Free With Ads - True Grit (2010)

Episode Date: July 1, 2026

It's the first week of July-brary, where Free With Ads ditches the Tubis and Vudus and Plexs in favor of library apps like Hoopla and Kanopy where all you need is a library card! This week we chose the 2010 Coen Brothers film True Grit based on the 1968 novel by Charles Portis. Tune in next week when our movie will be... Cruel Intentions. ----- Pre-order signed copies of Jordan's new comic book series "The Amazing Venom" here at bit.ly/goofriends SATURDAY JULY 11th!!! Come see Matt Lieb do stand up at the Ice House in Pasadena at 8pm. Tickets are here. Emily got some more FlemGems for you at her ETSY Store. Help support this show and unlock bonus content! Become a member at https://maximumfun.org/joinfreewithads

This is free with ads, the podcast that asked the question, why pay Paramount plus nine bucks a month for a bunch of modern westerns when you can go online with your library card for free and watch a modern update of a classic Western that may not teach you about how everyone who lives in a city is either a criminal or a snowflake, but it will make you think long and hard about your dad. Daddy, father, he was a difficult man, impossible to truly know.

but his generation was taught to stand firm and suffer in silence. He did the best with the tools he had. Was he proud of me? Did he love me? Oh, Daddy, see, I'm a good boy. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is True Grit,

the 2010 adaptation of the classic novel with so many dirty beards you'd think it was filmed in the parking lot of a corn concert. With us, as always, is the super producer, the he freak Matt Lieb, hitting us with those dang old dag blasted drops. You are not, LeBeef. What's up?

Hey, it's Jew Library, everybody. Happy Jew library. So happy. A special theme month. Emily thought of the name. Such a good name. Thank you. It's a great name.

We're like, Emily thought of the name. We're like, well, we have to do it. Yes. So here we are. We are watching movies not on free with ads websites for this month, but free websites that you can access with your library cards. Right. Free without ads. Free with, and yes, no ads.

No ads on these bad boys. That's right. So, yeah, we're watching movies from Canopy and Hoopla. If not all libraries are part of these websites, but if yours is, go on there, sign up. It is free. It's cool. And when you use it, your library gets more funding because that's how libraries get their money is through use. So even if you're not headed in there to, you know, use the printer or check out books, you're still helping a cool thing in your community.

Yes. Checking out books is why I go. it's a library computer. Not for looking at pornography. Not me. No, me. You can't do that though if you want.

You can. So today's movie, I believe you watched on Canopy. And I think this is just a nice time to remind the people about, you know, something about the show. You know, a lot of people don't know this.

But when you push play on a podcast, the people don't start talking live. Podcasts are recorded in advance. That's right. That's right. They don't, yeah, you pressing play doesn't start the people talking. We aren't just sitting there waiting inside your phone. So, you know, something. We're not the musician people in Shining Time Station inside of the jukebox.

No. We don't live inside of you. So, you know, sometimes we record these episodes and the movies move around and stuff. And they're on different websites and don't yell at us in the comments because it's not on the thing. Just know that we, you know, maybe it recorded in advance. So, yeah. But today's movie, as of this recording, was on Canopy. and you should sign up for these services with your library card

because it's a cool, fun thing to do. That's right. Hey, before we talk about this movie, which is as of this recording streaming free with no ads with your library card, we're going to get to know one of our hosts in a segment we call Talk to Host. Talk to Host. This is very exciting. If you read the trades like I do, I'm a show business insider.

I'm always flipping through variety with my morning latte. That's right. So yeah, you'd love to wake up in the morning and read deadline to see. Oops. I love to see what. He got so excited for the talk to host. Read the trades. Yeah.

Sorry, guys. I just had a little sting accident. Premature sting ejaculation. You're just so stingy. I stung in my pants. Oh, good. I got to clean myself. I inked.

We. I ain't. We. Very exciting show business news. Our own Matt Lee, super producer, co-hosted this show, is in a feature film. That's right. Holy shit. That's right.

We've been putting this out there, you know, because all of us were like, we would have be in a movie. We should be in a movie. And then bam, it happened. Matt Lee fucking is in a movie. And it's not just like a movie that filmed on some, you know, back lot in Glendale. You went to Jordan, not the guy, the country. to film this movie.

That's right. Tell us about the movie, who you play and what the freaking country of Jordan is like. Okay, so the movie is called Occupational Hazards.

It is a, it was written and directed by this great Palestinian filmmaker Basil Gondor and he's done a few different movies.

One is called Thebe. One is called The Alley's. I believe Thebe was nominated for Best international picture when it came out. And this is a Palestinian comedy about a family in East Jerusalem that's getting their house basically taken from them by the Israeli government. And I play one of the people who is taking the house.

Wow. Yes. So you're playing like one of the jocks from Revenge of the Nerves? 100%. Yes. You're like, you're the ogre of this movie. I'm playing one of the. The, you know, like the blonde, uh, bully skiers in a 80s ski film.

Right, right, right. And, uh, yeah, no, it's, uh, I, I play, uh, a American Jewish, uh, settler who is coming to the Holy Land in order for some great real estate. And, uh, it is, it's a really funny script. It, and what I really love about it is the fact that a lot of the time, these types of stories are, they're all important to tell, but a lot of them are, of course, incredibly sad because it's an incredibly, you know, sad situation being a Palestinian. And for me, as someone who also does a podcast about making fun of Israeli propaganda as like an

anti-Zionist Jew, I, you know, I like to, my only weapon is humor. It's the only way I know how to, like, deal with anything, right? And all the guns. And the guns. Yes. I have many, many guns as my other weapon. So many guns. Uh-huh.

Grenades. His daughter's got a little pink one. Yeah. A cute princess gun. You got to teach kids about guns at home so they don't learn about it on the playground. Yeah, that's right. Exactly. Yes, guns don't kill people.

My daughter kills people. Anyways. No, but as someone who, you know, who's coping, you know, defense mechanism is humor, I find humor to be as important, if not more palatable than, you know, drama, I guess. And the fact that this is a Palestinian comedy and the cast is incredible. You know, it's a Palestinian cast people that some people you may not know, but Haima Abbas is in it who played Marsha Roy in succession. She's like, cool star power. Yeah, yeah.

