Free With Ads - The Ring

Episode Date: October 21, 2025

The spooky season gets a whole lot spookier with this week's episode where we watched the legitimately terrifying horror film The Ring, about a little girl who lives in a well.Tune in next week when our movie will be... Ernest Scared Stupid.-----Watch Emily, Matt, and Jordan on Good Mythical Weekend! Watch "Emily Have You Seen This?" on the Mythical SocietyOn Oct 22 you can get a copy of Jordan Morris's comic book Predator: Black White and Blood #4! Jordan will be signing the book Sat Oct 25th from 4-6pm at Things From Another World at Universal Citywalk.On Nov 8th, Jordan will be at the Burbank Book Festival, at the Buena Vista Branch Library from 10am-11am.And later that same day, Nov 8th, Jordan will be at Revenge Of Comics and Pinball for their Comic Creator Parking Lot Party.

This is free with ads. podcast that asked the question, why pay $100 a night to stay in a cabin where you'll find a haunted videotape when you can go online for free and watch a movie about a haunted videotape that will terrify you with bizarre images like dead animals and the low-rise jeans of the early aughts? I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is The Ring, a movie that harkens back to a simpler time when people would entertain themselves by playing random unlabeled videotapes. With us, as always, is the super-producer the He Freak, Matt Lieb, hitting us with those cryptic drops. Seven days.

Oh, man. I can't believe you did that one. Yeah, yeah. It took a lot of audio editing to get that to be audible to anybody. I know, it's so subtle. Did you guys, when I saw this the first time, somebody's cell phone went off in the theater. Oh, no. Nice.

Terrifying. That should have been a viral marketing thing for when that, like, as soon as the movie ended, they should have played cell phones. Yeah. Anyway, we will talk about this movie, The Ring, which is, as of this recording, streaming free with ads, we're going to talk about something else we saw for free on the internet this week. Guys, I was browsing around Cameo this week. Cameo, the website where you go to buy personal messages from...

I'm on there. Oh, yeah? Yeah. There you go. I'm on there, too. You are? Are you both on Cameo? Well, I was.

Why are you on there, Jordan? Don't want to do it. Oh, okay. Oh, wow. That's actually really... I don't want to. Would rather die. Honestly, it is a little stressful because I'm always worried that I'm not going to give

them what they want. But you do your best. What sorts of cameos have you done? I've just done with birthdays, anniversaries. There's been an occasional weird one. One was a guy who wanted me to fake faint a lot. I think we've heard about that one on the show. And I did it.

No problem. He requested me to do it again. And I went, you know, I don't think I want to do it again. and he went I totally get it and he was fine with it but most of the time it's just stuff like that

but people will say like kind of tell her she's the best something and then they'll give an like an alliteration for something and I won't know

what it is and I'll try to look it up and the only thing will be some military like creepy lingo but I'll do it anyway and go I looked it up this seems bad

so it's If it's bad, fuck that, but also happy birthday. There was something about, like, prisoners of war. Okay. Like, there was some, like, you know, is it alliteration? What is it when it's letters? An initialism. When it's, like, letters that stand for.

Acronym. Acronym. Okay. There was an acronym that it was, like, prisoners of, like, something like that. And I went, if it's that, I don't think you're the best employee of that, but also, like, whatever happened to happy anniversary. Happy anniversary, God damn it. But, you know, you do your best and try to give good advice and try to be nice.

But it is a little stressful that you might say the wrong thing. Oh, nice. Matt, you're on here, too. What have you had to do on Cameo? It was mostly for people who listened to my other podcast, the Frotcast. And it was just people would ask me, because I told them years ago that I do pretty much anything for $40. And so. With the fees taken out.

Well, right. I mean, listen, I told them about the fees. I was like, guys, it's got to be like 45. And so it was mostly people just wanting me to repeat bits from another podcast. Yeah. And it was fun for a little bit. But then I kind of felt weird about it because it was too parasocials. They're like, can you talk about booking the fish to my friend Greg? And I was like, I have to explain that I fucked a big mouth Billy Bass to some guy. Why? He won't like it. Yeah, well, that's, you should have another price point for stuff like that, but they don't really give you access to that in the app. I think they should. I'm looking at both of your pages here. Oh, no, oh, no. Lebe five stars, Emily Fleming, 4.94 stars. I think it's because you've done more than I have.

And also, you denied that one guy's faint request. Yeah, well, there was one lady who gave me a lower rating because my video wasn't long enough to her, like, liking. she was like it was barely over a minute and I was like oh I guess I did everything you asked me to do but you wanted it to be longer like talk slower

I guess happy birthday the funny thing is like she had requested me to put my face on a glass table and like put the phone under the glass table and for me to like blow raspberries

into it but I didn't do it long enough so she gave me a lower rating And so then I did another one that was longer to try to appease her but I still guess I got a lower rating in a room. That is crazy. That's like a, it's close to a glass bottom boat

but it's not quite. Yeah, but I... You guys know what I'm talking about? Glass bottom boat, they make the rocking world go around. Somebody shits on a glass table. That's right. Okay. Oh, okay.

I mean, they do make the rock and roll. Different than a hot carl, which of course is a saran wrap over the face. Different than a Cleveland steamer, which is on the chest. The world of sexuality and poop is beautiful. I just got out of dog sitting, the amount of poop I've been picking up. Oh, yeah.

And I don't mind the poop thing, but I always take a walk-and-drink with me. So I got a little beverage, and then I'll hold the poop on one finger because you, like, tie the thing up, and you put your finger through the thing, and then I'll put the drink to my lip and realize, oh, I got a bag of shit in this hand.

Just right there. Wild. Thin, thin line between you and the shit. That's how much I like the booze. As I was saying, I was on cameo. I thought to my, I was on. Just like browsing the way For the purpose of me setting up this bit.

I had an idea for a bit and I'm setting it up by saying I was browsing around cameo. Okay, sorry, we've meandered. Not a problem. So I was browsing around on cameo. I had the thought. I wonder if the people from the movies

we've watched are on cameo. And so I put together a little quiz called the Cameo Quiz. Matt, play the theme music. It's the Camptuio Quiz. Yeah. Yeah. That is fine, right?

Glad we went back and did that. Oh, yeah. It was worth it. So, okay, I'm going to give you two people that we have watched movies featuring, and you tell me who is charging more on cameo. Okay, this is a great quiz. Thank you. Emily, we'll go Emily, Matt, Emily, Matt, and there's a tiebreaker.

Okay. Emily, this is the 90s Hunks edition. Okay. Who is charging more on cameo? Ian Ziering from Shark Nato or James Marster's Spike Frick. from Buffy. James Marsters. You're locking in that answer?

I am. Well, because as someone who's on cameo, he's always in the top ten. Okay. He is a cameo king. Maybe he's less because that's like why he just does so many. But I'm, and maybe I and Zering charges more because he does less. Yeah, it's supply and demand. God damn it, this is hard, but I'm going, I'm going James Marsters for the way.

