From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Every Day Is Valentine's Day: Why Your Love Life Should Be Top Priority

Episode Date: February 17, 2023

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down to reflect on the importance of Valentine's Day, and how having a great love life is the first step in living a fulfilled life.  Later, they discuss the keys... to a long marriage, how arguments in a relationship are meant to form stronger bonds between spouses, and Sean reads a love poem that he wrote using the AI software, ChatGPT. Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:55 She's going through a divorce. But actually, therapists have said that when a married couple does not celebrate Valentine's Day, that's one of the first predictors that there's a problem. And so I kind of like Valentine's Day. No, we actually planned a really nice Valentine's Day. And then what happened? So we were going to go, because I had to work last night doing the bottom line Fox business.
Starting point is 00:01:21 So Rachel was going to be a guest for Valentine's Day. Yeah. And we were going to go to dinner after. However, the morning of Valentine's Day, yesterday morning, 3 o'clock in the morning, our 6-year-old came in and was sick and started throwing up. And so he had to stay home from school,
Starting point is 00:01:35 which means you couldn't come in, which means we didn't go to dinner. But we put the kids to bed when I got home and we had a... We were going to order sushi. That went down the wayside. We didn't end up doing that. So anyway, we ended up... For a number of reasons. For a number of reasons. But long story short, we got a drink. We bought some popcorn. We watched a movie. We hung out. It was nice. Yeah. They were just a little tired this morning.
Starting point is 00:02:01 We are a little tired this morning but um it's an interesting topic because uh just the idea of marriage and commitment is a controversial topic right now in society so if you look on tiktok there's the that's these trending videos they're called uh the the videos are dinks do you know what a dink is, Sean? I did read it. They're dual income, no kids people. Yes. So they are actually married, but with no kids and sort of showing off this amazing lifestyle that they have. There's also the idea of, you know, not getting married at all, having no kids. That's sort of we've talked about that many times in in our on our podcast about people who say that's the way to be happy. Have no kids. You know, think about the environment.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Spend the money on yourself. Don't get married, which is when everyone whenever Rachel finds a woman to talk to. She's like, that is the worst way to live your life. And I've been proven right because there are studies and they've shown for a long time, first of all, that like Republican women are much happier than Democrat women, liberal women, liberal women, that conservative men are happier than liberal men. Actually, the least happy group are liberal men. That's always been. But now this is liberal women. But no, but now the study you're looking at right now, Sean, is about marriage. So in general, happy or not happy or conservative, conservative women are the happiest.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Liberal men are the least happy. But now there's these studies that are showing where they look at Republicans who are married and Democrats who are married, and they say 48%, for example, of Republican men, that would be you, Sean, are completely satisfied with their marriage. I'm in that 48%. Yep. Only 36% of men are Democrat men. Also, conservative women are more than two times happier than liberal women. Now, conservative men are happier than conservative women, right?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yes. But it's interesting. And you wonder, they speculate about why. Well, you go there. You can tell us why. Well, according to this study, they think it's about gender roles, that Republican conservatives have more traditional gender roles. So there's less fighting and there's a better natural understanding about what our
Starting point is 00:04:33 roles are. So when there's a, you know, a noise outside in the middle of the night, we're not debating about who's going out when there's trash to be thrown out. It's your job. Um, and I love to cook. I love to keep the house neat. I kind of take charge of that. That is sort of the idea of, of this.
Starting point is 00:04:55 That's what they, they say in this study. Well, I think it's, do you think that's true to have two men or don't, I'm sorry to have a man and a woman who both want to be men wouldn't work very well. Or two women that both want to be men or both women wouldn't work well. You actually, if you look at over the course of thousands of years, we've developed into these roles and it's seemed to work for a really long time. And now we have liberals who say, we're going to throw away all of this history, all
Starting point is 00:05:20 this tradition, and we're going to remake these gender roles. And what they find is they're not happy. But I think something else is at play. When you talk about the dinks, what's the- The dinks are the dual income, no kids. By the way, their videos are so fun. I personally, I would like their lifestyle for like five minutes and then I would be so bored. Like they show themselves- Two weeks, two weeks would be great. Yeah, maybe like when we go on vacation for like a week. So then I would be so bored. Like they show themselves. Two weeks, two weeks would be great. Yeah, maybe like for a vacation. Like when we go on vacation for like a week. So they get up on a Saturday morning. They lay in bed.
