Free With Ads - The Grey

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Our third selection for Animals Attack August is the Liam Neeson wolf fighting movie "The Grey" which is less about humans fighting wolves and more about humans fighting God. You'll see.Tune in next week when our movie will be... Sharknado.-----August 28th, come to the Punch Line Comedy Club in Houston to see Matt and his wife Francesca Fiorentini! https://bit.ly/mattfranhtxWatch Emily Have You Seen This? on Mythical SocietyJordan will be at Cape and Cowl Con at Faction Brewing in Alameda on Aug 24. Find out more here!Jordan has some comic books coming out!Oct 1st, Predator Black White And Blood no 4.Dec 3rd Venom Issue 252

This is free with ads. This is free with ads. This is Free With Ads. The podcast. This is Free With Ads, the podcast that asked the question, why pay $20 bucks to a movie theater to see Liam Neeson in the naked gun when you can go online for free and watch him in a movie that may not make you laugh, but will make you sad and think about death. And that's okay because maybe it's just good to feel

something, anything, you know? I mean, what with the way things are going? You know what I mean. It's like, just turn on the news. Yikes. I'm Jordan Morris. Fuck, and I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is The Grey. The Liam Neeson Wolf Punching movie that could

He attains absolutely no wolf punching. With us, as always, is the super producer, the he freak, the alpha of our pack. Matt Lee putting this with those sub-zero drops. Sorry, that was my favorite part. At one point, he sees his friend getting eaten by a wolf. Liam Neeson, Academy Award winner, Liam Neeson, turns around and goes, oh, fuck. The same reaction, if you notice, you leave the. oven on.

Yeah. Oh, God. Same reaction to biting into a mozzarella stick that's too hot. Right. We are going to talk about the gray, partially because it's animal attack August, AAA.

I think there's a sting for this now. Yeah. Animal attack, August. Oh, fuck. Yeah. I should have added the all fuck. Well, it's Animals Attack August, the month where we celebrate movies about animals absolutely fucking up humans. And we're going to talk about the gray, perhaps the most austere, serious animal attack movie ever made.

But first, we're going to talk about something else we saw for free on the internet this week. Hey, I think it's time for another round of what's Matthew McConaughey talking about? The only game show where we play clips from Matthew McConaughey's social media and try and guess, what the fuck he's talking about. Hell, yeah. Okay, I'm, as the guy here, the most obsessed with Matthew McConaughey's social media, I will say that he is on one recently.

Posting up a storm, lots of, lots of tidbits, lots of mind-blowing philosophy, because he has a new book coming out. It's called Poems and Prayers, Poems and Prayers. And the website to, like, see the book is Poemsprayers.com. But if you just look at it, it looks like it's poemsprayers.com. Back up.

Matthew's got the poem hose. It's going to blast us with wisdom. Open up, get ready to get soaked by poems. You're going to get sprayed by some prose, and you're going to get sprayed by some rhymes. Oh, God, we got to get this guy a job so he can shut the fuck up. So Matthew Bacotta has a new book of home. Spun wisdom coming out. So he's posting a lot of musings, a lot of, you know, just just word, word salad, word salad thought explosions.

Sure. Yeah. That sound good because he's so confident, but mean absolutely nothing. So what we're going to do is we're going to play a new clip for Matthew McCona's social media, and we're going to have to try and discern what he's talking about. Being selfish is not a contradiction to being selfless either. I mean, look at every major religion, the divine promise of nirvana, the kingdom of heaven, paradise, where all believers want and hope to go, and since getting there, or not, depends on our actions in this life, to some extent. Isn't acting in accordance with these selfless teachings, ultimately the most selfish endeavor that we can have? All right. So what's Matthew McConaughey talking about?

all right who's going first Emily is for those of you listening to this podcast which is everyone Emily is making a stab myself in the face with scissors motion I think number one he's definitely going to hell just for that if hell exists all of that and the website

oh man I'm in hell bummer dude I should have wrote more books one the other one the other one One to go on the other one. But when you're getting fucked in the ass with a pitchfork, it's kind of like It's like when my daddy would put me on a bale of hay and give me a sip of corn whiskey and tell me every day is a sunshine day when you're with a horse. What is he? It's like, bro, just be a rapper.

I know you want to. Just be a rapper. Oh, he totally wants to. He wants to be a SoundCloud rapper so bad. but he's like... He can. He can do it. I mean, he could do whatever he wants. I think just put this to a beat and be that guy who's like, always wear a sunscreen.

Remember that song? Yeah. Everyone would play at high school graduations. Exactly. But here's what I think he's trying to. He's doing a Joel Austin kind of thing. Yes. Where he's justifying consumerism and selfishness as maybe it is spiritual to be a

selfish piece of shit. Mm-hmm. And being selfish is selfless. And it's like, okay, are you trying to do the thing where it's like, like put the mask on yourself before the infant in a plane. Is that what you're trying to do? Oh, sure, sure, sure, sir. I got you.

I got you. Yeah, I don't know what he's trying to do. But you're already in Nirvana, sir. You're wealthy and you have a hot wife. And you should not be talking to anyone about going to heaven or hell. Yeah, I don't think so. If you're feeling down, just do what I do and create your own tequila brand. I know.