And I think there's a logic there. Like, is there a more intense hive than the Buffy vibe? Not many. Here's what it, like last year when I started doing cameo around Christmas, I was number 35 on cameo because I was doing so many. And then you blew those short-ass raspberries and everybody's like, get out of here. Exactly. Well, I also just, you know, when you're first on it, I'm sure that you're in high demand,

but it was like, it was the holidays and I was just doing so many and it was like I was at 35, but I was always like, who's at the top? It was Marsters. Marsters, and then... It's like Kevin from the office, right? Was the Cameo King for a while? Maybe. There's like a couple other people that I've never heard of. Ada Totoro. She was huge.

She played Janice Soprano on the Suprono. Oh. Yeah, she was like up there. Yeah. Well, Emily. Yeah. James Marsters on Cameo, $60. Not bad. Ian Zering on Cameo. Oh, God. $200. Fuck him.

Like, Marsters, you need to up your price. You deserve it. You're worth it. You're an iconic vampire. Also, I'm 40 and I feel bad now that I'm, I'm 40 dollars because he's only 60. I kind of make sense, though, because you really are limiting your options if you do a $200 one. But then you're doing, it is a lot of work. I'm going to just say it's a lot of work because you want, because they can also post these to their TikToks.

Right. And people have. People have taken the ones I've sent them and then posted them so then everyone can see what I posted. I think there's a way to privatize them, but I don't want to do that. I want to be like somebody that anything I say

is okay and I want you to be able to post it, but if you've got 20 to do in one day, you're bound to make a mistake. I'll give you $60. Okay, so the score is zero to zero. Okay. Damn. This is a good game because I bet you research that he was at the top.

This is the Daddy Edition. Okay. Peter Fancinelli This is one of the This is one of the evil vampires from Twilight Okay And Lou Diamond Phillips Who we watched in Bats

Oh, you don't even have to say What he's from? We all know Lou Dimeon is one of the most famous Is he alive though? He's alive Oh, still alive And looking great He's all over CBS I'm sure

Uh huh Amen Making our mom's horny Yep It's got to be Lou Diamond Phillips I mean he's just, I mean, he's famous. But is he on cameo at all?

Everyone here is someone I saw on cameo. Okay, okay. I'm locking in Lou Diamond Phillips. Lou Diamond Phillips, $175. Nice. Peter Fancinelli, $189. Whoa! The Twilight people, the Twilight people are fucking serious.

That one fandom propels him above Lou Diamond Phillips who has this crazy career. He's got a brilliant oeuvre. He does. You know, he did La Bamba. He did bats. Bats. Need we go on.

Yeah, need we can we go on. We don't need to. Emily, this next one's for you. This is the voice actor. Okay, okay. Charles Fleischer, who is the voice of Roger Rabbit, or Richard Horwitz, the voice of Alpha Five from Power Rangers. Oh, wow.

I, y, aye, y, was his catchphrase. I'm going to go with alpha. I'm going to go with that one as more expensive. Oh, God, this is... You want to talk it out? It seems like it's a difficult decision. Okay, well, I think about it in terms of... Oh, God.

That... Like, people who use cameo, I would think, is of a younger generation, right? Which also, I think millennials have watched Roger Rabbit. We all know it. Sure. A little more of a JetX thing, I think. I sometimes think the niche things... No?

I don't know. Are you locking it? The last one is so hard. I'm going to go with Alpha. I'm going to go with Alpha. Richard Horwitz, Alpha 5, $140. Okay. Charles Fleischer, the voice of Roger Rabbit, $100.

Yes, I got one. The thing about Richard Horwitz, so many iconic characters. Really? He's not only at the Power Ranger Weirdos. He was Invader Zim. Oh, I didn't know that. He was Billy from Billy and Mandy. Look at this.

He's an angry beaver. He's one of the Angry Beaver. Yeah, so I think that I mean obviously the Power Rangers people are so intense But I think those other fandoms drive up his price a little bit more That makes me really happy that people will pay for that Because they deserve to be paid for that And both of those guys are so funny

Yeah, both brilliant voice actors Okay Matt this is your category is Minor Character in a 90s cult hit Oh, okay This is Bo Jesse Christopher He played LBJ and Point Break I'm sorry, LBJ The guy who wore the LBJ mask

Yeah, yeah, okay And then Did he die in the bank? I believe he did he? Was he the guy who gets shot in the bank? It might be. Okay. And Rina Rifle, the minor character,

Penny Slot from Showgirls. Oh my God. She's actually the star of Showgirls 2, which exists. What? There's a second one? I guess so. Oh, we're going to have to do it. With Penny Slot.

Penny Slot. She's just one of the girls who works at the Cheetah. and that's her real name that's not the character's name Penny Slot is the character's name and Rina Rifle is the actor's name I don't know if it's hard to switch those too because those are both cool names

I gotta say showgirls too because I feel like the first person you said I mean I've already forgotten whether they played LBJ and fucking I just can't I can't see it I can't see it it's got to be

Penny Slot a.k.a. Rina Rifle Rina Rifle, penny slot, $75. Bo Jesse Christopher, $50. You're right. It's one to one. It all comes down to the tiebreaker question. Say your name to buzz in.

Who is charging more? This is the beautiful voice category. Oh, we have the buzz in about it? Yeah, but you got to say your name to buzz. My name? Yeah, your own name. You could say whatever. You could just say wow if you want to.

Okay. I'm going to say my name. You might say his name. Because those are the rules. See my name. Okay. This is the beautiful voice edition. Okay.

Mandy Ingber She is the woman who sang Top That from Teen Witch Top That, it's her You lock? I'm locked in I didn't even hear the second one The other option

Wait till I finish saying the second option Janet Varney Who was the guest on our episode about the faculty Matt Matt Matt I buzzed in

Okay Matt Do you want to guess Janet Varney Janet Varney And I'm locking it in Janet Varney $70 $Mandy Ingber, the woman who's saying top that in Teen Witch, $50.

Yes, Matt, you're the winner of the cameo quiz. Hit that theme music. It's fun. Yes, the song Word Up by Cameo. Okay. Dang, if I had heard Janet Barney beforehand, I would have said Janet Barney. That's why you never buzz in early. I know, I know.

Anyway, and hey, listen, I can hear all your little wheels turning. and your cute little heads out there, you're like, I should buy a cameo from one of these people for free with ads. Yeah. I was going to say don't. Go to maximum fund.org, let's join, get a membership,

and then tell us what you would have said. For one Ian Zering cameo, you can become a Max Fund member for like four years. Honestly, it's a better investment. It's a better investment. We get bonus episodes. So we thank you for thinking that little cuties,

but don't do it. Yes. I get a lot of anxiety doing cameos, and I would appreciate it if you didn't do that to me. Oh, but you can buy one from Emily and Matt. That's what I'm saying that's fine. Don't buy one from me. I forgot my login.

Jesus. But I would rather you log on to, like, Maxim Funn. I was trying to head off people who were like, I'm going to buy an Ian Ziering cameo for them. Oh, well, don't take it away from me in Zering. No, you'd fine, zearing. Well, his hairline says otherwise. That's true.

