From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Is Michelle Obama Planning A Run For President?

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

Is Michelle Obama planning a run for the Presidency? Sean and Rachel break down the potential for the former First Lady to jump into the Democratic primary in 2024, and how it would impact the outcome of the election. Later, they talk about the White House Correspondent's dinner, why they feel the media is soft on the Biden Administration, and outline the President's mistakes in handling the crisis at the Southern Border.  Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. We're back at the kitchen table and we have some really interesting topics. So let's just get right into it because, you know, everyone loves Sunday Morning Futures. It's like the number one show on Sunday, which always makes us at Fox & Friends a little bit mad. We're just right behind Maria every time. Sometimes we beat her. But listen, this week she had Newt Gingrich on.

And she asked a very interesting question of Newt Gingrich. She asked, why did Susan Rice leave? A lot of people didn't see that this had happened. Susan Rice, who used to be in the Obama administration, became the domestic policy advisor for Joe Biden. And I've always thought she was sort of a little bit of the puppeteer behind the, you know, she was the wizard. The man behind the curtain. Yeah, the great Oz, along with others. But she left the Biden administration.

And not a lot of people asked what was going on there. But Maria did. And she asked somebody very smart, Newt Gingrich. And here's what he had to say. Newt, I want to get your take on Anthony Blinken as well in a second. But do you believe that Susan Rice leaves the White House the day before Biden makes this announcement is a coincidence? I mean, I feel that this is very significant. I don't know if she's going to be managing somebody else's campaign, if she's going to run to challenge Biden. What do you think's going on here? But clearly,

Democrats are divided over Biden's reelection bid. Well, I think at a minimum, it probably is a sign that she said, don't do it. And he said, I'm doing it anyway. And I think she just didn't want to be part of a Biden reelection. And I also think that I was very struck when Mark Halperin in his Wide World of News ran the video of Michelle Obama on stage with Bruce Springsteen. She's playing a tambourine. She recently had 9,000 people at an event with Oprah in Los Angeles. I think Republicans had better pay significant attention to Michelle Obama. I think it's interesting that Newt is actually laying out probably the secret weapon of the Democrat Party, if used, is Michelle Obama. And, you know, again, she plays in a certain space and sphere.

But now, again, she's on stage with Bruce Springsteen playing the tambourine up there. She's still touring. She's still, you know, having these big events with lots of people proving that she can draw these crowds. Walk through any airport, John. Her books are still the most prominently displayed books.

I don't know who her publishing company is, but boy, they've got a lot of power. You can't walk through an airport without seeing Michelle Obama's face somewhere. And she's still very prominently in popular culture. She still is playing a role in there. And, you know, she's still very prominently in popular culture. She still is playing a role in there. And, you know, she's been asked by, you know, one of her good friends, Gail King, I think we have that clip, whether she would consider a run.

Here's what she said. But do you ever wonder or do you ever think when will politics leave you? Because you said, I'm not a political person. Politics isn't something I wanted. But people still hope and want you to do something. Yeah. I am authentic. If I were going to engage in politics, I would let people know. But I am a public figure. I still care about these issues. I will always find ways to use my platform to to speak out. That's why I'm focusing on getting young people to vote. Yeah, because none of it matters.

It doesn't matter who's in the Oval Office if we can't give them a Congress that they can work with. So we're not managing our state houses and on and on. I could go on and on about it. This is so interesting, Sean, because she's trying. First of all, she's playing her cards very close to her chest. She's also lying, saying she's not political. I mean, I remember when Donald Trump was in office and she teamed up with George Bush's wife. I want to say Barbara, but Laura Bush. Thank you. She teamed up with Laura Bush to do this whole thing about children being separated at the border. And yet now that we know that our government is complicit with the cartels and basically sex and child labor trafficking rings. I haven't heard from Michelle Obama, but she does weigh in. Or Laura Bush.

Or Laura Bush. But she does weigh in at certain moments. She definitely weighed in on George Floyd. She's definitely weighed in on different hot cultural topics. She is not silent. She was also weighed in on Roe versus Wade and the Dobbs decision. And I think I have been I've told you this for a while. There are other people who have said it. Other people have said they thought that Michelle Obama was interested in running for president. And I think that I don't think she wants to. I think she realizes she needs to. And and and that's definitely a secret weapon. She says, I'm not I'm not political by nature, but I'm a political person. And however, I need more people to vote, because if you have the presidency or you have the White House, but you don't have the Congress, you can't get all of this stuff done.

