Free With Ads - The Wolf Man (1941)

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

This week we took a dive into Universal's dark universe with the werewolf movie that started it all The Wolf Man, the 1941 black and white classic about a creepy man who gets even creepier.Tune in next week when our movie will be... Teen Witch. -----Watch Emily, Jordan, and Matt every weekend on Good Mythical Weekend.Also watch Emily's show Emily, Have You Seen This? on Mythical Society!Jordan will be at the Toronto Comic Arts Festival on June 7th and 8th. The address is 50 Carlton Street in Toronto! 

This is Free With Ads, the podcast that asks the question, why pay Peacock eight bucks a month to watch a new Wolfman movie when you can go online for free and watch the original, which might be a little slow and boring, but it's only about an hour long, so you can use the extra time to research the benefits of these air fryers you've been hearing so much about. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is The Wolf Man, the 1941 classic monster movie that proves that there's nothing sexier than a big hairy guy who walks like a beautiful, delicate ballerina. With us as always is the super producer, the he-freak, Matt Lieb, hitting us with those

hot drops once every full moon. There, wolf. There, castle. Why are you talking that way? I thought you wanted to. What's that from? Young Frankenstein. Oh, okay.

You know what this reminds me of when we did the catch the fish with granddad thing, me and Jordan did it. And I was- I guess it's a good mythical morning bit where you try and like snatch a fish shaped oven mitt off someone's hand. Yeah, and I was a werewolf person and I just kind of came out and I went, werewolf here, wolf?

So like, so when you said, there, wolf, there, castle, I was like, oh, god, they get it. They get it, too. One of the best jokes from one of the best movies ever made. Yeah, totally. Shirley, you can't be serious. And Don't Call Me Shirley. That's another.

What other movies do our dads love? Let's see, Men in Black, that's my dad. Cabin Boy, that's my dad. The Mask for No Reason, that's my dad. My dad's taste in movies is. We like Apocalypto. You know what? Oh, okay.

You're not wrong about that. I just saw that for the first time recently in that movie. Not a great director as a human being, but really cool movie. Sure, everybody's got problems. Matt, I'm questioning your choices to start the Mel Gibson Rewatch podcast. I'm not affiliated with this one. Oh, no, no, it's a different podcast. I loved your expose of the passion of the Christ.

Oh boy, God. He was so passionate. He was very passionate. Say what you will about Jesus. Say what you will about Jesus. A passionate guy. You could tell that he had passion. Oh yeah, he fucks.

Mm, Jesus fucks. Before we talk about The Wolf Man, which is, as of this recording, streaming free with ads, we're going to talk about something else we saw for free on the internet this week This comes courtesy of Emily Fleming. This is a really cool little piece of 90s detritus that I had no idea existed and I found this for us Tell us all about it. Okay. So I had never heard of this either, and honestly, I thought it was AI because it has this kind of hazy film quality to it.

But I guess- Everybody's got six fingers. Yeah, exactly. They turn into spaghetti at the end of it. Yeah, baby turns into its own dad. Exactly. So it's, I guess in 1994, there was either an American or Canadian, it could go either way, live action Sailor Moon pilot

that had totally different animation. It was like they had live action girls who were all best friends and they'd be- So it looks like Saved by the Bell. Like the live action stuff looks like, you know, or a Degrassi, something like that. Babysitter's Club. Yeah, yeah.

But when they transform, when the Sailor Scouts turn into the like, superhero versions of themselves, it goes into this like, 90s ass DIC animation. Yeah, it doesn't look like the original Sailor Moon at all. I even look at the outfits and be like, do you guys know what sailor is a reference to?

Because the costumes at Sailor Moon kind of feel a little sailory and then these outfits are just like, I don't know, it's a skirt. But the animation is not great. It's not as cool as the original, but that's why the show didn't happen, I guess. But the best part about it is the theme song.

Yeah, see theme song rules. All right, hit it best part about it is the theme song. Yeah theme song rules. All right hit it Matt. Here it is. Who is it? Wow it's even better than we thought. It's so long and it tells you it goes's still going. And it tells you, it goes through everything you would need to know about Sailor Moon. It's like, she's got a cat that talks.

There's a guy named Tuxedo Mask. They have an on again, off again thing. And she's got five friends. They're each from a planet. Matt's sister wants to watch this instead of Drew Carey show with Matt like better. The actual episode is two minutes long because the theme song just fills the entire programming

block. How'd they know about my TV choices? I mean, and amazing to hear the vocals of young Courtney love Well, there are videos about like did you know these songs are written about Courtney love and then it'd be like What if what if this was wonderful? Week by the bare naked ladies all kinds of stuff written about Courtney Lowe. It's been one week since you killed Cobain. Oh man. Allegedly.

Allegedly. I don't believe it. Well, yeah. The failed American pilot of Sailor Moon, it's out there. And it's got a theme song to die for. Oh, yeah. You can watch it on YouTube, but also go watch the whole theme song with the visuals, with the video.

It's so funny, it's so funny. We made a mistake as a culture when we stopped having theme songs that lay out the plot of the show. Yes, 100%, or theme songs that did a couple verse chorus verses. Yeah. Yeah, whatever happened to the Sailor Moon? or theme songs that did like a couple verse chorus verses. Yeah.

