From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - From JFK To Nixon: How Deep State History Explains What's Happening To Former President Trump

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

Many Americans only know the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the deep state, because the deeper you go down the rabbit hole, the more complex and disturbing it gets. Luckily, Sean and Rachel are joined by Monica Crowley — who, between her time serving as the Foreign Policy Assistant to former President Nixon and former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Public Affairs under the Trump Administration, has learned quite a bit about the history of the deep state and how it still heavily impacts our world today.   Monica sits down at the kitchen table to reveal how she believes the deep state is working to undermine and remove former President Trump from the political realm, how our current political era eerily resembles the days of President Nixon, and why the stakes of the 2024 Presidential Election are even higher than most Americans realize. Follow Sean & Rachel on X: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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for the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Sean, it's so great to be back here at the kitchen table, especially with our friend, Monica Crowley, who will give us a lot of insight into the history of the deep state. Monica, welcome. Hey, it's so good to be with you guys. Thank you so much for having me. Of course. So as you know, Monica served as the Assistant Secretary of Treasury for Public Affairs at

the United States Department of Treasury during the Trump administration. She's also the author of the New York Times bestseller, What the Bleep Just Happened, The Happy Warrior's Guide to the Great American Comeback. I love that because Monica's always been a happy warrior. She was, of course, an opinion editor at The Washington Times. And here's what's interesting to me. Earlier in her career, she served as the foreign policy assistant to the former President Richard Nixon from 1990 until his death in 1994. And she's also written about her experience doing that. So

with no further ado, our good friend, Monica Crowley, who we saw at the convention, it was really fun. I was with my sister who loves your work, loved so much of what you had to say about this topic, which you've been talking about for a while, but I'm still recovering. I slept. I don't know how long I slept today, but I fell asleep. Check this out. I fell asleep trying to listen, listen to the president's speech. And I fell asleep and never woke up. And it was that point. It was that presidency was that point. And she couldn't get to what I woke up, I saw that the president tweeted, this is so bad. And I thought, that's exactly what I thought.

Yeah. Yes. President Donald Trump said that. Yeah. No, you know what? We have been through an incredibly surreal period of time. And I just want to thank you guys so much for having me because I always look forward to seeing you and talking to you on all of your various shows. And it's just great to be on this platform as well with you. You know, the Republican convention was a huge success for President Trump, Vice President nominee J.D. Vance, the GOP, all of us who support America First was a rousing, rousing success. But Rachel, you're exactly right. It was totally exhausting. It was exhilarating.

But you're running around like physically just moving from arena to arena, going through security. It's a whole project when you attend a convention. It's a blessing, but it's a whole undertaking to get through it. So I'm with you. I am still recovering. And last night I was actually at a friend's house for dinner and they had like a small dinner party and there were like eight of us around the table. And I had warned them ahead of time. I said at eight o'clock, I need to go into the other room. I'm sorry to be rude, but I have to see what Joe Biden is going to say.

And I could not believe how bad it was crafted. Like, you know, when you work around presidents as we have, when you're around and when you're observing good presidential speeches, especially ones that have this kind of historical weight to them and importance to them, you expect them to be really well written, beautifully crafted with a lyricism and a logic to it. And we all know why Joe Biden is not running. Joe Biden is not running for two reasons. One, he can't win.

And two, the assassination attempt against President Trump was not successful. If it had been successful and Donald Trump, God forbid, were not with us today, they would still be running Joe Biden out of the White House 1000%. So we have seen and I did this on my podcast today, which everybody can stream now on Rumble, the Monica Crowley podcast. But I talked a lot about this today because in the last 12 days, 12 days since the assassination attempt on President Trump, just in that very short amount of time, you've had massively historically important events unfold. It feels like an eternity, but it's only been like a week and a half, not even two weeks.

That's why we're exhausted. Honestly, I think we're emotionally traumatized and exhausted by what's happening politically. It almost makes us yearn for the days when politics was kind of boring. It's been this has been so, so wild and so crazy. But my last comment to you on Joe Biden, it was it was shocking yeah i first of all you said the speech how it was crafted i thought it was crafted not for you know a a barack obama or george bush or ronald reagan it was crafted for a man who's going to have a hard time delivering it and he did have a hard time delivering that speech because he was slurring his words. And again, he's still a political hack talking about all his left wing ideology. But Monica, you've done a lot of work on what happened in the Nixon years, in the deep state.

And I wondered, are you able to pull any parallels from Nixon to how the deep state has been operating with Donald Trump? from Nixon to how the deep state has been operating with Donald Trump. Because, I mean, again, we talk about this a lot, but again, it was Russia collusion. It was impeachments. It was J6 insurrection. It was kick him off social media. Kick him off ballots. Kick him off ballots. Then it was like, let's prosecute him. And then it's, let's kill him.