That's fired. Sorry. I think for blonde people, it's harder to make the plugs work. Somebody's gone in for Cameo King. It's true. Well, hey, we're going to talk about The Ring, but before we do, we want to let you know this movie contains suicide. So if that's not something you want to hear us talk about,

we're going to play some music and give you a chance to find another episode. We're back. We're talking about The Ring. It's Halopine, our celebration of horror movies, where we probably also make dick jokes because, you know, you've heard the show. Emily, you have said many times that this is your favorite horror movie. Yes, it is. Talk about the first time you saw it.

Yeah. Have you watched every movie in the franchise? No. I mean, okay. So I saw this in theaters in 2002. The viral, like, campaign, like, everything people kept talking about how scary it was. I feel like this, it was 2002, so there was, like, the 90s was always this self-referential, like, kind of horror thing with scream. and I know what he did.

Everything was kind of like, horror is a joke. And then this was such a sincere, like, hardcore. Also, I consider this to be a feminine horror movie. And I think this is the first horror movie that made me feel connected to it. Because it's about the terrors of motherhood and terrors of being a little girl who's misunderstood. It's so spooky. The death of print journalism, too. That's scary to all.

Terror of Wells. And there's, like, this mystery of technology and spiritualism versus technology versus, like, horror. I don't know. I loved this movie so much. I think it is such a gorgeous movie. It just, I became obsessed with it. And then I wrote a paper about it in college. I couldn't find it.

I was going to bring it. And I'm sure it was bad. But I loved it. I bought this movie on DVD. As soon as it came out, I showed. all the girls in my neighborhood and they all loved it too because it's not necessarily like that

no it is truly haunting I wouldn't say that it's horrifying I'd say it's very haunting but the second one fucking sucked so bad but I just recently watched you know CZ World

this YouTube channel I watch a lot Zach who does that channel did a whole deep dive on the history of this including the novels in Japan like where it all started. Yeah, it's a remake of a Japanese movie. I think it kicked off a little many craze

of like Japanese horror movies getting remade over here. So the grudge was after this. Yeah, some of them good, some of them not. Yeah, but so these were books in the first place and I guess that it became like a TV movie and then it became, I think that there's video games now. I think there's like animation.

It's very, very big in Japan and the lore of it is so different than the West's like. into it. So I highly recommend going and watching that video on CZ World because it fucked me up and it's way hornier. Matt, have you seen this ring or any rings? I have seen

all two of the ring movie. There's another one. Oh, no, I didn't watch it. And I didn't watch it. I think that's the only one I've seen is ring Zuh and I watched that to talk about it on the flop house a couple years ago. Of course. Was it the one with like Vincent DeNofrio's in it? And yeah, it was like

very forgettable. Can you just watch a movie for the sake of watching a movie, Jordan? No. Yeah, that's right. No, we can't, Matt. This is the stone that is attached to our legs. This is our life now. To be honest, what else can we do?

It's like we don't build anything in America. We just make content. This is it. No, I saw The Ring when it came out in theaters. It was and remained the scariest I had ever seen up until I saw Hereditary. Wow, okay. It is the only movie

until hereditary that scared me so much I slept with the lights on for a week Wow, okay. Yeah, the flash of the girl face when she's all fucked up in the closet.

In the closet was one of the scariest things I had ever seen. In my opinion, that is the best jump scare. Yes, because it was better than a jump scare. A jump scare can be anyone

just going, nah, you know, close the refrigerator and there's a ghoul thing. Yeah, it's a bus close in its doors. It was so unexpected because you didn't know what this thing did to people. You knew people died, but then it's a fate worse than death. Right, yes.

But the ending scene, which I'm not going to say what it is right now, people reference that as the scariest scene. I found that to be just riveting. I thought it was great. So cool and very cool, but it wasn't as scary. Nothing lived up to that one scene. And it was better. It lived up to it. It just wasn't a jump scare.

Right. Well, I mean, it was better than a jump scare because the makeup for the, you know, dead girl in the closet was so good. It's a dummy. Well, okay, the makeup they did on the dummy was so good. Like, I was freaked out. So, yeah, I love it. Well, yeah, Gore Verbinski is the director of this who went on to do Pirates of the Caribbean, which that kind of wet, like creepy, murky, like, atman. is perfect.

And the very underrated Nathan Lane comedy, Mouse Hunt. No way. He did Mouse Hunt? He did Mouse Hunt. I love that. Me too. I like Mouse Hunt a lot too.

Oh shit. We got to do Mouse Hunt. Also, I read they originally offered this to David Lynch turned it down. He turned down the ring? He turned on this, yeah. It felt very David Lynch

as I was watching it because also Naomi Watts, someone who David Lynch kind of discovered. And when I was watching her performance, I was like, I bet David Lynch. David Lynch love this movie.

Yeah. And not enough to make it, though, I guess. He had other shit to do. Gore Vibinsky got famous from doing the Budweiser Frogs commercial. No. What a career. Who did the Budweiser frogs? I know two of the frogs.

Really? Who are the frogs? And they had different actors for each frog? Three different actors. One of them is, okay, from my church. Okay. This guy, Adam Brooks, he was like he was in my youth group. His dad was one of the Budweiser frogs.

And then this guy who I kind of dated on and off in theater in high school, Ryan Duke, his dad, Pat Duke was one of the frogs. So a lot of neighborhood dads were a lot of dads. They were, I know two of the frogs. The other one can go fuck himself. Wait, which ones did you know, Bud, Wise? I don't know which one they were. Bud and Er.

I'm going to, I'll ask my buddy Ryan, which one his dad was. But yeah, there was, I knew two of the frogs. Three different actors. Yeah. How a legendary voiceover actors, too. Bud Wise, her. Trueer words were never spoken. Other than, was that?

We had commercials back then. We fucking did. Well, now it's just Zach Braff singing with Jason Mamoa. The other thing is like, there was. Just a bunch of hot ozimic moms. Crazy money in it. Oh, sure. Like, I went to Pat Duke's house in L.A.

when I first moved here for Thanksgiving. And this house, you wouldn't believe it. There were, you know, there were commercial actors who got super rich. Who made money. This is the house that Wise built. Anyway, so let's talk about what happens in the ring. It starts with the DreamWorks logo, which kind of glitches out. I love that.

Did you guys experience while watching the movie some random glitches that flashed the ring? You know, it's interesting. I think my internet was kind of slow. So while I was streaming this, some things kind of froze in a scary way. So yeah, that was kind of fun. So I was watching this live streaming on TikTok. Okay.

We had some people joining me, 95 people, but they were very nice. I was so scared. I had my friend Chelsea's dog. I was clutching that dog. But every once in a while it was flashing and I'm like, are you guys seeing it? Because I feel like it's doing a staticky thing.

I'm going to look it up right now. now because I could have sworn that there was. So it starts with a couple of teens, smoking pot. And so I, again, I have not, this was my first time watching this movie. I knew the premise. I laughed so hard when one of the teens, two minutes into this movie is like, have you heard about this new videotape that killed you when you watch it? I'm like, oh, just saying the premise.

