From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Classic Questions: Trading Screen Time For Family Time

Episode Date: March 30, 2024

This Easter weekend, many families are taking time to prioritize connection with one another and with Christ. In honor of that, Rachel and Sean are looking back on a special Q&A episode where they dig... into how they keep their children off social media and focus on their family. They explain how they handle technology in their house, why they keep their kids off social media, and why staying off of your phone in a relationship is important.   Later, they take questions on how their appearances on reality television impacted their professional careers, and what their favorite home-cooked meals are. Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:20 So you can look and feel good about gifting and wearing them. Shop your wishlist 25% off at Mijeri.com today. Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Hey, Sean, it's so great to be back at our kitchen table. And you know, we love our third episode of The Week, which is all of your questions for Sean and I. And a lot of people want to ask us advice on things or just want to make comments. And so we have a whole list of them and we're going to get right to it. So the first question I have, they want to know, how did being on reality TV help or not help your professional life? So Sean, I think we should start with you because you're the first one to sort of see how reality TV affected our professional lives when you made that run for Congress?
Starting point is 00:01:25 Sure. So I see. It's a great question. So when I finished up reality TV and about a year, year and a half later, I graduated from law school, but in that time I had done a special, you and I were dating. At the end of law school, we got married and I passed the bar and what I found was interesting was as I was a young lawyer in rural Wisconsin trying to get work, a lot of cases are given out by judges who the county has to pay for people who are indigent. And also those who are getting public defenders.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So people who don't have money. People who don't have money. That's right. People who don't have money. People who don't have money. That's right. And so I was getting a lot of cases because a lot of the secretaries in the judge's office that actually are the ones that hand out the cases knew who I was from reality TV. And there was a little more generosity in the cases that I got as a new lawyer.
Starting point is 00:02:18 And I was traveling to five or six counties around our home of Sawyer County at the time. So it was helpful in getting work, especially work that I wasn't drumming up, but it was coming from the court itself. And then I think when I ran for Congress, some ads were run against me, if you remember, Rachel, saying, I'm just a Hollywood lumberjack. I did lumberjack sports and I did lumberjack commercials. And they're like, Sean Duffy's a Hollywood lumberjack. He's a Hollywood guy. And they would play some clips from the real world. And the problem that the Democrats had when they did that to me was twofold. Because first, I was actually doing lumberjack sports. It was me log rolling,
Starting point is 00:02:58 me chopping, me climbing trees. So I couldn't be fake. There was not a stunt double. And so people are like, what do you mean he's hollywood he's a lumberjack but on the flip side when they were saying i did reality tv those who had watched the real world were like oh yeah oh i remember he was on the real yeah he was a nice guy he was a lumberjack so it actually played to my benefit um where you know you know i think the people here's the deal. You saw with Donald Trump as well, whether it, there's a feeling that you have a relationship with that person. And you know that person. You're intimate with that person. It's strange, but it's true. That's why someone will come up to you, Rachel, on the street and be like,
Starting point is 00:03:56 Rachel, remember when you said this or you did that? You've never met them before, but they feel like they know you. this, or you did that. You've never met them before, but they feel like they know you. And in politics, that's really wonderful because you have a relationship with part of the voting public because you were in their living room, sharing yourself with them. And so, yeah, I think. Yeah, it's not like, Sean, it's not like an actor. It's not like you're Brad Pitt and you're this like, you know, bigger than life person or you're Tom Cruise. It's like you're on reality TV. They're seeing you, you know, before you go to bed.
Starting point is 00:04:30 They see you as you're eating cereal in the morning. They see you arguing with your roommates or talking to your parents. So it's a different kind. You're a celebrity, but it's a totally different kind of celebrity because it's a celebrity because people know you and you're talking about your life. You're not playing a character. You wake up with bedhead. They see it. You walk around in your boxers.
Starting point is 00:04:51 They see. I mean, there's a lot of familiarity that comes from reality TV. People get to see your best moments and your worst moments. And in politics, that's helpful. No, but I will say, Rachel, I mean, from my perspective, and I want to get your take too, there are some embarrassing things that you do. And those can be used on reality TV and those clips air over and they'll try to replay them and repost them. The benefit, however, is with the popularity of social media, is with the popularity of social media,
Starting point is 00:05:28 a lot of people, not just reality TV folks, but everyone is putting up stupid stuff or they're recorded doing stupid stuff and the internet is full of people making not the greatest choices. But when we did the real world, that was the only outlet. There wasn't a Facebook or an Instagram, a Snapchat. Those didn't exist social media it was only really mtv yeah that's a good point you know it's interesting because um sean
Starting point is 00:05:51 is the first person this is his claim to fame your first claim to fame is we're the we're the first reality tv couple that's gotten married we've been married the longest than any other reality couple we're the most fertile from any other reality TV couple. We have the first reality TV child. Yeah, it was not Kanye and Kim Kardashian. It was Evita Duffy. It was not their, what is it, Northwest? I think was the first baby's name.