Yeah, whatever happened to the Sailor Moon? Milkman, the paper boy, and Sailor Moon. And the paper boy, and even Tuxedo Man. Oh damn, now I'm gonna wanna watch Family Matter's Sailor Moon version. What are we doing watching these fucking movies? Anybody got any moon? Sailor Urkel. I've never watched Sailor Moon, What are we doing watching these fucking movies? Let's watch. Anybody got any moon?

Sailor Urkel. I've never watched Sailor Moon. I don't know what the fuck it's about. Have you not? No. Oh my gosh, I'm shocked. I would have guessed that given your interest in the kind of transforming teens

of the Power Rangers, Sailor Moon would have been up your alley. But they don't transform much. They just transform into another little skirt. They get a different outfit. They get hotter. I was obsessed with Sailor Moon as a kid. I totally had a Sailor Moon period.

We would have fought over the remote. I'd have been like, but Drew Carey is on. My god. Drew Carey. Well, I guess we're gonna have to explore a Sailor Moon movie. Oh, we have to, we have to. Because Jordan has just informed me that there are movies

I didn't know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's a ton of ton of good Sailor Moon content out there She fights for justice. Well, clearly Godzilla's in it too. We played the theme song I can't believe they got Godzilla to guest star Very special episode. Very special episode. Teach them not to do drugs. He's addicted to drugs. But you know who isn't guest starring in Sailor Moon? It's the Wolfman.

Amazing segue. Thank you. Beautiful segue, perfect. No notes. Professional. Very professional. Yeah, the Wolfman, 1941. Let's do a little check-in.

I wanna know how many of these old universal monster movies have y'all seen, and how many of the Wolfman reboots have y'all seen? Zero and zero. Yeah. Okay. Nothing. I've seen the Bela Lugosi Dracula. Okay.

And I think that's it. Oh, interesting, okay. I haven't seen the original Frankenstein. I don't think, this was a treat. I'm really enjoying it because I've been hearing all about Universal in Florida and their whole, the dark universe. The dark universe.

Yeah. And this makes me really excited to kind of see references and things and I wanna go. I wanna see that. Me too, I want to see that. Me too. I want to go to that thing so bad. Yeah. Also my 40th birthday is next year and my parents were like, we'll go on a family vacation wherever you want. And I was like, dark universe.

Yeah. Do I make what's better than celebrating a single child, this 40 year old than making her family in their 70s go to Disney and Universal together. Pretty good. I know, I think so too. But yeah, so this was pretty rad to go check this out. So I had fun. Yeah, I got into, there's an old showbiz podcast,

you must remember this, hosted by Carina Longworth, great show, and she did an expose on this era of monster movies, got me obsessed, I bought a Blu-ray box set and crammed, powered through these things, I really like them. And yeah, as far as the other Wolfman movies go, I'm kind of a defender of the Benicio del Toro Wolfman. That's one of my like- I haven't seen it yet.

I hear it's good. The common, the only thing I've ever heard about it was that it like stinks and it was a disappointment. I really love it. Kind of funny, kind of campy. Maybe Benicio's phoning it in a little bit, but there's a ton of good stuff in it. And I watched the Wolfman reboot from this year,

just as a fun little coda to this. You know what I have seen is the movie Wolf with Jack Nicholson and Michelle Pfeiffer. Oh, I've never seen that. It's fun. Okay. It's fun to imagine Jack Nicholson as fuckable ever. Like, you know?

I love to like look at it and go, why is this man a movie star other than the fact that he's very talented? But like, you know? I love to like look at it and go, why is this man a movie star other than the fact that he's very talented? But like, you know. Yeah. I saw the American Werewolf in Paris. Okay. With Tom Everett Scott from That Thing You Do?

Absolutely with Tom Everett Scott. And with a wonderful remixed version of Mouth by Bush, which is the only reason I saw it, because I was a big Bush guy. Wait, so you went to see movies where Bush had a song on the soundtrack? I mean, it was such a good song for the trailer that I was like, okay, I'll see this werewolf movie

if it's got Mouth in it. Yeah, I mean, Gavin Rossdale probably personally approved the use in the movie, so he probably approved the movie. He touched it with his beautiful hands. You guys, real quick, Gavin Rossdale probably personally approved the use in the movie. So he probably approached it with his beautiful hands. You guys, real quick, can I tell you, I went to a bar I'd never been to before. I can't remember where I was because, you know, anyway, so I was talking to you. There's a bar you've never been to? Yeah, that's wild. Can you believe it?

But I was hanging out and somebody was playing Bush and I was like, I fucking love Bush. And the guy goes, really? The bartenderender went really? It's my favorite band and I'm like is Gavin Rossdale gonna be in the in the next Constantine movie? He goes I've been thinking about that a lot like we started talking about. Is Gavin Rossdale in Constantine? I didn't know that. Oh yeah he plays Beelzebub. That's right he does. News to me. I do like that Constantine movie. Or no is is it Baldazar? I can't remember, whatever. But he's great in it. He plays a shirtless guy, and that's all that matters.

Well, he gets the shit kicked out of him, which is pretty cool, and he's all slimy and green under his skin. I loved it, I loved it. Okay, nice. I liked that Keanu Reeves Constantine movie. I didn't know that was Gavin. It's currently on Netflix.

Oh my gosh. Oh, fuck. Okay. You did a pause like it was free with ads. Sorry. When it is, we'll let you know. Free with my mom's password. No.