She's fantastic. and it's a really funny script and yeah Basil freaking listened to my podcast and cast me and my co-host in the movie is totally random and amazing and hilarious and I'm super excited about it

so very excited about it guys What was the country Jordan like? Jordan rules okay so Jordan is an incredible it's an incredibly beautiful country with, so I stayed in Amman, which is the capital, is like the big city there, for most of the time. It's built on a shit ton of hills. So if you want to go anywhere, you really have to be prepared to hike up maybe flights of 200 stairs in order to go a few blocks, which is fucking insane.

I got a good workout while I was there. And then also it's, you know, the people are awesome. Everyone there is like it is, it must be so culturally stigmatized to be impolite that it's almost like you cannot go anywhere without if you meet someone. They will just invite you to eat dinner with them. It is just like incredibly sweet. I like went over to some random guy's house, me and Daniel who I, who my co-ist on Bad Asbarra. We went to their house. We tried Mansaf, which is like this, it's lamb and rice and this like fermented yogurt.

And you're supposed to like eat it with your hands. And I'll be real with you. I was like, guys, you know, I love and respect every person here in this culture and this country. I'm going to eat this shit with a spoon. I am, I am a dandy. I am a dandy. I am a straight dandy. I just I can't I can't stomach the idea of making my hands that dirty

And they were all like it's fine we're all gonna eat it with a spoon too Except for this one guy who's kind of a freak about it But no it's it's beautiful it's awesome everyone there is nice and also the big surprise is so many people speak English That I I didn't even like I got to come in like a dumb ass American and just be like I know one language Can you help me and they're all like yes we can help Do you have McDonald's? Yeah, do, and they do. I bet it's pretty good too.

I had to stop myself from going to a McDonald's just because, not because I particularly, you know, like, oh, I love McDonald's, but because I was like, I wonder what McDonald's and Jordan is like. I didn't do it, but I did have a Buffalo Wild Wings there. What? Yeah, it was right near the hotel. There's a Buffalo Wild Wings in Jordan. That's great. It's actually, it's their own brand. It's a Jordan.

brand called Buffalo Wings and Rings. And it was incredible, dude. Like, they, they know what the fuck they're doing with wings and rings. Like, okay. Is it like onion rings? Is that what it is? Onion rings. They got onion rings.

They got jalapeno poppers. They got all of the shit. It just, it made me feel right at home. Did you have the jalapeno poppers? Yes. I'm a huge jalapeno popper, like, head. Me too. Were they good?

Were they good? They were delicious. And they have, like, a very special, like, type of. of jalapeno that I've never had anywhere else that grows, I guess, just in Jordan or in the Middle East. And it's like a thin one. It's like a half sereno pepper, half jalapeno pepper. And it was baller.

Super good cheese. Check it out. It was dope, dude. The food there is incredible. Everything was great. And everyone was really nice. And I saw a nice picture of you on a camel. I went on a camel, guys.

Whoa. I went on a camel that was in the south. Petra. Petra is an old, old ancient. ancient city. It used to be the treasury, I believe. You might have seen it from Indiana Jones and the last crusade. They're like running through there. Okay. Um, they shoot a bunch of desert movies in Jordan too. Like if you've ever seen, uh, Dune or if you've ever seen Star Wars or the Martian or fucking anywhere where there's like a giant desert expanse. It's like,

oh, that's, that's Wadi Rum. That's what that is. So yeah, it was pretty sick, guys. Uh, it was pretty dope. I'm very excited. The movie's not going to come out till next year, I'm sure. But very excited that, you know, I got to be in a Palestinian comedy. So I hope. Can I ask what, what, can I know what your costume looked like? I dressed up as, in the most, like, tourist version of myself. So I wore a hat that has like a big long back. You know those like, it's like a hat that has got a flappy end. Oh, to like cover the sun on your neck or whatever? So you don't burn your neck.

It's a mullet, but a hat. Yeah, it's like a mullet hat, exactly. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, as soon as you see it, I know that once we cover it on this podcast, I will get the worst hat. What a thrill to be the man who wears the worst hat. I'm the man. You know what? And I am also.

Tallest guy I'm both For sure I hate to I hate to Just get off your Very exciting news for a second But you're playing those things

Back to back Reminded me that I do feel like I Let everybody down Last week when we revealed Silent Hill Sure Because pyramid head

Is probably the guy Who is the tallest guy With the worst half Oh that's nice The first time It's ever happened On the show So

calling that out right now. That's fair. But hey, we got a person in the road sting. So that's true. We never get to use that one. So, yeah. Well, Matt, we're very excited for you. We are very excited to maybe review the movie on the show.

Should it be posted on Zumo play? I can only hope. Dumbass website. Put me on To be on To be. If I could just get on Tooby, I could die a happy man. To be on Tubey. Listen, we're all on Tooby, whether you know it or not. Oh, that's right.

True. Yeah. mythical is there's 24-7 the good mythical morning the show that all three of us are on there is a to be and Pluto channel so like people take pictures and send it to me they're like I'm at a laundromat

and you're on the TV that's crazy that means I accidentally unbeknownst to me I've already lived my dream and can die yes yeah fun don't die what an anti-climate we need you to edit this episode that's true

I can't no dying today well Before we all pass away, we should do one more episode about true grit. Yes. Very exciting. So I'll check in. Has anybody seen this? Has anybody seen the John Wayne movie or has anybody read the book?

I have never seen the John Wayne movie and I've not read the book because you know me. Anchorage though, I came up with the word. That's right. I hope that makes up for my lack of reading. Yes, it does. But yes, I saw True Grit and I have a fun story about it, kind of. You saw a fun story about seeing this version? No, just about the movie.

Okay, yes, please. I, when I graduated college, I moved back to Nashville for a little while. Did stand up for three years. Oof, anyway. And I did this regional or community theater show called My First Time. And it's kind of like the vagina monologues, but it's a. about people losing their virginity. Okay.