Starting point is 00:06:18 It was Evita Duffy. But also, you were the first person to come from out of reality TV and on to national politics. Donald Trump is only the second. And I remember you telling me, Sean, that when you went to the Oval Office once and you were talking with Donald Trump and you mentioned that to him, he did not like that story. He doesn't like to be second to anybody. He didn't like that story. Also, we were on Air Force One flying to Duluth, Minnesota for a rally that he was doing. And on the plane, it's obviously right next to my district, which was in Superior.
Starting point is 00:06:53 That's the Twin Ports. And we were talking about Minnesota and Wisconsin. And he had asked about my district that we were flying over at that time and how he did. And I said, listen, you did really well, Mr. President, you almost did as well as I did. And oh, God, he was he didn't take kindly to that either. He was he was kind of offended that that he didn't do better than me in my own district where people actually know me better than than him. And again, it's but that's also why he's like, and I don't want America to be second either. I want America to be first. I want the American people to be first.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And it's it can be a it can be a pretty great trade. So tell me, how did reality TV affect you in your career? Well, you know, I didn't plan on going into television. And after I did The Real World, which, you know, sort of blew up in the third season of The Real World, which was my season, Barbara Walters and her producers sort of were putting together. They were in this there was this new show called The View and it had been on for a little while and they wanted to replace one of their young, the person who was sort of cast as the young person. And they were trying to get rid of her and put someone else in and I was one of the people that Barbara Walters she had me come out and meet with her and I auditioned for the show and I almost got the show I was in the finals it was
Starting point is 00:08:17 between myself and Lisa Ling and sort of that got that audition, in addition to the real world, being part of The View because they had me come back and fill in other times. I've probably done it like 25 different times. So doing that has really helped put me on the trajectory in terms of my TV career, which took a huge, long hiatus because of all the kids we had and then i kind of came back and and and ended up at fox but um yeah i mean it totally changed i i would i had no intention of going into reality tv i thought i was going to become a diplomat i had studied economics and international affairs for my grad school work and in the middle of that
Starting point is 00:09:03 i did the real world and realized that there was this other world. And because I did it and Barbara called, it put me on that path. So that's how it's changed my life. And of course, the most important thing is I ended up meeting you, Sean, and the rest is history. That's the most important thing I had coming out of reality TV was you also. We'll have more of this conversation after this. This episode is brought to you by Mejuri. From November 25th to December 2nd, get 25% off everything on orders over $150 in Mejuri's biggest sale ever. From bold hoops to minimalist stacks, Mejuri has something for everyone.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Mejuri makes handcrafted fine jewelry for every day made with responsibly sourced materials. So you can look and feel good about gifting and wearing them. Shop your wishlist 25% off at Mejuri.com today. So that's reality TV and the Duffies and our careers. Let's go to another question that we had come in, Rachel. It's about cell phones and cell phone use
Starting point is 00:10:03 and social media use and how we try to navigate that ourselves. But the question was really about how do you manage cell phone use in your kids? And I think this kind of can apply to if you have kids in your life that are of the age of cell phones and social media, but also how do we try to manage our own cell phone use? So what's your take on that question? So you and I have had a real journey on this question. So when cell phones, you know, became a thing, we weren't, by the way, there were no cell phones when Sean and I were dating. So that was not part of our dating life. When we had kids, a lot of, that's how how old we are i know that's how long we've been
Starting point is 00:10:45 married uh but you know we had the question of when you know a lot of people were letting their kids have cell phones when their kids were in you know grade school because i think a lot of people at that time what it beat us 20 some years old 23 years old and so a lot of people didn't understand the ramifications the long-term psychological um social ramifications of cell phones a lot of people didn't understand the ramifications the long-term psychological social ramifications of cell phones a lot of people were having them in grade school we never let our kids have them in grade school but when avita was in was she in junior high or ninth grade sean i think she was a freshman maybe ninth no because no remember because she she started the new school and halfway through her eighth grade.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So I think it was a freshman year. She was in ninth grade. So we let her have it in ninth grade. And then we let the two next children have phones. And by the fourth, all the evidence was clear, both anecdotally in our own life and all the studies that were coming out. And we realized just how harmful these phones are to family connection, to human connection, to self-esteem, to all of it. And so the child number four is now a freshman and does not have a phone and will not have a phone as far as I'm concerned until
Starting point is 00:12:05 maybe until she starts driving and it will be like one of those flip phones. So we've done an about face on this, Sean. I mean, we're just like, no, we're not going to put this in the hands of our children anymore. We're done. We've evolved, as some might say. We've evolved. We've evolved. And just, I'm going to do a little side note here because when you have so many kids, sometimes you forget their names and sometimes you don't know what number comes in what place. So Rachel just said for the fourth child, the fourth child, I've said no more. But the truth is that's actually the fifth child. The fifth child, this is the one who got the brunt of our knowledge in cell phones. Yeah. Think about people who only have two kids. They never get any do-overs.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It took us the fifth child to get it right. Can I say this? It took me to the sixth child to figure out exactly how I wanted childbirth to go. And so six, seven, eight, and nine were perfect. That's actually true. Done the way I wanted. That's actually true. Childbirth was good for the last three.