And I mean, they haven't taken him down, but it seems that they're not going to stop. And can we learn anything from what happened in the Nixon era to what's happening right now? And maybe it's back just because I don't think a lot of people understand this history. I mean, they sort of understand Watergate bad, therefore Nixon bad. But I don't think people understand what happened. So maybe maybe kind of give us some of that as well as the parallels, some of the history as well. Thank you so much for this question, because it is in many ways, the question for everybody to hear and then understand the history. And, you know, on my podcast this week, I actually did three separate shows breaking this

history apart so I recommend that to everybody because I get more in depth than what we're going to do here but it's really critically important for everybody to understand that the deep state in this country is real it has a couple of different well there are a lot of moving elements to it. It includes Hollywood and the culture. It includes big tech. It includes academia. It includes the news media. But the driving forces in the deep state are the security state, meaning the security agencies, the intel agencies, CIA, NSA, DIA, et cetera. And then it's got the law enforcement aspect to it. So DOJ, FBI, et cetera. And then it goes all the way through every crevice of our society. So understanding what the deep state is, and they don't necessarily operate on a conspiracy.

Really, a conspiracy is just a confluence of interests. So you have a lot of operators and a lot of institutions operating. They're all on the same page because they've got a confluence of their interests working together. So with that understanding, let's peel apart about how we got to this moment in our history. And you talked about President Nixon. I would actually take one step further back to JFK. And a lot of people, okay, so a lot of people trace the beginning of the deep state actually controlling our country. So not the president, not Capitol Hill, not the Supreme Court, but the deep state actually being in control to November 22nd, 1963, because there's been a lot of evidence now coming out and a lot of books being written

that in fact, the CIA put a bullet in JFK. And when you ask why, again, this is much bigger picture, but think about the president who came before JFK. That was Dwight Eisenhower. And in his farewell address, he very famously warned the American people about the dangers of the power being held by what he called the military industrial complex, what we now know as the deep state that has a lot more elements to it. He warns the country publicly about it. JFK then comes into office. He does not want to go into Vietnam.

Kennedy does not want to. He's being pressured to assign the first combat troops to Vietnam. He does not want to do it. And guys, there is no profit in peace. There is only huge billion, hundreds of billions, trillions of dollars available to be laundered and made in war. So this is what Eisenhower is trying to warn about. So when you get a peacemaking president, somebody like a JFK, a Richard Nixon, a Donald Trump, who starts to make peace, bring the troops home, peace through strength, diplomatic agreements, all of the things that Kennedy wanted to do, Nixon wanted to do, Trump wanted to do and did, the deep state

cannot tolerate that. So a lot of people trace it to November 22nd, 1963, when they removed Kennedy and sent a literal shot across the bow, do not mess with us because we're in control now. So when you get a president like Nixon, and Rachel, this is to your point, Sean too, Nixon inherited the war in Vietnam, but then began making peace, detente with the Soviet Union, the opening to China, shuttle diplomacy in the Middle East, ending the draft, bringing the troops home. And then in a second term, he was going to completely gut and reform the executive branch, including the DOJ and the FBI, including the security state. They could not allow that. So now we're getting books like Jeff Shepard's books and others

going through the archival evidence and the historical data now. Do you guys know that four out of the seven Watergate burglars were CIA? Wow. I didn't know that. All right. So now it looks like that. Excuse me, Rachel, just to put a fine point on this. It looks like Watergate was a security set set up, a security state set up to remove Richard Nixon. And now you tease it all the way through. It is the exact same deep state targeting Donald Trump. Yes. By the way, great, great follow through here. I think for those who were really young during the Nixon years, maybe weren't even born during. So you laid out all the things that he did. Can you speak about how popular was Richard Nixon as he was doing all of these things, drawing back the war, you know, ending the draft, et cetera, et cetera. How did the people like those policies?

You know, it's really interesting because Richard Nixon became president in 1968 after having the 1960 election stolen from him by the Kennedys and the Lyndon Johnson machine in Texas. That election was stolen from him. So Democrats have been rigging and stealing elections for a very long time. So he comes back eight years later and it was a three way race. Lyndon Johnson, the incumbent president, essentially a deep state president, chose not to run again. Sound familiar? He chose not to run again because Vietnam had basically destroyed his presidency. So he stepped aside in a three-way race. Richard Nixon won. And then he became incredibly popular because he was beginning to wind down Vietnam with what he called a peace with honor.

He was instituting policies to turn the American economy around, bringing the troops home, ending the so popular that he won in a massive 49-state landslide. All right, so there are a lot of parallels between Trump and Nixon, even though they're vastly different men. But the deep state saw it, and they had to throw the brakes on it. There's one other thing I want to point out, guys. the brakes on it. There's one other thing I want to point out, guys. Our movement right now, America First, has its roots in the great silent majority, which is what Richard Nixon called us, normal Americans who love our country, the great silent majority. Then that became the Reagan Revolution. And then that became America First. So we are all the same movement over the last 50 or 60 years. Of course, people die and the faces change, but the movement remains the same.