There was one of, I didn't get to do this one, but there was one lady who talked about, um, how they would shake up a, a bottle of Coca-Cola and shove it in their pussy as birth control after they had sex. Okay. Okay. Okay.

I got that. Yeah. And they, it was really emotional. Like the monologue was super emotional. And I was like, this is the craziest shit. Whatever.

Anyway, so I did that play at the Dark Horse Theater in Nashville, Tennessee. But it's an old. church the Dark Horse Theater. It's really cool. But there's like multiple theaters inside of it. One day when we were rehearsing in the basement is where they were holding the auditions for the little girl for True Grit. Oh, check it out. So I'm sure they did auditions in different cities, but in Nashville they were like I was like, well, what's going on? They're like it's a Cohen Brothers movie. It's like a Western and they're auditioning like young girls. I'm like, how young? I'm like, I'm 23. I'm like, I'm 23.

in my pussy. I'm ready, ready. I could just... I'm literally up there talking about like fucking in the back of a car and I'm like, I can play a little girl with braids. Let me do it, Paul. I could put on Paul's hat.

Yeah, exactly. But I, and I did, like, you had to cross down there to get to the dressing rooms and stuff and I could hear them, like, there were people waiting in line to go in. And I was like, what if I just got in line and just went? I'm not here for that part, but I'll do anything else.

there's not marry many women in this movie except for that little girl but yeah so that was a cool thing and then I saw the movie and I was like wow this girl is awesome like it's an incredible performance and you have to find a kid that age who can do that dialogue

is wild yeah and just like I don't know be likable and annoying at the same time she's so good it's an incredible performance and she's in sinners as well kind of doing a similar accent and sinners, so that's kind of fun.

Oh, yeah. No, I know. I really like her in the Disney Plus Hawkeye show. She plays the other Hawkeye. And, you know, like that Marvel dialogue can sound real bad coming out of a bad actor. She fucking nails it. She's so good, dude. I hope that we're going to see more of her.

I know that we are, but I'm, I think that she'll be around forever, but in like ebbs and flows. Yeah, that's right. Her name is Haley Steinveld. Yeah, she's cool as hell. Yeah. Hey! You know, because it sounds like... Yeah.

What's the deal with my paw being murdered by Cheney? You guys ever had your dad killed by Tom Cheney, and he goes to join Lucky Ned Pepper? What kind of name is Lucky Ned Pepper? And I got a missing California gold piece. What's up with that? I just have those ready. I don't know why. great. No, thank you for having those at the ready.

That's right. So, so yeah, let's, oh yeah, I should say I've, everybody seen it. I have seen this version as a white man who's been to college. I have to see every Cohen Brothers movie so I can rank them with other white men who have been to college. That's right. You just have to. And I've read the book a couple of times. The book's one of my favorites. Really? Oh, really? I did not know that. And most of the dialogue from the, this movie is just from the book. Wow. It's wild because it's so Cohen Brothers-y, but like... It is.

Apparently, they are writing Charles Portesey, so there you go. How old is the book? Is it really old? It's from the 60s, yeah. So I think when the John Wayne movie came out, it was like a current hit book or something. So, anyway. And the book's terrific. There's a great audio book version of it that's a great narrator does all the characters.

It's fantastic. Yeah. And I had seen the movie. So I never read the book, never saw the original. And so I was very excited that we chose this because... Well, you chose it. When I say we, I meant me. I'm very excited that me chose this because it's just...

One of those movies that I was like, you know what? It's been a minute and I'd love to revisit it. Yeah. Well, yeah, let's talk about it. It starts out with a Bible verse. You know the movie's going to be good when you get a little Bible verse on screen. The Wicked Flea. when no men pursueth.

What? Crazy. So true. Yeah, so true, man. We get a little voice over. I also flee when no, like I'm always kind of fleeing too. Sure. I mean, aren't we?

I'm not even wicked. I just am paranoid. I've got flees. That's right. I've got flees. And no men pursueeth. Yeah. It's stupid.

Very nice. Very good. Good show. Good podcast. Yes, that's a great podcast. It really is good. Good. So this, you get a little voiceover.

Haley Steinfeld playing Maddie, talking about how her father was killed by the coward Tom Cheney. So she's like going into town to like deal with her father's murder. Like he was shot at a hotel in another town. So she goes to the Undertaker. Love an Old West Undertaker. This is a great kind of guy, great kind of guy to pop up in a movie.

He really wants her to kiss that corpse. He sure does. He keeps reminding her you can kiss him. It would be all right. I think that's like a new feature of the embalming, like, chemicals that he's got. It's like, you could kiss them now. It used to be that you could not kiss them. People were dying left and right, but now I got some good chemicals.

You would get lip fever should you kiss a corpse embalmed incorrectly. Have you guys ever heard of, so there's like kind of creepy, true crime legend stuff. And there's like stories of women who like go to the doctor with this crazy. rash around their mouth and it's like really bad and they're like we don't know why why is this happening and then they test it and then they're like have you been on a date with someone new recently she's like yeah and we kiss and it's like this is the bacteria that you only get from like kissing a dead corpse that happens you guys that's it well that's what they say on the internet that's not you heard on podcast must be true of heard on podcast also when a later

Lady wears a green ribbon around her neck and then she takes it off. Her head falls off. It's the same thing. And yes, and finally, welcome to the world of AIDS. Remember that one? Yes, I do. Anyway, so yeah, she does not kiss her dad's corpse, but she wants to find a law man to kill the guy who killed her father, Tom Chaney.

So she goes to kind of like the head law guy, the sheriff of the town. And she's like, is there, you know, is there a marshal there who can do this for me? It's a great fucking scene where the mar-this is right out of the book, too. This is just the dialogue from the book. That's so cool. So the dialogue in the book is like snappy. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, it is.

That's so cool. Yeah, the marshal is like kind of describing all the, or the sheriff is describing all the marshals she could get. and like he describes all these competent men and in the middle she's like rooster cogburn is a pitiless man and like talks about what a just a mean piece of shit he is yeah exactly I have all these competent guys you can use or this fucking mean piece of shit and he brings in his men though he brings him in or he kills him dead or alive yeah that's true but all of the

the competent people he lists it kind of feels like a video game where it's like choose your player and it's like And it's like, I want to be Blanca. We have a Comanche guy who's like, he knows the territory, like the back of his hand. No, Spanish guy with a claw. Yeah, like pick that guy. The first guy said it. Great.

