Fresh Air - Filmmaker Paul Greengrass on rage, rebellion and ‘The Uprising’
Episode Date: September 3, 2026Paul Greengrass’ new film, The Uprising, stars Andrew Garfield as a 14th-century peasant who, in the wake of the Plague, leads a revolt against the king. It's a history Greengrass grew up learning, ...and now sees parallels with Covid and Jan 6th. “People were left numb, and then this gathering rage …defenseless, and then suddenly you had this enormous rebellion,” he tells Tonya Mosley. Greengrass also reflects on his movie United 93, 25 years after the Sept. 11 attacks.Film critic Justin Chang reviews the new drama Filipiñana. Subscribe to our free weekly newsletter Follow us on Instagram Subscribe to our YouTube channel Check out the Fresh Air ArchivesSee pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. My guest today, director Paul Greengrass, makes films about the choices ordinary people make when they're trapped inside forces they cannot control. He's taken us to the streets of Derry as British soldiers opened fire on civil rights marchers in Bloody Sunday, aboard a hijacked plane on September 11th, and United 93, and onto a cargo ship seized by Somali pirates and Captain Phillips. His new film, The Uprising,
takes on a story familiar to generations of English school children,
the peasants' revolt of 1381.
In the film, the play cut the population in half,
making workers more valuable than ever,
but the ruling class is determined to keep them in their place.
When the government imposes a brutal tax to finance its wars,
tens of thousands march on London.
Andrew Garfield stars as an unnamed farmer called The Plowman.
He's buried his wife and children.
and is deep in debt on land that no longer produces a crop.
As the revolt gathers around him, his private grief becomes political rage.
And in this scene, the radical priest, John Ball, played by Jamie Bell,
offers the plowman a new way to understand his suffering.
God has taken much from him.
God left my fields long ago.
No, he has not left you.
It is his plan.
It's planned.
Why would God have a plan to cause us such pain?
The sickness was his punishment for the crimes of the rich.
Why do we suffer also?
To show us the truth.
And fill us with rage.
Surrender to it.
I never set your fruit.
I saw the uprising earlier this summer.
And since then, just weeks before the September 10th release, the film has taken on a surprising
new frame, The Rise of Robin Hood. Paul Greengrass, welcome back to fresh air.
Very nice to be here again. So Paul, I am very curious about this connection between the
Peasants' Revolt and the story that we know of Robin Hood. Tell me about it. Well, the film is
about the Peasants Revolt, which is one of the greatest rebellions in English history in
1381 in the middle of the medieval world. And it's from that period that the legend of Robin Hood
emerged. And the two are connected because both of them speak to a bitterly divided world between
the rich and the poor. And one of the things that occurred, you know, Robin Hood was really
just a moniker for an outlaw prior to 1381. But after the Peasants' Revolt, that was when the
ballads and the legend of Robin Hood got going and became wildly popular in medieval England
because it spoke to people's desires for a better world, a fairer world, against, you know,
the rapacious rich. And so in the story of this simple farmer, he eventually becomes an outlaw.
And he becomes an outlaw at a time when the Robin Hood legend was getting going and it got going because of the world
that the Peasants Revolt took place in.
This is a story that you grew up learning as a schoolboy.
And it came back up for you, though, during the pandemic.
Correct.
Take me to that place where you're thinking about this story coming back up for you.
Well, yes, I started writing it in the pandemic.
I've been thinking for a while about doing a sort of story rooted in English history
and about sort of resistance and a sort of freedom fighter type film.
And so when the pandemic came and we were all locked down, it just became natural.
What I wanted was to do a story about an ordinary person, an ordinary farmer,
caught up in tumultuous events, events that would feel, I think,
although it's set in the medieval world, would feel very familiar to an audience today.
Because I think in many ways, when you think of the turbulence in our world today,
It is driven by these great inequalities and the rage that people feel about elites
and all those things that wherever you are on the political spectrum,
I think we recognize that that's what's going on in your country and mine and Europe and beyond.
And it just seemed to me that this story really spoke to that.
You know, I was really struck by the fact that, I mean,
we lost more than a million people to COVID in this country.
And during the plague, half of England.
I imagine it really, isn't it?
It is unimaginable.
I mean, when you look back, it's only a few years,
and yet it seems like we haven't really processed it properly.
But I think that's how it goes.
I think these things work in subterranean and mysterious ways.
