Free With Ads - The Peanut Butter Solution
Episode Date: November 25, 2025This week we are celebrating one of the strangest and most Canadian films ever made, a children's (?) film called The Peanut Butter Solution about a kid who loses all of his hair and takes bad advice ...from a wino's ghost.Tune in next week when our movie will be... Jim Henson's The Christmas Toy-----Visit Emily's ETSY store FlemGems!If you are in California, Jordan will be here on these dates!Wed Dec 3rd - Merced Public Library 5pm - 7pmSaturday Dec 6th - Thousand Oaks Public Library 2pm - 3pmGet a copy of Jordan Morris's comic book Predator: Black White and Blood #4!
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This is free with us, we're with us.
the podcast that asked the question,
why pay Disney plus 12 bucks a month
for wholesome family-friendly films
when you could go online for free
and watch a wholesome family-friendly film
with the baffling nightmare logic
of a David Lynch movie. I'm Jordan Morris.
And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie
is the peanut butter solution,
the 80s cable classic that sounds like
it could also be the name of a jam band.
You went to see with the smelliest person you ever dated.
With us, as always, is the super producer,
The He Freak, Matt Lieb, hitting us with those longs,
slowing drops.
Get out of here and let a guy do what he's going to do.
Don't ask me what that's from.
Don't ask me what part he says that.
One of the weirdest moments in children's television history.
Yeah.
A truly amazing.
I hadn't seen this movie, guys, wild.
I was not prepared.
You haven't?
No.
Not even aware of it.
I had heard legends of it.
And boy, what a.
what a ride
before we talk about this movie
which is as of this recording
streaming free with ads
we're going to be talking about something else
we saw for free on the internet this week
guys
thank you there's a sting
at some point I'll remember that
as you guys know
my homepage when I open up my internet
is bluegrass today.com
I love to check it out bluegrasstay.com
my favorite website
and of course I was excited to
that Bluegrass Today.com had posted the 26 Bluegrass Grammy nominees.
And boy, howdy, what a treat.
One of those nominees for their new album Outrun is the Steel Drivers,
featuring Mike Fleming, most famous, of course,
for being mentioned on this podcast.
A lot.
By Emily, because it's her dad.
Emily, your dad's nominee.
Your dad has a Grammy, right?
for being a bluegrass musician.
Yes, he does.
But it was their last nomination
and their win so far is from 2016.
So this is 10 years after the fact.
And I'm so stoked.
This is really cool.
And they had like a couple albums come out this year.
They had a gospel album come out.
Or no, no, that came out like a couple years ago,
actually, tougher than nails.
But there's a couple of kind of gospely songs
on Outrun, but yeah, I'm so excited.
That means they finally are going to visit me, my family.
Yeah, I was going to say, it does.
It's been 10 years since Emily has seen her mother and father.
They came and helped me move.
Okay.
Wow.
But that was when I moved into the apartment that I'm in now.
So that was like 2021.
Yeah, that was a minute ago.
They don't really, they're not like, I don't want to, you know.
I kind of get it.
They never visited me in New York when I lived there either.
Yeah, New York sucks even more.
Are you, do you have like, are you going to get to have family time?
Are you going to get to take them around to the Walk of Fame and the Wax Museum?
The La Brea Tar Pits?
They would love the Tar Pits.
You would love it.
I don't think they're going to want to do that.
I think that we're like a, we like to go out to eat and get cocktails and like, you know, that's kind of what we do.
We can do that at the tarpits.
You can do that at the tarpits.
Well, I don't know.
You can sneak a tall boy into the tarpits.
Yeah, it's B-Y-O-B.
We will.
B-Y-O-B is bring your own dinosaur bones.
Yeah, so I know they're going to come out here.
Last time, it was the year that I was, in 2016, I was just visiting L.A.
to figure out if I was going to move here.
And so I was just here, and I got a dress from a little, like, thrift store.
and went to the after party
for their record company
and I'm hoping I get to go
to a before party and after party
but my mom takes, you know, precedent.
Oh, yeah.
She's like, but she didn't want to go
to the before party or she just let me
have a ticket to go.
Would there be someone who might be at a Grammy party
who you would be like, oh my God, I would freak out?
I mean, there's probably a couple of people,
but does someone come to mind?
P. Diddy.
P. Diddy? I would freak out
because like, shouldn't you be a gym?
Jail? How did you get out?
No, that was a joke. That was a joke. Kanye was.
Oh, yeah. That's a good.
Well, I honestly, the first thing that comes to mine is Chapel Rhone. I'd be like stoked.
Oh, my God. I'd be stoked and then I'd want her to like. Mother, you would say, mother.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't be too scared to talk to her, but I'd like, I don't know. I want to know what she smells like.
Sure.
Smells like mother.
Yeah. Smells like Mama.
Yeah, that would be super cool. I feel like I just listen, or Billy,
Islesherst thing? Isn't that so like lame? I'm so old.
No, those are cool people. Those are the stars of today.
I will say Allison Krauss and Union Station is also nominated in this category.
So for the sake of the steel drivers, fuck you, Allison Krause.
There are enemy now.
There are enemy now.
But I would love love.
Are you married to Elvis Costello? Maybe. I think so.
Don't care. Is that who I'm thinking of? Who am I thinking of?
Allison Krause, she won like album of the year with Robert Plant. They like did a like
she's won plenty of times.
Yeah, she's a big name.
And also the steel drivers have one.
So it's not like they're losers in any stretch of the word.
But I just, I would love to meet Alison Krauss.
I think she's so cool.
You know what I'd like to meet?
Weird Al Yankovic.
I would rule.
Wouldn't that rule?
I have met word out.
Yeah, I'm on his Christmas card list.
Really?
Are you on his Christmas card list?
I was because towards the end of at midnight with,
with Jordan and I were writing on at midnight.
