From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Gen Z Voters' Historic Gender Gap & Vice President Harris Running On Avoidance

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Vice President Kamala Harris seems to be making more appearances on the campaign trail, yet many Americans remain unclear on what she plans to do if she were to take office in 2025. On top of that, th...e political division splitting the country is becoming increasingly notable among Gen Z voters — specifically between young women flocking to the left and young men turning toward the right.   On this special episode, Sean has a one-on-one chat with his daughter, the host of the podcast 'Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita,' Evita Duffy-Alfonso to break down these layered topics.   Follow Sean & Rachel on X: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:42 Hey everybody, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with, well, not my normal co-host, Rachel Campos Duffy. I'm joined today by my daughter Evita. What are you, Alfonso Duffy now? Duffy Alfonso? Evita Duffy, my daughter. Duffy Alfonso. What's your name again? Listen, Evita, thank you for joining me at the kitchen table.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Mom is out today, couldn't be with us. So I'm like, hey, Evita, want to join me for the podcast? Because so much is happening today. We have the hearing that was going on with regard to the assassination attempt on Donald Trump on July 13th. Eric Adams, the mayor of New York, is indicted. But I want to talk to you about one of my favorite topics, which is Kamala Harris. Now, as we both know and have talked about, she's been trying to give her message on where she wants to go with the American people, economically, immigration, foreign policy. And as she's done that, she's gone to the Philadelphia Economics Club. She spoke there, and she also did an interview on MSNBC with Stephanie Ruhle.
Starting point is 00:01:53 We're going to play some clips, but I want to get your take on how well she's making that message, delivering that message, campaign message to the American people. Well, let me just say first, before I answer your question, if you guys hear any background noise on my end during this show, it's because Hurricane Helene is in the background as I'm speaking. And I'm in a safe part of Florida, so I'm not concerned, but it is a crazy storm outside. So that's the background noise. As far as Kamala Harris goes, there really isn't a message. She talks all the time about the american spirit and
Starting point is 00:02:27 inspiration and there's no substance to it at all it's almost as if she's michael michael joked my husband michael joked about it earlier today after we watched her her interview with stephanie rule he said it's like she's writing an essay and she has to meet the word count so she's just saying a whole lot of nothing to fill in the space. And it's completely meaningless. And I think that's kind of the point. I think the permanent state is really the one running the show. And they love that Kamala Harris is essentially an empty vessel for them. So to that point, the word salad of Kamala Harris.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Let's play one of the clips. This is, I believe, from the interview on MSNBC. Let's listen. There are lots of Americans who don't see themselves in your plans. For those who say these policies aren't for me, what do you say to them? Well, if you are hardworking, if you have have the dreams and the ambitions and the aspirations of what I believe you do, you're in my plan. You know, I have to tell you, I really love and am so energized
Starting point is 00:03:37 by what I know to be the spirit and character of the American people. We have ambition. We have aspirations. We have dreams. We have aspirations. We have dreams. We can see what's possible. We have an incredible work ethic. But not everyone has the access to the opportunities that allow them to achieve those things.
Starting point is 00:03:58 But we don't lack for those things. But not everyone, you know, gets handed stuff on a silver platter. And so my vision for the economy, I call it an opportunity economy, is about making sure that all Americans, wherever they start, wherever they are, have the ability to actually achieve those dreams and those ambitions, which include for middle class families, just being able to know that their hard work allows them to get ahead, right? I think we can't and we shouldn't aspire to have an economy that just
Starting point is 00:04:32 allows people to get by. People want to do more than just get by. They want to get ahead. So, Avita, what frustrates me is, again, the phrase opportunity economy, that's actually a Republican phrase, because we do want to have an economy where people have opportunity to work hard, advance their skill sets, and improve their lot in life, make more money, support their families, buy a house. Opportunity economies are what we strive for. Kamala Harris has taken the idea of an opportunity economy and has surrounded it with her good vibes and all of this garbage language. And when you listen to her, what concerns me is that she wants to have a guarantee, it seems like, for everybody to get a certain salary, to have a certain standard of living. And that's a great promise to the American people.