And it certainly was the case in medieval Europe.
Yeah, take me to that place because, right, we have lost so many people, not so long ago.
And these people, these characters in this,
film are living that same reality.
It is after losing an unimaginable amount of people to the plague.
And one of the things that really struck me is how numb they seem to feel, disassociate it.
Yeah, and this was the first time the plague came to Europe, you know,
and it literally, that we call it in England, or it was called the death, the great plague.
It wiped out literally half the population, literally.
the same in Europe.
And so in the decades after the plague, people were left, as you say, numb and then this gathering
rage at a system that seemingly privileged the rich and the powerful over the weak and the
defenseless.
And, you know, the economy faltered.
Government didn't seem to work.
And in the end, all it took was a spark.
And then suddenly you had this enormous rebellion.
and almost overnight.
It was extraordinary.
And within days, a huge army mob gathering,
whatever you want to call them,
tens and tens of thousands of people marching on London.
And they marched on London,
and they besieged the city, and they got in.
And what followed was...
It all took place, really, over five or six days,
and that's really the story of the film.
The march on London, getting in, the mayhem,
the attempts to factor.
a new form of society, a fairer future, all those things, the hopes and dreams of any rebellion.
It's a kind of classic movie story, really, and a great adventure.
And certainly what I wanted to do was to, you know, not make a dry history lesson.
I like my movies to entertain people and to have spectacle and scale.
The movie certainly does that, but it has all the pieces of, like, there's so many
parallels to what is happening to us in this moment, except for the revolt.
Well, even some elements of that we've seen in your recent history, you know, the invasions in
DC, you know, it's not a million miles away.
The insurrection.
Yeah, I think people, you know, this is, I'm not making a political point.
What I'm saying is that there is a great rage out there, I think, and all of us know it.
It's an underlying rage.
It is.
It is.
I feel it in our country.
I'm sure it's there in yours.
And at some level, our governments seem unable to address it.
And that I think is going to be the big challenge going forward.
You research a film pretty deeply in ways like an investigative reporter, a documentarian does.
And I've wondered about the casting, as you say, because we can't know.
I mean, it's medieval time, so there's not an autobiography written.
But something you have said when you cast Tom Hanks and some of your pretexts,
in some of your previous films.
You've said, you love the every man that he was,
the chance that he can be compared to Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda.
What did Andrew Garfield give to this particular character of Plow Man?
The same thing, really.
A sort of every man quality, a mixture of strength and vulnerability,
an emotional kind of quality to him.
And also, you know, because it's a story of a rebellion
and, you know, there's a tremendous amount of action in it,
has to be able to do all that. It was fantastic. A really good partner in it. Then there's the
king, played by Woody Norman. He's a boy of 14. He's troubled. He's untested. He is a reluctant
leader. Maybe not fit to even be one, you know. He's a child that has been raised to believe
that he has been chosen by God. And he's surrounded by a man who are ruling in his name.
Okay, side note about this king. He felt very much.
much to me, like a mix of Michael Jackson and Joffrey from Game of Thrones.
There was just, of course, there's just a fragility to him.
Like, how did you conceive him?
Well, the real Richard II was the boy king.
He was clearly mentally ill, mental health issues of a profound way.
I mean, really profoundly, he was very cruel.
But at his core, the problem was that he was brought up to believe that he was the Messiah.
and he was controlled by these cynical wealthy oligarchs around him
and as he became sort of 14,
which meant that he was on the cusp of boyhood and manhood,
he really in the course of these events became the dominant figure
because it fell to him to deal with this rebellion.
And, you know, the story of the film really is the extent to which
he meets that challenge and the way in which he makes.
meets it because in the end, you know, the true story of Richard is that he became the great
tyrant that we know from history.
Did you write some of the songs in this?
I wrote the lyrics in the songs.
The lyrics?
Yeah, Volker, Volker wrote.
Was this the first time that you wrote lyrics for a song?
Well, I've done a few, but the first time in a film, yeah, it was fun.
I mean, Volker, Bertlmann wrote at a fantastic score and we just, I wanted, of course,
it's a part of the story is the story of the mark.
of the rebel march on London.
And of course, people would have sang songs, for sure,
and they would have been probably religious songs,
mixture of hymns,
but also sort of simple folk songs and also protest songs.
You know, I mean, if you think of the great movements,
you know, I made a film many years ago about Bloody Sunday
in Northern Ireland.