Starting point is 00:05:51 They have coffee. They make matcha lattes. Then they read a little more. Then they get up. Then they get ready, and maybe they go to the farmer's market. Then they come back, and they go out to dinner. It all sounds really nice and quiet, but it also seems really boring to me. Maybe I'm just used to a lot of chaos.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Because at the end of life, if you ask people and look at studies, they'll say, you know, I'm so glad I had that matcha. I went to the farmer's market. My life was so full. Everyone says, of course, that's not the case. Your family makes you happy. Your relationship with your wife and your kids and your own parents, that's what brings joy and happiness to someone's life, giving to others, helping other people out gives people joy. And what you find in today's culture is so many people are focused on themselves. Right. And how much money can I make? And by the way, we know there's no correlation between money and happiness. Money does not make you happy. Some of the most unhappy people I've met have a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So as you focus on trying to make money, you're focusing on something that won't give you joy and happiness and fulfillment in your life. And I think there's another thing that wasn't mentioned here, Rachel. On average, conservative or Republican married couples probably are people more of faith. And liberals are not, and Democrats, speaking generally, probably as a percentage are less likely to be faithful people or church-going individuals. And again, if you look at family and faith and giving and sharing in community, those are the things that make people fulfilled in their life, give them a rich life. And that goes back a long time. Now, by the way, if you're stuck in the kitchen, if you're stuck working 16 hours a day, seven days a week,
Starting point is 00:07:38 there's going to be some problems with happiness. You've got some balance in your life. But if you can- If you force me to cook, I would not enjoy cooking. There's no forcing going on here. Rachel likes to cook. No, I love to cook. I like to be in my house. I mean, generally, I mean, even the Valentine's debate was, I mean, you did make reservations at a really nice restaurant that I liked in the city, and I was really excited to go. But generally, Sean's like, should we go out to dinner? And I'm like, let's just stay home.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Because that's kind of, I'm a homebody and I don't mind that. We thought we could have issues with Valentine's Day. So we actually went out on Saturday night together as well to go, let's do a preemptive. We did. We did a pre-Valentine's dinner on Saturday night. We went really early because I get up at three in the morning on Sunday for work. So we went out at like five, like old people, right? Nursing homes. And yeah, but it was fun. We went out and thank God we went out on Saturday because our life is so
Starting point is 00:08:31 unpredictable. Unlike the dinks who can just hang out happens. And so our when our son, you know, woke up puking at, you know, three in the morning, you know, there goes Valentine's Day. And you know, just to go back to this point, when, when you talk about, Oh, for five minutes, I'd like to live the dink life, but in a week, so if we, if we go away for, we've gone a couple of times over the last couple of years away for like five days together. And at the end of five or six days, we're like, we want to go home. We want to see our kids. We want to be with our family. Except for the time that we went to St. Thomas. Do you remember? And we kept extending our vacation. I was like, I don't want to go home for like a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I couldn't get her to go on vacation. Then she went and she didn't want to come back. I didn't want to go. I was like, we can't, the kids, the kids, we can't. And then we went on vacation and then we kept, I was like, let's just stay one more day and see if we can just make it happen one more day. And we called and had the sitter stay one more day. see if we can just make it happen one more day. And we called and had the sitter say one more day. And then we're like, let's just say one more day. And then after the second day, Sean's like, listen, that's it. We got to go home. But it is true. But it is true. We do end up missing the kids by the end. We do. And I look at, sometimes it's crazy. We've had conversations about, we have all these kids around us. And if we're honest,
Starting point is 00:09:42 kids are a lot of work. They're a lot of fun, but it takes, there's a lot, we still are in diapers. We're not in diapers, but our kids. But we will be, and they will help. We will be one day. We've had diapers in our life since, you know, nine months after we were married. Yeah. Until today. We haven't stopped almost 24 years, 23 years of diapers.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Never been out of them. And you know what? Do I mind that? Yeah, it's a little... Listen. When we went on vacation without Valentina, that was really nice with all the other kids and we left Valentina with my mom.