Starting point is 00:05:24 to have a certain standard of living. And that's a great promise to the American people. You know, that's why socialism and communism, those arguments work when they're made to people. The problem is that that's not the end result. Because if you guarantee that everyone makes good money, no one fails, everyone succeeds. What happens is your whole economy collapses. everyone succeeds, what happens is your whole economy collapses. Because the best form of an economy is a capitalist economy where the best people rise, you can work hard, you can make it in the economy. But if you don't use your God given talents, and you're kind of lazy, you kind of won't make it in this country. And I think that's a fair system. Yeah, I feel like that. I mean, it's a it's a good assessment if that were really the the the ideas that she's putting forward. I kind of feel like there is nothing there,
Starting point is 00:06:10 right? Like, like, sure, she talks a little bit about price controls, and she sort of doesn't back down from that. But generally, it kind of seems like a lot of the more radical left wing policies, more almost authoritarian left wing policies, like banning fracking, for instance, she's flip-flopped on. And we don't even really know what we're going to get with Kamala is my sense of it. We think that she's this radical leftist. She's the most radical left-wing senator that they have, right? She was a top-rated one. Then suddenly she says all these things and then backtracks on them. We don't really know what we're getting with her. And I'd actually kind of prefer it if she was saying, I'm going to be a communist dictator. I'm going to come in. We're going to set up the gulags. We're going to kill all the Christians. We're going to seize the means of production. And it's going to be Soviet Union
Starting point is 00:06:58 2.0 because at least we know what we're getting. Right now, we have no idea what we're getting. To me, it feels like we have no sense of what any of that means. She's purposely not running on anything. She's running on the coconut dance trend. She's running on celebrity endorsements. And she's hoping that will carry her through without having to really talk about anything substantive in regards to policy. And I think the American people deserve the respect to have someone who wants to be the president actually lay out their vision, lay out their plans, lay out their policies for the country. But I would tell you, Evita, that I think it's working for her, right? If you look at the poll numbers, and again, I'm not sure I trust any of the polls right
Starting point is 00:07:34 now. I'm going to put that on the table first. But if you look at the polls and if you were to trust them, you would say, well, Kamala Harris has closed the gap in regard to the economy with Donald Trump. She was down 20 points on the economy. Right now, she's down only five points on the economy. She's actually closed the gap on immigration. She's down about seven points on immigration, illegal immigration, where she was down about
Starting point is 00:07:58 20 points about four weeks ago as well. It seems to be working if we trust the polls that by saying nothing and letting the media do all the work for her, that she's actually winning in the national poll, right? She's up by two to three points nationally, but she's improved in the swing state polls as well. So why change course? Yeah, I think you're right about that. It's definitely a strategy and she's going to use that. I'm not sure how accurate the polls are. I mean, we all know polls aren't the most reliable. I also, I don't know if you feel this way, dad.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I feel like her laugh is a nervous tick. When she's talking during that interview, even during a speech, she went off the script for a second and she even admitted it, and she said a book of the Bible wrong. I feel like she has imposter syndrome. She knows that she's too low IQ for this job. And so she laughs to overcompensate. She spews out these meaningless word salads. And she strikes me as not very confident. That was a big takeaway from the debate as well, that she doesn't seem confident. And when you are going to be the leader of the free world, allegedly free, and you're going to head on a superpower and signal to the rest of the world, hey, don't mess with America. You have to be a confident person.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And it really concerns me that I actually think it's more of a Kamala problem that internally she knows she's not prepared for this job. Yeah. I look at someone like Bernie Sanders. He's a Democrat socialist. He admits what he is. And he has zero problem laying out his radical socialist agenda. He runs on it and he defends it. And I disagree with it, but he makes the case for it. And that's what American politics are supposed to be about, as opposed to this idea that I'm going to hide what my real positions are. And I'm going to come out with fake positions, just trying to win the vote from the American people. I'm going to try to dupe the American people to vote for me, people. I'm going to try to dupe the
Starting point is 00:10:05 American people to vote for me, but then they're going to get Bernie Sanders on steroids. And I, again, I wish that wasn't the case. I wish that we had more respect for ourselves as a country and as a media to call her out, but that's not happening. You, you mentioned the word salads just because it's so much fun. Evita, if you don't mind, I'd like to play just one more word salad. So Kamala Harris went to the Philadelphia Economic Club. If you recall, Donald Trump also went to the New York Economic Club. And what you see with Donald Trump, he's laying out policy on the border, laying out foreign policy, laying out policy on tariffs, on taxes, no tax on tips. I'm not going to tax your overtime. I'm not going to tax social security. He's coming out with ideas left and right. And that's what
Starting point is 00:10:52 happened at the New York Economic Club. And he took questions. And you might not have loved his answers, or maybe you did. But this is what Kamala Harris gave the Philadelphia Economic Club a couple days ago. Listen. And we need to guard that spirit. We have to guard that spirit. Let it always inspire us. Let it always be the source of our optimism, which is that spirit that is so uniquely American. And let that then inspire us by helping us to be inspired to solve the problems that so many face, including our small business owners. What the hell is that? I mean, that, you know, policies that are going to I mean, policies that are going to inspire us. You're talking to allegedly smart economic people in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:11:59 How dare you come and talk just drivel to them? I think it was to your original point, it's just this meandering word count that she tries to put out with no actual substance or meaning or policy in any of it. Yeah, and dad, you know, I, it can be, it's sort of laughable to listen to her meander through these speeches. I mean, completely fail at putting a coherent sentence together. But weak leaders and incompetent leaders, they get people killed. I mean, that it's actually very dangerous. I mean, we might not not love that she's radically pro-choice abortion up until birth. We might not like that she's part of the climate cult and all these other things.