I kind of got lucky where I became his regular writer when he came to visit.
And I was his writer again for the finale.
And he had me give him my mailing address and email address.
Matt Bronger has the same.
That was my old email, my old mailing address.
So I haven't gotten one again.
So there's somebody in your old department who's getting the Christmas card from wheel now and wondering why.
I don't know why.
I was paying for my.
forwarding thing for a while
that thing you do where it's just like
and I stopped paying for it so
it's like how much is a yearly
Weird Al Christmas card work?
I don't know but I think I still get the emails
but nicest man ever
I think it'll happen for you Matt
I think it will guys you guys
you guys both met him I never met him
although I didn't get on the Christmas card list
there's meeting him and then there's being on the
so you know well done
Weird Al has a favorite
of the three of us.
Boo.
Well, good luck to the steel drivers.
We're all rooting for you.
Fuck you to all those other bluegrass artists.
My dad will kill me if he ever.
I know that he's,
I don't think he's ever listened to this podcast.
I think my mom has,
but I am going to ask him
and I'm going to ask y'all if you're okay with that,
but I'm going to ask him if he would maybe do a brother
we're out though with us at some point.
Oh, that'd be fun.
Yeah, we'd love that.
Because that really,
is, like, the thing that brought bluegrass, like, kind of the attention.
That's how I first heard of Alison Krause.
Yeah, or Emmy Lou Harris or Julian Welch.
So, yeah, it was like, I don't think people knew what bluegrass was.
It was like, country music is like, you know, you just kind of think of them the same thing.
And then that movie came out, and people were like, oh, yeah, okay, this is, so it's a banjo.
Yeah, it's like, okay.
There's a whole other genre of country music that's not about tractors.
Yeah, there's no percussion.
It's about getting baptized.
Yeah.
Yep, exactly.
So, yeah, we'll see.
I don't know if you'd want to do it, but I, and we would have to tamper.
There'd be no fingering stories.
No, of course.
Unless we were talking.
Fingering a banjo.
Exactly.
We could maybe, we could fit one in there and then people won't.
We can fit one in there.
Oh, God.
Oh, boy.
I'm going to play this thing.
You can fit one or two.
Oh, my God.
Sorry, you did it to yourself.
Well, yes.
Good, good luck to Mike and the Steel Drivers.
And go check out the album, please.
Oh, yeah, it's called Outrun.
And all of their music.
Please check it all out.
All right.
Well, time to talk about the peanut butter solution.
I'm sorry, talk about the peanut butter solution.
I'm sorry, I mispronounce that.
Yes, I had never seen this movie.
I had known it's kind of a legendary, crazy movie that, like, people our age grew up watching.
But I never got wind of it.
Emily, had you seen this movie about it?
Oh, yeah.
This was one of those.
We had a Tower Records in Nashville.
So we had a blockbuster and everything,
but blockbusters tended to have like the most current cool stuff.
Right.
And there was a rental section for movies in Tower.
Oh, yeah.
And so I think that my parents-
It's where I rented Godzilla returns constantly.
Well, yeah.
So I guess my parents were in music stores more than they were in, you know, video stores.
So if my mom was there getting like a CD or something,
she would just grab a couple of movies from there.
And a lot of it was,
Shelly Duvall's Fairytale Theater.
We watched that a lot, a lot.
And then she saw this movie,
and I guess it was like recommended from another family.
Like you've got to show him this weird movie.
My kids loved it.
But really, it just became this myth-mythological thing
that every kid was like,
did your parents get you the peanut butter?
solution it i hate it like we were all just like it scared the shit out of us like did you know
did it read as crazy to you at the time like i wonder if you were eight and you were watching this
if you're like this is insane i thought it was scary i didn't think of it as insane i think that logic
didn't matter you know as a kid to me didn't matter to anyone making this movie i think you really
this movie has a logic all its own and you just have to go with it but it scared me a lot as a kid
especially as a very vain girl who cares about her hair a lot.
And a girl who wanted pubs more than anything.
Oh, God! I forgot about that part.
I can't wait to get to that.
I don't think you have to be particularly vain to be really fearful of the idea of waking up with absolutely no hair.
And especially the way it's played in this movie in which he has the very realistic reaction of bawling and crying on the couch.
And I was just like, what is this movie?
Like, they're not playing it as like a gag or anything.
They played it deadly serious.
And well, he played it deadly serious and no one else in the movie played anything serious.
That's right.
It was so wild.
It was two totally different movies from different acting style.
Two.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Two?
Try 12 or 13.
My God.
well yeah let's let's talk about it wait wait wait Matt did you see it no I had no idea what this was and the opening credits had me convinced oh it's a cartoon and then when it started and it was live action I was like pleasantly surprised that it was a live action you know kids movie I was like okay I can fuck with this and then very quickly I realized I was in some sort of fever dream and I wanted to escape but I felt like I was slowly drowning for yeah a lot of kids think that this is a dream and
that they had, that it wasn't real.
Yes, this is very...
And I thought that for a very long time.
There's a few movies that did that.
The kid gets killed in the house, and this is what he sees before he dies.
Yes.
I think this is one big metaphor for what happens when a mother leaves, and, like, everyone's lives go to shambles.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, so it starts out with a bunch of production company logos in French, and I'm like, ah, Canada.
And this is, and yeah, I mean, it'll be obvious from this first time one person speaks.
But yeah, you get a bunch of French up top.
This is Canadian.
It starts out with Michael and his sister.
They're two kids.
His sister is wearing their mom's robe and talking about how mom is gone.
It seems like maybe mom's dead for the first 20 minutes or so.
She is just in Australia, right?
In Australia, that's correct.
her dad's estate
her dad is dead
their grandfather is dead
and she has to sell the house in Australia
which you think is either
code for oh no
she died right
or you think it's an elaborate
plush that you're never going to
that they don't do anything with
nothing happens with that house yeah
it feels that like this is
a deadbeat divorcee dad from the get-go
but it's like is taking
your mom went to go sell a house in Australia
the human, female
version of sending a dog
to live upstate.