And again, when you look at what Michelle and Barack Obama have started, that Joe Biden is, again, in the third term of the Obama White House, they've started a radical movement. To fundamentally transform America. So if you look at what Joe Biden has done, whether it was, you know, $1.2 trillion on infrastructure, that's really not about infrastructure. It's really about climate change. Or you look at the Inflation Reduction Act, which is also about climate change. There's a number of things. And also, by the way, the COVID relief package that they passed about climate change. They're still spending the money when COVID's done.

So this is what these, this is about the complete transformation of America going from a free society where you believe in free speech, you believe in the Second Amendment and gun ownership. You believe in these core tenets that we've had for a very long time in our culture. They want to roll those back, and they want to move us to something that's far different than our grandparents would never

recognize. That's where they want us to go. Just one other point. A very authoritarian thing that they want to. It's really based on like a Chinese style control of central government over us. And of course, now with technology, they finally have the tools to actually implement that kind of control over us. It's interesting. They do it behind closed doors. So we don't, we feel like we were censored on Twitter. We now found out that we were or on Facebook or on Google, but also then the FBI and the DOJ and the CIA all work behind the scenes. So we don't really have light shine on how they're censoring and using this massive power against us, the people, which is really scary. But you mentioned Joe Biden. I mean,

listen, Joe Biden has problems. He's had a hard time communicating. He doesn't know when or where to walk off stage. He's shaking hands with invisible people. But Robert F. Kennedy Jr. got in the race in the Democrat side, and already he's at 19%. Yeah, almost 20%. It's actually shockingly high numbers because this is a highly vilified guy. The media has vilified him. The Democrat Party has vilified him. He's gotten some, I'll put in quotes, love from the Republican Party in the sense that they're happy that he is telling the truth. He was a truth teller in regard to the vaccines, even masking. And all the mandates and everything around that. But 20%, that's how bad this incumbent president

is in Joe Biden, where RFK, not in line with the socialist movement in the Democrat Party, is pulling 20%. Right. And so if someone like Michelle Obama were to jump in, you know, sort of under the radar signaling to and trying to build support among a very important block for the Democrat Party. But so are suburban white women, because they can sometimes split. They can sometimes go with their pocketbook and maybe vote for Trump, which happened to some degree in 2016. But he lost them in 2020. He lost them in 2020. So they're kind of a little bit of a fickle vote. And with the way the, they're a swing voter, exactly. And

the way that this economy is hurting so many middle class people, that's a real danger for the Democrats with Joe Biden running. But here is, I think, a very interesting sign that Michelle Obama is signaling to them. She's talking about menopause. And when you think of the other symptoms that come along, just hot flashes. I mean, I had a few before I started taking hormones. I remember having one on Marine One. I'm dressed. I need to get out, walk into an event. And literally, it was like somebody put a furnace in my core and turned it on high. And then everything started melting. And I thought, well, this is crazy. I can't, I can't, I can't do this. Well, you know, and she also in interviews, she's not just talking about the hot flashes,

just how much harder it is for her in the gym to keep her buff arms buff. Because, you know, it's just that much harder post menopause to keep the muscle mass on. She's really trying to appeal in a very, you know, listen, a lot of women can relate to that. And, and she's saying, it's not just me. Barack gets this too. Barack, I understand. Yeah, yeah. Listen to that. And she's saying, it's not just me. Barack gets this too. Barack, I understand. Yeah, yeah. Listen to this. And Barack was surrounded by women in his cabinet, many going through menopause, and he could see it. He could see it in somebody because sweat would start pouring. And he's like, well, what's going on? And it's like, no, this is just how we live. He didn't fall apart because he found out there were several women in his staff

that were going through menopause. It was just sort of like, oh, we'll turn the air conditioner on. Yeah, so Barack likes menopausal women too. I mean, it's an interesting conversation. It's like he didn't fall apart because he had a menopausal, you know, staffer. What a great guy. Who has a problem with menopausal women? I mean, it's like. Well, maybe there's some suburban moms

who think men have that, and maybe she's signaling that way. I don't know. She's talking a lot about menopause these days, and I guess maybe it's self-referential, but I also think she's trying to connect with people. That's my question. So I guess I'm not a woman. You're not menopausal. I'm never going to go through menopause.

