From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Goya Foods CEO On Finding Purpose In Life

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

For countless families in America, Goya Foods has been a go-to company for decades — in large part because of the quality, dependability, and mission that lies at the heart of the company. This, in large part, is due to Goya's CEO, Bob Unanue, who has ensured that Goya Foods stays committed to serving families, being there for the community, and giving back. However, in a world where division, loneliness, and mental health struggles are consuming younger generations — these cornerstones are becoming rare to see in both companies and individuals. Today, Bob joins Sean and Rachel to discuss what he believes has contributed to this massive societal problem, and why he believes rediscovering the value of faith, family, and work could be the key to rediscovering purpose in America. Follow Sean & Rachel on X: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So you can look and feel good about gifting and wearing them. Shop your wishlist 25% off at Mijeri.com today. Hey everybody, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, the one, the only, Rachel Campbell-Stuffy. Sean, it's so great to be back at our kitchen table and to invite to the table a friend of ours. I had him on Fox & Friends. We had to have him on the podcast. He's going to be honored this week at a gala that I'm going to attend for an organization called Hope Through Education that is partnering with Bob Yunanwe. He's the CEO of Goya Foods and his organization, Goya Cares.

I'm just going to give a little bit of background for those who don't know. Of course, he's a giant in the food industry in the United States, but he also comes with such a unique perspective on America and especially on just the battle that we're in. And it's more than political, which is why I love the title of his new book, Bless Donald Trump and the Spiritual War, How the Battle for the Country Began with One Word. So let's just, with no further ado, bring Bob on. Bob, thanks for joining us this morning. Thank you, Rachel and Sean.

You know, you guys are an incredible, beautiful couple and an inspiration for all of us and with beautiful children. And, you know, it's all about family. It's about God, family, work, you know, our freedom. And, you know, you just personify all of that. And it's just, you know, you are both and your family is such a blessing. Thank you. Bob, what is the word? What is that? What what you say, how the battle for the country began with one word in your book? What is that word? Oh, the word is blessed. And that word I was was at the White House at Rose Garden on July 9th, 2020, to be named the commissioner on the White House Commission for Hispanic Prosperity.

By the way, I was fired by the Biden administration. I guess they don't like Hispanics, but or prosperity for Hispanics. I think they hate prosperity more than Hispanics. for his or I think they hate prosperity more than Hispanics yes they're both and you know that we'll get into that later but the the the largest victim of uh of uh trafficking it's a Latino and it's such an incredible industry that is just uh taking oh it's just blowing up and then we can talk about that. But the word is blessed. And that word was placed on my list by the Holy Spirit. And I was actually there not to be a commissioner, but, you know, we were all in our bunkers. There was no food. Our business was working because we're an essential business. But this is during the pandemic, correct?

business. This is during the pandemic, correct? July 9th, yes, and July 9th in 2020. And, you know, we're an essential business, but work is essential. You need a purpose to get up every day. God, family, work. And I wanted to give the country food because the food banks were empty, people were hoarding, there were issues around the world. So I offered 2 million pounds, it turned out to be 5 million pounds that year, we give millions of pounds away every year, but especially in COVID. And, you know, because they were killing our spirit and our reason to get up. So I wanted to offer that gift through the Chief the uh chief executive which is donald j trump i had been with uh the obamas with uh let's move and their my plate initiative which goes to the the nutritional pyramid and and portion control so i had you know been with michelle obama i've been with uh barack

uh i actually introduced him at one point and and I wanted to go through Donald Trump to offer the food and also to help him get closer to the Latino community. Because we are the second largest Hispanic Latino community in the world after Mexico. And we will be the biggest group. So we have a say. And hopefully what unites us in our values will help lead this country closer to God. But the Holy Spirit put the word blessed on my lips. And I said, we're blessed with Donald Trump was a builder. And and all hell broke loose. All hell broke loose. You know, AOC wanted Lin-Manuel Miranda, Julian Castro. They all call for boycotts. And my friend, Eric Bolling, his producer,

put together a GoFundMe and he raised over $300,000, did a video and went out there and exposed what they were doing to us. And it created a boycott. And I talked to so many people said, hey, I went out and I bought your product. I said, oh, so you were responsible. But everybody responded because we were there just to do a good thing. But the main thing that happened was the Holy Spirit put that word on my lips and to put it on Donald Trump. And I believe God placed his hand on Donald Trump at that moment as, as a person, to lead this country closer to God. And quite honestly, I think he's most capable of it. He gets up every day for the battle. And I

think his hand, God's hand stayed on Donald Trump on July 13th at 6.11 in the afternoon, when he called to Ephesians and says, put on the armor of God, and he turned his head. At the moment, a bullet was heading perpendicular to his head. It went parallel and grazed him. And that was the hand of God. Yeah, you know, Bob, I wanted to comment on a couple of things you said. I didn't know Goya. Rachel obviously didn't. I ate Goya food, comment on a couple things you said. I didn't know Goya. Rachel obviously didn't. I ate Goya food, but I wasn't familiar with the brand until the buycott. And I was like, do we eat Goya? And Rachel's like, of course we eat Goya. What kind of home do you think we live in here? But I wasn't aware of the brand truly until, I mean, sorry. And again, I-