Oh, mom's on a farm.
On a farm.
If you've seen my neighbor
Totoro recently, they don't have a mom
in the house, but it's just like,
she's resting.
And then at the end, she comes back,
like basically exactly like this mom comes back.
He just goes, hi guys.
And then the credits roll.
Like mom has one line.
This is like the, who was the guy in Anaconda
who was just asleep for the whole movie?
Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was going to say this is like a reverse sixth sense where, you know, mom is alive the entire time.
Right. Yeah, because it was like they're so depressed that she's gone.
Like all of them have lost their fucking minds.
Little boy is not talking and not eating.
The little girl looks like she's become the mom.
Like she acts like she's a mom.
I don't think she goes to school the entire movie.
I don't know what the fuck.
At one point, she's on a computer.
It looks like she's filing taxes.
I was like, what is going on in this movie?
So, yeah, so she's show the, you know,
the sister's kind of playing mom.
Dad is just hanging out in the attic looking disheveled.
We learn later that he's a painter and he's working up there.
But for the first couple of scenes,
you just think he's squatting in his own house.
Or he's like a barbarian of his own house or something.
He's just like in a secret room.
He's the kid's prisoner.
Yeah.
What he's doing is he's,
an artist and he's painting up there um but yeah we see some shots of dad looking just like a disheveled
transient um he's from baby baby oh is he oh nice i didn't recognize anybody from this movie he's
colonel tie or something from babylon five the um yeah he's like he's been in a ton of stuff but i
did not recognize him he's one of those guys who i guess it's just been old his whole life yeah he
definitely seems a little little steve martinie in that way just always always about
Well, it was about 55.
I was weirded out about how much of a good actor I thought he was the entire movie.
I don't know if that's just a me thing, but I was just like, this guy's great.
Yeah, he, this movie is so, it's so strange.
And I mean, I think, you know, I mentioned David Lynch in the opening.
Something this movie also really remind me of is Tim Robbins and stuff.
It's like, I think you should leave and the chair company.
And obviously that stuff is very David Lynch inspired, right?
It's the crazy comedy version of David Lynch.
But the way they use, like, non-actors in this is so strange.
The guy who owns the paintbrush store just, like, haunts me, you know?
Yes.
It's all these just, like, local weirdos who seem like they've never acted before.
It's the world of this movie is totally insane.
And when you kind of realize that this isn't just like a Disney movie, you can just kind of let the nightmare envelop you.
But anyway.
So their friend, Connie, comes over.
Connie is a cool kid with a leather jacket and a fedora.
Now, there's a lot of bad headwear in this movie.
I think any time a fedora appears, that is the worst hat.
I'm going to argue with you here.
I think that...
You like the fedora.
I like it better.
Sorry.
Emily, he played the stage.
He's trigger-happy.
He's getting too excited.
I was sorry.
I just knew there was a little bit.
another hat. I have an itchy stinger
finger. Did you have a hat you liked less?
The wig. Fuck. Matthew.
I can't help it.
What is your middle name?
Lawrence.
Okay, never mind.
It's beautiful. It's a beautiful name.
Thank you.
Matthew Lawrence is your name?
Lawrence leave. Get down here.
And my brother, Joey Lawrence leave.
Oh my God.
The wigs.
The wigs are
They're insane
Like the big long wig
It's supposed to look crazy
But like the minute we see the kid in the beginning
That's a wig
And then every other thing
It's just like
It has to wear so many wigs
It looks
It's so many wigs
Bet Middler at a Vegas residency
Just so many wigs
Constant wig changes
Largest fucking green room ever
Covered in wigs
It's Rupal's drag race
Just like
I contend that the fedora is worse,
but we can agree to disagree on that.
All right, fair.
Connie wears a fedora and he loves grapes.
He's always eaten the family's grapes.
You know how every neighborhood had that kid that ate your grapes?
Well, then you have Urkel who's got any cheese.
Right.
Erkel love cheese and Connie loves grapes.
Connie walked so that Erkel could run towards cheese.
Yeah.
So the kids.
So the kids are obsessed with a spooky old house in their neighborhood, and apparently the old house caught fire, and the kids know that their work, and this is their words, a wino that lived there.
And they like, it's where the wino is sleeping all winter.
These kids just know where the local wino is in the whole time.
It's so weird.
It's so strange.
Like what an eight-year-old is obsessed with the labor and Wino?
It's one of the strangest things.
I was watching it going,
maybe they don't know what that word means or maybe.
Yeah, maybe they heard their parents say it.
Yeah.
Or maybe in Canada,
a Wino means something else.
But then they later show,
the first time I met that Wino,
he was begging outside of a bank.
I was like,
no,
I don't know
I don't know why
They keep track of where they are
It's where the whinoes are
Where the whino things are
Where the whino things are
Yes
Oh my God Jordan
I've never seen you laugh so hard
In my life
I know
For some reason
These kids can't speak into
Winos
Oh boy
Okay so another
I mean we can't sit here all
night just talking about the weird things
happen second to second in this movie.
But there's this thing that happens
where Connie
he's walking on the street
and he's like, there's aunts
and there's everyone's so Canadian. There's aunts
and they're talking about ants. And then
the little boy, Michael, I think is the main
boy. He's like, there's no aunts. He's like, there is
aunts and one of them sees ants
and one doesn't and it just moves
on and it never comes back. What the fuck
is that supposed to be?
There's so many moments.
There's so many moments in this where I just think, like, did they have a contractual obligation to hit 90 minutes?
Because there's a scene at one point where, like, he's like, can I call mom?
Yeah, that's like right at the moment.
I think when he gets his hair growing back finally or something.
