Free With Ads - [UNLOCKED] We Like Shows - Downton Abbey S1 Ep1

Episode Date: June 17, 2026

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Okay, here's the episode. Hey, welcome to We Like Shows. I'm Jordan Morris. I'm Emily Fleming. And I'm Matt Leeb. Thank you all for joining us here on this bonus show, where we talk about TV shows from across the stream of verse that we are watching some of our all-time favorites. Every month, a different one of us is doing the pick-in. This month, Matt Leeb, use the picker.

That's right. And what shows did you pickses? I picked for us. First of all, thank you, Gollum. No problem, judges. Did you Pixes? I picked... Stupid Matt Lebesis.

I told you he was trixie. Filthy Lebesis. All right, it's getting a little jar, jar, guys. Okay, yeah, sorry, sorry. Sorry, that was kind of bomb bad. I apologize. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing our best. So I chose Downton Abbey.

This is a British television show that somehow broke through, you know, British containment and became sort of a hit across the pond, as I say, in old London town. And I have been a huge fan of this show for a long time. Oh, I love it. I've seen it multiple times all the way through. I've seen all of the movies.

This last movie that just came out, which is the third Downton Abbey movie. My wife and I went and saw it on her birthday. That's how much we love. It's Downton Abbey Revenge of the Seth. That's right, exactly. Finally, we get to see how Darth Vader was created. He's a Duke.

But, yeah, so I love this show. And it's one of the shows that's, for me, I like, you know, when you evangelize, you know, something, because you just really wish everyone could be on the same page. with Christ. Right. That's you with Christ. You know, that's Emily with Satan. And with me, it's this show. I just, you know, I want it to be as ubiquitous as the Sopranos in terms of like references. It's not quite there yet, but I hope one day that everyone will love it the way I do. Emily, did you have a connection to this? Is this something you've watched before? I've actually watched, I've watched things like here and there because my grandmother was absolutely. obsessed with this show. She would just leave it on and then sleep in her chair. And that was like mostly what it was.

And because it was just on like PBS or something. I can't remember. It was just on TV all the time. And now you have to pay for it. But like it used to just be free. But yeah, she would, I'd just come over and she'd have it on and she like talking about it.

She like she very much wanted to be English. Like that's what she wanted to be. but so I would only watch it when we were hanging out together in her assisted living home. Yeah. But so yeah, it was good to finally watch like, okay, how did this begin? It feels very like, what was it was called like Mumford? I can't remember. Or no, something Park.

Oh, Gosford Park. Gospel of Mumford. Yes. I love the, I love the down and Abby. The show where they all go, hey. Oh, hey. Stupid it. It took five years of music where everyone was like, hey.

Yeah, I mean. People are like, this is good. This is great. So Gosford Park was written by the creator of the show. Oh, okay. Well, that makes fucking sense then. Because I saw that movie. I love that movie.

So this was a little more of that. I also love a period piece. Anything that is like, has costuming from any time before the 1970s. I'm like, yep, that's for me. So this was very cool. And I, and I, this episode was long as shit. I did not know how long this fucking show is going to be. Yeah. The episodes are usually, they're usually an hour long. This one is a little bit longer than that. Yeah. With the ads, it was super long. Yeah. Yeah. But it is worth it. It is worth it. But what about you, Jordan? Any, anything at all? I watched this on PBS when it originally.

And I do think it was my mom who recommended it to me. My mom's a huge Doughton Abbey fan. Nice. And I watched the first season and I fucking loved it and then I just stopped. And I'm like, oh, there's more Doughton Abbey. Yeah, I'll get. But I think to me, and this happens to me with TV shows sometimes, I'll watch a season and it'll end and I'll feel kind of done with it.

And I'm like, that was a story. 100%. And yeah, and it's always been one of those things. I'm like, oh, yeah, there's always. this Downton Abbey I haven't seen. There's these movies. And so yeah, I always am kind of curious to go back. But, you know, guys, there's a lot of TV these days.

Oh, boy. Yeah. That's that's kind of how. There's the bears and the pits and the severances. I don't even know whether I'm coming or going. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about heated rivalry. I don't need another season. It was perfect. It's a perfect

show. Yeah. That's kind of I'm going to get shit for this, I'm sure. But that's how I felt about Yellow Jackets. I watched one season of it. And then we started the second season and I just was like, oh, no, I don't care anymore. And then I couldn't get through it. I think I got to, yeah.

