From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Do People Care More About Football Than The State of Our Country?
Episode Date: January 18, 2024It's been a busy couple of weeks in many different areas of our lives - football fans turning all attention to NFL playoff games, the Iowa caucuses making waves in the GOP primary, and drama amongst t...he British royal family stirring up yet again. To discuss it all, Sean and Rachel are joined by their daughter and writer at The Federalist Evita Duffy-Alfonso to discuss how Rachel shocked her Fox & Friends co-hosts, Will Cain and Pete Hegseth, with her unexpected football knowledge and why the US would be a better place if Americans cared as much about the country as they do about touchdowns. Later, they give their takes on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's 2-year-old daughter, Princess Lilibet, becoming the center of a new royal family squabble.  Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. hey everyone welcome back to the kitchen table i'm sean duffy along with my co-host of the podcast
my partner in life she's also my wife rachel campos duffy all right sean so it's been a big
week on a lot of levels and we have a lot of topics to talk about.
We're going to talk about Meghan and Harry getting caught lying about stealing the Queen's beloved, warm, cuddly nickname for their child.
So excited about that. That's going to be a lot of fun.
I know.
We're going to talk about something that's happening to the middle class.
child. I know. We're going to talk about something that's happening to the middle class and another way that the Biden administration is trying to punish middle class families who have
kids. It's a stunning story. We're going to talk about EVs and more lies from the Biden
administration that, you know, these EVs are going to work. So you've seen the weather.
But before we get to that, it's been a big week in sports.
And normally we don't talk about sports.
I'm going to take a pause here.
Rachel is saying,
it's been a big week in sports.
That's a headline.
That's a Fox News alert.
I want to talk about what happened
with the Packer-Dallas game,
what happened on the couch.
But I want to warn everybody,
this is going to take a philosophical turn
that is very interesting that I hadn't thought about, that somebody...
A philosopher.
A philosopher, if you will, by the name of Alex Jones, has thought about regarding this.
And we're going to get to that, because I think this goes from the superficial to the very deep.
So here's what happened.
You know, I don't know anything about sports, Sean.
You know that.
I don't really enjoy it.
I'll be honest.
I don't even like watching my own kids play sports.
I don't like sports.
So if you watch Fox and Friends,
you see Rachel completely zones out
when Will and Pete talk sports.
Yeah.
Sports guests are on.
I just feel glassy-eyed.
She's like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I just like sit there going, okay.
You know what I actually think about?
I think about, did I tell them to empty the dishwasher?
Did Sean take out the meat so I can make dinner tonight?
Like that's what happens to me when they start talking about sports.
But I thought, you know, it was a big game.
Will's been pumping up that the Cowboys were going to win.
He's a massive Cowboy fan.
So take a step back.
This was going to be Rachel's Green Bay Packers are going to play the Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs.
It's going to be in Dallas. The Cowboys are favored to win in this game is on Sunday night.
And so on Sunday morning, well, Rachel knows it's going to be pumping it up on Saturday.
So Saturday night, you and you came up with the idea. You said, you know what,
Rachel, you should get some points.
You should be able to just,
you know it's going to come up tomorrow.
Instead of going glassy-eyed, why don't you
come up with some points?
Call the expert.
Call Bobby Burak.
So Bobby works at Outkick.
He's a great guy. We've become friends.
He was my secret what do you guys
call it's not flag football fantasy football I only said flag football we had a fantasy football
league at Fox and Friends last year and he was like my secret person helping me which I did
pretty well on fantasy football league because of Bobby so I called Bobby and um and then he
texted me a bunch of stuff and it was
too long and crazy. I couldn't understand. It was like reading Chinese. So I said, can you just
simplify it so I can actually deliver this and just kind of wow my, my co-hosts on Sunday.
So here's how it went. Are you looking at the field and going, I can't wait for this game to start? Where you're going to lose to the Packers?
No, I'm ready.
I'm ready.
You know that the Cowboys.
Yeah, there's a Sunday night game.
Rams-Lions.
Rams-Lions tonight.
Corrected.
Live on air.
The Cowboys are just like Pete's Vikings.
In the end, they're just chokers.
And you know that, Will.
You know that. It's like she's been taking lessons from the first
guest of The Will Cain Show, which launches tomorrow.
As you know, The Will Cain Podcast has been three times a week. I'm going
five days a week, four days a week, streaming live at FoxNews.com
and on Fox News' YouTube. There's a list of who's coming up this week.
And as I mentioned, that first guest for Monday is going to be there, rain or shine, to gloat or to have to face me
after a Dallas Cowboys win or loss. He's made his career on it. And I see Rachel is ready to blaze
that same path. Yeah, well, you know, I just I just don't trust Dak. It's just too many
interceptions. Did you look down at your notes before you said that? You looked down at your notes and then turned to me and goes,
she went like this.
She looked at her notepad and goes, I just don't trust Dak.
Too many interceptions.
She did her homework.
She did her homework.
Let me see that note card.
Let me see that note card.
What else you got there?
What can go wrong will go wrong.
What did Sean Duffy ever say?
Oh, it's not.
It's not.
Oh, no.
I went to a higher source.
I'll reveal the source.
But Mike McCarthy struggles with clock management.
All right.
For further analysis, let's bring in our daughter, Evita Duffy Alfonso.
Evita, welcome back to the kitchen table.
Your kitchen.
Your table. Thanks for having me. Welcomeita, welcome back to the kitchen table. Your kitchen. Your table.
Thanks for having me.
Welcome.
It's good to have you.
Okay.
I have my own thoughts of what happened here with, you know, Rachel's conversation on the couch.
And the way that Will was actually responding to her was fascinating.
But you can go first, Rachel.
No, I mean, I said it all there.
Okay.
I don't have much more to say on football.
That's about it.
That's all I got. So, first of all,achel tries to engage will um by making some comments about the
game and will completely like brushes her aside like i'm gonna pitch my podcast right now i don't
want to hear from you rachel he goes through his podcast and his guests that's true that's a good
observation and then you know he is a master marketer well he's very good but i'm trying to
learn from him so bad at it compared to him.
But it was such a fun segment after that because you start throwing these things out.
And Will's got your back.
I don't know.
Pete's got your back.
Like, yeah, that's true.
He does throw interceptions.
Oh, yeah, nope.
Mike McCarthy does have issues with clock management.
And really fun.
But what I found interesting was not just that segment.
But because of that segment, you were then invested in the game.
Right.
And so we take my son to hockey.
JP, my other son, and I rush home to get back for the start of the game.
And Rachel's in the kitchen cooking.
No, she's upstairs on the phone, actually.
She's on the phone talking to her mom.
She's talking to my mom.
