Frequent Miler on the Air - Packing tips for international travel | Ep168 | 9-17-22
Episode Date: September 17, 2022With a good deal of countries and continents under their belts, Greg and Nick have picked up some great tips for your international trips when it comes to packing your bag. This week we are currently ...on our #3Cards3Continents worldwide trips -- and with this episode you'll be able to imagine what we have in our bags. 5:04 Main Event: Packing tips for worldwide travel 07:43 A travel wallet in Greg's travel backpack 09:43 Get a good-quality bagpack / bag that is your go-everywhere bag 12:03 That backpack should have a lot of zippered pockets 13:13 Things you should keep in that backpack (A small carabiner for water bottle or sanitizer on backpack, small poncho, extra set of chargers that stay in travel bag, earbuds, snacks, at least one pen) 16:50 Single charger for laptop and phone and battery pack / earbuds / etc 23:12 Quick-dry clothes 27:04 Puffy jacket that collapses into itself 27:52 Hoodie with many pockets for flights on low cost carriers 28:37 Toiletry kit always fully-stocked 31:00 backup phone
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Let's get into the giant mailbag.
What crazy thing did City do this week?
It's time for Mattress Running the Numbers.
Ready for the main event?
The main event.
Frequent Liler on the air starts now.
Today's main event, packing tips for worldwide travel.
That's right. Tips for your trips, folks.
This was the third take that we're not actually
publishing all the other takes, but I had a lot of trouble saying packing tips instead of packing
trips. And so I think I finally said it, but it was kind of awkward the way it came out.
Tips for your international trips. We could have made it a little rap, Greg. We could have the Greg the Frequent Miler rap there. So we are recording this a week ago, a little over a week ago.
We are currently on our Three Cards, Three Continents Worldwide Extravaganza Challenge trips.
Assuming that Greg didn't test positive for COVID anyway.
We are.
That's right.
And if you don't know about that, then you should go back and listen to last week's show.
If you've been following us on Instagram or the blog, you know, what's been up with us,
but we don't because we are, we are coming to you from the past and we had to record this in
advance because we didn't know when we would be able to get together at the same time and have
internet and all that kind of stuff during the trip. And so, you know, for all I know,
Stephen's on the moon right now. Nick is in Antarctica somewhere. And I don't know,
I'm on a rowboat somewhere. I don't know. We're going to find out. You're going to find out.
Hopefully, you know, because you've been following us on Instagram because that's the best place to
follow along for the trip. If you haven't done it yet, it's not too late because we're about midway through the trip. So there's still like almost another week to go of travel for all of
us, I think at this point. So you want to go to Instagram, find Frequent Miler, follow our stories,
because that's really going to be the best way to see what's happening. Of course, if you've been
reading the blog, then you've read about some of the things we've done, but I think it's a lot more
fun to follow along with the story. So you want to make sure you check that out. And of course, because we're
coming to you from the past, I still have laryngitis. Hopefully I don't really, hopefully
when you see me on our Instagram story, I sound like a normal human being, but this week I'm stuck
sounding a little bit like, uh, like this still. And hopefully by next week or by the time you get
to our Instagram story, then, uh, things will have improved significantly. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Nick, what's your guess of what continent I'm in
right now, where, where now would be Saturday when, when the show drops?
I think so, you know, I really, I feel like you have to be flying to Asia first. But then you were talking on last week's show about trying to stay
farther north so that you didn't have to go as much distance. So I'm really kind of confused
as to where you'll be that's far enough north that's in Asia that's open. But I am going to
guess you're going to be in Asia. and I'm going to even get more specific
and say, I think you're probably in South Korea right now.
Okay. All right. Well, that's pretty North in Asia. That would make sense.
And so I'm going to guess, let's see, I believe that you're going extraordinary distances. I think maybe you are going east from when you take off in New York. So you're probably going to start off maybe in Europe and then head, um, yeah, I'm guessing you're not
going to go into Africa, but I don't know about that, but let's say you're going to go
spend some time in Europe and then, but by now you should be further past that initial place.