The gringos are so clueless in my house. I was Bob. And so again, when I, when I buy, um, I buy Goya. I just after that, that was so offensive. One of the point I want to make is you can't stand that point too. It was, it's so interesting. Cause I grew up on Goya, obviously Hispanic home. Um, my mother, I didn't need you to tell me that Goya has the best canned beans because my mother would always say Goya's are the best. And I always bought Goya, but I have nine kids, right? So if something was on sale, I was going to get that instead. But it did tick me off so much that now to this day, I still, even if the other things are on sale, I'm just going to get Goya. And boy, just seeing the egg on AOC's face, it was just so delicious with that boycott.

She got the employee of the month, I think, I think she said about. But also you mentioned purpose in life through work. And it made me think during COVID, a lot of my colleagues and friends and people that I know all on Zoom, all of them, not all of them, many of them started drinking, right?

They started, they're drinking wine and drinks at night because they had less purpose. And you can see that when you don't work, work keeps there's a kind of work in faith. Keep you somewhat on a straight line. You take those away and people start to do things that are far more destructive. But I want to come to this. I don't see you as a political guy, Bob. Obviously, you're with the Obamas. You're't see you as a political guy, Bob. Obviously, you're with the Obamas, you're with Trump. You're a guy who believes in family and you believe in

freedom. And any person or any party that's going to stand up for family freedom and maybe first, I should say, freedom of faith, Goya and Bob, you're not always going to support and get behind. And I love that about you. It's not about a party badge. It's about concepts that make families and countries successful. Yes, and it's the values that unite the Latino community. And hopefully everybody, but you're 100% right. When this COVID hit, it killed our spirits, our reason to get up every day. And work is one of those reasons.

Why do we educate ourselves so that we can, you know, we have our talents. God gives us these talents. And what do we do with it? We'll be measured by what we do with it. But the, you know, during COVID, I ran into Eduardo Berastegui, who's an incredible director and actor who did The Sound of Freedom and Jim Caviezel. And so I was at an activity at the White House in the Hispanic Heritage Month with President Trump, who had this, I don't know, this small restaurant in Miami up for the prize. And we're sitting there, you know, we weren't we weren't too shabby ourselves as a Hispanic company.

And it's another reason I wanted to get closer to the president to say, hey, you know, the future of this country is going to be in the Hispanic community. So with this, he turned me on to this trafficking thing. The Sound of Freedom was about, you know, and Jim played by Jim Caviezel. And it was dead in the water, was owned by Disney. It was, we bought it, I got involved, we bought it out at Disney and Angel Studios eventually picked it up at like seven years. This is seven years in the making. And it was a big, a big success. But out of Goya Care and the trafficking, also there was the byproduct, which is so terrible, is the mental health. Our children, they're not feeling valued.

And so what we've been doing is putting together these videos. One of them is press pause to stop a moment. And if someone's being bullied to say hey wait a minute leave this kid alone uh he she value is is is uh uh matter you matter and so but and i have six kids i have 14 grandkids my 15th underway and uh so one of my grandchildren was kind of harming themselves. They weren't feeling valued. And I was wondering what's happening. Like you say, Sean, you know, when we're sitting in our bunkers and the government says, just sit there, you don't need, we'll take care of you. You have no reason to get up. It's really communism. You know, the harder you work, it doesn't matter if you're a doctor or a lawyer or sweeping the floor. You're going to get the

same pay, but it's the few controlling the many. They want to buy our souls. They want to buy our hearts and take away our reason to get up our purpose. And so, you know, it's that being valued. You know, what gives us value is we're children of God. We're a gift from God. We're not a flag. We're not a letter. We're not a furry. You know, we're putting value on because we don't feel valued.

