Free With Ads - Who Framed Roger Rabbit

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

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This is Free With Ads, the podcast that asks the question, why pay Disney+, Turner Classic Movies, and comic book artist OnlyFans pages a bunch of money a month for classic animation, film, noir, and horny cartoon characters when you can go online for free and watch one Academy Award winning movie that combines them all. I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming.

Today's movie is Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the animation live action hybrid classic that caused a generation of kids to wonder to themselves, are these feelings I'm having sex feelings? With us always is super producer Matt Hittin' Us with those wacky loony drops. Not just a joke. Not just a joke.

Oh, that voice, oh, that voice. That's definitely not a sex feeling. Or, I don't know, hang on, maybe. Yeah, I think this movie both attracts and repels, and I think that's why it is so strong. Totally. It was, you know, when I saw it as a kid, it was like the funniest, the sexiest, and the scariest thing I had

ever seen. And that just gets into your brain and it never leaves. Yeah. It's a core memory where you're like, I'm scared and horny. Oh no, what do I do? Sure. Too much. Too much.

Brain too young. Why is baby smoking? Smoking good. Mickey here? Why? Why is Mickey here? All my friends here, but they're trying to murder Eddie Valiant. Well yeah, we are going to talk about Who Framed Roger Rabbit. But first,

we're going to talk about something else we saw for free on the internet this week. Other free stuff. Emily, this is something you sent us. But first, we're going to talk about something else we saw for free on the internet this week. Other Free Stuff. Emily, this is something you sent us involving journalist and Turner Classic Movies host Ben Mankiewicz. What is this and where did you see it? Okay, so you submitted something for our Other Free Stuff and it was a local library doing a

trend where it's you know our Gen Z interns wrote this video. Oh right yeah I think I I think the Republic Library employees doing the hot to go meme. Oh that's what it was. And yeah it was a kind of a delightfully stilted, kind of wonderfully lo-fi charming take on me. Right, right. So I've seen that a few different places or whatever, and Turner Classic Movies joined this bandwagon very late on, which feels very on brand for Turner Classic Movies. So this is just the thing, it's Gen Z slaying,

a la your grandpapa's favorite channel. Oh yeah, so the premise of this is that Ben Mankiewicz, the authoritative, know-it-all silver-haired daddy of turning classic movies. Yeah, I'd never seen his face before this. Oh really? Oh yeah, sure. I feel like I've. Yeah, I'd never seen his face before this. Oh really? Oh yeah, sure. I feel like I've heard his voice,

but never seen his face. Wonderful voice. Big Mankiewicz fan over here. Oh wow. So yeah, the premise is that the Gen Z intern wrote his script, so this is what we'll play. Hey besties, it's your favorite nepo baby, Ben Mankiewicz. And tonight is for the girlies,

as we serve one of 1945's biggest slays, Mildred Peele. Queen Joan Crawford gives main character energy in this noir that quite literally slaps based on a novel by James M. Kane. The story follows a mother mothering as she's willing to gaslight gatekeep and girl boss to support her brass.

The T is with her eldest daughter, played by Ann Blythe, who gets the ick when Mama enters her Rizzler era and starts vibing with her sus situationship. Basically high-key annoyed with her boss-baited mother, early pop becomes not very demure or mindful and chat, it gets messy. While Joan Crawford ate and left no crumbs, her first starring role with Warner Brothers wouldn't have happened if her rival, Betty Davis, didn't diva down and let Crawford cook which served her an Oscar win. No cap, this movie understood the assignment as critics agree Joan Crawford hits different for this clock. 1945 here's Mildred Pierce

and once again this is never happening again. That's too bad because damn that was long. It was long and it made so much sense, and that's the crazy thing, is like, I think the fact that I understood it means that this is Gen Z like slang from two years ago. Right, yeah. You know? Right. They got new shit now, I don't even know what they're talking about. I don't know, I think that- That's mountain, yo.

They're just saying that's mountain. Yeah, I say that's mountain. We don't know what it means. Yeah, yo. They're just saying that's Mountain. We don't know what it means. Yeah, yeah. I also think this was the best educational video of what all of those things mean for our parents to watch that and also for me, because some of those. I know, I feel like I have a better understanding

of a couple of those now. Still don't get No Cap. No Cap still eludes me. I think it means for real. It means no Still don't get no cap. No cap still eludes me. I think it means like for real. It means no lie. It means no lie. When someone says cap, they mean you're lying. What is it short for?

Don't know. Sure. Capricious, I assume. I'm not really sure what most of those things mean outside of the context. It all probably tracks back to say racist Twitch streamers. Probably. Probably.

But I think more so, usually it is AAVE vernacular first. And then it tracks back. Drag slang a lot. We kind of get drag slang a couple years later. Yeah, my favorite thing about this is this morning, before 9 a.m. Jordan texts our our chat and goes, Hey, do you have that? Whatever his name is, Mankiewicz video. Like, I'm going to know it by that guy's name. And I was like, who is that?

You're like, oh, the Turner Classic movie. So I'm like, oh, OK, yeah, I'll look at that. But I was like. Some people know who Ben Mankiewicz is. Okay, so he's a Nepo baby? Who's his dad or mom? He's very proud of it too. He's kind of like cool about,

he'll mention it in interviews, he's like, by the way, I'm a Nepo baby, which is great. I mean, I hate it when like Gwyneth Paltrow is in an interview going like, my dad never helped me get an audition. He's like, he probably did. Oh, yeah, fuck off.

Yeah, so I like that about him. And yeah, I had a big Turner Classic movies phase, especially during the pandemic. Oh my God, I watched a lot of Ben Mankiewicz during the pandemic. And yeah, I like all people who are looking to save a buck, kicked my cable, but ooh boy, do I miss my Turner Classic movies and my Mankiewicz.

But who is Ben Mankiewicz's parent? He was a screenwriter, a famous screenwriter. of a buck, you know, kicked my cable, but oh boy, do I miss my Turner classic movies and my Macowin's. But who has been Macowin's parents? He was a screenwriter, a famous screenwriter. They made a movie about him called Mank, played by Gary Oldman. That's him. Yeah. Oh my God. I saw that movie.

Yeah. Wait, that's his dad or his granddad? That's his dad. Whoa. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. So it is cool that he like owns the being a Neppo baby thing.

Because he gets out in front of it in a way. He's also not doing what his dad did, so it's also OK. You know what I mean? He's not selling a bunch of shitty screenplays because his dad was a good screenwriter. He's like, no, he's a commentator, he's a host. He's, you know, he's someone who knows and loves movies and just likes to talk about them,

which I think is awesome. Also, he's really like interesting and funny. Right, but he's also like bringing appreciation towards the movies of his like father's era. So, and to Gen Z, clearly. So, it's nice that I think his dad would be proud of him Yeah, he better not start a podcast though about free movies Wait wait if he listens to this tell it like if you know him

Get him on the podcast. I'd love to talk to him I feel like that's probably possible Just tell him, like, if you know him, get him on the podcast. I'd love to talk to him. No cap. I feel like that's probably possible. I will, I will, I will. Yeah, I know some people who know him. Maybe, maybe I'll reach out. But you know what? Is he married?

Does he want to create a few other Nepo babies? Okay, so I'll also ask if he's single. Probably not. Yeah. Sure. And if he's up for impregnating someone. Yeah. I got about three months left, probably.

There's one egg hanging out for dear life. You know, so let's get it trending. Are hashtags a thing anymore? I don't know. Sure. Hashtag Mankiewicz, come on free with ads. Mm-hmm, yeah. And then go on Come Town and then go on Chapo. Absolutely.