Right, yeah, we should have an amendment to the premise of this podcast where we can watch a movie if we've stolen someone's password. Right, yeah, it's free for us. Right. Free. Totally. For us. Right. I'm free. Yeah.

I hope my ex doesn't find out that I'm still logged into her. Yeah. Her Hulu. Oh my God, I'd give anything for an ex's Hulu right now. Yeah. Well yeah, let's talk about this Wolfman. It starts out with you see the cast and you see the name of the character

They play fucking do this in movies now It would help me keep track of everyone in the fast and furious movies You know that Wes Anderson is the only motherfucker who'd be doing this. Oh, yeah, and we'll be like, oh god get on with it. Yeah Listen I love Wes Anderson, but I'm like, can we try a different vibe? I don't know. I like his movies. Who hates his father? What did you say, Jordan?

I I also I I like Wes Anderson movies, too. But like they get so Wes Anderson, it's like he's challenging us. It's like, well, yeah, what about this? What about if it was called the phonation scheme? You still see it? I guess. It's the same thing. Everything's got yellow cabinets.

Like, it's, but my thing is, like, there are a lot of people that, you know, there's Lynchian movies that it's a vibe, but this is an aesthetic. Like, it's not like an aesthetic, and I don't know if it kind of feels like it's a crutch at this point, to me. Sorry, I'm talking shit. No, no, I appreciate it as a og hater of Wes Anderson.

I'm not a hater. I really like Wes Anderson. But I just know for a fact that he could do more. Like, I just know it. I'm a big hater. and we're gonna still talk about it because this movie is an hour long, and there's no way you can do an hour long podcast. We got something to talk about. We got a stretch. We got a stretch.

No, I have always described his movies as like, oh, what if I made it look French? And then he did a French movie, and I was like, fuck fuck you it was like he was Spitting in my mouth. That's what I thought You got mad that he did a French movie I got mad cuz it was like he was he was like oh you think that's what I do well now I'm gonna do it extra

Do you have mad is there like somebody and you're like it like your wife or something is someone like dragging you to West Anderson movies? No, no, you just don't like the posters. I mean, I see the movies, or I guess I have missed a few of them. You're not missing much. I keep hoping for something I'm going to like. And every time I see him, it's because people have been like, no, but this is a really good one. Sure, he's back.

Yeah. Well, I think if you watch like, and this is our Wes Anderson recap podcast that we have now. If you watch like, Bottle Rocket and Rushmore, the style isn't oppressive yet. It's a style and it's a flavor, but the characters are real. They're down to earth. They're not the kind of like, flat,, you know, affectless weirdos that are now

in his movies. I didn't like Rushmore. Oh, okay. So you were a hater for a movie too. OG hater. What do you think about Bottle Rocket? You know what? I haven't seen that and I've heard good things.

I'll watch Bottle Rocket. I mean, Royal Tenenbaums is the first one I ever watched, and I loved it. Hated it. But here's why. The soundtrack was so cool. Good soundtrack. Don't like Elliot Smith either.

I just think that there was this deep longing and sadness in a lot of his, in Life Aquatic and in in Royal Tenenbaums that I loved so much. And then it got to this like madcap kind of, here we go, where's my lobby boy kind of like stuff. You know what I mean? Where's my lobby boy? The Grandpa DePas Hotel. Oh the lobby boy, yeah.

Oh lobby boy, okay that makes more sense. Like yeah, and I love Grandpa DePas Hotel. Who's absconded with my monocle? Exactly, exactly right. My snuff box Hotel. Who's absconded with my monocle? Exactly, exactly right. My snuffbox, it's been absconded with. Yes, everything looks like it's a cake that could be cut in two. It all looks like cake, that's true,

and I don't like cake either. Not a cake guy. I want some sad shit. Give us some sad shit, Wes Anderson. The most interesting thing that I've loved that he did was Fantastic Mr. Fox where I was like, oh cool. That's the one I really liked.

Makes total sense for him to go into animation or claymation. To me that makes complete sense. Absolutely. And then it's like, well, we got to give Tom Hanks a job because God knows he needs the money. He needs work. Speaking of Fantastic Foxes. Anyway, this has a pretty fantastic wolf.

So we get everybody, they get introduced. It looks like the trailer of a Wes Anderson movie. Then we get someone reading the dictionary and explaining to us what lycanthropy is. Lycanthropy, of course, the werewolf disease, but you know, it's 1941, werewolf not out in the popular culture as much as it is now. So you know, you had to hold the audience's hand. I appreciated that.

Wait, can we talk about what it was? Because I found that to be really fascinating because it's not about people actually turning into wolves. It is about the like psychosis of believing that you are turning into a wolf so much that your physicality starts to resemble a wolf. It was like a psychological definition. Right. And I think there's a lot of that in this movie. Like, oh, is he actually doing this? Does he just think he's doing this? Is he getting so swept up in the superstitions? Yeah, that's kind of interesting. In looking at the history behind the movie, I wonder what is going on with psychology at the time. Are these popular... Anyways, is this stuff that's kind of in the zeitgeist that people are afraid of now?