I love Yellow Jackets. You're right, Matt. I love this show. I love it too. I can't wait for the last season. But I think it does not get better. Yeah. Awesome shit still happens, but it, it, it, it,

it becomes a very uneven program. And it's still like a lot of fun, but that first season is really great. And it never figured out how to be more of the show. Yeah, for sure. But I still do love all my little buddies who eat each other sometimes. Of course.

But this show does get better. And in fact, it does it? I'm kind of interested to hear. Yeah. I think it is only around, I think the last season, it feels like it's dragging. But then there's three movies.

Two of which are. Probably because they're also fucking old. I mean, look, it is, I'm telling you guys, the show, you got to watch the whole thing. It's so good. You will not regret watching all of Downton Abbey. Oh, you guys, I feel like we were talking about Harry and the Henderson's earlier today for an episode. And we were talking about stuff that makes us cry and that like white fanging someone, like hurting their feelings and telling them to get out of here. Yeah.

There's like a little bit of a white fanging in this episode. Yeah, at the end of the episode. Mr. Bates gets kind of the big foot of this show. Yeah, he kind of gets, you know, he's kind of gets an injured foot. Yeah, exactly. A big foot with a one foot. It's fine. He likes it.

He likes to make those jokes. And by the way, you know. Mr. Bates. I have like a grand, I mean, this is. me assuming anyone who listens to the show and specifically our bonus episodes has seen all of down nabby but i have a theory about mr bates which is that he's bad and evil and um this show does uh everything um but say he's bad and evil uh and and people don't know i think he's a murderer um and a thief and a liar and uh manipulative and he i think he commits multiple murder

through the run of this show. That's my, I'm just going to put that out there. But he cried in this episode and it made me cry. It's all manipulative. When you see, well, listen, when I see like a very masculine man like, you know, like cry and he's older like that. I don't know. It just, I'm like, oh, God. No, it gets you.

This show, this show will fuck you up with emotions. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah, let's talk about the pilot of Downton Abbey. We start with the beeping of a telegraph. That's right. piece of technology that defines an era. It is changing everything.

If they made a show like this about the era now, it would just be an AI video of the rock convincing our elderly parents to send it their bank account routing number. Yeah. Technology. And I love a show or a movie or I just love a piece of fiction where the theme is here comes modernity. Yeah.

I think that's real. Yeah. I mean, it's why I love Mad Men so much. It's about like modernity fucking hitting these guys in the face and them not being prepared for it. It's like, yeah. So I like that a lot about it. We see a train.

We see a bunch of these telegraph lines kind of being put up all over this pristine English village. It is April 1912. And then I immediately knew. Did you know? I had kind of forgot about the thing that's the big like reveal. Well, did that occur to you, Emily? My birthday is April 14th

So the Titanic hit the iceberg on April 14th Oh, check out So and 1912 Because I mean, I love that movie So I just went April 1912 Because they, the telegraph They were like, oh my God Oh no

So I should But he said like I've got to run this upstairs And she goes, well, running it fast Isn't going to do anything Right, yeah Because all these people are fucking dead It's just like that's the way it is

but yeah so I knew it was going to be that and then I was like oh cool and they do mention Oh no there are limits to man's eubris there are Yeah, so all yeah But I guess they... I thought they said it was unthinkable yeah Anyway we've heard

And Abbey has electricity And that's not a normal thing which is... Yes, Stoughton Abbey Very modern, it's a modern manor house That's right We're kind of like before we kind of meet The kind of rich folks who live in Downton Abbey

We're meeting all the Yes, they're getting these telegraphs, at this point, mysterious telegraphs. There's a new girl. There's kind of a new, I think she's Irish kind of a servant girl who's kind of, she's the like audience surrogate who's like, we have to tell her what to do. Here's the fires like the thing. You know. She certainly talks enough to be me.