And you know what? If you do so, we'll play you your own sting, and it'll go like this. Mankowicz! Whoa! That's for you, Mank. There you go, it's perfect. Three syllables, it was meant to be.

Hey, let's talk about one of my favorite movies of all time, Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Everybody's seen it, everybody, did everybody see it in, I mean you're maybe a little young to have seen it in theaters, but I sure did. I don't know where I saw it first, but we're only like two years apart. Like, I don't know, what year did it come out again?

This is 88, so yeah, I was six or seven. I think everyone is too young to see this movie, but I was certainly too young. But also it's one of my favorite movies and it just lives in my brain and will forever. So yeah, Matt theaters? No, I was too young to see it in a theater. But you know what?

What's weird about this movie is I did not own it on VHS, and yet in rewatching it, I was able to pretty much verbatim repeat lines back to it. So I think I saw it, must have seen this movie a thousand times on cable, definitely saw it way too young. Definitely was confused by a lot of it, horrified by a lot of it. But also I thought it was the greatest thing that anyone had ever invented in movies when I was a kid. Doesn't it make you feel... So I, especially with the climate lately, I've been... I don't know about you guys, I have a hard time... What do you mean? You know, the world is on fire.

But I've had a hard time differentiating between my dreams while I'm sleeping and real life. Like memories are starting to feel like, oh that happened. And this movie to me, like there's memories I have of first seeing this movie that I realize, oh, there's things I remember from this movie that I thought were like real life weird things. Like there's I don't know what to describe it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. It's weird. It's a dream world aesthetic like thing in this movie where it feels like there's multiple dimensions within this world

that are real. I just feel like Toontown exists. I guess that's what I'm saying. 100%. What's Disneyland? It's toward the back. Right. Yeah. I remember when Toontown was made at Disneyland, and I remember thinking, because I was just young enough that I thought it might be possible that I could hang out with actual cartoons. So, I feel you on this, Emily, like it did feel like other dimensional. Jordan, when did you see this movie? Yeah, so in theaters, I distinctly remember going to the theater to see it. I saw it at the El Toro movie theaters, not around anymore. They were in the same shopping center as Comic Quest, my comic book store, which is in a different shopping center, but still around in Orange County. Visit Comic Quest if you're

in the neighborhood. Yeah. I remember being so excited and walking out and feeling like the world was different. Yeah, we had it on VHS and I watched it into the ground and this yeah This is like a every once a year watch for me. I just love it. Yeah Yeah, let's and yeah, I like I if you listen to this show, you know I just like talk a lot about cartoons. I like was and am such a cartoon kid so like all these little references like worked for me and yes, it was just like so all these little references worked for me. And yeah, so it was just like, as to reference another cartoon,

it's a great, Barney Gumbel once said, "'Stick it in my veins.'" Um. Um. Wow. Yeah. Another guy, I don't know. Oh yeah, Homer's friend.

Homer's friend at the bar. Oh yeah, that's another thing I wasn't allowed to watch because I was so young. No, it's because... The Simpsons were a popular band show for us. I mean, it's kind of a crapshoot whether or not your parents were into it, but definitely a lot of people didn't like Bart's back talk. I also just wasn't interested in it as a little girl.

I think it was like I liked things that were more visually kind of like, intricate and more like going on. Hentai porn. For instance. Yeah, there's not enough tentacles in Simpsons. I mean, Treehouse of Horror does tend to have some tentacle guys.

Yeah, Kang and Kodo, such a looky year, the Halloween episode. Also, there are zero fuckable people in the Simpsons like men I mean like the women are babes Gross like this goes to up who I mean The list goes on and I can list fuckable Simpsons care Lanny our and we don't even have to talk about Either got a gut or a hump on their back. Like it's one or the other. That's pretty accurate.

Yeah. Smithers, I mean. Yeah, so who framed Roger Rabbit? It starts with a Roger Rabbit cartoon short. Something's cooking. Roger Rabbit has to look after baby Herman, who is a baby. And he gets the assignment from a yelling pair of legs that's kind of like, you know, supposed to be kind of a reference to Nanny from Muppet Babies or there's like a

maid in Tom and Jerry that's just kind of represented by legs. And you know, obviously, Jessica Rabbit is the sex symbol of this movie. But like, I don't know, Dolores is pretty hot too. Dolores is hot, it's gonna be a robust hunk watch discussion, I can tell. But these like, these like thick thighs and the stocking, you know, not bad. Baby woman's mom. Oh, I get it, I get it, 100%. Anyway, so it's this kind of just like,

very familiar but like exquisitely done cartoon where Roger has to like save baby Herman from all the like shit in the kitchen that's gonna kill him. It looks amazing. It's like one of those things where it looks like you remember Looney Tunes looking. It's not what they actually looked like,

but it's what they look like in your brain when you remember them. It's not what they actually looked like, but it's what they look like in your brain when you remember them. It's so stunning. I was talking to Jordan about this, the floor and how you could see reflection in it. It's like glossy liquid has this hyper realism thing to it. It's like there's- Yeah, it's all hand drawn.

It was done by kind of a crazy rogue animator who refused to use any CGI Yeah, beautiful beautiful beautiful so so funny yeah, it reminded me of eternal sunshine a little bit, you know where it's like the He's the world is giant and then he's the child on the floor Like it I feel like they took it from this opening scene of Roger Rabbit. Could've. Yeah, so you see this cartoon, it's awesome. It kind of ends with Roger getting a refrigerator

plopped on his head. When it opens, we see that he's seeing stars and it pulls back and we see that this is all happening on a movie set. Our fucking grandparents talked about how great The Wizard of Oz was when it turned into color. This is that for our generation. When you hold back and you see it's all,

and like every prop, and this is gonna be, I don't know, this is a fucking boring episode of just me saying how great this movie is. Whatever, it's not funny about this. I also want to spend this whole episode talking about how this might be our generation's Citizen Kane. Yeah, sure. Totally. Like, hilarious to say, but probably true.

Yes. I wouldn't be surprised if this inspired Toy Story in a way where it's like- Oh, 100%. Yeah, the cartoons are actual living beings that are doing their own stunts and they create the stars that come out of their head when they get hit with something. Yeah. And it's like, I mean, the idea that the toys are real and like, I don't know.

I think that there's this had a heavy influence on everything. On a lot of things. Quick question. So this was 1988. When did Cool World come out? 1990, I believe. Yeah, that is definitely because of Roger? 1990, I believe. Yeah. So that is definitely because of Roger Rabbit. Oh yeah, yeah, everyone was trying this. You were like, what if people weren't allowed

to fuck the horny, you know? Right, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And you know, I think we talked about this, is that Cool World was supposed to be this other script about a cartoon character trying to kill his creator. But then I'm sure just someone saw this movie and went do a Roger Rabbit.

And yeah, and they just kind of had to, you know, jerry-rig a low-budget Roger Rabbit that didn't make any sense. Yeah, and you really see how low-budget Cool World was when you watch this movie, when you realize the time and effort it took to incorporate not just animation, but also like they used industrial light and magics people in order to make sure that like

when he was touching things, things would look like they were being touched by a cartoon. You know, he would jump into a trash can and it would look like something jumped. It, you know, it wasn't just superimposed over it. It's incredible. Is Bob Hoskins still alive? No, unfortunately not. He's not, he died in 2014. And yeah, he's perfect in this.