And rather than cut to the next scene, he goes, what's Australia's country code?
Oh, it's one, one, two, six.
Oh, yeah.
And then they
We didn't need that
And I
It's so strange
I was honestly curious about it
And I was kind of glad he asked
For some reason
I just I don't know
I don't know why
They kept things in in this movie
To it like the effect it had
Was making you think that it was sort
Somehow either
Not so much grounded in reality
But in a way
Sort of artistic
Almost like a fly on the wall
type film you know um the other thing that it's not very david lynchian is because they explained
all of the dream logic every single thing and they would just say it as if it was well known like
you know if you close your eyes you can't hear a ghost right and you're like what look see and you'll
and yes and you'll go into the painting and you'll transfer the fright yes we'll transfer the fright yeah
that stuff is so...
There's a lot of exposition
like dumps that happen
that are mostly useless
and sometimes they have a good use
but very rarely.
There's aunts here.
There's no aunts.
There are aunts.
God, I don't know.
This is why it started to feel insane.
Every time anything like that happened,
I said it's okay, it's French-Canadian.
Right.
Just any...
I mean, this movie is like,
I know Google Translate was not around,
but it seems like this was written in French
and then Google translated nine different times
and that's the script they used.
It's so weird.
It might be true, I don't know.
So they go to school
where they have an evil painting teacher
who hates imagination.
He wants them to draw his dog.
He's got a dog.
Okay, and all the teachers in this talk like
the Animaniac Psychiatrist.
They're like,
Now draw the dog
Draw the dog's beautiful muscles
Look at the dog's musculature
Draw the dog
That is not a dog
That it's a pig
You must draw the dog's muscles
The guy is so fucking horny
For his dog
That he's making these kids draw
And he'll
He rips up their paintings
If they're not good enough
So I did watch a little documentary
About this movie
Oh okay
I need to watch one
So I guess that
You know the guy who created
I think it's Tales
for everyone is like the series of films.
Yeah, this is part of some sort of like
Twilight Zone for Kids Anthology in Texas.
Well, yeah, something, well, it's so weird.
I don't know, but it's the guy who wrote this
he like told, he made up stories for his kids.
So this is literally a bedtime story.
He made up for his kids.
Yeah, this is a real stream of consciousness.
It feels like it.
Yeah, totally.
But that family, it comes from like a line of Italian artists.
And so...
Signore.
Exactly.
So, and then there's like a thing in the movie where everyone who has that accent is somehow related to each other.
We find out towards the end.
So it's like the accents, I was like, why do, why does the doctor have an accent?
And then this guy has an accent and then an art dealer or somebody who's buying art.
Yeah, they're all brothers, apparently.
Yes, which what the fuck was that about?
Anyway, so, yes, that's supposed to be a, like, a tip of the hat to the family.
lineage, supposedly.
So there's like Easter eggs in here
that only one family would
fucking know. Like... I hate that
there's lore. I fucking hate that
there's lore. I know. I'm so sorry.
I just exist as a blip in my mind.
So dad
is, so dad's at home.
He's working on a painting.
The dad apparently sells his
paintings for $6,000. It's like
that fucking thing in
Pride and Prejudice where
everyone just knows how much Mr. Darcy
makes they're like dad sells his paintings for six thousand dollars and then an art dealer comes like
i'll give you six thousand dollars for that and it's a painting of like the kids playing tennis
and dad's got this wacko cartoon art style which does seem like he would be a famous painter in
the 80s it's like Keith herring or something yeah all of the art is like by one artist
is it that makes sense yeah um so yeah and the the guy who created uh tales for everyone like
owns that painting.
Okay.
Which is cool.
But yeah, it does kind of have
like a cartoony weird
and they're really big too.
Yeah, he makes his giant
psychotic looking paintings.
So while the dad
is turning down $6,000 for this painting
of tennis, the kids
go to the haunted house
and Michael climbs up in the window
through this like weird shoot
and he sees something
and he screams and his hair
stands on end
and then it all falls out later
but he passes out
Connie brings him home
in a wheelbarrow
a shopping cart, sorry, a shopping cart
he's unconscious
and they don't take him to a hospital
they just put a cloth on his head
and a thermometer in his mouth
Yep
Dad does not give a shit
I've never seen his dad so not worried
He spends most of this movie
when he's not painting
very strange paintings
he is telling his son
who is clearly going through hell
don't worry about it
everything will be fine he says that
most of the movie yeah and the son is kidnapped
for two weeks
yes the son is gone
who knows
what's happening to his fucking
eight year old son the dad doesn't
care
um
so strange
could you imagine this mom just being oblivious
like I mean I've never
left my kids home alone with my husband
before but
how bad could it say
How bad could it possibly be?
A lovely time in Australia.
Fucking nice surfing instructor.
So they take him to a doctor who is, we learn as the brother of the fucking evil painting teacher.
It doesn't, nothing, it doesn't matter.
But he also talks like this.
He's like, you have the harem, scare him.
You have the harem scaram, where you get scared and your hair falls out.
And the kid's like, he's loony, which is like a little kid insult.
but I think in Canada, it's like calling someone a cunt.
It's like as bad.
You're a loony, eh?
Wait.
Sorry to say it, but you're a loony.
Jordan, wait, you guys are your cat dads.
Yes.
How did you feel about them being angry?
Because they blame his hair falling out on the family cat,
like sleeping on his head, which is all I ever want.
I want a cat to sleep on my head.
And they like throw the cat.
I hate that cat.
The dad was like, I hate that cat.
Yeah, they have no reason to hate that cat.
The cat was worried about him.
Again, this was like, this is a French thing.
Just in the same way that like, if you ask an Italian about cats, they'll be like,
don't leave a cat alone in a room with a baby.
It'll suck the breath right out of them.