But it's like she just, if you didn't know any better, you'd say she was the lead singer, like lead singer. that she's the main character because she never shuts up like yeah yeah yeah and I don't know I'm not a fan of this character she's great she's super anxious and like freaking out are you talking about Daisy

Daisy Daisy Daisy she's not Irish she's like some you know they have like a bunch of different kind of British people who's like oh I'm Welsh oh I'm from Birmingham yeah oh I'm from the north oh yes anyway

The only accent we know is cockney Right It's all Dick Van Dyke from Mary Poppins Yeah Picky blinders I don't know Fun show They all say peekie blinders yeah

So they're making You know 1912 rich people food I'm always like trying to get a look at the food They're making it all looks It all makes me feel insane I think I see someone carrying a plate of rice With hard boiled eggs on it Jesus.

It's crazy. Anyway, but that's when we learned. And it was for breakfast. Yeah. I don't know. Just rice and eggs, I guess. That's just, that's how it is. That's why the British took over the world was so that they could put some spice on their shitty bland food.

Yeah, no kidding. We need to take over some countries who know how to cook. Yeah. But yes, this is when we learned that the news that everyone was very sad to hear was that the Titanic has sunk and wouldn't you know it, but the two heirs to the Downton Abbey Fortune were on the Titanic. And this is a classic, you know, this is a pride and prejudice situation. It's a dad, he's got three daughters and no male heir. And a girl could not possibly be the heir to this giant house.

Against the rules, man. So, yeah, so that's kind of going on who's going to be the heir. and that's when misdebates comes to town. He is a distinguished gentleman. He's going to be the footman to Lord Grants. The valet. Excuse me, the valet to Lord Grantham. I call him Lord G.

But he has a limp. He has a mysterious injury. So kind of the other people who work in the house, they don't like that he's been elevated to this distinguished position because he has this injury. and maybe he can't do all the stuff that he needs to be doing. He caught me in line. Like there's one guy who's got sort of like a Beatles, like Liverpool accent.

His name is Thomas. And he's evil as fuck. He's evil as fuck. Very evil. And he and Miss O'Brien, they get together and they scheme. And that's what they do. They smoke and scheme. They smoke and they scheme.

They're scheming and they skiming. I hate them so much. Flames on the side of my face. Flames. Flame. I hate them so much. but so someone else comes to the house

who also is concerned about where all this fucking money's gonna go yeah that's right it's Dame Maggie Smith she came out of the Gallagher Countess this is she's an iconic bitch yes mama she ate and left no crumbs

this is one of the best characters in TV like she's as good as Al Sweringen and Homer Yes. She's so, yeah, she's fucking awesome. Everything she says is a great laugh. Yeah.

And there was so many Dowager Countess jokes when this came out. Everyone was obsessed with how fucking awesome she was. She is the greatest. Yeah, I would say she is one of the greatest television characters of all time. And she is so funny. Maggie Smith kills it in this role in ways that like I just don't think can ever be topped. You know, Julian Fellows has another show that I like called The Gilded Age. It's on HBO.

That's the same guy who made that? Same guy. And I enjoy the show, but, you know, and I love Christine Branski. Yeah, she's great in it. I think she's wonderful. She's, you know, to tell him that movie The Grinch you love, Matt. I know. She is in that Grinch-ass movie.

She's hot as fucking The Grinch, too. She's hotter in The Ref. That was her, you know, Slipper. Sox, medium. You got to watch that movie. It's really good. Okay, cool. But yeah, no, I love building.

Where Baranski's really a bone zone? Sybil. She was the drunk friend and Sybil. I watched Sybil like crazy because the oxygen network existed when I was in high school. Oh, yeah. And it was like, finally television for women. Well, that's how I discovered Sybil. And then there was also like strangers with candy was on there sometimes.

Oh, that's a great show. Cool. And that channel fucking ruled for a while. But anyways, the sort of, you know, Dowager Countess character, the Maggie Smith character of the Guilded Age is played by Bransky. And she's good in it, but no one reaches the heights that Maggie Smith is. And here is whenever she's on screen, this plays in my head. I love Maggie Smith, love Maggie Smith. Her name is Dame Maggie Smith.

Anyway, so you can hear the rest of that if you want. Give that a big old yes mama. Did you just learn this yes mama thing, Jordan? Have you guys seen drag race? Because I've never heard you say that ever. And you said it twice. You said it twice. It's my new thing.

People love it when straight guys say that, right? Oh, yeah, still, to this day. I kind of love it because it was something people said four years ago. Don't date it. That's fine. It's on fleek. It's charming. It's charming. I like it. But yeah, the first Maggie Smith like scene is so funny because these two heirs have just died.