And the deep state cannot have it, whether it's under Nixon or Reagan or Trump. The deep state cannot have us feel our own power because they realize there are more of us than there are of them, even though they control all of the levers of power. We, the ultimate power rests with us. So whenever we get together and feel ourselves like we are with America first, they have to get in there and destroy the leader, whether it's Nixon, they tried it with Reagan. They're certainly continuing to try it with Trump, destroy the leader, cut the head off the snake, and then destroy and disperse the movement.

And I'm actually thinking about writing a book about all of this, because having worked for both President Nixon in the last years of his life, President Trump at the Treasury Department, being his very first supporter, President Trump's, I bring such a unique perspective to this. Our movement is so incredibly powerful that the deep state literally pulls out all the stops from coups to assassination attempts, to smearing us, to rigging elections, to illegal lawfare, all of this stuff to try to stop not just one man, but to try to stop all of us. And frankly, we should take it as a huge compliment. Well, Monica, it's it's it's their effort to preserve their power. Right. If Donald Trump

and the American people are empowered, they have lost all power. And here's what concerns me. powered. They have lost all power. And here's what concerns me. You know, this is what the what the deep state has done in the past, whether it was an assassination of JFK or it was the deep state takeout with Watergate of Nixon. They've had to use all of those tools of the past against prior presidents, against Donald Trump. And what's interesting is none of it has worked. I mean, the, the Russia collusion, absolute hoax. That was the, almost maybe the, that was a playoff of the Nixon Watergate, the assassination attempt, a playoff of, of, of JFK.

None of this has worked, Monica. Donald Trump is still standing, which he, the man is a force of nature. But what concerns me now is what is the next step? They're not done. They're going to continue. But it seems like they've shot every bullet at Trump. What is the next thing that Deep State can do to make sure they prevent Donald Trump from becoming the 47th president? And maybe it's election rigging. But what what's in their tool belt that they can play here? Well, they definitely have a classic playbook. You're exactly right. So coups, assassination attempts. I mean, everybody needs to understand

we used to make fun of third world countries that rigged their elections and assassinated their leaders and all this and disappeared their leaders like Biden disappeared for six days. Nobody knew where he was. We used to make fun of them and sanction those kinds of countries with our moral superiority that we were a far more sophisticated and morally grounded system, right? Well, all of that's been blown to pieces. The illusion of our democracy is now going down the tubes and more and more people see it very clearly. But Sean, to your question, they do have a playbook. They seem to have gone through most of it. I mean, look, never doubt their creativity and their imagination, all right? That makes them very dangerous. But the illegal lawfare,

the rigging of elections, the removal of the sitting president to try to create a glide path for their next elevated puppet, the assassination attempts, et cetera, that is their standard fare. So it frightens me a little bit to think that they have something else in their pocket, which we know that they do, something else up their sleeve. I just don't quite know what it is, but I do know that they're not going to stop. I mean, guys, think about it this way. Back in 2020, well, let's go back. In 2016, Trump was not supposed to win. Hillary was supposed to do another eight years and lock in what Obama called the fundamental transformation of the nation right so when Trump won in 2016 it

caught them flat-footed and they vowed never again so in 2020 they literally pulled out all the stops they launched a virus yes on purpose they shut down the global economy. They had Antifa and Black Lives Matter burn down the country. They rigged the election. And then the cherry on top was the Fed's erection of January 6th, all to stop one man and his movement. Okay. And I've said this directly to President Trump. And I think it's very tough for one person, even someone as powerful as Donald Trump, to absorb that he is that much of a threat to this whole global system. It's not just our deep state, it's a global deep state, all right, all working in conjunction to stop him and America first. So when you think about that's what they did in 2020, they said never again. So in 2024, what have they done? Well, they were relying on the lawfare to try to stop Donald Trump and put him in prison. And they still may succeed in doing that because the sentencing is in September.

actually put him in prison. Sean, maybe that's the answer. Maybe their answer is they're going to jail him. But I'm telling you right now, if they jail him, he can still run from prison and he will win in an even bigger landslide. So everything that they have tried has backfired here. And I think it's because he has the hand of God on him. I truly do. I think, first of all, a lot more people are aware of the military-industrial complex, the deep state, whatever you want to call it. From Kennedy on, we've had 60 years now of seeing them in action. And recently, we've all begun to put the pieces of the puzzle together here. But I also think people spiritually are more awake to the fact that this is, in fact, a spiritual war. And that, you know, Trump and Biden and Kamala and Obama and all these players are on the chessboard.

But there's something going on on a much higher level here. This is God versus the enemy, right? Good versus evil. I think a lot of people, even if they're not believers, they're attuned to, hey, man, there's something bigger going on here. We'll be right back with much more after this. Some things require a lot of work to grow, like plants, hair, babies, or your savings. But when you run a business, you already have enough on your plate. Scotiabank's Right Size Savings for Business account can help you grow your savings with ease.