But I think it's very interesting that he believes in hell. I think that he just doesn't seem like a dude Who would believe in hell I wonder who he thinks is in hell Probably people who are bummers Probably buzz kills Probably the guy who put up The first guy to put up a sign that says

No shirt, no shoes, no service That motherfucker's roasting in hell Yeah Whoever invented put in clothes on Yeah Well Emily I think that's a good guess But of course no one can ever win the game what is Matthew McConaughey talking about

I have a theory I do have a theory Yes Keep in mind you can't win the game It's impossible to win I think I can win this one Okay What he's actually talking about

He's doing the thing Where everyone loses I will say that Well yeah no We're losing right now Not just the game But listeners And our souls a little bit

I think he's I agree he's doing the thing Where he's justifying selfishness As like well if you think about it Trying to be good is also selfish because of the promise of heaven. But more importantly, what he's doing

is he's seeing that two words are similar and he's going like, what if I try to juxtapose them and make them both interesting in comparison to each other, which is something that is like a few degrees away from dude who's really into numerology, you know what I mean?

Where you just are like everywhere I go I see the number 13 type thing and it's like this is there's eventually we're going to get like Matthew McConaughey like bus stop psychosis where he's just going to be yelling in the middle of the street about how

two words kind of the same are you saying that Matthew McConaughey is Q? I'm saying that he if he had not wouldn't be the biggest surprise right would that shock you if he had not been discovered for being hot at a grocery store or

whatever, he absolutely would have been there on January 6th. 100% would be January 6th guy. He would be going to Nancy Pelosi's office and looking for the files. I'm pretty sure he's drank RFK's piss. A hundred percent. But he's mixed it with a little of his own tequila brand. That's right. God bless him.

It goes down smooth. Yeah, I like it. Those words sound similar. See, anybody can do it. Anybody can do it. Yes. Well, hey, if you want to know more about what Matthew Bacconi thinks about things, go to poemsprayers.com

and let him spray some poems at you. Yeah, it's Animal Attack, August. We're going to talk about the grave. But before we do, we want to let you know it deals with suicide. So if that's not something you want to hear us talk about, we're going to play some music and give you a chance to find another episode. We're back. It's free with ads. It's Animals Attack August. We're talking about the gray. Let's go around the horn. Matt, I think this was a you suggestion. Are you a fan of this movie? No, I've never seen this movie, but it's one of those movies where I had seen the trailer. I love the poster. And I was like Liam Neeson in a movie about attacking wolves.

sign me up and not only that but I knew it was well reviewed so I was like how come I haven't seen this incredibly well reviewed wolf attack movie and I'm glad I did but also I think it should be illegal to make trailers for movies that do not showcase what the movie is actually about sure yeah hard to talk about this movie without talking about its trailer which I think is like its legacy yeah it's legacy is like one of the most misleading trailers of all time. It's crazy. Emily, had you seen this one going into it? I've not seen the trailer and I had not seen the movie. Oh, okay. So I did see this movie in theaters.

I like, I am so all in on this flavor of Liam Neeson. I'm all in on the guy, period. Did everybody see Naked Gun? No, I still haven't. That's great. I'm going tomorrow. I'm going tomorrow.

It's awesome. And he's hilarious in it. National Treasure. Love this guy. I'm surprised as the first Liam Neeson movie we've done on this show. The Free With Adverse is like fucking choked with these movies of him punching Russians in the throat.

Oh, yeah. He's like the opposite of Matthew McConaughey. Do you think he's the yin to the yang? Maybe. Yeah, he's... Like he would never write a book. He would instead punch a crook.

You know? Sure, there you go. Those rhymes. When you could be writing books, you should be punching crooks. Absolutely. Absolutely. Matt, you just sprayed us

with a little poem there. Hey, who's to say? My eye. Yeah, I got it all up in your face. Don't get the poems in my hair. You can wash it off with some water. Anyway, poem on my tits.

Whatever. You can just say anything. You can just say anything. You want to on a podcast. Anyway, so yes, I like, I fucking loved Taken. I was like, so all about Taken. And when this movie came out, the trailer of the movie is basically that last shot. The trailer is the last 20 seconds of the movie where he fucking breaks the little

airplane bottles and makes them into Wolverine claws and it tapes that bowie knife to his hand and runs at the wolf

and if you're just looking at the trailer you're being like holy shit this is the movie when the movie is people wondering

whether or not God is real it's yep whole movie is about whether or not God exists and the answer

is no I think this is annihilation for bros yes yes dude this was i mean i i don't think i've seen a movie this like nihilistic and depressing um in this era before like this era of movies was 2011 everything was so hopeful yeah it was

exactly and so like people weren't ready for this shit i think this is i think this is the action movie for 2025 yes 100 just keep going break the bottles run at the wolf i don't know Keep going. Do you want to know something really crazy is I've been bummed out. Like I don't, you go through waves lately about everything that's going on of like, all right, I got to stay positive to keep going. And then you go into a little ditch. This movie cheered me the fuck up.

Like I got, I watched this movie. And then I was like, I feel things. And at least I'm not getting eaten by fucking wolves. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go to work. Yeah. It is, it does like the movie, the movie has a just like just keep going no matter what.

message that is like weirdly hopeful but also 10 of the most depressing things you've ever seen in a movie happen in this movie yeah it's crazy it's like a movie from the 70s just kind of like superimposed into like 2011 and also an animal's attack movie yeah and they sold this as like a block but like this is not it was not an Oscar bait movie this is like come see the guy from take and punch a wolf yeah you're right this does to me this is an Oscar worthy movie in my opinion yeah yeah yeah and And all of the performances in this movie are above and beyond. It makes like, like, I knew that I was not, you know, that I was, you know,

promised something else that was not going to be delivered, like 10 minutes into the movie when I was like, why is he acting so good? Yeah. It was like, it shouldn't be this good. It's all this atmosphere. There's a couple of comforting things about this movie that, A, like, I just love. a like I think that Liam Neeson is the pinnacle of masculinity in a movie like he's he's like comforting he's like tough and all that but there's a scene where he helps a man die at the

very beginning and it looked oh my god that scene oh my god that scene so nice yeah he kind of sold me on dying you should all be so lucky yeah I know I was like I hope I die in a plane with Liam Neeson. And then he's just telling me it's gonna feel warm right before it happens. It's gonna feel like a warm bath. And then him going, it's okay. It's okay.