It's like if it was the purge, if one of them just said, like, hey, have you heard about that one day a year where you can kill anyone you want? So I'm like, oh, okay. So I guess the neighborhood teens have all heard of this thing. and one has watched it. Ah, she saw it on a vacation. She starts choking, but it's a trick, and they have a pillow fight

because that's what you do in a movie when you need to see people having fun. How many, do you guys just getting pillow fights with your friends? All the time. You do? Okay. No, we just punch each other.

Yeah. I've told you the story about my friend who kicked me in the stomach and I barfed everywhere. Yes, it's a free of ads favorite. It is? Yeah. No, fuck out.

And the fainting thing? Yeah, yeah. Listen, you'll learn this as you do a podcast. I got to tell you. You'll have five or six stories that you just fucking recycle three times a year. No, I think that you're just a very good listener, Jordan. I think that the ladies out there should learn that Jordan Morris is an, this man is a good listener. This is very well.

I don't remember any story any of you tell. I don't remember anything I tell. Anyway, so yes, they're having a pillow fight. It's how you know they're friends And then their phone rings If this was If this was like a spoof movie The other line would go

Hello Sydney But it's the wrong number Which the scary movie franchise Did a ring like whole thing They did and I don't give a shit They can suck it I like that first one I haven't seen any of the other ones

But don't make fun of this movie I don't How dare you make fun of the ring I don't appreciate it out So and the teen picks it up She's like Harold Residence and I'm like, hey, that's when we had fucking phone etiquette, right?

Yeah, that's when you said, last name residence. Yeah, yeah. I said Morris residence. But it wasn't even her house. I love that she did that. Oh, yeah, sure. I did that, too, though. If I was, like, at someone's house, I did it

because it also made it seem like people, if, like, you were making noise in the house and you said something like that, the neighbors wouldn't bother you as much. Oh, that's interesting. Because at least you're being polite. The thing about phone etiquette is, like, it has to be universal or else it's weird.

Like I recently said this is he after someone asked for Matt leave and they went, what? And I went, it's Matt. I had to explain what this is he meant. Sounds like some Renfair shit. Well, like, this is he, my lord. This is he.

Answering on my telephonic device. But cell phone etiquette is different than housephone etiquette. Housephone etiquette when it's your parents' house phone. Can't send a picture of your dick to the house phone. Because it's like you want whoever. is calling to tell your parents what a good kid you are. Of course you do. So they go, oh, I talked to your daughter early.

What a nice young lady. And then it's like, can I go out and get fingered in a car? Yes. Please let me go. But, yeah, when people call me and I don't recognize the number, I usually answer in a funny voice just to make them think that it's not my phone. I pick up all robocalls. It's nice to talk to a robot.

I just, you know, what if it's Hollywood? Could be Hollywood? That's what sucks. It's never Hollywood. It's never. So, these nice teens with good phone etiquette, one of them watched this tape. We go into one of their rooms.

There's static on the TV. There's water coming out from underneath the door. She screams and something comes out and gets her. What is it? We'll learn later. We cut to a little kid in class, a real haunted-ass little kid. Aiden.

Aiden and his mom. Naomi Watts is coming in for a parent teacher conference. She's a single mom. She is so busy. So hot. She's on the phone. She's busy. She's trying to have it all.

She's a reporter for a dying medium. And her kid is drawing creepy fucking pictures in class. Yes. So this is the little kid drawing the like, you know, cryptic, cryptic crayon drawings trope. The kids drawn all kinds of things. The girl who died in the house was his cousin. And his teacher is worried. about him, and Naomi Watts is like, it happened three nights ago, so she just wants the kid to be

over it. It is so weird the way that she's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's fine. But no, the kid was drawing the stuff before she died. Yes, that's true. Which there's, so I think psychic connection, like, so the kid is obviously a parallel to Samara. Sure. So kind of like. Now, do they ever explain why?

No. Okay. But I think of it as, there's a lot of things in this movie that, you know, leave things open to interpretation, but in a fun way where you feel like you can leave it into interpretation, like Lynch stuff. Uh-huh, sure. Anyway, but like I, it feels like the shining. There's a little bit of a shining thing going on. Yeah, that's true. That kid also looks like the kid from the shining.

Yeah, he goes a little bit. And so this kid for some reason has like a connection to his family member who this is how. happening to so I feel like his cousin experiencing it is what connects him to Samara but his drawings make it look like someone who's fucking him essentially like it looks like a girl hovering over something or something hovering over a girl so it's very disturbing for a teacher the wife never hovers over me yeah uh once a year on my birthday and get the wife like why is this girl under the like it's very disturbing but clearly he was feeling a connection which So Samara and this little boy are already like

Yes You know So and Samara we will reveal is the creepy ghost That's causing this all The vengeful ghost Sure Yeah so the kids in class His mom wants him to be over

She died three days ago They go to her funeral And you know And apparently her heart just stopped The doctors don't know what happened And as her mom's explaining it That's when we get that jump cut to that You know it's not even

It's like two seconds on screen Her crazy, gross, melted face, very scary. We'll see one more melted face before the movie is over. So Naomi Watts, she's got that reporter instinct, that shoe leather reporter instinct. She goes out to smoke with the teens. One of them is played by Adam Brody. He is absolutely the oldest teen. Yes.

Oldest teen. He's supposed to be 16. He looks like he is the night manager of a vape shop. He's literally looked the same for, He has. He still looks like the oldest teen. Yeah. And he's a guy who's all neck.

Like he, when he moves, it is just whipping in a neck around. Like, that's his, I don't know if his body moves in any other spot. But also, this movie made me want a cigarette so bad. A lot of good smoking in this movie. No cigarette ever looked more delicious than in this movie. It made me want to draw. So she, so Naomi Watts, finds a undeveloped role of film. And again, just the, like, the dead media in this is so much fun.

to see like rolls of film, videotapes, it's great. But it's crazy to think about because it's 2002. Right, I know. It's only slightly over two decades. It seems like an ancient movie. Yeah. So yeah, so she gets this roll film, takes it to fucking Walgreens or something to have it developed. And the kids in the pictures that get developed all have smeared weird faces.

So that's something that'll come back. I really love the smeared weird face thing that they have in this. It is, you know, if you're, I think our age, maybe a little bit younger, you just know that as like a fun filter from like the Mac photo booth. Right. Well, there's that, but also when you add disposable cameras, like, which I still have disposable cameras that I haven't developed, which I need to. Oh, that'd be fun. They're probably fucked. But like, if something in the background looks smudged or if something looked distorted, you were like, ghost.

There's a ghost. That's true. That was the only way you would know there was a ghost was with the little snap. Yeah. And if people's eyes were glowing, you were like something's going on. Orbs. Orbs. Exactly.

I have some disposable camera photos of people's penises for my past. I need to see this. Because I thought they wouldn't develop them. Because like you take like, you know, kind of risque photos. And then you go, they won't even, I'm going to be in so much trouble when I give this to a Walgreens. and they're going to be like, we couldn't even that level age. We had to destroy the film. I do have some good photos of me and the Lucas Brothers.

