Friday Night Comedy from BBC Radio 4 - NEWS QUIZ: Immigration, Bank Holidays and Emojis

Episode Date: May 22, 2020

Angela Barnes welcomes Darren Harriott, Daniel Finkelstein, Jess Fostekew and Helen Lewis...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is the BBC. This podcast is supported by advertising outside the UK. BBC Sounds. Music, radio, podcasts. Hello, I'm the award-winning Gary Bellamy, host of Radio 4's premium phone-in show, Down the Line. And, like all those retired doctors and other heroes, I've returned in this country's hour of need, broadcasting live
Starting point is 00:00:25 from my own home with a lockdown special. And you can find an exclusive extra episode by searching for Down the Line on BBC Sounds. Hello, I'm Angela Barnes and you're listening to the Friday Night Comedy podcast. There have been a few changes around here since last week as I continue to do my best to adapt to life in this new normal. For example, I've now adopted a five-level alert system to help my partner understand how hungry I am. I'm currently at level four, which is high risk of hunger, keep two metres away from me. And if I don't eat something soon, I may even tip over into level five, which is risk of becoming overwhelmed and triggers lockdown with several garlic breads. Actually, don't worry, I've just found an old Oreo down the side of the sofa,
Starting point is 00:01:09 which should just about take me back to level three, general peckishness. So while I crack on with this stale biscuity disc, here's this week's episode of the News Quiz. Enjoy. Welcome to the News Quiz with your host, Angela Barnes. Hello and welcome to another lockdown edition of The News Quiz. I tell you what, I'm so glad this is an audio medium because I don't think I could bear being judged week after week on my decor and bookcase. Especially because I'm really into Cold War history, espionage stories and the archers. So I'd definitely end up on a list. Before we get going, let's get started with this warning label read by Neil Sleet.
Starting point is 00:01:51 SnoozePod 3-in-1 Bedside Crib. Warning, keep away from babies and children. Thank you to Alexander Stockler for sending that in. Now let's meet the teams. In Team A, we have Daniel Finkelstein and Jessica Fosterkew. Hello. Bye. In Team B, it's Daniel Finkelstein and Jessica Foster-Kew. Hello. Hi. In Team B, it's Helen Lewis and Darren Harriot.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Hello. Hey. How are you all getting on? I'm all right. Good, thanks. It's nice, recording radio, not wearing trousers. I know I've been feeling the emotions this week. I cried because my friend made a crochet doll of me. That's where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:02:25 How's everyone else doing? I thought that was voodoo. I'd be so scared. Oh, do you know, I've had these stabbing pains in my kidneys. Jess, how are you getting on? I know you're locked down with a four-year-old. How's that? Up and down.
Starting point is 00:02:38 I think on the whole, I'm one of those really annoying people that's achieving loads. Mainly the growth of extraordinary amounts of body hair. Yeah. I've never really gone for it before. And it is freeing. The other week I was able to genuinely, effectively use my own shin as a towel. Danny, how are you getting on?
Starting point is 00:02:56 It's been pretty much okay so far, but I'm going a bit crazy now. I know I did an entire charity event and realised I had a half a half empty bottle of gin over my right hand shoulder um and i'm always a bit nervous that i'm going to be demonstrating uh books that people will disapprove of on twitter but apart from that i'm fine as long as you move mine camp out of the way i think you're all right my grandfather had an entire library of books about nazis i don't think he would uh it would have gone down very well if he'd filmed any of
Starting point is 00:03:23 it isn't that because he hunted Nazis? Yeah. Oh, yeah, you should probably get that bit out. Helen, nice to see you back with us again. Yeah, instead of my bookcases, I'm giving you a bit of an insight into my dirty laundry. Just thought that'd be nice for everybody to really check in on the fact that I haven't done as much washing as I could. The cross-stitch is coming well, which is an improvement.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Well, it's lovely to have you all with us. So thank you for joining us. Shall we crack on with the show? Let's do it. Absolutely, yeah. So question one, lovely to have you all with us. So thank you for joining us. Shall we crack on with the show? Let's do it. Absolutely, yeah. So question one, this is for you, Danny, have a listen to this. Danny, which motion is restricting free movement? Well, the government's immigration policy has reached the legislation stage. It's gone through the Commons.