It's always the kitchen cooking. No, she's upstairs on the phone, actually. She's on the phone talking to her mom. She's talking to my mom. It's always a good guess.
And when she comes downstairs, she can hear that because it was a great Packer night.
But JP, my son, and I are hooting and hollering and cheering.
And she's like, what's going on?
Are we winning?
Suddenly I cared.
She didn't really want to watch the game.
She just wanted to know if the uh, if the Green Bay Packers
were winning, not because she cared about Green Bay so much as she cared about beating Will.
Um, and then when, uh, when, when there were a couple of interceptions thrown by Dallas,
they were creaming the, and so then it got so exciting. And so what I started doing was
we have a group text, uh, you know, Pete and Will and I and I and I included Bobby in it.
And I started trash talking. Right.
But I don't know all the etiquette, but apparently I cross the line because I started calling them the cowgirls.
And I started like, you know, I started like saying, you know, mean things about the cowboys and and really just
digging it in and at first everyone thought it was funny and then I guess I reached a point where
it stopped being fun and and the weird thing was Will wasn't responding at all and then Pete
started like taking the side of Will and then and then it just got to the point where at some point after I was having so much
fun hazing him
and then I realized
I crossed the line.
Well, that Will was taking this game
very seriously and Rachel was not.
In the hazing,
Will did not think it was
funny. And so much so that Pete had
to step in and go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You don't do this, Rachel, but the man, whoa. You don't do this, Rachel.
But the man is down.
You don't kick a man when he's down.
Leave him alone.
Enough.
You're winning.
But then Bobby came in on the text chain to go, Rachel, don't be bullied by them.
They're trying to turn you into a silent fan.
It was really a lot of fun.
But the thing that was so interesting in the text chain was Will would eventually start commenting.
He was not having fun. He did not take this as a joke this was not fun for him he was also he was going to have
stephen a smith the next day on his show um who who loves hating on the cowboys so now he had me
and stephen a smith the next day to look forward to so it was not going well for him rachel and
stephen a smith together trash talking on sports, Will Kane, all really great. All really great. So Evita's not a big
sports fan herself. However, later in the week, she texts me this. I'm going to read it, Evita.
And I thought it was interesting. So this is, so the first thing that happened was somebody had posted a video of the Buffalo Bills game was later in the week.
And it had already been canceled and now rescheduled.
And the snow was so high.
They basically said there are no assigned seats.
If you're willing to come out here, just take whatever seat you can trudge through the snow.
Because they didn't even want to have to shovel out
everyone's seat. So it's like you just kind of
do your own thing. Take a seat. So they showed
all these diehard, I mean
hardy
men just trouncing
through the snow to get a
seat to watch this game
and it was sort of like,
and then Alex
Jones commented on that. Here's what it said.
This is Alex Jones response to that tweet. Bread and circuses is how the Romans controlled their
population. The average man does not care that his nation is being destroyed because all his
competitive instincts are focused on ritualized combat.
They will freeze their asses off, sitting in the cold,
to feel like they are part of something.
All the while, the real world passes them by.
Western man, you are being conquered.
Wake up.
On another note, look how bad the global warming is.
Okay, so that's Alex Jones.
Evita, you sent it to me.
What's your thoughts on that?
Well, first I'll say that that segment with Will and Pete was the best TV I've ever watched. And Bobby Burbank had an awesome article doing an analysis of it all.
And I said it was probably one of the best articles I've ever read.
It was so fun.
And I'm not a sports fan,
but the trash talk between you and Will and Pete got me excited about the
sports.
And so I kind of had like a little taste of maybe what sports fans feel
about football.
Cause I'm not somebody who cares about it,
but I kind of,
I think we both kind of me living vicariously through you.
And then you yourself kind of got a taste of what it feels like to really care about who wins some stupid football game on a Sunday.
I'm not a sports fan.
But meanwhile, Evita, every Packer fan and Cowboy fan is dying that you just said the same thing I'm thinking,
which is some stupid game on a Sunday.
But anyway, go ahead.
I'm sorry. I own it game on a Sunday. But anyway, go ahead. I'm sorry.
I own it.
I don't like it.
But I also don't like it for the reasons that Alex Jones laid out just there.
I thought that was so apt that imagine if all of the men who put all of their time and
energy into caring about football and what some players who they don't even know or really
care about do on a field for, I don't know,
however long a football game is, once a week.
Imagine if all that time and energy spent on that game was spent caring about what's happening in the world, right?
What's happening to your schools?
What's happening at the border?
What's happening to our economy?
What's happening to our election integrity?
happening to our economy. What's happening to our election integrity? Imagine if the men and the masculine energy that they pour into organized sports went into things that really matter.
I mean, the things that Democrats are doing to us in our country right now, let's just talk about
the border, for instance. I mean, they're kicking American kids out of schools in New York City
to house illegal migrants. They have shut down learning in New York in certain areas to house migrants, to house illegals.
That's not America first.
They don't care about the American kids who are being kicked out.
Imagine if the men in our country cared as much about that as they do about football on Sundays.
I mean, we would have a different country.
It would be a different country.
And I think maybe it's a sign,
maybe it's a wake-up call that this Alex Jones tweet that's gotten a lot of traction
for young men to say, hey, I'm going to start to pour my energy into stuff that really matters
and not take the sign up. I think that they like us to be listening to football. I don't know,
Dad, what are your thoughts? Because I know you you like football more than me so i'm going to disagree
with the both of you okay this is not mutually mutually exclusive you can love football you can
love sports and you can still love your country you can be a man who's like you know go pack go
you know and you can go out in your t-shirt in you degree weather, with your cheese wedge on your head, and express your
masculinity and still care about the country. That has happened for a very long time, that men
have loved sports and men have loved their country. I think maybe to your point, Tevita,
what's happened in recent days is it's not just professional sports.
It's like parents, men, have become consumed with their kids' sports.
Where I remember back in the day, you might get a couple parents that came to a practice every now and again.
And usually they'd come to a game, but not always.
Like now it's religion.
You have to go to practices and games.
And like the parents are so involved in the sports.
They'll miss church to go to do that.
And so they're living, they're living in, you know, in sports through their kids. And so
I think that's been ramped up recently, but I think you're, it's, it's great for men to express
their masculinity. And I love that they do it in sports. Good for them, you know, trudging through
the snow, um, to get a seat get a seat to watch Buffalo play. Great.
But I think the other side of that is we should also care about the direction of this country.
And I think it's going to take it's going to take men and women. But so often, I think men
have taken a backseat. Right. They let the woke women, you know, with pink hats on. I'm not going
to use the name of what the call, but the pink hats on and the little socialist commies kind of control the day.
And I do think men have to step up and be better leaders about where this country needs to go.
Again, they want to support democracy. They want to support elections. They want to support free speech.
