them a club, but they... Murder? Sure.

Too much, too much. Yeah. It does seem very inspired by nine to five to me. Of, you know, these women getting together, the three of them, they've been wronged,

they want to get payback. But then it, it does feel like the screenwriter was like, reel it in can't actually do nine to five so it doesn't really go that far they want to get revenge but in all these different ways of kind of ruining

the business I gotta be honest the Goldie Han walking in and taking all of her husband's shit was pretty fun. Yeah like that that that just like you know bulldozing the door open fuck the secretary I'm going to take all your shit including your desk everything I'm out.

Yeah that was and then she took his Lamborghini and then auctioned everything off. I fucking loved it. Because she didn't, she was like, fuck your red tape. I walk in the door, I take it all. And I brought hunks with me to take it all with me. It was amazing. Also, her sunglasses.

I've been trying to find these sunglasses. It seems like you're just fixated on Goldie Hawn. I love her. Yeah, you're like, give me the bangs, give me the sunglasses, give me Diane Keaton's coat. This is just your Pinterest board. Yes, pretty much. This whole thing.

So they each, so they each, like, try and take down their husbands and, like, the husband's new girlfriends in different ways. So, yeah, as you mentioned, Goldie Hawn, like, all the, because she was the, like, actor and the husband was the producer. So, like, all the stuff is, like, legally hers. So, yeah, she kind of, like, swoops in with the repo, like, team takes all the stuff. Our husband is dating Elizabeth Berkeley. Elizabeth Berkeley, you know, fresh off showgirls, Elizabeth Berkeley. Oh, wait. When was Showgirls?

Is that 95? Girls was 95, maybe. Really? Yeah. So, yeah, maybe she, like, had, maybe showgirls had not, like, come out when they had started filming this. Yeah, I would like to talk about the crime

that is Elizabeth Berkeley's hair in this movie. I thought it was wonderful. Yeah, she looks great. I think it's such a brave for the character. Yeah, you didn't like it? It's so different from Goldie Hawn, which I think is important.

It looks like it's never, it's never known a brush. It's never seen a brush. She's wild and free. I like that. It's supposed to look different. Well, it just looks like, I don't know. It looks like bedhead. It looks tangled.

It looks a mess. It reminded me of ramen noodles. Yeah, I want to eat her hair. Cracking egg on there. Let's do some weddings. I want some bamboo shoots in that. It also just looked thin and like crunchy. But like show girls, that hair is beautiful.

Like it's the curls are defined. was like, who hated her on set, like, and did this to her hair? I was so mad. I'm so mad for her in love. I think she's, like, I think she's really funny in this. I think she, like, Colterone with, you know, the, like, these comedy legends who are in this movie. And, yeah, I think we can all agree.

Maybe Elizabeth Berkeley kind of got a bad rap from the industry. She sure fucking did. And she's great. And, yeah. And her performance was excellent, and she is stunningly beautiful. But, and the hair doesn't change any of that. But I could not stop, like, looking at it. I hated it so much.

I love the hair. The other, like, you know, young girlfriend is Sarah Jessica Parker, kind of like a little flip on her L.A. story role here. Now that hair. The Sarah Jessica Parker in L.A. story is a very, like, prominent, oh, I'm noticing a girl moment for me as a kid. Oh. I haven't seen that one.

But I like that there's some IMDB overlap because Sarah Jessica Parker and Bet Midler starred together in Hocus Pocus. That's right. And then Sarah Jessica Parker and Diane Keaton starred together in the Family Stone, which I just watched we're going to be doing it on Podstruck in December.

And so it was fun to see, you know, I'm like, oh, wow, what a little Venn diagram. Aw. So, yeah, so everybody's doing their scheme. I think Diane Keaton is just kind of like taking over, doing it's doing a, hostile takeover of the husband's company. I never really understood what Diane Keaton did.