You know, people sang songs on the way down in that march.
That's what you do it.
They're protest songs, and it would have been no different in medieval England.
So we wanted to have that feeling running through it
because it's part of the hopes and dreams that lead people to march for change.
Music is so such a foundational part of that.
But not knowing that you wrote music or you wrote lyrics,
are you a songwriter?
I have a group of friends, and we have a little band,
and we tutel around a bit.
Yeah.
We released a single last year, which was good fun.
Seriously?
Yeah, yeah.
What kind of music?
Well, kind of rootsy, you know, dad music, you know, what can I say?
Dad music.
Wait, what's the name of the single?
I'm not 20, you know, I'm a bit older than that, so, you know, it's got to be mellow music, you know.
Yeah.
Oh, we're going to have to find this single, yeah.
Oh, my Lord.
But, you know, I mean, your films are famous for not really.
really leading people on how to feel, like the score does not work in that way.
And so I was really fascinated when I saw that you had wrote the lyrics here
because I feel like you're very intentional in the way you use sound and the way you use score.
You never lead us.
You know how music can elicit a feeling.
It's very, very important.
You want people to be drawn into a story and then you've got to have the experience of the movie.
and then they take from it, what they take from it.
You know, you never want to tell people what to think or feel.
You know, part of the magic of movies, I think,
is that relationship that you have between the film that you make
and what the audience bring and take from it.
You know, Paul, rewatching United 93,
I mean, it really took me back to that day.
And I was trying to find the right ways to articulate this to you.
It made me feel innocent again.
It took me to the place I felt when it happened
and when we didn't really know what this all meant.
And I happened to be watching it with my 19-year-old daughter.
And I looked over at her at a certain point,
and she was just sobbing.
And I sobbed too.
And it was the first time and a long time that I've cried about September 11th.
Well, it remains a great, you know, a pivotal event, a great wound.
I mean, it was an intense film to make.
It was a great privilege to make it, I think, for all of us who took part
and the relationships that we made with those families who lost family members on board.
It was the most extraordinary thing.
In fact, there are a bad.
to have a screening at the Gettysburg Film Festival.
And unfortunately, I can't be there because I'm here in Los Angeles,
but I sent a message, and there's going to be a lot of family members there,
and there's some actors who took part.
And one of the things I've actually found it incredibly moving,
sort of being taken back to the experience of making it
and those relationships with those extraordinary people,
and to think for a moment about what was accomplished on board that aeroplane.
And I did say in my remarks that it was very fitting, I think,
that that screening is at the Gettysburg Film Festival
and that we think of that astonishing address that your president gave.
And what he said was,
it has fallen to us.
He was talking, of course, about the legacy of the Civil War,
to fashion to see if we can meet the test, the challenge.
Meet the moment.
Meet the moment.
And what I said and believed is that those people on board that airplane,
as that plane closed as it was on the Capitol building,
with no military aircraft in sight to stop it,
it fell to that group of people to meet the moment.
And they did.
And I think that's inspiring.
And when we think of the problems and divisions,
I'm thinking about my country,
but I'm sure it's true in your country too of today,
25 years later.
and the difficulties we have and the divisions that's out there
and the inability for us to come together
as well as we all might as societies,
I did think at that moment of those people
and that coming together, in that moment of extremists
on that aeroplane facing that situation,
unimaginable, they did come together
and I think that's inspiring for your country,
but for all of us, I think.
I actually want to play a clip from the film.
In this scene, passengers on the plane
are coming to understand
that the plane has been hijacked
by Al-Qaeda terrorists
and that it is probably not going to land.
This is the moment when they realize this.
Let's listen.
We're okay.
Oh, we're okay.
Oh, yeah?
Hey.
This is a suicide mission.
We have to do something.
They are not going to land this plane.
They are not going to take us back to the airport.
We're going to die. They're flying this into a building.
You should not.
There's a lot of us, but we got to do something.
You see how low we are?
Is there a weapon? Is there something we can use?
Go back. You go back.
Stewardess, listen to me. Are you listening?
I'm listening.
Go back, and you get everything.
Get every weapon you can.
Get whatever we can use.
That was from the film United 93, directed by my guest today, Paul Greengrass. You went to the families of those on board, and you conducted more than 100 interviews before you wrote a word.
Yeah.