So I'm going to guess you are somewhere in Asia, probably somewhere in the Philippines, I'll say.
Okay. All right. There's a guess for Saturday at when this
publishes, right? September 15th. So you'll have to check our Instagram story and see where we
actually are. Actually, I realized I should have got, cause I was thinking you're leaving a few
days after me. So I was thinking you'd still be in Asia. Maybe I should have given you credit
for getting as far as India. So I just hedged there with two guesses. But anyway, we'll see.
You got to find out. See,
that's how little we know. I have no idea for sure where Craig is going or when. He doesn't
know where I'm going or when or what. So check out the Instagram story so that you will know
where we are. Right. We probably have a good idea of where we ourselves are.
Right. Unless something has derailed our trip, which we don't know.
Right. Right. Listeners know. trip, which we don't know. Right. Right.
Listeners know.
You will know if you've been following Instagram. Yeah, you have an edge. So you can see if we're even close, if we might, because you may not know where we are yet, like today when this publishes, because maybe we haven't even announced that yet, but you may have a guess as to where we could be heading. So we'll see. Right, right. All right, let's get into our main event.
We are skipping all the usual segments
because we just don't have time, actually.
As we said, we're recording this
before we're leaving for our trips.
Nick is running off to the airport.
He's practically out the door as we're recording.
Crunch time, crunch time, yes. It's total out the door as we're recording. Crunch time. Crunch time.
It is total crunch time. So we're doing a short show. And today's show is packing tips for
worldwide travel. We've both traveled around the world or even domestically a lot compared to
most people, I'd say. And I think over time, we've developed different
packing habits and some of them have stuck because they've proven to be really, really useful.
And some are new that we've adopted based on recommendations from others or what have you.
And so we're going to talk about some of our favorite packing tips that make actually worldwide
travel easier.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that the more you do it, the better you get.
And so, you know, getting some practice in is really helpful.
I actually had read a story I saw on like Yahoo a couple of months ago, and it was like,
you know, eight things you need and three things you don't.
Or like, I just took an international trip.
Here's eight things you need and three things you don't or something like that. And I read the article
and the author, it was her first time traveling internationally. And I thought, I mean, okay,
but you know, like she's basing this on one flight on one trip. I don't know as though that advice is
necessarily broadly applicable or won't change as she takes a few more trips. So I definitely think that a
little bit of experience helps in that regard. Now, as somebody who's experienced traveling with
two kids, my first tip for packing is don't have kids or don't bring them on your trip.
You end up bringing a lot more stuff when you have to travel with kids. So that's tip number
one is, you know, don't travel with the kids. Well, you know, I love traveling travel with kids. So that's tip number one is don't travel with the kids. Well,
I love traveling with my kids. And so I'm being a little bit facetious, but yeah, I definitely
had an easier time packing when it was just my wife and I.
For sure. No doubt at all. And I've had the kid and he's now grown. And so I'm back to-
Now he's got to pack himself. Exactly.
These are adult only travel and it makes a difference.
And if you have any quick tips for packing for kids, I'm sure people would appreciate
that.
But let's get to that sort of at the end if you do.
And let's jump into the ones that are relevant to everybody. One thing that kind of changed my travel life in a very
positive way is when I started carrying a travel wallet in my travel backpack. And you might wonder,
what does that mean, a travel wallet? Because I'm not talking about a wallet that I wear, like that I carry in
my pants when I'm traveling, I'm talking about a place to keep all of the cards, identifications
and vaccine cards and things like that, that are only really relevant when you travel. And I just
keep them all in that one place in a wallet that is sort of hidden in my
backpack. And it includes my passport, includes my vaccination cards. It includes hotel gift cards.
Like, so, you know, I have some miscellaneous gift cards that can only be used when I happen
to be at a Marriott or a Fairfield or, you know, Fairmont or what have you.