It's like that maybe they have some weird thing, you know, in French can in Montreal
where they're like, oh, you know, cats are always stealing the hair off of your child's head or something.
I was like, okay, fine.
Canadian witch legend.
It took me far too long to just decide,
okay, this movie exists in a completely insane reality
and I just have to accept it.
Yeah, exactly.
Also, like, I would think that if French people were an animal,
it would be a cat.
So I don't know.
Yeah, you'd figure.
It's weird.
I want a Frenchman to sleep on my head.
Yeah.
I want a Frenchman to make biscuits on my tummy.
Wee, we.
Those Frenchmen, they always, they wind
for food, even though you just fed them.
You just ate.
I need more wine. Give you more wine,
Mama.
Mama.
It is 6.30 a.m.,
but I need you to pour more wine in my bowl.
There's already wine in there.
Anyway,
so they
glue a wig to his head,
and he goes to the soccer game
because he thinks it's fine, but a mean
kid at the soccer game pulls off the wig
and they like run around
And all the kids run around, like, taunting him.
And they have a bald chant ready that they all know.
It's like, baldy, baldie, has no hair.
Don't call your mom.
She doesn't care.
Baldy, like, why do you know, why do you, why are you practicing a bald chant?
And how do you know about his situation with his mother?
It's insane.
Yeah.
So they chase him around doing this bald chant.
They'll be great.
protesters later in life.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
Yeah, if we can just channel that hatred of the bald.
Yeah, into something good.
You know, Black Lives Matter or something.
I have a lot of anxiety at the, you know,
I went to the No Kings protests,
and I'm the person that will keep going
even though people have stopped the chanting.
Oh, no, that's good.
That's a good thing to be.
But then I'm by myself, and then I just, oh, no, oh, yeah.
But you just went to make fun of bald people, right?
Yeah.
Salty baldy two by four
Tick it through the ocean door
Health care for all
Alester balls
It's like I get
I bet kids were probably meaner in the 80s
But like in a non-cartoon world
That kid probably has leukemia
Right exactly
Wouldn't you immediately assume
Oh no
He's he's dying
Like the idea that everyone
Just immediately burst into laugh
And the fact that when he wakes up with no hair, his dad could not give less of a fuck.
It's like all of this.
I'm like, is he dying of cancer?
Because he went into a burning, it was a house that had just burnt down and killed the winos.
Killed the winos burned to death.
Winoes burned.
And so I was like maybe, but no, that's not how cancer works.
You don't get bald from the cancer.
You get bald from the chemo.
Well, there is that condition that like.
Alopecia.
Alopecia.
Yeah, yeah.
I was like, maybe this is a movie about that.
At this point, I was like, okay, so it's, I guess a movie about alopecia and about kind of like, I don't know.
This is the prequel to powder?
Yeah, I don't know.
I was like, what is this movie about?
At this point, I'm still not fully given up on the idea that it's about something.
Sure.
Yeah, I feel so bad for you guys.
Yes, that's a good way to go insane.
So he's, so okay.
So then the
The ghost of the
The ghost of the Wino
I'm just like talking about it makes me feel
I want to punch myself
So the ghost
The ghost of the Wino
And the Wino's
Who
Who we have not
heard about
She never met
Jordan's face is so red
So the ghost
Of the Wino
comes to it
I can't even describe the movie.
Okay.
And says that if you want to get your hair back, there's a recipe.
You have to have really ripe bananas and flies.
Wait, he's got a girlfriend.
He does have a girlfriend.
Yeah, it's a wino and his girlfriend.
Yes, who is sometimes very nice and sometimes very mean.
And they're ghosts.
They admit that they're ghosts.
Yes.
And they both died in the fire together, which is kind of like, I don't know.
Kind of beautiful.
It's kind of romantic.
It's kind of like the notebook in many ways.
Yeah.
They had their own little...
Roe Weino and Juliet.
Yes, sure.
Yeah.
To be clear, the reason that this ghost is doing this
is because at the very beginning of the movie,
he saw the Wino in front of the bank
and he gave him every dollar he had,
which was a few cents in his pocket.
Oh, that's right.
Okay.
So there is, it does...
There was a logic.
At this point, there was a logic.
And I was like,
there's something going on in this movie
that I can follow.
But then the ghosts are stealing all their...
groceries and like i don't know what because there's still there's still
winos even in the afterlife
the afterlife is bleak
the ghost get drunk on wine
they were stealing cereal they like
weren't even taking the water well it's to sell it so they could buy more wine
yeah i mean
they were just stripping the copper piping off the side of the house
our vCR's god the ghost stole it
sorry the wino you know the winos are burned and death
Ghost God
Okay, so they give him this recipe
And I guess the recipe includes peanut butter
Which is where we get the title
The peanut butter
Skippy paid or no they
Yeah, Skippy paid to have their peanut butter
To have their logo removed from the film
This is a big deal movie
Honestly, apparently it was like
It's a big deal
Yeah, I mean I
I'll never forget it
Remember it always
And I will probably think, yeah
I'll see Skippy.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I can rub that on my head or poops.
I'll remember it always.
In the same way, I'll always remember putting down my dog, you know.
I'm never getting out of this mind.
This will be the thing you guys think of before you die.
I have to feel like, this will be that you're like, oh, man, I'm going to have to steal cereal.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Well, I'll find a kid to haunt, a bald kid.
I'm on my deathbed, thinking about my wonderful, beautiful child.
And right before I die, I'm going to be a kid.
like, did he need to give Australia's country code
before the cuts?
Then I'll die.
And why did the kid's pubs stop growing?
Why did they stop?
Because he yelled at them?
What?
Yeah, I don't know.
He's got to yell at those pubes.
Well, so yeah, we're to the pub.
We've been teasing the pubs.
Yeah.
So the kid, Michael, he rubs the gunk on his hair.
It starts his hair growing like crazy.
But then Connie is like,
I want to have some down there.
