From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Bibbidi Bobbidi Boo: Disney Destroys Another Girlhood Experience

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

Disney is facing backlash from parents after allowing a male employee to wear a dress and make-up at Disneyland's Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique in Anaheim, California. Sean and Rachel weigh in on why Disney has adopted woke policies, and how investment companies like BlackRock push corporations toward progressive ideology.   Later, they share their thoughts on The View co-host Sunny Hostin's recent comments about white female voters and break down why the Left is obsessed with class structure and race relations.   Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're back. We're back. We're having coffee. We're with our peeps. And we have, I mean, chock full of culture topics. And by the way, I don't love that we have to do all these culture topics all the time, but the left, the progressives keep throwing more and more curveballs at us that we have to digest and figure out what we need to do as parents to protect our kids. Well, we're in a culture war, so we have to talk. We are in a culture war. We're in a cultural Marxist cultural revolution.

And it's important to talk about this. We're not doing this just to be negative. We really need to talk about this. We're not doing this just to be negative. We really need to talk about it. So we're going to talk first about Disney because they have totally taken the magic out of one of the most magical experiences, if you can fork out the money, at the Bippity Boppity Boots Salon.

We're going to explain to you what they did, what that experience is like because our kids went through it and we dished out a lot of money for them to do it. And now I'm sad because I don't think I can let Valentina have the same experiences as her sisters. And we're going to analyze the why. Why is Disney and other corporations engaging in what you would think is bad business practice that are alienated half of America? So we're going to give you the why as well. And it's a deep why. I mean, we're going to get to the absolute root of the problem. We're actually going to name names. So that's interesting. We've got Sunny Hostin, who says that women are responsible for white patriarchy in our country.

I know it sounds crazy, but again, another topic that seems crazy specifically what that means for Chip and Joanne. Now, we've gotten massive response on this podcast about that topic because people listen to our podcasts are people who generally like Chip and Joanne like I do, and yet found themselves very disappointed by the silence. It actually has something to do a little bit with what we were talking about with Disney. Well, that last podcast, I had to shame you a little bit into recognizing that they're partnering with a company that partners with Satanist. And you finally got there. That's true. everybody that Target was progressive well before Chip and Joanne joined their company, you know, to put their wares in their company and their products. And Target has always been on the

forefront, you know, back in 2012 and 14, they were the ones, the first ones to say, yeah, we're going to let men into the women's bathrooms and really delved into the whole trans controversy very, very early on, one of the big companies that did that. So Chip and Joanne kind of already knew that. And so you kind of said, look, Chip and Joanne, we both said Chip and Joanne should step up and say something, that silence is complicity or as the, what did the left say? Silence is violence. Silence is violence. This is important for kids that we have, you know, a company that's really putting out, you know, they're putting out bathing suits with tuck-its and they're, you know.

Women's bathing suits for men. For men with tuck, you know, with a place to tuck your junk. All the sort of really pushing hard on Pride Month, which has become, you know, almost like it's a new month in the liturgical calendar in so many ways. But they're not just pushing it in the grown-up section, which I think most people are like, okay, fine. They're doing it in the kids section, which I think is over the top. And most parents feel that way as well. By the way, their market cap. So there are stock trades. They're down about $15 billion in stock price after this controversy has come out, which is roughly 20%. It's a significant ding to those individuals who own Target stock. They've lost big time because of Target's position with kids and the

gay movement, the transgender movement, I should say. And so what's interesting is we talked about the money incentives, both for Target and also in the case of Chip and Joanne. You know, why are they saying staying silent? You say it's you said in your podcast, in our last podcast, that you thought it was the money on their bank account. You know, I thought about that and I just don't buy it. I don't think it's the money. I think Chip and Joanne have plenty of money, enough money to, you know, fund several generations of the Gaines's family moving forward. They kind of have blank you money. Yeah, they do have blank you money. And I don't really think they share the values of the trans Satanist per se. But I do think that social acceptance is a very powerful factor in this

story. And if you look at who Chip, you know, Chip and Joanne, because they are so likable and so successful, have been rubbing shoulders with a lot of famous people. You know, they're friends with the Bushes who are like mega celebrities in Texas in particular. They're friends with the Obamas. They've gotten to meet them. They had, you know, they remodeled J-Lo's house, I think in Malibu or something. They go to award shows now like these, you know, mainstream award shows are not at the Patriot Awards for Fox Nation. They're at the mainstream award shows. They go on on, you know, when Ellen had a show, they go on Ellen or they go on all these daytime talk shows, even maybe even nighttime talks.

They are accepted, even though they're from Texas in the small town. They're accepted, even though they're from Texas in the small town, they're accepted in these circles. And in these circles that they're accepted, they would be instantly thrown out if they made any move to distance themselves from this, I guess, marketing and ESG decision by Target. You're right. So if they spoke out about the Target and their partnership with Target and their displeasure with Target partnering with a Satanist and pushing transgender on children, you're right. They probably would be excluded. They would be excoriated online. And they're probably making a choice that says, listen, I like my friends. I like my fame. By the way, I watch a lot of Fox. I have never seen Chip and Joanne. Yeah, they have.

They've been on Fox and Friends. They have been on Fox and Friends. How long ago was that? I don't know, but they have been. Okay. Well, maybe. Okay. They have been.