Starting point is 00:04:13 They are going to introduce the points system. They are planning to increase the surcharge to migrants for using the NHS. But originally they were going to put that on the people who actually worked in the NHS and care system and the moment they said that I thought well I bet you that policy doesn't last they'll send a minister out to defend it and then 10 minutes later they'll decide they don't want it which is exactly what has now happened but the point system that will still go ahead wait the government have done the right thing well Well, let's not go mad. Oh, I feel uneasy.
Starting point is 00:04:48 How about this? They've abandoned doing the wrong thing. At the moment that Boris Johnson defended it by saying it was because of the money that it would bring to the NHS, I knew it was doomed because it wouldn't bring any money. After all, if you're just charging what is effectively a handful of people, a little bit more than £600 at a moment when Rishi Sunak is supporting the incomes of about 80% of the British workforce, it's not going to count for very much. So that's caused quite a fuss this week. And at the same time, the government wants everyone to come over and pick fruit. So essentially,
Starting point is 00:05:22 if you don't have a PhD in a STEM subject, you can't come and work in this country. But you can be on SAGE and advise the government on coronavirus, I think. You have to do that over Zoom, because it won't last. I'll tell you, for a split second then, when you said what motion is restricted movement, I immediately thought of dance moves i was like oh maybe the robot you don't really use the legs that much it's the most nonsensical thing i've ever heard to charge people to use an nhs that can't function without them in it like what they're going to do next try and charge dogs to be in pedigree chum adverts let's be be honest though guys, come on, what are we doing? We picking? We picking? Fruit picking. I'm all in. It's funny isn't it because people, I remember when Brexit
Starting point is 00:06:10 was happening and people were saying you'll never get British people to pick fruit and it turns out that British people do want to pick fruit and all we had to do was ensure that every other form of alternative employment was literally impossible. That's all we had to do to get British people to agree to pick fruit. Anyone who thinks that fruit picking is unskilled work has clearly not seen me pick fruit. Prince Charles actually said that fruit doesn't grow by magic. And even that was actually news to me.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I didn't realise that was the case. I'm not so worried about the fruit picking. I think it's a very romantic image, isn't it? It conjures up all the kind of World War II imagery. And, you know, if you're able-bodied... Think for victory. Yeah. But I kind of hope and I'm glad that people will go and do fruit picking.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I just am worried that it's a slippery slope and it's going to be very soon that it's a less catchy or jaunty campaign where it's rather than pick for Britain, it's going to be like, please come and be one of the hundreds of thousands of nurses, carers, refuse collectors, retail workers that we are now short of for Britain. Way less catchy. I have a question. Can you decide what you want to pick?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Do you get a choice? Can you pick what you want to pick? Is that what you're asking? Here's the thing, I don't want to do vegetables. I mean, the very idea of picking for Britain is that you're not eating them. I think we have to make that clear. I think that negates the whole point of doing it.