And we see him take.
the mixture into the bathroom and we
kind of know he's going to rub it on his pubs
he says as much. He does? He says. Yeah. He's like
well so you know
the kid the main character
goes what do you need it for? You already have hair and he goes
no but and then there's a pause and he goes
down there and then let a boy do
get pubes no I yes I was
incredibly excited. Okay you were excited
I was not no
I remember when I got my first
my first one I was so excited
You got one at a time
One at a time
Now I'm up to 15
I feel like mine came in the way that my chin
hairs are coming in
It's like the fuzz is slowly
Turning a different color
Man that fuzz sure is getting thick
Listen I had to
I got my makeup done
Not too long ago
And this lady just goes
You know they have those little
comb raisers. And I was like, what? She goes, you could probably
because I guess my peach budges is getting a little thick. I don't know. Getting a little wily.
Yeah, I guess. So the kids, his hair is just growing. He goes to school and just every time
they shoot him, he's in a longer wig. The amount of wigs and this is so crazy. The kids are like
playing with his hair at school and it's like distracting everyone. And then Connie's pubes are
growing out of his pants.
Yes.
We can see his pubs coming out
through his pant legs.
This child.
And they like have a mind of their own.
They're like, you know, I don't know,
like arms almost.
It's really wild.
Also, there's a scene that you're talking about right here
where his hair keeps growing at school
in which he explains exactly what's going on
with the past maybe 30 minutes of the movie.
which I feel like would have been so nice
that the movie had started right here.
It's the scene in which he's about to be kicked out of class
and he demands an education.
I just, I played that, I got that clip
and I just want to play it for everyone.
For two weeks now, I've been bald.
We did everything to get my hair back.
Nothing worked.
At last, I tried this extremely dangerous mixture.
At last.
At last.
I love at last.
It's like he's writing an essay.
This is just someone's really tortured logline.
Yeah.
Mixed.
It worked, but now my hair won't stop.
My only chance is for this guy to keep on cutting.
Please let me stay.
I want to be educated.
The kids clap.
This guy is his friend Connie, who's been with us the entire movie.
This guy is.
to keep on cutting.
He's in the class.
You could say his name.
Yeah.
Like he's your like haircutting servant?
This guy.
He's the second lead.
Yeah.
Honestly, he feels like the first lead in a lot of ways.
Yes, it's Connie's movie.
In many.
Connie's the hero.
Connie like saves the day.
Fadora or no, he is a hero.
So he like runs out of class.
In the wind, it's really windy.
And the hair, like the wind is blowing his crazy.
long wig. He lays down on the ground and has a dream about dogs attacking him. And then we see
a figure loom over him. And then we get the spinning newspaper talking about how kids in the
neighborhood are being kidnapped. And then we see dad going insane. And this is the only time
the dad seems to react emotionally to what's happening. The dad's like going insane, painting bald
kids in his studio.
So I guess the dad has this long dark night of the soul
and then it's just fine with it.
I would have liked it
if he had the big painting in the police station.
And he's like, this is the kid.
But imagine him with hair now.
With hair.
But hair that just keeps growing and growing.
He's painting the hair on top of the painting.
Unless this guy's cutting it.
So Connie and
Connie and the sister
don't care about
finding Michael, but they want to cheer
up dad, so they go to an art store
to buy him a new paintbrush, and
there's this special paintbrush
that costs $20,
and the guy in the paint
brush store is this insane non-actor,
I guess. I think he's the
tallest person in the movie.
Oh.
Tallest guy.
And says he doesn't know the name of
who's been delivering the paint brushes,
but they do it in a red truck.
So does he just give them the paintbrushes?
What does that mean?
Yeah.
Please take my paint brushes.
How do you run your business, sir?
Yeah.
It's got to be in voices for this stuff.
It's a cash business getting.
You get high pay cash with the paint brushes.
Also, it's probably the worst paint brush I've ever seen.
Like, it is so floppy and weird and unwieldy, but it does look soft.
It looks like it's really a French tickler kind of thing.
Sure, yes.
Yes, it looks like it would.
French Canadian tickler.
French Canadian tickler.
Thank you very much.
They have to tickle in both languages.
And so, okay, so they find this red van.
Connie gets in and leaves a sugar trail.
And then the sister, because it's a movie in the 80s,
kids got to jump on their bike and go do some bike racing.
So she races after the van and this fucking awesome song starts playing.
Matt, can we play a little bit of this song?
And it's the first music cue that's been in the whole movie.
It's about a magic music.
man.
The singer, this song, Selim Dion.
Yep.
This movie has something in common with Titanic.
And both that they're too long.
But I think this is her first soundtrack, like, that she's done for a movie.
And she is a famous French-Canadian singer.
But at this point, she was still pretty new, and she was still learning English.
Yeah, and she's very much doing her Kate Bush thing here.
which is like it's it's really good and you know
hearing this song in this movie there was a little bit of like
I don't know a stranger things type
like it's possible that Stranger Things has seen
that the Duffer brothers have seen this movie and were kind of
just because the voice that she was doing is very Kate Bushy
and you know the age of the kids and whatnot but yeah
it is the one part of this movie where I like for a
second I felt like I wasn't having a stroke.
And I was like, okay, good.
A music montage, just like normal.
We're all having a normal day now.
Thank God.
I needed it.
Yeah, a real normal day.
Follow the sugar trail.
So we're about to get to the third act of this movie,
which is crazier than anything that's happened in the movie so far.
We're going to talk about it when we come back.
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We're talking about the peanut butter solution.
Okay.
Wait, wait.
Say that again.
The peanut butter solution?
Paynet.
Say peanut.
The penis butter solution.
Oh, no, Jordan.
Say peanut again.
Peanut.
Am I saying it weird?
You said peanut.
Peanut.
I don't have time to say peanut.