Like the star of this is obviously the tech, right? Like how did they get to look like cartoons are in the real world? But he, and all the acting in this is so good. And he's terrific and he's perfect. And like they wanted Robin Williams for it. They wanted Eddie Murphy for it. Nope.

Nope, he's like, they would have been funny and he can't be funny until that last scene. Yes, yes, exactly. Yeah. Right. He's too perfect for this. Anyone else could not have done this, no. And just amazing that Bob Hoskins, this like working class, gruff British Shakespeare actor

was a kids movie star when we were kids. I know. This, Hook, Mario, like kids love this guy. Oh my God. This rogony, cockney drunk. I forgot he was Smee in Hook. Yes, yes. He was also in Mermaids, which he,

talk about a hunk in Mermaids, and if that, it was Free With Ads, but I don't know if it ever is, but if it is again, I've really, that's my next, it's like Moonstruck, and then Mermaids are two of the most romantic movies to me. I just, we have to watch Mermaids eventually. That's all I'm saying.

He was also in The Wall, the Pink Floyd musical, The Wall. But you know, this was like pre him being a 90s kids TV star or movie star. Kids love this guy. Yeah, he was in The Wall. Yeah, so crazy, yeah, and yeah, he's on the wall. Yeah, so crazy. And yeah, he's so good. So yeah, so we pull back,

we see that this is all happening on a set. Great detail, you see that the legs I mentioned are being, it's a guy on stilts working the legs. You see like every prop in the cartoon is just there, it's physical. They're mad at Roger because he was supposed to see birds and he's seeing stars. And we hear that Baby Herman is a gruff it's physical. They're mad at Roger, cause he was supposed to see birds and he's seeing stars, and we hear that Baby Herman is a gruff New York guy, he's an asshole,

slappin' butts, smokin' cigars. You know. But he's still Roger's friend though. He's still like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have a sweet relationship. They do, yeah. Sort of.

Yeah. So yeah, and then we, on the set is, we mentioned him, Bob Hoskins, hard drinking, private eye Eddie Valiant. He's there to see R.K. Maroon, who owns the cartoon studio. Roger apparently cannot perform because he thinks his wife is having an affair.

And he sends Eddie out to take pictures of Roger's wife. Eddie says he doesn't go into Toontown. This is one of the first things we'll hear about Eddie's backstory. He does not go into Toontown and he hates tunes. We get this great gag, RK Maroon, Dumbo pops up in the window and he's like, I got him on Loan for Disney, he works for Peanuts.

He throws Dumbo a bunch of peanuts. And this it's great and then he says it's also we we also got the cast of Fantasia on loan yeah and as as they walk through the movie studio you see all the characters from from Fantasia doing something in the background you see the broom sweeping yes goes by the tempo ballerina. Yes. So fucking good and it's so subtle. And the sweeping can't happen without the

musician playing the song that he was playing in Fantasia when the brooms are all sweeping. He's playing on a saxophone. It's like a little detail in the background. Dun dun dun dun dun dun. Yeah, it's like there's a little reality there and there's a little logic to it.

And I just like, I love this movie doesn't explain shit. It just drops you in and it has a logic and like if you made this movie today, there would be a fucking, you know, 20 minute backstory thing about how a portal opened up or there was a crystal. It's like, no, cartoons are real in this world. Who cares, go. Also, there'd be someone going, they yeeted me into the dip or something.

Yeah, I know, there'd be a bunch of like. There'd be a Gen Z intern who wrote all the dialogue. It would be the worst. Roger would be like, so what happened? Really? In terms of what you're saying about like, if this were done today, the way I felt about it was like,

there's something about the way in which we do these like, like synergistic IP tie-ins things where, you know, you have movies like, what was it? Free Man or Extra Guy. Whatever the one- Or Free Guy, yeah. The Ryan Reynolds in the video game. Yeah, so it's like, you know, it's like,

oh, look at all this video game IP, you know, together. We've got like Marvel stuff and DC stuff and Sonic stuff. And, you know, you see that also with, you know, kind of the Avengers in a way. It's just like, we're gonna put all of our guys together. And it's not, you know, to denigrate those things, but there's something so innovative and natural about the world that they built in this movie

that it makes sense that Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny hanging out together, or like a piano competition between Donald Duck and Daffy Duck, stuff like that. Where I was like, this is actually incredible and it doesn't feel at all like a cash grab. Totally. And the other like, okay, you guys remember the movie Ready Player One? Yeah, sure. Yes. Perfect example.

Yeah. But I mean, I know that that movie was very successful, but it did feel like let's cram It's it's also it's also what the book felt like and and I feel like this movie. Yeah Yeah, it started it was a book first and and I do feel like this movie Is doing that? Perfectly and it doesn't feel cheap which is yeah. And it's in the service of this weirdo story. Like it's this particular vision. It's like not only are all the characters in this world,

but it's also a film noir parody and it has its own little plot. You know, it's just, it's great. It's very lovingly like. Yeah. And this was all, like Robert Zemeckis directed this, but I think the idea is that The reason all this stuff happened was Spielberg

He was the biggest guy in town at this point kind of still is but at the time he was and like Just called everyone and said you have to let me put Bugs Bunny in this and they just said okay, cuz it was Spielberg Wow So yeah, they're there's a um To me with things like Ready Player One, it's things like we have to include these. We have to because it's like it's going to get and then this movie felt like we get to. Yeah. Yeah. We get to have this. This is all so cool. Like it felt like everything was for the love of it and very exciting. But yeah, it was weird with Mickey and Bugs because that's when I realized

what an asshole Bugs Bunny truly is. Because Mickey's so nice. Yeah, it is funny that they're together. Yeah, it's fun, it's fun. So yeah, so one more just little gag that I love that I wanna call out in this kind of trip around the studio is they pass a cattle call and it is a bunch of cows and they're all reading

their lines and they're all just saying moo. Very funny. I missed that one. Again, good episode, me just saying things that were funny in a movie. I guess. Whatever. Who knows? Maybe we'll have to watch fucking cats or something next week.

Just make our own jokes instead of just saying jokes we like. We don't just do shitty movies on this podcast. We do good movies. Sometimes we like to nerd out. Sure. Anyway, Eddie Valiant. So he's got the assignment. He rides the streetcar home.

LA has the best public transit in the world, he tells some street urchins who give him cigarettes. And again, these are jokes, but they're part of the plot. Fun screenwriting. He goes to the bar owned by Dolores. They have a history. It is kind of like the Dick Tracy Tess relationship. Oh yeah.

Are they dating? What are they? Did they used to date? It's kind of unclear, but you can tell they're kind of in love. Yeah. And he alludes to a trip to Catalina. He's brought a camera.

She gives him the camera, says the film hasn't been developed since our trip to Catalina. Aww. Anyway, and that's how we also learned that Eddie Valiant doesn't like tunes because a tune killed his brother, who is his partner in the private eye business, Valiant and Valiant. He gets to the Ink and Paint Club where Roger's wife, Jessica, is performing. The password to get into Ink and paint club Walt sent me that's where we get Daffy and Donald doing the dueling pianos this is so fucking funny and so

beautifully animated oh my god it's great Daffy Duck one of the best characters ever there he meets Marvin Acme the guy who owns Acme you know jokes and gags squirts him with disappearing ink joke comes back later screenwriting everything comes back in this movie, fucking everything comes back. Yes. Who wrote this, by the way? Oh, you know, I looked at it and it's a writing team and they have other movies you've heard of,

but nothing is like this. They wrote like Shrek 3, which might be a great movie. That's a good one. I have not seen Shrek 3, but yeah, it's like one of the greatest screenplays. I just love it. Yeah. Very cool. It's perfect.