They want to support gun ownership. And it's men who have to lead like they do as sports fans.
But we can't say because of football, they're not masculine and leading the country.
I think what she's saying, and Evita, correct me if I'm wrong.
I think what she's saying, they get their masculine, they scratch the masculine itch with football.
They're not using it where it could be a benefit.
And I don't think. That's a little bit of what that's a little bit of what we're saying, but not all of it.
I think what Alex Jones's statement on Twitter is referring to is this moment. So, yeah, you're like
people always cared about their country and love sports. But we're at a crossroads.
And I am not being I am not exaggerating.
I mean, I've you know, listen, we've been in politics a long time.
We've heard people.
This is the most important election.
I am telling you that I believe this moment we're in is truly existential.
is truly existential. That if Donald Trump does not win, or worse, if he is prevented from even from winning because he's not on the ballot, because they have weaponized our government
against him, and they continue as they did last time, but now in a more open way,
But now in a more open way, taking away the right to vote for who you want to vote for, which is the only thing you got.
I mean, you can be poor and that's the one thing you have that's free.
That's your right from God is to vote for whoever you want to vote for.
They are trying to tell you you can't vote for that person.
And they are literally taking him off of the ballot.
They are literally not allowing him to campaign because every two days he has to end up in some courtroom.
You saw him coming out of the courtroom the other day after the Iowa caucus. He had to run back for another trial from some woman who came out of the woodworks who now says that he, you know, who said that he sexually harassed her.
He's got these cases all over the place.
And he looked pretty worn down and the press caught it.
Now, he's not in a state of dementia like Joe Biden, but Donald Trump's schedule, even without court cases, would wear me down.
And I'm like, what, like 30 years younger than him, 20 years younger than him,
30 years younger than him?
So I'm just saying that this is an existential moment.
And we can't be like the Romans at the end of the empire
who are distracted by the circuses that, you know, the emperor is putting on
so they don't pay attention to what's actually happening to them
and their way of life. And I think that's the moment we're in. And I think what's happening,
it's interesting that as we talk about this, at this very moment, the World Economic Forum is
meeting Sean. And you know, they have a different world planned for us. They have a digital prison
that they are trying to put us in. By the way, an interesting thing that I wanted to note
to both of you is Vivek Ramaswamy, who very graciously stepped out of the race after he
didn't have that surprise showing that he told us he was going to have, he stepped out and put
his support behind Donald Trump. And he was asked by Jesse Waters last night, what did you and Trump talk about after, before you went on
stage together? And he said, listen, I don't like to talk politics. I like to talk policy.
I talked to him about digital currency and CBC. I mean, I talked to him about the central bank
digital currency. So I think I have so much hope for what could
happen because donald trump has i think we're all a little more awake and donald trump has a lot more
um people who are on board with him but we he is he going to get over that finish that that
that finish line um boy there's a lot of people trying to stop him you make me think of a couple
uh things which is again sorry for the rant, Democrats who talk about this is a death to democracy.
Republicans, Donald Trump, are a threat to democracy.
And it's the Democrats in the media who are the very people who say, we don't trust democracy.
We don't trust the people to pick the candidate that they want.
So if we feel like the people are going to go in one direction, say Donald Trump, we have to intervene because they're too stupid to know who is right for them.
And I think this only works because of the degradation of the education system in America.
We used to have a really well-educated population, well-informed, you know, whether it was, you know, civics, how our government worked,
you know, why we have the rights that we have. Our people knew that. If you don't teach it,
they don't understand it. And so when these rights go away and they're like,
you know, MSNBC, Rachel Maddow should be the one who's choosing for me. And if Donald Trump's a
threat to democracy, maybe I shouldn't have the right to vote for Donald Trump. And I should be
afraid of all those crazy people in Iowa who, by the way,
grow all the food that you eat that you get in your grocery stores comes from Iowa.
Those hardworking farmers.
That for me is such a rich point that I think more people, I think 50 years ago,
people would be like, this is insane.
We're not going to watch this garbage.
You're a bunch of commies.
They would turn it off.
But today, it works because people aren't well enough informed on the way that the country works.
Kavita?
I want to say about sports that I don't.
I think that actually playing sports is good, and I get that.
And I think being healthy, having a competitive spirit.
that. And I think, you know, get being healthy, having a competitive spirit, but having a competitive spirit for a sport that you're playing and that you're a part of and you're on the field
or you're on the court is different than sitting down and being invested in other people playing a
sport. Like there, there is a, there is a difference and there's an unnecessary energy being poured into watching other people
play sports. Why is Will so attached to what the Cowboys do on a Sunday?
Well, he is a sports analyst. He came out of the sports world. He worked for ESPN.
He's not your average sports fanatic, I would say.
There are people that are even more into it than Will is, and they never worked for, you know, a sports network or cared about sports.
The point is that I think you're right.
We're in a really we're in a really important time in history and American history specifically.
We're at a crossroads where everything that we used to stand for, the principles and values that we had are being torn down.
We saw this during COVID. We're seeing it now with the election integrity issues.
And they're literally taking the primary GOP presidential nominee off the ballot in certain states.
It's going to have to go to the Supreme Court. But the point is that it never should have had to get there.
Having somebody on the ballot should have been, you know, a given. It's part of our it's part of our Democratic Republic.
somebody on the ballot should have been, you know, a given. It's part of our it's part of our Democratic Republic. And and they're changing that. And this is we need all of the masculine
energy on these issues. We need it all there. And what's happened is at the World Economic Forum
right now, they're saying that the greatest threat to to democracies across the world and to any sort
of climate crisis that might happen is mis and disinformation, right? They want to control what we hear and see,
and then ultimately what we think.
And they are scaring people into not standing up
against that threat posed by the World Economic Forum.
So I'm thinking about what happened on January 6th
and the really sincere election integrity issues
that voters brought up,
they demonstrated most of them peacefully to say, hey, you know, the Hunter Biden laptop was
verified by the FBI and they lied to big tech and media companies to, you know, tell the American
people it was Russian disinformation ahead of the election in favor of Joe Biden. That's election
interference on the part of our intelligence agencies. We're going to protest that. This is not tinfoil hat. This is objective truth that
there was interference in the last election. People protested it. And what happened is on
post-January 6th, they punished those who demonstrated severely. They slandered them.
They threw them in prison. They're now political prisoners that are still being persecuted by the
deep state. And so it's easier for me to say, you know what, I'm not going to I'm not going to show up and protest and be involved because I'm afraid.
And it's much more easy to put all my time and energy into a game on Sunday.
But you can't do that. Yeah, it's not the time we can't.