Her husband was a lawyer. No, he's ad agents. Yeah, an advertising. He was like Donald Draper, but not as hot. Yeah, and his partners are selling their shares. She's going to take it over, and then she'll be his boss. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

And her daughter is kind of like spying. Her daughter, they do a thing where they go to like a gay bar to see her daughter and tell her about the scheme. and I'm kind of white knuckling it when they go in the gay bar and you know what for 1996 it's pretty good

it's a huge scene it is like not they're being supportive we get a Leah DeLaria a cameo and you know I got to say She was in Orange is the New Black She's in a lot of things

I got to say this movie they say the word lesbian a lot And it's funny you just don't hear lesbian as much as you used to you know what I mean guys am I old everyone was lesbian now it's like you don't say lesbian anymore no you say queer

yeah everyone everyone is queer also it seems like they don't quite know though I just say friend oh my god later when she tells the dad she says oh and daddy I'm a lesbian a big one I'm like what does that mean like I'm eating pussy

for every meal. I've never had a long fingernail. I think there are moments of this movie where you're like, ah, straight white dudes made this movie. Straight white dudes wrote and directed this movie. A big one. Ninety-six. A big straight white guy.

I'm a lesbian for real. A big straight white guy who directed a bunch of Burt Reynolds movies. True. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I also went on to direct, I think, like, the Dudley Do Right movie with Brendan Fray. Cool.

Anyway. Yeah, fun career on this guy. Anyway. Well, wait, so going back, though, to the daughter. Yeah. It is so fucked up of Diane Keaton to bring her daughter in on the plan against the dad. And I, clearly the daughter has some resentment, but as she wanted to be in on it, she's very passionate about it. Yeah, but Diane Keaton should not indulge this.

I mean, look, my parents have fought my entire lives. I was a love child. They were never married. And they have a very fraught relationship. And, yeah, like, they still, I just went home when Emily was a house sitting. I went home to Cleveland. And even then, my mom was like, tell me all the dirt. Like, what was it?

Like, you know, when I saw my dad and I had to be like, well, yeah. Like, he made his girlfriend cry at my sister's house in front of everyone. and my mom's like, oh, that's classic Larry. He's abusive. He's, ah. And like, you know what I mean? I'm like, this isn't healthy for anyone. True.

So, you know what I mean? So anyway, for the hero, I'm like, that's a little bit of a villain move, Diane Keating. Yeah, yeah. But she is someone that's a pushover. Yeah. That's like kind of the arc for her as her being a little bit of a pushover. Yeah. But I also want to mention her mother in this.

movie. The elderly lady with the best red lip I've ever seen in my life. I love her. She's amazing. I don't know she's like an iconic, like legendary actress or something, but I really liked their dynamic, the

three of them. So I don't know. I think that the daughter was like, fuck men. It's like the vibe. That they were trying, which again, written by men. Yep. Sure. How do I write a lesbian? Well, they hate men.

That's the only reason they're not attracted to us It's because they're filled with bigoted hate Exactly Anyway, so there's this thing where they're kind of trying to sneak around And find like incriminating documents And then they almost get caught And they get on this like window washer platform That's kind of like a big physical set piece

And as they're kind of like falling down the building Like everyone just recognizes Goldie Hawn That's a little running joke Because she's favorite She has an Oscar in the movie they are falling down the building and as they like stop in front of people's windows they're all, you look great

and it's kind of fun. But why would the window washing have a tower of terror button? Why would it just like instant death button? Right, it shouldn't have a free fall switch, but this one does. Yeah. Yeah, I bet window watchers were watching this movie

going like, that would never happen. That would never happen. Somebody didn't do their research. Some straight white man right in this movie. Not straight enough. He doesn't know about window washing. The straightest activity there is. Also, that whole scene where they're, you know, sneaking in that leads them to the window washer,

we get a lot of good work from Bronson Pinchot, who I want to call out because like you said, there's a lot of great side characters. And I specifically want to shout him out because I think of him in his best work as being in risky business. and Emily, when she came on our Podstruck podcast, we covered risky business and Emily talked a lot about loving Bronson and just being real into him in that movie. So what did you think about Bronson here? I mean, he's hot as hell, but this character,

something about this character made it seem like he wasn't for me. Like he wouldn't have found me. I wouldn't have had a shot. Yeah, he's gay. A big one. A big one. We had a lot of these types of characters in movies in the 90s. I think there's like Martin Short is kind of this in Father of the Bride.

It's a kind of a kind of foreign kind of gay guy. Yes, absolutely. Who is from somewhere? Yeah, there's a lot of things like, is it the accent or is he gay? Also, I would have point this out. I have not done a lot of acting work, but I did an episode of an ill-fated sitcom. that um it was canceled after my episode there were three episodes that came out okay well you're there that's pretty good Manhattan love story was the name of it my episode was called gay or

British okay yes I get checks in the mail for it says gay or British on it I don't hate that insight I think that's kind of funny so yeah it's like a British guy that everybody's like I want to like they want to hook up with them but then they're like is he is he not yeah yeah You wear an ascot. You don't know. Yeah. You know? So I think that theme was, you know, it's been around for a while and maybe I hope that we've retired it.