I'll take your word for it. No, they have. They have. But I wonder when you look at, what's their hometown? But I bet that their customers are Fox viewers. What? Yeah, what's their hometown again? Waco, Texas.

So I bet in Waco, Texas, the people by which they live probably don't agree with Target and probably don't agree with Chip and Joanne. So who are you trying to please? Is it the people that live in your neighborhood, in your community? Or is it I'm bigger than my community now.

I want to be friends with the stars of America and be accepted in their community. And I think that's a really hard place to be. And you see they're choosing fame as opposed to their neighbors and their church and the values that they espouse but now have left because obviously those values must not have been that deep in their heart because they've chosen the fame as opposed to the value. Well, and listen, I think, again, being accepted in circles, not being a pariah among those people that you now get. I mean, listen, they're from a small town and suddenly, you know, J-Lo came to their town to visit them. I don't know if people know that J-Lo actually went to Waco and met with them. And you can imagine, I mean, that's-

Rachel went to Waco. Nobody cares about that. But listen, J-Lo, you know J-Lo. I mean, that's... Rachel went to Waco. Nobody cares about that. But listen, J-Lo, you know J-Lo. I mean, that's a big deal. So I think they're probably impressed by the people who like them. And they're now, their social status has exploded beyond Fixer Upper and HGTV and sort of the conservative people who buy their products. It's now they are in this other sphere. And I think it's so fascinating just from a sociological investigation or a

sociological standpoint to look at the power of social acceptance. And by the way, Sean, being accepted is also what the Chinese use to keep people in line, right? I mean, no one wants to be thrown out and a social pariah like I am in Hollywood. Well, I'm just going to, I will leave it at this with Chip and Joanne. Nice people, but. You can't have it both ways. You can't say, you know what, I want to partner with a company that doesn't share my value, or maybe that does share their value.

And I'm going to have all these really famous friends who are really liberal, but then come back home to a lot of their viewers and a lot of the people that probably buy their products and say, I'm one of you. You can't be everything to everybody. You got to pick a side. And I think their silence really tells us they've picked an aside. They've chosen a side. And it is the side of their very famous friends, the bank accounts. And it tells me that what we thought they were, they are not. They really are not. And if they were what they said they were, they would speak out and lend their voice to sanity, which is stop targeting kids at Target. And if you target kids sexually at Target, I want nothing to do with you. That is a really easy stance to take. They haven't taken it. And so I take that as they must agree with it. And so they don't share my value. We'll have more of this conversation after this. What do Ontario dairy farmers bring to the table? A million little things,

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systems of Europe and, you know, and of course of Russia at that time. But the deal is that that didn't work when they brought Marxism to America because capitalism and free enterprise and sort of it was working for people and that wasn't going to work. And so they made a decision, the Marxists that came over and those ideas when they came over to go, we're going to do this through race and through gender ideology and through feminism. And that is radical feminism. And that is how it's going. And so we are in the midst of a cultural revolution. We should not deny it. And as we talked about, you can't have two masters. You do have to pick sides in this. Let me say it a little differently. So what you need is for a revolution, you need disaffected people to rise up against perceived power. And when socialism first began under Marx, Marxism, you could go to the disaffected economically and get them to rise up for the revolution. That didn't work in America because, you know, that's a land of opportunity.

And the middle class, even some of the lower classes, they do pretty well in America. And so the class warfare didn't work. And so they had to rethink the model and go, well, how can we get disaffected to rise up as part of our socialist revolution, our Marxist revolution? And they were very smart. They thought, well, we can go on race and we can move that also into gender. And so, and that's what you're seeing now. It's not an economic uprising, but it's a racial and sexual uprising that's taking over the country. And again, its roots are completely in Marxism, which devastates societies, devastates economies, and takes

away people's freedom. And so that's why this fight is so important. This is not just about protecting our kids, but it is. It is. It is about actually making sure we preserve what's so great about this country. That's why this brings us to Disney. Can I just say one last thing? Because I thought you laid it out so much better than I did. Thank you for that. The fight started or this thing that you talked about started in academia. And now as they've gotten more and more people believing in this ideology, it's now moved to the boardrooms and to corporate America. So that's why you're seeing it spread throughout corporate America. And now we're getting to Disney. We're going to get into the spread in corporate America and why that's happening. But first, let's lay the story out about Disney. Again, you don't think there could be enough Disney stories out there. I know. But the stories keep coming because Disney is doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on their radical agenda, trying to use their platform with families and kids, which it has been a family and children network and platform. They're using that now to subvert, to pervert the minds of families and kids

based on their long history of having a great reputation with families, which they don't have anymore. So what's the story? What's happening with Disney, Rachel? You know, Disney was that place where you could, it sort it was a safe space it was a safe space where you could take your kids and it was magical and it was innocent and it brought all of us into that that childhood innocence that we all want to hold on to and we definitely want our kids to hold on to and we would take them to the parks but as the parks started to make more money they started to develop more experiences for you to have. And one of them was the Bippity Boppity Boo Salon. So if you remember the Fairy Godmother in Cinderella, for those who are watching who don't understand all the Disney stuff, Bippity Boppity Boo is what the Fairy Godmother said to, you know, Cinderella when she wanted to transform her rags into a beautiful dress.