He, let's see, so there's a penguin as the waiter. He says, give me a scotch on the rocks. And he has to yell, I mean ice, because he knows the tunes are gonna fuck it up. I remember that. I was, God, it is just. I loved that as a kid, and I did not know it on the rocks.

No, neither did I. There's a rock in his drink. Yeah. When he gets it and there's rocks in his drink, all I could think as a kid was, well, what else would it be? Right. And it wasn't until I was an adult that I went,

oh, that's just, that's how adults say I. It sounds funny anyway. That's what a lot of like, if something just sounds funny, like the words sound funny, kids will think it's funny. But later on. Absolutely. I know, I feel like I just like, I remember being a kid

and watching Letterman and going, ha ha ha, Mayor Ed Koch. Ha ha ha. The guy who was the mayor of New York at the time. And I'm just like, I don't know who that is. As a kid, you just enjoy when you're watching other people laugh and have fun. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Oh, you guys, so this writing team,

they wrote How the Grinch Stole Christmas, the one with Jim Carrey. Oh, that's a really good movie. And Wild Wild West. Well, they can't all be winners, but you know, I will say Wild Wild West is a competent movie. I love it. I haven't seen it.

I know it's kind of a famous bomb, and I know it's like, I feel like I know that it has a steampunk spider in it. Yes, it does. That's all I know. It's cool, I liked it when it came out. I can't imagine we won't watch Wild Wild West at a certain point for this.

Oh heck yeah, we gotta watch it. You too, do it. Someone put up Wild Wild West at a certain point for this. Oh, heck yeah. We got to watch it. You too. Do it. Someone put up Wild Wild West for free. We will watch. Yes, yes, yes. And oh, Betty Boop is the cocktail waitress. And they clearly know each other.

And he's really sweet to Betty Boop. It's like, you know, he says he hates tunes, but you can tell he has a relationship with them. He knows they're going to do the rocks joke. He knows Betty Boop. And you know, she's fallen on hard times since cartoons went to color. But she's still got it.

She's still got it. Boop boop be doop. Very sweet, that little moment between them. I love it. And she's got the hots for Roger Rabbit too. Yeah, it's such a funny joke how every woman in this world wants Roger Rabbit. I know.

Yeah, so then out comes Jessica Rabbit. You know her, she's the back tattoo on the most difficult person you ever dated. Yes, exactly. She's singing a song for all these horny humans. The Ink and Paint Club is for humans, but tunes work there. And this thing is a parable for race in America.

Oh my God. Yes, yes. Yeah, because it's like no tunes are allowed and like the way in which Eddie Valiant is someone who at one point did work in Toontown and work for and with tunes and is now like embarrassed if someone says he works with tunes. It's clear that there's like a cast system in which tunes are at the bottom. Inca Paint is supposed to be the Cotton Club I think. Yes, absolutely. White people would go and watch black performers

who probably couldn't get in there themselves. So, yeah, fucking round and round, but it's got levels. Anyway, but, so Eddie follows Jessica back to her dressing room where she is playing Patty Cake with Marvin Acme. And he- Such a good gag. It's great.

Such a good gag. You don great. Such a good gag. You don't see that they're actually playing patty cake. You just think that's an old film noir reference for sex. Right, right. It sounds like they're fucking. It's off camera. She's taking pictures. Yeah.

She's moaning and stuff. Yeah. And then it's not until you see Roger flipping through the black and white pictures that you see them like a flip book. It starts animating and they're playing Patty Cake. I'm like, that's such a good joke. It's great. So yeah, so yeah, he shows Roger the photos of Patty Cake.

He gives Roger a shot of whiskey. It freaks him out. He runs through the, he like kind of says something that, it freaks him out, he runs through the, he like, kind of says something that makes it seem like he's gonna get revenge and he blasts through the wall and leaves a hole shaped like him, that's like a real hole in the real fucking wall, it's so good. Um, and back at Valiant and Valiant, we see that he, to develop the photos of Jessica playing Patty Cake, he gets all these old photos of him and his brother.

And we see that cranky old Eddie Valiant in these photos was a real jokester. He's like burying people in the sand, he's doing the Groucho thing. And then it pans over his desk. We see that his brother's side is still there, covered in dust. And we just see his whole fucking history in pictures.

Like, it's him and his brother starting a detective agency. There's a newspaper headline that says, Goofy cleared of spy charges. I love a newspaper headline joke, as we know. This is one of my favorites. So much funny Goofy stuff. So Goofy's a communist. Yeah, or he was a suspected communist in this world.

I know, just so crazy that they. Can I tell you? You hope that it was communist. It would be worse if he was a suspected Nazi. Yeah. Oh yeah. He's too goofy for that. Too goofy.

Yeah, that's true. I did go on a series of dates with a private eye, with a private detective in New York. Crazy that's an actual job and not just something that exists in movies. I know, well I always was confused, like I just assumed from movies as a kid that private eyes were a sector of the police

force. Right, yeah. Like that they were undercover cops or something like that, but they are independent contractors. Like they're just their own thing. They're just guys. That are hired by civilians to just do whatever. I'm sure that they will work with the cops if they want them to. I just don't think that's how that works. But I didn't know that till I went on a

OKCupid series of dates with this guy. Vintage. And I he seemed really cool. But the first date he picks me up in a car and he goes, I have to stop somewhere before we go to dinner and we like park on the side of the road. And I'm like, and you're? And you're tailing somebody? Yeah, I didn't know what we were doing because I didn't know what he did for a living. This is all Brooklyn circa 2010.

It was like 2012, I think is what it was. Yeah, circa. But like he was very handsome, very not right. But we just sat there for a while and then. Could you always hear his internal monologue? Could you hear what he. Yeah, right. It's a dark night in Williamsburg.

Exactly. Next to the whatever pizza shit is popular this month. She was a stand up comic from Nashville. She says she is, but she doesn't have that many booked gigs. More of an open mic-er, if you know what I mean. Um, but yeah, no, so. I can hear you, I can hear the monologue. Yeah.

What the fuck? He did come to my shows, even after we stopped dating, which is weird. Okay. So yeah, we like parked for a while, and we had to wait, and he goes, uh, it'll just be like a few more minutes, and. Weird. And then we waited for a while, and he goes,'ll just be like a few more minutes and weird

And then we waited for a while and he goes he started talking to me a little bit and then he was like alright We're good to go. I think he was just waiting to Clock a time for somebody to mmm. I don't know like when someone gets to work or something I guess but then we went to dinner and he told me about what he does and I was like Did you take me on one of your jobs or whatever? He goes, yeah. I was like, okay.

And then- Emily, this is a movie pitch. Pitch this. Yeah. Girl goes on date with guy, does something weird and then they get, he's a private eye and they get caught up in a thing. Yeah.

And- Hang up the Zoom and pitch the movie. Yeah. Okay. You don't have to podcast anymore. You'll be rich. Oh, but I'll tell you this. I so second date, I was very proud of myself not going home with him on the first day. Second date, went home with him.

He lived with like two roommates and his dresser. I've never seen so many prescription bottles in my life. Yeah. In my life. And I was like, what is all this? He goes, well, this half I need in the morning and this half at night. And I was like, Jesus Christ. He was not quite, he was a lot.