Yeah. Though I was confused because wouldn't Morty recognize his wife's gay best friend? Like he went to the funeral with her. Like he spent so much time with the wife. And also you have an actress in the group, Goldie Hawn. Why wouldn't they just be like, Goldie Hawn, call up one of your actor friends to play this part? And, yeah, we're doing covert sneak around stuff. Maybe let's leave behind the most famous person in the world.

Yeah, there's just a lot of... It was a fun set piece, but I did have some small logic bumps. That is a plot hole for sure. Look, no one cares about the logic in a movie like this, but I'm just flagging it. Yeah, yeah. You know, the inevitable reboot. We're doing a podcast about it. You've got to talk about something.

Oh, wait, we can't just say things that happen in the movie, you know? Maggie Smith is in this. Maggie Smith. Also with a crazy accent, is she British or Southern? No idea, but I could listen to her say anything in any weird action she decides to do. And the name Gunilla? Fine. I was fine with it.

For the second, they're like, that's my friend, Gunilla. I was like, yes. I love it. So the thing with Bet Midler's husband, they're like threatening him with the mob. So, Beth Midler, I guess, is mobbed up in this. Yeah. This is all very confusing to me. This is when we're coming to Matt, the man with the Sopranos podcast.

How did you feel about the portrayal of the mafia in this film? Well, first of all, that is exactly how the mafia be. You know, they be named Carmine. They be like, want me to kill this guy? They love to say that out loud. They love to kill guys. Uh-huh. But I was very confused as to whose uncle this was.

Was this? Her father's brother Okay, so she's half Italian Half Jewish I know they can be both Matt Listen Is there not a Jewish mafia? Well that's the thing

But he was clearly Sicilian mafia His name was Carmine So I assumed that that's what was going on But I don't fully know And I don't understand But well I would think that her mother Was maybe Jewish Right sure

But he was coming to the bar mitzvah they were coming to the bar mitzvah and listen italians are are now welcome uh at synagogue so uh that's fine wait do do are people who are not jewish or men can they put on the yarmacca yeah yeah anyone can do it i was i was making a joke as if italians weren't only i got that one but yeah no it this is one of the more confusing things because it's just like uh he his uh bet middler's husband has an electronics business that he is going to get arrested over because of the fact that

he bought stolen goods from her uncle. Yeah. He didn't buy them. He just sold them. Right. Wouldn't that also implicate her uncle and tie them into a RICO case in which case he just snitched on himself to help. So window washers and mafia guys are watching this movie going,

going on so I didn't do the research. I imagine also therapists are watching this going, there's no way a therapist would see both a husband and a wife separately. Thank you. And we don't have Nerf bats. Yeah, no. At some point, so there's like the, like, you know, police come to like get Bet Midler's husband, Dan Hadea, I guess we'd just say,

Dan Hedaya. And we get the J.K. Simmons cameo. Right. J.K. Simmons is like has no lines. He just comes in an arrest of this guy. I think it's because he failed to get pictures of Spider-Man. Anyway, so, yeah, we're kind of like wrapping up. We're kind of wrapping up here.

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Okay, back to the show. We're back. It's free with ads. We're here with Chelsea Davidson from the Podstruck podcast. We're talking about the First Wives Club. Okay. Jordan, I have to say, it almost sounds like you're saying Davidson. Davidson.

Davidson. Davidson. Do you hear a D in there? Throw it away. I thought you were slipping a second D in there. No, I would never slip into second D. Do not. Don't even think about it.

I would never, Chelsea. Honestly, I think it's offensive. He's calling you by your maiden name. Well, I still go by that. Disgusting. I'm sorry, I'm disrespecting your husband, Chelsea, by not using it. So did I. I didn't take his name.

So, you know what? Like I said, first wife, we'll see if last. So the wives, they have a little. They have a little falling out. They kind of yell at each other. They have a little slap fight. They kind of call out Goldie Hawn for her drinking. There's kind of a moment where they pull out her garbage can

and it's full of like empty vodka bottles. And she's like, I had people over. And Bet Midler's like, who'd you have over? Guns and Roses? I think maybe that was even sweaty for 1996. Who's the coolest person of 1996? Is it Guns and Roses? I don't know.