But I wonder, what is the benefit to saying I can not a woman. You're not menopausal. I'm never going to go through menopause. But I wonder, what is the benefit to saying, I can relate to you. I'm going to talk about menopause, what I'm going through, because I know you're going through it. And Barack understands you as well. We can all point you out in a crowd if we see you. Yeah, Barack can tell. But he likes you anyway. Barack knows. Barack knows.

I don't get the political benefit of that. I do. I think it's a way. Listen, you're not a woman. It's a way to connect. Listen, there's something like if you look at someone like, let's say, Meghan Markle versus Oprah Winfrey. And what Michelle wants is she wants – and this is very interesting because I see this happening. Michelle wants to be the Oprah because – let me explain how women think, Sean. Tell me.

to be the Oprah. Let me explain how women think, Sean. There is not one political issue that I agree with of significance that I agree with Oprah Winfrey on, but I like Oprah Winfrey. I can't help liking Oprah Winfrey. I love Oprah Winfrey. I want to be Oprah's friend. I know Oprah doesn't want to be my friend because I'm a conservative and I voted for Trump and I have nine kids and we have nothing in common, but I want to be Oprah's friend. Every woman feels that because there's something about Oprah. She is likable. She's relatable. She just has that. It's part of her DNA. She's a girl's girl. Meghan Markle, not a girl's girl. And Michelle Obama is somewhere in the middle. And if you notice lately that she has been distancing herself from Meghan Markle. Now, Meghan Markle served a purpose. Barack Obama and Michelle Obama can't stand the Brits.

They can't stand that whole imperialism and colonialist history of the royal family. And when Meghan Markle came in, and quickly we saw trouble brewing, I believe that the Obama swooped in, gave her a little Netflix deal, let her, you know, trash the royal family. And by the way, they have not recovered from that, no matter what they say, and no matter what the Daily Mail and all the pro-monarchy press wants to say, Daily Mail and all the pro-monarchy press wants to say they have not recovered from the from the hurls, insults of racists, imperialists and all that stuff that Meghan did with Harry. But lately, Michelle Obama, who and who was kind of friends with Harry and and Meghan has now distanced herself a bit from she's made a couple of comments about like, you know, about, you know, it's enough with the in-laws. She's made some soft comments about like, you know, about, you know, it's enough

with the in-laws. She's made some soft comments, sort of distinctions herself. And now, as Newt Gingrich pointed out, Sean, she's doing these events with Oprah, 9,000 women here, 10,000 women there. And sometimes it's amphitheaters full of women. She wants to be more like Oprah, because if you can be Oprah, you can win women. Because Oprah, women love Oprah. I know you can win women because Oprah – women love Oprah.

I know you don't get it, but it's true. Can I take a – can I diverge for a second? So when I was in Congress, like all the conservative voters were like, Rachel is a real conservative. Sean is kind of soft in the middle. On Fox, Fox viewers were like, Rachel is like the real conservative and Sean – That's not true. A little bit. But here's the deal. Or they say, Rachel is like the real conservative. That's not true. A little bit.

Or they say, Rachel's crazy. Sean's sane. I was going to say, from our last podcast, I don't want to be friends with Chip and Joanne. I don't want to be friends with Oprah Rachel. She's not trying to get your vote, but that's the whole point. She's not trying to get your vote. She's crazy.

She's a liar. I'm trying to tell you,. She's crazy. No, but she – She's a liar. I am trying – She's a liar. I'm trying to tell you, Sean, she is making a very important political point. Oprah or Michelle? No, not Oprah. Michelle Obama wants to be more like Oprah because women like Oprah. And that is – Well, politics is likeability.

And I agree with that. It is. Of course it is. It's like who do you want to have – For guys, it's like who do you want to have a beer with? For women, it's like who do you want to hang out with? Who do you want to be your friend? And so that's what I think is happening.