We were smoking weed in the back of their car. Oh, yeah, the stand-up comics, the Lucas Brothers. It was in New York, and we were in the back of the car, and I was like, I'm going to take pictures of us smoking weed. And they were like, I don't give a fuck. And they developed them, and I still have them. And I'm like, what a nice time. So she finds in these photos that the number of the cabin

where all these teens were staying. What was the number? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Does it have significance? I don't know. I've only seen this once. I'm going to give everything significance, personally.

So, yes, they're staying in 12, we'll say, and she goes to rent the cabin from a real creepy cabin guy who's doing car tricks. I think he's the tallest person in the movie. Yeah. Can we talk about this guy? Tallest guy. Yeah. So this guy is a real, real woods creepo. He's telling her to do, pick a card, any card.

And at no point do they suspect this guy, which makes, which I was always like, are we going to come back around to where it's the cabin guy who knows when people watch it and is making the calls? He made the copy. Oh, because I was going to ask that, because I still don't know where the tapes came from. Okay, so, well, there's a little bit of a thing when you go into the scenes with Samara in the institution. Right. where she talks about some, like, film slides and how they came to exist.

But the only way to, and this is, I'm jumping ahead a little bit, but the ring is essentially a virus and a curse at the same time. So it follows. It's a final destination. And I keep talking about this. There would be, no, it follows if we didn't have this. So. It would be wild if there's a, I don't know what companies make all these movies.

If they could do a three-way team up of the race. final destination and it follows and someone gets all of them on the same night. But also smile. Oh yeah, that's right. You can get a smile too. Yeah, because smile is very much that because it's when you witness someone dying from the virus, it goes on to you. The world's most cursed man.

Yeah. But I mean he just looked at the camera Mondays. And then you have to do the math to like get rid of all of those in one day. Anyways, Hollywood, call me. So the girl like you know from the beginning of the movie the girl who's the friend of the girl who dies she's in the institution but she's

obviously touched by the curse and can see things so witnessing someone die. Okay that gives you something so there's like a little bit of psychic connection between everything God I'm so obsessed with this this episode's going to be intolerable so anyway so this guy when you look at the

video collection that he's got, which I love a cabin, like, thing that has, like, a take a video kind of library. Yeah, right, it's really fun. Which I also looked at the videos that were surrounding the tape. Yeah. Which the tape is just a blank cassette tape

with no sleeve. It is that people are just playing. Like, the fact that I wrote this into the intro a little bit, I'm like, yes, the movie has to go somewhere. But who are just playing these random blank tapes? I don't know. I guess it was 2000. It's the mystery box.

The other ones, like, on Golden Pond is on there. And there's a lot of references to water. Okay. A lot of water stuff. But I can't remember all the movies. If you guys can list them, I forget. When I was doing the live stream, I was like, look at all these movies and trying to make connections with it. But, yeah, it's the most obvious, like, centered blank tape.

He put it there on purpose. Okay. He obviously made the copy. he is passing along the virus so that he doesn't die like that guy so he's putting that tape in all the cabins well he's just keeping it there

and he puts it in that position not unlike someone who's doing a card trick when they're trying to get you to pick a card is this your tape I love that okay I like that I like that this guy is if they ever did a prequel

you would yeah I don't know you probably skip this guy but it would be like how did it get to this cabin which in the original in Ringu, at least the one that I watched, it starts with like, the Japanese version. The Japanese version, which happens in daylight for the most part, which you would think would be scarier,

but my dumb American brain is like, it needs to be dark and spooky. Like, I need it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there is this kind of, it's like a resort, like a hotel resort thing, and there's a similar thing. So this is like that version of that. So she rents the cabin that they were in,

And then she puts in, puts in the tape. And we see a bunch of seemingly unrelated crazy stuff. What are we got in there? We got a ladder. We got fingers. Loose fingers. Horse eye. Okay.

Lady and mirror. Y'all, let me go through this for you. So there's a three-legged goat. Three-legged goat. Hobbling, there is a ladder that leads to nowhere. It's a very tall ladder with nowhere to go. Leading to nowhere, I think, is important. There's the chair that is spinning.

Spending chair. the box full of fingers that are twitching that are attached to nothing. But the maggots, this is the one that kind of haunts me a lot, the maggots turn into people all slithering amongst each other in mud. Right. Which I feel like is hell, personally.

But then the one that, like, really, I loved it. Everybody says that it just looks like a nine-inch nails video. Oh, yeah, sure, sure. It's like slithering around in mud with a bunch of other people. Yeah, I don't know about that's hell. That's Woodstock 94. There's also the horse eye and then, you know, Samara's mother falling from a cliff, which is a classic, you know, everybody thinks of that one, her brushing her hair in a mirror, but there's one that is always disturbed me and it's a man's throat. So it's a guy who's opening his mouth and there's, it looks like a rope coming out of it.

So I have like thought about these things a lot and people say it. It is intestines coming out of his throat. I don't know if I agree with that. When you look at his throat, it looks like a well. It looks like the ring. And you think about the idea of a rope saving you from the bottom of a well. There's also stuff of a throat and things like that that happened throughout the curse after you watch it. But do we think that that's Brian Cox in that video?

We have an amazing cameo of Brian Cox He's my favorite part of the fucking movie But yeah So that image for me is the most haunting image Is the man that throat is basically a well So she's watched all these creepy images She takes them back to the big city To get them analyzed by Noah

Who is a fuck boy A real fuck boy Who is She has a relationship to him We don't know what it is They clearly know each other but how he's kind of like a photo editor guy or something it seems like they barely know each other right and then first meet them so he so he uh he's like kind of helping her break down the video

and he tries to explain it to her and she's like talk to me like i don't subscribe to video geek magazine oh my that's my favorite like version of uh an english professor yeah talk to me like i don't subscribe to video geek also can we talk about his loft his loft is so cool it's so nice This is awesome. He has a lot of cool. I noted his stickers. I think like you freeze framed on the videos. What do we got?

Bad Religion Descendants. Oh, cool. Refused Penny Wise. I think these are all Epitaph Records bands. So the set decorator probably... Wait. Where were the stickers? He has a little locker.

Cool. I think a sticker for a side project from the guitarist of rancid, Lars Fredrickson, and the bastards. Pretty good album. Damn. I never noticed any of that. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the story. I'm sure the set decorator.

just called the record company and said send stickers. I love that. I don't know. But maybe, yes, what's the connection between Pennywise and their song? Fuck authority. Isn't that what Samara is doing? Fucking authority. Yeah.

She's fucking everybody is what it is. Thank you. So there's a little, maybe a little flirty energy, but a girl comes over. Noah says that's my assistant, but then she kisses him. They got a thing. Anyway Oh yeah I forgot to say

I think you know this If you know anything About this movie After she watched the tape There's a phone call Someone says seven days Yep Anyway

Okay So a bunch of stuff Oh can I say one thing Yes So she watched it in the cabin When they were there And she got the phone call And heard it

When she showed the video To Noah There was a phone call They never answered it Right It went to voicemail Because when you think about it

Let it go to voicemail fuck you and then she deleted the voicemail right um but i love the idea of ghosting samara oh ghosting a ghost yeah like she's been so busy yeah i'm sorry i would love for you to kill me but i'm so busy yeah can we get back to i just have a lot going on me i'm busy or better you just you put her on hold yeah she's listening to the girl from epa nemo musac see we need to i hope all of this happens in the scary movie version of this. Anyway, I'm going to kind of speed past this plot-wise

and let me know if I'm missing anything. Press one to threaten me. Samara. Samara. Operator. Talk to ghost girl. God, you can't hear me. Can I just talk to a ghost?