I think that it is good writing, though, because it's like a woman like her. That's the reference. That is what she would say. You're right. Yeah, she wouldn't have the most contemporary poll. Right about that. So the way they trap Goldie Hawn's husband

is they make him think that Elizabeth Berkeley was under age when they were hooking up. I guess that she wasn't. sort of miss this part of the movie. So this is, this is kind of a little thing that's up for debate. Sure. Because you could take it as they did on earth, her old yearbook and discover this. However, there's a line where they say, like, oh, I haven't been able to find anything on him.

Like, he's, he doesn't have any skeletons in his closet. And there's something like that. And then someone says, we don't, I don't need to actually have anything. I just need to make him think he's done. something illegal. So that's why it seems like, okay, they're just making this up. Sure. It's a weird little thing.

I think the movie doesn't realize how dark it's being in that moment. It's this thing of like, ha, ha, got him. It's like, oh, but this is kind of icky. Anyway, so. Yeah, this six foot tall, a 15-year-old. Yeah, sure. And yes, Elizabeth Berkley does look like she's in her mid-30s in this movie. And she also looks like she's six foot seven.

Like she's a giant. Sure. Yes, she has, she played a stripper the year before this. So, anyway, we get the, so they get, they get a bunch of money. They kind of extort a bunch of money from their husbands. And they start turning their kind of revenge office into something beautiful. We get the, we get the needle drop that was destined to be in this movie from second one. And sisters are doing it for themselves. And they open not a revenge center, which you think they're going to do, but they open up a center for women, kind of named for their friend.

Yeah. It's very sweet. And they have a big old party for the center. It's like a crisis center, I guess. Yeah. Yes. Who's at the party, but Ivana Trump, who is the first wife of Donald Trump, who you might know for. from the Epstein files.

Yeah. Yeah, Ivana Trump, before she was in the golf course. Yeah. Oh, my God, I forgot about that. Pushed downstairs to her death and then ended up in the golf course. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway.

But Gloria Steinem. What a time. 1996. Gloria Steinem is also at the party. And guys, I met her. I have a photo with her. Chelsea, where'd you meet her? I did a show at Joe's pub that was full of famous people,

and I was brought in as the one not famous person on the lineup to do a Lena Dunham impression. And it was like Amy Poehler, Amy Schumer, it was just like, yeah, all the Amy's. Girl, I saw that plaque on the wall next to your baby's crib. There you go. Every time you say something about the house, I'm like, right, you were just here. I was, and you have no matches anywhere, and so many candles. So many candles. We have an electric lighter.

Where was it? I could have just told you. Also, your safe combination is super obvious. Well, no, you had so many candles. Your porno stashes, so disorganized. There were a lot of candles everywhere, and I was like, I'm going to light some candles. I lost my mind. I made a copy of your passport.

Is that okay? No, girl. I lost my mind trying to find matches. Yeah, yeah. So, Bet Midler and Dan Hedaya get back together. And I didn't mention this. They were, in college, they were a singing group, and they sang like girl group songs.

And they all, the kind of movie ends on a big choreographed, choreographs sing-along dance to, Leslie Gores, you don't own me. You don't own me. Yes. Yeah, and it's like, it's all kind of choreographed in the movie, is like a musical in that moment and it kind of made me wish

there were just more random musical numbers. Yeah. Yeah. Note to end on. It's interesting because a lot of movies, I think, in this vein, a lot of chick flicks, a lot of rom-coms open with a musical number. You know, like my best friend's wedding famously.

And there's so many that do this trope. And this is one of the only ones I can think of that ends with it. Aw, that's true. I mean, aside from like every Bollywood movie that like ends with a big dance. But for a movie, like this it's rare i think um well yeah that's the first wives club we're gonna say what we thought about

it but first you know we got to do the hunk watch it's hunk watch um Chelsea uh this segment we name a hunk of the movie um it could be someone you're sexually attracted to could be someone you just thought you did a great job it could be a monster you like if we're watching a monster movie we're not in this case but you know it could be the blob or something but um yeah do you have any thoughts on the hunks of this movie. We can go around the horn and come back to you if you'd like to know. No, okay. I just, I, maybe I'm breaking the rules, but you know what? You already said I'm a little bit of a bad girl.