We want to be part of a LGBTQ plus minus divided by, it doesn't matter. Even the letters fight. The flag, there's map flags, minor attracted people. So even a pedophile has their flag. The problem is we're putting value in things that aren't good, that aren't, you know, not in each other. And if you don't feel valued, how can you love God and love your neighbor as yourself if you're not even loving yourself? So, so many children, there was a story last year, I believe it was, this young girl, her girlfriend was dating somebody, the boyfriend. They split. She wanted to date the boyfriend uh they started ganging up on her the the group sent her a selfie here we are all of us except for you and she killed herself and so at that

moment all it would take is for one in the group because they would be next let's say one in the group say leave her alone she matters you know to have the guts You don't have to go to the jungles of Columbia to save a child like Tim Ballard does. But for one child to stand up for the other can save a life. Imagine the power that you can, you know, you're not giving up your life, but you're having the courage, which comes from God and the Holy Spirit, to stand up. And we need to do that as a country. We're not going to church. We're not valuing ourselves. We need to move closer to God.

And that's why this book, Bless, is about, you know, it's on Donald Trump, who was saying we need to value ourselves. We need to keep people out of this country that want to do us harm. Let's bring in people who want to work and we're a country of immigrants. Yeah. Well, Bob, you know, you're, you talk about the battle ahead and when you have an election ahead of us just a couple months now, I mean, we've already seen it. You already alluded earlier to the attempted assassination on Donald Trump, things that seemed unthinkable and downright weird, like replacing a president, you know, we had a debate in July, which we never have a debate in, or in June, I'm sorry.

And that was the earliest we've ever seen a presidential debate in modern history. Then they replace the candidate. Then we get Kamala Harris, who's just another empty suit for whoever is running this country right now, which Sean and I would love to know who it is. And then we had the assassination. I mean, it's just one thing after another. And what I love about your focus, which is always on faith, is that you're very keenly aware that this is no longer just any old, you know, political season, that we are in a spiritual battle. And talk to me about what that means in terms of the election. What can we as Christians, what should we be thinking about?

What should we be doing? Because I think there's going to be a lot of volatility in the next couple of months. And it's going to test people's faith in God, faith in our country. Talk to me about that. Well, Rachel, yeah, I think valuing life, valuing each other, love and build. You know, the Cuban poet, Jose Martí said, you have two options, those who are born to love and build others and create others to hate, divide, destroy. And, you know, when you look at what's happened from day one,

this administration, besides all the inflation that they caused by, you know, the Keystone Pipeline, having a war on fossil fuels, the Green New Deal, but the weakness and withdrawal from Afghanistan and the 13 soldiers that were killed thating each other then then our weakness there allowed putin or incentivized putin to go into ukraine that ukraine was a bread basket for europe and africa that they're 30 of the world's uh wheat 20 of the world's corn 50 of the world's fertilizer it tripled the value but the biggest thing that's happened in this administration, where the borders are and opening up our borders, is the industry of trafficking and drugs

has just exploded. The biggest victim is the Latino community and Black community. The 75% women, 25% children. But we've allowed, you know, all this. It's funny. What are the main topics in this election? It's economy and it's border.

And then down the road, it's abortion. And they use abortion in the 22. And, you know, they're so good at spinning and and that the smoke screen we we can argue all day six weeks 15 weeks but once the child is born and it is a child there we're not valuing that life we're exploiting the the ages of children being sold the the thing is, in other countries, Central America, South America, they're selling the children for pennies on the dollar. They're sold to the cartels. The cartels are selling them to us. Under HHS ORR, Tara Lee wrote us last April 26, 2023, testified that there were 85,000 children missing, that the U.S. was the middleman,

the virtual middleman, in selling these kids to sponsors, foster care sponsors. There's a gal testifying the horrific story of kids being abused. But from infants to any age, we're not valuing life. We're exploiting, we're destroying, we're abusing our children. And in the Bible, it says, you know, Jesus says, let the children come to me

for the kingdom of God is for such as these. And we are not loving our children. We're not caring about it. We're not valuing our children. We're not valuing each other. That is a spiritual war that we're in. And Kamala Harris, Kamala or Kamala or whatever you want to say. Kamala. She was in charge of the border. So was the president. So was Javier Becerra, Secretary of HHS, Health and Human Services. So was Alejandro Mayorkas

in charge of this. And who knows who's profited from this? There's dark money. Such a great point, Bob. The irony, right? It is mainly Hispanic children who are being trafficked. It is mostly Hispanic children among the 300,000 that have been lost. And it has happened under the watch and direction of two Hispanics, Alejandro Mayorkas and Javier Becerra. And if you recall, Javier Becerra, actually, what he told his, he was caught on a Zoom call talking to his staff. And he said, you know, we just got to process these people quicker we just got to process henry ford would be embarrassed he said henry ford yeah they're just widgets and if and if they get if you get a log jam at at the border or in el paso that you

know that could attract the press that's the he has. And so he's been processing so quick, just like the widgets on a factory floor, that we don't know who they're getting sent to. They're getting passed off to other illegals that have also come across the border illegally and are now coming to pick them up. And we don't know who those people are. Nobody's been vetted. It is evil, evil stuff. I love that you've taken on the topic of, you know, human sex trafficking, child sex trafficking. It's such a taboo subject because nobody wants to think about it. Nobody wants to talk about it. Nobody with a brand as big and celebrated as yours wants to, you know, risk the association with such an evil, you know, you know, even if you're trying to fight it, it's like, you don't want people thinking about, you know, sex trafficking and, and Goya products. And you're like, I don't care. I want my company to do what's right.