It's supposed to be like this. It's okay. And it's like, this is the epitome of it's not okay. But it was okay. I loved it. But yeah, the opening, the opening shot, the music is cool immediately.

And the bar that he's in immediately love it. Yeah. Let's talk about the movie. So yeah, we open on. Talk about the gray, and I just want to play this just to get ready. What do you got? I don't recognize that.

That's the last bar of a kiss for Morose by Seal. Is that what he's saying, the gray? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A light hits the gloom on the gray. I thought he was saying grain. Yeah, well, it could be. It doesn't really matter. Yeah, back when, I mean, Seal, we all know, was a wheat farmer.

before it made me think about fields of gold sting another one of our favorite artists who we have not referenced desert rose in a very long time it's been a while we've grown up as a podcast yeah we do guys shit now dude dude there's a parallel there so um desert rose and kiss from a rose all right mcana hey oh oh shit time is a flat circle oh no circle okay okay um but yeah go ahead quick drink some of rfk He's piss. So yeah, we got some mountains. We got some Howlin Wolves. Liam Neeson, we hear in voiceover talking about how he's got a job at the top of the world.

He's the killer for a petroleum company. So there's this gas company kind of fracking the mountains. And Liam Neeson is a sniper who kills wolves so they can't attack the guys working on this in this factory. And yes, Emily, I wrote down, oh my God, this bar. There's a, like, bar, you know, they live in a little company town on the, you know, the refinery base or whatever, and there's a little bar that's playing fucking metal. And everyone's fighting. Everyone's just fighting as soon as he walks in. Yeah, I mean, how bad did you want to hang out in this bar?

So cool. I'm starting to think that the real wolves are the humans. Interesting. Is man the real monster? Is man real monster? Is wolf real man? I don't think that they seem like monsters to the wolves. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, not to the wolves.

Just stuff to fuck with, yeah, exactly. Little sandwiches. So, so. Manwiches. Mmm, yes. I'm sorry, I'm going to stop the puns eventually. It's McConaughey's influence. I know, we listen to 40 seconds of McConaughey.

Now we're inspired. My brain is fucked. I've got that worm in my brain, like RFK. No, yeah. Where are we going to find another worm for that guy? We've got to find more worms. Let's get the guy of worm. So he's just kind of drinking alone in this bar.

He, you know, thinks everybody around him is a shithead. And we learn that this voiceover, God, I mean, the movie just gets so depressing, so quick. Right off the bat. We learned that this voiceover is a suicide note. It's a suicide note that he's writing to his dead wife. And so he's, you know, just this lonely man up on top of this mountain shooting wolves. There's a little scene of him comforting a wolf that he has just shot. Yeah.

So he's comforting this wolf. he's writing the suicide note he keeps repeating the phrase live and die on this day live and die on this day um and he uh he we see a scene of him like putting a gun in his mouth but he can't do it he hears a wolf um he hears like a wolf off in the distance and that stops him there's a deleted scene to this movie where that's a bear that stops him oh shit i'm glad they deleted that because what are you going to add a bear there's no more bears yeah exactly it's a wolf movie Can't have a bear in a wolf movie? Yeah.

Yeah, for real, though, why weren't there? Can bears not survive in that kind of icy wilderness where the wolves were? I think they just decided to keep it all wolves all the time. Oops, all wolves. I wanted to see a bear fuck up a wolf. Listen, I'd also see a bear attack movie. By the way, we're not going to watch the revenant on animals attack August, okay? I'm good on that.

The Edge? You guys want to watch The Edge? I kind of want to watch the Edge. Ooh, that is a David Mammitt's Bear. attack movie starring Alec Baldwin and Anthony Hopkins. David Mamet, the playwright? The playwright. Oh.

He also write movie. He also write a movie. Very cool. And has bad take. Yeah, yeah. Oh, he mostly had bad take, but he was more of a bad take guy. Before he wrote bad takes. Yeah, yeah, he used to write bear movies and movies about the leads.

Yeah. The Lee, oh, yeah, the Glyndary leads, various heists. Anyway. Who told you you could work with men? That's what it's from the movie. Very Mamadie. Good mammat delivery. Thank you.

So he gets on the plane with a bunch of his, you know, the kind of the dumb guys he works with. There is a guy getting on the plane that has kind of a checkered beanie that looks like a like a blanket you would use for a picnic. I think this is the worst hat. Oh. The worst hat. And wouldn't you know it, the plane goes fucking down.

While the plane is going down, I just wrote down, ooh, Liam Neeson's got a great sweater. It's this great cable-knit sweater. He does. That is a good sweater. You get a good look at it as the plane's going down. Yeah, yeah. He looks so warm.

Yeah, he does look very warm. Yeah. So, and then, like, before it crashes, there's this great shot of, like, him in bed with his wife. And then it kind of, like, jolts, and he's in the, snow and his wife kind of disappears it's like an 824 movie that was amazing there's so much like arty shit in this movie that I think works really well dude it was it's very dreamlike and I think

it does a good job of feeling like what a near-death experience would actually maybe be like to your brain yeah yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of the like cutting back and forth between like sort of a disassociative thought or or memory and back into the like harsh awful evil reality that they are currently in. I will say this. His memories of his wife's giant, his wife's giant diamond earrings. Gonna need those.

Yeah, no. They look good. Well, she doesn't need them. Yeah, she buried with those. Where can I rob that grave? Where's that grave at? That's the sequel to this movie. The grave.