Starting point is 00:12:41 But but when it comes down to it, there are life or death situations here on the line with Kamala Harris. And the biggest thing for me, Dad, is her support of the military industrial complex, her support of continuing to fuel this war in Ukraine. Another $8 billion she and Biden are sending. I think it was already announced today. It might be announced tomorrow. $8 billion to be announced for Ukraine again. And we are on the brink of World War Three when we antagonize Putin with potentially, you know, long ranging missiles into the heart of Russia. Western missiles. Putin has said if that happens, America and NATO, you are at war with Russia. This is so serious and so dangerous. And she is completely captured by the permanent state, which feeds off of war, which makes money off of the loss of
Starting point is 00:13:30 innocent lives. So I don't dispute that, Avita, but I think there's even something more serious in regard to her candidacy. And it's that if you're just a name on a ballot, and you stand up and tell the American people nothing, you put words together that make sentences, yes, and then have paragraphs, but don't really say anything, the real people running your campaign, which is the media or the Obama staffers behind you, when you win, because it wasn't your campaign, you were just the name, you're then not the president, right? Someone else is going to run the country on your behalf. And I think this is the biggest thing that's happened with Joe Biden and now with Kamala,
Starting point is 00:14:17 is that we're electing presidents who don't actually run the country. Maybe it's happened even before that. Maybe it's happened for decades with presidents, where you have staffers that are making decisions that are, to your point, life and death, and massive economic decisions that affect the fortunes of the small businesses and middle class Americans in this country. And we don't know who they are. We never voted for them. But they're the ones that run the country. And this is just my experience in Congress. So when I ran, you were there, mom was there.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I talked to a lot of people. I heard what they had to say. I told them what I wanted to do. I won, I go to Washington and I hire a staff. The staff comes in later. And if I was completely hands-off, the staff that I hired, though they were excellent and I love them all to death, this is not a slam on them, but they would do things that didn't fit our district. They would do things that weren't consistent with what I had told the voters because they weren't in those conversations. And I heard conservatives, so they might have done more conservative things than maybe I had
Starting point is 00:15:30 talked about with my voters. And I was the rudder of sanity in my office. The buck stopped with me. I took their ideas in, we'd debate, but in the end, it's my name on the door. I call the shots. And if you don't have a president that calls the shots in a massive bureaucracy of the federal government, and you have all these staffers, these appointees running the government, they want to accomplish to accomplish their political ends. And that's what concerns me about the Kamala Harris campaign, which is not a leader, not someone with great vision for where they want to take the country. They're a name on the ballot. Yeah, no, I think that's a great point. And, you know, we talked a lot about we're talking a lot about Kamala today. And you mentioned your staff. And it got me thinking about about Congress's role in all of this, because, you know, a lot of the bad things that the Biden
Starting point is 00:16:37 has done is enabled by bad leadership in the House. And you were there. I want to be a straight shooter about this. I think we can criticize our own side here. I'd love to know from you what you think is going on with Mike Johnson, because the Biden admin can, you know, fuel this war in Ukraine all at once and puts all its eggs in Zelensky's baskets and continues to get people killed. But Congress is why we're sending money to Ukraine still. Zelensky, I'm sorry, Mike Johnson said previously before he became speaker, I don't support sending more money to Ukraine. And then he becomes speaker. He goes into a secret meeting with some feds and decides, OK, yeah, we're going to send more money to Ukraine. Same with FISA, warrantless surveillance on American citizens in that act. He said,
Starting point is 00:17:22 I don't support warrantless surveillance on American citizens. He goes into a meeting with some feds. Suddenly he comes out. He says, okay, yeah, we're going to have warrantless surveillance on Americans. He said, I was going to release all the January 6 tapes. Where are they? We have no idea what happens.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Countless people have been prosecuted, put behind bars without any of the evidence given to them because Mike Johnson has not released all the footage. So my question to you, dad, as somebody who was there, what's going on with Mike Johnson? Help me understand how somebody can get into a position of power and flip-flop and somebody who's on our side, we can criticize common, we can criticize Biden, but what is happening with our own side, Mike Johnson, and they're aiding the Biden admin in burning this country to the ground. No, I think it's a good point. Listen, Mike Johnson is a good man.