You know, Evita, it's so interesting. The other thing that that Vivek mentioned to Donald Trump in January, he talked about pardoning anyone who
was nonviolent on January 6th. And he also said he wants Julian Assange pardoned, which again,
would be a step forward in, and he's talking about these things on day one. This is a step
forward in free speech. Here's some hope, Because I think all the things that we're talking about
and all the threats that we're facing to our elections, to our speech, to our border,
all of these things are true. I got a lot of hope this week. So I was on Fox Nation doing
some of the analysis as the vote was going on and after the vote. And I'd never been inside of a caucus before, and I'd never seen it. So
there I was, I was here in my house, but I was on Fox Nation where Pete Hegseth was inside of a
caucus, and I got to see how that was done. And they had these little tiny little purple pieces
of paper, and you just write who you vote for, and it went into a paper bag. And then all of your neighbors that you know in your little precinct separated them into piles.
And I came out of that, and I thought, first of all, Donald Trump won 99% of the counties.
He won 98 out of 99, and the one he lost, I think he lost by one vote.
He only lost by one vote.
So, I mean, clearly when there's no election interference and it's just you writing, you know, I said the winner was Donald Trump in paper ballots because I thought it was so amazing.
But the other thing that I thought was really gave me so much hope is think about who Iowans are.
They are sensible.
They're hardy. They went out in that weather and voted. They are sensible. They're hardy.
They went out in that weather and voted.
They're also non-confrontational.
One thing that you know when you meet Midwesterners, when you live with them, they're not itching for a fight.
They're kind of non-confrontational people.
And I think that's why in Iowa, you know, they went for Barack Obama.
They were like, all right, this guy seems kind of nice.
Let's go.
Let's give this a try.
And they were told that they were racist if they voted for Donald Trump.
In this election, they decided they are not going to go Midwest nice.
They're not going to play Midwest nice with their vote.
They said, I don't give a crap what the media or the elites call us.
We're voting for
Donald Trump. I don't care what my Democrat neighbor down the road thinks. I'm voting for
Donald Trump. And it's obvious to me, you couldn't hide your vote. I mean, he got 99 percent. I mean,
like 99 counties or 98 of the 99 counties. So that to me gave me hope that people are getting
over the idea that I'm a racist or they're being afraid. They're just going, I got to save my country.
And they're doing it.
Do you get that sense, too?
On TV, you have left wing media, though, who are like these these people truly are racist.
And who are they?
Where do they come from?
What rock did they crawl out from under that they could they could actually vote for Donald Trump?
How did Donald Trump win all of Iowa?
I mean, they are truly- They had crazy theories on MSNBC, Sean.
Yeah, I want to go back to something that-
Yeah, she's-
Evita was talking about the World Economic Forum and the greatest threat
is misinformation and disinformation. And I want to talk about that because you and I had a cup of
coffee this morning. In over a cup of coffee this morning
and over a cup of coffee, you showed me a video of a woman who had had a chemical abortion.
I'm preparing for a speech that I'm giving this weekend at the Students for Life
conference in Washington, D.C. And so I looked at this TikTok video of a woman who had
a chemical abortion. And by the way, she's not not a pro-lifer this is a woman who's
like not happy with the experience but who agnostic agnostic she's obviously she's and
she's had multiple abortions horrible experience um the baby came out with a beating heart but
my point with that is in her bathroom they started lying to us on abortion it's only a clump of cells, right? It's not a baby. That was a lie. The lie that
the pill doesn't have any medical consequences or reproductive consequences for women. The lies
are so profound, and I'm missing a lot of them, but they're so profound. There's so many. They
do it with impunity, and they do it because it actually works. And then all the while they say, we have to deal with all of the lies on the right, which by the way,
history has treated Republicans or conservatives very well in seeking the truth. And actually,
they were right all along. And by the way, if a conservative had a theory, and they're
wrong, they'll admit it and go you know what i got that
wrong i'm sorry i apologize for that i thought it was this but it was that other we can talk about
ron desantis did that ron said i was wrong to close up um take all the advice from the cdc
and lock down i will never do that again the lab i actually have a lot of respect that was crazy
right no it came from bats in some cave right but it didn't come from a lab in Wuhan. All of these lies. And then they have the audacity to never apologize, to never correct
the record, and just continue on lying and then saying the threat to the country is Republicans
and conservatives. It's so outrageous that we have a government that calls us liars when we're
telling the truth. That truly is a threat to democracy.
It's because no one's held accountable.
I mean, and I was really heartened to hear Senator Rand Paul say, this guy needs to be
behind jails talking about Fauci.
He needs to be behind bars.
He needs to be held accountable.
It's not enough to just, you know, hope he gets, you know hope that he's discredited in conservative circles.
Oh, no. The only thing that will send the message that you cannot fund Frankenstein, dangerous,
pandemic-causing research in China, and then lie to the American people when it leaks out that you
had anything to do with it, and lie and say it came from a wet market. When you funded it in that lab behind our back through laundering the money through your friend's eco-health organization,
and then get away with it and end up on the covers of Vanity Fair and now probably on God
knows how many boards making gazillions more dollars. He was in bed with Farmer the whole time.
This is so gross. And I mean,
Rand Paul's only one senator. I'm sure Ron Johnson's with him. But where are all the
other senators? Why isn't he being charged? He has done more to damage this country than any
little grandma that they're going after in the FBI over January 6th. I agree. Sorry, I'm getting so
heated. No, I think that's right on. I think they what's what's happened. But I'll just say the MSNBC and CNN interviews were, I thought, actually wonderful. I love them. I thought they were great because they exemplified exactly what is wrong with the corporate media and with the elites in our country. They said, oh, why don't, why don't Republicans support Nikki Haley and they do support Donald Trump.
It's not because Nikki Haley is a warmonger because she represents the old
right. And she has nothing to do with the populist Donald Trump,
America first movement. No, no,
it's because Iowa ends are white evangelical racists. That, that was her,
that was her political analysis. And she's, and her job is to, is to say,
you know, let me me let me decipher this let
me help you understand what these voters are thinking it's weaponized ignorance from joy reed
uh on msnbc um to say that and what's what's interesting is that's the reason people support
trump it's because they have demonized the people from iowa and called white evangelical racist
that she doesn't understand why they support Trump is exactly why they do.
You know, if that makes sense. It's like it was so bad to listen to that.
She's like, I don't know. They're all racist. It's like, yeah, this is another thing that's really interesting.
If you ask people, I love that it's not working, though, if it's not working anymore because the Iowans went ahead and did it.
So I'm going to bring up a couple of points.
Go ahead, Evita.
I'm sorry.
If you ask people why they support Trump, generally they don't say it's because he supports us on the border crisis or he's going to fix the economy.
Like you get that sometimes.