Bad girl. So, here we go. All right, Hunga Award obviously goes to Timothy Oliphant. Because he's so hot. But, but, but I do want to give a special shout out. On our show, we would call it the Judy Greer Award for side character quirkiness. So I'll just say, my other. Hunk Award has to go to Sarah Jessica Parker

because she plays unlikable better I think than anyone because she manages to be uptight, neurotic, unlikable, just a bitch in a way that you love. Yeah. I want to see her be evil. I love her. And I think

that's, there's something inherently charismatic and sexy about it that just draws me in. So you know what, SJP, you also get Hunk of the movie. Hell, yes. You're so right. about that. And it makes me think about Family Stone, too, but she is... Exactly. She's super unlikable in it, but you still end up being like, I think I love her. I know.

Matt, any thoughts on the hunks of the film? Yeah, I mean, for me, it's got to be Dan Hadea. I'm a big Hadea head. I see him in a 90s movie. I watch. That's kind of the rule. I can't think of a single time he's been in a movie in the 90s, and I've ever switched the channel. He plays a great, you know, exasperated dad. And in this... Dad and clueless, right? Yes.

Oh, yeah, yeah, Dad and Clueless. Also, cheers. That's a dad. Mm-hmm. Right? Such a dad. He's in Cheers. He's like the scumbag husband of...

God damn it. Danny... Like, I can't remember her name. What's her name? Shelley Long. No, Danny DeVito's wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rea Perlman.

Rea Perlman. Yeah, that's your scumbag husband. He also plays the mobbed-up guy who's trying to kill Whoopi Goldberg in the first sister-acted movie. Right. Oh, right. Yeah. I mean, what a career. You pulled that one out.

I love Dan Hadea. So, yeah, for me, it's guy to Dan. I'm a Dan man. You know that guy's back hair is crazy. Oh, you know. Oh, yeah. You know it goes wild back there. It goes wild.

It's like steel wool. Yes, exactly. Rub that on. Rub that on plates. Talking about his body hair, I'm like, you're right. He is a hunk of the movie. Emily, any thoughts on? Oh, yeah.

It's Timothy Oliphant for me, dog. Sure, one scene, one scene. Oh, God, and done. One and done. All right. Now that we've talked about the hunks of the film, we're going to rank it on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials when we come back.

we're back. We're back. It's free with ads. We're going to rank the first wives club on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials with Chelsea Davisen. No, D. Thank you. The Podstruck podcast. But first we want to remind you to go to maximum fun.org slash join. That's how you support the show. That's how you hear all our bonus episodes. We got a bonus episode on the pilot of the Twilight Zone,

and we finally completed our trilogy of Cents and Sense of Pride and Prejudice. I sent the other one. We completed our Pride and Prejudice trilogy by watching the 80s TV Made for TV Pride and Prejudice. So yeah, we've watched all the free-filmed versions of that story. Wait, I got to ask Chelsea. Have you watched all of those? Yes.

Yeah, you're talking about the one, the Colin Firth show. That's the 90s. Oh, that's the 90s. I haven't seen the 80s one. There's an 80s one. Do you have a feeling on who the ultimate Mr. Darcy is? Having not having seen the 80s one. Wow.

Look, maybe this is controversial, but for me, is Matthew McFadden. Yep. Yeah, that's not controversial at all. Because Colin Firth is so charming that it's like he's not unlikable enough, you know? The character. Right. And in Bridget Jones, he's like a little too on the spectrum.

Like it's not even just like unlikable. He's just sort of weird. And then in love actually, he's great. Yeah, he is great. But you know who I also want to shout out? From Fire Island, that movie, great queer rom-com. Conrad Rickamora plays the Darcy character in that and is really good and is also pretentious. But I just love, I mean, I don't know, Matthew McFadden gets me all hot and bothered.

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And if people want to hear it, maximum fun.org slash join. There you go. What a little tease. A little tease. Just a little tickle. Chelsea. Yeah. We rank the movies on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials because that's what you got

to pay to watch it. You're our guests. We love having you here. Rank this movie, one to ten. and share your thoughts. I'm going to give it a seven. I liked it more on this rewatch because I think I already had gone into it now

knowing what it was, knowing it's not going to change my life maybe, but it's just going to be a good time, a fun good time. And I like how big it is. You know, Goldie Hawn, I think, really embodies this and nails it. But at times these characters,

Diane Keaton is like bouncing around while getting hit with a rolled up paper at one point. Like, it's a little bit loony tunes. They are plummeting from the sky. Like, it is bananas. And I really like that. If anything, I feel like they maybe could have gotten an eight for me if they turned that up even further.