Starting point is 00:18:07 He's a good Christian family man. I believe that through and through. You may disagree with me on that. But as a human being, as a man, as a family man, he's a good guy. Here's what I think happens though. You can be an average member of Congress like he was, not a real leadership position,
Starting point is 00:18:26 and you speak freely for yourself and your constituents. When you become the speaker, all of a sudden the weight of that role sits far heavier on someone's shoulders. And so when, as you say, the feds come in and they brief you and they're like, oh, Speaker Johnson, I know you talked about doing this when you were just a rank and file member of the Congress. But now, as a speaker, let us read you in on what's really going to happen if you don't fund this war in Ukraine. And let me tell you what's going to happen if you don't allow us to continue with, is it CISA? Let me tell you what the grave consequences that will come to this nation if you defund this organization that spies and censors on the American people. And by doing that, they scare the crap out of him.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And he's like, oh, I guess I didn't realize that. And I better change my vote. Now, I think that comes from the very nature that he didn't grow up in power, right? Which is why people criticize Kevin McCarthy. But Kevin McCarthy was the whip. The whip is the third in line in leadership. And after being the whip, he became the leader of the Republican party. That's the,
Starting point is 00:19:52 that's the next level up. And he did that, he did that for years. And after doing that for years, then he became the speaker. So he had 14 years of dealing with leadership, dealing with the briefings, seeing the BS and maybe not perfect, but was far better able to navigate the pressure from the feds when they sat him down and tried to BS him to snow him. When you get someone new in, I think they're far more easily snowed. Yeah. And I just like to say, I, you know, I'm somebody who I'm 24. I was not in in Congress like you were, I don't know how all these things always work, I think most people listening don't. chance at putting in somebody new who's better. And, and this could, this could turn, you know, I, I was sort of optimistic because everybody was, was saying that. And it turned out that everybody who was saying, no, you don't want to get rid of Kevin McCarthy was right. It did get worse. It did get way worse with Mike Johnson. And I, you know, I don't say that because I'm
Starting point is 00:20:58 like the biggest Kevin McCarthy fan, but like, wow, we would have been nice to have him back after Mike Johnson is completely, I think, abandoned the people. You might say, Dad, and you, you know, you think he's a good man. I think he's a family man. The Foreign Intelligence and Surveillance Act, FISA, is what allows the warrantless surveillance on Americans. Section 702. He allowed that. That is in brazen violation of the Constitution that we have an amendment for that. So if you're not upholding the Constitution
Starting point is 00:21:25 and you are greenlighting warrantless surveillance on Americans, I just I can't compute that. I don't think that you're a good guy. And I wonder, you know, are you compromised somehow? I mean, and you might not want to get into this. I'm your, you know, maybe. But I but I do feel like, you know, there's a lot of conversations happening right now with with this P. Diddy scandal. Sean P. Diddy Combs has been arrested for sex trafficking and potential potential sexual blackmail ring. And he had a very cozy relationship with the Obamas and other politicians. And I'm not saying Mike Johnson is compromised by P. Diddy at all. There's no evidence of that. But what I'm saying is that there are a lot of slimy,
Starting point is 00:22:10 shady things that happened in Washington and a lot of people are compromised and they aren't acting in the interest of the people like you were when you were in Congress because they are compromised by the feds. And I just I wonder how much of that is happening. And it makes you think, do we have any power at all as people? And we? I mean, this Peter D. Combs case is really reflecting Jeffrey Epstein, who we know was highly likely an intelligence asset, who was having blackmail on tons of powerful people in our country, including politicians. It makes you feel like the people have no power. So I don't think he's compromised. I think he's getting snowed, is what I think is happening. But it comes back to this other point on the Congress, and we're getting a little off track. But I think it's important to recognize that, as you mentioned, the power of the purse sits within the Congress. exercise the power of the purse. They'll say, listen, I'm sorry, Secret Service or Department of Homeland Security, you're not going to provide us the information that we requested in regard to
Starting point is 00:23:12 the assassination attempt on Donald Trump on July 13th. Really? Well, guess what's going to happen? You're going to have a 10% haircut. 10%. Now, you'd be like, you'd tell me that's not enough. I'm just saying, tell them 5%. We're going to cut your budget by 5%. And you actually do it. Guess what happens? When you make a threat to any agency, guess what they're going to do? They're going to comply. Because they know that Congress is serious about holding them to account with money. And the only way they function is when Congress gives them the money to function. There's no requirement that these agencies be funded. The Congress funds them every year.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And when they refuse to do that, they give up all their power. But that's not the only thing. There was a time, probably back in the 60s and 70s and maybe even into the 80s, where even though Democrats and Republicans bickered and had different viewpoints, it wasn't as partisan as it is today, but it was still partisan. When issues came up with regard to the Congress and the executive branch complying with requests that came from the Congress, everybody stood together. Republicans and Democrats stood together and Republicans would stand against a Republican administration and Democrats would stand against a Democrat administration to make sure the Congress was a balance on their power. And today what we see is, well, if it's my president, I don't want to join
Starting point is 00:24:46 the Democrats in holding my president to account to make sure we get that information. And Democrats now won't do the same thing to Joe Biden. And so when you have the parties divided, the Congress has no power, which is why Mayorkas had a hearing on the botched Afghanistan withdrawal this week earlier and just doesn't show up. He's like, hold me in contempt. I don't really care. You're right. You're going to cut my funding.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Good luck with that. The FBI, you can spy on people. You can arrest people for political purposes. Not only are we not going to cut your budget, we're going to build you a brand spanking new multibillion dollar FBI office in Maryland. That's what we're going to do for you. That's your reward, which is why the Congress has no power. And the founders were brilliant to say, we need to have checks and balances in this government. And the Congress, because it's dysfunction, has not been an effective check. And I, so I see, I see that as the real problem
Starting point is 00:25:45 here and I don't see any end in sight. Um, which is why the executive branch has become just this behemoth that's funded by the, these continuing resolutions that continually fund, um, these agencies at, at, at, at prior year levels. Rachel would probably swap me right now. You can't because you're my daughter. But what I'll tell you is with regard to the, we pass a budget, but there's 13 appropriations bills that fund the government that we're supposed to pass, that Congress is supposed to pass every year.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And they haven't gotten it done in like 40 years. It never gets done. They have to revamp the system. Maybe do, it's got to be not a one-year budget window, a two-year budget window where they actually legislate line by line all these agencies and how they get funded and funded for what. That would fix a lot of it. We'll be right back with much more after this. Kudlow on Fox Business is now on the go for podcast fans. Get key interviews with the biggest business newsmakers of the day. The Kudlow podcast will be available on the go after the show every weekday at FoxBusinessPodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts.