So and get her ready for the ball. So the Bippity Boppity Boo Salon is a place where little girls go and they get this experience. So a mom recently went, I'm going to delve into what happens in the salon a little bit more, but I want to tell you why this story sort of hit the viral, it went viral because a mom, and by the way, she was not offended. She was just giving her opinion. She just did a little reel on TikTok of what her daughter's experience was. She was not critical of this, although I would have been. And I think many, many other moms would have. So when you get to the salon, you're greeted by a fairy godmother apprentice.

And you're going to now enter into this experience where you're totally enveloped. When this mom brought her daughter, she was greeted by a guy named Nick with a mustache, dressed in a dress with a fairy godmother princess dress and a handkerchief around his head, like he's sort of the servant apprentice. And he says, hi, I'm Nick. I'm one of the fairy godmother apprentices. And that's how you're greeted. So he has eyeshadow on.

Yeah, his makeup. This is kind of like blackface on women, really. I mean, this is mocking women. He's not even trying. He's got a mustache on. I thought Nick would become Nicole. He's not even Nicole. No, he's Nick.

He's Nick, and he's wearing makeup, and he's really destroying this experience for little girls who are expecting to be greeted by somebody who actually looks like a woman and is an apprentice for the fairy godmother. And so Peachy Keenan, who is, this is a pseudonym for her. She writes, she has a book coming out, by the way, this month. Her tweet kind of encapsulates what I felt as well.

She said, this salon, which I have used several times, is for little girls ages 4 to 10. It is a delight from start to finish, one of the cutest things to watch, a true Disney magic immersive experience, one of the very few left in the park, because a lot of the rest of the stuff in the park has been wokefied. A Man in Drag is not only bizarre and inappropriate, but it takes the guests out of the show. The illusion is broken. You sort of pierce through that curtain, right? She says, nothing matters but the agenda, and your four-year-old is a pawn.

They are happy to mind-flay. That was her take. I'm going to talk to you about what happens in the salon and then give you my take. So, first off, as a father, listen, it's wonderful. I've never been in. It's expensive, by the way. I've never been to Bippity Boppity Boo. You've taken the girls. It's a chick experience. That was going to be my point. This is not cheap. I mean, Disney is expensive already.

Yeah. And if you want your child to have a wonderful experience, and by the way, Disney knows this, it's really hard to say no to a little girl that wants to have this experience of being- I remember telling you, I'm thinking about taking the kids to the Bippity Boppity. You're like, how much? It's really wonderful. It's expensive.

They charge you an arm and a leg. And you then would think you get the full experience as opposed to Nick, who is a fairy godmother apprentice. I mean, give me a break. Greeting your child. And you're right. They get immersed in the story of Cinderella. That's right. And here, this is not the story of Cinderella. Something else. But let's talk about what this is like. So listen, so here's what happens. And this is why what truly was worth the money. Okay. So if

you're watching this, I'm putting up some pictures, but I'm going to describe what you're seeing. You see my little girls. They're kind of a little bit of a mess. So they, um, you walk in and before you get, when you walk in and the apprentice fairy mother greets you, you as a mom decide what price point of dress. So there's like really, really rich people that choose like the super deluxe package. I got the cheapest package, which was, you know, these cute little, you know, Cinderella dresses. You get to pick. Do you want to be Jasmine? Do you want to be Cinderella? Do you want to be, you know, whatever you can choose. I think one of mine was Jasmine, one was Tiana, and the other one was Rapunzel. So they all got, they pick that, then they take them into this huge,

beautiful, like, dressing room where the dresses that they have selected are laid out there for them to pick from. And then they get dressed with the help of the fairy godmother assistant. And then they're taken in. And everything is just decorated like Disney. You feel like you're in a little castle, right? And then they go into the salon and they do their hair. They do their nails. Here's a picture of them doing their hair. She's actually got, they give them this like little clear glass shield to

cover their face because of course they don't want to get hairspray in their eyes. It's so super cute. And they come out totally bedazzled. And the girls think it is the most amazing thing ever because everything looks like you would imagine in the cartoon, the salon, you know, where they put their products and everything is, it looks like a, you know, this beautiful cabinet in a castle. I mean, it's just amazing.

And then when they're all done and they're all gussied up, they take them to this third room where there's a glass, like the glass carriage that Cinderella was, you know, taken in. And there you see the picture and the little girls are in front of Cinderella's, you know, glass carriage and they get their picture taken. And by the way, they have like a beauty pageant sash across their dress as well. And they get a little packet with little girl poofy stuff to take with them. And they go out in the park for the rest of the day feeling like they are a princess. And look at them. They, I mean. So the girls love it. You love it. It was worth the money. It was so worth the money. They will never forget that.

I will never forget it. And so Disney has made the conscious decision to say, you know what? We're willing to ruin this experience to, as what's the tweet you read from the lady? From PG Keenan. Let children get immersed in a movie that they love from Disney. ruin that for a social agenda, a Marxist push of trying to let men be women and interject themselves into this very fairy-esque experience that we offer children. Right. Which means they don't really care about their business model.

Or their customer. They care about a social movement. Right. Yeah. They want to erase gender. This is part of that Marxist cultural movement. So here's my, can I share what, as soon as I saw it, I went immediately went to Twitter and tweeted. And I said, Disney is putting the desires of a mentally unstable adult, Nick, ahead of the joy, innocence and the magical experience of little girls.