I realized that- Eddie Valiant is similar. He is a alcoholic, or at least it is implied that he is an alcoholic in this movie So, you know, I think being a private eye is not an easy life. That's true What is his top of his dresser drawer, but what my counter in my kitchen looks like of bottles exactly? What's the difference? We were the same. We are the same See, yeah, just just to finish up this little pan across

Eddie's desk, which is like one of the greatest things that's ever been in a movie. You see that him and his brother, there's a photo of them with their dad who's a clown and it's like on the road with dad. So their dad was a clown. You get his whole history, fucking screenwriting. It's so good.

Again, this would all be a fucking dumb flashback in a lesser movie or a movie that was made now. And you just get to see it real quick and you kinda get who this dude is. So we learn the next day that Marvin Acme died last night. They blame Roger, who they think was out to get revenge. And apparently someone dropped a safe on his head. Very, very tune way to kill somebody.

Also very similar to how Bob Hoskins' brother died. Yeah, someone dropped a piano on him. Again, good joke, fun storytelling. So the cops are all there, he did it in Marvin Acme's Joke and Gag Factory. So all the cops are dicking around with all these tune gags. All of these things come back, all of these things are used in the final battle.

There's a portable hole like Wile E. Coyote uses. There's a spring and a boxing glove that comes out of a mallet. And a bunch of little shoes. If you've seen this movie, you know where this is fucking. You know about the shoes. Those little shoes. Into the crime scene walks Judge Doom.

It's Christopher Lloyd. He's the tallest person in the movie. Tallest guy. He's tall as hell. I didn't realize he was that tall. Not the tallest toon in the movie. The tallest toon is the gorilla who's working at the, Right.

The Incan, what is it, Incan Paint Club. That's a tallest ape. The tallest ape, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll get a sting for that. It'll be used once. Yeah. Well, there's probably some King Kong movies you could watch with this. Yeah, that's a good point, we'll get a sting for that. It'll be used once. Yeah Some King Kong movies you could watch We have talked about watching Congo

Probably some tall apes in that okay, so there you go. We're gonna get a lot This is gonna be the new t-shirt for next year tall Make us $40. It'll be on Matt and Matt alone. That's right Like no, it's not me. I just celebrate tall apes. I'm not saying I'm an ape. No, it's just that he's very tall. We should cut all of that. No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't. This is great. Great stuff. This is what people people want. Um, he's got a bunch of cartoon weasels who work for him. Love them. And he had the weasels are hilarious. The weasels are great, they all have a little personality, there's like a straight jacket one, there's like a dumb one with a beanie with a propeller. Zoot suit one.

Zoot suit guy, love the weasels. And he has a new, Dutch Doom has a concoction called the dip that can kill a tune, apparently nothing could kill a tune until now. Picks up this fucking squeaky little shoe, dunks it in the dip. Slowly, slowly. You get to see it, it knows it's dying.

The fucking look on this thing's face, it's scared, it knows what's happening, and you see his colors just kind of drift out into the dip. Our parents had Bambi's mom dying, we had this shoe dying. Yes, 100%, hundred percent a hundred percent It's like taught us about death. Yes It was for me. It was the first time I ever I think watched a movie and contemplated my mortality

Sure. Yeah, and also was a little mad at my parents for like making me watch a movie in which I had to feel This deeply about anything. You know what I mean? Land Before Time is what did that mean. Land Before Time, yeah. That didn't really do it for me. I was just like, well, yeah, they're all- Well, you hate your mother, right?

Yeah. I was like, they're all going to die. They're dinosaurs. Yeah. Meteors coming. I was talking about my mom and dad. They hang out for a couple more weeks, but you're going to get meteored pretty soon. Yeah.

What are you doing being near sharp tooths? You know? That's your first mistake. That's your first mistake. You're looking for sharp tooths. That's funny. Yeah. But no, it's very, I think an iconic scene for most,

at least for our generation, because it is legitimately freaky. Yeah. We learned that there's a struggle for the real estate that Toontown is on and that apparently Marvin Ackme said he was going to will it to the Toons but he cannot find his will. Very film noir, there's always a like dispute about land or property or something. Okay so back at back at back at Valiant, Eddie Valiant he sees that in the pictures he took of Marvin Ackme the

like will is in his pocket This is like very convenient. This is all like very the way this will kind of travels through the movie It's like okay, like why are people like right passing off this piece of paper that they don't think is important Yeah, anyway, but it but you know And and to be fair to the logic of the, you actually are able to trace that piece of paper to its final destination, and it is plausible because it went from Marvin Acme to being a piece of paper that he said, he said, oh, my will is going to be there. Jessica Rabbit goes and gets it. It's blank. So now she's holding on a blank piece of paper.

She leaves it, and then Roger Rabbit is looking for a piece of paper in order to write a love letter and sees a blank piece of paper. It kind of works. Yeah, yeah, it's all like very, but I mean, I think even also if you like, if you watch these movies or if you've read a Raymond Chandler novel, there's a lot

of convenient shit that happens. So it all kind of feels like it's part of the shot. But so Eddie and Roger, they're handcuffed together. The Weasels come in looking for him and they tear apart Eddie's apartment. And this is like, the little things in this scene are so fucking cool.

There is a part where he's know, he's holding Roger underwater because he's washing his dishes, and one of the weasels comes up and splashes. And like, how, how, how? Like, the cartoon hand interacting with the real water and splashing the water, it's just like, and I'm sure that was, I'm sure that took 40 people nine days to shoot. I bet, there's actually a video I saved,

I think in my Instagram, if we ever watch this, and it's a video of how they had Bob Hoskins driving a cartoon car, like how they were able to do it. I'll post that. When we post about this next week, I will post that video so you guys can see how they were able to do it. I'll post that when we post about this next week. I will post that video so you guys can see how they did it. It was really simplistic in a way, but also difficult. They were so smart.

Yeah, incredibly expensive. Incredibly expensive. I think this movie was a pain in the ass to make. I think it was very expensive, but it also made a bazillion dollars, so it totally paid off. And it looks like expensive, but it also made a bazillion dollars, so it totally paid off. It worked out. And it looks like people had enjoyed it,

even though it was a ton of work and exhaustive. It was still like, I'm so glad I get to make this. Like, those kind of things. And it didn't suck, too. That helps a lot. Yeah, and I'll think about it. It's so good. Hey, I'll help make this,

busting my ass for a good movie. That's nice. Busting. I've watched the special helped make this, busted my ass for a good movie. That's nice. Yeah, there's a, I've watched the special features of this and everybody they interviewed, it's just this very, everyone who worked on the movie is this very cold technical guy. Yeah. Like the people when they're talking about the movie

are not passionate, they're just talking about how it was done and like saw this all as a challenge and there's this one dude who I think about a lot when I'm thinking about like how to go at a project. It's the guy who did the music I think. And again, just very like technical dude and he's like, and somebody asked him like,

oh, how did you get the music right for the era? And he's like, the greatest compliment someone can give my work is that it was appropriate. And I'm like, what a neat way to go at a project. Not like, what do I want to say or how can I shine? What can I do that's appropriate? Like, what does this need? Anyway, I just, I love it. I love that.

That's smart. Like, it's not about me. It's about it working into the world of the movie specifically. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, so I think about that, the greatest compliment someone can give my work is that it was appropriate.

Yeah. Wow. So. That's how I feel about like, you know, me working in an office, you know. Yeah, me too. It's like the greatest compliment that someone can give me is that I've been appropriate with all of my coworkers.

Truly, every time I leave Mythical I was like, was I appropriate today? Did I ask before giving the back rub? Am I inappropriate? Cause I get that a lot. Did I not? Did I scream too loud in the bathroom? Why are you screaming?