I want us to be involved in getting rid of something that it's quite possibly the most evil thing in the world. Yes. And it's amazing that so many people poo poo it. And, and this, you know, the two things the, the Jeannie said to Aladdin, never drink from the cups of money or power. You'll never be satisfied. This is about money. Everything moves by money and power control, staying in office, you know, to, to the few control the many. And what Tara Lee said last year, this last year was 85,000 children. Like you mentioned, now it's 325,000 children lost. And who knows if not more?

It's too big of a business. There's 40 kids being dropped at one address. It's not a home. It's a business for slavery, for sex, for body parts. We'll be right back with much more after this. This episode is brought to you by Mejuri. From November 25th to December 2nd, get 25% off everything on orders over $150 in Mejuri's biggest sale ever. From bold hoops to minimalist stacks, Mejuri has something for everyone.

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So we don't know the results. As this podcast comes out, the debate will just be beginning. But I want to go to the Hispanic vote and just kind of talk about the politics of what's happening with Hispanics. So Donald Trump in 16 was talking about securing the border and, you know, deporting people that are here in criminals. in the border and, you know, deporting people that, you know, are here and criminals. And, you know, his percent of the Hispanic vote increased in 2016 from that of Romney and McCain. And then in 2020, after four years in the presidency, his percent of the Hispanic vote increased even more. You got more Hispanic votes.

Right now, Bob, the polling, if correct, would tell us that Donald Trump is getting 45 to 50 percent of the Hispanic vote. And that's the genesis of my question, which is I'm surprised with a group of people that come that for the and again, if I'm going to be generalistic, do believe in hard work, do believe in families, and do believe in their faith. They believe in God, and they believe in what the Bible teaches them. Yet, still 50 to 55% of them are voting for a party that doesn't agree with any of their core fundamental principles and ideals. And so why is that? And what's going to happen with the Hispanic vote in this election?

Is it going to continue to trend towards Trump? Or is there going to be an attraction to a minority woman in Kamala Harris that can get this voting bloc to gravitate towards her? Well, I think it's going to continue to grow. And, you know, Kamala has really exploited the Latinos and they're tired. Like I said, they're the biggest group that's that's exploited. But in 16, it was in the 20s. In 2020, it was more in the 30s. And now I read something today. It's 51 percent. And I was with a gentleman the other day, Steve Cortez, who said, look, if we hit 50 percent with the

Hispanic vote, it's in the bag and we're there. If we hit what percent? 50. Oh, I mean, it's done. Yeah, it's done. So but, you know, the thing is, do you think that's possible? Do you think that's possible? I mean, I think we're there. I think we're there. And because why? Because inflation affects us. Yes. The trafficking, we're the biggest exploited. But, you know, inflation. You know, 59 percent of illegals. First of all, the Latinos that can vote legally were in this country legally. And we've gotten online and spent a lot of money. But now the Latinos don't like the fact that others can just walk through the average social security. I've worked for almost 50 years. The average social security check is twelve hundred dollars now and the legal coming in here is getting thirty eight hundred to four thousand dollars

a month in in benefits much greater than most americans yes and so fifty nine percent of the people who are coming into this country legally have have are receiving benefits what i've worked my whole life to possibly receive it's not going to be there i i'm you know i'm 70 i i can i don't know if they if i retire if they fire me whatever but uh the way i'm going but the important thing i'm always on the verge of getting fired it's a good place but i've been worked for almost 50 years. I actually started working when I was 10 years old in the factory on Christmas breaks and stuff. But I loved it. You know, it's nothing greater than to produce and, you know, give back to God in your talents. Of course, loading trucks and stuff like that, not a lot of talent.