This pretty much sums up the cultural revolution that we're living through. This is really not about gay rights. cultural revolution that we're living through. This is really not about gay rights. I know that people who are activists in the gay movement will watch or listen to this or similar opinions like this and say, oh, you hate gays. No, I do not hate gays. I love everybody. And I believe gays deserve rights in our society. And they have rights. And that's why I tweeted, this is not about gay rights. They have rights. This is part of a Marxist cultural revolution to destroy truth and beauty, tenets of Western civilization. Remember, Marx was not an economist. He was a theologian. And this is part of a new religion, a revolution that they're trying to totally overthrow our system, our Western society and our economic system as well. No, you're 100% right. And yeah, I'm disgusted by what they've done and how they've chosen to ruin these experiences for these little children. Can I tell you that there's two things that

concern me in addition to everything that we've laid out. One is that what I'm seeing reflected in Disney right now, Sean, are the values of very rich liberal people. And I think part of the problem is the price point at Disney is so expensive that they pretty much price the middle class and their values out of this market. So the park gets every year more and more expensive and less and less everyday Americans, working class Americans can have this experience with their kids. And so now they're catering to these very woke, rich people. And I think that is part like Donald Trump, but I'm really worried about Donald Trump hitting Ron DeSantis on this particular topic because I think Ron DeSantis is right over the target because Disney is not just a great experience for your kids.

There's something super Americana about Disney. And if the woke progressive left and their very un-American ideas and their very un-American ideas and their very un-American intentions can take Disney as they are doing right now, I think it's super symbolic. So I'm nuanced on this. I agree with you. I don't like Donald Trump hitting Ron DeSantis on this. But it's not because I want government to go after businesses that Republicans may disagree

with. I don't believe they should do that at all. Let them decide what market they want to play to. But what Ron DeSantis did was say, listen, hey, you're going to comment and lie about a bill that we are advancing that's going to protect little children in first, second, and third grade from not being sexualized in the school system,

and you're going to lie about what this bill does, which they're going to say the bill's called Don't Say Gay, which it has no reference to gay, has nothing to do with gay, it has everything to do with sex being taught to children at an incredibly young age. So that angered me about Disney. And what Ron DeSantis did was not necessarily attack Disney,

but he said, why is the state of Florida going to give you special treatment as a company that no other company gets? You get special treatment. And frankly, we're going to take it away. So he wasn't punishing. He was just equalizing Disney to the. I'm all about gay rights, but I'm not about the transgender movement targeting children. Leave kids alone. I've heard more people say that. Yeah, I have too. I have a lot of gay people say that too. gay community wants and thinks about versus what this transgender movement is thinking about and who they're trying to target. So there's a big distinction there from a lot of the gay friends I have. It's an excellent point. And there's actually a generational divide among many gays. So you and I are Gen X. And so if we look at the friends that we have that are gay, that are opposed to this movement, moving into children and targeting children, they tend to be Gen Xers and older.

And they basically say, listen, we were part of the civil rights movement that made sure that gays could be accepted and not discriminated upon, etc., etc. We just want to be normalized in the society. And that's what they fought for. And now you see that it keeps getting more and more, you know, it's like this slow boil. And they're saying we don't want part of that. But I do think it's a generational divide. I think young gay activists are have been indoctrinated to think that this is somehow part of gay rights. And older gays are a lot of them. Many of them that we know are saying we don't want part of that movement that's saying, you know, drag shows should be in schools and hosted in libraries and sort of the sexualization of children.

They're saying we don't want anything to do with that. So there is a generational divide there. I like that Ron does. I think what Ron DeSantis did through, you know, back to what you just said, I think what he did was shine a light on Disney and expose what we, you know, we've been going to the park, you know, over the course of many years, we have lots of kids and we all want them to have that experience around five or six years old when it's super, super magical. So we've kind of seen that transformation as, you know, each, you know, kid kind of gets to that age and we go to the park and we have seen those

changes and they're accelerating and this fight that ron de santis had with with um disney over that bill has really shined a light on all the other things that they're doing and i think this bippity boppity boo thing is really i mean i was still last month advocating that we should go back to Disney, even though I want to boycott Disney as a family, because we have such precious memories at Disney, Sean. I mean, I was going through my phone looking for these Bippity Boppity Boo pictures. And as I'm going through, I mean, I just, my heart was breaking because I had, it was so fun. And our kids had, we had so much fun with them. I mean, it just, my heart was breaking because I had, it was so fun and our kids had, we had so much fun with them. I mean, it's a lot of work when you go to Disney, but we flipping loved it as a family and it was that safe place. And I'm so damn mad at Disney for taking that away

from us, from changing it so it meets the needs of, you know, as I said, this mentally unstable Nick becomes more important than the experience for four-year-olds and for parents who are dishing out a lot of money to have that magical experience. Yeah, no, I... Just take sex and gender confusion out of the park. We don't need it. So I think this is just one story of many we'll continue to tell about Disney. This is not the end of the road for them. This is the beginning. They're going to continue to transform their park

and integrate men into traditional women. What's driving this, Sean? And I think that's really the story here, that this is not the end of the story. The story is just beginning. Yeah. It's the first chapters of what Disney is going to do to, I think, try to decimate and ruin their business. And so I think it's important to go, well, why is this happening? Why would Disney, a company that, I mean, Walt was an amazing man who built this amazing empire, who had a focus on making childhood magical.

and it became a magical experience truly for kids and for adults. And you had a great interview on Fox and Friends this weekend with Tim Kramer. He is from Mosaic Advertising and he lays out his philosophy as to why not just Disney, but other companies are going woke and making some really bad decisions. Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Joe, I think it's important for the American people to start asking where they're coming from. These brands are not doing this on their own. They are not deciding to do this.