Starting point is 00:13:06 It took you six times to figure out what I wanted from you during childbirth. If you were getting what you wanted, I was great in childbirth. I know. But if you didn't get what you want, it was disastrous.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You had a lot of first, second, third, fourth. But I think this is an interesting point. We talked about when we dated, we didn't have cell phones, and cell phones come on the scene. And as you mentioned, there's no information, there's no data. And so it's kind of like when you read about, when could someone drive back in the 40s? When your dad said you were old enough and responsible enough to drive.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And with cell phones, it's kind of the same thing. It's like, well, when did dad said you were old enough and responsible enough to drive. And with cell phones, it's kind of the same thing. It's like, well, how, when do you get your kid a cell phone? It's like when they need it and they're responsible enough. And so the first couple, they were like freshman years of high school. The first three actually were in that time frame. The fourth one, we got him a cell phone earlier than that. And by the way, I think he's pretty well, he manages his cell phone probably better than others, our fourth child. And he got it late in eighth grade. But do you remember why we got it for him early, Sean? I do. Because he was
Starting point is 00:14:13 in hockey. And he needed to call us if we forgot him, which happened occasionally. That did happen. But here's what's interesting. I think that this is not an easy decision. So the problems that we have with the fifth child is she's a freshman. She doesn't have a phone, but we send our kids to a smaller Catholic school and a lot of the parents and their kids don't allow their kids to have cell phones. For most families, the whole social sphere of your young children are on social media. We used to call each other, and then we used to text each other. Well, they don't do either of those things. They're all on social media communicating. And if you're not on social media, and usually you're not on social media if you don't have a phone, you're completely out of the loop, and you can't engage with your classmates and your friends outside of school. And so it creates some issues. It's okay for our fifth one, because again, she doesn't have a whole social sphere where they're
Starting point is 00:15:11 all on phones and social media. But what we have done, and I mentioned this in the past, which is we do have a family computer and it's in the office. It's on the first floor. So it's not right in the kitchen kitchen but she can access some social media we don't let her allow all of it we had a problem recently where she got an account on one of the social media sites i don't know if you want to say that or we just don't share that but then we had a we had to you know go after and go listen take that one down you're not allowed on that one but we found sometimes is she, we think she's upstairs doing homework and all of a sudden she's in the office on social media on the computer. And we've had to kind of put a clamp on that. But the beauty of it is, is we know where
Starting point is 00:15:54 she's at. She can't wake up to it. She can't go to bed to it with it because it's downstairs in our little office with the computer there. And so there's far more controls on social media. But even with that, I mean, like the way we found out that she had that account was through an older sibling who saw it. And I think by and large, a lot of parents, and we're guilty of this. I mean, I'm like the, I'm so tech challenged. I can barely work my Twitter account. But the kids are so much more advanced. And so our daughter Evita just had an article out on the Federalist, if you get a chance, it's really good, on AI and Snapchat.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Most parents don't have Snapchat. And she sort of did a little bit of a dive into what's going on with AI and Snapchat. And it's just really scary. I mean, the AI, the artificial intelligence in many ways is becoming another parent. So young people have a problem that they might normally go and ask their parent about, like, I'm struggling with this. They're now going to their phones and saying, I'm struggling with this. And the answer that comes back is a programmed, you know, answer that I guarantee people watching, you know, listening to this show would not agree with. So if you say I'm confused about my gender, it's going to tell you that you should look into, you know, you know, that gender is fluid, and you should look into