Starting point is 00:10:17 But it is... I mean, listen, it's more work, but I wouldn't trade one second for it. So a lot of times people ask me, what is the secret? Because I posted yesterday a picture from our last family vacation, and one of our kids took a picture of us hanging out in the water, and we were kissing. And I posted it, and I had just so many comments and people saying,
Starting point is 00:10:41 like, what is, you know, you guys have been married. We're going on what? Almost 24 years. Almost 24 years and a couple months. It'll be 24 years. Nine kids. We still like hanging out together. You know, what's, what is the secret? And so I'm going to pose that question to you, Sean. So you're putting that on me. You're putting that evil on me, Ricky Bobby. Okay. So listen, I, we're going to get to your, we're going to get to your love, love poem after that. So I, I, I look we're going to get to your love poem after that. So I look at us and I go, I think if, and I say this a lot, if you think marriage is always bliss
Starting point is 00:11:12 and you marry someone and it's just going to be perfect, it's not. We'll fight on occasion once in a while. And that's normal. And I've said this a lot, but anything that is fulfilling and meaningful takes work. Nothing comes easy. And if you go through the work of a marriage and you can navigate your differences, and I think we've done it. At the start of our marriage, we did a good job of setting up rules of how we're going to fight and how we're going to argue and how we're going to disagree. And we usually will stick to those rules.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Sometimes we'll break them. And then after we're like, you broke the rules of argument. You can't do that. But I think being respectful in fights is a key. You can't take back some of the stuff you say. And that's one of the hard parts. That's hard. And I think there's also, if you don't work through the issues that you have in your marriage, you build up resentment. And that feeling of that fight, though, the moment might pass, it still sits in you because you never resolved it. And then something small can happen in a disagreement and it can be explosive because it's not just that fight. It's not just that argument. It's all of these other things that were never resolved. And they build on each other.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And then people start to not like each other. And so if you can get through your disagreements and navigate them and come to peace or resolution on them, then the next fight you have, you're not fighting over the last fight or the last year of fights or the last five years of fights. You're just fighting about that fight because you resolve the other ones I think that's really key and as my mom was my mom's a big liberal and I love her to death and there's a lot of great things I got from Carol my mom but she she always talked about talking about the way I feel right this is what I feel I feel like you're saying this to me as opposed to you are saying, I'm not putting my belief on Rachel.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I'm telling her the way she makes me feel because I only know how I feel, not how you feel. And you can't argue against what I'm telling you, what you're doing and how you're feeling towards me. I only know how I feel. Does that make sense? So first of all, let me just break it down. Let me break down what I think you're saying. Let me go back because I think what... Rachel explains what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:13:29 No, no, no. No, no, no, not at all. I think the key of what you're saying is that communication is important. And so if you're dating someone who's not a good communicator, you better learn to make him or her into a better communicator because the relationship is not, is the most important thing is communication. Everything that you said up until now was about communication and talking through things. You can't negotiate, you can't come to an understanding unless you're actually communicating about it. So I think that's, that's the most important. And I think what you're saying, these skill sets that you learned, I think, from your mom and from your family history, right? In your family, there was a point in his family when they were growing up where he had a brother who had a substance abuse problem.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And it ended up being that the whole family ended up in therapy. I was too little. I didn't go. But he got all the skill sets of that, which means, for example, like what you were saying. If you are mad at me about something I'm doing, you don't say, you're doing this. You said, what you're doing makes me feel like this, or I feel like you're saying this. And that brings the temperature down and allows me some space to see what your point of view is, but maybe explain my point of view. I think that's all really important.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I know I didn't come with all of those skill sets. I learned a lot through Sean, but here's what I did bring. And I'm going to give you an example from J-Lo and Ben Affleck to explain what I did bring to the table. I didn't bring all the therapy to the table and all the great things that you can learn from that. But there's this, you know, they had the, was it the Grammys that was the other day? And there was a moment where Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez, you know this because I sent you the clip of it.