What they say generally is he stands up for us because their struggle with the elites in America is his struggle with the elites in America.
And it's very populist.
And you'll see it in history.
The same thing happened with Andrew Jackson.
This is, this is, it was a great interview.
I think it showed a lot about what we're dealing with.
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I want to bring up a couple of points.
So one, MSNBC would not cover Trump's victory speech on Monday night.
OK, and CNN cut away from that speech.
And I think it's interesting because they're afraid to let their viewers actually see Donald Trump and what he has to say.
Because when Donald Trump speaks to people and they hear him, they're like, I know you guys have been demonizing this guy nonstop.
But I kind of like what he's saying.
I kind of agree with him.
They can't have their viewers agreeing with Donald Trump.
So they have to not air the speech.
Now, if you look at conservative media, they're like, I hope Joe Biden
does another interview today because his ideas are so bad, so radical, and he can't communicate.
He's so mentally deficient. They were like, we'll run that all day long. No one's afraid to air what
Joe Biden says because he doesn't resonate. His ideas don't resonate with people. But Donald Trump,
they have to cancel him because they think his words are so powerful and he'll resonate even
with the moderates and some of the late Democrats that watch their networks. I want to make that
point. Also, we're talking about Iowa standing up and saying, we're going to have our voices heard.
We're not going to cower because you call us racist. I think it's interesting. And you also
said, what do we have left? The only thing you have left is your vote.. I think it's interesting. And you also said, what do we
have left? The only thing you have left is your vote. And I think the liberals absolutely
understand that you have your vote. And that's why they had to work to diminish it. The thought
that we would have mail-in ballots, that the state would mail a ballot to someone, we don't know
who filled it out. They don't have to put their driver's license number or any voter ID number on their ballot. Whoever gets the ballot, and you might get multiple ballots, you can just fill it out and you can send it back in.
60 days before an election, as opposed to going, you know what? The most secure way you can have an election to protect every single person's vote is to make sure you have paper ballots.
And we've done this before. When I was in Wausau, there was a few times I was going to be gone
during the election. And so I would go to the clerk of courts and be like, hey, I'm going to
be gone. Could I vote early? And they'd be like, sure. Show me your ID. I'd show it to them and
they'd give me a ballot and I'd fill it out, put it in an envelope and pass it over to them.
It's really easy to vote early if you're not going to be there on election day.
But they've packaged this in you guys making people go on election day and filling out a paper ballot.
That's voter suppression.
Everybody has a right to go vote on election day.
Black, white, brown, gay,anny transit to the uh transvestite
or transgender i don't know whatever thank you you all can go vote but they also try to say you
can't you don't need an id they also said you don't need an id and i saw a video the other day
this guy went into uh uh some african-american neighborhoods, hey, do you have an ID?
And they're all like, yeah.
Do you know how to get an ID?
Of course I know how to get an ID.
I have one.
It's right here.
Everybody interviewed had an ID, knew how to get an ID.
And when he told them, they said, you can't get an ID.
They were like, that's racist.
I'm like, yeah, that is racist.
In Georgia, when they said, this is Jim Crow 2.0, the new voting laws they put in place,
Democrats couldn't find anyone that was disenfranchised with new voter laws.
And by the way, they're really lenient, way too lenient for my liking.
But I bring this up because this election is a threat to all of the work the left has done,
the socialists, the communists, the globalists, for this transition to take place.
the socialists, the communists, the globalists, for this transition to take place. And if they don't win, that could roll back their effort, if not just by four years, but by four decades.
It could kill it in the cradle.
So they can't lose this election, which is why mail-in ballots are so important for them.
Not having voter integrity, not guaranteeing one individual, one vote, which
is why they worked so hard during the pandemic to make sure those rules were set aside and
people could all get a ballot in the mail.
Isn't that what Donald Trump said in his, didn't he say, let's go back to paper ballots?
I don't know, but he said that.
Didn't he say that?
I thought he said that in his victory speech.
He was like, paper ballots, paper ballots. In Wisconsin, we have, we have a requirement to show voter ID unless you're
what's called indefinitely confined, indefinitely confined. So if you're an old person and you're
shut in and you can't, um, you can't make it to the ballot box because you know, you're in a
wheelchair in the nursing home, you're indefinitely confined and you can do a mail-in ballot. Well,
in the liberal counties, what they said is because of COVID, everybody's indefinitely confined and you can do a mail-in ballot. Well, in the liberal counties, what they said is because of COVID,
everybody's indefinitely confined and everybody can get a mail-in ballot.
And it was complete mayhem in Dane County, which is Madison,
in Milwaukee County, up in Green Bay, in 2020.
So this is part of their plan.
And they want to tell us that you're a racist if you want a paper ballot.
Or if you don't want Mark Zuckerberg involved in your election.
Totally. All right. So a lot going on.
Good on Iowa. Kind of went off the hook there.
You kind of went off. It went in. Listen, that's what makes podcasts so great.
We don't have we don't have producers in our ear telling us rap.
That's what they do to us on podcast um so we're just uh kind of letting the conversation go where the
conversation goes so we're going to take the conversation in a direction that sean's not
excited about but i actually think again this is one that seems kind of surfacy um and trivial
and maybe bred in and and circuses you will, but actually has a deeper meaning.
Speaking of bred in circuses.
This is bred in circuses.
Speaking about distractions.
No, but this actually goes deep.
This actually goes deep.
This is really deep, everybody.
Get ready for it.
I'm serious.
This goes deep.
Okay.
So let me lay this out for you.
When Queen Elizabeth was a little girl.
This is the emasculation of America. We're talking really this is our topic right now you're gonna trust me on
trust me on this this goes deep okay I'm ready on it looks surfacy but it goes
deeply just like this other one did with Alex Jones it's just as crazy as Alex Jones. Okay. So, um, when, when Queen Elizabeth
was a little girl, she, she couldn't say her own name, Elizabeth. And she would say,
my name is a little bit, little bit. And so her parents lovingly calls her a little bit.
And then when she, um, ended up marrying, uh, Prince Philip, she, he called her Lilibet.
And so nobody ever called her Lilibet
except her family,
her sort of original little...
Mom and dad.
...inocular family, yep,
and Prince Philip.
Of course, everybody else called her Queen
and Your Highness and all that.
So that's the story.
and all that. So that's the story. When Meghan Markle married Prince Harry,
we all know there was a lot of drama around that. They left England and moved to California where they had their first and then their second child because supposedly, you know,
the royal family was racist and not treating her well and blah, blah, blah.
And all of these interviews had already happened with Oprah, you know, that really damaged the,
you know, really hurt the queen as she was in her twilight years, you know, you know, getting,
you know, getting closer to death and really feeling the weight of the responsibility of the continuation of the monarchy, which Harry and Meghan damaged and threatened in
very personal ways. It's one thing to have the press and a political party attack the monarchy.