Starting point is 00:17:30 potentially your transgender. I mean, it's it really leads kids down this other path. And in a lot of ways, it's become another parent to kids who Google or look for answers from these social media platforms. And now with artificial intelligence, it's even scarier. So I think that is a frightening new frontier. But I also think it's important to talk about even our own social media use, Rachel, and how we manage it. And so, again, I do think people are more detached. People are more isolated.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's more depressing because it's not real. And you mentioned that AI, that partner you have through this artificial intelligence isn't real. And it's not fulfilling. But all of us are pulled into our phones. Our work takes us into our phones, our families, our our, our, our families or communication, like everything's in the phone and it does pull us away. And so your job is to make sure that you're up to date on all the information. You got to know the news and what people are saying and what the perspectives are. That's your job. And one of the problems we had is at, at, when we would go to bed
Starting point is 00:18:42 at night sometimes, and that's's we have a lot of kids and sometimes that's the only time that you have down and free to kind of get on and relax and look at what's happening in the news well we got a little we've had fights about this we have sean will be like you're on your phone and i'm like i know i haven't had a chance to catch up a lot of my news i get from twitter um articles that I read and download and so forth. And I try to tell Sean that he feels, you know, obviously like, you know, a little bit neglected is the word.
Starting point is 00:19:15 And I let Sean know that there's no one in the whole world I'd rather scroll through my Twitter next to than Sean Duffy. But that doesn't seem to satisfy. And sometimes when I get really mad, I'm like, fine, you go snuggle with Twitter, go snuggle with your phone. That's what he's saying. But no. Yeah. And sometimes I just want to snuggle with my phone and that's not right because I have a human being laying right next to me. And it is a good reminder that that is what we, um, you know, and that is, I think the
Starting point is 00:19:43 struggle with AI and Sean, we've been talking about wanting to do a podcast on just dedicated just to artificial intelligence. But we need to have theologians. We need to have ethicists on the show with us, because I think we're moving into a really dangerous, you know, transhumanist new world. And there are people out there who do not share the values that we all share that truly want that world for us, that don't care whether that connection is with somebody who has a soul. Maybe they don't even believe we have a soul. And I think it's going to present even more challenges to young people who are growing up, you know, not it not knowing what it's like to be in an unplugged world or have truly authentic human connection uh because as you see a lot of kids will be in the same room with each other and still
Starting point is 00:20:32 text each other instead of talking to each other it's really a troubling new they're sitting on chairs and couches in this in the same room and they're not looking at each other talking joking like most kids do they're on their phones texting or they'll take a picture to make it look like it's fun and send that out like they're having a blast, but it's not real, it was all staged. But I do think- Sean, we always talk about how we have always felt like,
Starting point is 00:20:57 at least for me, and I know you've said you felt the same, I felt like my whole high school years were me scheming to go out. We've tried to find ways to get out and go hang out with my friends. And, you know, it could be because my, our kids have like nine, you know, there's nine siblings, right? So maybe there's a lot of, you know, social going on anyway with them in the house, but I just don't feel the same kind of, I don't know, like it was a necessity for me. Like I was, it was constantly on my mind.