The grave. The grave. The grave. The grave. The grave. Yeah, I somehow have the wallet to go and like leave at her grave. I mean, if we're collecting the wallets,

we've got to collect the jewelry too, right? Yeah, also, we got to get these men better wallets. Like, it's all like the black Velcro wallets. I'm surprised none of them had a chain wallet. There's a couple people who seem like they needed it. Oh, no, Brian Setzer was killed in the plane crash. A stray cat died here. Oh, yeah.

The stray cat versus a wolf. The battle is old as time itself. Sure. So the song sound like. So they're kind of gathering up all the survivors after the plane crash. Yes, Emily, you mentioned he like helps a guy die. And like William Neeson's acting is like so beautiful in this. Like there's, they're so close on him, his face throughout this whole movie.

And it's just like a lot of face acting. He's so good at it. Did anyone else cry during that scene? Yes. I was, I filmed myself crying and posted it on Instagram. and this was the scene. I was like, holy shit, is this movie going to be like this the whole way?

Yes, it is. It'll get worse, too. I know. And yeah, he's like, who do you love? And he's like, he's like, Rosie, he's like, is that your girl? Let her take you then. Let her take you.

I love that he's talking with his Irish accent. Yeah, yeah. Like his goofy American accent, I really like making fun of because it's so bad. But like, I love that they're just letting him go like full, full Irish. Full, Dublin in this. Yeah.

He has a charming Irish. It's not very thick. It's kind of like my southern accent. It comes and goes. Yeah. He has a very light Irish. Light. Very light.

Let her take you to the Greek. Let her take you. You're going to feel warmness wash all over you. Did you guys notice that all of them had daughters? I'm sorry, yes. They did have daughters. Just all of them had daughters. I'm like, y'all can't make sons.

Your cum is weird. Yeah. No, I get it, though. very like, and you know, and I think this is a very like, you know, like movie for to make like Normies cry because they're all dads. Like no one is not a dad. And, and you know, the other guys in this movie, like I like this movie a lot, but there's like a lot you can criticize about it. Oh, absolutely. Like all the guys in this movie are so interchangeable basically. And they're just just dads with daughters. Dads with daughters. And dad when a dad, you know, and they don't really have a lot. a character other than that no and in fact they are so interchangeable that uh a few times i thought a guy died like three times like i swear i was like oh that guy finally died and then it wasn't him it was just some other guy i thought the guy who died in leum nison's arms was the guy the skinny blonde guy who was saying don't hold your head when you're going down a plane crash don't crouch

down because your skull will get bashed in yeah and i was like oh that's the guy and then he was there I was like who's this other whatever yeah I was like who died I just every time someone died I said wait who died and then I said it doesn't matter wolves well wolves are about to get punched don't you don't you think it's weird

that I guess for normies that having a daughter is somehow more moving than having a son like why is that I think that's weird because have you ever had but have you ever like hung out with a little boy you're a girl dad can you I'm a girl dad as a girl as the resident

as a resident girl dad uh i like prayed for a girl because i've just known too many piece of shit little boys and like if you're having like the memory that one of them has like as he's dying and is like i remember my daughter like putting her hair on my face and then you know cut to he's it's it's he's get eaten by a bunch of dogs my god that's my god it's so I knew it was going to happen too I was like he's being eaten by wolves but uh like that is a memory you could only have with a sweet adorable little girl little boys

I love sniffing his head right what are the little boys memories going to be oh I remember him you know waking me up by like putting Legos in my mouth he threw a switch controller at me yeah exactly he yelled at me and he called me some sort of slur

he made up you know little boys are monsters whereas little girls are wonderful angels He set my shoe on fire Because I wouldn't let him play Fortnite Also, it's like Matt, people will be so much more sad if you die

Exactly, that's the other reason I want to grow It's like, oh no, everyone will cry If a girl dad dies A boy dad A boy dad dying is just a failure of a dad A girl dad dying is a tragedy You understand? Yep, yep

So yeah, not a lot of women in this movie You have the daughters that we basically see in Wall photos. You have the Some of the wolves, I'm assuming. Some of the wolves, yeah, you know, wolves are nature's girl bosses. Absolutely. I've always said that.

But you have the stewardess on the plane who is the first person we see getting eaten by wolves. They try and save her, she's getting eaten by wolves. Oh, fuck, there's wolves on this mountain. So yeah, they the wolves, like, they say like, oh, Liam Neeson just knows all about him because he hunts them.

so he's like they're man eaters they smell blood we got to get out of here um so yeah we have a guy who kind of goes off to pee he gets eaten by a wolf um and then so they like kind of they go out to like they're like they see some trees off in the distance so leon nison's like if we get to these trees maybe we can like make a stand maybe we can be safe um this guy's like praying to god so you know there's a lot of like does god exist stuff here some guys are like he does exist some guys are like you know he's a fairy tale there's a guy who's like thank you thank you for sparing us keep that up if you can lots of those fucking great lines yeah meanwhile there's one character uh in this who just serves as the heel but for kind of no reason yeah he felt like a studio note

character like uh you need a guy who's uh like just not a team player and as i'm watching and i'm like yeah but why is he not a team player there's no yeah again you don't learn anything about anyone, basically. This guy's Frank Grillo, the actor Frank Grillo. He's the kind of just like guy who's just a problem for a lot of the movie. He spends the most of the movie just whenever Liam Neeson has got a plan for how to deal with the wolves. Who, by the way, Liam Neeson, professional wolf dealer guy, you know? Yeah. The fact that someone is like, why are we listening to this guy? Yeah. I don't know. It's kind of his whole thing. It's his whole thing. And he spends most of the movie just going, oh, so I guess you're the leader of us.