It's much more damaging and hurtful when it happens from within your own family.
So all of this is happening.
And then Meghan Markle gets pregnant with her second child, has the second child, which
is a daughter.
And they decide to call the child Lilibet Diana.
Lilibet after this very beloved nickname of the Queen Mother.
And then Diana, obviously obviously after harry's
mother who who was killed so tragically and so early um well it kind of leaked out that um
the queen was not thrilled about that that that's a very personal um but she didn't she didn't say
anything herself but it leaked out somehow that she wasn't
thrilled about the lame the the the the name and so harry and megan decided to double down on that
she gave them her permission um and blessing to use this name and put that out there in the press.
And the Daily Mail refuted it and said that's not true.
And Harry and Meghan never sued the Daily Mail for refuting their claim that indeed it had the Queen's blessing.
Then the Queen passes on.
There's a new book coming out about King Charles,
and there are little bits leaking out about the book to sort of promote the book. And one of the
things that is leaked out in this, many say, very well-researched book is that indeed the queen
was upset, and that when she found out that they had done it and then lied and said that they had
her blessing she said to you know her her closest um people that she's around that help her that
she you know the the people who serve the queen have served her you know they're like family to
them because they've been with her forever and she said to them um you know i don't own any of
this you know all these beautiful things that you see in Buckingham Palace, Evita and Sean.
You know, the queen gets to enjoy this life of luxury, but she doesn't actually own it.
It belongs to England.
It belongs to the nation.
And so she says, you know, I own.
From the furniture to the paintings.
Exactly.
They're there.
She gets to enjoy it.
She gets to live in it.
But it's not actually hers.
And so she said, you know, I don't own anything.
And now they've even taken my name.
I don't own anything.
The only thing I own is my name.
The only thing is my, I'm sorry.
I don't own anything.
The only thing I own is my name.
And now they've taken that too.
Okay.
They've now they've taken that.
And that came out in the book.
And so it's very sad.
No one's refuting it now. Even Harry and Meghan are not refuting it they're sort of you know
stewing over at Montecito sheepishly silent sheepishly silent and I think it
just brings up the the the you know the the main topic here which is why would
King Charles who they believe has a hand in this
book um why would he do this and i think it's because the queen felt really angry about the
name but she has been her her strategy in dealing with harry and megan has been to appease them to
not not raise their ire you know some people say people say, not inflame them, not give them more reason to get upset
and sort of, maybe some would say, enable.
Charles tried that
and now he's at the point
that he's like, enough.
And I think he let this out
because I think we're reaching the point
where he's like,
I'm not going to let these two get any closer.
I am going to
slash their tires before they, with impunity, slash ours again. And the reason I say this gets
deep is that ultimately, while this is a royal family, at the heart, this is a family. In every
family, whether in their nuclear family or extended family, they deal with certain characters in the family who aren't loyal,
who always have a chip on their shoulder, who always have something to complain about,
who always want to go around and publicly discredit other members of the family in order to make themselves look better
or feel better about who they are or how they act or, or their state in life.
What do you guys think about this? Am I am I reading too deep here? Evita?
When I first heard the story, I kind of felt bad for for the little granddaughter, because it's
like, you know, she was named after her grandmother, her mom and her grandmother, you know,
most grandmas would be really honored that their grandchild was named after them. and her grandmother you know most grandmas would be really honored
that their grandchild was named after them and it would be something that's that's kind of sweet and
a nice little homage to her and so do i think that the queen is mad at the little granddaughter that
she's never really met because she died or she died early on when she was born and also that
you know she lives in california her whole life No, I think I think it just speaks to how broken down that relationship was.
Queen Elizabeth, like you said, was very pacifying toward Harry and Meghan.
And she never disparaged them publicly and was actually never really disparaged anyone publicly.
She was she was a real stateswoman. And Harry and Meghan, likewise, have not been able to demonize the queen
because she's beloved by everyone. Donald Trump loves her. Michelle and Barack Obama love her.
They couldn't really demonize the queen in the same way they were able to demonize maybe Prince
William or King Charles. and so they so this
is a real blow to the facade that harry and megan have had that they are actually very cordial with
the queen and she's supportive of them it's actually you know what actually the queen is
is a person she's not just a stateswoman and she was really hurt by the way that harry and megan
have have gone nuclear on their family and attacked your family. And I like that
you brought up, Mom, that they are a royal family, but they are also just a family. And it's not
normal for people to go nuclear and to attack and disparage family members in very personal,
public ways and still remain cordial with them. And even though in her life she kept up this facade of appeasement,
it's now come out afterward that it really hurt her.
And I hope that Harry and Meghan take that to heart and realize,
you know what, actually, we had a really negative impact on the queen,
so much so that she resented that we used our name for our daughter.
I think they should face it.
She didn't mind that they used Elizabeth.
for our daughter. I think they should face you. I think she didn't mind that they used
Elizabeth. I think people say if she would have
it would have honored the
queen to have named her
Elizabeth. But
Lilibet was too
personal and
that was her little thing
and it was not appropriate.
So can I get in here?
I'm just going to ask you for some wisdom
and... What was that last thing i'm sorry sean i know you
want to say but we don't hear what she i just said i think it was too personal because it was
harry and megan i'm not sure she would have had the same reaction okay if it had been
kate and william kate and william interesting or maybe if that asked getting permission yeah
kate and william would never have done it without asking would have been you know let's talk about
it could have been an honor.
But you don't ask and you just do it.
That's a problem.
But a couple thoughts.
You told me the story this morning over coffee, Rachel.
And I really don't care about the royal family much.
If you listen to our podcast, you know that.
And it actually hit me.
I was like, that's a really sad story that I don't own.
And again, she's got a very privileged life.
She's a queen.
But none of this is mine, right?
I don't own anything in the world.
But the only thing I have is my name.
And they took my name.
It's one thing to give the name to someone, right?
If you go, I'm going to give this name that my husband calls me, that my mom and dad call me.
And someone asked me in the family lineage that they were going to take it, and I gave it to them, that's different than them stealing it from her.
And that struck me as a very human story, I think, which hit me.
I was drinking my coffee, and I almost got a little tear in my eye.
I'm like, that's really sad.
But the other point I want to make is you're talking about families, right?
And they are a family to both of your points.
But no family is the royal family, right?
So if you have someone in your family that's like, you know, my sister's a jerk and my brother's an ass.
And, you know, I hate my parents.
Whatever the fight is, no one really cares, right?
It's an internal conflict.
Maybe some aunts and uncles and nieces and nephews might care,
but no one gives a darn about the squabbles that you have in your family.
Because they have their own squabbles.