Starting point is 00:26:58 And can I just say, I think that people are not, I think increasingly American people are more used to this, but certainly not members of Congress, of doing what you just said, of just cutting the funding of these agencies, using the power of the purse. It was revealed this summer that the Army had a training slideshow that they gave to over around 10,000 soldiers over the last seven years that identified pro-life groups, including National Right to Life and pro-life ideology as terrorist ideation. And those pro-life groups were terrorist organizations, terrorists. That's the word that they use, terrorist. And Congress called them all in. Matt Gaetz had some viral videos trying to question these, you know, these lieutenants about what was going on. Nobody was held accountable. They wouldn't answer any questions. And it makes you think,
Starting point is 00:27:50 okay, well, we can't cut funding to the army because the army keeps it safe. But then you think, okay, what's the job of the army? The job of the army is to keep us safe. And if they're teaching their soldiers to view the people as threats, when suddenly the threat's not enemies abroad, it's us, it's regular Americans, half the country, church-going, right-wing Americans. And they are psychologically prepping those soldiers to turn their guns on citizens if they're identifying people in this country, pro-lifers, as terrorists. Suddenly, they're not entitled to our money because there's no point in funding people who actually are threats to us. And I think that needs to be the shift. What's their job? Are they fulfilling their job? And are they actually doing the opposite of their job? Okay. Then they don't deserve our money. That's a, that's a very good point. And just on, on the budget side,
Starting point is 00:28:37 not only do, does the Congress fund, but the con the Congress can fund and limit. does the Congress fund, but the Congress can fund and limit. So it can say, we're going to give you a billion dollars, but none of this money can be used for, and then you can specify all these things. So they'll try to do a workaround to show the videos that you just referenced to say that pro-lifers are terrorists. But if you have smart drafting, you will make sure that not one cent can be used inside the army for any of those programs but that takes time and which is why a lot of people say we want term limits in congress and term limits fine but i want some old crusty dogs inside the congress as well who know how to not be duped and snowed and know how to write policy and legislation to make sure that the mission of the Congress is actually accomplished
Starting point is 00:29:31 in the language of the bills that are written. And it's not just outsourced to staff. But I want to pivot back to Kamala Evita because, again, she's done this little dance where she's tried to be like, you know, let's flip the page on Donald Trump. We're not going to go back, everybody. We're not going to go back to Donald Trump. But she's been in office for the last three and a half years. And she hasn't dissed Joe Biden. She hasn't given herself an arm's length from Joe Biden and Joe Biden's policies. But by the way she's talking, it seems like she's going to do things differently when she has power, like she has no power as the vice president.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And this dance has kind of been has been somewhat working with the help of the media, building out this message that she's going to be something new than what we've seen and been so angry about over the last three and a half years. Well, Joe Biden, like only the buffoon Joe Biden can do, decided he would talk about Kamala Harris on The View in regard to what her role was in his administration. Let's take a listen. And as vice president, there wasn't a single thing that I did that she couldn't do. And so I was able to delegate her responsibility on everything from foreign policy to domestic policy. She's responsible for everything in foreign policy and domestic policy. So everything that I've done, actually, it was Kamala who did all of this for you. We can we can Biden such a bad rap. I mean, the guy's clearly senile.