Well, the last guy is great because he's like he's got a heart of gold. And he'll sometimes, you know, if he lets one go, he does it because he believes that it's the right thing to do. And then she's like, get me the murderer. Yeah. She is. Drunk murderer. This, here's, so we love the Cohen brothers, of course. I mean, watching this movie, it's like, God, nobody has style.

And like this, it's just, oh, Wes Anderson wishes he was these guys. Like it's, because sometimes the dialogue, I was like, this is feeling a little Wes Anderson sometimes. And I'm like, that motherfucker could never, sorry, no offense. Love Wes Anderson. I know. And it's like they are, you know, and they do have some movies that are like a little too fussy and a little too weird. I'm thinking of the lady killers where like.

I've never seen that. I want to see it really bad because how... I don't think it's a bad movie, but it is like... People trashed it. It is like their version of like a little too cute, a little too like, but this is just like our dads would love this movie. Oh, yeah, no. It's just a straight up Western, but that it is like elevated because of the great dialogue

and the great acting. And Jeff Bridges, but also, yeah, me and my dad watch Westerns. It's like something we do. So I talked to him on the phone last night, was telling him we're going to watch True Grit. He goes, oh, true grit. I know. And this is like the intersection of like normie dad and like fussy college film weirdo. Like this is the movie everyone can agree on.

But also I feel like young girls like kids, like 10 year old girls could like maybe watch this with their dad. I thought so too. There's a scrappy young girl in this and she's really fun and smart. But she did remind me a little bit of Jennifer Jason Lee in Hudsucker. proxy. There's like, because another great female

scrappy character. They love scrappy female characters. If you see the most recent season of Fargo, Juno Temple

plays a very, like, very much like this. So. They are maybe not involved with those, but because it is inspired by it

for sure, because she was a scrappy little girl character. So yeah, no, this, oh man,

I'm stoked. Yeah. So yeah. So she, she hires rooster cogburn he's a drunk the first time she meets him he's like in an outhouse and he like tells her to come back very good scene he was working hard too i was like leaving the fuck alone i thought he's gonna die in there i know he's like he's trying to pinch one out she's like bothering yeah she finally gets him he's coming out of this like he's testifying at a trial where he like

killed a bunch of guys and they kind of catch him on this thing where they're like well did you move the body and he's like i don't remember um but he's just very blasé about it he remembers you can Tell he does it all the time. Yeah, he's just trying to get out of there. So, yeah, but she comes up to him, you know, like in the courthouse and says that you're a man with, you're a man with true grit. Yeah, Leonardo DiCaprio meme. There's the title. Yeah, that's right.

All right, let's do it. A movie, I don't know. That's the movie title. Yeah. Oh, that is a good sting dab because it happens in very few of movies. Yeah, I love a good titular shout out. And she, he starts to roll, this is just such a fucking great, he, he starts to roll a cigarette and she's like, give me that.

And she like does it for him. That was cool. You could tell she did it for her dad. Yeah. And then, yeah, that's great. It kind of like recurs throughout the thing. She's always rolling a cigarettes for him. It's very cute.

She's a superhero, I feel like. She's like a comic book hero. The amount of, the amount of skills and like knowledge she has about random shit. About the law. Yeah. Yeah. She spends most of this movie. be just like quoting the law like including knowing like the Latin terms for things it is it's such

a she's a genius she's talking about lawyer daggett she apparently which maybe this guy doesn't exist I think oh that's right he does call him on the phone yeah yeah you do hear he do hear his voiceover in a letter or something yeah that's what it was it was a voiceover in a letter probably not a phone but yeah it was um and her rolling have you guys do you guys know how to roll a joint or roll a cigarette. I have never been able to do it. I probably couldn't do it. I got shaky hands.

I can't do it. I feel like such a... I can barely eat soup with a spoon. So I cannot roll a siggy. Yeah, but her negotiation skills too, this little girl. Have you guys negotiated for things and won? I bought a car recently and tried to be kind of tough about it. And I think I eventually got a good price.

But I did this thing where I, so here was my technique that I learned from Reddit was I called an out-of-state car dealership, told them I was going to, told them I was going to come into the guy. I was going to go to, I was like, oh, it's cheaper in Arizona. I'll go to Arizona and I'll get the car there just to get somebody to send me a quote. And then I sent this quote to a bunch of car dealerships in the area to see if anybody could beat it. And it's and it led to this thing where I had all these like scumbags calling me and going, we'll beat it, we'll beat it. And then like somebody, I'll be. Yeah.

So it was like kind of a fun auction thing. It did lead to me picking a car, driving to Downey, getting there and them going, we don't have the car. I just really mad and stormed out. But I eventually did get the car at that price. But that's like the only wheeling and dealing I've ever done in my life. Yeah. I can't do it. Like the getting a car thing, of course, I don't drive.

And so I don't know anything about that process. It sounds like, I don't know, like hieroglyphics, like figuring out how to buy a car. That's so smart, though. I hope that people enjoy that little tidbit. You're welcome. It's a good idea. Fans. I've negotiated things in my life and it worked out.

And then it is not most of the time. But one day I'll get good at it. this little girl made me go, all right, you got to just not give up. You got to just keep going and annoy the shit out of people. Just refer constantly to lawyer daggett and people will assume. Lawyer Daggett and different statutes of the law that allow you to resell. To get a horse a cheap. I would have to read if I wanted to do that.

Just make it up. Just learn a little bit of Latin just enough to fool a guy like that horse stealer. So yeah, so she puts one over on this horse dealer. She like, yeah, like, you know, outlaws him. She gets a horse named Blackie to go on this adventure with Rooster Cogburn. And at her like boarding house where she's staying, there's a dude smoking on the porch. And it was one of those like jump scares. Oh, I forgot he was in this.