And it's the worst feeling when you show up at one of those and you realize, oh, I left that
thing at home because, well, who would carry that in the regular day-to-day wallet all the time?
You know, I wouldn't, but I would carry it in my travel wallet. Other things in there,
there's some credit cards that are only useful. Again, like there are hotel
credit cards, for example, that are only very rewarding when you're using them at the hotel.
Like, you know, the old IHD card before it revamped, it earned 10x at hotel, at IHD hotels,
but only like 1x everywhere else. Now it earns 3x, so it's not too bad. But 10X is great.
So having that card when you're actually in an IHD is a great thing. So have that in your travel
wallet. That's an example. Also any cards that get you into lounges like an Amex Platinum card,
a Capital One Venture X, or your Priority Pass card are all good things to have in there.
I think on this note, and I don't mean
to cut you off. So if you, okay. I think this is part of the argument for getting a backpack that
you love or a bag that you love that you're going to bring everywhere because you know, in my life
before I bought, so I, we talked not that long ago, I don't know, a few weeks ago about how we
both have these to me backpacks that we really like.
And I bought mine used on Craigslist for like a hundred bucks.
So I didn't even spend the, you know, the large amounts that the, I know they're quite
expensive full price if you don't get a good deal on them.
But I didn't pay that much more than I normally would for a backpack, of course.
But before I did that, I never knew which bag I was going to bring on a trip, right?
Because I had a different, a couple of backpacks, a couple of carry-on bags. And there wasn't one that was always mine and always going
with me. But once I bought a backpack that I was really happy with, this became much easier because
now that stuff, exactly like Greg says, there's a specific pocket in the backpack where that stuff
always is. And so there's never a situation where I'm like, Oh, I'm taking an international trip. Oh my goodness. Where's my passport? Because my passport is always in that
pocket in that bag. And it doesn't take up a lot of room. And there's a, I, in this particular
backpack, there's a pocket that I find really useful for that because it's hidden away.
And so it doesn't get in my way at all. I can just have it in there until I need it. I can
still carry the backpack on other days if I want to, without worrying about losing anything out of it because it's tucked away, zippered away in a pocket that
I'm not going to touch otherwise. And so I think it's helpful if you have that, because otherwise
I would misplace the wallet probably. Like if I just had the wallet somewhere at home,
I wouldn't know where it is. But the fact that that's in a specific spot in the bag I take with
me every time, I think is part of an in a specific spot in the bag I take with me every time,
I think is part of an argument for getting a good quality bag of some sort that you're going to
feel that way about, um, because it does help keep things more organized.
Absolutely. A hundred percent. That's, that's another like key packing tip that I, that I think
is absolutely essential is having your, your go-to go everywhere backpack. And,
uh, I mean, yeah, it could be like a shoulder bag or something, but I just think backpacks are way
better because then your arms are free, uh, to carry things and, you know, pick up your phone
and do the boarding pass, uh, and all that kind of stuff that you got to do. The backpack needs to have, as Nick said,
it should have lots of pockets, ideally zippered pockets so that things don't fall out when the
backpack is turned upside down as it will be when you put in the overhead bin and then you close the
bin and everything flops over. And it needs to be, of course, rugged enough
that it's not going to rip.
But there's also some great, nice-to-have features
that I have in my backpack.
It's self-standing.
You put it down, it doesn't flop over.
And I don't know.
It's hard to explain why that's so useful,
but I just find that incredibly useful. It is because you want to get something out of it and it's hard to explain why that's so useful, but I just find that incredibly
useful.
It is because you want to get something out of it and it's there standing next to you
instead of having to like, oh, I got to lift it up.
I got to like lean it so that I can reach inside and get what I need.
Instead, it's just sitting next to you.
So I like that too.
And that's something that I hadn't even dawned on me until you mentioned it.
And I was like, oh yeah, that is why this is so convenient.
It's never flopping. It's right next to me now. And it's standing up. I could reach
into it easily to get something. I don't need two hands. I can do it with one. Right. Right.