So I like this section of the movie where it's just research. I like people research and stuff. I love it too. Fun to watch people go to archives. Well, it's also a lot of horror movies have this whole research thing of trying to get out of a curse.

But this movie has, like, you know, a journalist and, like, a video editor. And it's the best use of these two, you know. Professions? Professions or, like, yeah, vocations. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's fabulous. So they're doing a lot of research,

go, look, at a lot of micro fiche I'm loving this and this creepy stuff's happening she's looking on a screen there looks like there's a fly on the film she's going to fly off the film then her nose bleats she has a dream where she barfs up a rope hair and there's a little like diode on the end of it that's crazy um so while all this is happening she gets up in the middle of the night and finds her kid has watched the tape yeah it was calling to him yeah it was like why would this kid just watch this blank tape it's a weird fucking kid it's a weird kid it's a weird kid like this This is one of those weird kids, and we love a weird kid.

But also, there's a lot of stuff about mothers who maybe don't want to be mothers or who are hesitant to be a mother or terrified about motherhood. He's calling her by her first name the whole time. He never calls her mom. No, he doesn't. But also Samara, the ghost that we're dealing with, we find out the adopted mother is who we keep seeing in the tape. that she was adopted and like, so there's a lot of stuff about parentage

and children being isolated and unwanted and abandoned and that women going am I supposed to be a mother maybe I'm not supposed to be a mother. Crazy. Again, feminine horror. This is like, I love it. I love it so much. So,

a bunch of creepy stuff happens. She goes over to this island. There's like a horse on the boat being transferred over to the island. The horse goes crazy this scared me i'm scared of horses oh my god i don't want did you kick me well also it looked so good like the i don't know the effects the cg i everything this movie is so stunningly beautiful i can't say that enough it's kind of like a proto a 24 movie yes absolutely this was like a studious it's like a paramount i'll be honest eight 24 ain't got nothing on this movie um i'm sorry it's such

an ambitious like movie but um the horse thing is that i guess samara grew up on a horse farm with her adopted parents who were horse breeders, and she was able to have an effect on their horses where they started killing themselves. Right. So, yeah, the horses would run out into the water. Or, yeah. Well, yeah, so she goes out to the island.

This is where the movie gets real Stephen Kingy. Yep. Oh, it gets, everybody's got. I don't know if it's in Maine. Everybody's got the voice. Oh, yeah. Got the Stephen King. Old person.

I'm an old person in the Stephen King movie. All the horses just kill themselves. Brian Cox's American accent just sounds like that. It rips. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. He's in the, yeah, this was a real, like, this was the, I love this actor jump scare.

It's like, oh. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well. That's me. That's me when a beloved character actor turns up for two scenes, something I didn't know they were in. Two excellent scenes. Two excellent scenes.

So, yeah, he's her dad. He's very creeped. to dad. He's carrying around a big hook all the time, being real threatening to Naomi Watts. Well, he's on a horse farm by himself. Because his wife, he did. Yep. And as soon as you fix something,

it doesn't break again. Oh, my God, that's such a good, Brian Cox. Well, it's Brian Cox. Yeah, Brian Cox in this movie. Yeah. It's Pet Cemetery Brian Cox. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, this is everyone in Pet Cemetery. I'm the old man. I'm going to eat a hamburger. Oh, yeah. You're going to eat some french

fries and a big man. Don't bury a dead boy up there in the head cemetery. Don't bear your daughter in a well, yeah. Gonna rain on Monday, my knees acting up. Don't throw your daughter in a well there. Sometimes dead

is better. Sometimes dead is better, but not in a well. God damn it. You guys are really good at Brian Cox. Thank you. Thank you. Because I'm a listener. You are. You're very good. Anyway, so yeah, let's tell the like story.

Story of Samara. Okay. Okay. So it's an Emily, let me know if I'm missing anything. Okay. So Brian Cox and his wife, who has committed suicide.

Yes. They wanted a kid and couldn't have one. Right. They're on a horse farm. They go, we talk to a little town doctor who also talks like Brian Cox even though it's a woman.

I talk like this as well. Can I tell you that's my least favorite section of this movie? Oh, yeah. The lady in that movie, and then she has this mute child. this boy who I don't know what's purpose he serves

and I don't think she's any good her whole thing just like... He's playing with that little toy where you have the blocks that scoot around the wires I would play with one of those now but then he's like on a playground thing the one that spins around

and he's not even doing it right he's kind of like spinning just a little bit and I'm like come on dude I think the implication is that when Samara came to town so what happened is Brian Cox and his wife went somewhere we don't know And maybe they explained this in sequels and prequels.

They adopted a child. We don't know if it was at a convent or something for unwed mothers. We don't know what the deal is. So then Samara was a creepy ghost kid and maybe drove some other kids crazy. They put her up in the barn where she was like tormenting the horses and then making them kill themselves. Well, I think that she had been before they put her in the barn. That's what was happening. Yes.

But we later find out where she was put in the barn and it explains a lot of the imagery. But yeah, so they adopted her. Things went wrong. They put her in an institution after a while. This lady seems to be a child psychologist. She's only got one patient, so I don't think she's that good. And the kid doesn't seem like he's doing great.

So we kind of get the story there and kind of what happened with Samara is her mom. realizing that she was, like, ruining her marriage, put a bag on Samara's head and throws her in a well. Well, and then... Yeah, I think it was more than ruining her marriage. I think that she was disturbing everyone mentally. Right. And the horses.

Like, their whole livelihood was this horse ranch, and she's just killing the horses. There is, like, a moment where she's in the mental institution, and she goes, they don't care about me. they only care about the horses. Right. Yeah. And I think the lady says, you know, this is a small town.

So when one person gets a virus, everyone gets it. Oh, yeah. So referencing it as a virus, which in the Japanese versions, they refer to this not as a curse, but a virus. As well. Okay. Yeah. So I think it's, so I think it is safe to say that the whole town was like, we got to fucking throw this kid down a world.

Oh, yeah. Was this Rochambeau for who's going to throw the kid in the wall? But can we talk about how this was supposedly 1978 that Samara was thrown out the well? Everyone looked like they were in the Salem Witch trials. Yeah, I think they know that like it's creepier if they're not in bell bottoms

if they're in weird flowing dresses. But they're not in shirts to say, where's the beast? Brian Cox with an afro. Right. Just a shirt that says shit happens. Gas or grass. Yeah, I know. That island is in its own weird little time.