It's fucking Matt Damon. Matt Damon, baby. LaBeath. Spelled L-E-B-O-U-F. but he says it's how it's spelled This was like Shia Labouf, yeah Yeah, right, right This is his great grandfather

It's spelled like Labouf, but it's Labif They make it, they do a thing about it in the book Where she's like, it's spelled like this But he always said it like So he's like saying his own name wrong And I, okay, it's such fucking great casting Matt Damon is such a funny dumb guy He just, you know, we know him as like

Being pretty good at playing generic heroes But like he is such a funny, dumb guy. And I think this just like is such a great use of him. He's so fucking good in this. He was comedy. He was kind of the comedic he was hilarious in it. And yeah like yeah. It's great watching him play the type of character who's just really

into the fact that he is like a Texas Ranger. Right. Like I mean one of his last lines is he just goes Ever Stalwart as as they're riding away. It's just so funny. It's a great character for him to play. It is. And the his like mutton chops.

What is it where the mustache attaches into the mutton chops? I don't know. It's an old time president facial hair. Super cool. But he's also kind of a creep in the beginning. He's a creep. And then later on you're like,

he's not that big of a creep. Like he's like he's a creep but. Yeah, he kind of redeems himself at the end. Oh, yeah. That people like, I like the characters in this, the two male like, you know, Jeff Bridges and him. Because you think you got him pegged on who they are

and what they're all about. And they swap. They do swap. They reveal like sides of themselves that you wouldn't necessarily expect. And I really love it. She's who she is though. Yeah. So he is also after Tom Cheney.

And this is great. This is a very Coen Brothersy thing, this kind of joke, this joke where you get a little bit of information but not enough. He's saying he is after Tom Cheney because he shot a senator over an argument about a dog. And then he does not say anything else about it. You hear him talking about it a little bit later, but I love these kinds of jokes where someone just says something

that needs so much more explanation but doesn't do it. Anyway, it's just saying stuff I like from this good movie. There's a funny podcast for you to listen to? I don't know. I think we could be both interesting and funny at the same time.

We possess multitudes. Exactly, yes. And, you know, maybe people aren't listening for comedy. You have some weird thing where you think I'm your friend. Well, they're here for car dealership tips. That's true. They're here for car shopping.

Let's be honest, we're, this is their sleepy time. That's right. You're just here. They're falling asleep right now. Soothing, soothing. Not because we're boring, but because that is the number one. That's, yes. This is a number one compliment for any podcast.

ASMR. I don't know. I would be very interested freebies. That's what we call our friends, our friends and fans. Yeah, yeah. When do you listen to our podcast? Do you? Morning,

morning, night, lunch, like, or when you're on the treadmill, like, when are you listening to this? That's right. Ooh, does anyone fuck to this? Oh, my God, if you fucked to this. Okay. I'm so mad if you fucked to it, don't do it.

If you fuck to this, you need to move the body that's in the basement. You have to move it somewhere else. They're after you. I don't want to. So, Anyway, oh, you know, I think Jeff Bridges Probably the tallest guy in this movie.

What do you think? Oh, I think you're probably right. Tallest guy. Anyway, okay. So he's kind of like joins the party, LeBeef. He's like, you know, he's like a tough talking asshole. Jeff Bridges doesn't like him. LeBeef tells a story about having to drink water from a horse's hoof print.

And Jeff Bridges is just like, oh, every Texas Ranger tells me that story. I guess you all just love drinking from footprints. Yeah, they are at it with each other from the beginning. Yeah, they're talking about who he served under. I guess Rooster Cockburn is supposed to be a Confederate ex-Confederate soldier. At one point, like, they're just arguing over, like, whose general was better. Right. It's like the arguments they get into are so petty, too.

They get into a shooting contest at one point. It is amazing watching Matt Damon do. jokes about the fact that Jeff Bridges' character has one eye. Uh-huh. Yeah, no, and it's like you have this little girl that's pretending to be an adult. And then these two grown men that act like children. Just acting like little kids. Yeah, it's really great.

It's really fun. And yeah, and you could kind of tell, like, that's the role she played in her family. That's why she's fucking there. Like, that's why no one else in her family is doing this shit. Because she's just like the family grown up. And like, there are families like that where like the, there's just a kid who takes charge. And you can tell she's just doing it for these guys too I think she's doing it for the love of the game too

I think she was so Oh she likes it yeah I think Yeah I think she loved her dad so much And then he was kind of like this That she's like he would want me to like Do exactly what he would do I'm gonna go do it Yeah

But yeah it's you really hate Lebeef In the beginning because he Kind of does this creepy thing Where she's sick in bed at the hotel And he's just sitting there in front of her in the room and you're like, ew, but I don't remember what they talked about, but at the end he was like,

I could have stolen a kiss, but I didn't. So ugly. He's like, you're so ugly that I didn't do it. And I'm like, yeah, okay, that's one reason to not kiss a 14 year old. But sure. But then he like spanks her with a switch because he's like, she's mouthing off to him and he's getting his ass handed to him because he's an idiot.

Like she's smarter. And I was like, I hate the beef. And then towards the end I'm like, it kind of comes around. Like, oh, it'll be so okay.

Also, on this, on this, like, theme of she's doing what her dad would do, before she leaves the boarding house, she gets his gun, and she puts on his clothes, and his hat doesn't,

is too big for her, so she puts in a little newspaper so the hat fits. That was cool. And her outfit is maybe one of my favorite outfits in a movie ever. Yeah, she looks awesome.

That green, like long kind of wool felt jacket, looks like a, like a Pendleton type thing. And then the, big like brown leather belt over the overcoat. I was like, God, this is a cool movie. Anyway.

So yeah, so they, on the little adventure, they find a house where there's just like two, two guys, two scuzzy guys, classic big guy, little guy combo. Yeah, classic like Bugs Bunny gangsters, one big guy, one little guy. A little guy played by Domo Gleason, Domehall Gleason. Oh. His dad, Brendan Gleason, pops up in our bonus content for this month. Fun connection.

Okay, you're going to have to tell me everything that you just said. I don't know what's going on. Oh, so Domo Gleason, you would recognize him. He's kind of a that guy from that thing. Okay. He was in the new Star Wars movies. He was in a black mirror. You've seen him before.