This is a top-down mentality. It starts with a WEF directive. I know this sounds like conspiracy theory, but we can track it. We've now tracked it through the financing. It goes into the hedge funds. It goes into the financial system, the banking system. And if Target, Budweiser, these other brands don't go along, well, they don't get the financing

they need from these financial institutions like BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street. That's how simple it is. That's the lowest common denominator. And it doesn't stop until Americans speak up and make their voice heard. The other thing that has to be important here and to take a look at is when is the SEC going to come in and take a look at the fiduciary responsibility these corporations have, their shareholders, making these moves and losing billions of dollars at a time. Okay, so I think this is fascinating. So Tim is basically saying, listen, you have the investors that are pushing American companies to go woke. And let's unpack that for a second, because BlackRock, one of the most liberal institutional investors in the country, led by Larry Fink, they don't take their money and invest their money, BlackRock's money, into all the companies, whether it's Coca-Cola or Budweiser or Disney. They actually take your

money. So when you put your money in your 401k, maybe it's with a state plan, maybe it's with a union plan, or you're just an individual, oftentimes that money will go to BlackRock and BlackRock will invest that money for you. And they're the ones, BlackRock, that'll buy the Disneys, that'll buy the Amazons. What are the other companies? They're buying Fortune 500 companies. No, no, I mean the other... BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard. Vanguard.

And so when they take your money and invest in these companies, these companies then have shareholder proposals on what should the mission of the company be, and the shareholders vote. And BlackRock, with your money, will vote your shares. And in essence, tell Disney what to do, become woke, woke-ified. And it's your money that they're using to drive these companies leftward. And the shareholders, which BlackRock will have a big percent of these companies, you determine who's on the board, who the CEO is, how much the CEO makes. So there's real incentive in getting companies to transition, to transform themselves, which is why you can get a company like ExxonMobil, an energy company, an oil and gas company that will be driven by their shareholders, like BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street, to become a green

company. I mean, this is insane. You are not a green company, Exxon. You produce oil and gas. You drill for it, and you deliver it to customers. And it's a carbon, and yes, it pollutes some, but it makes capitalism and freedom and economies work. And you're being driven to become green. That's happening because of these investors. I get that. But what happens when you have a situation like Bud Light or like Target, where the decision that BlackRock is pushing that company to do causes them to lose tens of billions of dollars?

That's a good question. So BlackRock is big, trillions of dollars they invest. And they get people to give them that much money because they've traditionally done a pretty good job investing people's money. They get a good return on people's money. There's a good return on their investments, right? Which is why people give them their cash. Well, if they're investing in companies like Disney or Budweiser or Target and pushing them further left, and like with Target, their market cap has dropped 15 billion.

Budweiser has dropped $20 billion. All of a sudden, BlackRock, in these investments, they're losing major money, right? These are dogs in their portfolios, and that'll hurt their performance, which might make people go, hey, I want to go to a different company. Can I pick a different company? Because I don't want my retirement money to be handled by BlackRock. I don't feel like I... Can I tell Fox? Can I tell whatever company I work for to not invest? Because I know that Vivek Ramaswamy has Strive. He has another- He started Strive Capital, right.

But can I say to my HR person, I want my retirement to go to Strive instead of- But I think a lot of people have experience that we have, which is I was in the House. And so I have a retirement- The U.S. House of Representatives. I have a state of Wisconsin retirement. I have all these different things that I've done. You have a Fox retirement. Now, people, because they've had different jobs, have their retirements in different places. And when you leave your job, right, you can take the retirement from that job and move it somewhere else.

But as long as I'm at my company, my company gets to decide. As long as you're at Fox, you're stuck with the Fox plan. But when you leave Fox, just like when I left the Wisconsin government, I can move my Wisconsin retirement somewhere else, to someone else. And we should use those opportunities. There's not a lot of options. But again, you got to look for the strides of the world because part of the problem is not only do you have woke young people who have gone through Yale and Harvard and have come out and are driving these policies in these companies, right? They're getting high elevated positions in these companies. They're also being driven by the shareholders, meaning BlackRock and State Street

and Vanguard. And so there's a lot of pressure, even though it's bad for business, to go down this path. Now, Tim Kramer said, by the way, Sean, this sounds like a conspiracy, but it's not. It's not. So I want to talk about, is it a conspiracy? And I think we should go to the horse himself, Larry Fink, who runs BlackRock. Let's see what Larry has to say about whether this is a conspiracy or not. Listen to him. Behaviors have to change. And this is one thing we're asking companies. You have to force behaviors.