Starting point is 00:31:07 He's losing it. But he's definitely mad about what they did to him. And so in a very, you know, sly way, he's like, Kamala, she's so great. I put her in charge of everything. Foreign policy, domestic policy, the inflationary economy, the brink of World War III. It's all Kamala. She's so awesome. It was it was actually very smart of Biden. It was you know what he he had a smile on his face and he just knifed her in the back. And again, you have to imagine that
Starting point is 00:31:39 Kamala's team is scrambling to try to deal with the clip of Joe Biden saying she's so great. scrambling to try to deal with the clip of Joe Biden saying, she's so great. She's so smart. I had to do foreign policy and domestic policy. Borders are, she did it all. She did it all. You got to love her. Well, just as a prediction here, I don't think that we're going to see any change in Kamala's messaging. She's going to tell us nothing that she's going to do and hope that we buy it. And again, I hope the American people are smarter than that. Can I just bring up one other last point with you, Evita, before we have to run? So Kamala Harris is saying, listen, we've got a problem with housing and we do have a problem in housing. Homes cost too much money, right? There's a reason for that. People aren't selling their homes because they have really low interest rates.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And so they don't want to sell them and get a new house that has a much higher interest rates. So there's a lack of supply in the market for home sales. But also with rentals, rentals, the price to rent a home has gone up astronomically around the country. And it's the illegals. Right. We're going to come to that. Right. You're exactly right. So Kamala's plan to deal with the supply problem. So you have supply and demand. She's like, we have a supply problem. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to give all new home purchasers $25,000 towards their down payment. So you're not dealing with a supply. What you're dealing with is the demand and giving people
Starting point is 00:33:13 $25,000, you're going to only increase the demand for housing by giving everyone $25,000 to buy a house and the prices of homes are going to go up even further if you want to deal with a supply problem to your point of vita we've had what 15 18 million people come into this country under joe biden and all these people don't live in tents guess where and some of them live in hotels in the short term but then they all get homes, apartments. So the supply problem has been taken up by all these illegals who have been, who come into the country. Oftentimes the government is paying for their rent and the American people are also trying to rent those same places and they can't afford to compete with the government. And it should be so infuriating to regular Americans everywhere
Starting point is 00:34:05 because we have our own homeless that are out on the street and we have illegals in housing paid for by the taxpayers. Our own people are on the streets. Ours are, the legals are in housing. Your right is bringing up the price of rent. I'd also say that we have, on the topic of housing, tons of private equity firms coming in and buying up single family homes. And the person, surprise, surprise, that is overwhelmingly supported by big banks in this
Starting point is 00:34:31 country, big financial firms, is Kamala and Biden, overwhelmingly over Trump. So I don't really want to hear it from her about housing, about rent. She's on this, ironically, on the side of big firms over, you know, small town USA, over Main Street, war over peace. She's completely flip-flopped on her own party's ideals of what the left is supposed to stand for. Things that I could actually get behind. I may not approve of the way that we get there, but the idea of peace over war, I may not approve of the way that we get the way that we get there. But the idea of peace over war. Yeah, I totally agree with that. She's not for that.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And it makes me wonder a lot about the young people, because we kind of mentioned the coconut trend dance video that went viral. And it was not that long ago that young people in America were saying, I'm not going to vote for Joe Biden. He's genocide Joe. He's supporting Israel over Palestine. It doesn't matter what you think about that, that, you know, conflict. That's genocide Joe. He's supporting Israel over Palestine. It doesn't matter what you think about that, that, you know, conflict. That's what young people were saying. They were saying,
Starting point is 00:35:29 we're not going to vote for Joe Biden and Kamala in this election. Suddenly, the celebrity endorsements come in, the coconut dance trend comes out. She's saying she's the president of hope and change, even though she's currently VP. And suddenly all these young people flood in like bots in support of her. And there's a really famous singer that I know you don't know because you're, I don't know how old you're, you're a little older. Chapel Rowan, very famous singer. I do. He has come out. Never heard. Do you know who Chapel Rowan is? Didn't know his name. It's a she. It's a she. Chapel Rowan is a girl. Chapel Rowone actually, just as an aside, is loved by Michael for whatever reason. She's this like very teeny bopper girl singer, but Michael loves her music.