Starting point is 00:07:32 If you're going to eat half the harvest... I would like strawberries and grapes. You thought you were going round the farm like Pac-Man. Talk about pick your pick and picking it, Darren. During the war, my grandmother was in Siberian exile. She was put to the field, so you had to collect the weeds from the fields. But the thing is, she'd never seen a weed, so she didn't know the difference between the weed and the crop.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So what she actually did in the end was remove all of the crop and then let the weeds grow. And when the weeds grew, nobody in the Soviet system wanted to admit they'd let the weeds grow. So they simply bailed it up and sent it off to the market. And nobody said a thing because everyone realised if they were the one that pointed it out, they'd get arrested. What do we think of the immigration bill? I mean, it's passed its first stage in parliament, obviously, probably going to go through several amendments. And what do you think of the points-based system that Priti Patel's proposed? I've got an enormous B in my
Starting point is 00:08:24 bonnet about it. The points-based system that Priti Patel's proposed? I've got an enormous B in my bonnet about it. The points-based system is really popular. One of the things that was fascinating during the EU referendum was this idea that people loved the sound of an Australian points-based system, despite all the polling revealing that no one knew what an Australian points-based system was. What's an Australian point, people asked. But, yeah, it just sounded like Australia was a kind of scary country
Starting point is 00:08:43 full of scorpions and, therefore, they probably had quite a tough immigration system where they probably, you know, put a huntsman spider on you if you tried to illegally immigrate. But the problem with it is, is that the idea of unskilled labour, I've got such a massive bee in my bonnet about this. What it normally means is types of labour where it's really hard to measure who's skilled, right? There's no easy tick box way of doing it. You walk into a nursing home, you can instantly tell whether people in it are any good at being carers or not. It's just how do you capture that in a number? Well, I worked in social care for many years. And I tell you now, I'd like to see Priti Patel try and change a full incontinence pad in an Asda toilet, and then she'll see what a bloody unskilled worker. I'd definitely like to see that job swap.
Starting point is 00:09:22 That would be very amusing. But I'd also like to see some sort of game show where MPs are asked to do quite basic tasks. You know what I mean? Like, I'd really quite like to see the Cabinet fruit picking, actually. Just for a day, just to have a crack at it. This is the news that the proposed immigration bill has passed its first Commons vote. The current free movement system is expected to be replaced with one modelled on the Australian system,
Starting point is 00:09:42 so it will look the same but be tanned and better at cricket. Two points to Danny. Jess, have a listen to this. Jess, who's gone cool on the rules for schools? Lovely. This is the news that teachers and councils are putting pressure on the government about schools because primary schools are due to reopen for years one and six
Starting point is 00:10:17 from the start of June. And there are fears amongst teachers' unions, etc., and many teachers, that it's not going to be safe enough to go back. Apparently only 5% of teachers think that it's safe to go back to work. I've got a four-year-old, and I can safely say that getting a kid at that age to social distance is like trying to get a sausage to tell you the time. Year one, they're feral.
Starting point is 00:10:40 There's times where getting him into his pyjamas, I feel like I'm re-enacting the Tiger King. The younger the child is, essentially, if you don't have any health complications, you're the least likely to have a terrible time if you're to get COVID. But it's a virus that's transmitted by proximity. And kids that age are obsessed with proximity. If they're not being violent, they're being cuddly. That's literally sort of all they do.
Starting point is 00:11:03 It's so hard to bring in social distancing in that context i've got a dear friend who runs a nursery down in dorset and we've all been taking the mickey out of her saying yeah good luck throwing a nappy from two meters away and hoping it lands on a bum like i don't know how it's meant to work but the other thing and i mean this seriously i don't think that the ministers have taken into account it's not just the non-compliance of children that age but also the arrogance I think there are children that age who know who know and understand what coronavirus is but they're not prepared to do anything about it my son and I were on a walk during lockdown
Starting point is 00:11:38 on our daily walk he kept touching everything that we passed every filthy bollard and gate and car and I was like please can you stop and he understands about the virus i was like please stop touching everything and he went these ones are fine they haven't got corona on and i was like well you don't know that do you what if he does this worst thing gets worse i was like you don't know that and he went i do know that i can see it and having now been in lockdown with him for what well over two months if there is a lab that's willing to take him especially for cash i am interested in a sale i think the whole situation is it's so bonkers at some point kids are going to have to go back to school and it's unlikely that there's going to be an entirely risk-free time for that to happen yeah well there's also there's an argument isn't there that
Starting point is 00:12:19 it's quite a sort of middle class point of view to say well of course the children can't go back to school but then if you're living in a high-rise block without a garden with you know three kids or whatever you know those kids might be better off going to school where they can at least have two meals a day that are catered for them or and you know those sorts of things they said they might do non-uniform which is amazing if it was me i would just dress my kid up in like a hazmat suit every day. It's like, oh, Darren's daughter's dressed like a beekeeper. I love the idea that now hazmat manufacturers can have a back-to-school sale. Danny, are your kids school age? No, actually, the older two aren't.