Starting point is 00:21:27 How do I get out? I got to convince my mom. I got to go out. I got to go meet my friends. I got to get out of the house. I got to socialize. And I just don't feel the same urgency for socialization from our kids. And I think that's part of their generation. But can I tell you what, I think what happens is these technologies have perfected trying to get your attention, trying to get you to engage with it. And now what's happened is we feel like it's necessary that we're on these platforms, that we're engaging with our work, that we're, and all of those things, again, take us away. And at some point we have to make conscious decisions. We have to be thoughtful about these issues and say, you know what? I don't have to be on all the time. I don't have to be responsive to my job 24, seven, seven days a week. I don't have to.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And, and if you think about it and are conscious about it and make decisions that, that, that puts you back in the realm of real people and real relationships and real conversations, I think that's, what's really important. And when we were more conscious about, cause we don't have that when we both have jobs and families. And at one point we had to go, Hey, listen, we've got to find different time for these things because this is the only time we have together right now. And if we didn't talk about that and think about it, um, all of a sudden our relationship then suffers because it's being consumed by something that's not as important, which is Twitter or the information flow off of Twitter. And so I think we all have to be thinking through how we use our time and where we put our time
Starting point is 00:22:55 and at what time do we get on social? What time do we give to our families and our loved ones? So I think that's our take on that. It is a constant struggle for me. It is a constant, constant struggle for me. Um, and, and something I constantly, you're so well informed though, Rachel, but Sean, Sean is, is great at reminding me when I'm too much on my Twitter. It's a fight. It is one of the, one of the fights that we get in because of, and again, and we're thoughtful about it and we're still fighting about it, but you've been good. You've been good trying to go, okay, yeah, yeah, no, you're right. That's not.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Imagine being 16 and not having a sort of discipline or even somebody. Totally. I mean, it's really hard. Okay. So here's a question I got. What are you reading or what is the last book you read? I'll start so i am so it's i'm going to divide it out because i read nightly to my kids so with patrick and margarita we're reading the secret garden by francis hodgson hodgson burnett um which i love is an amazing book on
Starting point is 00:24:00 so many levels i really believe in the power of reading. I did an interview once, Sean, when I, on Fox Nation, I had a mom show and I interviewed a woman who wrote all about the, just the psychological and spiritual benefits of reading with your children. It really was amazing. I believe it was called The Golden Hour. It was a great book. And just, there's all kinds of data. But, but of course you can just feel it when you bond with your kids and you read at night. We really look forward to that. And this book, um, it's such a great book. Um, I am, I'm one of those people that has like three or four different books that I'm reading at the same time. So, um, one of them that I'm reading is live not by lies by Rod Dreyer, which is a manual for Christian dissidents.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I'm starting a book by Lian Ji because Ji Ban Fleet recommended a book called Blood Letters by Lian Ji. It's the untold story of Lin Zhao, a martyr of Mao's China. And then we had this podcast, Sean, a couple weeks ago, a week or so ago. It's called Theology of the Home, and this is the At the Sea edition, which I love as well. So those are the four books that I'm in the middle of right now. See, I can't do that, right? Reading four books at the same time is crazy. I know, it's terrible. I don't recommend my whole style of reading. So here's, I love to read and I
Starting point is 00:25:32 oftentimes find only when I go on vacation do I think about bringing a book and reading it and I enjoy that, but I find it hard in my everyday life to pick up a book and take time to read and it's so important. I find that we're reading articles and trying to get up on the news. Think pieces. Yeah, and that's time consuming. But I don't think it's as enjoyable as actually sitting down with a good book.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And that's one thing I want to change. Maybe next year, on January 1st, that'll be my New Year's resolution. You don't have to wait. You could start this summer. Fine, all right, I'll start in the summer. But so here's. So right now, I loved David McCullough's book on the Wright Brothers. I thought it was flipping fascinating.
Starting point is 00:26:12 I loved it. Didn't know the whole story. It's an amazing book about the Wright Brothers and how they actually beat government. These two bike mechanics beat government and government funding to get man in the air. And so David McAuliffe also wrote a book called The Great Bridge. It's about the Brooklyn Bridge. I just, I bought it. Someone said it's another great book by him. And I just started, I'm like, through the first chapter. So I just started reading that. And again, I've had the book for three weeks and I've, I've got to the first chapter. That's how, again, that's my problem with, with books. But, um,