I got to say peanut.
Yeah.
Maybe it's just, you know, like an O-C thing.
Okay, a peanut butter solution.
Yeah, it's the bass player for 3-11.
Peanut.
My favorite bass player.
Wow.
My dad is a bass player.
How dare you?
Listen, your dad's wonderful.
He's not your favorite.
We wish to look at the grannies, but he's no peanut.
3-11.
That's right.
No, your dad beats peanut any day, any day in the week.
Oh, God, don't say beats and peanuts.
Yeah, he beats a penis.
I'm so glad he doesn't listen to this podcast.
Oh, boy.
So, okay, here's what happened.
The art teacher, the evil art teacher, who was fired,
kidnapped Michael, has him in a stasis chamber of some sort where he's being,
he's in a coma because of magical ice cream
yogurt it's yogurt
yogurt excuse me this is Canada they don't have
like good stuff everyone has yogurt for dessert
yeah but a lot of people eating yoplay is in this
I notice yeah
um yo play a
oh speaking of yoplay
do you guys remember yoplay whips and yoplay custard
yeah you don't throw those in the freezer
you're having a good time oh my god do they still have those
I don't know I haven't I haven't checked
I'm going to, I need, the Yoplai whips was like just the craziest invention ever and the custard was so decadent.
I don't know why.
I just got really hungry.
Sorry, you guys.
Delicious.
This movie makes me feel stoned and I'm not stoned.
It would put me into a hair coma.
So you could shit your pants and grow your hair.
Shit your pants, grow your hair so that he has an army of kidnapped children in karate outfits.
Yeah.
Using Michael's hair to make magic paint brushes.
And he uses the paint brush to paint these, like, kind of semi-animated paintings.
Now, here's why I think this is a good movie about AI.
Because we have Michael's dad who is doing these weird imperfect paintings.
That's right.
But they are from the heart.
They are...
Using his imagination.
Using his imagination.
We have a teacher that hates imagination.
He just wants efficiency.
He just wants profit
So I think this movie predicted A-I
What is this a dang documentary?
Oh
Idiocracy is a documentary
Yeah
Have you guys seen this black mirror?
Oh my God
Watch those and I'm like
This is a dang documentary
I haven't heard about it
What is it?
I think it's a dang documentary
It's more like a mirror into my life
Yep
Anyway
So
Connie
Connie tricks the art teacher
by saying you're my dad
which the art teacher wants to hear
so he
does this little jig for the kids and paints
the haunted house where Michael got
scared he's like paint the fright
paint Michael's fright
and then the art teacher
goes into the magic painting
and then he gets the fright
and comes out
and now his hair grows
but also that wasn't what made Michael's hair
falls out his hair falls out
and then he looks like
what's his face from Breaking Bad
he does he looks a little Walter Whitey
when he gets the
he gets the fright he's I am the one who
knocks and then steals your hair
I am the one who paints
I'm the one who paints
I'm the one who knocks
I am the one who knocks
I am the one who knocks
So then Michael
Ding dong
Um
Anyway
So
Breaking Bad
That's a good show
Yeah
Anyway
So then Michael goes into the painting
He faces his fear
The thing that scared him
Was the whinoes
So he faces his fear
And then
They
guy he's bald now chases them around for a long time the adult he does they does chase him a
long time this is very scary i could see if you were a kid watching this like yes like dark weird
molester coated guy chasing you around a factory where he had you enslaved yeah yeah at least
miss hanagan put some lipstick on or something you know like doll yourself up i mean any other story
where you have a crazy molester guy chasing after children you at least have i don't know some
sort of narrative that you could like cling to where you could go oh this person's chasing me
for whatever reason in this case would be like okay i have to start from the beginning so there
were these winos who died in a fire and this guy his name is signor and he paints and a long
story short my hair kept growing and he's harvesting it can you save me like none of this makes
any sense
I gotta tell you
as somebody who runs a small business by myself
the fact that he needed so many kids
to just put hair into a stick
makes me go
I could kidnap some kids
yeah I could do like this would be very helpful
I just need I just need someone to stuff
envelopes like honestly
while you yeah well you sleep in a hammock
they all sleep in hammocks they all sleep in hammocks
did you guys do that as kids ever did you try to sleep in a hammock
no I never have I would like to I
love sitting in a hammock we never had two trees close together which i thought was a prerequisite
they were too close or too far apart yeah i was like well this doesn't work we had like well the thing
is my uh neighborhood kids it was like a constant prank that if someone was in a hammock you would
run and flip the hammock over so they'd fall good prank out of the hammock so you could you couldn't
sleep in a hammock i'd be too anxious well now i'm glad i'd never slept in a hammock so
all the adults rush in at the end
dad's doing like karate chop hands
and then they
arrest the guy and then
mom randomly comes back
in a taxi
and that's at another Celine Dion song plays
and that's the end of the movie.
I have that Celine Dion song too.
Let's hear a little bit of it.
Let's hear a little bit of it before we do that.
Children are like boats in the sea.
Austin Torre.
and break
every stroke you roll
I look at a turkey
looking at that song
I'm just
this is so haunting and sad
yeah especially
like in the background
before the credits are rolling
it's just a you know
external shot of their house
and that house to me creeps me
everything about this movie is fucking creepy
everything about this movie is unsettling
uncanny valley
and like set me on edge
throughout I'm really worried about the whino ghost like I think maybe this was their
unfinished business maybe they got the guy caught and they can kind of move on to the next
oh so they set this whole thing in motion they scared the kid in order for the hair to
grow and then for the guy to like kidnap them did signore burn the house down with
them in it oh I guess we never know who burned the house down maybe it was
signore you guys that makes the movie make a little bit of sense
Some sense
Like a tiny little bit of said
Now this is very David Litchie
Because that that means that signore is Bob
Oh yeah
Oh shit
Okay
So that's that's the peanut butter solution
Peanuts
What is peanut?