Well, there is a really funny... It was on Vine for a minute, and I'm sure TikTok has taken it up, but there was this strange addiction, I think, episode, my strange, where there was a kid who believed he was a wolf, and they cut to him and he just went, woof, like that, and you're like, tight wolf. So yes, so that's like, Anthropy, the disease or psychological affliction where you think you're a wolf or you're turning into a wolf We meet our main character

Lawrence Talbot, but they call him Larry. He's played by Lon Chaney jr Interesting guy. He is the son of Lon Chaney who was like the hunchback of Notre Dame and the Phantom of the Opera so Lon Chaney j who was like the Hunchback of Notre Dame and the Phantom of the Opera. So Lon Chaney Jr., big nepo baby, they like cast him in this because, you notice he doesn't have Junior in the credits, they wanted people to think his dad was in this. That makes a lot of sense because he is so ugly.

He is, he's, I would call his vibe dope or lummix. His vibe is, aw, I dropped my ice cream. Yeah, yeah. Oh my gumballs, I dropped my gumballs. Oh, I'm turning into Wolfman. Oh man. He's definitely the tallest guy in the movie, he's fucking huge.

Oh shit, he's the tallest guy? And can we talk about the guy, can we talk about the guy who plays his father? Oh, so his father, also interesting, his dad is played by Claude Rains, who was the invisible man. That's right. So, Bella-

Well, under this guy's double chin, he is invisible to him. Yeah. I can't see him. Bella Lugosi, Dracula, also in this movie. So this movie, on a very technical level, is a monster mash. Wow this movie on a very technical level is a monster mash. Wow.

Just from a very, from a semantic technical level, this is a monster mash. Wait a minute. Was he the fortune teller? He was. Yes. So the Bela Lugosi is the fortune teller. Doesn't have a lot to do in this movie, but you know, choose the scenery and is like one little scene. So yeah, this is definitely like, you know, a who's who of Universal Monsters at the time. Yeah, so Lon Chaney Jr., the star of this movie, looks the same age as his dad. His dad is a very good actor, Lon Chaney Jr. Maybe not so much. He's in the movie OK, he's in the movie. There's a couple of scenes that really like he made me feel things,

which I'll get into it because he's a fucking creep. Like in the top of this week. Oh, my gosh. But his father is like knee high to a grasshopper on his son. It's wild. He could pick his dad up like a fucking shake weight. Like if he wanted to. Yeah, it was like.

No, I'm the horsey and you're the rider, daddy. Yeah. Oh, I dropped my jacks. It makes sense that his mom is dead. Like he's huge. Yeah, sure. Yeah, it just came out all at once. Couldn't handle the birth.

Couldn't handle the birth. Full grown, full suit, little whiskey in his hand. He's got like a Papa Munster vibe. He does a little bit, does a little bit, yeah. Herman, Herman Munster. Looks the same age as his dad, possibly because Lon Chaney, the actor, ravaged by alcohol. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So maybe the reason he looks a little like his own dad. Unlike Bela Lugosi who was ravaged on heroin. There you go. Everyone... Oh, I didn't know that. A lot of fun ways to get ravaged in the 40s. A lot of good ways. Some people...

You could probably still get... You could always get ravaged by a wolf man. There you go. We're back. Segway. We're back. Segway. We're back baby. So Lon Chaney is a son. He's coming back to see his dad who lives in Wales.

He's been in America. He's been like doing America stuff, studying telescopes I guess. So his brother, he came, he's coming back because his brother died in a hunting accident. He will later die in his own kind of hunting accident. Ooh.

That is smart. Well, well, well. So he's like helping his dad like get his life together and they bring a telescope, which was probably like super trendy at the time. Yeah, probably like, you know, mentioning a, what are those bikes everybody got during COVID? Pelotons. Yeah, yeah like, you know, mentioning a, what are those bikes everybody got during COVID? Pelotons.

Probably having a telescope in that is like a Peloton joke. Ooh, one of those trendy new looking devices. It is gorgeous. Like, let's be honest, this whole movie is gorgeous. Like, it looks amazing. And I don't know if it's like my brain is broke or whatever, but I could imagine what color things were as I was watching it.

That telescope is gold. You can't convince me otherwise. And there's times where I was like, maybe I just decided what color people's outfits were, but I know that certain people's dresses were certain colors in my brain, but it was so beautiful. The sets, the paintings, there's a car driving and there's clearly a set painting that went on,

which, God, that's so beautiful. Wicked has hand-painted backgrounds and stuff. It makes such a huge difference. I'm just telling you. It's amazing. These are awesome looking movies and they were cheap movies at the time. They were kind of like cranked out, but they use light and shadow in such a beautiful way.

You can tell why these, you recognize, even if you've never seen these movies, you recognize the scenes, because they get reused so much. And they're so distinct. So yeah, these are- And the up is cool. It is so cool. I really think the practical effects are stunning in this movie. No complaints there. Yeah, they look cool.

So, yeah. So he's he gets a telescope for dad, a telescope that they say can look at Pluto. And the first thing he does is peep on a lady. Dad's not out of the room for two fucking seconds and he starts a peeping He's already a wolf man. That's right So yeah So the main the the female lead of this is Gwen and he is a creep to her from frame fucking one I don't know if it was intended to be cute at the time

It's like you could read this movie as like a commentary, right? Like this guy is an American fucking dope who comes to a foreign country and won't take no for an answer and fucking kills everyone and ruins it. He's such an asshole. He's already a predator. Right, yes, exactly. He's a predator who turns into a arguably

not as bad predator. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if anybody making this movie was like thinking about that, but I think you can read this movie as like, he's a villain from frame one. Yeah, he totally could have been. I think so because, I mean, we'll get into it, but there's a couple of instances where I'm like, oh, clearly they were...