But the thing is, I've worked my whole life to, and I don't regret it, but we're letting people come into this country who not work a day and they're getting more benefits. It almost incentivizes us to say, hey, why don't I just sit at home? They're talking about gouging on pricing. The grocery stores make 1.4%. you know, they're talking about gouging on pricing. The grocery stores make 1.4%. You know, how is that gouging? It's almost, they'd be better as an owner of a grocery store who has to pay super high rent or property taxes, labor, food prices, and compete with, you know, if you don't like my prices, they're going to go next door. If you don't like Walmart, and compete with, you know, if you don't like my prices, they're going to go next door. If you don't like Walmart,

you're going to shop right or whatever. But you know, it, to, to, to work 14 hours a day, 16 hours a day for a measly return versus staying at home and having the government feed you. The problem is when you do that, you've sold your soul, you've sold your, you've taken rid of your purpose. And the mental health is a big problem. And, you know, you need to get up with purpose.

Yeah, it's so true. It's so true. You know, I think about this election. I think so much is on the line. You talked about life. You talked about the economy. You talked about the poverty that we're seeing, the level of it. I saw a video the other day online. It was a woman who was parked. She had her phone out and she's parked in a

parking lot in Walmart at night. And she said, look, there's 15 other cars here of people who are sleeping in their cars because they're priced out of their houses. You know, people are just hitting really hard times. And as you said, they're seeing people come over illegally, but also through these really, you know, in a way that enriches these terrible criminal cartels. And then as they get over, they're getting more benefits than many Americans who have fallen on really tough times right now. And Kamala Harris and the Democrats, in my view, seem oblivious to it. They keep saying it's not happening, that the economy is doing great.

I think there's so much at stake. It's the economy. It's life. It's crime. And I think that as the times seem more volatile, I think people are having to depend more on prayer. I think prayer, and that's why I love that you talk about this in the terms of a spiritual battle. I think that's, there's only so much we can do, right? I mean, there's only so much we can do as individuals.

And then the rest, we got to just leave up to God. That's exactly right. And, you know, it's not just the Harris administration now. It's every state, you know, in California, and I guess Newsom finally rejected it, but they wanted to offer $150,000 tax interest-free loan to illegals coming in. The benefits, you know, it's not just at the president level. You know, our states, you know, that we can, they can garner 46%, 47% of the vote with this type of evil. We're in a spiritual war. This is evil.

And it's that people are on the take you know that we've been sent it's and it's not necessarily their fault when the government says you don't have to work to stay look at the big cities every state every big city in every state with the benefits is a is a disaster it's democrat run And because they they believe in buying the vote and buying. But when you buy the vote, you're not just buying the vote, you're buying the soul. And we have to pray, like you say, that we don't allow a government to to buy our our purpose, to buy our reason to get up to that every day, our purpose, to buy our reason to get up every day, to buy our faith, to buy our families, to buy our work. And the kids, it's very sad. We're selling our kids in some countries because there's so much poverty. But at what point do you know when that's when pure evil is taking over and we have to pray that we can move this country closer to God.

I pray for Donald Trump every day. He's he's takes it on the chin. And I think he is the man who God has his hand on and that will lead us closer to God. And in this in this spiritual war, you know, Bob, you make a really good point. So as I think of this, I go, I have to take care of my family. I have to be able to feed my family and put a roof over their head. And can I help others around me? Not to your extent, Bob, but I can help people around me as well. I can't help everybody though. And you could help more people than I could, I can't help everybody, though, and you could help more people than I could, but you can't help everybody either. And I look at what this government is doing in the sense that they're trying to give food, housing, cell phones, money for down payments on homes. They're giving away all of this money, all of these resources that we don't have.

And so what happens is to people who aren't even citizens. Right. And we're doing it in Ukraine. You know, we're paying for pensions for people in Ukraine. And so you get to the point where if you can't take of take care of your own family because you're giving all of your money to somebody else, that's a problem. And this is and I want to, you're a smart business guy and I'm kind of taking it in a little different direction. But my concern is that the people in our government, Bob, they're not stupid. These are actually very smart people. And they're expanding the role and influence and expense of the government,

not necessarily by taxes, but by printing money. And what they're doing is they're destroying our economy. It's going to collapse. It's going to crash. You can't do this. You can't take in 12, 15, 18 million people and then pay for all of them when you have your own people living on the streets and struggling to put food on the table. It just doesn't work. And at one point, $35 trillion is going to turn into $50 trillion. And at one point, someone's not going to buy our debt. And we are going to find ourselves in some very difficult economic pain that every American is going to bear.

I want to get your thoughts just on kind of how our government is thinking about their role to their citizens and their duty to people who they've led into the country unlawfully. It's money and power. They're brilliant with the phones. You know, the Obama phones, you're giving that to the illegals. A big group coming in, one of the biggest groups was Venezuelan. I actually have a daughter-in-law who's Venezuelan. And, you know, they came in. All of a sudden, all these Venezuelans are in Dallas. You know, we're coming through the border.