I think she's making a move. She's also talking about other relatable things like her marriage. Listen to this clip. Let's go to this one. We've been married for 30 years. I know. You know, if I fell out with him for 10 and we had great 20 years. I take those odds anytime, but I don't, we glamorize marriage. And in this day and age, marriage is more about the dress and the dresses

and the proposal and the honeymoon and all the stuff around it. And young people aren't ready for the real of marriage. So Sean, what she's referring to is she had an interview a while back where she said, look, there were 10 years where, you know, she's referring to is she had an interview a while back where she said, look, there were 10 years where, you know, she said her marriage was rushed. She couldn't stand Barack Obama during these 10 years, whatever. She's been married 30 years. I couldn't stand it for eight. Yeah, we couldn't stand it for eight. We can relate. That was good. But people criticized her for that. And she's like, listen, I've been married 30 years. You know, if for 10 of those

years, you know, it was a rough patch, okay, I'll take those odds. And I think a lot of people can relate to, you know, the work that is involved in marriage. You and I talk about that all the time, that every day, you know, it is, you know, you make the vows you take on that wedding day. Every day you have to commit to that because, you know, it takes work to make it work. And I think she's relating to that. She's saying there's way too much emphasis on the rings and the dress and the honeymoon and the wedding.

And, you know, people need to think more about what marriage means so they can. And everyone can relate to that. You get that. I felt like she was saying, it's not so great. You know, it's hard. And, you know, it's not a dress. It's not a ring. And I think that is.

I think she's being real. So first off, I think. Again. Hold on a second. Michelle not talking to Sean. Michelle is talking to women. Marriage is hard. Anything that's rewarding takes effort and work.

And marriage is that for sure. Yeah. But also, I think you hold it up and you celebrate it. I think she's somewhat denigrating marriage in this comment as opposed to going, you know what, it is hard and it's not always great. However – I truly resent you making me defend Michelle Obama here, but I'm just going to say Michelle Obama is right.

It takes work and there's a lot of romantization about it in the beginning and it takes work. And I just think it's a relatable statement. Let's just get to the heart of this, Sean, that she is making a play. She is definitely the no pun intended, the trump card in the Democrat and the Democrat political plan here, because I think there's a lot of consultants, important people who run this, the Democrat Party who are looking at Joe Biden. And he's had some more gaffes this week that were embarrassing and horrible. We've also got the situation with Hunter Biden that doesn't get any better. It gets worse. And they see a damaged

product in Joe Biden. And they see danger in RFK Jr., who's not just a danger to Joe Biden, but also to a lot of the corporate and political interests that they, and the national security and the military industrial companies, there's a lot of reasons they want to keep JFK Jr. out. The easiest thing they could do is put her in. And I am telling you, she will be a threat. We'll have more of this conversation after this.

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There's no love lost there. And so, and frankly, I don't think that, but by the way, if you remember the clip from, gosh, it was a year ago, Barack Obama came back to the White House for the first time and he was there with Joe Biden and Joe Biden was wandering around. No one wanted to talk to him. And Barack Obama was treated like a rock star in the White House where Joe Biden's the president. But that's an aside. I think the Obamas would like nothing more than to have Joe Biden announced like he has and then embarrass the hell out of him and go, now Michelle's in.

You have to get out, Joe, because we are the real party. We are the real Democrats here. So there's that point. But go back to what Newt said. So do you think Newt's right that that susan rice was like listen because susan rice is part of that cabal that runs the democrat party and they were like you can't run and he would he and jill especially because you know jill wants this more than joe and they were like we are running again and and and then now susan rice

is like i I'm out. So here's the here's the here's the problem that Democrats have. Can Joe Biden win again? Maybe it's possible. He's a sitting president. He can win reelection, even if he does it from the basement a second time because the media is going to cover for him. I don't know if it's going to work again, Sean. It may not.

But here's the real problem that concerns Democrats. They're not about short term power. They are about long term consequential power. And so if Joe Biden wins. Right. And he doesn't make it through the presidency, which he very well may not. I mean, he's going to be 82. He might not make it through the campaign. True. They're then left with Kamala Harris.