What did they give you that the official record and their detailed statements could not? Because you had those as well. You could have written an entire film based on those.
I think they gave us two things.
One, their encouragement and support
without which we would never have made the film.
And that support and trust that they gave us
that they didn't need to have done
was what really gave wings to that film,
gave it the ability to be what it was.
And then the second thing they gave us was who the people were on the plane,
you know, and enabled the group of actors to embody those people.
And, you know, it remains, you know, the greatest privilege of my work in life to make that film.
And I'm forever in their debt.
And I think we all are.
They're an extraordinary group of men and women of very different opinions about their society and the world,
but brought together by that common shared moment of tragedy,
but also of astonishing courage and achievement.
Our guest today is film director Paul Greengrass. We'll be right back after a short break. I'm Tanya Mosley, and this is fresh air. This is fresh air. I'm Tanya Mosley. And my guest today is award-winning film director Paul Greengrass. His new film, The Uprising, stars Andrew Garfield as a farmer who loses his family to the plague and rises to lead the peasant's revolt of 1381, the rebellion that helped inspire the legend of Robin Hood.
Greengrass is known for putting audiences inside real events as they happen.
The streets of Derry on Bloody Sunday, the hijacked plane on September 11th and United 93,
and the cargo ship seized by pirates and Captain Phillips.
Before he made these films, Greengrass spent a decade documenting conflicts around the world.
Another pivotal moment.
It's a very recent film that you directed.
In 2025, your film The Lost Bus.
took us back to 2018 to the campfire in Paradise, California, in which 85 people died,
more than 18,000 buildings burned, and the town of Paradise was basically all but erased.
It remains one of the deadliest wildfires in California history.
And I covered that fire.
I was there a few days after it happened, and I spent several weeks there.
And re-watching your film, I realized how much.
I had let myself forget.
And these are such big events that change who we are.
And yet it's so interesting the human condition, how we, a few years past it, we can completely
almost erase it from our minds in a way, maybe as a coping mechanism to get through it.
And your films bring us back to that place, but not in a place where there's an indictment.
There's almost like a tap on the shoulder in a way.
Yes, I suppose.
I think it's really important
that the films that you make
reward your audience for the privilege
of giving you two hours of their time,
you know, so I don't want to ever make a film
for people that is, you know, boring
or worthy
or giving them a lecture or anything like that.
You want them to have an intense experience
in the cinema
are a cinematic experience.
That's what the movies are about.
You can get to a place of hope.
I don't think I've ever made a film
that doesn't have hope at the heart of it.
In fact, I'm sure of it.
I want to talk a little bit about you
and growing up.
You grew up in public housing and his graves.
How would you describe it?
I was trying to figure out what was it.
No, I grew up.
I mean, my father was at sea.
He was what we would call it Merchant Mariner.
Essentially, he was in the,
the Navy as a young young man in the Second World War
and then he went to the civilian marine fleet.
My mother was a teacher.
So I would say I grew up in a seafaring family,
that's what I would say,
which is a particular sort of an upbringing
because it involves solitary men
who are very rarely there because they're at sea
and strong women who have to cope on their own, which would be my mother.
And that's, of course, the story of a seafaring family for thousands of years.
That's the paradigm, really, of a seafaring family, I think.
Your dad, how often was he gone and what was it like when he came back?
Well, he was away for very long periods of time, six months, you know,
could be three months, could be nine months.
One time it was 18 months.
and then later on he stopped the long trips and started to join.
And when he became pilot, that would be a day or two or three.
And back, you know, because he was really guiding the ships in rather than taking the long trips around the world.
And how old were you when that shift happened?
I guess I'd have been about 11, I think, something like 10 or 11.
So, you know, quite an important time.
And that was quite interesting when he came home, as it were, because,
my mother and father
had to learn
then how to live together.
That was quite entertaining for us children.
Right, because your mom had the household
on lock.
She was doing her thing, yeah, running the household.
Yeah, yeah, that was, and
so that was pretty tempestuous, I can't lie.
Oh, in what way? What do you mean?
Well, solitary man,
dominant woman, that's how it is.
you know, and they had to, they clashed.
But, you know, they got through and they lived a long life.
I lost my dad last year, finally.
He was very, very, oh no, he was very, very old.
He was 98, 99.
But they were together till the end.
Very devoted, actually.
But it was a marriage of opposites, I would say.