How do they know they're in Dallas? Because the phones, they track them. Also, they can send messages on the phone to control. And when I got out of college in 76, 77, and I was back in New Jersey, the New Jersey taxes were like 2%, 2.5%. And I made four bucks an hour. They didn't want to pay me a lot as an account with an accounting degree. And that's 8,000 a year. But I paid taxes because you have to, you have skin in the game. Now, New Jersey taxes are 9 percent they want to raise the taxes even further so you know if and if you work you you get you're you're paying you're working more than half a day for someone else to not pay taxes or to not work and and so the burden becomes and this is

communism and communism works until you've run out of other people's money to spend, as Margaret Thatcher, I believe, said. But this is slowly, you know, but it's the few. It's like the animal farm. All animals are created equal. Some animals are more equal than others. The few that want to control us for two reasons, money and power. They stay in power.

And so you're right. We're going to lose the dollar. We're going to lose our country. And if we don't go into World War III at the same time, because you have issues all over the place, which I believe Donald Trump would stop all that and bring us back to, he's talking about strengthening the dollar. That's very important. If our economy is just,

you have some people saying, oh, it's the best economy in the world. I'm sorry. With all this debt and where we're heading, it is not, it might be the strongest economy in the world, but we're heading for a disaster. I believe, as a Latino, as we should. And I was with Bukele in El Salvador last week to align the United States with people who think like us. You know, El Salvador, Argentina are countries that are pro-business, conservative. Pro-America versus pro-China. Yeah. But we can't do it all on our own.

You have the European Union, which has Germany, France, all the countries there, a lot of them. We need to align in this hemisphere, North, South America, Central America, Mexico, who considers themselves different. But we need to align. And Mexico is going communist. It's going communist. Venezuela, Brazil, Brazil. We're going to we need to unite. And I think Trump can do that. Trump can form this coalition with that will make America stronger, not just on our own, but with our allies. And let's stop giving money away to our enemies or let's let's give money to two countries that we can work together with. we can work together with that's going to make this economy strong not you know giving money everywhere uh you know and and just and we're paying for it we're yeah who said you can spend my money on that you know hey honey i saved you so much money today but right but the you know we

need to align i believe in this hemisphere with with countries that are pro-America, pro-business, pro-prosperity and safeguard each other. Yes. Do it. And Trump, we Donald J. Trump can do it. Kamala Harris is not there. They're just looking for the destruction to to control us, to exploit us, to traffic us, to drive us into poverty. And guess what? Poverty is slavery. Ben Carson has said there's more slavery in the world today than in the history of the world. And he's right.

It's so true. And I do love you talking about the Western Hemisphere because I think we've neglected it in terms of our foreign policy. We've overextended ourselves into areas that really don't affect us directly and dump billions and billions of dollars into a war in Ukraine that I can't figure out how it benefits us at all. And as you said, it was the breadbasket of the world, and we've destroyed that supply. And a lot of people have gone hungry because of that war, and we don't talk enough about that. I do want to talk something really close to home for me and for you. You're a Jersey guy. I live in Jersey right now. As you know, the governor of New Jersey has, you know, made mandatory, you know, LGBT curriculum for kindergarten on up. And just

there's such a lack of of attention to protecting the innocence of children at school. And the government schools act like they own our kids. And a lot of disadvantaged, economically disadvantaged families want to get out of that system. They want to put their kid in a good Catholic school, a good classical school, a private school that honors the values of the families. But some of them feel trapped because they can't afford the tuition or their kid maybe can't get that scholarship to get into a private school down the street or in another town. And there is a friend of ours, Suzanne, who started an organization called Hope Through Education to raise money

to provide families who want to escape those schools and send their kids to a school that actually matches the values, the Christian values of the family, and make sure that every child has an opportunity to go to a better school. Because as you know, there is no voucher program in New Jersey. And so she started this organization called Hope Through Education. She invited me to speak at one of the events where they raised money. I ended up joining the board. Jesse Waters got involved in the organization. His wife is also on the board. Nicole Sapphire from Fox is also involved in this organization because we really believe that every child should have that option, that every family. And you got involved and you donated. And it's so in line with what you do because you you really prioritize children.

Everything that you do from the food banks to to your your your support for organizations who are fighting human trafficking, of which children are the most innocent and vulnerable victims. You went to take rosaries to Ukraine to make sure people there had food and a rosary so they could hold on to their faith in the midst of that terrible war. And you're also caring about the kids right here in your own backyard in New Jersey. And that's why you're receiving this award this week. And I guess I just wanted to give you a chance to talk about Hope Through Education, but also about the need for school choice in this country, because those are tax dollars. Sean and I pay a lot of taxes in New Jersey, and it breaks my heart to know that some of it is going to pay for curriculums that are totally anti-Christian and anti-family and anti-child.