And Kamala Harris is an absolute Democrat disaster because she's, one, the heir apparent, and two, she will destroy the Democrat Party because she is so bad. I mean, listen, I've seen bad politicians in my life at all different ranges of government. I don't think I've seen anyone worse than Kamala Harris. I mean, she's horrible. And she's horrible. So that's the real if you want long term power, the the the Joe Biden, Kamala Harris ticket is dangerous for winning future elections. And so that's why this could be very real, where the only one who can step in and kick Joe Biden out, it's not going to be Gavin Newsom. Gavin's like, no, he can't. The base will be angry at me and they're going to have a primary and it's going to be nasty. And you can't have a white man take out – because Kamala Harris is the heir apparent.

You cannot – and lots of people have talked – Larry Elders has talked about this. He said if they think they can – if Joe Biden can't run and if they think they're going to pass over Kamala Harris and put in a Gavin Newsom, this is the party of identity politics, remember, put in a white guy and pass over a black woman or at least half black woman, Kamala Harris. Black female voters who are crucial block to the Democrat Party will get angry. They will stay home. They will not vote. And that will collapse their entire strategy. And so the only thing that can replace Joe Biden and a Kamala Harris is a Michelle Obama. And I think Newt Gingrich is right on with this. And I think the Republicans ought to be very close attention, just as he said.

Michelle Obama and Barack Obama and that whole cabal that's been running this thing. They are making some interesting moves right now. Yeah. So to maybe restate the point that no one else in the Democrat Party can push Joe Biden out. Right. He had a good midterm election. They still lost the House, but they did better than most people thought they would. Yes. Joe Biden is riding high. He's done a lot of really, I think, nasty, progressive things as president. So the only way you can kick him to the sideline is by Michelle Obama. And again, I think— Can you imagine the fawning press, Sean?

I mean— For her. Oh, gosh. Oh, no. I mean, it will just—it's like not even— I think it's bad for Joe. I think it's bad for Joe Biden. Wait until Michelle.

Oh, my goodness. I mean, and you won't be able to say anything about it because you'll just be called racist if you have anything to say bad about her. If you if you mention her, her, you know, three mansions on the coast that she say are going to, you know, supposedly they're going to fall into the ocean, but they still have a she's. But here's the thing for Michelle Obama, Sean. The question is, why do it? She is truly living her best life ever. She was just in Spain traveling. She's on yachts with rich people all the time. She has this mansion in Hawaii, another one in the very white Martha's Vineyard where they kick the illegal migrants out of there quicker than you could say

illegal migrants. But she is living an amazing life and her, her sort of vaulted, uh, reputation that she has right now, this, you know, you know, as I said, you know, if you look on left and right, even people in the middle, I would say still like Michelle Obama, I bet her ratings are quite high, even probably higher than her husband's, um, that will take a ding once you start running. And so why would she do this? So when you taste power and the most powerful position in the world, and you've tasted it through your presidency, and you've now given it up for eight years, people want it back.

That's why, listen, Joe Biden is incompetent, right? But he's wanted to be the president for his whole political career. Now he has it. He he should give it up but he will not give up because it is so powerful i think michelle even though it'd be hard work even though she would get dinged even though she can't continue to make millions of dollars a year she's got plenty of money she does the power of the presidency is real the draw of the presidency is real and i and the history presidency is real. And the history making. I mean, she would be the first female and it would be a black female on top of it in a party that is obsessed

with that kind of stuff. So I think Newt Gingrich said what so many people have been thinking. And I think the evidence is out there. Interesting. We'll have more of this conversation after this.

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The most infuriating and offensive was that the journalist who wrote a story about Joe Biden's Catholic faith influencing his, quote, strategic vision won a major award at the event. The Aldo Beckman Award for Overall Excellence in White House Coverage is named for a former association president, the late Chicago Tribune correspondent Aldo Beckman. This year, the award goes to Matt Visor of the Washington Post. The judges said Matt Visor stood out among his competitors for work that went beyond the humdrum of covering the

managed events of the presidency and the White House. Vicer captured the spirit of Joe Biden, particularly with stories about the president's brother and how his Catholic faith influenced his strategic vision of the office. The WHCA is pleased to give the Aldo Beckman Award to Matt Visor. What a puff piece. What a puff piece that was. And what a lie it was. There is nothing Catholic,