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Listen to that when you're not listening to this. Okay, back to the show. We're back. It's free with ads. We're going to talk about the end of the ring. So the interpersonal revelation we've gotten is that Noah, the photography fuckboy, is actually Aiden's dad. Yep. So they, I guess he and Naomi Watts had the kid when they were. were young, he just kind of stayed in the same town, but then did not become involved with the kid

at all, but they still do photo projects together. Anyway, so we kind of see Aiden and Noah like getting a little close, and it's like, ah, does Noah want to rejoin the family? Anyway, so he'll die soon. Yeah. Whatever. Um, so they, uh, they go back to the cabin, which is kind of weird that, like, they go on this big journey. It's like, it was just in the cabin the whole time. What was? The well, the well and her body, yeah. So they dig underneath the cabin, the well from the ring, it's under there. Naomi Watts gets like pushed in through a random earthquake.

No, the TV, like Samara jolts the TV to hit her and push her into it. And then she dives down, gets a big handful of hair. There's a lot of crazy hands grabbing her and hair. And then Naomi Watts comes up with the little girl's body, which melts. into a skeleton. Which can we talk about the effects where it goes from the little Samara's body into the corpse

but also the nightgown is perfectly preserved? Gore, Vrbensky, okay, everything else is fabulous. The nightgown, it should be deteriorated. I like it, maybe it's really like that nightgown. It's like, no. We can't do it. We can't sully this nightgown.

It's beautiful. Gore Vibinsky, despite being named Gore Vibinsky, is from like 10, He's just a regular guy? He's in Tennessee? I think so. I looked, because I assumed with the name Gore Verbenzky. My name is Gore Verbinsky.

I make Ringmovie. I fight bear, Budweiser. Yes. And I also make mouse hunt. I think Gore is a screen name. Oh, okay. But yeah, he's from somewhere that's not the Russian mountains. Yeah, I just assumed he wasn't even a person.

That's amazing. So yeah. My mother was Jaguar. My father was donkey. And then as Noah is cradling Naomi Watts and the blanket they give you when you've gone through an ordeal, he says, how long do you think she survived down there?

And she's like seven days. Yeah. That's the connection. Very good. Is the movie over? No. No. The other stuff is going to happen.

Not a fucking chance. So they go back home and they're, is the kid dead? Is Aiden dead? He's laying on them in the middle of the floor in the position that the family guy characters lay in when they get knocked down this kid's laying so crazy.

Yeah, what the fuck is he doing like that? It's just a like, they want the audience to think the kid might be dead, but he's just laying in the floor. Yeah. Anyway, but he's fine until his mom says we took her out of the well, he's like, well, you weren't supposed to do that.

Fucking thanks for telling me, Aiden. I know. Well, she thought that, you know, she was the mother that Samara was looking for and by her discovering her corpse she could lay the soul to rest but this is a vengeful ghost so he went

you helped her why did you do that and then his nose starts bleeding I love that so much because it's really Aiden you're the spooky kid let us know this stuff before we go out to the creepy main island before we dig up the fucking cabin let us know start with

oh whatever you do don't take her out of the well he just was like don't help her put the well in a bigger well Right, exactly. So honestly, like her taking her out of the well is just set her free. There's like a level of freedom to the vengeful ghost now that wasn't there before. I super love it because the entire time Naomi Watts is in a different, think she's in a different movie. Yes.

Which is kind of a brilliant way of doing it where she's just like, you know, this little girl was abused by her father. And, you know, she was unloved. She's got a white lady savior thing going on. got like a white lady savior complex. Yeah. And then her white pretty lady. Her weirdo son is like no, no, no. That's like you just released a disease into the

wild. This is not, no, she's just bad. She's like, I'd rather help this dead girl than be a mom to my actual living son. Yeah. It is so funny. Shitty mom of the year. It's the greatest twist in a horror movie. It's so fucking good. And then we get our

fucking. So no. She goes back to Noah's house, so Noah's also watch the tape, and Noah's kind of like scheduled to die a little bit after Naomi Watts is scheduled to die. But she hasn't died, so she assumes that everything's fine. She thinks that's the reason she's not good. But Noah, he's at his, you know, fucking

cool-ass punk rock loft and the TV turns to static and Samara comes out of the TV. She hasn't been out of the TV before. It's like stay tuned. Right, but not hilarious. Why am I not laughing? It's like cool world.

I'll say ST-Tune has been free with ads for so long on YouTube. We got to do that. Yeah. But, yeah, a lot of people reference the jump when she comes out the way that the static kind of jump of her being in one place and then fucking like into another place without walking is something that really scared people. It is really cool. So, yeah, Samara comes and gets him and he's got the melty face. Well, the mouth looks like a well. Oh, there you go, the mouth is a well

What is the well, what is a well But the mouth of the face But like in the video The guy with the rope coming out of his mouth If you look at it, it looks a lot like the faces When you see them Oh yeah Yeah

That's crazy But I want to mention one thing Yes About how we were talking about How does the tape How does her soul make the tape Sure right So there is a tape that they find

When they're being like gum shoes Like looking around for at this institution about videos that psychiatrists or whatever filmed while she was in an institution and they have these slides that look like something from a overhead projector that you had in like school

you know the thing that like you put on the little transparency thing so there's images on a transparency thing and the doctor who has cigarettes he's got a little ashtray by the way I'm like oh fuck I want a cigarette anyway he goes how did you create these

how did these like you know images how did they just they just were and she goes I think about them and they are yeah yeah so but also would they look at where she was kept in the barn you see the giant ladder that leads to nowhere it leads to this tiny room in the barn with a television where there's a music box that's still playing just to make it like well it has to be creepy up here which I also think they could have done without that I think they could have just had a shitty bed and the television So all she had was this television that somehow got cable, I guess, up there. I mean, at the very least, it played VHS as I assume. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so there is a connection. So maybe she created the tape in her little VCR. Anyway.

I love it that she's just up there making tool music videos. Right. Somehow there's a psychic connection to a television and to the way that a VHS works. She had one visitor. It was David Fincher, a young David Fincher. Go on. And the red, white, and blue. Of course, she got to watch.

She just thought they were funny. She thought she was going to win $10,000. Yeah, she's like, I made this tape, and I thought it was funny, and no one thinks it's funny. You want to die. Oh, hi, I'm just a little girl getting thrown down a well. Oh, I'm a horse. Oh, do you like my eyeball?

Bob Saggis doing all these voices. Let me see if I could fall down the well. Yeah, Alfonso Ribeiro would be doing all. Yes, exactly. It's just a bunch of kids. like in black and white getting kicked in the nuts. That'd be great, honestly. You're gonna die in seven days.

Hollywood, call us. But you're also gonna get $100,000 in a trip to Disneyland. In Orlando, Florida. Yeah, so then Naomi Watts kind of realizes what we've mentioned that it's more of a virus and when you show someone the tape, you get the virus off of you. So the last shot is like her and Aiden, copy and tapes. Yep.

Copy and tapes. And, well, so, yeah, he has to, so she's taking his finger and making him, because she made a copy, which there are deleted scenes. Like, if you get the DVD, there's, I guess there was a scene, an alternate ending where they're putting it in a blockbuster. Oh, that's funny. That's cool. They should have done that. Yes, I think like last week's long legs, we have a mom kind of making a deal with the devil so that her kids survives. Yep.