And it's like, well, he is the only guy who kills wolves for a living, dude. And you hear his accent? He sounds so great. He's very tough. It's, it is so funny. He's also the tallest guy. He is the tallest guy. He is the tallest guy.

He is the tallest guy. He's the biggest, the strongest, the tallest, the hottest. Yeah. But like, it's true. But it's also like, I think that there's a scene where Liam Neeson's character calls that guy out really well. He goes, you're afraid. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that.

And it's like sometimes I think people who are afraid lash out and want control, even though they don't know how to assert control. And so he just needed to lash out. And Liam Neeson, like, knew that. Right. And God, I love that man. I want him to be my father and like my husband. Husband father.

Husband father. I'll be Mormon for Liam Neeson. I don't know what it is, but I just want him to kill me. Oh, I do want him to kill me. But they tell you like, it's okay. Yeah, no, right. I mean, I want him to talk me to death. He was just like...

Could you imagine being like surrounded by hot men? Like, is it Dylan McDermott or Dermott Mulroney? One of those. I was like, one of those. Him in glasses. Hubba, hubba. And then also Liam Neeson like going, it's okay. It's okay.

And going to die? It's okay to die. It kind of, this movie made me go, because I've been very scared of death lately. I don't know why. Well, in the past I've kind of like, did I lock my door tonight? when I'm in bed and then sometimes I'm like oh who gives a shit who cares take me like I'd be like I just fucking break in I don't give a yeah but like but now I'm like no I want to be I really want to be alive I think it's coming with age age I want to be like it's age I have confirmed with IMDB because I did not know either and I believe

that is Dermit Mulrooney okay great yeah but I think that it was he's so right that that that guy is just very scared and wants to have control, but he has no control over where they're going. But I think there's also a parallel with pack, like, you know, there's a pack of wolves and here's a pack of men. And there's probably a challenger to somebody in the pack, which the alpha male wolf thing is not real. That's been like disproven. Right. Yes. We do have a, you know, quote, like alpha male in this movie. That's what our expert Liam Neeson says, which I think for this movie, which didn't happen in real life I'll just accept it

yeah I think probably maybe this movie drives wolf scientists insane 100% and hey if you're out there and you're a wolf scientist we don't want to hear from you we don't care

we don't want to know why it doesn't I'm okay maybe I might be well here's the other thing that's interesting in the 90s do you remember that there were just fuck tons of wolf movies like white thing balto we had so many um i was a huge white fang fan i had like tons of wolf like stuffed animals and toys i

really liked wolves and they always seemed like you know they're the original dogs like and humans befriended them and this movie is like fuck the 90s i will eat the 90s wolf movies to death like it's crazy to me yeah if you say go on get out of here they don't just run off sadly yeah yeah Ethan Hawk would die so fast in this movie. I would have tried a bad dog just to see. If one of them was like, oh, shit. Just throw a stick. I hurt my feelings.

Spray him with a spray bottle. That's more cats, I guess. Off the couch. Call Caesar Milan. Rub his nose and his own shit. Yes. Leave it. Leave it.

Yeah. Drop that. the hand so the wolves are just like fucking people up left and right they make these cool like spears out of shotgun shells those are kind of cool

Liam Nisa kind of rigs up all these weapons it's really neat and yeah so you know people kind of just start dying we learn that the live and die on this day that we heard in his suicide note is from a poem his dad wrote

there's some like little flashbacks of him and his dad Oh, his dad is Matthew McConaughey. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, he got a poem sprayed on him at a young age. My father used to spray poems in my face. He was made from the spray. And then I talked to him to death, as I do.

I tell people that are going to die, and it sounds like a good idea coming from me. Life isn't great anyways. It ain't like it's a bowl of lucky charms. How dare you? Sorry. To all of our Irish listeners, I'm so sorry. It's all you sound like to us. Sound off on Reddit if you're an Irish listener, honestly.

I'm curious. So people are just dying. It's not all wolves. A guy like freezes during the night. And that's really sad. Oh, that was really sad. And they start to find like evidence of people. They see a tree that had been like clearly cut down.

It was like marked by a logging company or something. So they kind of think they're at least, you know, coming up on some people. They do this really, like, harrowing stunt where a guy takes a rope and jumps, like, off of a cliff and grabs onto a tree. And then they, like, yeah, he used to climb the tree down. And so, you know, they, you know, and then they all can, like, shimmy across the rope to the tree. And Dylan McDermott or Dermott Mulroney, I've honestly forgotten which it is. Who care?

having just lucked it up two minutes ago. One of the DMs. One of those DMs. He slides into our DMs and slides right off the rope. Right off the cliff. Well, he loses his glasses, which I was like, he starts to look down the ravine. And I'm like, don't do it. You have glasses on you, stupid fuck.

And then he loses glasses. And I was like, oh, he's done. He's done. So, yeah. So Matt alluded to this. This is one of the more devastating things in the movie. This guy is like, of course, another girl down. his thing is like he always felt his daughter's like hair brushing him in the face and that's like his sense memory of his daughter he hits the ground and then we see hair brushing him in the face and a little daughter and it's this like very sweet moment fucking hard cut hard ariaster hereditary cut this guy getting eaten by wolves it is so fucked up and so like it is already and fucked up biggest laugh of the movie i got to say

Honestly, I kind of thought, as that was happening, I was like, I bet it's wolf fur that he's feeling it. And then it was. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's a few things in this movie. There's a few moments that I was like, I wasn't sure if I was impressed by the restraint or mad that they weren't giving me the slop I wanted.