And she's talking to Lord Grantham's wife. American wife. American wife. And this is what she says. Better than a miniature wife. I'm very sorry about poor Patrick, of course. We were all so fond of him. But I never cared for James. It was too like his mother and a nastier woman never drew breath. A nastier woman never drew breath. Why fucking the burns that she has on this show are so incredibly funny.

I love that no one can be offended when she says shit like that too. Like Lady Granth just goes, yeah, okay. This is stuff that she says. Yeah, because you do not want to incur her wrath because if she's going to read a dead guy, she will read this shit out of you. So you just kind of like you just watch your step. when Maggie Smith's in the room. Well, yes, I can wait to get to that age.

But I feel like once you're at that age, people let you say anything. Yeah. Yeah. Not that I can say all the things. Not that I hold anything back anywhere, but you know what I mean. Maybe I'll just, I'll be funnier.

Yeah. Say what you really think, Emily. Finally, I can talk about getting fingered. More often. Yeah. So, yeah. So the, you know, a power vacuum. in downtown abbey who is going to get this money we kind of meet the we meet the three daughters there's

three daughters and you know they're very like pride and prejudicey they're kind of the ones from pride and prejudice there's mary there's edith the middle one that name edith that is a rough name you better be hot as fuck if you got the name unfortunately she is she's treated as the ugly duck duckling the entire she's gorgeous but they treat her as the ugly duckling throughout the show And then there's the youngest, Sybil, who is maybe one of the most beautiful women who's ever lived. Me and all my homies when this was airing sat around and talked about, okay, gun to your head. You have to marry one of the Grantham girls. Sybil.

Wait, which one were you, Jordan? I think for me, it's Mary. Yeah. Really? Yeah, she's great. I'm a merry girl, too, I think. She's a bitch, but I like her. She's cold.

She's too cold for me. Sybil is great. She's incredible. Yeah. The girl who played Sybil, she's in this show called Harlitz. I don't know if you guys ever watched that show. I watched a couple of those. So dark and good.

I love it. Samantha Morton, it's about the ladies of the body houses in England. And I don't remember what time period. I got to watch that show. It's fucking good. I love Sybil. So Mary, as the oldest kid, she was supposed to marry her cousin. and oh yeah

this show just got hot this show just got sexy is there Downton Abbey porn oh man because marrying your cousin they've already got it built in there that's true you already got like the incest like SEO already

already have been there I'm gonna I'm gonna do a quick it's the first washing machine at Downton I hope no one gets stuck me is stuck in the marmalade yeah Me is stuck in the marmalade.

I really don't know how to do a British accent other than instead of saying I, you say me. So there's a guy coming to the house who they think could marry Mary and kind of put this whole thing to bed. This guy, he's a little weiner and he's a duke. What's this guy's name? Matt, I just called him the duke in this.

You know what? I don't remember. he doesn't uh i think he makes some other appearances eventually but i don't remember him he's the duke the duke uh so he comes to town they uh they offer him they offer him mr bates to be like his attendant but he says he would rather use thomas the scheming footman who he recognizes from something before we'll learn later that their relationship goes deeper than all that sure does so yeah so him and thomas kind of pair up. And then so the Duke, they kind of try and set her up with Mary, and there's a scene where

she has never, like, been in the servants' quarters. What are you holding up to the camera, Emily? Down on Abby. Down on Abby, the porn parody. You found that in 45 seconds. Crazy. Tales from the Bottomley Manor. I mean, honestly, good enough.

Can we wrap this up? I have something to watch. Oh, no. I have something else to watch. Yeah, I got to do something. At what, how many subscribers till we just start reviewing poor? How many subscribers would we get? I was actually going to pitch something to you guys.

Oh no. Is it watching porn? No, well, I mean, yeah. But no, like we do the like movie porn parody like videos for like special occasions or something. It's just. I think we need. I think at some point when we have enough subscribers, then we offer that as a as a bonus bonus bonus bonus. I like that. I like that. We really make them, we really make them dance for it.

Yeah, exactly. Watching, I mean, I wonder what the Harry and the Henderson's one is like. Yeah. I'll tell you this. I have attempted in, in college, to like watch a porn movie. Like, I watched, or I tried to watch pirates. You know, there was like the most expensive porn movie of all time. Yeah, yeah. That was like a trend in maybe a kind of a pre-internet or a pre-per- broadband world. Right. The idea was that porn movies were going to get more expensive. Right.