let alone Christian, about Barack Obama's strategic vision. Joe Biden. I mean Joe Biden's strategic vision. Nothing. In fact, Joe Biden makes Barack Obama look Catholic. That's how radical and pro-abortion, how much further Joe Biden has been. This is the most radically pro-abortion administration in U.S. history. They have gone further than Barack Obama has. And there's so many other things. I mean,

he's a deadbeat grandpa. There's lots of things that are not Catholic and Christian about Joe Biden. Deadbeat grandpa. That was good. He is. I know he is. We talked about that in the past. But let me, so I think, first of all, you go, he's a radical pro-abortionist, number one. Absolutely. But number two, you go, look at the policy at the southern border. So he's like, I want to let a lot of people come into the country. And I don't believe in borders. But the way he set it up, he's empowered the most evil group of people in the Western

hemisphere, the cartels. And those cartels, by Joe Biden's open border, are selling fentanyl into our country and it's killing our kids. That's not very Catholic. No. Little girls are being sold into slavery for sexual services. That's not very Catholic. And also, people are being sold into slave labor because of the policy at the border. And that's not very Catholic. And also people are being sold into slave labor because of the policy at the border.

And that's not very Catholic. And also, by the way, I do think that Catholics believe in justice. And Joe Biden has this philosophy with his Democrat partners that if you're a criminal, you're actually a victim. And if you've been victimized by a criminal, you're actually an oppressor. I mean, they flipped the concepts on their head. And so, Joe, but besides carrying some rosary beads. In a commercial. And going to mass occasionally. By the way, 85, he's lost 85,000 children who have crossed our border unaccompanied. They can't keep track of. They don't know where they're at. Not 8,000. who have crossed our border unaccompanied, they can't keep track of.

They don't know where they're at. Not 8,000. Not 850. 85,000 kids are lost. And AOC is nowhere crying at the border. And millions of people who've crossed, by the way, Sean, are also living in indentured servitude. They are, you know, the cartels are still tracking them, trying to get their money back that they were owed. I mean, the whole thing is so unbelievable.

And I really want to go back, and I know we talked about it on our last podcast, but I think it's worth mentioning. I think people are really catching on because Hunter Biden just was forced to go to court in Arkansas, to family court. And he's hiding his money. He's hiding, Hunter's hiding his money, wants to make sure that we don't look into his money because it's obviously going to show Joe's money. And Joe Biden, they took the paternity test for little Navy Biden. They know that is, Jill and Joe Biden know that's their grandchild. And they have never met her. They have never invited her over for anything. They couldn't even spare a ticket to the Easter egg roll at the White House for her.

They have not guided their own wayward son, who's a drug addict, and we know he's a problem. They haven't even guided him and shown a better example. How many grandparents around the country are facing things like this, Sean? Listen, this happens in America. It happens around the world. And good moral people stand up and try to do the right thing by way of maybe some, you could say, bad decision made by Hunter. But both Hunter and Joe have a problem.

It's because, one, Hunter doesn't want to pay what is owed to Little Navy and Navy's mom, who used to be a stripper in the Washington, D.C. area where she actually met Hunter. They don't want to pay, number one. But number two, because Hunter Biden doesn't want to pay, the family court's like, we're going to find out how much you actually make. And the problem with that is... Because he says he doesn't have any money. He's a starving artist. That means that you're going to find out how much he made legally and illegally, how much he made in the United States being a lobbyist. But how much did foreign entities that hate America pay Hunter Biden to have access to his father? And by the way, who else? So who how much did he make on his art and who bought the art? All questions the Bidens don't want asked and or answered, this family court could actually

force Hunter Biden to give the answers, again, doing more than the FBI and the DOJ. I was just going to say, the family court is going to do what the DOJ and the FBI refuse to do. That really could happen, right, Sean? It could. And by the way, if you're forced to expose your real income to the family court, maybe the IRS will go, huh, that's not what you reported on your tax forms, Hunter. So this is real problems for Hunter Biden and for Joe Biden. And again, you think you just go find the $2.5 million that Navy's mom wanted paid and pay her and be done with it.

But he hasn't. He wants to fight this thing out. And, again, now you have an angry mother of your child. Put your seatbelt on, Hunter and Joe, because this is going to get ugly. Can I make another point? She's not that dumb. She's a stripper, Sean. But when they met, she was in graduate school.