But it was like, you know, there was moments where they could have made it a wolf movie and didn't. And that moment, I was just really glad they followed through. I was like, come on, please let him be actually getting eaten by wolves. The moment where he jumped off the cliff, or not jumped off, but he started to go down and shimmy, I was like, and he's going to get attacked by a wolf. I thought at some point someone would like swing from that thing and then he would get someone who get eaten by a wolf like a dog catches a frisbee in the air. I was like kind of expecting that and the fact that they didn't do it I was like I think that's really impressive but I'm mad

well I think that that death was the most alligator to yes of any of the ones but it still felt like real yeah this guy they go he's wounded he fell down take him out bye bye yummy yummy we got we got two more interchangeable dudes left to to die before the final confrontation, and we're going to talk about those dudes right after this. We're back. We're back. It's free with ads. We're talking about the gray as part of Animals Attack August.

So there's two more guys and then Liam Neeson. Frank Grillo, he just gives up. He just decides he's going to sit down, look at the view, and die. Straight up says fuck it. It is one of the funniest moments too because he is this character. He plays Diaz, who's the guy who's spent the first half the movie going like, we didn't elect you as king of the survivors. Why are we listening to this expert?

I'm not afraid. I ain't no punk Oh yeah yeah You're a punk I've never been afraid of nothing Oh I sure have learned a lot About myself In getting almost eaten by that dog

And then he just is like Forget everything I learned I'm gonna sit here and die It is beautiful actually But it's also selfish Because it's like Having three as a pack Is like a little bit more

Yeah Intimidating to the wolves Than two I feel like You might as well just keep limping along with your buddies. Die with them. Yeah, die with them.

While they're eating you, at least they can get up behind the wolves and kill them or something. Sure. They killed how many, there's one wolf I remember them killing and then they ate it. Yeah, yeah, the Omega Wolf.

Yeah, Alpha Omega, oh my God, beginning and end. So he was the shittiest wolf? He was the shittiest wolf. Yeah, that was the whole thing. Yeah, they said like, oh, he's an outcast from the pack and they sent him in to test us. Yeah.

Obviously wolves don't do that. They don't have a weird fucked up Klingon society. Yeah, they have like that one bro who's kind of like, we don't like this kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He smells like dirt and cheese. Get him out of here. Yeah, we're going to send Greg over to those guys. He's probably going to die.

He'll probably eat Greg. Can I say that the CGI of these wolves is very never-ending story that fucking, you know, that wolf that's in the cave that's like, I like that one better than the CGI in this. But they don't show. the wolves like very close up very often and the snow really helps to kind of like camouflage it but of course fur is incredibly difficult to do with CGI sure and and we're in the age of not being allowed to have animals in movies but I kind of okay hear me out pita yeah all right a message to pita a message to pita can't we find a way to make it humane or something yeah to have some animals and stuff

Like what if those animals had done crimes? Yeah, well just Convict cats As part of their community service Yeah, they have to be They have to be and look who's talking for But I mean there's working dogs at the police Like is it abuse for the cops to be using dogs?

Probably Yeah, probably So yeah, PETA go after that Like I don't know, I think that we should be able to have wolves in movies again I just feel like I don't disagree I actually think They got it backwards. Like, they need to bring animals back in movies and they need to ban children in movies.

Amen. And replace the children with CG. All kids should be CGI. 100%. Every kid, Andy Circus in a mocap suit. Let's just polar express those kiddos. We can do it. We have the technology.

So Frank Grillo dies. He just sits down. He says, I'm not afraid. You hear like a little bit of a wolf growl. Yes. And then so the last guy, the most, the most. the most like qualityless man

on this journey oh there's one more guy I don't know I liked him a lot I don't remember anything I can't differentiate him between the others I can because he looks like

he should be related to John Ritter he just should be but he's not but at the very beginning where Liam Neeson and his help that guy die he's giving the best crying performance

he's what made me cry He's, like, sobbing. Oof, he's, I think he's one of the best, like, sad actors in this movie. Yeah, I didn't even know that was him because, again, I can't tell the difference between all these people. But, yeah, he was great in the scene where he's crying. I think Frank Grillo is great in the scene where he gives up. Like, this guy is just, like, a fifth on the call sheet meat and things. Like, he's a generic villain in the Marvel movies.

He was in Rampage, you know. And he's, like, actually, he's good. in this and that like that was like an oscar like worthy monologue kind of thing yeah there's a few of those in this um yeah and you think that frank grillo death is going to be like oh man that's the saddest death nope yeah okay so this dude this this guy with the cry face he kills me falls into a river and gets trapped under a log and Liam neason is trying to save him and like his face is just barely under the water. Have I told you guys the story where I almost died and this happened to me?

No. You were from wolves? No, from water. No, I was canoeing with a friend and there was a tree that like had fallen across the river. And we were like arguing. We were drunk, of course. And the canoe tipped. but it was like three feet of water so it's like oh well whatever so we're like bringing the canoe over to the sandbar and it gets sucked under the tree

and I went under with it and was pinned between the canoe and the tree and I could put my hand out the water but I couldn't get my head out so this scene watching this was like I can't watch it out did you die I no no I just pushed my I put my arms on the canoe and just shoved my body through the crevice. And like I was bruised all the way from my titty ribs front of my legs but I got the fuck out

and my mom came to the sandbar and she goes, well, you all right? And I was like, yep, she goes, okay. Well, Emily, that was your moment of fucking breaking the bottles taping the knife to your hand. You're living at any cost. And my mom,

I thought she was going to be so mad at me and then have a talk with me about drinking or whatever and she goes, well, you okay? Yep, she goes, well, I think we learned something today. Just walked by, do, do, do, do, do. No, she, my mom's a way better canoer than me. She got in her canoe and was like,

all right, see you back at the camp. I'm gonna do. Still alive. I hated this scene because I was like, can't you go under there and dislodge his fucking shoe from the rock? I mean, the whole scene is just so, it's just so horrible to watch

because he's trying to, he's just trying to wrench him free. He's like inches away from being, you know, not submerged. And meanwhile, the guy is just screaming underwater, help me. And he keeps saying, it's just like, just hold your breath. And part of me also was like, what are you doing? You don't need to scream at him right now. He knows you're trapped under the water. But it's like trying to communicate that my shoe is stuck in a rock, but you can't talk.