Starting point is 00:12:58 The youngest one aren't. So I've got a 17-year-old who didn't have to do his A-levels because it was cancelled, and my older ones at university um so no they're not um the oldest who are not not at school as the younger one is but uh i guess um you know i heard that five percent of teachers do want to go back and you know the idea if you ask somebody it might not be safe and if you don't do it we'll pay you 80 percent of your salary i certainly hope those 5% aren't teaching economics. I mean, I wouldn't want to go back either.
Starting point is 00:13:29 In the end, we're going to have to go back and we'll never be sure. Because the problem with coronavirus, we can't be certain, but it probably isn't actually that dangerous, any more dangerous than school normally is, which is quite dangerous. I like this idea of achieving social distancing. I used to achieve that at school myself, simply by talking to people about politics. This is the news that despite measures being put in place, some councils are refusing to open their schools on the 1st of June.
Starting point is 00:13:58 The measures being adopted mean that children will no longer be able to take their artwork home with them. However, you can get the same effect by simply not using a bin and sticking all of your rubbish to the fridge instead two points to jess everyone have a listen to this who is banking on a great British summer? Everyone. No one. We all are. Come on, let's be honest. We're all having a good time in our kitchens at the moment,
Starting point is 00:14:33 but, you know, we want to go out on the beaches, don't we, guys? Speak for yourself, Darren Harriot. I live in Brighton. I ain't going anywhere near that beach. So this is a story that the Culture Secretary, Oliver Dowden, I live in Brighton. I ain't going anywhere near that beach. So this is a story that the Culture Secretary, Oliver Dowden, has announced that he's hoping that the UK tourist industry will be open for business from July, that we'll be able to have UK holidays. I know Oliver quite well. I don't think he's ever been to a beach.
Starting point is 00:14:59 That would be my assertion, confident assertion. He's quite pasty, isn't he? He's one of my very favourite people, but I don't think he's a beachgoer. To be fair, I'm not a beachgoer either. I used to get taken when I was a kid. And there's like the one place where you get sandwiches in with real sand. There's nowhere to read. And obviously, there's nowhere to go for a swim either, except that sort of ridiculously big wave pool. And the idea of having an extra bank holiday in October in order to encourage tourism to Britain, I think someone's having a joke. I think it sounds fun. And I also like
Starting point is 00:15:29 how they're calling it the Great British Holiday to try and romanticise it. Because if you put Great British in front of something, then it makes it sound as fun as a baking competition. So next, I reckon they're going to be calling it the Great British PPE Shortiers. As somebody who spends quite a lot of time staying in guest houses and hotels across the UK because of my job, I do think that if you want to up the tourist industry in the UK, you're gonna have to sort of up our game a little bit. I've stayed in English guest houses where even the Wi-Fi code looks like it's from the 70s. Angela, Angela, I understand what you're saying, but what about, what about drive to the beach, sleep in your car, boom.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And that's a holiday, is it? Boom. Listen, I've been in my flat alone for the past two months, sleeping in the car right now. Nice. It makes my heart break a little bit when you watch all these people having pretend holidays within their own home. I think the only thing they're getting a break from is their own mental health. Everybody's doing pretend camping, aren't they, without ever leaving their home. It's got to be better than actual camping. I mean, I was brought up in a camping family. I don't know, maybe it's just me.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I don't think it's a holiday if you're in something more rubbish than your house. Well, my favourite headline in all of this was just, woman who drove to beach is shocked that others have done the same. Yeah. I think she was just annoyed because she thought that she'd figured it out
Starting point is 00:16:44 and nobody else had fought to just drive to the nearest beach. No, it's thought that she'd like figured it out and nobody else had fought to just drive to the nearest beach no it's just that saying isn't it like you're not in traffic you are traffic and I think that is the thing that everyone needs to remember during the coronavirus times if you're doing it you can't criticize everyone else for doing it too this is the news that the culture secretary Oliver Dowden thinks that holidays in the UK could be possible from July he also said that the only bigger champion of British tourism than him was the prime minister, whose last known holiday was to Mustique, which I believe is in Lincolnshire. Two points to Helen.