Yeah, no, that's so, it's so great what you're doing, Rachel and Sean. And it's just education. I went through Catholic schools through college. In my second grade at St. Ambrose in Chevrolet, Maryland, there were 71 children and a lot of discipline. But, you know, and we had to learn the catechism. You know, confirmation did a fourth grade, but, you know, we were very afraid of being, you know, peppered with questions from the bishop. And, you know, we were very afraid of being, you know, peppered with questions from the bishop. And, you know, we were on our toes.

But, you know, a lot of that has changed. And unfortunately, a lot of the Catholic schools have, you know, shut down. And even it's hard finding teachers for formation. You know, you have waiting lines now for formation. We're building churches, but we need to build the formation for these children. In Houston here in Fulcher, St. Faustina, who coincidentally of Poland, you know, Krakow, John Paul II, you know, they're building a church, but the schools are much, you know, the formation, there's people on waiting lines. Yes.

And the thing is, 71 kids when I was growing up was doable, the very strong nun or lay person. But now, you know, and I have children who are dyslexic, But now, you know, and I have children who are dyslexic and you cannot have a classroom where you have an ADD or ADHD or dyslexic person who are very smart, but they just need to learn differently. So you have a 20 person classroom and that and more teachers. So that means more money so the uh so that's very important to to educate our kids and in the faith but you know the you know what was it weingarten i forget her first name randy weingarten the head of the american teachers association the union the teachers yes she shut down the kids for two years. You know, the parochial schools, the independent schools were open.

You know, that was evil to shut down our children and to go on to virtual learning. And, you know, we're captive to these smartphones and there's no personal personal contact and we can bully and we can do all that. So what I think the education in the public system is turned evil. And you have these school boards that are pushing these agendas. That's not at the education. We need to educate in writing arithmetic, you know, the three. Yeah. And the basics.

But in a private setting or in a religious setting, you know, you're teaching, you should be teaching the values and our faith and love each other. And that's not going to be taught in the majority of the schools. And we need to get to, you know, voucher systems and give people the choice to have, because they're taking away from the parents. Yes, they are. Yes, they are. To educate their children.

And they're forced many times they can't afford it. And like what you're doing, you're giving people who can't afford it the ability to go into other schools that are not with these agendas. They're talking, they're teaching value, valuing each other, respecting each other, loving each other. Yeah. You know, Bob, one of the most beautiful things that I see happening, like it's the simplest little thing, but in my kids' Catholic school, you know, if somebody is sick, but another student we're part of, Bob Hope Through Education, is if they give a scholarship, Hope will pay a third of it. The Catholic school takes on a third of it, and the family takes on a third of it. And so everyone has skin in the game. And so everyone has skin in the game. And then if they're siblings, this is something I really love about this organization is, of course, I have so many kids and their siblings are so important.

So if one sibling gets in the next year, they prioritize siblings so that siblings can remain together at the school. So if one sibling has the scholarship so they can go to school, they're going to prioritize the siblings of that child so that the siblings aren't separated. And those siblings can also go to the same Catholic school. My kids go to a classical school. And so they're learning Latin and they're getting a really strong, great books education, and they're steeped in Western civilization. And they go to school in a in a very, you know, working class town with a really wide sort of economic spectrum of people from, you know, blue collar to white collar jobs. And many of the kids are receiving scholarships, you know, through the school and also through Hope in Education. And it's helping to fill that gap until New Jersey gets some common sense, Bob, and introduce a school choice. Or if Donald Trump is elected, I wonder

if something could be done federally to make sure that the money, maybe if they abolish the Department of Education, the money gets sent back to the school, but with the caveat that there's a voucher program. Is that possible, Sean? The way I see this, Bob, is you have to do it like the drinking age. The Department of Transportation withheld money for states until they increased their drinking age from 18 then to 19 and then to 21 and if you don't want to change your laws in your state you didn't have to but the department of transportation wouldn't send you money then to help build roads and bridges in your state

you can almost again this is very liberal in the use of government but you could do the same thing here to go you know what the money for education will not flow to your state unless federal government. Yep. Until unless you have a program in place that's going to guarantee school choice for the kids in your in your communities and in your state. And I think that's the way you get compliance in places like New Jersey. I love it. Very coercive, but for the good.

Yeah. And it's an economic thing. When I was a kid, you know, it was very cheap because, you know, the nuns and the lay people worked for almost nothing. And or the lay person will teach and their children went to school for free. You know, that was the deal.