And so you can't even communicate it. But it is true. Like just everybody knows, shallow water is sometimes the most dangerous water because you could get stuck and stuff. It's really fucked. And it was a tree that had gone over the fucking river. And it's those, y'all don't canoe and there's a tree over. Could never be me. I'm telling you what.

Can never be me. I simply would have just drunk as much water as I needed to in order to. survive if you really wanted to live you would have just drank all the water I should have just waited to get warm under that fucking tree yeah yeah yeah

don't worry it'll be warm like a bath it'll be warm to and under the tree I'm peeing in the water so you can be warm be with the one that you love when little rosy takes you to the other side who do you love

oh is it oh it's your it's your anime body pillow sure fine yes Hotsonimiku is taking you to the other side Sailor Jupiter Oh fuck Sailor

Sailor moon Anyway So Liam Mason's the last guy He is So yeah He's like having this like huge Huge crisis of faith As you probably would in this situation

Sure And he's just yelling at God He's like do something Do something Fuck faith Earn it Oh, I love this. I love this part.

And then he goes, fuck it, I'll do it myself. Yes. Fuck it, I'll do it myself. That rules. So he, and yeah, and that's when we get this, like, kind of famous final 20 seconds. He realizes he's, like, crawled right into the wolf's den. Yeah, he's in the den. And I like, then, they do, like, a wide shot of him in there.

And it's like, well, yeah, there's a lot of ribs and skeletons around. Yeah. Maybe you would have noticed that. Yeah, yeah. I think I would have noticed. He's too busy organizing wallets. Yeah, he's too busy organizing wallets and yelling at God to show himself. Yeah.

We should say as the guys die, they like collect their wallets in order to like bring them back to the family. So he's like just, when they realize a guy is dead, they like take his wallet as kind of a symbol. Right. Yeah. And he looks at all the pictures and it is just a bunch of daughters. Dads and daughters. Dads and daughters. So yeah, he gears up.

He breaks the little airplane bottles. puts them in his fingers like Wolverine claws he like tapes a bowie knife to his hand he says his dad's poem one more time and all of the other wolves they all scatter because he's going to fight the alpha wolf

yeah the showdown and you're so stoked and you're like fuck yeah let's go let's go you're looking at the run time you're going I guess they can get this done in five minutes no cut to fucking credit although guys

did you know there's a post credit scene? No! Is that? There is a post-credit scene to this movie that it's, so it's his head laying on the wolf and it's still breathing. And it kind of mirrors that scene of him like comforting the wolf he shot in the beginning. If you sit through these entire fucking credits, it's like two seconds of him laying on the wolf and it's still breathing. The wolf is still breathing? The wolf is still breathing. You don't know if he is. Bro. Yeah, I know. And then Nick Fury comes in and says. He said, is that Captain America Shield?

That's so. We're putting together a team. Well, I mean, if the wolf is still breathing but laying down, I have a feeling they're both injured. They're both fucked up for sure. They're both fucked up. As this was happening, like he's doing the poem. The music is like reaching crescendo.

I sat there going, there's no way they're about to do an art. they better not do an art and then as soon as a cut I started cracking up because I couldn't believe that they actually tricked me into watching a movie about art

like they've tricked me into watching a movie that was about what if a man fought God? Yeah is it if there is no God is it worth it? Yes. Is anything worth it?

If God indeed does not exist is anything worth it. Yes. Well, it's all there is. And yeah, and I think that's like, that's, that's like how this movie will be remembered as this great rug pull of like the trailers faking people out. Because yeah, like, bros went to see this just thinking it was taken. Yeah.

And then they got this. So totally wild. Well, let's talk about what we thought about it after we talk about the Hunk Watch. Oh. It's Hunk Watch. I mean, do we even need to have a conversation? I don't want to assume. I have assumed hunk watch things in the past and been wrong.

But maybe this is the clearest one we've ever done. Is there? Does anyone want to make another case for anyone? I have a case for one other. Okay, let's hear it. Alpha Wolf. Oh, yeah, sure. Alpha Wolf is huge.

And he is very fuzzy, very beautiful. And honestly, probably a sweetheart if he ever met me. You ever look at like a really a wild predator on like National Geographic, like a bear or like a lion and go like, I could be his friend. Yeah. I would adopt a submissive posture. Yeah, me too. I would show my belly and I'd be like, can I join your wolf gang? And I think he would allow me to be like, he's mad.

He's kind of weird, but like, I don't know, he'll help. You know? Yeah. I agree. is very stoic and beautiful. Yes, but Liam Neeson is, I think, one of the biggest hunks of all time. Absolutely.

One of the greatest hunks to ever live. To ever hunk. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And he just was like a, I think that this is, we've had a lot of hunks that I'm obsessed with. Sure.