So you can slash someone in your family's tires,
and everyone's like, I don't even want to hear it.
I don't even care.
I don't even know who these people are.
I don't care about that.
This is different because everybody cares, right?
And so if you want to slash someone's tires, if you want to knife them and you do it, it's going to blast across all of these newspapers and rags and gossip columns, and it becomes far more painful.
and rags and gossip columns, and it becomes far more painful.
And I think that, so yes, this is a family experience,
but the political, but the media's interest in this story makes the wounds that are created in the disloyalty in the family
that much deeper, that much greater, and I think that much harder to heal.
I think that the
the other question is why did harry do this and i've seen some little jackass well i've seen a
jerk no no well i've seen some analysis in the british press and in the british press
some of them said well this is a way of disrespecting the queen by calling the child
lilliput not asking for permission it's not the formal word. Like I said, I think it would have been a bigger honor to go, hey, grandma, I love you. I'm going to miss you. I want my daughter
to live on through you. Can I name her Elizabeth? And I bet the queen would have been honored.
Instead, they took this name Lilibet. And I have a theory on this. And I believe that this was not Harry's idea.
I believe this was Meghan's idea all the way.
Meghan has a chip on her shoulder.
Now, she thinks very much of herself.
She thinks she's beautiful.
She thinks she's a lot more a better actress than she is.
She thinks she was a lot more famous when she met Harry than she actually was.
There's stories that she sort of
you know acted like and harry wrote in his book and i'm sure this was megan again you know creating
this narrative that like kate and william were you know starstruck when they met her which would
miss bs i mean i never even watched suits like it's like this d d list show show on flipping some you know what was it on it was on
this network i don't even know what network it was it's gotten a resurgence now that she was the
princess but what made her famous um truly you know an a-lister announced that's even questionable
was mary harry so there's that But what people who are deeply insecure and anybody would
be insecure, I mean, you know, you could be gorgeous and even from a rich American family
and not from a working, you know, a working class family like she came from and be intimidated by
the royals because that's a whole other stratosphere of like, you know, family history
and sort of global status.
I mean, there's a lot of reasons to be intimidated.
But Meghan could never let that show.
And so her way of dealing with feeling inadequate,
and I'm not saying that she should have felt inadequate.
These are just human beings.
But I think she felt inadequate.
And the way she tried to do that was to act like this really wasn't that big of a deal.
So when she met Princess Kate for the first time, for example, she, you know, Princess
Kate came to the cottage where Harry and Meghan were living or to where they were, no, to
her apartment where she was living.
And Meghan, you know, was wearing ripped jeans and she was barefoot.
Like, you know, it's no big deal.
Like, you know, the princess is coming.
I'm just, you know, I'm just me.
Like, you know, normal people would go, oh, my gosh, Princess Kate's coming over.
I'm going to meet her for the first time.
My hopefully soon-to-be sister-in-law.
I'm going to put my best foot forward.
I'm going to look.
No, I'm going to make Kate uncomfortable because probably showing up in jeans
and barefoot was a little bit like, whoa.
Hold on a second.
This is not even royal.
This is where anyone that shows up to
meet their potential in-laws i'm like i'm gonna look nice thank you dress up this is her this is
her style doing things so let me just quick go back to a little bit i think she chose a little
bit because she thought that was like this formal you know anglo-saxon, you know, Elizabeth name. I'm so casual and like L.A. cool.
I just want a little bit.
That's my theory on it.
And I think it hurt the queen because it was actually very personal to her.
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my theory for not why megan did it but why the queen resented it is that there's been a lot of
elizabeth's in british royal history right and famous like queen elizabeth the first was like
one of the most famous royals in all of brit history. But Lilibet is Queen Elizabeth II, Queen Elizabeth, the one that we all know, right?
And she represented the preservation of tradition in Britain, of the royal family in Britain in a time of modernism, actually a postmodernism.
Lilibet, now this this granddaughter a little bit
is being raised by the antithesis of that right harry and megan have rejected all of those
traditions they've rejected everything that the queen stood for she's actually they her parents
have disparaged the royal family so much that they've now been you know called racist and and
colonialists and the worst things that you could call the royal family,
Harry and Meghan have done.
And so Lilibet's legacy and what she stands for
is sort of being thwarted
because it's represented now by,
and the name is carried on now,
by a girl whose family is actively tearing down
everything that the queen has spent her entire life preserving and protecting.
That's, I think, why the queen was so especially resentful of young Lilibet taking her name.
And probably I don't think would have been had it been Princess Charlotte being called Lilibet instead, which is the daughter of William and Kate.
So how dare you people who are trying to tear me down take my
name and my most personal iteration of my name um i i i would know yeah i i think that's a really
great assessment as well tear down my life's work and then steal my name in the process
yeah which leads me to the point that harry's a punk right um and he should i mean again he came to this this this uh this marriage as a royal
that he doesn't stand up and i think i think it probably is harry's week in the marriage yeah
he doesn't um exert himself and listen it's as as a man it's okay to give up a lot of territory
and us men we do that we give up territory all the time. We're used to it.
It's coming back to me. It was in Reagan-Merkel.
But there's some things that you just say no to. And you say, I'm sorry, we're not going to do
that. Or if you want to do that, we're going to go talk to grandma. We're going to go see her and
go, can we take this name? And even the internal squabbling inside the family, at some point you have to go, you know what, I get it.
But how do we repair this?
How do we remedy the rift we have in the family?
Because this is important to me.
It's not your family, but it is my family.
And we're dysfunctional.
We have problems.
But they're the only family that I will have.
And so be a man, Harry.
Don't be a punk.
And he hasn't been a man.
He's been, you know, by those little ponytail drug around by Meghan Markle. You so be a man, Harry. Don't be a punk. And he hasn't been a man. He's been,
you know, by those little ponytail drug around. You bring up a good point. They didn't ask the
queen if they could name the child a little bit because they knew she would say no. She would say
maybe Elizabeth, but not a little bit. That's interesting. And so they didn't ask because
they knew she would say no. Instead, they did it anyway. And then when they got pushed back in the press for it and through leaks from Buckingham Palace,
they knew that the queen would not put out a statement and further inflame them to deny what they were putting out there.
And so she just let it be.
And it really speaks a lot to the self-restraint, to the stiff upper lip that that queen had.
That, like you said, Sean, this boy has been attacking and Meghan as well.
But she still was trying to preserve the dignity of the office, the dignity of the monarchy, and hold the family together.
I don't think that King Charles has the same restraint or grace or sort of grandmotherly heart.
I think the other part that we're missing is that she did have a special place for Harry in her heart.
She loved Harry.
And I think the things he did hurt her all the more because of that.