And they were going to become more and more like movies. Come. And yes. High budget. Yeah. Come with a you. And yeah, I'll tell you this right now. You, as you're watching it, you're like, I don't want to do this anymore.

Because you're either going to get horny, start masturbating, or you are. I came in three minutes. Yeah. Now I've got another hour to go. I've got another hour 45. It's just terrible. Of people doing like vertical drama acting. Of just people attempting, you know?

Vertical drama stuff. Everybody keeps going. It's AI and vertical dramas. I'm like, I don't know who you're telling this to anymore. Not me. Like, ain't nobody, ain't nobody can name a vertical drama that they watch. Nobody. That's a quibby.

And we can name. I can name more. porn parodies. Exactly. Anyway. Anyway. So the Duke, so Mary has not been in the like servant's quarters of the house she lives in. Right.

He's being a little mischievous. He's being a little stinker. He's taking her to the servants quarters. And her acting in this scene is so fucking good. Like these types of stories to get you to kind of buy into the stakes of it, you have to believe that this shit that doesn't mean, anything to us anymore. Right.

It was so important to them. Yes. And like her not wanting to be caught in the servant's quarters. You can just tell that it fucking freaks her out. She's like, this will like, you know, destroy my reputation if I'm seen in this room. Well, also, I thought that there was an interesting, like, two things at the same time because it's like, why is this man of higher status than me forcing me to go into someone's bedroom while they're not there?

Like, so there was other stuff where I was like, oh, no. She's going to be ruined because she's caught making out with a man who is not her husband. So that's what I was really worried about. And then they go into one of the servants' rooms. And he's rifling through their drawers. And I'm like, what the fuck is up with this guy? And later you find out. Yeah.

And I think what I love about this scene is you're right. You know, the acting is superb. But what's great about it is up until this point, Mary has been super cold-hearted. like her, you know, betrothed cousin has just died on the Titanic. Now who will I fuck?

That my cousin's dead. And she, so she's been kind of like, you know, cold and kind of mean. She said some mean shit shit to Edith,

her, you know, middle sister. Well, Edith's kind of a little cunt too, though. Yes. Well, you know,

they both, they both are catty with each other. And that dynamic continues. But she does it privately. Edith, like,

airs out the dirty laundry in front of everyone. And it's like, okay, bitch, this is not. Well, she's jealous of the fact that Mary gets all this attention and she's kind of the ugly duckling of the family. And so at this point, though, you're like, Mary, you know, is kind of cold, you know, pale, you know, kind of a B word, you know. And then you see that when she's there, not only is she like, I shouldn't be in the serving quarters because, you know, I'm, you know, because I'm, you know, because I'm, I'm,

important or whatever, but also because she's like, what are we doing? This is like, you know, they are people. Yeah. You know, they do have the right to privacy. Like, we're just rifling through their room. And then when Mr. Bates catches them and they leave and she's like, you know, I'm so sorry. The Duke is like, why did you say sorry to that man? Like it matters. And she goes, oh, yeah, that's just usually something I say when I know I'm in the wrong. That was a great line. I was like, oh, like, she's just, I don't know, there's, there's multi, all the characters are multi-dimensional, which makes the show, I think, ten times more interesting to watch, especially considering the show is essentially just a soap opera. And so you need strong characters. And it's all in one house, like just so it's like, it's a huge house, but it's like, you're just looking at staircases, hallways, old couches and fireplaces.

I did think about, you know, Mary's, everyone in the show is great looking. But she is so beautiful and elegant and her hair is always just imperfect. And she's never leaving the house. She's just walking around in the house looking perfect all the time and barely anyone gets to see it. She's like a hot, she's a hot ghost. She should be out on the town just going, aren't I beautiful? Sun can't touch that skin. They're going to go to some balls and.

shit later in the story. I'll go to some ball. I got to get to that. Because it's like I really enjoyed looking at the process of the help waking up in the morning versus the wealthy people waking up.