And so just like keeping a travel wallet in that backpack is to me an essential thing to do.
There's other things that you should keep like in my mind, always stocked in that backpack.
That's your go everywhere bag.
Um, make sure you have a water bottle.
Um, and it should be one that again, doesn't leak if it's turned upside down, because this
thing will get turned upside down.
Preferably one that is frequent Mylar branded.
Um, very important.
Get up at zazzle.com.
That's right.
That's right.
But you know, on the water bottle front, you mentioned that and you said something that
closes well so that it doesn't, excuse me, spill on everything.
But I've come up with a different solution that I use for the water bottle.
And that is that I get a carabiner.
I get a couple of these, like if you're watching on YouTube, I put it in front of my face,
you'll see this little carabiner here.
And I just hang the water bottle off of the carabiner.
Then I don't have to actually put it in the bag.
So there's less of a chance of it getting anything wet.
It also frees up more space in the bag.
So I have these little carabiners on both sides of my backpack and I got a black one
that matches.
I actually have a silver one, I think on the other side, cause I was too lazy to hook up
the other black one.
But they come in handy for hanging both of course course the water bottles, but also sometimes other things.
Uh, my kids' cups I've hung on there and, uh, even shoes, if it's got like a, a very, uh, thin
strap I've put on there. So, uh, that can be something that, you know, enables you to carry
some things that either you don't want to put in the bag, or if you need a little extra space,
shopping bags, even I've hooked on there. Uh, you know even i've hooked on there uh yeah no that's a great tip um i use one for uh things like a uh a little hand sanitizer
that hangs from from that clip and so it's just handy because it's just right there when you need
it um but i also keep in that backpack uh at, at all times of pair of sunglasses, um, a
rain jacket or rain poncho that folds up and really tiny.
Um, I, all of my phone electronics.
So like, for example, I don't keep a charger at home and then pack it.
I have a separate charger that goes with me everywhere because if I didn't, I would half the time forget
it. And that's just not a good idea, obviously. And so that includes having extra cables for
anything you need to charge and also other electronics, like if you listen to music and so keep earbuds in that backpack.
I keep snacks.
So, you know, granola bars, for example, always ready because you just never know when you're
going to be really hungry and not have food available.
And at least one pen. So sometimes, even though in this modern
age, I very rarely write anything every now and then, you do need that pen and just having a
small pen in the backpack is really handy. Yeah. And you mentioned the small pen. I took
mine right out of a Delta amenity kit. And so it's like, I was going to try and grab it here,
but yeah, that's what I carry too.
Delta has these tiny little pens that are in there. There are many kits. So I love those for
a travel backpack. It's great. Great option. So yeah. So there was something else that came to
mind when you were talking about the travel backpack a second ago and the pockets, the food, the earbuds. Oh man, there was something else I was going to say about that.
And I lost my train of thought. How about, how about, how about the single travel charger for
all your devices? That's what it was. So you mentioned the travel charger that you keep in
there. And so for this specific trip, if you listen to last week's show, you heard me talk
about how I bought a new computer. And for me, one of the requirements for the new computer is it had to be able to charge via USB-C. And the reason for that is I didn't want to have to carry
a separate power adapter for the laptop. I wanted to be able to carry one power adapter
that could charge both my phone and my laptop. And so hold on.
Yeah. If you're watching on YouTube, then you'll see this because I actually have my phone
plugged in here.
So I have one of these pretty standard chargers.
I got it on Amazon.
It's got three USB-C inputs and one regular USB-A.
Yeah.
I'll describe for people who are used to what the iPad charger, the wall component,
it looks exactly that size, what Nick's holding,
except it has three openings for USB ports.
Or is it four?
Well, four altogether, three USB.
Four altogether openings for USB
instead of the one that the traditional iPad plug has.
And just like the iPad plug,
the part that plugs into the wall,
the actual prongs fold up, right?
And so that's nice because it's easier for packing,
but it's also nice because this particular one
comes with a couple of attachments.