Starting point is 00:26:47 can I, can I say something, Sean? Cause we're, we are coming into summer. And I think, you know, hopefully this is a time that people can, can settle down. I do think, you know, we're just talking about tech and how tech, it doesn't just zap our time. It's actually changing our brains. So, you know, maybe 20 years ago, we might not have had as much trouble concentrating and reading for long periods of time. People's attention spans are really changing. And so I think retraining your brain to read books instead of tweets or even articles is really important to follow that story.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And I also say, you know, I talked a little bit about, you know, the Secret Garden and reading with the kids. You and I talk a lot about how important it is to expose your kids to great literature. We have the benefit that our kids are in a great books classical academy where they're getting exposed to the most amazing literature of western civilization um but even still on their downtime you know getting a good book and if your kids are in a public school they're probably not getting that the good stuff right and the summer is a great time online you can find really great books. I know Bill Bennett had a whole book, but he also has articles with sort of the essentials of what your child should know and read the classics, what those book titles are. And you can order them before the summer starts or just commit to one or two books that you think have good values and good messages.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And also, you'll be surprised. I mean, Margarita's in third grade, Patrick's in first grade. And, you know, this story is, you know, you know, there's some Yorkshire accents in it and there's, you know, a lot of language that is not contemporary and yet they're following it along. I think you'll be amazed at how much deeper and broader and your kids can read than you think, what their minds can handle. We don't have to dumb everything down for them. And so I think the summer is a great time
Starting point is 00:28:56 to have a reading list with your kids, read along with them or just assign them some books because I think that's a good thing to do. And what we do on occasion in our house and we don't get a whole lot of pushback on it at all, is we'll do a reading hour where everyone grab their book and let's sit down and read. And when we do it, actually the kids are all into it because they actually like to read as well. And so in your family, if you're like, you know what, I want my kids to start to read more. Maybe we're going to do a half an hour reading hour where we'll
Starting point is 00:29:23 sit in the living room and we're all going to grab our book and we're going to read. And I think that's a perfect example for your children. Or even if it's with, you know, you're dating someone. It's like, you know what, maybe we'll sit and drink coffee and let's do reading hour. And maybe we'll share, you know, what's happening in our books with each other as part of our, you know, morning coffee conversation. I think that's, there's a lot of information flow and there's a lot of bonding, even that can happen silently as people sit down and read.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Rachel, I know- That's very true. We have to go in a little bit, but I want to get to one last question before I actually have to run. And the question is, what is your favorite type of dinner night at our house? And I'm going to take this question.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I was thinking about you and I dinner night at our house. We could do, but we could take it to our family dinner night, but take it wherever you want. Well, I mean, our family loves tacos, so I love to make Mexican food and, and, and the kids love that. Um, but also you and I took a trip to Rome and we loved Italian food and we loved this zucchini Italian pizza pizza that doesn't sound like very that doesn't sound like it'd be really good zucchini pizza but it was amazing i tracked down the recipe and actually um i shared it with with uh my my co my co-host my colleague steve ducey who put it into his latest cookbook um so that's that. But when we have a really special occasion,
Starting point is 00:30:50 kids often ask for that or they ask for tacos, which you can never go wrong. By the way, on the pizza night- I make them like street tacos, by the way. They're really good. But on the pizza night, we actually, there's a lot of kid participation in making the pizza. And they're not just eating it, which by the way, I don't,
Starting point is 00:31:04 zucchini, like give me a break, I don't like zucchini. The zucchini pizza is fantastic. You're right. But there's a lot of participation, not just in the making, but then in the eating. You're right. And sometimes we have a little bar where all the kids will sit around. There's not enough room for all of them, but they might kind of eat in shifts or we do try to then, we have a round table that we all sit down at. Huge round table. Huge round table and have a conversation and and have a dinner for the two of us though i think sometimes it's harder for us to do date night and we've we've tried to do more date nights but it doesn't always happen like we would like and sometimes we'll just go okay we need some time alone let's order food out sometimes we'll go order sushi or we'll find something else or
Starting point is 00:31:45 whatever. We may even do pizza. Um, and we will, you know, try to let the kids go do something or get the kids to bed. And you and I will sit and, um, have a to-go meal, not to go, but the order in meal and sit. Well, I just found out that we're going to have date night next Friday. I think Sean, because you're doing your show i'm going to fill in for jesse waters and we can go out to dinner after which we love to do i love it so it's going to be it's going to be fun date night at fox news studios in new york maybe i could maybe well i was going to say maybe we go to dinner after that but we can't really because you have a show the next day you're up at i know but i can still go out for about an hour. And if you stay in the city, you can.
Starting point is 00:32:25 That's true. By the way, this is so odd for me. I'm like, unless you stay in the city. Like, I'm from Wisconsin. Like, did I actually come in here? It's fine. But I got to tell you what, I do miss Wisconsin. And I'm looking, maybe we'll do a podcast
Starting point is 00:32:35 about summer vacations. Because I'm like, I can't wait. You can't wait for the summer. To get back to Wisconsin. It's like, that's where my DNA is at. That's where my genetics are at. That's where your heart is. It really is.
Starting point is 00:32:48 And I just, I'm so, that summer's coming. I'm excited for the warm weather, but I'm excited about the time I get to go back really to my home, which is in the greatest state in the union, Wisconsin. Some of the nicest people. So I'm looking forward to that. We should talk about ideas for summer vacations in a future podcast here, Rachel. Absolutely. All right.
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