Can I repeat something back to you that I've heard you say in an interview?
You said, directors are made.
by childhood loneliness and domestic conflict, and you had both.
What is the connection to having that type of life and being a director?
I would say that it is a strange thing to end up making films,
and I think it is to do with childhood loneliness.
I do. I think childhood loneliness and experiences of cinema too.
You know, I remember as a young boy, my grandmother taking me to the movies
and those being very, very profound experiences,
you know, seeing Snow White as a young, young, young child.
I can still remember that.
So I think my sense is that if your home is perhaps more conflicted,
perhaps than it should be in an ideal world,
then the movie theatre becomes a place where you can escape
and have these very very important.
very intense, solitary experiences in front of a screen.
And so I think later, if you get to start to pursue the life of a filmmaker,
you're sort of drawing on those experiences.
Those are the profound sort of emotional wellsprings
that drive you to make films.
And one of the things you're trying to achieve, I think,
is to try and create cinematically the intensity of the experiences
that you have in front of a screen in a movie theater
when you're very, very young.
That would be my feeling.
Your grandma took you to see Snow White.
But do you remember the movies that just took hold of you as a young man?
Oh, I remember Snow White, yeah.
I can remember.
I must have been four or five,
but I can remember it absolutely vividly being terrified,
Absolutely terrified.
Of the movie itself.
Of course.
Being in love with Snow White, of course.
And, you know, I can remember, you know, we used to have Saturday matinees.
You know, there'd be comedies, you know.
I can remember the sound of music.
Still, to this day, one of my favorite films.
You know, the experiences that you have in a movie theatre
are the most precious things that you draw on.
really, because somewhere if you can locate the truthfulness of the emotional reactions that
you have, that's what you're trying to give your audience, if you can, fashion something
that can give your audience something of those same feelings, you know?
Let's take a short break. If you're just joining us, my guest today is film director Paul
Greengrass, the Academy Award nominated director of United 93 and Captain Phillips.
His new film The Uprising, starring Andrew Garfield, tells the story of the Peasants Revolt of 1381.
We'll be right back.
This is Fresh Air.
This is Fresh Air, and today I am talking with award-winning film director, Paul Greengrass, about his new film, The Uprising.
When did you know this was your direction, that you were going to be...
You were going to tell stories, like, because I know that you had a career working, traveling.
I mean, I think that when I was a teenager, I found life quite difficult, I think.
You were thrown out of two schools.
I was, yeah.
What did you do?
I mean, not bad things.
I just was not attentive and wasn't really very interested and, you know, trunted a bit and just generally was not the right sort of.
I found living inside institutions quite hard, you know.
I was quite rebellious, I suppose.
But when I got a bit older, I was very lucky.
I had an art teacher who was a very wonderful man
who really showed me that using my eyes and painting and printmaking
and that it was a safe space and it was a place where I could express to us.
And that's where I made my first film.
I was very young.
I would have been at 16 or 17.
Oh, what was that film about?
It was really a horror film.
It was only about 30 seconds long,
I've shot it with a friend of mine.
And I just found myself transported,
but I wouldn't say I decided there,
and then I'm going to make movies,
because who thinks like that at 16 or 17?
And then I went to college and came out
and started working in television
and originally made documentaries.
And that really, I suppose, is the making on me
because I kind of traveled a lot
and saw a lot of the world
and began to understand what the world was about a bit more.
But I always had a hunger to make movies.
It would have been a secret desire, I think,
because it would have been a bit preposterous
to have said it publicly, obviously.
And as a documentary filmmaker?
It was a hard transition to make,
but I did get there in the end.
I want to go back, though, to your documentary filmmaking
because I'm really curious about those experiences
and how they have.
helped shape what you put on screen today because you were in Beirut during the Civil War,
South Africa, under apartheid, Central America in the middle of its wars.
You were in your 20s at this time.
You're seeing things that...
Ridiculously young.
Yes, but you're seeing things...
Northern Ireland during the troubles, yeah.
During the troubles.
You are seeing things...
The Philippines and the revolution, yep.
When you think about the time period in your life in your young 20s, is there any one particular
moment that really stands out to you, that you really come back to thinking about from time to time
in the building of your craft?
Well, there's a welter of memories, I suppose.
I mean, you know, I've got some regrets about that period because I was away and I had young
children and I didn't really see them because that was what you did in those days and you,
he's a young man, you're reckless and the job demands that you go off and do those things.