Now, I'm not usually a fan of attachments.
In this case, I am, and I'll explain why.
It has a couple of international attachments
that just slide onto it. So if I'm visiting someplace with one of the UK style plugss are often one next to the other.
And so this won't cover any other outlets
the way that it's designed.
So it was a kind of a smart attachment, I thought.
And then the other reason I liked that
is because I've normally carried
an international travel adapter,
like the ones that I'm sure many of you have
that you can plug into
and then you have the different can plug into. And then you
have the different prongs that'll come out to fit in different outlets. Well, I've always brought
that. But the problem I had on my last trip was that my, uh, the charging brick that I had,
like my iPad, like charging brick that I plug things into is pretty heavy. And so there were
times when I would plug into an outlet and this would be falling out of my adapter. And so being able
to eliminate the adapter is kind of nice. I can plug right into the international outlets with
this. And the, of course, advantage now is that everything I'm carrying with me can be charged
via USB, my computer, my phone, my earbuds, all of it, my selfie stick, that's got a Bluetooth thing
and a light on it. All of those things can be charged
with just this one single adapter. So I don't need the international adapter because I don't
have to plug anything else in. Right. That's sweet. I need to get one of those for myself
because I do have an international adapter that I like a lot. It has four USB prongs and it also
has a surge protector built in. And so I can use it for everything, but it does
have that problem you mentioned of it's kind of heavy and I put it in the wall, it starts like
kind of drooping down. And so it doesn't maintain a connection often. And when that happens, like
in hotel rooms, I'm often stacking things like tissue boxes or whatever underneath it to keep it
upright so that it maintains the charge.
And having one light enough to not have to worry about that would be a big win, not to mention saving space.
So the charger itself in this one is not particularly light, but because of the way that these clip on,
it clips on in kind of a firm way that I think it's less likely to have
that problem. And certainly less likely than if I have this heavy adapter plugged into another
adapter, man, because then you're just adding extra weight, dragging it down. So it's one less
thing. The other reason I bought this specific one is because it'll put out a hundred Watts max.
If you only plug in one thing at a time, and if you plug in two, then it will put out a hundred or 65 on one
and 30 on the other. And so that's enough, the 65 on one and 30 on the other that it will charge my
laptop at regular full speed and also quick charge my phone. So I thought that that was particularly
useful. It puts out enough power that I can still get things charged relatively quickly. That's super useful. I love that everything is
starting to standardize on USB-C so that you can do that kind of thing. I mean, you could do that
with any USB plugs, but this way you also don't have to take lots of different cables with you
for all the different devices. For me as an iPhone guy,
I still need my iPhone charging cable.
It still will plug into one of those,
but I still need that separate cable.
And I still carry an old Kindle.
That's the old USB micro or mini or something.
And so, yeah, so I carry a number of different
cords, but I'm looking forward to the day when everything will be USB-C. We'll see.
Yeah, very good. Well, I see that's why part of the reason I'm an Android guy,
very easy, all the same cables for everything. So, you know, that's one of the things I like about
this is that everything is interchangeable
in this setup in terms of my cords, my adapters.
And I always bring a battery pack too.
I bring a larger battery pack than most people do.
Mine's kind of big and heavy and clunky.
And so it may not be the one that you want.
I carry it because I can charge it once and I know it'll charge my phone like probably
four times before I need to charge it again.
And this one also does power
delivery. So it will put out enough power to 65 Watts in order to charge the laptop also.
So I carry that, but that's a bit of overkill probably compared to what most people want to
carry. All right. Very good. So, all right. So we've got all our electronics in our backpack, the essential backpack, the travel wallets
in there, some sort of universal travel chargers in there.
Outside of the backpack, we also have pack usually, a suitcase of some type.
And one of the things that I like to always carry with me are quick dry clothes.
So, you know, I have T-shirts and boxers, for example, that dry very, very quickly.