It was a cautionary tale about... To me, this is a cautionary tale about the human nature of men in a lot of ways. Maybe I'm looking too far into it. No, no, no. I think you can. I think essays have been written about this movie as like criticism of masculinity. Have I read these essays?

No. Did I see that they existed by looking at the movie's Wikipedia? Yes. So they exist. And I think you can do that read of this movie and I think it like fucking holds up. So anyway. Yeah. So he's a peepin. He goes down into the store where Gwen works. He's like, I want to buy some earrings. He's like, no, not those earrings. The one you have on your bedside table. Fucking ew! Go away. So she's humoring him. I, you know.

Kinda, I think she seems terrified. She does, yeah, appropriately. She like doesn't swoon when he does any of this. He says he'll buy a silver cane with a wolf on top. Totally cool. Yeah, it looks awesome. Yeah. Ooh, ooh, Jordan. Real yeah, it looks awesome. Yeah. So, yeah.

Ooh, Jordan, real quick. Do you remember when we made our first tippy tin in the birds, I talked about how I wanna work in that pet shop. Oh yeah. It's so beautiful. This might have beaten that shop. Wow.

Yeah, the Welsh trinket shop. Oh my God, it's so beautiful. There's just like, it feels like it could go on forever. There's glass cases, there's all this cool shit, there's canes, there's jewelry. I'm like, and that chick's hair, Gwyn's hair is so stunning. Poor friend of hers with that crazy hairdo

that we've got later on. Oh, and Jenny. Yeah, Jenny is the worst hat with that hair, by the way. Oh, OK. I was saying with the actual, if you look at the hats in this movie, I was looking for a worse one. I think this movie is full of fabulous hats. They are, but Jenny's hair is insane.

OK, we'll go ahead and call Jenny's hair the worst hat. All right. Please, Matt, play it. The worst hat. There it is. God damn. It is like a whole entire baguette is just like sitting on the front side of her head. And I don't know how gravity worked back in the day, but it's wild. Anyway, I

want to work in this shop. Her outfit, I know that it had to be a hunter green. Like it's, I just know it. Were you on acid while you were watching this movie? No, I just want that to be a Hunter Green. I wanted it to be red and then I thought about it and I'm like, that shit ain't red. Sure, red riding hood, maybe a little on the nose. Oh, maybe it was red, ooh, Jordan.

She references it, she says like what big eyes you have. And you know, I think red riding hood is like a warning against, you know, lecherous men. For sure, yes, but yeah, she's stunning. The styling of the female characters in this, every single female character in this movie is awesome looking. Like, cool clothes, cool everything,

but yeah, I wanna work at that store and I wanna be her, I don't wanna date this creepy man. She's like, okay, we sell silver canes, we sell wooden stakes, we sell holy water, garlic, yeah whatever kills the creature from the black lagoon, guns I guess. Yeah so they they sell mystical items just a just general mystical item so he buys this cane for her he He complains about the price. It's like, you're trying to like flirt with this woman. You're like, this can't cost too much.

It's too expensive. My dad is rich, but he'll probably get mad at me. I'll be honest. This movie maybe feel a lot better about like my dating situations today that I've been through. Not like worse. You could be dating a wolf man. Could be dating a wolf man. Exactly, you know what I mean?

So he's like, you know, he keeps asking her out. She keeps saying no. He like shows up at the store like when she's closing and she's like, well, I brought a friend with me. So she's like, I brought this friend to protect me from you. Ding, ding. After saying no three times. Yeah, and this is Jenny with the bread hair.

So they all go to see, there is like a cavalcade of like Romani people who have come to town. They do not say that in this movie, they say something else. We'll say Romani as far as why we say that, consult someone smart. But yeah, so they go to this they go to this kind of like a festival. There's a fortune teller. This is Bela Lugosi here.

Yeah, very, very small part. But he, you know, he's he's milking it and kills it. And I kind of was looking at him going, is it? Nah, he's unrecognizable. Yeah, he's unfortunately in brown face. But that's- Oh he is? See? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You saw color too.

Yeah, there is, you know what? A lot of people say they don't see color, I do. I love it. It's all I see. So yeah, he's the fortune teller and he's telling Jenny's fortune and he sees a pentagram on her hand. That's kind of a cool practical effect. It was on his head too. Do you remember that?

Yeah, they've got tattoos and then they see the pentagram on Jenny's hand and he just tells her to leave and she's like, why? Is something the matter? He's like, no, nothing's the matter, go, go, leave. So convincing that nothing is the matter. He's having the hugest freak out. My favorite thing is- It's fine, it's all fine. Her response was, yes, yes, I will.

I will come out back tomorrow so you can freak out some more. I mean, mine would have been like, oh God, and then run away, but she's like, yes, yes. So Jenny leaves and she is attacked by a wolf. The wolf here is played by a stray dog that lived on the universal lot, who Lon Chaney adopted after this. Oh, that's nice. Well can we talk real quick because they all went

to this festival together. We've got Gwen, Larry, and Jenny. Jenny with the bread hair. And they just left her without telling her they were leaving. They just ditched Jenny with the bread hair. She can leave bread crumbs if she gets lost. Like Hansel and Gretel. From her hair.