Oh, wow. Because I think, like you said, maybe more musical numbers, maybe leaning into that like nine to five-esque energy, something like that because I thought it was at its most fun when And it did just like, I don't know, swing for the fences, baby. Take big swings. Swinging like a Nerf batten therapy. Matt Lieb, you're a fan of this movie going into it. What was the rewatch like?

I loved it even more this time than I did when I was a child and saw it with my parents. Yeah, I'm going to give it a nine. This is just one of my, like, all-timers. Okay, it's an all-timer. I was just so happy to be reliving it. And the banter is really incredible. Like there's just so many goddamn funny lines in this movie. And it makes you forgive all the plot holes.

So, yeah, I give it a nine. Emily, what do you think? One to ten. I'm also going to give it a nine. I love it so much. I'm feeling it like on the level of Moonstruck. I loved Moonstruck so much. And I feel like, I think Moonstruck is a little bit, a little, a couple degrees ahead of this one.

But I just think it. Now, Chelsea, also. Multiple Oscars. Okay, okay. Chelsea. Also, I stole a bunch of tampons and maxi pads. Not a bunch, just a few. I'm sorry.

You're doing a good job of dripping out this information of all the way to. I don't know. I just, I like being honest. Are you missing a child? Count the kids. Although I do have to tell this story. There is a noise machine in her house that just is on a timer, and I thought I was haunted. I thought there was a haunting in the house, and I was so scared.

It was in my three-year-old's room, and it comes on at, I think, 7 p.m. every night. I locked that room from the outside, because I thought a serial killer was in there fucking with me. A serial killer just going, shh. Yes, yes, yes, girl, yes. Anyway Sign up for Audible trial What?

Scared the fuck out of me Anyway, so I just think this cast is absolutely stacked. The supporting cast is amazing. I think it's a beautiful movie to look at. I loved like

every house, every room they were in. I thought the costumes were to die for. I just think this is three women who are just so incredibly powerful at comedy and to see the three of them have so much chemistry together and

individually was so fun to watch it's delightful I could watch it over and over again and never get tired of it so wow um guys I forgot to share my first wife story so I'll share it before I give my ranking so I had never seen this movie before but it sticks in my brain because of a weird experience I had around it um I was a one of my first LA jobs I was a Pee on the Ellen show. Yep, not a fun place to work. Nope, I won't tell you anymore unless you see me in person and buy me a drink. But yeah, so I was a PA on Ellen and you know that thing that happens when you haven't

seen a movie someone loves and instead of saying, boy, you should check that out, they treat you like you're insane. Yep. So I told, I forget who this was. I think it was somebody's assistant or like the receptionist. asked if I had seen the first wives club and I said that I had never seen the first wives club she flipped out to a degree

that frightened me she oh my you've never seen the first and ran around the office she got people out of their she drug people out of their offices corralled them in the like entrance way to all point at me

and yell at me for not having seen the first wise club it was the most insane version of I had ever experienced. And I'm like, listen, I don't want to gender everything. I am a 23-year-old guy. I know. It's not wild that I would enjoy this movie, but it's, you know, not that insane that I wouldn't have seen it.

Anyway, so I've always remembered this. And I'm like, I have to at least watch this movie someday. And I'm glad I got a chance to hear. It's middle-aged white woman Star Wars is basically like, Yeah, I know. It's like, usually it's like a white dude doing that to a woman about Star Wars. Yeah. But this, and you know, hey, a taste of my own medicine.

I'll take one for the team, I guess. Luke, I am your first wife. I don't even know what that's from. Is that it from the movie? You never heard that before. So yeah, I liked watching this and it is like, I can really understand why this movie has, like, hung around like it has. It really has.

It's like hung around in the zeitgeist. It is, I think, a movie. We'll rewatch a lot. And yeah, and I think it is not, it is a, it is a well-made movie where you have, you know, three leads, a whole cast of awesome people, but three leads who are like, really, like, doing this thing better than anybody in the world does this thing. That being said, I did not like the movie or watching it, so I give it a one. Anyway. Oh, my God. Wow.