Starting point is 00:36:10 She's actually a good singer, very left-wing girl. And as all these celebrities have come in to endorse Kamala, she said, I can't participate in this two-party system. I'm going to vote for Kamala. I don't like Trump, but I'm not going to endorse kamala because i don't want my brand and my name associated with somebody that i don't really i can't really get behind that i think is associated with genocide that i you know that i feel like i don't have like a sufficient option between these two people and to me i think that's a very reasonable take from a celebrity i prefer
Starting point is 00:36:38 they just say nothing um and not endorse these candidates when it i mean they are completely out of touch with normal american life and the bot fans that just previously were calling for genocide Joe and saying they're not going to vote for him have jumped down Chapel Rowan's throat and have disavowed her, called on her to, you know, endorse Kamala or lose all of her fans. They're never going to play her music again. It's just, to me, feels so creepy. Are bot fans not real people? No, I mean, I'm saying that they act like bots because they're all so hyper obsessed with the Kamala campaign as if they're obsessed with somebody's propaganda. It's just very bizarre to me that these young people are not free thinking at all. And they got the regime orders
Starting point is 00:37:24 that suddenly we're all going to support Kamala and they just fall straight in line. And they put up with these online struggle sessions for anybody who dares dissent. So if I can just talk about the youth vote for a second. So we had talked in the past about how when Joe Biden was in the race, the youth vote for Democrats was collapsing. Right. I mean, it's the youth vote usually votes in very high percentages. It's probably 65, 35 for the Democrats. That had collapsed for Joe Biden. Well, Kamala gets in the race, and those numbers have recovered, Evita, as to your point. But tell me if this is true or not. What I've heard is, when you look at the numbers, you break them down. The female
Starting point is 00:38:05 numbers of young people, 18 to 29, that are going to vote for Kamala, they've completely recovered. She's going to crush that vote of young women 18 to 29 years old. However, the young men who traditionally also vote Democrat in past elections, they have completely bailed on the Democrat party. And I don't know if that's Jordan Peterson or Joe Rogan or Dan Bongino, but you have a lot of strong men who are talking to young men about what it means to be a man. These young men are, they're toxic masculinity and they're demonized and they're shunned and they're put in the back of the classroom. And everything about them has been set aside. And I think they're angry about it.
Starting point is 00:38:53 And when they listen to other men on podcasts, they're inspired to be real men. And they're so angry at what Democrats have done, whether it's, you know, men and girls sports and the demonization of of of their gender, that they're rebelling. Is you seeing the same thing? Yeah, no, it's it's 100 percent an issue. So just for the for the data on this, there is no generation. Like Gen Z, when it comes to the political gap between men and women. Gen Z men and women are the most disparate. As you get, you know, millennials, the boomers, the silent gen, Gen Xers, they're all much closer together. There's a growing divide between the two. And I do believe that men are feeling really marginalized in society, especially actually
Starting point is 00:39:46 white men, because white men are discriminated against when it comes to the admissions process, when it comes to jobs and scholarships. And they just feel like they none of this is speaking to them. The the the culture, the system, especially the Kamala campaign. They tried to release this white dudes for Kamala video that completely flopped. It was very demeaning. And I don't I don't. And actually, what's interesting is the Kamala campaign had a strategist. I forget her name, but she's a strategist for the Kamala campaign who was on video with kind of viral saying we have to make sure that men you know women men feel and uh not too marginalized and disempowered that they that they don't vote for comp that they get too upset and like vote in droves for trump but like we also want to make sure that like the women know kamala's girl power
Starting point is 00:40:38 moment and it's just not a message that resonates with men it it didn't work when i'm with her with hillary and i think ultimately that might be her death sentence kamala i mean we'll have more of just not a message that resonates with men. It didn't work when I'm with her with Hillary. And I think ultimately that might be her death sentence. Kamala, I mean. We'll have more of this conversation after this. I think that, again, Hillary Clinton was not likable, but is Hillary Clinton smart? Hillary Clinton is a smart woman. And I think she was a tough woman. And I think she was a tough woman and I think she was a crooked woman. Um, Kamala, if, if, if I was a woman, I, and I'm, I'm not, so I'm just trying to think if I was though, if I was a woman, I would go, listen, I do believe a woman can be president, but I also think that that woman is a strong, competent, capable woman who can talk about policy. They can talk about ideas. It can talk about vision for the country. Margaret Thatcher was that right. If you're a woman and you're like,
Starting point is 00:41:31 this is, this is the best we can do for women to be our, our nominee for the presidency is Kamala Harris, who has to do her first interview with her white running mate and, um, can't sit down by herself in an interview. She needs a crutch and a cradle to talk to the American people. And then when she does talk to them, she's not confident enough to lay out her vision and policy for this country. If I was a woman, I'd be offended by that. I'd be like, this is not who we are. We're actually
Starting point is 00:42:02 capable and competent to have this lead role in the country. And she's not representing us well. What say you, Evita? No, I think that's a great assessment. And I do think it's going to backfire on her. I know you probably want to wrap up this podcast, but I want to ask you about something else that happened this week. Alex Soros met with Tim Walalsh and obviously alex soros is the son of george soros and tim walsh has been billed to all of us it's sort of on the topic of