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and will vary based on account balance. Visit scotiabank.com slash right sizesavings for full details. I think you're 100% right. I think a couple of things, my mind has been racing listening to everything that you're saying. One, I think Elon Musk taking over X has been, I just think it might be perhaps the number number one difference between 2000 and 16, especially 2020. The ability for people to put those dots together, X and Elon Musk. It's interesting. There was an interview the other day where Elon Musk said, you know, I decided after his son was, you know, had a gender, got caught up in that whole gender transformation thing.

And he said that he was tricked and told by counselors that by a counselor at the kids Wokey, you know, private school that, you know, his kid would commit suicide if he didn't go along with this. And now he said, I lost my son. And he said, and that was the moment that I decided I would do everything I could to end the woke mind virus. And then he said, I think we're making progress. And I just thought, wow, that one counselor changed the course of American history because I think taking over X and it was part of killing the woke mind virus. Well, no, we have the opportunity now to communicate again.

They had shut down, as they controlled the media, they now controlled all social media too. We had no ability to communicate. We had no outlets. We now have that with X, which again, I think it is allowing people to your point, Rachel, to connect the dots and to have conversations and actually to call them out and mock them and laugh

at them. I mean, even today, there's a there's a conversation about how Kamala Harris was not the border czar. And we're like, what? And on Twitter all over, you see the videos of even the liberal liberal media is calling her the border czar. And now they're coming out going, well, she's not the border czar. Why is the right saying this? The propaganda doesn't work if we can we can recall these events and we can post them and we can share them and play the tape. But before they were suppressing that. So I think that's one one part of it for sure. You have RFK Jr. now with a very much more elevated public presence than ever before. It was sort of like the anti-vax outsider. Now you have all, because of podcasts and everything else, he's out there and he's saying, yeah, the CIA killed my uncle

and my dad. So you have that. Then you also have, I think, again, people connecting the dots. You talked about, Sean, what's next? What else can they do? I'm going to offer you my theory of what I think they will do and are in the process of doing. And that is, and I learned about this when I went to the border. I went to the border and did some work on NGOs and helped to uncover that. The NGOs are deeply involved in this deep state arrangement that's going on, this deep state plot. And once I did that, I had whistleblowers, illegal, illegals. I got illegals who sent through somebody else, sent me the voter registrations that they were getting from HHS, a state, Oregon and Washington state. So what they are doing is they are registering illegals. And I think they're going to harvest

those ballots. I think that's part of it. You can't tell me why else would they would that would you be wanting to register illegals? I don't think, Monica, that illegals are a ton of them are going to be going to the polls with with with with drop boxes. You don't need to have them. They don't have to go to the polls and risk being caught because they don't even ask for their ID cards anymore. But it's just I think they're going to harvest those ballots. I think that's part of what I think might be happening. I don't know what you think about that. I think that's part of what I think might be happening. I don't know what you think about that. Yeah. So there are two main reasons for having the Biden-Mayorkas-Harris no borders policy. You know, we've all been calling it open borders. And while that's true, I think the more accurate description is no borders policy.

I mean, there are literally no borders in America under this trio. Two main reasons for this. One is exactly as you say, Rachel, which is political. So it has fled the country, fled the zone with tens of millions of illegal immigrants, get them on a path to citizenship, get them voting, you know, ultimately legally voting. But for the time being, you are exactly right. The way the ballot harvesting operation the left has set up over the last several years, they don't need somebody to physically go to the ballot box and drop their ballot in or go to a machine. They just need the illegal immigrant in the country because they need a name and an address. That's it. That's it. Right. So then

once they have a name and an address for some illegal who's physically in the country, then they can print the ballot with that name and address. They fill it out. They put it in the ballot box. They put or otherwise into the system. And that ballot is counted the same as yours, mine and Sean's. And Monica, that that this guy, this whistleblower said he had. So this this whistleblower was from Venezuela. He he came here illegally. He's one of the ones that were flown over. Remember the flights that were coming that were being he was getting flown illegally. He's one of the ones that were flown over. Remember the flights that were coming that were being he was getting flown over. It was Catholic Relief Services in, I believe, Chile was helping to to get him over to the United States. Once he got over, he got sent

to Oregon. In Oregon, HHS sent him for called him and then sent four different um uh requests for him to register to vote which he didn't do which he was one of like kind of i guess you say the good guys he was somebody who was like my done as well i went to you know what to crap and he was like they're doing to this country what they what what they're what they did to mine and he did he didn't register but he sent it to a friend of his in the country, an American citizen said, look at what they're doing. They're trying to rig the election. They keep pressuring me to register to vote. Yeah, exactly right. And we also have jurisdictions in this country like San Francisco, Washington, D.C., and New York is trying it, too. They're