Starting point is 00:15:14 You told me about it. I never watched it. J-Lo is saying something to Ben Affleck, and it looks like she's being really stern. And so anyway, the tabloids exploded, right? And they were like, you know, their marriage is on the rocks. They're fighting in the middle of the Grammys. And I looked at that and I was like, no, that's a Hispanic woman. She's just talking about something like this, like the exact way I'm doing it right now. And if, if a Latino woman is mad,
Starting point is 00:15:46 you know, it exactly, you know, it you're, there's no speculation. There's no debate. And so what I think I brought to the table is something very cultural, but I think very healthy. And you see it in Hispanic cultures, you see it in Italian cultures. And that is that, and it's not always the greatest thing, but it is a good thing, which is we say exactly what we think. And if I'm mad, you're going to know I'm mad. And we're going to talk about it because I'm not going to, you know, you know, they say still, still waters run deep. I am not a still water. If I'm upset, everyone knows why everyone knows I'm upset.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And then we can talk about it. It's kind of a raging river. I am a raging river. And you can't talk about things and get to this understanding that you're talking about, which is so important for marriage. If you keep tucking your feelings down and you don't say what's bothering you. I'm not saying that you should be a raging bitch and explode on everything. But you've got to say what you think.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And I think that's really important. Well, to be honest with yourself. I'm angry about something. And be honest with the other person. And I want to talk about it. So we always say, let's not sweep it under the rug. Right? So if you have a fight, you have an issue.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Or be an ostrich and stick your head in the ground. Right. We've learned that that never works well for us. I do think that there are certain traps that you can fall into in marriage. There are certain ways out of those traps. And if you care about a marriage and your family and the commitment, you can listen to people, you can read about it and go, there's ways that we can work together to get through these differences. And there will be, and you might be married for 24 or 84 years together, and it's a pretty beautiful institution. And can I say this too? Here's the other part. So we spend a lot of time in our lives talking about a lot of stuff, like our work. People plan
Starting point is 00:17:42 out their careers and they prepare for things that they have to do at work. So my point is, we spend actually a lot of time talking about our marriage and our family. We actually do. And it's a sign that you should not, it's not a sign that things aren't going well that you talk about. It's a sign that you care about it. It's important. If our marriage is not going well, everything in this house is not going well. It's sort of like, it's just, it's not going to go well. It's like, mama's not happy. That's true. That is true. If we're not getting along, if we're not doing well, if we're not building this marriage and making it strong, the entire outfit falls apart. Everything falls apart.
Starting point is 00:18:30 So don't feel bad spending time sitting on the couch, spending an hour talking about whatever happened. I mean, I'm not saying you should fight, but you should talk about it and get to some resolution. Wait right there. We're going to have more of that conversation next. The score bet app here with trusted stats and real-time sports news. Yeah. Hey, who should I take in the Boston game? Well, statistically speaking.
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Starting point is 00:19:27 Yeah, wonderful. But they do date night every, I think, once a week. Easier for them because their kids are older. Older. So we've tried to do more of that and it's hard for us to get away. And so it brings me to another point that we talk about our schedules a lot. Yeah, we do. So you have the weekend Fox & Friends, but Fox & Friends has you do a number of things oftentimes throughout the week. Yeah, I'm leaving tonight to go to Florida ahead of the Daytona NASCAR race. What are you going to do when you're down there? So I'm going early. I should just be there for Friday to do diners and then the weekend.
Starting point is 00:20:03 But I'm going early because something I didn't want to do. But Sean was like, you're not allowed to say no to this. You can't turn this down. Go ahead. She's going to fly with the Thunderbirds. I am. So I'm like, what an amazing experience. Listen, who gets to fly with the Thunderbirds?
Starting point is 00:20:16 You got to fly with. I did. I was a congressman, but you don't get these opportunities. So I'm like, you have to do it. She's going to get sick. She's probably going to pass out. They're going to have it on video, and it's going to be great. But you take those opportunities. So I'm like, you have to do it. She's going to get sick. She's probably going to pass out. They're going to have it on video and it's going to be great. But you take those opportunities.