And at BlackRock, we are forcing behaviors. What we are doing internally is if you don't achieve these levels of impact, your compensation could be impacted, okay? You have to force behaviors. And if you don't force behaviors, whether it's gender or race or just any way you want to say the composition of your team, you're going to be impacted. You're going to be impacted. So there's what I think saying, we want to force

behavior with their investing in how they vote their shares. We want levels of impact. We can affect CEO pay. We want to force behavior, whether it's in regard to gender or with regard to race. And so Tim Kramer on your show is not talking about a conspiracy theory. He's actually talking about what Larry Fink is actually admitting himselfitism is just so it's so disgusting. It's rich. But Larry Fink is tied in also, you know, and all these investment firms with the W.E.F., with the World Economic Forum. And people who are listening should go and do their own research on what is the W.E.F. So many of these climate policies, this kind of gender ideology that doesn't, you know, that hurts kids and doesn't match your values. This is all being pushed by a man named Klaus Schwab, who runs a WEF. He's a really weirdo guy. You can do your own research, but this is where all of this is emanating from. This is what Tim was trying to say is the root, root, root. So you have the WEF and then the WEF influences these investment firms and people like Larry Fink who agree with them and go to those those, you know, fancy meetings that they have in Davos and all these kind of places.

But the root of it is the WEF. And if you get to the root of Klaus Schwab, he is a socialist. He's a Marxist. He's a Marxist. Bob, he is a socialist. He's a Marxist. He's a Marxist. And that's why they use these fancy words, stakeholder capitalism, because they know if they tell you what they really are, you're going to be repelled by it.

Because it's still, although young people are becoming more and more acclimated to the socialism, the word socialism not being as pejorative as it is for our generation, they know that if they called it stakeholder capitalism, which is a fancy word for socialism or pushing an agenda that they want, it means not doing what's right for the stockholder. Right. So we used to have a concept that was called maximize shareholder return. Companies do all they can to maximize the value of the people who own their company. That's the way companies operated. Well, there's been a transition over the first transition, I think happened about four years ago. And they've said, no, no, we're concerned about stakeholder capitalism. So it's not just, we're just not going to do what's going to be best for those who own our company, our shareholders.

We have to look at the community as a whole. So our workers, those who live in our communities. Climate activists. All of them. And so I would just argue that if you can focus on the stakeholder, I think that is, that allows you to do a lot of things that aren't in the best interest of those who own the company. And by the way, good companies who make good profits,

they care about their employees. They care about the people in the community in which they reside, where the company is at. They care about being good stewards of the environment. They care about all the things that fall under the umbrella of stakeholder capitalism, but they're focused on shareholder return. And profit. And when you can separate those two and look at stakeholders, all of a sudden you can do a lot of weird things in your company that don't maximize return. Evidenced by Target. Target can actually push a transgender agenda that's not going to maximize the return of their investors, right? Because their investors are getting clobbered. Their stock prices are down 20%. They're able to actually go, well, our stakeholders, our community, which would be the transgender community, the environmental community, the gay community, we're going to push that agenda

and our investors, our stockholders be damned. Right. But I can do the same thing. And Tim said that, you know, what normally would happen is that the SEC would jump in and go, listen, you have a fiduciary responsibility to care about maximizing profits for the people who own your company, the shareholders. But the SEC is infected by the same virus. So, listen, we don't have the answer to how to how to solve this. I mean, we simply don't. I mean, I wish I could, you know, move my money over to be fixed. Hold on a second.

I do think there are some solutions, right? When you vote with your dollar and you don't go to Target and you don't go to Disney and you don't buy Bud Light, that has real impact on these companies. And it's amazing when people stick together and vote with their money because these companies don't share their values and you don't want your dollar to go to their profit to undermine the very things that you believe in, in your family, in your country, and your faith. Those have real impacts. I'm just going to say last night, I've talked about canceling Disney for a long time. And I've tried numerous times to cancel Disney Plus. And I haven't been able to do it. Why?

I don't know why. I was like. You're trying to cancel it and it's not letting you? And finally, last night, I was able to cancel my Disney Plus. And that, what are they charging me? The kids will find out. The kids will find out. I don't like Disney Plus, but I'm not a big fan. But I'm at a place where I'm like, you know, I'm not going to fund you.

So you can't vote. Breaks my heart with the park, so Sean, it just breaks my heart. You can vote with your dollar. You can also think about the money that you have that's not with your current employer. You can get that out and you can send it to a place that meets your values. And just one other thing, you talked about the World Economic Forum. You can look at videos that come from them. They said you will own nothing and be happy, right? Yeah. Those are their own produced videos. They have a new idea. This is part of the Great Reset. You all should look into it.

It is not a conspiracy theory. It's their own words, their own videos. Do your own research, figure out what's happening. Because the first step, you're right, Sean, I didn't mean to undermine the boycotts because I actually think they're really important for sending a message. But part of why we talk about this stuff isn't just to make ourselves sick in the stomach, because it does make me sick in the stomach hearing what's happening in this world. But we do have to know what's happening and where it's coming from. And we hope that this conversation gets to the root of it. It is the WEF. It is these investment firms like BlackRock and State Street who are pushing this and the activists who are pushing them. And it's important to know what is happening in order to fight back.

And there are governors who are doing stuff. I think that I think DeSantis and a few other governors have said, we're not going to allow our state pension money to go to these kinds of companies. somewhat reticent to say this movement is Marxist and communist. And the more research I've done, the more obvious it has become that this is a fundamental transformation from freedom and our founding principles to this concept of Marxism that has never worked, that takes away freedom, that empowers people at the top, the elites, the pull-up bureau, if you will, and takes away your freedom. And that's why I think it's so important to fight back because I do believe that it's our job to pass the great gift of America onto the next generation. Our forefathers did that for us. It's our job to do that for the next generation. And it's not easy, but it's completely doable. One way to understand it, because it's hard, because there's all these economic ideas.