And the nice thing about that is I can pack, you know, half the number of T-shirts and, you know and underwear that I normally do. And in a hotel room or wherever I am,
it's very easy to wash them out in the sink. I just use the shampoo that's in the room as soap
and wash it, hang it up on a, usually there's a hanger if you're in a hotel room. I literally put it on a hanger and just hang it somewhere. And it inevitably is completely dry the next day. And that's something I started doing because of the 40K to far away trip in 2019, where I literally had all of my clothes that I was taking with me stuffed into my little tiny backpack. But I started doing this
thing with these quick dry clothes for all my trips because it's great to cut down on how much
you have to bring. Yeah, it is. And on that same note, I am testing out something that I was
curious about because I wanted some quick dry stuff also. And so, you know, doing my research for this coming trip, because the trip that we're on right now, I guess, as this is published,
I wanted to bring as little as possible because I wanted to get everything into a backpack for this trip,
which I know is not the goal for most people, but it was a goal for me.
And so in doing some research, I found lots of people, lots of travelers swear by merino wool
being a fabric that does not pick up odor dries relatively quickly. And so this one particular
company offers a hundred day challenge where you wear the same shirt for a hundred days in a row,
you can wash it and they, they give you a free shirt. So I said, you know what, let me try that
out. I'm curious. And so if you've noticed that I've been wearing the same shirt, that's why.
Because I was trying this out to see if it would work.
And I've tried it at home.
And it seems kind of gross and disgusting to me to wear the same shirt if you don't
wash it day after day.
However, I have been impressed because I have gone in testing five days in a row.
Actually, I think I went six days
in a row without washing it to see, you know, how bad does this thing stink? Like, and how awful
does it feel? And I'm very impressed to say that it doesn't, even after six days, it didn't smell
bad. It didn't feel bad. I just felt a little gross myself. So I finally washed it. Just at
the idea of it. Yeah. Just the idea that I'd been in the same shirt for
six days. But otherwise, I don't think that you would have known that the shirt had been worn for
six days. Maybe I picked up a little bit of my deodorant smell, but beyond that, it just didn't
smell bad. Nobody seemed to notice that I was wearing the same shirt every day. It does show
sweat a lot easier than I would like. However, I posted a picture actually, when I was
testing this out from a playground after running around after my kids and I was all sweaty. And one
of our readers on Instagram wrote a message and said, but it'll be dry in an hour. Wouldn't you
know it? We sat down and ate dinner at a restaurant and certainly in less than an hour, it was totally
dry. So, so I'm bringing just a couple of shirts on this trip, a couple of
Merino wool shirts. I am bringing a couple of other shirts also just in case, but I'm feeling
pretty good about that. That's, that's a great tip. And so I'm looking forward to seeing how
that goes long-term for you, but, um, uh, yeah, it's not something I've, I've invested in per,
uh, personally yet. Um, another thing that, uh, I keep in, and I think you've talked about too,
is I have like a puffy jacket that collapses into itself in its own little pocket that's
built in to a little tiny package. And so, you know, if I'm going somewhere
where it might be cold sometimes, but it's not cold all the time.
I'd love to just throw that into my suitcase because it takes up hardly any room at all.
Yeah. And I'm bringing one of those on this trip also because it's puffy,
but it's also probably pretty good for rain.
Not the best rain jacket ever, but it will at least protect me if it's very rainy.
And like you said, it packs up into such a small little bag
that that's convenient. And I'll bring that when I'm going to be somewhere where I don't know about
the weather also. Along those lines though, another thing I've done is I have a Scotty vest
hoodie that's got a million pockets in it. And that can be useful if you're flying low-cost
carriers and you want to be able to pack away, you know, some of your heavier like battery pack and charger and something that's not going to get weighed.
Right, right. So you put everything into your Scotty vest clothing and then you get onto the airplane without having to pay extra for a carry on. Yeah. And I've done that before. I mean, it's not my usual modus operandi, so to speak,
but I have done it before in order to carry that stuff. And I'll legitimately put the heavier items
in there. Yeah. Yeah. Another thing that I've been doing for years now, and it works so well for me is I keep a toiletry kit fully stocked at all times with everything I
need. So, so that means like, I don't have a toothbrush, for example, that I, that I use at
home and then take with me when I'm traveling. There's a separate toothbrush in my toiletry kit.