So there's that side of things.
But in terms of understanding how the world works, you know, the program that I worked on was a program called World in Action.
That was what it was called, the title of which belonged to John Grierson, who's the founder of the documentary film, really.
He's the sort of the grandfather of it, if you want to call it that.
He had this phrase and it was bought and became a very, very successful television show in the UK and around the world.
the world actually. And I think that's what I made. I was trained to make those films about the
world in action and I like to feel that many years later I'm still making films about the
world in action. That sort of sounds trite and I suppose it is perhaps but that is as it seems to
me true and when I think of those experiences, you know, I mean things come to mind.
And I can remember being in Beirut.
The first time that I experienced sort of being in, you know, a war zone, as it were.
The first morning we got there, we landed at Juni Port.
We had to walk into Beirut at night, which was pretty dangerous, I have to say.
And then we got there and we were, I was with a very famous English documentary camera
called George Jesse Turner, a sound man called Phil Taylor.
and we were standing, or actually inside a building,
when an air raid started.
And he was, George was changing film.
In those days, you were shooting on film, wasn't digital.
And you changed your film magazines in what they called a day bag,
so you could put your hands in and, you know,
so a young boy yet to be trained so you could do it without exposing the film
and change a magazine.
He was changing a magazine when the raid started.
And I'd never been, and I literally,
jumped down the stairwell literally
and emerged when it was over
about ten minutes later looking
quite worse for wear
I had actually peed my trousers
to be absolutely honest at what had happened
and when I emerged
he was George was still
George and Phil was still standing there with their hands
in the day bag changed and they looked to me
and they laughed so loudly
and they were like where did you go
I said, what are you talking about?
I jumped down the still and said, no, no, no, no.
Listen, if we run, that's when you need to really be worried.
Hey, they've done it.
They've done it many, many times.
Yeah, so that was the tip.
If George doesn't run, you don't have to worry about it.
So that was one lesson I had.
But then ultimately, you became the guy that the younger guys had to look to you.
If you run, then it's time to go.
I guess so.
I guess so, yeah.
But there were many, many experiences.
I remember, for instance, being in the first time I worked in Northern Ireland
when it was the middle of the hunger strikes
and I remember going into the Mays Prison.
That was an extraordinary day and we shot inside the cells there
and you saw these cells and there was a card outside each cell
you know, it would have the name and it would have the date of birth.
and I suddenly realized that I was looking at a whole generation of young men of exactly my age.
You know, I would have been, I suppose, 24 so 24, I think, remember when we went in there.
They were all young men who were serving these enormously long sentences for the most horrendous acts of violence.
But you couldn't go in and see this as a crime wave.
obviously something had happened in this society to create this enormous essentially civil war
where people felt that their only option was to go to war
and I'm not seeking to justify it but that was the reality and that taught me a very valuable lesson
why do young men take up arms they take up arms because the rage
gets so bad, it's better to do that than not to. So, you know, that's always taught me a lesson.
I often think of that. Your wife, Joanna, she produces your films. And she has said,
I'm hoping I'm getting this right, but she says of how you work, it's not good for your health,
but it's good for the film. And so when you were talking about you as a young man and, you know,
you're out there, I think it's, it is the choice that so many people who are driven by,
something they love to do, make.
What does she see?
Well, one of the joys is working together because our kids now are grown up.
So we can go wherever we want and we can make our movies.
And, you know, when we were younger, it was always a bigger challenge.
How do we make sense of it all and, you know, deal with that.
Now we don't have that problem.
So it's all joyful that way.
And it was an absolutely lovely experience.
And she's the wisest person.
And, you know, when you get, look, filmmaking is a, in some ways it's a little bit like sports, actually, professional sports.
You know, I do feel that as I get older.
You know, in the sense that when you cross that line, you know, when a football player goes out on the field, they're not kidding around.
They're going out there to win.
They're going to leave it all out there.
And filmmaking is the same.
That same sense that for all of you, in front of camera, particularly the actors, you know,
you're trying to create this collective endeavor where you leave it all out there.
Paul Greengrass, I feel so lucky that I had a chance to talk with you.
Oh, it's been great.
Thank you for this conversation.
Thank you for having me.
Director Paul Greengrass was my guest. His new film The Uprising will be in theaters on September 10th.