Starting point is 00:17:16 That brings us to the end of round one. And the scores are Jess and Danny have four points. Helen and Darren have two. Before we start round two, we've been sent this by a pupil in Dorchester from her homework instruction sheet. It says, read the attached research on child slavery and maybe do some yourself. Thank you for sending that in. Helen, whose track and trace plans are making people unhappy? See what I did there. This is pun getting, isn't it? This must be the government's plan for a COVID-19 tracking app, which has always been slightly contentious because both Apple and Google have got kind of
Starting point is 00:17:51 off the shelf ones, which are decentralised. So the information pretty much stays on your phone. And we've decided to do something a little bit different through the very snazzy sounding NHSX, because if you put an X after anything, it automatically sounds cool and like, yeah, HHS X, because if you put an X after anything, it automatically sounds cool and like, yeah, web 2.0 X. Yeah, I don't, I wouldn't make any claims like that about this app, to be honest, given that only just under half the people in the Isle of Wight have downloaded it so far. Maybe they're having a great time with it. Who knows? It's run into some trouble. I mean, as someone who very briefly got involved in a few minor website redesigns, the idea of building a whole app to track millions of people in like four weeks
Starting point is 00:18:28 just makes me want to come out in a cold sweat. So it's one of the greatest technological challenges that any government's faced for an incredibly long time and made more complicated by deciding to try and go it entirely alone. And I slightly suspect we might end up falling back on Apple and Google on the basis that they've got a teeny little bit more tech know-how than the British government. Just to tap the NHS. I mean, Google and Apple have said, haven't they, that they don't approve of the government having access to the phone data.
Starting point is 00:18:54 That's the reason that they've not been involved with the rollout so far. But then I just think, really, Google? I mean, you know before I do when I need a new hairdryer. Like, you're not that precious over data usually, are you? My view is that this app isn't actually supposed to work. The way that it will operate is that it tests whether or not you can use a mobile phone. And if you can't use a mobile phone, you're not allowed to go out. That's the idea.
Starting point is 00:19:20 And that will be a proxy for the government having a different social distancing policy. Boomer vision, basically. That's what they're kind of calling it. The best news that I've had all week, have you heard about the llamas? Well, I've heard that llamas aren't somehow involved, aren't they, in a vaccine hope? So if you'd said to me, what is the way that we'll solve the coronavirus crisis? And someone had said it's a llama in a secret undisclosed location in Belgium, I would have gone, yeah, OK, that sounds about par for the course of this year. There's a llama called, I think, Walker.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And basically it turns out that they make very, very small antibodies, whereas humans only make very large antibodies. So you might be able to synthesise a much better vaccine from llamas. So we don't need contact tracers, we need llamas. Llamas. There might be a statue to a llama. Wouldn't that be lovely? I think Parliament statue to a llama wouldn't that be lovely i think parliament square needs a llama that would be the final finishing touch but my misunderstanding is but where does the llama put the mobile phone there are much underserved animal they're really
Starting point is 00:20:17 a lot more tech savvy than you think it was it was a bit confusing that article because they said llamas have antibodies which could help fight against the coronavirus. Also, they make you feel good next to them. And I was like, what? Oh, come on. You show me a person who doesn't smile when they see a llama. Oh, you've got me. You've got me.