But they just ditched her and I was like, what the hell, why would you do that? Like just leave a woman by herself in this time period. It seems wild. Jenny does seem to have a, like it's almost like a kind of military nurse uniform looking outfit also, which I found that to be interesting but yeah they just ditch her like that oh my god that front Jenny would be if I

were Jenny I'd be like fuck you Gwen our friendship is over also I'm dead so yeah a wolf killed me so yeah so Larry Lawrence, Lon Chaney Jr. beats the wolf with a cane pretty brutally. But he adopted the dog in real life, so that's good to know. So later when the kind of police go to investigate Jenny dying, they find Bella, that's the name of the character and the actor too, Bella,

they find his body and they kind of like accuse, they accuse Larry of the whole thing. By the way, I love that his name is like Larry. It's the perfect name for that. Okay. That guy, I'm Larry. I have a question for you guys. Oh, my fly's been down the whole movie.

I'm Larry. Oh, crackers. Can I, wait, I have, okay. I was thinking about this and it's like, how many people you know named Larry? I have an uncle Larry who was married to my aunt Lori. Larry and Lori. And their last name is Knight. It's Larry and Lori Knight. They're the coolest. He's a bass player too. He's like played for Pam Tillis and people like that. But like how many Larrys do you guys guys know? I got a I got a cousin Larry.

No way. I do. I got a cousin Larry, Larry Lieb. No. And my middle name is is. It'd be great if Larry Lieb was just a fucking alpha. I was just a buff surfer or something. We got Larry Lieb and Larry and Laurie. What about you, Jordan? What Larry's, no alliterative Larry's. Get off this podcast, we don't want you anymore.

Replace me with someone who knows Larry. All people who know Larry. If you don't know Larry, you're not on the show. Get out of here. Scram. Our hearts go out to the Larrys of the world. Larrys, we love ya. Even if you can't tie your shoes, oh, crackers.

Oh. Doop, beep, doop. So, again, in the fight with the dog, Larry gets bitten and he's kind of like starting the transformation. He starts to see these like insane images of like Bella and the other like fortune tellers and like wolves flying at his head. It's very, very cool. And he gets home and he pulls up his legs and he's getting a little hairy. He's got the he's got the hairy legs and he shows his feet.

Now they're gonna start calling me Harry Larry. Well, I was like the minute I saw this, I was like, maybe I can get Matt Lee to cut this together and we can put Apple Bottom jeans, boots with the fur. Because he starts creeping through the woods like, yes, he does. He has this delicate little ballerina walk. And it is like kind of creepy. You know, it is. yeah, it is like creepy. And they don't really explain why Bella transformed into an actual wolf and then he's this, I don't know.

It doesn't matter. Yes, yes, absolutely. So he at night goes out and kills a gravedigger. Interesting, none of this is hooked to the full moon. They never really mention it. I guess there are other Wolfman sequels where it is about the full moon, but it's mention it. I guess there are other Wolfman sequels where it is about the full moon, but it's just like not an issue here.

Yeah. And when he kills the Gravedigger, the Gravedigger screams out something. Did you guys hear that part? No, I don't remember. Yeah, he screams this. You're killing me, Larry! I'm sorry, this is a... This is a sit and sleep.

Are these... Are these... Are these national commercials? These are... These might be local. If you're in the LA... This is... This is a... You're killing me, Larry! You're killing me, Larry!

A sit and sleep will be anyone's mattress price. Are your mattresses... Your mattress is free There is a I love these I I don't know if these are national I've only lived in California I've mostly lived in Southern California. So I've been hearing the sit and sleep commercials my whole life Yep, and there's one and they do seasonal ones. They do them for like holidays and there's there's a There's one that starts out with this voice, this voice is talking about mattress sales. And he's like, who's that? It's around Halloween.

And he's like, who's that? And the guy in the commercials is like, it's the devil, Larry. I like in the world of these mattress commercials, they've seen the devil. That's amazing. The devil is real. I've ever seen any of these.

I'm more of a Watson's girl. What was the Watson's commercial? Watson's is like a, you know, it was hot tubs and pools and like deck stuff was kind of their forte. But the dad had like a bad toupee and a mustache and he had a young daughter who he put in a swimsuit. Oh boy. And she was the Watson's girl. And she did it for a reason.

She'd just be in like a hot tub and he'd be like, you know, pool things or blah, blah, blah, blah. And she'd go, that's Watson's. And then like be in a pool. And it's so crazy that people don't know about the Watson's girl. I talk about it all the time and I guess it was the Southeast in particular, but it is hilarious and I don't think it's really, it's of its time. The 80s,

90s is kind of when it happened. I love those commercials. I love any mattress commercial that names all of the mattresses. How many do you name? Oh yeah. Celie, Serta. Spring Air, Stearns & Foster, Churms and Buster, Chadam and Wells. Chadam and Wells. Well, with any luck, we'll be doing Casper stuff. So you know what? Oh boy, we love it. You want this girl to get a bikini on and flap that fucking Fupa around? I got it, buddy. I will do it for you. You'll get in a bikini but be on a mattress. Yeah, that's Casper, baby. I could still flap it. I could still flap it.

That's Casper. Look at how it bounces. I sleep on a Brooklyn bedding mattress, and I love it. Get out of this Brooklyn bedding. Get out of this. Oh, dang. That would be cool if we could get them. They're like fancy.