There's a separate, like I tend to grind my teeth at night. So I use a mouth guard at night.
I have a separate one that's in my, in my toiletry kit. So just everything that you might
need, you know, do you ever need tweezers for some reason? There's a, there's a, you know,
second one in there and having that just always stocked. I mean, it makes such a huge difference
in how stressful packing before a trip can be, because I don't have to think of it. I mean, it makes such a huge difference in how stressful packing before a
trip can be, because I don't have to think of it. I just think, is everything stocked up? So
I make sure that things that will run out are restocked in there, but it takes away most of the
stress of worrying about, do I have everything I need? It's yeah, it's already there.
Just make sure I have the toiletry kit. Yeah. And I think that's a great idea. And I don't do
as good of a job. I do have the same toiletry kit that I bring every time and it does have
toothbrush and toothpaste in there, but I probably could do better about just making
sure it's restocked when I get back each time. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's the hard part, but, um, you know, it's not that hard
to remember to check it before your, your trip as well. And just to check the few things that do
run out. Um, yeah, that's, I think that's a great tip and that's something that you can just
pack away in a filing cabinet. Uh, or if you have a carry on bag that you often bring or,
you know, suitcase, you just leave it in the suitcase when you pack the suitcase away and you know where it is for next time. So I think that, you know,
I think things like that help reduce the stress of packing, you know, the things that you leave
for every single trip. Exactly. It makes such a huge difference. You know, if all you have to
worry about is which clothes to bring and not have to worry about
the toiletries, not have to worry about, like we talked before, about the electronics, because
you have duplicates of all that stuff in your bag.
One thing we forgot to mention, I carry, and I think you probably do too, is in your
backpack, is a backup phone just in case your primary one dies.
Because phones are no longer like an
optional thing to have when traveling in my mind. I mean, I can't imagine what I would do without
quick access to the internet, to Google Maps and apps like that. So I just find that so essential.
And so having a backup there doesn't have to have service because you can either move your SIM card into it or you can buy a local SIM wherever you're at and get it
running. But just in case to have that there is great. Oh, totally. Yeah. I always carry a backup
phone for all of those reasons. So it's just too useful of a tool. And it's not that you can't buy
a phone anywhere, but I would rather have a phone I'm familiar with. And I know we'll work at home
than buy one somewhere overseas. Yeah. Yeah. And I always have like all my primary apps already
installed on it because even without a SIM card, you can get it on internet. And so you can have
it all set up with your apps, make sure you're able to log in internet. And so you can, you can have it all set up with, with your apps,
make sure you're able to log into everything. And that's an important point because some apps
might not be available depending on where you are. So having them loaded before you've gone
is a good idea. Really good point. Yeah. The, the app store, uh, doesn't, um, work sort of
universally based on where you are. Yeah. Great point. Great point.
Okay. Yeah. I mean, I think those are a whole bunch of great packing tips. Of course, the ultimate tip is if you can fold up in a suitcase like Carrie, and if you don't know
what I'm talking about, you can look up our travel hacks videos on YouTube or life themed
travel hacks and she'll show you how to save 50% on airfare. But we're not going to
unfortunately be able to pull that one off for this trip or for our other trips. So I think those
are some good tips. If readers have more tips, please share your tips with us. I'd love to hear
what your tips are. They'll be too late for me for this particular trip or for us for this
particular trip, but I'd love to hear what hacks and tips you have that could make our travel lives a little bit easier because,
you know, I've certainly picked things up from Greg and from readers along the way that have,
you know, made my life a lot easier when it comes to travel. I'm sure you have more to teach us. So
let us know, share with others in the comments. Absolutely. That would be great.
All right. I think that brings us to the end for
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