That's right. It's like the waking up and then ring your little bell for them to come give you stuff and like looking out the window oh we're wearing beautiful nightgowns. Everyone's going down to breakfast early and talking. Mrs. Grantham is just eaten like a

slob in her bed. And I'm like, that's my big. She's the American. That's how she do. You don't give a fuck. You don't care. It's Mother's Day every day. We'll snarf our eggs and rice in bed.

I want one of those eaten bed trays that has the little legs. I'm going to get one of those because fuck that. And a servant. I want a servant. I have a sister. I'll make her one of those eventually. I'm kidding. So we,

so the kind of Mr. Bates thing has been playing out. Kind of all the servant. are kind of working together to kind of undermine him. Lord Grantham, we find out they were in the military together. That's kind of where he got his limp. And that's kind of why, you know, Lord Grantham wants to give him this job because he, you know, he feels like he owes him. But he does, Lord Grantham does end up firing him.

He says, you kind of have one more night here. And then Anna, Anna, Anna is one of the servants who you can tell has a thing for Mr. Bates. Mr. Bates. And she brings him some food. and again, I'm baffled at the food. It's just white balls? What are the white balls? What is she giving him?

It's a bowl of aring for you, Mr. Bait. It's a bowl of aring, yeah. It's pickled and boiled at the same time. But he is crying, and it makes me so sad. His crying is so sad because you're like, this guy can't find a job because he is, you know, injured and, like, he's going to die on the street. Yeah, he's going to be.

He's going to die. Straight up. And, like, you know, he basically tells that to Lord Grantham, where he's just like, I won't find another job if you fire me. And he's like, fuck up old boy. It's a bloody business. Have some white balls. Yeah, eat the white bowls.

Have some white balls. We like them in this house because our teeth are too soft. We got soft teeth. We have to eat fish balls we do. All my teeth are falling out, miss go. Oh, got a lovely. bunch of fishy balls. You go mushy, mushy in moments.

I am not participating in this. At all. Sorry, England. Sorry, we love you, England. We love you, England. It's crazy that you guys are on island. Wild. Hire me to work on Taskmaster.

Don't listen to these two. Yes. But make us all the American next year. You got to have one now. Okay, so we learned that the Duke, he's not going to propose to marry. Part of the reason is that he and Thomas are hooking up twist.

They like spent the summer together. And they're kind of, they're kind of scheming together. They have, you know, kind of a kind of a hot makeout session. Now, is it the best thing in the world that the only gay characters are sneaky little sneaks who sneak around? It's some 1940s shit.

But, you know. I'll tell you this right now. Julian fellows, before he got his, you know, start being a TV writer making both Gossford Park and then of course, down Nabi was a conservative MP in the UK.

So he is he is conservative. This show has an incredibly conservative worldview. It's sort of a liberal conservative. Like it's accepting. Yeah, this is the Yellowstone for England. Yes, exactly. I think he's saying that it would be better

if we went back to Downton Abbey and there were servants. The show is essentially saying that. And so it is there's an evilness to it but it's so wonderful to watch.

Do you think that's true of Mad Men too? Do you think it's like, wouldn't it be easier to go back to this? I don't know if I think Downton Abbey. Yeah, I think Madman is critical of it. I think he, I think Madman the point of madman

seems to be that our grandparents were miserable and they didn't have to be. Yes, exactly. But, you know, I've been a minute since I watched it. But I know what you mean, Emily. I know it is, it does like, it is so, like, fetishy about the 50s and 60s, you know. Yeah.

No, but this show is essentially like, but look how happy the servants were when they knew their place. Oh, yeah, that's true. And if you see a gay guy, look out, because he might be scheming. on you and trying to take your money. I've got all sorts of schemes they're going to do on Mr. Beds.

They did kick his cane out at one point there. That was so fucked up. Awful to him. But Mr. Bates and the Duke, they're going to go out in the same coach and Lord Grantham kind of does a last, like a final rom-com run out to the airport and he grabs Mr. Bates. It's so funny that

like the huge third act of this show is someone taking someone else out of a carriage. That's like the big thing of like, you thought he was going to get in the carriage and then he didn't get in. And like that's the most exciting thing that happens in the show. It's incredible.

It's such a great moment. It's such a great moment. And that's what I love the show is that you do get invested enough in the show for on paper something boring to be really, really exciting. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah,

and then you kind of get the tease for the next episode. A third cousin. gets a letter. This is Danny Stevens, the guy who is in every movie for a while. Yeah, and a lot of AMC TV shows. That's right.