But I think this is, but there's a definition of a real man. Mm. This is it. Absolutely. he was like kind calm under pressure trying his best to help others yeah like oh god good with a sniper right yeah likes poems yeah like poems drinks but not in excess good at organizing loved his wife also we've talked about i think you talked to me about this jordan about how you know they're liam nison's real wife from real life

passed away. Yeah. And he did a lot of movies after that. People thought that he had money problems because he was doing so many movies. Yeah. So Liam Neeson is kind of like at one point had a Nicholas Cage-like output of just doing like 10 taken clones per year that all came out on Red Box or something. Yeah. Yeah. And I read an interview with him that kind of like suggested it's because he after his wife died tragically, he just didn't know what to do with himself and just say yes to everything. So this is. So this. movie feels like wow but he must have put a lot of actual real life you know experience into this because yeah yeah yeah there's the the wife that is dead and want not wanting to be here because

he wants to be with his wife like you know and the yelling at god like what's the point of all this you know yeah and it so it just i kept thinking about that while i was watching this movie and i was like wow it's so amazing that he was able to do this movie um like you know like despite all the stuff that he'd been through. That's amazing. Yeah. All right. That's our Hunk Watch.

We're going to rank this movie on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials when we come back. We're back. It's free with ads. We are going to rank the gray on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials. But first, I wanted to remind you to go to maximum fun.org slash join. That's where you can become a max fund member. That's where you can support the show. And that's how you hear our bonus episodes. We've got some good bonus episodes up for you now, including our deep dive into the pilot of Frazier, a TV show, which we really love. I was surprised. I knew I liked Frazier, but the pilot is something special.

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I really enjoyed the movie. Once I realized what it was going to be, after the plane crashed I was like oh this is more alive than it is alligator you know that's when I

I think I kind of accepted that it was going to be a rugpole although I didn't realize how much it was going to be a rug pull and it was truly it's kind of an amazing movie it's called the gray

and you're expecting like well why is it called the gray I guess because it's gray out it's like no but because real life is purgatory it is neither heaven nor hell and this movie is going to be like being in purgatory

oh wow I don't even think about that yeah which is I don't know it's a lot for a wolf movie and I was very impressed by it even though it didn't avoid some of the tropes of the you know supporting cast

but yeah you could probably do a Jacob's ladder for this movie where maybe they just all died in the plane crash or maybe this is just what happened in Liam Mason's head

or something yeah yeah yeah it's crazy that the movie is actually more pessimistic than the movie alive which is about real people who actually did survive a plane crash

they had to like eat each other's butts and stuff but they actually live a bunch of millennials Remember when that was the thing about millennials? It's because that fucking episode of girls were the eight butts. It's all Lena Dunham's fault. It's all Lena Dunham's fault. But yeah, it's weird that it's more pessimistic than that.

But it was also mostly a metaphor, which I like because I am refined. Yes, very. Emily, what did you think? I agree with Matt. This is an eight. It would have been a tippy tin if we had seen the fight scene between the alpha. Go the fight. I can't believe they took that away from us.

Yeah, yeah, I'm still a little mad about that. I wanted to see him fight, kill the alpha, but also die. Or lose completely. Like, try and then just get his ass kicked and eaten. But get some good licks in. Like, get some big licks in, like some kind of satisfaction for him surviving this long, at least go out swinging. Yeah.

It looked like he was going to, because I was like, oh, that wolf's going to get fucked. He's got that knife. And the glass bottles, I was like, oh, he's going to get it. He's going to get it. Like, it was, they cut to black like it was a fucking season, series finale of the Sopranos. I know. That's so funny. The journey needle drop was weird, too.

Kind of came out of nowhere. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you guys too. I think it's an Aene. I think this is a really, really good movie that, like, maybe kind of like, unfortunately, its legacy is like the weird trailer stuff and the rugpole. but it's kind of hung around. So I think people hopefully can like watch it for the movie that it is

because I think it's a really good one. I really like this movie. And yeah, Liam Neeson, one of our best. Watch it with a girl dad today. Find your local girl dad. Make him watch this movie to make him feel like he's doing the right thing by raising a girl. That's right.

All right. That is the gray. Plugs. Anybody got anything? As always, I'm going to plug. Emily, have you seen this show? I have on mythical society.com. It's available to second and third degree members.

It's my show, mine. I love it. I'm proud of it. Please watch it. Please, I want to keep doing it. I love you. Yeah, and I will be at the Houston Punchline Comedy Club on August 28th. If you are in Houston or the surrounding area, please come out to that and see myself and my wife, Francesco

Fiorentini, do some stand-up. It's going to be really fun. comment. All right. And I got a couple of things for you to put on your comic book pull list. That's right. If you got a pull list down at your local comic book store, here are a couple of things for you to pre-order. Number one, on October 1st, you're going to want to pick up Predator, Black, White, and Blood. Number four. This is a anthology comic book series about The Predator. That's right. Everybody's favorite, hear me out. Traveling through time, fucking up shit. I wrote one of the stories in it. It was so, so much fun. As you know, I love The Predator. And this one maybe shares some themes with today's movie. It's a story for all the pet weirdos out there.

Oh, cool. So if you like The Predator and you're a pet weirdo, check out Predator Black, White, and Blood number four out August 1st for Marvel Comics. Also from Marvel Comics coming out December 3rd, Venom, issue 252. Okay, Venom, it's going back to the legacy numbering. That's right. We're all excited about that. They're doing something special for 252 because that was the issue of Spider-Man where he got the black suit.

So there's a really cool issue of Venom coming out with a bunch of alternate reality venom stories, one of them written by me, and it features a mysterious new Venom character getting a symbiote that is not black, but red, white, and blue, like the original Spider-Man costume. Who is this mysterious character? Sure, you have to read to find out. That comes out December 3rd. Venom 252, pre-order it now from Marvel Comics. Okay, tune in next week when our final movie of Animals Attack August will be fucking Sharknato.

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