So this is great. They don't find Roger. He goes to Dolores' to get her to help and get the handcuffs off. So he's trying to saw off the handcuffs and Roger's like, oh, does this help? So he slips out of the handcuffs and holds the box that he's sawing on. And he says, you could have taken your hand out of that cuff at any time? And Roger says, nope, only when it was funny. That's one of my favorite lines in any movie ever. Yeah, I agree completely.

And yeah, it's my favorite line of the movie. It's so funny. It's such a good joke. It's awesome, yeah. It's kind of like when you drop the stings. You could do them at any time. Only when it's funny, yeah. That's right. The joke could drop the stings. You could do them at any time. Only when it's funny.

Yeah, yeah. That's right. The show could be all stings and it would probably be more popular. Yeah, yeah, that's probably true. Yes! Wow! Sorry. What I killed you brother.

You were sitting on that one. That was a good one. When it was the funniest. That's what I waited for. Only when it was funny. There it was. So Jessica comes to Eddie's office. So he is shirtless and he just has his tie on. Bob Hoskins is a very hairy man.

This is weird because you're like, why does he have his shirt off? There's a deleted scene where the Weasels put a cartoon pig head on him and he has to get in the shower to wash it off and you see this pig head slide off his face and go down the drain, really cool. But it explains why he's shirtless here. Oh, I never even thought to ask why he was shirtless. I was just like, you know,

sometimes you're in your office. Yeah, it's a scumbag, yeah. Take a little. Well, I mean, there's like, you remember if you are part of Max Fun, if you're a member and you want to see or listen to some things that we've done, our first episode we ever tried to do was out or frogs. Oh, yeah.

Frogs. And there were all these excuses people made to get Sam Elliott to be shirtless in that movie. And I feel like they did that here with Bob Hoskins. I think it was just, what can we do? To get- People are gonna wanna see it. They're gonna wanna see this boxy, hairy cockney guy.

I also love that he was like, I could wax or shave, but nah, dog, this is how I look. And I gotta tell ya, that is very sexy. I don't know. Sure. It's just, he looks soft. He's absolutely daddy. I mean, that is very sexy. I don't know. It's just, he looks soft. He's absolutely daddy. I mean, that's for sure. Daddy for daddy.

He's zaddy. Daddy, zaddy, zaddy, raddy. Tell us. Any, all the addies. All the addies. So yeah, so this is happening in kind of Dolores' back room. Judge Doom comes in. Roger's hiding, but he taps, shaving a haircut on the walls

and Roger has to come out and go two bits. And that's when he tries to dip Roger, but he's like, we're gonna give him one last drink. And that's cause you know, we saw in the earlier when he gets the drink, he goes crazy. Love Roger just splashing the whiskey in his face. Goes crazy, gets out and then they escape. And Benny the Cab, this is Roger's kind of like,

and again, so Benny the Cab, a little bit like Baby Herman, just got the New York voice. Kind of this, it's this guy. They grew up together. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, we had so many of those characters

in like media growing up. So many of this guy. Yeah. Hey, it's me, New York. The Musinex booger. Yeah, yeah. Sure. Yeah.

That's my favorite guy. Yeah, sure. New York's favorite son. You know, listen, New York loves Martin Scorsese. That's right. Not the Rolling Stones. You know what I'm doing. And then the Musinex booger.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rolling Stones are British. A second one and then the third joke. And then the third joke. And then the third joke. And then the third joke. And then the third joke. And then the'm doing. And then the Musinex Booker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rolling Stones are British. A second one and then the third joke. And then the third one. And then the Musinex Booker.

Yeah. Anyway, so it's Benny the Cab. There's this big chase scene. Benny's just making small talk. He's going, how about them Brooklyn Dodgers? What a bunch of bums, huh? So they hide out. So they escape and they hide out in the movies.

And they're watching a goofy cartoon like a roller coaster. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies.

And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the movies. And they're like bums, huh? So they hide out, so they escape and they hide out in the movies and they're watching a goofy cartoon, like a real goofy cartoon. And again, just one of the little things I love in this is Roger loves goofy and he's complimenting the whole time. And that's how you fucking know that Roger is the best because he's not professionally jealous of goofy.

You know, like he can appreciate it. That's how you know that Roger's good best because he's not professionally jealous of Goofy. He can appreciate it. That's how you know that Roger's good. Well, he's a communist. Yeah, that's right. Also, I think we've learned that Goofy is a suspected communist. I love Goofy. He's a fellow traveler. If he's ever going to be jealous of anyone, it's Bugs Bunny.

They don't hang out. They don't hang out. Women not supporting women. Yeah, Bunny's not supporting Bunnies. He's a guy, real guy is Bunny. So yeah, we, it's also that little line Jessica, Jessica says to him, you're the best I've ever had, even better than Goofy.

So like, there's a history there. Yeah. What? Yeah. I missed that. Better than Goofy. I bet Goofy fucks. Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. I know it. He's also like the tallest of all of the Disney characters.

Gorsh. Gorsh. Gorsh, I sure love eating your pussy. Yeah, Goofy fucks Pluto. When he comes, he goes, yeah. And he has to play a little record that teaches him how to fuck. So you want to fuck. So you want to fuck, yes.

First remove your trousers. I think it's all tangled in his trousers. Also brush your tooth. Before kissing the lady. He's got a kid, he's got Max. Yeah, that's right. So he's fucked at least once. He fucks, dude, and honestly though,

I could see Jessica Rabbit and Goofy creating Max. Kind of looks like, you never really meet Max's mom, do you? She's dead, she's dead in the world of a Goofy movie. Whoa. Although, how old is Goofy though, because this is happening in the 40s right so and there's no time in Toontown that's a good point there so if they're not dipped they live forever so right there you go okay this all makes sense

could you imagine all right fan art weirdos get drawn we want to see Goofy and make sure to make it Go dick is thick. It's a thick It's long too it's like a unit so We learned that our art. Oh RK maroon gets shot in all of this and Eddie Eddie Chases the shooter into toontown. He's finally gonna do it. He's finally gonna go into toontown After pledgingging never to return, he takes out this cartoon gun. And I noticed something on this watch

that I had never noticed before. When he opens the case of the cartoon gun, there's a little tag that says, from Yosemite Sam, thanks for getting me out of the Huskow. So fucking funny, you can watch this movie a million times, still catch something. That's so cool, I watch this movie a million times, still catch something. That's so cool. I didn't see that. There's always a new, I also learned a new thing, which is he, Roger Rabbit says something

about his, I think his uncle Thumper or his grandfather Thumper. Oh, right. This is the probate thing. Yeah. Yeah. My uncle. Yeah. My uncle Thumper had to check his probate. He had to take these big pills and drink lots of water. Oh, yeah. Not prostate probate. And I was like, wait a second. Thumper. Oh, yeah. Is Roger Rabbit a nepo baby? Oh, he's a mankowitz. He's a mankowitz.

That's crazy. But hey, as long as he owns it, we're all okay. As long as he owns it. Exactly. I never my uncle never helped me get an audition Anyway, so he's going into Toontown. He has his cartoon gun. Yeah, we got a problematic Native American bullet in there So, you know, whatever 88 So but he he'd use it to shoot his bottle of whiskey. He's off the stuff, and he's back. He goes around Toontown.

There's this corny, ugly woman that chases him around. Yeah, Lena the hyena. Lena the hyena. Another core memory of mine, which was that sometimes women will chase you, trying to kill you with kisses. Yes Yeah, and they'll have just and they'll just start kissing the air Hey Matt, could you get the who we'd play staying up?