Coming up, film critic Justin Chang reviews the new drama Philippinaina, which follows a teenage girl who's just started working at an upscale resort in Manila. This is Fresh Air.
This is Fresh Air. The new drama, Philippineña, follows a teenage girl who's just started working at an upscale resort in Manila. It's the new.
the first feature from the Filipino writer-director Raphael Manuel,
and it won a special jury prize at the Sundance Film Festival earlier this year.
It's now playing in select theaters, and our film critic Justin Chang has this review.
The few weeks or so that stretch between late August and early September
are generally thought of as the doldrums of the movie release calendar.
The summer blockbusters have come and mostly gone,
and the fall Oscar contenders have yet to drop.
Yet there are always new films worth seeking out, usually flying just under the radar.
You might not have heard of the terrific new movie, Philippina, which premiered earlier this year at the Sundance Film Festival.
It's in theaters now, and it marks the arrival of a remarkable talent, a Filipino writer and director named Raphael Manuel.
In a way, Filipina is an ideal thing to watch in a nice, cool theater, at the end of a brutally hot sun.
summer. It's been a while since a movie so powerfully captured the sweltering heat of the season,
or established such a vivid sense of place from its opening moments. It begins on a tour bus,
making its way through the crowded streets of Manila, where a local guide tries to teach the
bored-looking passengers a few words in Tagalog.
Mabuhai. Mabuhai is how we greet one another here in the Philippines.
In English, we don't live.
Why don't you guys give it a try?
It's easy.
Mah buai.
Mah buai.
Mah buai.
Good.
Manila is in the midst of a drought.
Early on, Manuel shows us weary residents lining up for water rations,
and then cuts to a shot of sprinklers, irrigated.
an enormous golf course.
That's a bluntly effective bit of commentary.
We have arrived, along with that bus full of tourists, at an upscale resort,
a lush green oasis of luxury in one of the most densely populated cities in the world.
For the rest of its 100 or so minutes, Filipina will never leave the resort.
It's a realistic yet satirical portrait of life inside a hermetically sealed bubble.
Our guide is a 17-year-old girl named Isabel, played by the intensely watchful Jory Bell Agoto.
Isabel has just started working at the driving range as a tea girl, whose job is to tee up balls for golfers, one after another.
It's a tedious, ridiculous task, one of many that keep the resort in operation.
Some workers are forced to spend hours waiting in the ponds, fishing out errant golf balls.
It's mostly through Isabel's sharp eyes that the movie's class critique comes into focus.
We follow her as she wanders this carefully manufactured paradise,
which is dotted with non-native trees that have been trucked in from afar and meticulously planted.
Isabel has a rebellious streak, and she can't help breaking the rules and sampling the resort's amenities,
whether she's dipping a finger in a guest's strawberry cake, taking a shower in a spa,
or simply basking in a few minutes of air-conditioned bliss.
Manuel also introduces us to another key character,
a significantly more privileged young woman named Clara,
played by Carmen Castananos.
Clara, who lives in New York, is visiting the resort with her uncle,
who wants her to move back to the Philippines
and help him run his golf equipment business.
Her uncle insists it's her duty to support her country
and fight what he calls brain drain, the flight of young Filipinos seeking better opportunities abroad.
But Clara is reluctant, probably because, like Isabel, she can see that people are being exploited and marginalized in the name of development and progress.
Filipina has just a few spare dribbles of plot.
From time to time, we hear ominous whispers of a young girl who's gone missing on the golf course.
Isabel is given a seemingly simple task
To return a stray golf club to the president of the resort
That becomes a kind of quest
With a few disturbing and even devastating revelations along the way
But what distinguishes Manuel's filmmaking
Is how much of the story he conveys visually
Through texture and atmosphere framing and blocking
He shows us the resort from a seemingly infinite number of angles
shooting in long takes and seldom moving the camera.
But the filmmaking never feels static.
Every shot of Filipina positively churns with life.
Early on, Manuel unleashes a playfully choreographed sequence
worthy of the great French director Jacques Tattee,
in which the resort workers' perfectly synchronized movements,
setting a table, stacking chairs, and cleaning a pool,
are brilliantly set to music.
It's a rich dose of comic fantasy that serves to underscore the situation's grim reality.
Filipina is an impeccable piece of world building that genuinely challenges us to imagine a better world.
Justin Chang is a film critic at The New Yorker.
He reviewed the new film Philippinania.
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