not quite there, but allowing illegals to vote in local elections. Well, if you have a local election on the day of the national election for president, how are you stopping that illegal? Oh, you can vote for mayor, but you can't vote for president. Come on. So they've created this like massive slush fund of ballots and ballot harvesting, because it's really all they need is a name and an address, then they print the ballot, they themselves fill it out, and then push it into the system. So that's number one, because ultimately they want a permanent Democrat voting majority, so that you never again get a Republican president or Republican Congress. The Democrats, the left, will have full control over the country. And one party system, Rachel, as you well know, is called communism. And that, of course, is the ultimate goal. But there's another much bigger, deeper, more sinister, if you can believe it, reason for the no borders policy. deep state, or maybe the more accurate phrase is to call it the system, run by the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, the UN. Their globalist agenda is ultimately to achieve

essentially a one world government where there is no more national borders, there's no more national sovereignty. And therefore, in order to get there, they have to erase all nations' borders, which is why the fierce resistance to Brexit, because they need to have like a huge blob, no sovereign countries, just one mass of humanity with them sitting atop it. So the point of having no borders is to erase America's borders, flood the zone, dilute our culture, dilute our political system, dilute our economic power. And because they know if they knock off America, they can more easily achieve their goal. That's right.

Listen, I couldn't agree with that more. Monica, I want to give one point. to say that those ballots go into the system. With a secret ballot, if I am illegal and I fill a ballot out and I put it in a Dropbox with other legal ballots, you don't know what one was illegal, which one was legal. And that's how they do it, right? It's like you're laundering ballots, you're laundering votes, illegal ones with legal ones. Why this is so this is why it's so effective. And that's why covid, you know, when Monica talked about they unleashed covid, covid wasn't like, yeah, there was a tyrannical like thing about controlling us. But really, at the heart of it was about getting the mail back, mail in ballots universally, universally mail in ballots, which has always been the Democrat goal.

Well, this is this is a template to cheat. Right. This is when you take away rules and restrictions. Show, you know, show your ID, one ballot, one person, one ID. Those restrictions prevent cheating. Right. You take those restrictions away so you can foment and usher in more cheating. But Monica, we don't have a whole lot of time with you. I want to move to this, the assassination attempt on Donald Trump. As we see now, there were so many failures in the security apparatus around Donald Trump, so many failures that it almost had to be intentional. Or negligent or intentional negligence.

Well, yeah, negligent would mean that these people are incompetent. You might go, Cheadle, the head of the Secret Service, was incompetent. Yes, but there are systems in place. We know how to protect people. And Donald Trump, there was a facade that he's being protected by the Secret Service. But in reality, there was no protection around him. And it might have may not have been in Butler, Pennsylvania. But they knew at one point, if they don't protect him, a shot was going to come and probably take him out. I guess my question for you, as you know, we see how social media can operate.

Sleuths can look at evidence and videos and try to figure things out. But now we see the Secret Service and the FBI, they're kind of stonewalling the Congress. They're not being transparent with information. How do you see this investigation playing out? Will we get to the truth about what happened with this assassination? Was there any role or intentional negligence by the Secret Service? How do you see this playing with with the American people and with the deep state and the cover up? And what do you think happened? Yeah, you know, I mean, look, knowing what we now know about the system slash deep state and what they are capable of. And we laid out what they did in 2020, which was global and catastrophic, again, to stop one man and his movement and to get

their globalist agenda back on track after four years of America first success. We know what they're capable of. So while we're getting bits and pieces of raw data and house oversight, putting out the phone tracking data of the shooter, and we're starting to put the pieces of the puzzle together, it does increasingly look like there was criminal negligence here, whether it was intentional or not, we're going to have to see. I have my suspicions because look, every president is in a threat matrix and we all know that. But over the last decade plus, there have only been two presidents who have had catastrophic levels of threat. One was Barack Obama because he was the first black president.

So he always had enhanced security, and I'm sure he still has that. And Donald Trump, because he represented an existential threat to the entire corrupt ruling class and to the system. Catastrophic levels of threat against Donald Trump for the last nine years since he came down the escalator. Therefore, there is no excuse for him to go into any event without the maximum amount of care being taken, security, double, triple check, redundancies in every direction. And not only was that not the case at this event, God knows how many other events he walked into where it was stripped down. It just leads me to believe that, and I think most of the American people, even if they don't know all of the elements in history as we have laid out here today, Common sense tells the American people that the system has been working really, really hard to stop this man. And I think a lot of the American people are saying,

huh, I wonder why. Because he is here to serve us and to restore power back to the American people as the founders had intended. They're saying, wait a minute, over the last nine years, the Russia hoax, two fake impeachments, a rigged election undermining his presidency, the imperial media attacking him constantly, January 6th and that frame up, the lawfare, the raid on Mar-a-Lago, all of this stuff leading up to an assassin's bullet. People are putting it together and they're saying, man, they really want this guy gone. And if they want this guy gone, then he must stand for us. Right. I mean, I hope that's where people I hope that there are enough people in four months

to make that decision. My concern, Monica, is that this is the last chance that if this doesn't happen now, because he's a once in a lifetime figure, the will never have a figure as strong and able to withstand all the things that you laid out. Most people can't handle that level of abuse. Most families would have said, I'm out. Let's not do this anymore. This is too much. But this family has stood strong. This man has stood strong. If this time he doesn't get in with everything that's happened and everything that we're seeing, I think it's going to be kind of like in those, you know, Eastern European countries where people just go, I don't bother voting because I know it's rigged or in Latin America, it's the same thing.