Who would you play I would play that crazy bitch I don't think that like I'd like to think that I'm Jessica Rabbit, but nah, I'm that lady. You've got Jessica Rabbit's hair, but at the same time, so does Lena the hyena has that hair too. Yeah, I mean from behind. And you're always kissing the air. You're always just kissing the air.

Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Climbing the walls, just like, gah! Like, I think that from behind, I look pretty good, but from the front, hot mess. Coming at ya. Wait, we're almost to the thrilling conclusion of Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and we're gonna talk about it right after this. We're back.

It's Free With Ads. We're talking about the thrilling conclusion of Roger Rabbit. So yeah, he's running through Toontown. He falls off the building. Oh, Tweety Bird. He grabs onto a pole. Tweety Bird takes his hand, takes his fingers and goes, one little pity, two little pity? Oh no, I ran out of pities. Also, it's kind of a little moment, it's like, hey Tweety, so we just kind of know he has a relationship with the Toons.

That's when we get kind of Bugs and Mickey doing this gag with the parachute. They say, you want our spare? He says, give it to me. And it's a spare tire, very funny. Bugs is an asshole, we love him. And then he gets saved. He gets saved by Jessica Rabbit. She's figured out that it's Doom that's been doing this. Kind of funny if you think about it. She solves the mystery.

Like off camera, she figures it out. So it's like she's had this other little movie that's been happening. Well it's kind of like the femme fatale usually knows all the secrets anyway, but she doesn't turn out to be the villain. Like oftentimes the femme fatale has a hand in, you know. And they must be punished.

Yes, but she's just like, I'm super smart and I'm drawn like I'm supposed to be a bad guy, but that's right Yeah, I'm not that way. She's not bad. She's just drawn that way another line from this movie Yeah, another back tattoo of the most difficult relationship you've ever had It's Kathleen Turner who's the voice Kathleen Turner. No, what a voice and it's better Oh, yeah, cool. She was so funny, I was auditioning for a commercial once and she was just there, hamming it up in the whole, there were multiple audition rooms

that she was just walking in going, I hope you all get the job. Hey. Ha ha ha ha ha. Like walking around I was like, that bitch is a legend. I love her so much. And in this, I'm so glad that this movie is like, voice actors and not like, celebrity cameos.

Cause like, if they did this movie right now, Roger would be fucking Chris Pratt doing the one voice that he does. But like, I'm so glad it's just voice actors. But she's like, a celebrity stunt cast and she's perfect. She's so good. Oh my God, it's Dipp! That like, delivery on that.

That scared me, that line. Me too. You felt god, it's Dip! That delivery on that. Just incredible. That scared me, that line. Me too. You felt how scary it was. So, yeah, oof. Yeah. Because it's the only time she really raises her voice. Right.

You know, it's like she's usually. And she's so cool, but she's scared there. You know, you can tell. Yeah, she's not scared of shit until then. Yeah. So yeah, so they try to get away. They spill some Dip on the road, and Benny the Cab skids out.

Aw. So he's hurt, and he gets in a car and drives a car. I know! But he is a car. Yeah. So great. Nothing is funnier than that. Nothing is funnier than that.

Absolutely nothing is funnier than that. Jessica and Roger get kidnapped. They get tied up at the joke factory. We learn that Judge Doom's plan is to build a freeway. He bought the streetcars in LA. He's gonna put a freeway through Toontown all the way to Pasadena. And this is a real thing that happened in LA.

A fucking evil company bought the public transit and then put the free like this is all just shit that happened. I love that this is just pro public transit this whole movie. Yes, yes it's this is a communist movie I love it. For sure yeah. No but it is like something they would like that the like McCarthy hearings would have uncovered. Yes. This movie. 100%. And you know, it's like, they even, you know, at the, when the movie ends, they're like, well, what are we going to do? You know, next time some, you know, evil developer comes to town or something. And I was just like, they're talking about the evilness of big developers.

This is the most based movie I've ever seen. Yes. But like, you know, also the red car stuff, growing up, this was like so fascinating to me. It was the first time I ever found myself interested in the idea of watching like a historical drama or a historical anything type of movie. Because I was like, oh yeah, there are freeways everywhere. And right near my house were these abandoned train tracks. And I always wondered like, did we have a train going through here? And it turned out it was There are freeways everywhere and right near my house were these abandoned train tracks And I always wondered like did we have a train going through here and it turned out it was an abandoned red car line

That used to run on the west side, and I just was like this movie just taught me my own local history It's a movie about cartoons and people and same movie. It's it's crazy. It is such a great, oh, I love it. So, Roger and Jessica are tied up. We learned that Judge Doom is a toon and the one who killed Eddie's brother. So his eyeballs pop, so this terrified me as a kid. Can we first talk about the most, the first most terrifying part is when he gets run over

by that. Yes, yes. What even is that flattening like big weenie? Team roller, team roller, right? Team roller, that, it's just you watch him slowly like go up under it. And he's just screaming, what? And he's screaming.

That is the most terrifying way to die. I constantly think about being crushed under something like that and just slowly watching it inch to your face. Yeah. Terrifying. Yeah, he gets flattened like a cartoon character. He blows himself back up with a helium tank.

And then his eyeballs pop out. I have always hated eyeball stuff in movies. God, between the two. Probably where it comes from. Teeth and eyeballs, fuck no. And he's got these red eyes and he says, when I killed your brother, I talked just like this. Yeah, he said he talked.

He said he talked. There it is. It's so freaky. Eddie Redmayne could never. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, hell, yo. I'm in here! There's this big fight.

They use all of the gags that we saw in the crime scene thing. And then to kill the weasels, because we know from earlier the weasels can die laughing. Eddie starts this like, starts this kind of like circus, calliope thing, and he does this goofy song and dance. The old clown training comes back that he probably got from his dad. Aw, it's so good.

He does this hilarious routine and bonks himself with bowling balls and does a pogo stick, and all the weasels laugh so hard that they die. And obviously Bob Hoskins cannot sing or dance but he's like fucking giving it, you know. He's just so serious and funny. Yeah, and then finally they kill Doom

and the will was written in disappearing reappearing ink and it reappears and we learn that the toons now have possession of toontown. That's right. Everything's great. So we learn that Judge Doom was a toon in a human suit and just melted and they're like, I wonder who he really was and they don't explain it. It rules. Again, in a fucking shitty modern movie there would be a dumb flashback about how Doom was

wounded as a child. And I just love it. Do you ever think we'll find out who he really is? It's really great. I love that he's just a mystery. You can kind of infer what he was after, but I don't know. If it were made today, it would be like,

oh, he was- AI. He was probably just AI. They would say he's Jim Carrey's robotnik or something. You know, they would do another tie-in. They'd be like, oh yeah, it's this other thing. And then when we make the sequel, and it's just like, stop, stop, man. I feel like he's a metaphor

for the live-action Disney movies. Like, you know what I mean? Live-action Beauty and the Beast. That's just, he comes from that. A shitty mask over a beautiful cartoon. That's right. See, I think there's like, that's just, he comes from that. A shitty mask over a beautiful cartoon. That's right. See, I think there are like, the guy who wrote the novel this was based on

has been writing Roger Rabbit novels that I guess like explain shit, and there's one where like Jessica joins the CIA. Maybe I'll become just a total Roger Rabbit weirdo. I had no idea that these were based on a novel. I had no idea. Yeah, it's based on a novel called Who Censored Roger Rabbit. I've never read it.