It's like Chinese capitalism, essentially, right? There's this surveillance culture. They try and push you into different directions, whether it's through this investment, through what they want you to do, their surveillance. We're moving towards a social credit score system in the same way that the Chinese have. So the way to look at it is there's still profit making happening, right? The Chinese are making money, but they're controlling it. And it's the people at the top who control it. And you in the middle and lower classes start to lose your freedom when you're not in control. That's what's going to be, that is what's happening. We'll have more of this conversation after this.

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she said on the view yesterday or two days ago i i think that women white women in particular want to protect us patriarchy here because it's to their benefit they want to make sure that their husbands do well they want to make sure that their sons do well they want to make sure that their children do well and they want to make sure that they do well. Most of the women in some of these studies are married white women, and they do fall in line with what their husbands are doing. So listen, I, I, well, you go ahead. You can tell me what you think. No, you go, you go first. I mean, the women are doing what their husbands tell them, and they're doing it for their own benefit to help, you know, their husbands and their and theirs and their children. And it's basically for their economics. And I would go, you know what, the white patriarchal hierarchical system. And I would say that a lot of people, as they cast their votes, they're casting their votes against sexualizing children.

They're casting their votes against this Marxist socialist regime that's, you know, come into play. They're casting their votes to say, I want a secure border. I want to know who's coming into my country. I want energy independence. Right. I want economic freedom. There's a lot of reasons why people cast their votes. And if you're a mom and you have a young son, you go, well, why would I want my young son to be raised in a vile racial world where they're not going to be judged by the merits of their skills and their work ethic. They're going to be judged solely on the color of their skin and their genitalia.

That is, I mean, if I, I'm not a mom, I'm a dad, but I'll be like, hell no, I'm not going to vote for that. I like the old system where it's based on meritocracy. Yeah. And she would say the old system was a racist system. But what we're talking about is the post civil rights era where somewhere in the 80s and 90s, I think we got to a place where we were. And you can actually see, Sean, there's polling where Americans, black, white, brown, Asian, we're all very pretty much happy with racial with the way the racial equality was starting to to form itself and then Barack Obama came in and started fermenting a lot of racial um racialization of America and and now it's gone in this other direction you know with BLM and everything else and now everyone you know you look at black people they their idea of how you know discriminatory our society is, is like off the charts. But just not very long ago, pre-Obama, they were actually more satisfied.

So it's a really interesting thing. If you gin people up, if you make a cottage industry out of racializing everything and making everybody fight each other and think that they're out to get each other, it works politically for some people. It also makes a lot of people like Al Sharpton very, very, very rich. And so I look at this and I hear her saying that, you know, people are voting for their interests. Yeah, we are voting for our interests. I'm not I I am not a white woman. I am voting for energy independence. I am voting for anything that protects my children from the sexualization, as you said, you know, that's going on in the culture that's just overtaking everything. I'm voting to get money out of Ukraine and back into the American economy

to work for the American people. I'm voting for a lot of things. And by the way, this white patriarchal system that she claims exists has made Sunny Hostin very, very, very rich. And she is one of those race baiter type people who profits off of ginning up more of this. who were not slaveholders. So I look at my family. My family came after the Civil War, right? But on both sides, my mom and dad's side, they came after the Civil War. They had nothing to do with slavery. But if they did, they were in Wisconsin and Wisconsin fought to end slavery, right? They were in the Union.

Right? Your family wasn't here during slavery either. No. Right? But to think that we weren't here for slavery, our forefathers weren't, but we're going to pay the sins of someone else's forefathers. I mean, it's so bizarre. And so if I'm voting to go, I'm not, we're not paying prior debts because if the world starts to try to figure out how do we pay prior debts and how far back do we go, it becomes really bizarre.

What you want to do is say, I want to give everybody opportunity. I want everyone to have a really great education, which is why that if you're in a failing school system in a minority neighborhood, you have a right to get out. And if your politicians won't let you up, but want to just give you a check through reparations because they don't believe you have the skill sets to make it, well, screw them. Go, I want my kids to have great knowledge and great schools. And if you can't give it in the government, I want my money and have great knowledge and great schools. And if you can't give it in the government, I want my money and I want to go somewhere else to make sure my kids have a shot at the American dream. That's the freedom they don't want you to have. And interestingly, it's

people like Sonny Hostin, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, these people who purport to care about minorities who are blocking that kind of educational freedom where poor people can get out of very poor school systems and use the money to go to better schools and educate themselves and advance in a society that, you know, allows them to, you know, move across class lines. Now, if you're trapped in a school, you'll be trapped in the poor class. And they want to control you. People like Sunny have made a lot of money off of purporting to be the voice of the downtrodden. They need you to stay down because once you're up, you don't need them and you don't need her to be your voice. And I think that's what this is all about. I really wish this show didn't have the cultural influence that it does. Sadly, it does. And this is the kind of garbage that comes out of it.