Starting point is 00:20:28 So she has to go a day earlier. So my point is we navigate our schedules and what I'm doing, what you're doing, what the kids are doing. And we're probably more than most people because we have so many kids and our schedules can be in flux. But we do it because it's also important to figure out when are we going to be together? When are we going to cut and carve time for us? When are we cutting and carving time for the kids?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yes. Because if you don't think about those things, life can just happen. You're on a hamster wheel and you don't even know what's going on. We make a big deal about we don't want to live separate lives. And I think that's a problem. If you have two people that live separate lives, separate friends, separate careers, I didn't marry her because I want to have a separate life. I married Rachel because I want to have a life with her. And so figuring out how we meld and mold our lives together is really important for us.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And that's part of scheduling and making sure we're doing things. Last year, I went to Daytona with you. I went to Talladega with you as well. Yeah, I came, I went to Daytona with you. Did I go to, I went to Talladega with you as well. Yeah. Fox and friends brought me down now because of our schedules. Now I'm staying, I'm going to stay at home with,
Starting point is 00:21:32 with all the kids because of just my schedule. I want to spend some time with them. I've had enough time with you. Just kidding. But I'm not, but I'm not going to go down. Yeah. But those are,
Starting point is 00:21:43 those are real things that I think married couples have to think about and building lives together. Yeah. Managing the schedule, but also carving out time, taking time, not feeling like you're wasting time talking about your relationship, talking about your childhood or how you were raised and how that's impacting how you're acting out in your relationship. Cause we all bring all that stuff into our own marriage. So I just think when people have asked me, you know, what is it? I mean, there's a lot of stuff. First of all, chemistry matters, right? I mean, I really love you and I'm very attracted to you. And that's a big, I love you and I'm attracted to you. And that's obviously, that's a really important
Starting point is 00:22:23 component, but it's also about, you know, if this is an important relationship, you're going to give it the time that it needs to, to flourish, to make it the best that it can be, to know that it's more important than talking about your career, um, than talking about, you know, random stuff. Your career is important, but nothing is more important than this. The career will work itself out because if your marriage is good, and that's what I tell women all the time,
Starting point is 00:22:52 and they're like, how do you balance work and family and your career? And I'm like, listen, get your love life right and everything else will work out. If you marry the right person, they're going to support you in your dreams and your passion, your career. Marry the wrong person, everything goes bad.
Starting point is 00:23:11 It's like a dark cloud. And that's a problem with what liberals have done. They said, listen, you can be happy if you stay single and you put your life into your career. And if you advance in your career and you make more money, that'll bring you happiness. And I think to the first point of this conversation, which liberal women are not as happy, it's because they're putting their time and energy, they're investing in things that don't bring happiness because your career will not make you happy. We've said how many times,
Starting point is 00:23:41 your corporation doesn't love you. It will not. At the end of life, it won't be there with you. Rachel says they're not changing your diapers. They're not there to assist you in the hard times in life. They're not going to hold your hand on your deathbed. No one at your corporation, your company is going to do that. There's good people in your corporation that you probably are friends with, but they won't love you. Making money isn't fulfilling. Money's great, but it doesn't fulfill you. Makes life easier. And so Rachel always brings the point up.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Find love. Find someone that you can share your life with and be together and be happy together and raise a family with. And I think that's really good advice. And I think too many men and women get advice that tells them to do something else. Or tells them to do it first. So for women, I think what it is, is they say, and this was mentioned in this study that they were talking about, it's like, they tell you, you have to do it in a certain order. You have to get your education, which I think is a great
Starting point is 00:24:37 thing to do. I've got mine. But you have to prioritize that, prioritize your career, make a lot of money. And then once you accumulate this money, then you can get married. Then you can be a little bit more money. Then you can have kids. By the time that happens, you're like almost 50. I mean, so again, this sequencing thing is weird. The most important thing in your life is your love life is your love life. Get your love.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And I say this for men and women. But I think the pressure on women to do it in a certain order is also biologically weird and doesn't work biologically. So a lot of women end up not having children or having problems having children because they were told they can't fall in love and get married in their twenties or their early thirties. They need to wait. And so anyway, I think all that's really interesting. Can I make one last point on that? So you actually lived what you're preaching, right? I did. So Rachel and I got married and I was graduating from law school.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I want to go back to Hayward, Wisconsin to practice law with my dad. This is a small town, rural Wisconsin. It's cold. It's snowy. I love it there. It's snowy. I love it there. It's my home. I'm from Arizona, and I love the heat. And Rachel decided that she loved me and was willing to make this adventure with me in a small town.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Again, traveled the world with her dad in the military and lived in bigger communities and had the benefits of a big community. And you moved to this small town for love. And we then- 2,000 people, by the way. 2,000 people. Then we went from Hayward to Ashland where I was a DA. Then we ran for Congress and went to Wausau and had a congressional experience. We've kind of done this whole thing together, but you didn't, again, I was not the catch of the sea. Yes, you were. Yes, you were. And you're like, no, no, we're going to do this together because I love you.