All right. Yeah. Spunky little. Irish guy and Brendan Gleason is you know famous I feel so bad that's you should not you're not know this just you'll know

both of them names it's yes they both are in the family business I know our fans yeah are definitely not Googling this in this moment probably not but that's okay so a big guy little guy they were kind of like you they were kind of

in with the gang they start arguing and and start killing each other. The little guy, Domel Gleason's fingers get chopped off, he gets stabbed, and then rooster shoots the other guy. And I'm just like,

when this happened, I'm like, oh yeah, in Cohen Brothers movies, when someone dies, you fucking feel it. Like, these are just,

these are just like guys who had one scene. They're like random goons, and but like their deaths are very like, I don't know, weighty, like, you know, you feel bad for him. The guy's like,

don't let the wolves eat me. He's just like, scared the wolves are going to eat his body. And he's negotiated. with him as he's saying he knows he's going to die and he's still negotiating. There's a lot of negotiating in this fucking movie. But yet it's like also Westerns, you feel it harder because you're like, oh, fuck that death

would suck. Like you feel it in your bones. Like have you guys heard that there are tons of rattlesnakes in the city of Los Angeles right now? Oh, I have heard that. I hadn't heard that. I didn't want to hear that. I'm sorry. Might just be that local news thing where it's like,

shark attacks, killer bees. But I do think there have been random out. Well, it's like I'm hearing that it's just on the trails. Like if you go hiking. Don't hike. No trail. That's fine. The three of us will be just fine.

Just hang out at Airwan. Yeah. But that's crazy to me. I don't know. Anyway, there's a lot of snakes in the, in westerns, especially in this movie. There is one. So they have their kind of like first lead as to where, where the Ned Pepper gang featuring Tom Cheney is.

And this kind of leads to the final shootout. So why don't we take a little break? We'll come back. We'll finish it up. Hey, we're back. It's free with ads. It's true library. We're talking about true grit.

Okay. So yeah, so they kind of like, you know, they kind of know where to find the Ned Pepper gang. There's this kind of original shootout. They get somebody. They don't know if it was him. And then they kind of go out. out and they know he has a silver claim,

but he's not there. So everybody kind of just fucking gives up. And then Maddie goes to the water to like get, just go to the river to get water for the horses, and she fucking sees him. He's right there. Another, oh my God, I forgot he was in this jump scare, Josh Brolin.

Hell, yes. Kind of doing a Buffalo Bill voice. I love it. The re talks is great. I'm doing this voice. I'd fuck me. It was a little like Jeff Bridges' voice, too. And I was like, oh, they're the two drunks.

So that's just how you sound. I think it was old timey, old Western drunk. And I love that they do, because everybody in this movie could just coast on their persona. But like everybody's got a little take. Everybody's got a little guy. It's good. I love that they made choices. It's great when an actor makes choices.

It's true. Everybody. And that's the thing. There's big, like, weird kind of campy swings in acting choices in Cohen Brothers movies. and this didn't disappoint. There are plenty of those. Yeah. The camp just makes it better.

There's something the way Cohen brothers do it, that it's like the fact that, you know, we wait this whole movie to see Tom Cheney, and it's played by Josh Brolin, and he's got like a catch phrase. What? Yeah, the throughout, he just keeps going like, oh, nothing ever goes my way or something.

He says the same line multiple times. I was like, I love this. I love that this was the choice. And in their game, they have a guy who just makes edible noises. I don't think this is the book. They have a little squat guy who when you see him, he's making turkey noises.

And then when they're riding away, someone's like, do the donkey. And he does a donkey noise. And they all laugh. This guy is just there to do animal impression for them. Is he like a traveling minstrel of the West? No idea.

Instead of doing songs about your travels, he just does animal impressions. Animals he's seen. But yeah, this is great. The whole gang full of just like, hilarious specific scumbus. Of course, Ned Pepper played by Barry Pepper. That's funny.

Yeah. Yeah. That's that guy's real name? His real name is Barry Pepper. Wait, is it Ned Pepper in the book? It is. Lucky Ned Pepper is the name of the, so yeah, it's a weird thing of like, I wonder how they, if they landed on Barry Pepper. Wouldn't it be funny if we got Barry Pepper?

I mean, he's great in it. He's so good. He's so underrated as an actor. He is. And you know what I think is? is I think it's because he was in battlefield earth. I really think it's because he's the human in battlefield

earth and I think you just don't get that stink off you. That sucks because he's terrific. He's great in this too. I think that he could after he could come back like everybody will forget about that. Also we should totally do battlefields earth. I've never seen it.

That's what the new universe, I haven't seen it either. That's what they should replace Waterworld. Yes. They're just finding another disaster Find another huge bomb To make a stuts show out of Oh yeah

Or Gile The Gilely stage experience It's turkey time It's just like explosions of wet Hell yeah Explosions of Wet Is that a line I've never seen Gile

Is it it's Turkey Time from Gilly I didn't know that I just like to A character is trying to get pregnant And convinces somebody to do it With the turkey baster? Yeah well well she's

Yeah, kind of. She goes, it's turkey time, gobble, guppel. Jesus. We got to do that movie. What should we watch first? Gile or Battlefield Earth? I don't know. We'll watch them at the same time and see if they sink up.

So yeah, so this is kind of like the final shootout. They kidnap Maddie, but she is able to, like, shoot, she's able to shoot Brolin with her dad's gun, but she falls in a hole with a bunch of rattlesnakes. It's bit by a snake. You know, Jeff Bridges goes down there. He, like, sucks out the poison. Fucking, oh, and then Matt Damon gets, like, the kill shot on, on Ned Pepper.

And, yeah, poor Pepper. That was a cool scene about him, like, aiming. It's great. I know, and you don't, and you see him shoot, and then you're just like, it takes a minute before you see the little figure off in the distance just slump over. Yeah, wonderfully, wonderfully shot action scene. The speed of bullets. then versus now like how fast is that bullet it did take a minute like 45 minutes to get over there um

so yeah it's a wonderful scene and then so uh you know jeff bridges is trying to get trying to get her to help because she has the snake bite they leave damon behind um he like so to make it go faster he like stabs little blackie they're writing little black oh god i hated this part little blackie just just collapses and dies. It's awful. It's the only time where Haley Steinfeld's character cries. Oh, I know. Yeah.