And if somebody tries to run, they get assassinated. Mexico had two dozen people murdered, assassinated who were running for office. We don't talk about it here, but that's what happens in these kinds of countries in the last election cycle. So I think we're at a critical juncture in America. It's people like you, Monica, and people like us who are trying to lay out what's happening. You have a very unique, awesome perspective. I hope that you write that book. I think it needs to be written. All these dots need to be connected. And again, the next four months are going to be the most amazing, incredible ride we've ever been on politically as a nation in our lifetimes. cannot be higher. You know, the cliche, this is the most important election of our lifetimes. This one actually really is because, you know, when you think about the history of what this country has been through, the rolling Marxist revolution that the system began in the 1930s,

and then, you know, you call it the deep state or whatever, but it really began as a KGB operation to undermine the United States from within by grabbing control over all of the major pillars of American society and life. That includes the government, the economy, academia, the news media, and the culture, Hollywood, movies, television, music. That started in the 1930s. So guys guys they have been at this for almost a century that is the reason why right now we are at the tipping point of losing the country forever because they've been at this for so long this didn't just start under obama or biden or whatever this has been a long-term project, the long march through the institutions. And that's why now they are so desperate because they are in their end game. And when they get the

United States of America, they've gotten the brass ring. This is the top prize. And they did not suspect the rise of Donald Trump and the America First movement. Again, this is the hand of God Trump and the America First movement. Again, this is the hand of God rising all of us up to save our country, which was based on Judeo-Christian values. This is a spiritual battle. We are in a spiritual war. But Rachel, to your point, this is it. The system is increasingly desperate because they never expected real resistance from us. But a desperate system is a very dangerous one. So the next couple of months, and even when Trump gets reelected, it is going to be nonstop warfare because they're not just going to allow and march back in. And then if he does somehow get elected, they're not just going to let him govern with glee

and ease. So we are looking down the barrel of a very intense period of time, but it requires every one of us to pray and to man the ramparts with either your expertise, volunteer your expertise, your resources, pony up some money to President Trump, his campaign, America First Candidates. Listen to this podcast. Listen to this podcast. Listen to my podcast. Arm yourselves with the truth because we need everybody here fighting this battle, including poll watchers. We definitely. Yes, it's you don't have to. You don't have to be Monica Crowley and have a podcast

and know all this history of the deep state. you can just in your own little town say, I'm not going to allow cheating in my precinct. It goes down to that very basic level. Monica, you are a treasure. I'm so happy to know you, to call you my friend and colleague. You are just a wealth of information and we are so grateful to have you on. I love your podcast. I do encourage people to listen to your podcast. It's always great. You always have great guests and so much great insight. It's a challenging name to find. It's the Monica Crowley podcast. I love it too, Monica. Thank you guys so much. Oh, it's my great pleasure. And I want to make mention that my podcast is now streaming on Rumble. So you can find it there too at the Monica Crowley podcast.

But I adore you guys. I treasure your friendship so much. You are patriots. You are believers. You are so lovely. And I'm just so blessed to have you in my life as well. So thank you for having me, guys. Thanks, Monica. And I'm glad you're on Rumble.

You can't be canceled. That's it. I love it. Monica Crowley, thank you so much. Always a pleasure, guys. And I'm glad you're on Rumble. You can't be you can't be canceled. That's it. I love it. Monica Crowley, thank you so much. Always a pleasure, guys. Thank you. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Breaking news happens anywhere, anytime. Police have warned the protesters repeatedly. Get back. CBC News brings the story to you as it happens. Hundreds of wildfires are burning. Be the first to know what's going on and what that means for you and for Canadians. This situation has changed very quickly.

Helping make sense of the world when it matters most. Stay in the know. CBC News. So, Rachel, I love having Monica on. She's, she's a wealth of information and it, it, I want to go back to something that she mentioned, um, which is when you have the deep state, um, back on its heels and that's when they get very dangerous. And so when the next shoe drops, they execute the next plan. Just know that that's what it is. Don't get freaked out. Don't go, oh, no, there's this new thing that happened with Donald Trump. You know, or there's this new story. Don't believe it. They've tried this over and over again. You almost have to laugh at them. It's like, well, that's the problem they have, Sean, isn't it? I mean, they've they've they've vilified him so much that like

there's nothing you can really say anymore about Donald Trump. You can't call him a racist and everyone's going to freak out and not vote for him. I mean, listen, it's baked in. And there are people that don't like him because of that baked in image that he has. I mean, you know, I spoke to a friend of mine who's like, I just can't vote for him because he's just mean. And that, and, and again, I sent her the, uh, the clip of the gold star moms who, you know, and dads, by the way, who said in their very powerful speech, if you haven't seen it from the convention, Google Gold Star Parents RNC Convention. You know what's mean? Never saying the names of people who died under your command, Joe Biden's command. He won't even say their names. He totally disrespected them by talking about his own son instead of their own, their children who had died, you know, within hours of those bodies arriving at at at on the airplane, on the military plane back to U.S. soil.