Starting point is 00:42:32 like who the democrats represent right they had this white dudes for kamala you know campaign going on trying to get white men to uh you know support her and they're also trying to get midwesterners to support tim walsh by saying, he's this folksy guy. He's like, you know, your fun uncle. He's super down to earth and very rural and has this sort of America, apply over America sense to him. who's obviously his dad is funding the destruction of America by putting in these soft on crime DAs in cities across the country, including Midwestern countries that you might not even suspect, like Waukesha, where we had that horrible man drive through a parade and kill tons of people. Christmas parade massacre. Do you think that this Tim Walsh Midwestern vibe is going to win over Midwesterners in Wisconsin and Minnesota and Michigan? Or are people going to be able to see through that? So I know Midwestern men. I am one.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And Tim Walsh doesn't exude masculinity. He doesn't exude Midwestern-ess. Um, he's, he, uh, just the demeanor. I'm not, I want to leave. I don't want to say too much. I don't want to get in trouble to tampon. Tim is, is not what think of Hayward, Wisconsin or Wausau, Wisconsin, um, or, you know, Duluth, Minnesota, the tampon, Tim is not what Midwestern men, Wisconsin, or Duluth, Minnesota. Tampon Tim is not what Midwestern men, how they talk, what they care about, how they look, and the policies that they fight for.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Midwestern men actually stand up for their communities. They stand up for their families. If someone comes to burn their town, they're the first ones on the streets pushing back on those who want to burn their communities. Tim Walz applauded the burning of his cities. He is nothing like what the Midwestern man is. And I think your point, he probably has more in common with Alex Soros and a skyscraper in New York City than he does with the Midwest. and a skyscraper in New York City than he does with the Midwest. They also sent him, he was in Wausau, my hometown when I was in Congress.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I was in Wausau and also in Hayward, which you were in both as well, Evita. He went there to try to rally the rural vote. And I was like, Tim, in Minnesota alone, the only reason he won as governor is the Minneapolis-St. Paul metro area is deep blue. And they voted for Tim Walz. But if you look at the state of Minnesota, the whole state's almost red. It's all red except for this blue dot of Minneapolis and St. Paul. Rural Minnesota hates him. Rural Wisconsin doesn't like him.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Minnesotans are moving to Wisconsin because his policies are so bad in Minnesota. And by the way, Wisconsin's not that great either. But even though Wisconsin's not that great, it's better than Minnesota. And over they come. And so, yeah, no, I don't think that resonates. And again, what Democrats do is like, oh, the rich and the powerful are so evil. You made the point. If you look at where big Wall Street gives their money, they love Democrats. They hate Democrat policies, but they love Democrats. What they often do is they'll be like, give all their money to elect Democrats. And then Democrats propose really bad policies. And then Wall Street comes to Republicans
Starting point is 00:46:01 and go, oh, that's going to be bad for the economy we have to stop this and eventually in my office i said listen don't come talk to me you elected these people you go to the democrat offices and talk to them i'm i if this is what you want it's bad for your business i don't care you put them there you funded them um and, and again, they, they, they hate, they hate the rich, but it's the rich, it's the rich Californians and New Yorkers that are funneling money into Wisconsin. And I mean, the Democrats in Wisconsin, which is a swing state have tons of money, but the money isn't Wisconsin money. It's all the coastal money that don't have races themselves. Their states aren't competitive. So they're trying to buy the state of Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And truly, Wisconsin, for the most part, is raising, the Republican Party is raising their money from Wisconsinites. And again, they love to rally against the rich, but love the rich money. And by the way, when that money comes, they're going to do what the rich want when they're in office. It sort of reminds me of when I was in Kenosha, Wisconsin during the BLM rioting, and black or white, didn't matter. The local Kenoshans were beside themselves, but the people that burned down their city. And the people that burned down their city were professional rioters who came in with fireworks and explosions and, you know, all of these weaponry from Portland, from other left-wing states and cities to destroy
Starting point is 00:47:41 a Midwestern town that they had no connection to. And it feels a lot like that when we think about the Democrats who come in with all this money and they rally for soft-on-crime DAs or they try to help raise money in our state for people that are actively trying to destroy it. And I think Tony Evers is that way. I think Tim Walz is that way. And they really have no connection to the regular people that I grew up around and you grew up around. And the policies of the Democrat Party, if we can even call them policies, do not resonate with middle America, which is why I think the polls are wrong right now.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I think Trump is doing far better than the polls would let on. Only time will tell. Ballots are starting to go out in key states, like in Wisconsin. I believe they're starting in Pennsylvania as well, Michigan too. So we're going to keep following the story. Evita, thank you for filling in for mom today, who is out of pocket. I appreciate that last minute call. I'm going to jump on. We can catch your show. It's live every day at 9 a.m. Eastern. Where can we find it? So I'm on Apple, Spotify, and Rumble. I'm live on Rumble at 9 a.m. Eastern time, five days a week, and then shortly after that, it will be uploaded on my Spotify and Apple every day. I love it. Oh, and it's called Bungina Report Early Edition with Evita.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Love it. It's a great show. If you haven't checked it out, do so. Evita breaks down the news of the day, the five, six, seven stories that are important that you have to know about. You get that early dose with her. Nine o'clock Eastern every morning. Evita, thank you for being with me.
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