Like, there's multiple times where she is, like, certainly going to die in this movie. Like, you know, she's left alone with Tom Cheney. She gets caught by Ned Pepper. Any of these moments would make most little girls cry. But instead, it was the death of her horse. Well, it's her horse that she negotiated for. Like tooth and nail.

She bought this for herself. Also, it's alluded to that this is a really good horse. They're watching her cross a river. People are like, whoa, your horse is a badass. Legend. Legend of horses. Artex, fuck you. Little Blackie all the way.

Drake turning away from Artex, Drake turning toward Little Blackie. As far as dead movie horses we like. Oh, you know I'm doing that meme in the way. The socials. Do the meme. You know I'm going to do it. Everybody would like that meme. Hell yes.

Hors stuff. But they like, you know, last minute make it to like this house. We didn't mention this guy. This is, I think, I'm pretty sure this guy's an invention for the movie. A guy in a bear pelt who says he's like a dentist and a veterinarian. Yes. He's the greatest. He said he's like, y'all need medical assistance.

Yeah, he says this. He says, do either of you need medical attention? Probably. The most. the most standout character of this whole movie. He rules. And it does not come back. It is not necessary.

You think he's going to save the day at the end, but no, he's just there for one scene. Yes, he exists for that scene. For me, I liked it because it reminded you, there is no one to help you out here, except for each other. And that's the doctor if you find one. That's what you're dealing with. The world's craziest guy. You got a hope to find. Who's trying to buy a corpse off you.

Exactly. Yeah. And then he's like, I pulled it. out all his teeth, you're welcome to have what's left. And you're like, uh, why the teeth? Well, because he could get something for it. I love, I love that he,

he traded for it. He traded two dental mirrors and a bottle of expector. Damn, man, that was really good. And he's wearing like a, this huge bearhead, like, I have my bear skin. Oh yeah, they go,

do you, do you, do you, we're looking for shelter and he goes, well, I've got my bearskin. I'm like yikes. Yikes. Also, the teeth thing, I wonder, because you guys know that when I knocked out my front teeth from the roots, they came out completely whole. I didn't ship them.

They slid out. I hit the floor on an angle and they slid out and were whole on the floor. And we put them. They could just put them back in? They did. That's the thing. And I'm wondering, does that work with other people's teeth? Like, was that a thing?

But yeah, no, they put them back in. And for seven years, they were good. And then one of those died and they had to come out. I had those gray teeth. I would have been that gray teeth girl. Like, isn't that crazy? But anyway, yeah, I was like, I wonder if people back then could put a tooth in a socket and it would regrow even if it wasn't your tooth.

I'm going to Google all this stuff, guys. Google it. Yeah, let us know. So he finally makes it to a house just like at the, you know, very last second and then we kind of get a little epilogue with Maddie doing doing voiceover. She lost her arm so we could, you know, see adult her like without an arm. Lost because of the rattlesnake poison. And she kind of loses track of both Rooster and LeBeef.

She is able to find that Rooster is like in one of these Wild West shows. Like, oh, God. I don't know. Buffalo Bill. Buffalo Bill did it. Yeah. Yeah. Those looked fun as fuck.

I bet they were great. I think they should bring those back. A lot of people accidentally died at them. 100%. Yes. Especially the cowboys themselves dying of a heart attack, you know. Oh my God. I was thinking about this though.

You know how they say if you get bit by a rattlesnake, you should like, I guess he Piss on it. Did too. Well, this is, hang on, Matt, you just read my fucking mind. So he's like, he sucks the poison out. You always hear that you're supposed to suck the poison out of a snake bite. Didn't fucking matter. She still had to lose a.

arm and then it makes me think about is that fake like how they say you're supposed to piss on a jellyfish sting? If you piss on a jellyfish then the snake venom goes away. Right. Did you guys ever? You find a jellyfish piss on it. Then the snake venom erodes. Yeah.

Does all make sense? Did you ever hear that as a kid that if you get a jellyfish sting, you should pee on it or have someone else piss on it? Like that and it's not real. You guys, it's not real. One way to find out. It's an excuse to piss on your friends. So this was just an excuse for an old man to suck on a little girl's hand.

It's like what that seems like. So yeah, so she makes to the Wild West show, asks for Rooster Cogworm, but they're like, he died. He died three days ago. And they're like, we had some very lively times. And they're like, how did you know him? She's like, we had some very lively times too. And then she found that she was buried at a Confederate cemetery, but then she had the body. moved to her family cemetery.

You can kind of tell she got rich. They don't like explicitly say it. Oh, there's no way that little girl ain't get rich. And there's a shot of his coffin going into a train with like her name written on it. That's the same as her dad's coffin going into the train. Because she's a pro now transporting a dead body. He's another. That's true.

He's another dad. Two dads. I love that scene too where she finds out like because you're not sure like, oh, I wonder what time and losing an arm did. for this person. And she finds out, you know, from this guy runs a traveling Wild West show, that, you know, her friend is dead and it's all very sad. And then next to that guy explaining this to her is another dude seated. And she, as she's leaving, she goes, keep your seat, trash. And then walks him away. I was like, I love her. I love her. She's still got it. There is a southern kind of like saying like those kind of little isms that you can do.

I was, I think I want to make a mission for myself that I say, to hell I won't more often. That's a good one. To hell I won't. Like I think, I think that's a good. We all got to do more that. Jordan has his yes mamas. I've got. Yes, mama.

My to hell I won't. She ate and left no crumbs. Eight and left. Can that be a sting? Left, no crumbs. Oh. Left no crumbs. But you have to say it with graft.

It's slowly. Yeah, that's true. Eight and left. Left no crumbs. He says Vincent Price. Hey, that's what happens in true grit. We're going to tell you what we thought of the movie. But first, we got to do the hunk watch.