Chelsea. Thank you for being here. It's not a bad movie. I just didn't like it. You just leave that and end? This is the widest disparity I think we've ever had for a movie. When has Jordan ever given anything a one? I might need to revise some of my other,

because we've watched a ton of worst movies. I just didn't like watching it. I love it. I love you. You're like, this movie is so bad it made me hate other movies even less. Yeah. Are you sure you don't just hate that experience of being bullied at work? Yeah, that definitely factors in.

It has to. My narrative for myself was like, I bet I would love this movie. All the people who, well, I guess they were saying that I should have watched it. Anyway, but I sat down wanting to like it and liking everybody involved. I just like didn't like what happened in the movie. Oh, my God. I feel like you're mad at us for liking it. I think it's a good movie.

I don't like tomatoes. I don't think tomatoes are bad and no one should watch them. I just don't want to ever eat a tomato. Right, but you're not saying, like, Like, it's just not for me. You're being like, fuck tomatoes. No, I'm not being fuck tomatoes. For me, it was a one.

It's like, if you see a tomato, you're knocking that sandwich out of someone's hands. I think for other people, this is a nine, this is a 10, this is a classic. I just didn't like it. Jordan, you are actively trying to recreate the trauma of your past by giving it a one. Maybe I want us all the point and yell at you about this. Like, my God, poor. I engaged with the movie. Like, I'm mad at you because.

Because you're making me defend it. I gave it a seven. I think everything everyone said about the movie was right. I think that it is a well-made movie of skilled people doing a great job. And one of them is dead. How dare you? No, it's a movie one does not take away from that amazing legacy. That's right.

Diane Keegan's legacy. My one bounces off that legacy. I don't like it. I don't like it. This is a bombshell moment. I just want to say on this podcast. This is crazy to me. I'm like, is this how you guys do things?

No. No, it's not. I only gave Godfather 2 a one. Oh, that's true. Did I? I think it's just a similar thing. Wait, wait, wait. Did you look that up just so you could have a defense for me?

I did. I'm remembering similar times. It was very low. It was very low. All right. Well, in that case, I understand. It's just that. Not my thing. And anyways, it's a tomato on my sandwich.

I'll take it off. Jordan, I really want to have you back on our podcast and make you watch something's got to give now because I'm like, let's do another Diane Keaton, fancy kitchen, all beige movie. beige, beige, beige, beige, beige. And let's see, will that get a one as well? I don't know. I need to know now.

We got to know. Chelsea, thank you so much for being here. Podstruck is a blast. Emily and I have both done it. So if you're headed over to Podstruck, you can check out our episodes first. Tell us more about the show, and is there anything else you want to plug? Ah, so Podstruck, it's called Podstruck, a rom-com rewind. We rewatch classic rom-coms to look at the good, the bad, and the totally sexist,

all the things we were too lovestruck to see the first time. And we dunk on the movies out of love. And both of you guys are two of our favorite guests that we had. in season one. And we're about to do season two. No, it's real. It's real. Cut it out.

So we can't wait to have you back. Other things to plug? No. No. Just the podcast. That's enough. I guess come house sit for me and steal my stuff. I didn't.

Listeners. You weren't even drinking that. Listen, I wash the sheets. You could steal it if it's dusty. I'm in the market for a new house sitter. so application is welcome. I'm just kidding. No, our dog loves Emily too much,

so we have to have her back. And I love the cat, but the dog won't let me pet it. Sounds like a country song. Emily, you got anything to plug? I'm going to go ahead and say the holidays are coming, and I have a shop on Etsy. It's phleg gems jewelry,

and there's definitely going to be stuff available for the holidays. coming up so keep your eyes out and uh yeah phleg gems on etzy uh yeah i'm gonna tell people to run to their local comic book store pick up an uh copy of predator black white and blood number four it's a predator anthology with a story from me and uh you're gonna want to get in that pre order for venom 252 another story from yours truly uh and superstar artist jesus saise um it's a backup story for venom but maybe it's kicking something off. I don't know. If you want to be up on your Marvel Comics, maybe get yourself a copy of Venom, 252, come in December 3rd. And if you are in the Southern California area, November 8th is a big day for seeing me. I'll be at the Burbank Book Festival

and the Revenge of Comics and Pinball Comic Creators Block Party. It's a long name. But I will be at both of those events. Check out social media for times, places, etc. Okay. Tune in next week when our movie will be The Running Man, 1987.