He's doing a
He's doing this on purpose to piss me off
I'm not
I'm not that's how I say peanut butter
I'm not
I'm not doing a bit
I'm not goofing
Just peanut
Peanet
Peanot butter
Peanut butter
Peanut butter
Anyway
Hey
We're going to rank the movie
But first you know we got to do the Hunk Watch
Oh
It's Hunk Watch
I feel like I know where this is going
But just as a formality
I'll ask everybody
Emily what are your thoughts
Okay so yes the dad is cute
But I watched
That little documentary
and it showed like the kids all grown up and Michael pretty hot grown up and I have
his hair it's good he had it like slick back in a ponytail and it was like okay he's got a lot
of hair and he was cute so I think adult Michael is doing it for me
Matt any thoughts I honestly was not it's like I now have to think about it in retrospect
because throughout the movie
there was no point where I said
I'm watching this for free with ads
and I need to come up with a
senior freak, come on
I now it's like if I have to
because I don't want to give it a senior
because I don't like him
I think he's bad
he's clearly bad man
I guess I'm giving it to
Dr. Epstein
His name is Dr. Epstein
His name is Dr. Epstein
Did you guys not notice?
The hotel's sick boy she has to
hear him scare him
His name was Dr. Epstein.
He should release his files.
Just release.
I did not release my files.
I do not know why you want to see my files so bad.
If you just travel to party island periodically.
Dr. Epstein didn't kill himself.
The hair of scaram thing reminds me of a, I think we need a new sting eventually,
but it's a Fleming joke and, like, family joke.
Because we have a lot of them.
But my mom was talking about she had a friend who died her hair red,
and it was, like, bad.
It was really bad.
And her and her other friends called her
Harlot Oskara.
Oh, I like sad.
Oh, that's a fun.
That's fun.
Slamming joke.
Yeah.
Also kind of a sick burn in a way.
Yeah, it is.
Jordan, who is yours?
Yeah, I'm going to give it to the dad.
I kind of thought that's where we were going,
but apparently everybody had some different hunks,
and that's great.
We like a variety of hunks.
Yeah, I think Dad's great.
Wonderful sweaters, a nice Canadian man.
And I think they really, like, decorated
the house in this.
Yes.
You could tell it's like the house
of an artsy parent because they clearly
have taste, but it's a fucking mess.
Yes. And I kind of like that
about like kind of lifey artist adults.
They have these like all this cool stuff
but it's like such a wreck.
Oh yeah. I mean if you could see my apartment right now
I would look insane. But like
I had friends who had parents like this
and I just like being like this is
so cool and it always smelled like hair.
Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah. And also that little
cot that he had up in his artist
attic loft thing
had like he lived there
but he had the most beautiful like
sheets and blanket it was like a pendleton
blanket type thing it was like really cool so I think
that's it's going to go in my bedroom list
as a favorite bedroom okay
is the artist loft up there because
I've always dreamed of having an artist
loft which God I'm going to move so soon you guys it's going to happen
I swear to God get that loft
get that love girl get that get that parent
visit. Get mom to come, help you move to aloft.
Okay. Well, yeah, let's rank the peanut butter solution when we come back.
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Okay.
The peanut butter solution, one to ten.
how do you rank this?
I genuinely don't know.
It's the most difficult one we've ever done.
Emily,
it's the one who's seen this the most.
What do you think?
I feel like it needs its own score system.
Yeah.
I know.
Like how many,
one to ten pubs?
Long child pews.
Oh yeah, did we mention that that kid just yelled at the hair
and it stopped but that we couldn't get the,
he couldn't tell his friend you got to yell with conviction at your hair.
Oh my God.
Anyway.
I feel like it should have its own scoring somewhere.
But, I mean, I'm glad I watched it again.
It's fun to rewatch and remember how horrifying it is.
I'm glad this movie exists.
I'm going to give it a five.
Okay.
No, very reasonable.
Matt, what do you think?
Gosh, not only does it need a new scoring?
I mean, I truly am like, it's in some.
aspects of 10 and some aspects of one.
Yes.
And also, I think it doesn't deserve a number.
Also, is it a movie?
Right.
I don't even know.
Yeah.
It might not be.
What if there's a wash?
There's like a scoring system that it's, it can't be a 10, it can't be a zero.
It is just a peanut butter solution.
It's like alpha and the omega.
It's like, it's everything and nothing at the same time.
It's a wonderful, wonderful.
I'm going to give it a Zen.
A Zen.
I think I will give this like a bad movie seven.
I think it's really fun to watch.
I think for this flavor, if this is something you're into, the like kind of wacko, like the wacko fever dream kids movie, Teen Witch is still the goat.
Yes.
I think that you can't, you know, if you're having like bad movie night and you want to do something like this, Teen Witch, much more fun to watch.
But this is its.
own
cookey little thing.
It's its own genre.
It is.
So yeah, if you're like a,
you know,
if you're like a bad movie head,
if you're a sicko for this stuff,
I think you should watch this.
Yeah.
I don't know if a kid would actually like it.
Yeah,
I think that'd be scared of it.
Kids liked it,
but it's like,
you can't,
you can't,
you can't, like,
turn your brain off,
but you should.
Like,
it's like for your own safety,
you should find a way.
But you can't.
You overthink the whole movie.
It's a little bit stressful
and exhausting
all right
that's the peanut butter
solution we solved it
yeah
plugs anybody anybody anything
Emily I'm gonna say
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that's right the one to vote for
that's right
Matt you got anything
you know because
I feel like
I'm going to
get back into therapy
for no reason in particular.
I want to plug our
merch store.
Maxfundstore.com slash merch.
To this movie put you back
to therapy?
Honestly, after this movie,
I was just like,
I think I need to talk
with someone about this.
What's my life?
Yeah.
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