Donald Trump called each one of those parents. Donald Trump invited them and spent six hours with those families talking about their kids. But again, this is the, the, the image that has been baked in for Donald Trump. And, and some people are going to be able to overcome that because of what they're seeing happening, this crazy scene. And some people aren't, you know, um, I don't like bad people. I don't, um, in my own life, I just, I, it's, you know, this about me, I get, I, I get my backup against the wall. You and i've spent a lot of time with president trump um in many different kinds of settings and he is the most generous wonderful nice human being um and that you've ever not at all the image that you see and i think

that's what the rnc was trying to do by the way that was their goal of that convention and and the flip side of that is he fights people that are fighting him and he and he fights hard right he's a hard fighter and that's what you see on the stage but it's i we both have heard him um cameras aren't there there's no recordings he's not vindictive no he's not looking for blood. He's not looking at taking people out who, um, who opposed him. He's trying to beat him, but he doesn't, he's not there to, you know, put people in jail, you know, to take away their money and their career. Like he just wants to, they're, they're opposed to him saying mean things about him. He wants to beat them, but not destroy them. And the left, you see them trying to destroy people, ruin their lives and their livelihoods and their reputations and their families.

That's not Trump. So I think, I mean, I just, I, and so to your point, the presentation of the media of who Trump is, I think, is not accurate. But however, Donald Trump on stage as he's, you know, he'll attack people. He uses really harsh language, right, to fight them. And that can play into the liberal media and how they want to characterize him. But the fact of beating people versus destroying people is a distinction that should be made. And I think that that's one of the things that shocked him about the deep, deep state. You know, when we interviewed him, Will Pete and I at Bedminster for our our Fox

and Friends interview with President Trump, he said, you know, I I'm with these fighters. You know, he loves the UFC fights. And he said, yes, this was great. He said these you know, I I'm with these fighters. You know, he loves the UFC fights. And he said, yes, this was great. He said, these are they're killers, right? These are these are the toughest guys. And they they fight each other. And then when they're done, it's over and they hug it out. And he's like, I thought that that's what would happen after I beat Hillary Clinton.

Which is why I didn't try to, I didn't try to push the prosecution of Hillary Clinton. She had committed crimes, but I said, that's not what we do. And he didn't. Right. In fact, he famously said,

you know, everyone was like, lock her up, lock her up. And he's like, no, I, after he won,

he said, now I call her beautiful Hillary. I remember that beautiful Hillary, like he calls it beautiful coal, you know, beautiful, clean coal, beautiful, clean coal. So, which calls it beautiful coal, you know, beautiful, clean coal, beautiful,

clean coal. So which actually is a coal, a piece of coal in Hillary. That's a great analogy as well. Right. So he called her beautiful Hillary and he thought it was over. He thought they would be able to shake hands, hug it out. She would go off into the woods and drink Chardonnay and run off into the sunset. But that was not the plan that Hillary Clinton had for him. And he thought that he could be president. And he thought he could be president. But there was already, as you said, Sean, they had a plan B just in case he won. And the plan B was the plan B was the Russia hoax.

So these are very vindictive, powerful players. And as you said, Sean, the next four months are going to be amazing. And get ready and don't be surprised. They're going to try every trick in the book. They are not allowed. Donald Trump is not allowed to win this election. And listen, the one thing that the one thing they could have never predicted was that he would get assassinated, miss the bullet, hit his ear and then come out with a fist in the air saying fight, fight, fight. This had to have been exploding minds because this was not the way this election was supposed to go.

And so now here we are. Kamala Harris. Sean, I do not believe Kamala Harris is going to be the nominee. I believe something is going to happen in the next couple of weeks before or during the DNC convention. It's going to be insane. That's that's possible. And again, the people who say, you know, they're standing up for democracy, their convention is what they believe in. The power brokers are going to pick the candidate, not the people, because the people picked Joe Biden. Which is the opposite of the RNC convention,

which was the base was happy with Trump and with J.D. Vance. And it was the power brokers, the establishment and the donors who are unhappy. But make no mistake, Joe Biden left office last night. Now left office, but he's not going to run again. And it's not on his own volition. He wanted to run again. It was the power brokers that pushed him out. He looked so diminished last night, Sean. It's hard to believe that these people think it's OK to have that man continue to be, quote unquote, the president and that the American people would be OK with

that. It's like we've had him as the president for the last three years. But now that everything is out in the open, Sean, now that he's even been forced to say I'm I'm I'm too diminished mentally to run for office, but I'm going to keep doing this. We didn't say that. But again, it's clear to everybody. That's what he did. But it does beg the question again. And we don't here's from the country because joe biden is not running