Can I jump in? Do you have something to say, Vitor? Can I jump in here?
I can always talk crap about King Charles, but you go ahead, Dad.
I raised that girl right, Sean.
As did I, which is going to go to my next point. So again, we started this conversation
off about, you know, men trudging through the snow to see a football game and being distracted.
And you mentioned this as we started this topic of circuses and bread.
And again, we're on our kitchen table.
We talk about all kinds of things, but this is important as well.
What is instructive?
What do we learn from this family this is good gossip right it's good
to philosophize about it might be delicious gossip but this is worse than men trudging to the snow
and watching a football game it really is and i agree because you're hurting your own family
well no it's we're hurting america by talking about it, I think, is my point.
No, no, no.
No, this conversation.
No, this conversation is about families.
How should a family, forget that they're royal, how should a family handle this situation?
Evita.
No, wait, because you cannot say a family can have a conversation and a resolution because any other family is one scenario.
This is a completely different scenario.
And so,
no,
I think ultimately,
you listen,
you could be in a small,
this is the part I disagreed with your analysis.
You could be in a small town.
You're not the Royal family,
but if you have a relative who's going off and talking about your family,
it's hurtful and the coffee shop
and it embarrassed yes it's terrible it's a terrible situation everyone's dealt with this
how do you deal with that family member that you love um who's maybe married somebody who's really
mean or who and has taken them off on a bad course or whatever how do you deal with these family
situations that's what i think is ultimately interesting in this it yes it brings it to another level of it because
they're the royal family but ultimately it is a family but there's no less but there's no lesson
here because they haven't been able to navigate it no i know but how could they have did the queen
handle it right yeah okay how is charles gonna handle it all right go Yeah, okay. How is Charles going to handle it? All right, go, Evita. One of the articles I'm most proud of writing at The Federalist, because it was so fun to do,
was I believe it was five lessons that families can learn from Harry and Meghan's Royal Rift.
I love that article.
Say the title again, because people can go back to it.
I believe it was five lessons that families can take away from Harry and Meghan's Royal Rift.
I believe that was what
it was. But basically, I mean, there's a lot of problems in that family that's parallel than
everyone's families. I mean, why is Harry so vindictive and angry and lost in his life?
His parents didn't prioritize their marriage and had a really volatile relationship and got
divorced and the kids were involved.
People experience that all the time. Families get divorced. There's volatility. There's
not putting your marriage ahead of other things in your life. In a family,
the relationship of the mom and dad should always come first. That's something that Harry didn't
have. Or, you know, raising your kids on your own. That's something that Queen Elizabeth didn't have,
which made her a really cold mom herself. I mean, there are generational issues in that family that we can learn from and say, let's not and their culture. But I also think that there's a new there's a new strain in the
royal family. Now there's a new there's a new slant to it with King Charles, who's aligned
himself with the World Economic Forum. He introduced a great reset. He's pushing for
policies that are actively destroying regular citizens and their livelihoods um and and just their ability it's
i mean it's going to be modern serfdom and the king of england is not a figurehead anymore he's
actually pushing for that against the will of his people britains are protesting and rioting in the
streets over what the world economic forum uh and other globalist entities are doing to them and
king charles is aligned with those globalist entities so well i like that the queen wanted
to preserve tradition if the british people said we're going to rise up and and overthrow king charles because of what he's
he's he's doing to our nation and our people right now i would i would support that i'd say let's go
but do i want to thwart the institution because of because of what harry and megan think no i don't
think those are good reasons the it's very it's a very it's very insightful avida it's very
insightful what you're saying that the king of eng England is reintroducing feudalism through the vehicle of climate change into America, modern-day feudalism.
There's no question that that's what the WEF, the World Economic Forum, he is their poster child.
There's probably no public figure more associated with the World Economic Forum than King Charles himself. He has
been a longtime member, longtime proponent of it. And yet, here's the irony of all of this.
His hard stance, which is very different from the Queen's, on Harry and Meghan is wildly popular. It's actually probably the only reason
his poll numbers in England are above water
is because the English people are united on one thing.
They hate Harry and Meghan.
They hate them viscerally.
And if the king has his polls on anything,
it's on that.
The British tabloids hate them.
The British people hate them.
Liberals and conservatives are united.
I have met, even at Fox News, there's not one.
We have multiple Brits who traverse through our Fox circles family, our Fox family.
All of them love, respect the queen.
All of them 100% hate Harry and Meghan.
So the king is, I think, his hatred and his hardline stance on Harry and Meghan
is sort of the Trojan horse that he's hiding in.
The true thing is that he is pushing, as you said, a globalist agenda
that's also impacting us here. And he's ushering in a new feudal order. The new global order is
actually a new feudal order where aristocrats like Charles and Bill Gates will be in charge.
So maybe this is actually the true point. So the royal family really is the circus.
And they are the distraction for the real pain that Charles is trying to inflict on his people
and on the world with this climate change green agenda.
And they're paying attention to Harry and Meghan and King Charles and Buckingham Palace
as opposed to going, hey, this guy is trying to take away our livelihood, take away our freedom.
And he calls himself a king. I think that I think that's a better example of all of this.
Listen, I think this has been a fascinating conversation. We had a couple other things planned, but we're gonna have to move them because we just went so deep.
So deep so far on these two subjects.
Listen, this has been a super fun conversation, Evita.
Thanks for bringing your insight.
Always great stuff from you.
We'll have you back again next week to dig into some more cultural topics.
But boy, what a great conversation.
Yeah, Evita, thank you so much.
We appreciate it.
Stay warm in northern Wisconsin.
It's cold. Good chatting with you too, Rachel, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Stay warm in northern Wisconsin. It's cold.
Good chatting with you too, Rachel, at the kitchen table.
We do coffee in the morning and a little conversation in the podcast at the kitchen table.
Before we go, can I just tip a hat one more time to Iowa?
We call that a point of personal privilege.
Yes.
Yeah, a point of personal privilege.
Is that what they say in the House of Representatives? I need to learn all these.
Sometimes we'll have family meetings and Sean
will go with the lady of Wisconsin, the gentle lady from wherever, from the gentle lady from
Wisconsin. It's your turn to speak. So, yeah, the points where I just want to say I have become a
little bit cynical because of everything that is being done to undermine our vote in America.
The last election left me depressed about, you know, election integrity in America, all
the things that are being done to make sure we can't vote, including taking Donald Trump
off the ballot.
And yet in Iowa this past week, I have so much respect for how seriously these people
took it, how they went out in that disgusting weather to vote.
And they voted with their hearts and discarding what other people think of them, whether it's
Joy Reid or their Democrat neighbors. They voted what they thought would save America.
And I'm looking forward to New Hampshire. That point of personal privilege was used well.
Thank you.
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