Starting point is 00:20:36 The thing about this whole track and trace, I think, so you get like a message and the message lets you know whether you've been in contact with someone. My thing is, how long until people start using it as a dating app? Let's be honest. It's going to start happening. You'll get messages going, you weren't in contact with coronavirus, but you made a connection with me. How about a date? It will start with it. Give it days and it will start. Genuinely, one of the worries about it is that if you use the NHS one one which only gives you unique code from your phone once a day it will become very obvious who's having an affair which is genuinely something that the scientists researching it were like this will affect take up of this app just to let you know there are a lot of people out there who are going to be very not keen on this i fundamentally
Starting point is 00:21:17 disagree agree sorry i fundamentally agree the opposite i do because i think as much as like some people might not want to get the app because of where you stand philosophically and politically on liberty, but equally, there's also shame. You know, I don't want the government knowing how often I walk down to Nando's just to check it's definitely still closed and I'm still missing out. I don't want anyone to know that. How often is that? Daily. It changes your Facebook status to infectious so that people can tell what they're getting into. Oh, well, maybe it's not going to work that well as a dating app.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Have you seen the story about the contact tracers, the 21,000 people? And in my head, I think of them as being a bit like Oompa Loompas. They've had to do all their training online. I don't know if you've seen this. They've had to do all their training online. I don't know if you've seen this. And one of the trainees apparently asked how they best approach somebody who has a relative who's died of coronavirus. And they were told to look up on YouTube, like showing somebody a cat playing a piano is the best way to work if the majority of people get it. And that's not going to happen either, because have any of you tried explaining to your mum how to turn a Bluetooth on? She thinks you're asking her to give a pirate a private dance. I just wonder if there'd be more uptake on the app if we sort of gamify it a bit. You know, like if you trace 10 contacts and you get a little gold coin and that can count towards your immigration point this is the news that the much anticipated contact tracing app due
Starting point is 00:22:50 this month has been delayed until june so for the time being at least we'll have to continue to enjoy mobile phone induced panic attacks the traditional way like dropping it in the toilet and realizing you forgot to stockpile rice or realizing you agree with something piers morgan has tweeted. Two points to Helen. Darren, have a listen to this. But I've got no money that a horse has has, because my rich old uncle died and answered all my prayers. I love that song. Darren, who's still loaded in lockdown?
Starting point is 00:23:23 This is the Sunday Times have released their rich list. Yes, indeed. Guys, we've all been waiting for this. This is the perfect time to release this list, isn't it? During a global pandemic, when a sizable chunk of the world is out of work, you've just got all these people bragging about how much money they've got. I'll be honest with you, though. I won't lie. I do i do enjoy the rich list like i just think it never fails to show me who to hate however though i do think these lists at times do feel pointless because we all know who the richest person in the world is we know this well okay depending on who you speak to if you ask my nan the richest person in the world is someone who has accepted god in
Starting point is 00:24:03 their lives but if you ask me i would say it's Jeff Bezos, isn't it? It's Jeff. We know this. Jeff Bezos is the richest person in the world. He's so rich, he divorced his wife last year and she got 40 billion in the divorce and is now the fourth richest woman in the world. For the first time in years, I actually didn't hate the number one on the UK's richest person list because it was inventor Sir James Dyson. Indeed it was
Starting point is 00:24:32 Yeah, wealthiest man of the UK in the same way that the Helix Bridge is in the UK in that they are both in Singapore. It's funny I thought that thing with James Dyson sucked It's pun-tastic this week. There's got to be room in here somewhere to say he's leaving them in the dust of course I work on the times and um people think you work