They're fancy. It's a nice mattress. Anyway, so he kills this grave digger, and then some other stuff happens. We'll talk about it when we come back. We're back. It's free with ads. We're talking about the wolf man. So he's running wild, he's killing all kinds of gravediggers. Police are looking for him and his rich dad is getting him off. His rich dad is making apologies.

You want to rephrase that there Jordan? No, no, his rich dad is jacking him off, his rich dad is like, you know, making apologies. You wanna rephrase that there, Jordan? No, no, his rich dad is jacking him off. Getting him off. There's some dad on son shit in this. It's fucking wild, it's hot. It's like when the mountain went against the viper in Game of Thrones, except for sexual.

Yeah, ooh yeah. Yeah. Ooh yeah. He popped his other head off. Giant son, Tiny Dad. Exactly. Exactly. Tiny Dad.

Yeah. Hold me closer, Tiny Dad. Jack me off onto the highway. They're driving now? Yeah, they're driving. And he's jacking them off on the highway. This makes sense. When Weird Al dies, we are in there, you know?

We're next. It's gonna be great. We're gonna be the song parodists of America. Oh, wait, you wanna know something about song parodists? Sure. Cletus T. Judd was this country music Weird Al. And that is the first, he did a standup like comedy competition for the locals

in Nashville to open for him and I tied with this guy. And I still have a copy of the check from Zany's for $50. Hey, did you get to open for Cletus T. Judge? I sure did. That's a feather in your cap. Monty Mitchell was the other one who won. He's very funny too. I. Monty Mitchell was the other one who won. He's very funny, too. I miss Monty. Hey, Monty.

So we get a little we get a little glimpse of Gwen's shop. I think it's really funny. The name of the shop is Seinman products, Seinman products. It's like we have a crazy guy, but the store is called Seinman. This is not Watson's. Get out of here. For Seinman, I think you're a wolf. called Sane Man. This isn't for you. That's Watson's. Get out of here. Get out of here. It's for sane men.

I think you're a wolf. So he goes, he breaks into Gwen's store and he tries to get her to run away with him and he sees that she has the mark too. She's got the mark. So she, I think in the werewolf lore, whoever has the mark, they're going to be the next victim. I think it's why Bella freaked out so much when Jenny had it,

it's because he knew he was gonna kill her. Yeah, the pentagram is the sign that, you know, you're the next victim, which is why Bella Lugosi freaked out. I love that scene so much, just because of the weird, unnatural dialogue that's happening when he's like, I'm going away, and she said, away? I actually, I have the audio of it.

I love it. Here it is. I'm going away. Away? But why? I gotta go. I can't stay here any longer. Let me go with you.

I'll fetch a few things to be back in a minute. No, no. I love the breathy. I've heard terrible things about away. It and be back in a minute. I love the breathy. I've heard terrible things about Away. It's so hot in Away. There's no parking in Away? Yeah. Let me pack a bag real quick, and it's like, oh, this is going to take forever.

Oh, my god. You've seen the shop. It's going to be wild. I want to do that. Next time someone says something disappointing, I'm gonna be like, but break up with me? But why? But why? But let me go with you, but I'm breaking up with you, but where? Next time you break, if you do the breaking up, just say, I'm going away.

I'm going away. And see if they say, away. Just where? Where? That's a great way to break up. If they say, away! Where? Where? It's a great way to break up. So he kind of like knows, he kind of knows that, you know, he's like kind of destined to kill her. He gives her this like charm

that this Romani woman gave him. His dad straps him to a chair, yet some more hot dad on Sunstuff. Yeah, daddy. Little dad, giant son. Tiny little daddy. The D in BDSM stands for dad. And the B stands for boy son.

Anyway, whatever. Podcasts are just talking. Just talking, it's over. So they go kind of the whole town has been every pipe smoking suited man in this town, every man wearing a suit smoking a fucking pipe it rules. They all kind of go out looking for the looking for the werewolf. Oh, doubling back to just like weird phrasing in this movie. Jenny and Gwen at an earlier scene explained the like werewolf lore to Larry

who doesn't know anything about it. And he's like, wait, so let me get this straight. A man turns into a wolf and then they're like, everybody knows about werewolves. It's such a funny like, you dummy. I mean, it's in the dictionary. We saw that at the beginning. Oh, that wasn't me reading.

I can't read. I'm like, yeah, if he doesn't know it, who was reading the dictionary at the beginning. Oh, that wasn't me reading. I can't read. I'm like, yeah, if he doesn't know who was reading the dictionary in the beginning and whatever. Us. Yes, the audience. I didn't know about werewolves. Oh, no, my penis fell out again. Oh, man.

When's the fly go up or down? My were penis. Where do I put the straw in my juice box? Were penis? Their penis. Their penis. Oh, daddy There penis. There penis. Oh daddy. Dad, trap me again. I want to come on the highway. Small dad, help me.

So he changes into the wolf man. He attacks Gwen and Gwen is saved by his own dad, his dad with the silver cane that he bought from Gwen's shop. He kills his own, his last son, so both his sons have died in hunting accidents. Crazy. Tragic. And it just ends with Gwen going, Larry! And like that's the last one in the movie.

That's it. Yeah, I love- Well, it's that guy's fault for making a baby with a giant woman. That's true. That's it. I love- Well, it's that guy's fault for making a baby with a giant woman. That's true. That's true. Oh yeah, we never get to, I wonder what Larry's giant mom is like. Maybe she's like a Frankenstein's monster.