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And you invested in our marriage and we invested in our careers. And our family. I was an at-home mom for 14 years. So during that period, I was an at-home mom. I did a few things. I had done television before I met Sean a little bit. And then obviously moving to a town of 2000 in rural Wisconsin, put the ice on my career, let's just say. And then having baby after baby did too.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I did a few things here and there. But basically I didn't land my dream job until I was in my late 40s, which was Fox and Friends. Fox and Friends. And so, listen, did I do things in between? I did. And Sean was really supportive of helping me, you know, do little gigs here and Friends. And so, listen, did I do things in between? I did. And Sean was really supportive of helping me, you know, do little gigs here and there. I got a contributorship at Fox, but I didn't land my dream job, which is my job at Fox and Friends. And it is a dream
Starting point is 00:27:16 until I was almost 50 years old. And, you know, I'm not saying that's for everybody, but I'm just saying I was able to do it because I had a great husband and a great partner. And I wouldn't do it any other way because I want all those kids that we have as well. We won't send any of them back. I wouldn't send any back. So I'm just saying the sequencing pressure on women is real. You got to live your life. Obviously, if your career ends up just flourishing in your 20s, well, then that happened to you. God bless you. That's awesome. But this idea that you have to hold off or you have to have a certain pot of money in order to get married or have a kid is ridiculous. It's never been done that way before. We would have never gotten married and
Starting point is 00:28:00 never had kids. Oh my God, ever, ever. But every time I had a baby, there's a Spanish saying, it says, babies are born with a little loaf of bread under their arms. And it's true. Every time we had a baby, we got a little bump in our income. Something happened, some deal, some, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Okay, so let's get to this because AI is kind of a big thing now, right? Go ahead. So I did Outnumbered yesterday. And one of the segments on Outnumbered was men who are using ChatGPT, which is an AI platform. And they're using that platform to write poems to their loved ones, their girlfriends or their wives. And I was on the couch. I'm like, that is a great idea.
Starting point is 00:28:41 That is awesome. So how does it work? And wait, hold on. And the women on the couch are like, that is, no, that's horrible. I got the same thing. I was listening to him, and he was saying, yeah, why wouldn't I allow a robot? I came home, and she's like, why didn't you talk to me before you gave that answer? I'm like, because that's the right answer.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Men need some help with some poems. With love poems. By the way, we tried this on Fox and Friends over the weekend. Pete did an AI poem about Will. And it was actually pretty good. But then when Sean said, yeah, I would totally do an AI poem, artificial intelligence. You give them certain data points, right? You tell them the name.
Starting point is 00:29:19 This is my first time using ChatGPT. I did it yesterday. I signed in. I just put a couple things in there to see what kind of poem. You put in my name, where we met, or what do you do? How does it work? Should I read what? But first explain how it works.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So you can put in a whole bunch of data points. I first put in Valentine's Day poem, and then I put a couple of different things. About me. About us. Okay. Us and you in this little platform to see what it kicked out. And I just did it randomly twice. Next time I would use it, I could get a far better poem from AI.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But by the way, I would think use AI as a tool to see what it generates. And then you can tweak it and modify it to make it your own. That's fair enough. But when I did hear you say on Outnumbered that you thought it was a fabulous idea to have your love poem on AI and all the women attacked you for it. I was with the women. I know you were. And then he came home with the poem last night. And then the men were with me, but not probably many men are watching Outnumbered.
Starting point is 00:30:14 So I probably lost. Who's your audience? I always think of who's your audience. Okay. So you're ready for my AI poem for you? Yes. 24 years have passed us by with nine children and no goodbye. Our love has grown like a sturdy oak through the trials that life did evoke. We've had our laughs,
Starting point is 00:30:33 we've had our tears, but our love has stayed through the years. We've watched Fox News and had great fun in our cozy cabin by the lake under the sun. Our love is like the tranquil lake. As we share each other, our hearts awake. We dance together through life's great joys and face its challenges without any noise, which is a lie because we have nine kids. That's a lie. There's a lot of noise.
Starting point is 00:30:54 We've built a family strong and true with love and care. We've seen it through. And with each passing year, we know our love will continue to grow and glow. Honey, that is so good i is so that's one i did a couple of them but we'll just leave it at that but it's actually interesting i think if you came home and read that to me i was like i was impressed sweet honey wow um except for the noise part we have noise in our house um but anyway i think whatever tools you can use, because listen, some men are limited, like me, in their creativeness.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And so if you have some tools out there to help you out, that's great. Actually, you know what I think? You want to get something for – a man wants to get something for their wife or their girlfriend, and they don't have a lot of style. What do they do? They ask other women in their life to help them find a gift that will be meaningful and fitting that their loved one will like he'll call my sister this is like asking you know your wife's friend what you should get your wife give some ideas i just got some ideas from ai that's it well happens all the time i'm gonna say bravo thank you that was a lovely poem it was was super sweet. Thank you. Really great.
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