Starting point is 00:24:54 on the Sunday time so every time their rich list comes out people start lobbying you and it's very funny because some people are lobbying because they really really want to be on the rich list and some people are lobbying you because they really really do not want to be on the rich list. And some people are lobbying you because they really, really do not want to be on the rich list because they don't want to start everyone approaching them or getting the newspaper. And so we get all sorts. It's nice to have like an inventor. Well, he gave an interview, didn't he, where he said that he managed to blow 500 million on an electric car. And I thought, come on, mate, we've all fallen asleep in the back of an Uber. Did you see anyone else that was on the rich list? My favourite one, and the one I think is most deserved, is Anthony Joshua.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Anthony Joshua doubled his earnings last year, and he is on the young rich list. And I think to myself, if there's a person who deserves all the money in the world, it's somebody who, for a living, gets punched. Would you rather be punched or be married to Jeff Bezos? Oh! Be punched. Categorically. This is the Sunday Times Rich List, which was published this week.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Inventor James Dyson came top of the list in the UK's richest people. He's already a knight of the realm, of course, so to complete the set of Britain's greatest accolades, he's just got to get rear of the year. Two points to Darren. Before we take a look at the final scores, I have some devastating news
Starting point is 00:26:10 for the panel. The Unicode Consortium have recently announced that there is going to be a delay to the rollout of the new set of emojis that we do in 2021. How are we feeling
Starting point is 00:26:22 about this, guys? Heartbroken. I think it's funny. Are we feeling sad face, sad face? We need it. I'll be honest, I do look at emojis a bit like the way I look at the Fast and the Furious films. I'm like, I think we've got enough.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Yeah. Nailed it. They said they're not going to be coming out with the new emojis for an extra year because they've got enough on their plates, specifically an aubergine, a taco, and a very cute pair of cherries i had a really lovely lockdown emoji uh thing happen to me where so my mum and i share recipes quite a lot obviously we're far far away from each other and um pictures of stuff we've made food and then quite often she was
Starting point is 00:27:00 replying with the puke emoji and i let it slide a few times and then I said to her, like, Mum, your sense of humour's really darkened during this pandemic. And it turns out she thought it meant green with envy. Oh! So cute! I've got a similar problem with my mum, which is that she thinks when she wants to blow me a kiss, she instead sends me the lipstick kiss emoji.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Oh, it's a bit sexy. And every time I'm like, ooh. You know that thing where David Cameron thought that lol meant lots of love and i rather than laugh out loud and i knew that because when my dad died he sent me a message saying i'm really sorry to hear about your dad lol david cameron there's also like emoji like etiquette. I learnt that if somebody asks you something or says goodbye and you put a thumbs up, it's like offensive. I've done it before and people have messaged me back and gone
Starting point is 00:27:51 is everything okay? Why are you giving me that? It's a thumbs up. It's a universal sign. It does depend what you've messaged, doesn't it? If you've just said to someone I love you and they reply with a thumbs up guys, that's where perhaps it's a touch heartless. That brings us to the end of our show
Starting point is 00:28:10 and our final scores are Danny and Jess have six points and Helen and Darren also have six points. It's a draw. Thank you to our brilliant panel and to you, the listeners, for joining us. We'll leave you with a warning in this listing for the Great British Menu final spotted by Eric Dano. Contains some sexual content, some violence and some upsetting
Starting point is 00:28:31 scenes. And with that, goodbye. Taking part in the news quiz with Daniel Finkelstein, Jessica Fosterkew, Darren Harriot and Helen Lewis. In the chair was Angela Barnes and the news was read by me, Neil Sleet. The chair script was written by Max Davis, Catherine Brinkworth and Laura Major with additional material from Simon Alcock and Michael Fabry. The producer was Susie Grant and it was a BBC Studios production. Hello, I'm Greg Jenner. Usually I host the You're Dead to Me podcast and work on horrible histories but while while we're all cooped up indoors, I'm presenting a new podcast for the whole family. It's called Homeschool History, and every episode is a fun 15-minute guide to a fascinating historical subject.
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