He keeps being in there. Love it when this fucking guy pops out. He's the beast from the live action Beauty and the Beast. Oh, I didn't know that. Check out. Yeah, and he's... Oh, that's great. Yeah, and then this movie, The Guest.

Like, I don't know if you've seen that. The guest is a very good movie. I don't know it. He's the guy who made King Kong his robot arm. What? There's a Godzilla X-Kong new empire. He makes King Kong. Well, he's Dan Stevens is great than that.

Of course he's in a Godzilla movie. He'll do anything, man. Yeah, he'll do whatever. Yeah, and he's like, they're going to change our life. And that's kind of the where we leave, everyone. Yeah, we talked a little bit about it. But before we say what we thought of the show, we got to do the hunk. It's hunk watch

Um, any, I mean, we talked a little bit about some hunks. The Titanic. Yes, the ultimate, the hunk that's landed to a hunk. Nice boog. Yeah, love that wig. Uh, yeah. So, I mean, yes, we talked about the sisters, uh, babes all around. Yeah, yeah.

Can I guess that it's Mr. Bates for everybody? No. Wow. Okay. No, correct. It's, it for. me. I love him. It's goddamn Maggie Smith! Yes. You're right.

I want that bitch to fucking walk me around like a dog. I know. I know. Dog walk me. Nothing I want more than that. Mommy Maggie. Maggie. Maggie. Maggie. She is 100% the goat. She is my number one hunk. I think a close second

at least in this episode in particular, I can be honest with you, it's Thomas. He's a scheming. He's a scheming. little a gay man but he is so um i don't know he's so cute and there's just something that uh maybe this is all you know it's painted from seeing the whole show all the way through but eventually you come to really you know see him as a human being and not just a monster a monster yeah i i mean i'd say that lord grantham is also doing it doing it for me oh yeah he's a

tall tall guy too i feel like and i like it's true he's a big guy yes but i love when he's like my favorite scene of the whole show was when he and lady grantham are like getting in bed to like go to sleep and they it looks so comfy and the sheets are like satiny and they're like cuddling each other and their old-timey pajamas yeah i was like i just want i want to watch this scene over and over i know I want that life. They look so cozy. They do and they're rich for them. Yeah.

What a life. Well, yeah, let's rank it on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials. Matt, you can close it out as the picker this month. Emily, what did you think? One to ten. It was long as shit. That was my main thing. Pretty long.

But now I know that it was like because it was the premiere. It was just a little longer to wet the appetite. So I'm going to give it an eight right now. I'm not sure if it's got me by the balls yet, but I'm definitely going to give it a season. I'm going to give it a season. You should. Give it a season. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm right there with you. Emily, I'm going to give it a nine. I really, really liked it. And I remembered how much I liked it, you know, when it originally aired. And yeah, it makes me think about going back. I don't watch as much TV as I say I'm going to just because I basically watch the prices right in jeopardy. Really?

Yeah, I know. That's cool. Jordan, I had no idea. Yeah. I like that. I like that. I just kind of rewatch the same shows over and over again. And sometimes I'll throw in a new one. But for the most part, that's my, you know, jeopardy and prices right. I'm in the true crime documentary phase of my life. That's fine. No, it's not. It's not good, like, information to put in my brain when I'm trying to go to sleep. It's really not good. But the amount of chores I get done when it's on. Like, it's crazy. I'm like, it's crazy. I'm like, like moving. My brain is like, you know, it's good. It's stimulating. I get why people like it. Yeah. Um, yeah. Uh, my turn. But what on, on a, on a, on a rewatch, this favorite show of yours, is it still one of your ATFs? Uh, absolutely. This is a 10. This is an easy 10 for me. Um, it is just the, I mean, I, I, I understand that it's, it's long. And for sure, so much. So much. more happens in the next, you know, two episodes. I would say comfortably you can give it one more episode. And if you're not, if you're not in by episode, the end of episode two, then fine.

You know, you, it's, but to me, it is just one of the greatest shows ever made. I love everything about it. Despite the shitty politics of it, it is just fabulous. And I, you know, I love a show that starts off with the Titanic song. what are we going to do. Yeah, so it's a 10. I love you, Downton Abbey. All right. That was our review of Downton Abbey.

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