But, you know, since then, so much since, so many schools have closed. And so with the cost of teachers and all that, it's gone way out of sight. I mean, there's some Catholic schools that are, you know, like college, high school or college prices to get in. So but, you know, at the same time, the government is sending money to NGOs, Catholic charities, for example, in San Antonio, the great people running it, but they've put tons of money into creating shelters for, to the, they're basically a halfway house while people are being trafficked. Right. That's exactly what they're doing. You know what I say about them, Bob? I say Catholic charities at this point is neither Catholic nor charity. I'm sorry. They have just gotten in bed with the government to get this money. And as you said, they're a halfway house for And we need to the government, like you say, hey, let's get vouchers in every every every place so that we can teach our children the value and the work that, you know, hope through education is doing that you're doing is is providing that.

But eventually, you know, there's this it's just too costly. We have to get the government, you know, both state and federal behind this. They're going to do it in Texas has not passed it. They need to. I was talking to Dan Patrick and they need to get that going and they're going to start small. But we need to. It's too costly for people to have an alternative. And we need to provide an alternative that's good. You know, it's not evil. The spiritual war is happening with the kids in Cuba.

They take the kids very young, pioneros, right? They say, close your eyes and pray to God for candy. And they open their eyes. There's no candy. Now, close your eyes and pray to God for candy. And they open their eyes, there's no candy. Now close your eyes and pray to Fidel for candy. And then they place candy on the desk and they open their eyes. It's indoctrination. And what we have here is indoctrination of our children with the gender stuff and not valuing each other. You know, this is indoctrination and they start with the children. So what you're doing at the level of the child, K to 12, is so, so important that we cannot lose our children. You know, let the children come to me for the kingdom of God is for such as these.

Oh, no doubt, Bob. Listen, we just, we are so grateful, Rachel and I, to have gotten to know you. We love all the good work that you and Goya are doing in in the community, in the country, the people that you touch from the resources that you give to groups to do good in the world, but also the food that you give to put to put food in people's bellies. to put food in people's bellies. We love all of your work. I mean, the breadth of knowledge that you have, you are a national treasure in this country, and we are grateful that you would join us on our podcast. We're going to see you this week. We're going to see you at the gala.

And then, yeah, we're just so grateful you made time to come and accept a very well-deserved award. Well, you two are the national treasures. And people with heart, there's so many organizations out there with heart. But for me to give away food is easy. And by the way, it's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. But that's the easy part. The hard part is what people are doing at an individual level with our children, teaching them. And so that's just a great organization that you're behind.

And, you know, nine beautiful children. And like I said, you're an example for me for this world of what it is to be an incredible. It's so important, the family. this world of what it is to be an incredible. It's so important, the family. We cannot underestimate the role of the father, the mother. And, you know, we appreciate the single moms and single dads, but, you know, it's so important to have the family, God, family, and work. And you guys are the example. Well, Bob, again, we are so grateful for you. And by the way, I have to do the bottom line. By the way, that's from 6 to 7 Eastern on Fox Business.

After that, I'm going to come out after the gala is probably near conclusion, but hopefully you'll have time for maybe a nice cold drink or a glass of wine before you head out. So I'm looking forward to that. Rachel, make sure you're going to see Bob when I get to the gala a little bit late. So again, thank you for being on the podcast. Again, look forward to seeing you later this week. And so grateful for all that you do.

Thanks, Bob. Thank you. Love you guys. You're the best. You are too. We love you too. Take care. We'll have more of this conversation after this.

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CBC News. And Rachel, we're so grateful for Bob. He's done a podcast a number of times, and again, he is an influence and a force for good in the country. Very thoughtful, thinking, you know, how can I partner with anybody that, you know, again, supports freedom and faith and families? And wants to help children. Which is the bedrock of society. And I love all that all that he does.

And again, he's brave. He's so brave. He's I mean, it's not easy to be. It's much easier to be wealthy and in corporate America and keep your mouth shut. But he's taken on some some big issues. He supported a candidate that he thought was actually going to lift people out of poverty. And that wasn't the, you know, the candidate that's beloved or embraced or celebrated by so many of his of his corporate ceo peers and he did it anyway and then he like i say he took on he took on sex trafficking which is you know subject people

only want to think about um but he took it on when jp2 said be not afraid bob not in a way endorsed that idea and has lived um that for sure so um listen uh we're all going to be tuning into the debate tonight and look forward to talking about it again as we unpack what's going to happen, not just in this moment, but as this election rolls forward, which is going to have so much impact on the direction our country is going to go. We're going to talk about that in the next couple of podcasts. But we want to thank you for joining us here at the Kitchen Table. If you like our podcast, tell your friends, your family members, your neighbors, rate, review, subscribe, wherever you get your podcasts.

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