Mary. Mary made Larry. The thing is, I'm kind of a giant woman. Yeah, yeah. It was me, I made the Larry. I could see you making Larry. Yeah, the next time they reboot this thing, you could play Wolfman's mom.

What I love about this- Larry, Larry's my son. Sailor, sailor moon. What I love about these movies from this time period is they didn't have end credits, so the movie just ends. They're so abrupt. Yeah, just like, well, that's it. And there's something I love about that, because you're watching, you know,

nowadays you're watching something and as the time is going, you're just like, oh, there's only 20 minutes left. That's only really 10 minutes if you include credits and behind the scenes bullshit. And this one, it's just like, nah, man,. Once it's over they just turn the lights on in the theater and they well and then I think Stay tuned for a Bugs Bunny cartoon and some news about Hitler Another kind of thing about this movie is it's kind of about how like America is afraid of Europe and it's oh, yeah

That's okay. Yeah, I can see 1941. That's kind of about that. All right. The original ending to the movie was, oh, Larry, anyways, we should not get involved in foreign wars. And then it ends. And she looks right down the barrel of the camera.

Right, exactly. And it's like, oh no, we got an America first-er over here. Oh boy. Oh boy. Well, yeah, that's the wolf man. Hey, it's time for Hunk Watch. Oh. Oof.

It's Hunk Watch. So many shoes from. Nobody! I got, I have a, I have a, Good hunk. I have a hunk, I have a hunk. Oh, okay. This is a minor hunk in the movie.

I'm a minor player, but I think he really shines in his one scene. The Gravedigger. I think the Gravedigger, very good looking guy, very smartly dressed. He is smoking a pipe, as all men are in this movie. Looks like he could be like a road musician with Mumford and Sons.

He kind of has that like, you know, Western fashion. I think he's a good looking, good looking dude with a good job. I'm kind of into that dog. You could dig my hole if you know what I mean. Hey, I don't. I think I've been. I don't either. I've never had sex.

No one knows. I'm into that dog. Dog's good, it's a cute dog. Can I fuck that dog? Can I fuck the dog? Can I fuck that dog? Can I fuck that dog? I'm going Bela Lugosi. Yeah, okay. I agree. He's fuckable. I mean, yeah, he was one of the original spooky hunks. It was one of the most, I don't know, impactful performances

in the movie for me. I honestly think the acting was pretty good even with our big like clunky guy who was our main character. I will say that his performance when he feels bad that he killed uh yes that kid it really did make me like well up a little bit. Yeah I was sad for him. Yeah there's a couple good acting moments in this movie. I agree I think that scene is really good. There's a scene where one of the Romani women is saying a prayer over Bela Lugosi's dead body. And that's a pretty affecting scene. There's a little moment that takes me out of it.

She's saying this prayer, this pre-written prayer, and then she says something about, go to the other side, my son. I'm like, he was your son? You're the same age. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At that point, I was just like, ages back in these days, everyone just looked old.

Listen, I want you to know something. I don't think it means anything ever. I've been watching Outlander. Sure. The ages, it doesn't make any sense. And I'm just like, people look like how they look. I don't know. Okay.

We're just going with it. All right, well, AJ, nothing but a number. I guess. Emily Fleming. Yeah. I look 20. Say it. Say that it's true. You look 20,ming. Yeah. I look 20. Say it. Say that it's true.

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I'll let you all go first because you haven't seen these before. You're coming in fresh. Emily, what'd you think of The Wolfman? I'm gonna give it a five. I thought it was so beautiful. It was so pretty to look at. It was short and sweet.

Yeah, short and sweet. I appreciate that. I wish there were some lingering scenes with a bunch of dudes talking about, is he a wolf man or isn't he? Could have done without it. Could have done some more cool shop stuff. Like what does she have to do to dust all that shit? I need to know.

Like there's, I feel like there were some things we coulda done with the relationship between Larry and Gwen that coulda been more interesting. But yeah, I think a five. I think it was fun and short and worth watching. Matt, what'd you think? I'm giving her a five too. All of the reasons that Emily explained

minus the part where you wanted to see dusting Didn't you want you didn't want to see dusting no, I think I'm glad I'd like windows clean getting clean Oh sure, it's getting clean. Yeah, I would have a wife. So I guess you don't know what that's like I don't dust I don't dust and I don't dust. And I don't want to hear about dusting. But yeah, I actually I was impressed with how high quality it was. I thought I was going to be watching a B movie. It didn't really feel like a B movie. So for that, I'm giving it a nice solid five. Yeah, I always I always write a little bit harder for these for these creaky old black and white movies. I love them

I'm gonna give it a seven. I I really like these I think they're like they're like I think they're fun to watch even though they are slow and boring But they are very fun to look at and yeah If you kind of like film history stuff and kind of like thinking about the you know influence and context of things It's they're a blast and yeah, I love that they've stuck around. And I love that they're free with ads. I think it's so cool to be able to go like, oh, I guess I've never seen the Wolfman movie before.

So it's an easy click. I like that a lot. So yeah, that's the Wolfman. Anybody got any plugs? Emily, anything going on? All right, I'm gonna keep telling you guys to go to mythicalsociety.com because I have my own show on there called Emily,

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