It's hunk watch. You know, a lot of great. hunks in this film. A lot of filthy, a lot of dirty men. Yeah, disgusting men who have dirt on them. So, you know, maybe a little bit hard to feel sexual

about these people. For who? Who is this? You know, I will speak for myself. Speak for yourself, buddy. I am speaking for myself. I would just talking about him

made me realize how good he is. I'm going to give it to Barry Pepper. Do it. Great choice. You're right. You know, he's maybe partially. in Hollywood jail, maybe not his fault.

Barry Pepper. The cool thing about him, though, he looks like he could exist in any time period. Like, I could see him in Spartacus. I could see him in a Western. I could see him in like a noir. Like, he's, get him back in the movies unless he's done something bad

that we don't know about. Unless Barry, oh, you know, yeah, Barry, I'm looking at the Pepper IMDB right now. Yeah, let's see. He was in crawl. That's good. Ooh, that's a good one. In these maze runner movies

that I haven't seen, but they've made a couple. He's fine. He's doing great. But I feel like we'd like to see him more often. He should have been a leading man, but he, the, yeah, it was the damn El Ron Hubbard movie ruined it for him. Which is, he sucks because he's not even Scientologist.

He was just doing a movie. He was just doing a movie. He thought it was going to be Star Wars. He's like, this is going to be my Star Wars. I mean, some, like, comedians go to a cage fight on the lawn of the White House. That's true. And they're fine.

They're doing fine. So Barry Pepper should be fine. Nobody seems to care. No one gives you shit anymore. Throw Barry Pepper into one of these yellow stones. That's right. Throw him in a yellow stone. Put him at Taylor Sheridan.

Oh, he should really be in a yellow stone. That's crazy. He should be in the yellow stone. Anyway, anybody else? Any thoughts on the hunks of this film? I, like, I would fuck every, like, dude that went on this adventure. Yeah. All of them are fuckable.

I'm Bear Man. Especially that... Oh, really? Bear Man's my guy. I just feel like he's the most pleasant dude to ever just like walk into a movie and walk right out. He's having a great time. I would love to just walk into, you know, any situation and have Bear Man come up and try to sell me a fucking dead body. My favorite thing about that scene is that Jeff Bridges is getting bored with the conversation.

Like he's talking about crazy shit and he's like, Yeah He's like I can't wait to be out of this conversation I do have Okay so I do have a hunk actually Yes Oh It is the the horse guy

That she has to negotiate with multiple times Okay okay And he just the way he's getting frustrated I was like this is the Unsung performance of the movie Like that character That's a Cohn brothers ass guy That guy never seen him before in my life

Couldn't recognize him It was such a great performance and how just like exhausted he was with negotiating with this little girl was so funny. I love that guy. He's the best. Matt, any thoughts on hunks?

It's the bear man. The bear man. Oh, the bear man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yes. I think that's fucking gross, but like, fine. To each their own. Well, we are going to rank true grit

on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials when we come back. Hey, we're back. It's free with ads. We're going to tell you what we thought of true grit. But first, we want to tell you there's a new episode right around the corner of our bonus show, We Like Shows. Yeah. We like shows. Here's what we're doing. We're all going around the horn. We're all picking TV pilots, the all-time favorite stuff we're watching. Now, my pick this month, I picked Spider-Noar, the Nicholas Cage, old-time detective, Spy. Man show. Definitely felt like something we had to watch for this. Yes, I've got opinions. I suspect Emily and Matt do. Oh, we sure do.

Oh, no. Opinionese. So if you want to hear what we thought of spider noir, go to maximum fun. org slash join, or this is something I need to encourage people to do more. Get in the show notes. Get all up in our show notes. Click on the show. Links to all the stuff we talked about.

guest plugs, our plugs, and a quick link to click to join. And here are bonus stuff. Show notes or maximum fun.org slash join. Okay, true grit. One to ten, super loud commercials. Matt, since your pick, maybe we'll let you finish this off. Emily, do you want to go first? This is a tippy 10.

Easy, easy choice. It's one of my favorite, like, female heroines in movies ever. especially as a little girl. It's one of the greatest characters in fiction. Oh, 100%. Like, you know, yes. But she, this performance, like I could watch her, I could watch this movie over and over again.

It's such a delight. So, yeah. Yeah, very easy 10 for me too. I get a little bit annoyed when like online film people are like, perfect movie, perfect movie. It's like what's that? What are you talking about? Listen.

Perfect movie? It is. I feel like I have a couple of. I mean, in general, not about. this movie, but just when people say that about like speed racer, you know. Well, I think this, Jordan, that's so crazy that you say perfect movie because that's how I feel about, oh, brother, where art thou? Like, there's, I think it's not that it's the best movie. It's just that it is perfect, like a mathematical equation.

Nothing wrong with it down. A perfect movie, nothing wrong. Matt, what you think? I didn't give it a three. No, I'm kidding. No. I'm kidding. I was on my phone the whole time.

I was just like true grit. A little better than Silent Hill. More like true clits. I don't know. True clits. You need to workshop that slime. You know what? I'm not going to.

I'm keeping it. No, I give it a tippy ten, of course. It is a great movie. The performances are beyond just being good. They are all memorable. Everyone is firing on all cylinders. It is an incredibly compelling story. And it's a, you know,

know, Cohn Brothers movie. There's really not much more you could ask for in a movie. So yeah, Tippy 10. All right. Anybody got any plugs? I'd say go ahead and keep an eye on my Etsy store. It's Flemgems. We have a link for it in the show notes.

But yeah, I'm launching it like the next day after recording this, but I'm sure there's going to be shit left over because I made the most stuff I've ever made. This is about to be the biggest Flem Jems drop. It's been in two years I've never made this much stuff for a Flem Jibs drop. So get in there. Get in there. Get yourself

some jewelry. And get yourself to the Ice House. On Saturday, July 11th for a night of comedy with myself and with my wife Francesca Fiorentini. The show is called New World Disorder. Ice House is in Pasadenae and that's

a great comedy club. Please get your tickets. The link is in the show notes. All right. I am going to remind everybody to go to bit.ly slash goo friends. Bit.ly slash goo friends. That's how you order. Issues one through five of the amazing venom, the new Marvel comic series from me,

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