Apparently it's super different, but then once the movie was a success, the guy just followed the movie continuity and now there's just a novel about Jessica joining the CIA. Fine. So, there's a lot of sequels to this that never got made, but were written. The one that got closest was called Toon Platoon, and it was a prequel about the Toons in World War II fighting Hitler. Cool. Yeah.

God, I want to read it so bad. Yeah, I want to read that too. I want them to make it. Yeah. Wow. And I think the story is that Spielberg was supposed to direct it and said, I can't do it after Schendler's List, so. Fair.

Yeah, but just think about if Spielberg directed a Roger Rabbit prequel about him fighting Hitler. I love it, I love it. Did he do Saving Private Ryan, too? Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, he only does serious World War II movies. You know, he doesn't wanna have a cartoon in there. I don't wanna be bonkinking Hitler with a mallet.

I think we all need to see that. Anyway, yeah, that's the end of the movie. And it ends with Porky going, be a be a be a, that's all folks. Incredible. It's done. Incredible. Hey, we're going to rank who framed Roger Rabbit on scale

of 1 to 10 Super Loud Commercial. But first, we're going to talk about who we were most sexually attracted to. Hey, it's Hunk Watch. It's Hunk Watch. Bob Hoskins, right? Bob Hoskins. Yes.

Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a no-brainer. But I also think, you know, it's outside of Bob Hoskins. Outside of the obvious hottest guy in this movie. Who else? I would say Roger Rabbit. Yeah, uh-huh. I got a sex symbol in his world and in ours. I feel like Roger Rabbit being attractive

to every woman in this movie changed the course of my life. Roger Rabbit is a fuck boy. I don't, like he just. 100% No, he's a wife guy, Emily. Yeah, he's now a fuck boy. I don't like he just. 100%. No, he's a wife guy. Emily. Yeah, he's now a wife guy.

But before Jessica, he was a fuck boy. 100%. Yeah, I think that there is fuck boy in terms of like they fuck you and never call you back. And then there's fuck boy that. Sad boy. Sticks around all the time. Doesn't really offer anything,

doesn't like have a you know, doesn't help around the house. This is not Roger Rabbit you're describing. I think. Yeah, I disagree. Robert is a wonderful husband. OK. How dare you? OK. Be right. Probably doesn't help clean up around. I don't know. It's nothing to tell, his ass stinks. I just know it.

I just have a feeling he's stinky boy. But. With his filthy towels laying around. Yeah, me and also being obsessed with Bob Hoskins back hair, I don't care how much he stinks. I want him bad. Yeah, but I was always, I think, amazed.

There was something that stuck with me forever Which was when Bob Hoskins when Eddie Valiant is asking Jessica Rabbit? What do you see in this guy and then she just goes he makes me laugh and I was like, oh, it's that it Is that is that what you have to do if you if you look? Not like a hot guy or whatever, like classically hot. If you only have a bow tie and giant pants. Well, she also says he's a good lover. She also says.

Well, right, but I mean, that's the thing. To get to that point, you first have to make someone laugh. And so, yeah, anyways, changed the course of my life. And at some point, I hope to be funny so that I can have sex. Just kidding. That'd be cool. But to be an attractive woman,

you have to have big tits, red hair. And guess what? Good with a gun. This changed my life too. The patriarchy still exists even in Toontown. Yeah, pretty much. Well, yeah, we're going to rank who framed Roger Rabbit on a scale of one to 10 super loud commercials. Oh oh when we come back We're back, it's free with ads, we're going to rank who framed Roger Rabbit on a scale of 1 to 10 super loud commercials. Yeah, I'll wrap it up because this is, you know, I'm so insane for this movie.

But it sounds like we all kind of are, so maybe it doesn't matter. Emily, you want to go first? It's a t are, so maybe it doesn't matter. Emily, you wanna go first? It's a tippy-10, baby. Mm-hmm. All the way. Yeah, all the way. It's been a while since we've had a tippy-10. Yeah, yeah.

I'm giving it a 10 as well. As I was watching it, I was just like, this is so much better than I remember. Like, I remember loving it, and then watching it as an adult, I was just blown away. So yeah 10 obvious Yeah, I Something in our show's history

There has been one 11 given out by Matt Lieb when we watched death becomes her. Oh, yeah another Robert Zemeckis movie That's kind of about Hollywood too So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and instigate. I'm gonna use my Floating Eleven for this movie. Because it was, you get me on the right day, my favorite movie of all time. So yeah, I'm gonna give Who Framed Roger Rabbit

the Floating Eleven. I will not be whipping this out on the reg. I will not be whipping this out for Alien versus Predator Requiem or whatever we watch next. But yeah, Rufrin, Roger Rabbit, it's the fucking best. Yeah. All right, that's that part of the show. Now it's time for the plug part of the show.

The best part of the show, the plug. Everyone's fast forwarded to this moment. I got something. What do you got? I can't tell you about it yet. Oh, this moment. I got something. What do you got? I can't tell you about it yet. Oh, a tease. Something's coming. You have a tease.

I said, things coming and it's my own show. Where will it be? Oh. You don't know. You don't know where it'll be, but I've never had my own show. I hope Peacock. Yeah, then no one will watch it. But yeah.

But it's it's Yellowstone and me, bitch. No, I will tell you all more when I'm allowed to say more. But I've never had my own show ever of anything of any sort. And it's I'm very, very very excited but I'll share with you later so just stay tuned folks. Okay well I have a show. Matt so many shows. Yeah but it's just a stand-up comedy show so it is less interesting but still something

you could come to my wife and I'm alive will be at the ice house. You're Jessica you're come to. My wife and I, I'm alive, will be at the Ice House. You're Jessica, you're Jessica Rabbit. My very own Jessica Rabbit, and I will be at the Ice House in Pasadena, Wednesday, February 19th at 7.30 p.m. Please be there, we have a great lineup of comics. I'll be there, I wanna come.

Hell yeah, come. It is gonna be Ice House in Pasadena, Wednesday, February 19. Tickets will be in the bio. And I've got some comic book stuff to tell you about. I've got two books coming out in the next couple months that I'm really excited about. Web of Spider-Verse, New Blood, a Spider-Man anthology that I have a story in with the

great artist Sumit Kumar. That comes out on March 5th and I'm going to be signing those books at a bunch of cool places in California. On the 5th I will be at Arsenal Comics in Newberry Park, 5 to 6.30. On the 9th of March I will be at Golden Apple Comics in Hollywood, 1 to 3 p.m. And on March 15th, I will be at Cape and Cowl Comics in Oakland from 1 to 3. So come on out. All right. Get one of those comics signed.

We might have some special guests at some of those. So stay tuned. And, you know, while you're grabbing your copy of Web of Spider verse New Blood, make sure you preorder Godzilla versus L.A. This is a Godzilla comic where he visits LA and all the proceeds go to wildfire relief. So cool comic, good cause. I got a story in it with one of my favorite comic book artists of all time, Nicole Goh.

She of Shadow of the Batgirl, Fuck Off Squad, Pet Peeves, some of my favorite recent comics. I'm so, so excited to be collaborating with her on this. We've got a cool Godzilla story that is set in a legally dissimilar version of Universal Studios. So yeah, make sure you pick up Godzilla Versus LA and Web of Spider-Verse New Blood.

And oh yeah, oh my God, so there's free with ads merch. We've talked about it a long time. We need to be talking about it every episode. Maxfunstore.com, t-shirts, pine glasses, hats that say the worst hat. Buy them and you support the show and you get something that looks cool too. Okay.

Tune in next week when our movie will be Tremors.