it it's it's the obamas and whoever is behind the obamas which are the soros's and and as monica rightly pointed to this is beyond our borders this isn't some like you, domestic cabal of the Axelrods and the and Soros and and and the Obamas. This is a globalist play. This is the one world government thing that used to be called a conspiracy theorist and an insane person for talking about. It's it's real. If you can bring in Bernie Sanders supporters, ideologues of leftist commie philosophy, Barack Obama doesn't have to run it, right? If you put these minions in place inside the White House without asking Barack Obama, they're going to do the work of Barack Obama and George Soros. And so

that's what Joe Biden did. All his advisors, his team is made up of these radical leftists, what joe biden did all his advisors his team is made up of these radical leftists which is why you've seen radical leftist policies did it have to be the you know brock obama behind the curtain pulling the strings maybe sean there were meetings i know the press never told the story um there were regular meetings being done at the colorama mansion that that is Barack Obama's mansion, where his mommy, Valerie Jarrett, lives as well and hangs out. And they would have meetings there. And then with with Biden aides who were the Obama plants inside of the of the administration, they go back and do this was. And the press never covered the way it should. And the press never covered the way it should this back and forth between the White House and the Obama mansion in D.C. There has never been, except for one president who had a stroke and couldn't leave D.C., every other president rides off into the sunset, goes to their ranch, goes to their summer home and writes their memoir and starts their museum. But not Barack Obama.

He stayed put in D.C. He's been running the show. He's been running this election. The reason why Joe Biden hated Barack Obama was because Barack Obama chose Hillary Clinton over him. Joe Biden was convinced he could have beat Donald Trump. And it's possible he might have been able to beat Donald Trump in 2016. But Barack Obama chose Hillary Clinton. And since then, Joe Biden has not only disliked Obama for that, but has also not trusted Obama's, you know, political strategy skills. And and a lot of things have gone wrong for all the control they've had, Sean. A lot of things have not gone their way. The lawfare was supposed to work. The Russia hoax was supposed to work. The impeachments were supposed to work. Nothing has worked to take down Donald Trump. And even, you know, the assassination

attempt on Donald Trump didn't go out the way they planned with Donald Trump screaming, fight, fight, fight. So there are things that can go wrong. There is still a lot of hope despite the power that these people have. But the next four months, I cannot tell you now, it's going to be crazy. Well, there is an election and they're doing all of these things because, yes, they have a lot of power, but they don't have all the power at this point in our history. The American people, the American voters still has a tremendous amount of power, which is why Donald Trump continues to say this election has to be too big to rig. Yeah. And so that's that's what he's looking for. That's what he's fighting for.

And again, right now, Sean, doesn't do the polls seem really close. So so so Donald Trump was pulling away from from Joe Biden in the polling. It was getting better for Trump, worse for Biden. How big was that gap before they took out Joe Biden? What you have to look at is state by state, battleground states. And so Donald Trump was improving his numbers in Pennsylvania and in Michigan and a little bit in Wisconsin and off the off the playing field. I mean, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada were off the playing field. Donald Trump is going to start playing in in Virginia, maybe New Hampshire, maybe even New Jersey, New Jersey, Minnesota or New Mexico.

Those were those were potential pickup places. So with that being said, this- So it's not too dangerous, too cool. Well, no. So now with Kamala Harris, she's just, yeah, she was the VP, but she's still too new as a top of the ticket candidate. And people don't know what they think about her. They don't know kind of her history, what's her message, which is why Donald Trump's trying to define her right now and why she's trying to define herself. And the history is in the vice presidency has been so bad for her and it's her fault. I mean, she couldn't take on the issues that were given to her again, like borders are.

But also the speeches that she gave the staff that she couldn't keep when she was a disaster as the VP. And so it's she is definitely she's going to have a hard time recrafting her image to the American people because there's so much there now is possible with all the media. But your point is they had to do something about Joe Biden because Donald Trump was pulling away with this race. The numbers were just declining so much for Joe Biden after the debate and people were losing confidence. They had to shake something up. The easiest thing to do, move them out, put in Kamala,

hope they can get a little bit of bump of a bump. If this doesn't work out in the next couple of weeks, I think you could see that they may pull something else and get her out. At the DNC, something could happen. So this is not a foregone conclusion. It's at the DNC, their convention, that they pick their candidate, right? So it looks like it's going to be Kamala, but it's at that convention where the delegates actually vote. And that's when she would be the nominee. So we're going to watch. We're waiting for the next shoes to drop. This is one of the most fascinating election seasons that we've ever seen in this country.

It's going to continue to be interesting. There's a lot of unknowns that we can't predict, but it's going to be wild. that we can't predict, but it's going to be wild. And we're going to be here to give it to you all at the kitchen table, unpacking the scandal, the deep state, and giving you the truth. And so thanks for joining us on this edition from Brown Lake in Hayward, Wisconsin. Beautiful day today for joining us at the kitchen table.

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