Themes, they're everywhere. Being a mom sucks. It's what it seems like So all these movies are trying to tell us Trust me, my wife is a mom It sucks Well I mean being Aiden Or being Noah seemed to suck more

Oh yeah yeah yeah Well hey we're gonna rank the ring But first Oh we gotta do the hunk watch Anybody got a strong feeling about the hunk of this movie I have a slight one Go ahead Emily Okay it's Brian Cox

And he's great I didn't get to say this thing about Brian Cox. I know you're going to have to edit a lot of this out. I'm so sorry, you guys. I'm very obsessed with this movie. So Brian Cox also commit suicide in this movie. Oh, yeah, we didn't even talk. I kind of thought, because he has all this video,

does he have video editing equipment? I guess. He wraps himself in all these cords and then jumps in the bath. And yeah, I was like, was he making the tapes with an avid in his anyway. Also, a toaster would do. I have a whole thing about this. Yes. I think he was trying to bring.

the curse. So he also puts a horse bit in his mouth. So he's got all of these TVs and cords and everything and I think that TV

is probably from the barn. I think there's probably stuff that happened with this little girl and everything was brought back up again

when Rachel comes to ask him questions and he feels like it's his responsibility to end the curse now that he knows that it has spread to another person.

I don't think he realized people were making copies. Probably the tapes originated in the mental ward, is what I'm thinking. Okay. And then people, doctors and stuff, realized we got to make copies and blah, blah. So I think that he

also had the tape of her from the mental institution. He had checked it out. Yeah. And my hunk is the guy that checks that out. I think he's pretty hot. Oh, that's a good hump. That's a good hump. But yeah, so he has the tape. He's got all this stuff. He's got all these cords. So I think he thinks that by him killing himself in the bathtub with the tape and everything and the horse bit,

because the horses were cursed, that he will end the curse. I love it. I love that theory because that's two then attempts at breaking the curse that don't work. That's really good. I think that why would a man put that much effort into something? Right. When you simply just, like I said, toaster. Toaster.

Yeah. He could have done that. I think that he was truly trying to do something. Or he's a fucking drama queen. Oh, you could be beau. Yeah, you can be both. Get you a girl who can do beau. He's a messy, a messy main guy.

My hunk is Adam Brody. Adam Brody. I mean, just because he is, I mean, a classic hunk. And I also love that his character, which doesn't show up at any other time. You really are expecting more Adam Brody. It just shows up to be like, hey old lady, you don't know about the tip. Hey old lady who's a year older than me For real

She's so beautiful in this movie I love the way all the teens treated her Like she's the world's oldest lady You're just like oh what are you even doing here Yeah Dried-up old twos Gorgeous movie star Yeah stunningly gorgeous

You modern version of old Hollywood glamour That people will utilize in films I mean I think that I gave When I was being blonde I think that that was the picture of the hair I wanted. The best blonde color. Well, yeah, that's the hunk watch. Wait, what was yours?

Oh, the guy who checks out the tape. Wait, who's the guy who checks out? You mean the guy at the cabin? No, the guy, so when Noah is snooping around trying to get the tape of the interrogation that she did in the mental institution. There's just kind of funny guy who kind of gives him a hard time.

Just attractive kind of nails his little one scene. And I'm like, there we go. This guy's great. Okay. I need to watch again because I was too obsessed with other stuff. He's like the black guy

who told him like what do you think I'm stupid? I know you're not Brian Cox's character. And then he lets him check out the tape anyways. Well, there was no tape. His stipulation was you better not take it.

Yeah. It's like, oh, okay. Yeah, kind of akin to like the guy who runs the mental institution in Long Legs. It's kind of a funny, one-scene actor who really knows it. All right, we're going to rank

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and max funstore.com if you want to get our merch. Okay, let's rank the ring on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials. Maybe I'll go first since I'm the noob and I'll let you guys close it out. I'm going to give it a seven. I really liked it. I thought it was a very fun Halloween romp, very effective. Yeah, it didn't like get under my skin. Yeah, and that might be just as a result of like a lot of movies have imitated it

and you see this kind of thing a lot. So, you know, it didn't like, you know, it didn't keep me up at night. But I really did enjoy it. A lot of fun performances. A very creepy atmosphere. And I think a fun movie to show, like, I think if you're not a horror sicko,

you can watch this movie because, like, it's not about gore. It's not about being super shocking. It's about mostly, like, atmosphere. There's a couple cheap jump scares, but it's mostly about, like, cool mysteries and creepy stuff. I can't believe you said cheap. I'm not saying it's bad,

but I'm just saying there. kind of like, bah, you know. Yeah. But I think some people don't like that. And I think if you're like,

I don't want to watch horror movies because there's a bunch of weird jump scares. Yeah, this one's good. There's a couple. Yeah, yeah.

And I think that's, that's to its credit. I'm giving it credit for not doing a ton of that. All right. So yeah, I'm going to give a seven. Matt,

what about you? I'm going to give this a nine. This is an incredible movie. I loved it. It's very scary. Upon rewatch, I'm happy to say. I will,

be able to sleep with the lights off although I will be holding my wife extra close beautiful and if the ghost comes I will throw my wife at the ghost and say take her first please I deserve to live more that's true

I have podcasts to produce I have so many stings to me I have stings Emily where are you going on this? I think you know it's a tipy 10 for me it's the movie that made me fall in love with horror I love this movie so much Every time I watch it

There's new things I discover And new like I don't know Angles and things that I think about And I love looking at deleted scenes I love looking at other people's takes on this It never gets old to me I love it

And I wish the second movie was better All right That's our review of the Ring Time for some personal plug-in Emily gotten anything No. Okay. Hey, check her out on, check her out on Cameo, right?

Yeah, sure. Check me out, but don't ask me to do stuff that stresses me out. Just do happy birthday. Fucking congratulations. Happy anniversary. Don't make her lick anything. Yeah, please. Matt, got anything?

I have, I will be at the Ice House on November 1st. So come out to that and follow me at Matt leave jokes on Instagram to see more dates. Okay. And hey, when's this thing we're making coming out next week? Oh, boy. Well, if it is next week, October 22nd, you can go to your local comic book store and get a copy of Predator Black, White, and Blood. Number four, a Predator Comics anthology with a story by me. If you're in the L.A. area, you're going to want to come to Things from Another World on October 25th. I will be signing the book with the great writer Cody Ziegler. four to six, come see us there. And, yeah, on November 8th, I will be at the Burbank Book Festival and at the Revenge of Comics and Pinball comic creator block party.

So two chances to see me on the 8th if you live in Southern California. And, yeah, check out that Predator comic. It came out real good. And I don't know. Let's just say there's more Predator comics may be coming out for Marvel Comics. I don't know who might write them.

Someone, so just keep an eye on the world of Predator Comics from Marvel, they may or may not be coming out with people who may or may not be writing them. Okay, that's all. That feels very subliminal. It was not at all. Okay. Something I said. It was a normal

thing to say. It made sense. Okay. Tune in next week when our movie will be Ernest, scared, stupid. Maximum Fun A worker-owned network Of artists-owned shows Supported directly by you