So Sonny Houston, or you mentioned Al Sharpton, they can talk about how bad things are for everybody to how the system needs to be better. They don't do anything. Al Sharpton doesn't do anything to make the community stronger, better, healthier. He's not going into the subways of New York. And is it Neely who was choked and died? He's not going out and getting Jordan Neely going to get other homeless people on trains and on the streets and helping them out. He doesn't do anything. Black Lives Matter took millions upon millions of dollars and they enriched themselves, but didn't help anybody out. So it's a game of wealth and empowerment by using someone else's suffering, grievance, as opposed to going, let's stop with the grievance. Let's give the opportunity.

You had such a great guest on the other day on your show, Sean, this pastor who talked about what the real of your skin is, family and faith truly matter. And this pastor was like, listen, we have to do more in Black communities and with Black pastors. And he was African-American himself to go, listen, we need more people, more fathers in the home. We need more people going to church. And the churches need to do more to have a cultural influence in these communities. They can't sit back and throw their hands up. They need to be engaged. He was an amazing guest.

He was an amazing guest. We should actually, I'm going to post that on my Facebook page. I know you have it on yours. I'm going to make sure it's on mine. I'm going to put it on mine as well. It was an amazing interview. But interestingly, Sean, who is promoting faith and family formation and cohesion? And school choice.

And school choice. And school choice. And who is fighting against that? That should tell you everything. And a story and a conversation. That should tell you- Can I make one last point on this? Everything you need to know. Yes.

I think that anyone listening to this podcast, if you're married, to think that the patriarch, the man in the house is going to tell their wife how to vote. Sunny, I'm sorry. I don't know what kind of house you live in. That does not happen in my house. I'm sure men across America are laughing, belly laughing at how ridiculous that is. Now, we might have, by the way, we see eye to eye on a lot of things. We do.

We debate a lot of stuff. Yeah. But your parents were a great example. His father is about to turn 90. Your mom is what, like 89, 88, 89? 88. She's 88. He's about to turn 90 this year. So think about how old they are. They were married probably in the 50s.

Yeah. Yep. They married in the 50s. Sean's at the tail end of the of the 11 kids that they had. Your mom was a big old liberal from the beginning, and she's been voting liberal for a long, long time. In fact, she convinced your father to become a Democrat. So this this idea that, you know, even in the 50s, there were women who were voting the way they wanted. Of course, they had the right to vote thanks to the suffragists. And then they were actually influential in the home. And by the way,

when I would talk, when I was part of the Libra initiative, trying to go into Hispanic communities and talk about, you know, how to achieve the American dream. I mean, it was really clear, like, if you could talk to the mom, if you were able to explain limited government and free enterprise and opportunity and all the things that we think are the tools to achieving the American dream, if you could convince the mom, you'd get the family, right? So this idea that somehow women, regardless of their race, are beholden to their husbands and vote the way. No, yeah, they're voting for what's right for their family, which includes their husbands and their sons and their daughters. Nothing wrong with that. She's saying white women are stupid. Or evil, evil.

We'll vote the way their husbands want them to, and it's very simple. A lot of people who are Republican are saying, I'm rejecting Marxism, socialism, a nanny state government, and I'm voting for freedom, and I'm voting for meritocracy. It's as simple as that. And morality. Which, by the way, is not so crazy because those concepts, those ideas go back hundreds of years in this country, Sonny. I do a little history lesson and it's brought great wealth, great upward mobility, and that has been attainable for far more people in this country. It wasn't always that way, but it has been now. Those opportunities of American capitalism have been offered to everybody, and that's why everybody should vote for those concepts. It's part of a trend that I see that's very dangerous and sad, which is the vilification of white women who don't think the way they think that they should think,

that are accused of wrong think, right? You know, you see that in the word Karen. The word Karen really bugs me because, you know, you and I know lots of Karens, and one of the Karens I know is one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. Such a kind, good person. You're not using the term slang as Karen. Her name is actually Karen.

She's a wonderful person. Yeah, her name is Karen. Right. And the word Karen is used as a pejorative. There is this thing that if you, you know, that you can attack white women, blame them for the patriarchy, blame them for all this stuff, blame them for voting for Donald Trump, when in fact they are voting their interests, but their interests aren't white supremacy or holding up a white supremacist system or patriarchy. or holding up a white supremacist system or patriarchy, the reasons for voting are very complex and very nuanced. And it has to do with the prices at the grocery store,

has to do with energy and the price to fill up their cars. It has to do with the kinds of things that we're seeing at Target and Disney. Those are all things that women are fighting to protect their families and protect their family incomes. It's normal. What bothers me is the racism and sexism of the Democrat Party to say, if you're a certain skin color, you have to vote this way. You're only a Democrat if you're a certain skin color. You're supposed to vote Democrat. I mean, I'm sorry, we have free thinking people both in races and sexes, and they should be able to think freely and analyze the world and the politicians the way they see fit. And as free people,

they get to choose. They're not stuck in one party. Because that just gives you political power. And we go, I don't care about political power. I care about the freedom of people to make decisions for the future of their country with elected officials that are going to satisfy their needs, whether it's economically or safety-wise. As a woman and as a Hispanic, I don't have to run my decisions by Sonny Hostin because I'm still free and I'm going to speak out while I can in this country. And I don't run it by Sean. I vote the way I want to vote, but I do vote for my family. Thank you. All right. Listen, thanks for joining us on our podcast. Great conversation, good topics. I appreciate it, Rachel.

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