So she's not like your average stripper. She's a smart stripper. She's a smart stripper. And God bless her. You know what? She's ultimately, the bottom line is she's a mother and she's looking out for her child. And little Navy Biden is entitled to that money, even if it came from corrupt Ukraine deals, even if it came from corrupt deals, energy deals with the Chinese, even if it came from some, you know, Russian deals and whatever, that money belongs to as well to little Navy Biden. Well, I would prefer that all that money be seized. But if it's not going to be seized, which it probably won't, because the federal government wants to give a pass to Hunter Biden, the federal government wants to give a pass to Hunter Biden.

I would rather see it go to Navy Biden as opposed to Hunter, Joe, Jim, Haley. The granddaughters are in on the money. So why can't Navy Biden be in on the money? Hey, Sean, but let's bring it back to why would the White House correspondents dinner? I mean, they know the abortion record of this administration. They know all of these things. I mean, just on abortion alone, you could you could you could say this is not a Catholic president. Why would they just I find it so it's like they're rubbing in our face. I mean, it's just it's infuriating to me.

I mean, it's just it's infuriating to me. So I would say, why would they say that the laptop of Hunter Biden is Russian disinformation? Right. Why would they say that vaccines work? Why would they say that Donald Trump colluded with Russia? I mean, listen, these people, media lies and lies and tells more lies. And I think that's that's the point I want to make. If you look at the correspondence, again, it is fun. And it's supposed to be congenial between the president, the staff, and the media. And normally that's a good thing because they're usually at odds.

They're usually fighting every day where tough questions are coming to the White House. And the White House is dodging and weaving and answering some. tough questions are coming to the White House and the White House is, you know, dodging and weaving and answering some. That has been the way the press has tried to bring information forward for the American people. And now they're on the same team. They're all working towards the same goal. The media doesn't hold Joe Biden accountable. Karine Jean-Pierre can, from the podium, say that we've reduced illegal immigration at the border by 90%. She said that this week. You reduced illegal immigration by 90% at the southern border?

You're a flat-out, bold-faced liar. It's skyrocketed under the Biden administration. And do you know how many media personnel in the White House briefing room asked to follow up? You know the answer? Not one. No one said, where do you get that number, Corinne? Because that doesn't, they don't, they're all Democrat activists right now

in the media. And so, they're all trying to So this isn't about a correspondent dinner where we try and like, you know, be collegial and put our swords down. These guys are already friends. They're already scratching each other's back. That's right. I know the Catholic thing, I know I'm Catholic and maybe that's why it just really rubbed me

the wrong way, but I was furious. And then in the middle of this, and again, I want to get back to this Hunter thing because we talked about the money and the legal ramifications of this, but at the very basic level, as we talk about

the Catholic president, Joe Biden, how it's affected his strategic vision, he is a grandparent. At a human level, he and Jill are grandparents. They know this beautiful little child is theirs. And they have done nothing to show any kind of love for her. It's human. I'm just repelled by them because there are people all over this country, millions of people with far less means, who have welcomed children into their homes that their wayward sons or daughters have been unable or unwilling to take care of. Listen, again, as parents, you can't control what your kids do, but you can control how you respond to what happens in your kids' lives. And this is indicative of who the Bidens are, what kind of person Joe Biden is. And again, I look at what the media is trying to do with that question.

Giving an award to someone else about reporting about Joe Biden's Catholicity. And it's about selling the American people on certain themes that are absolutely untrue. Joe Biden is a Catholic. He's a good Catholic. We actually gave a journalist an award for reporting on what a great Catholic he is. Most people in America still believe that Donald Trump colluded with Russia. False. Fake.

It was a story that came from Hillary Clinton. Most people don't know that because the media has hidden. Most people don't know that the Hunter Biden laptop is real, that it wasn't Russian disinformation. Actually, that number is growing. A lot of people, because they might just watch the main three networks, their morning shows, or they don't get the full news.

Listen, people are busy in their lives. They're going to work, they're out the door, they're bringing the kids to soccer or baseball, and there's a few networks that actually tell the truth about what's happening. And we're lucky enough to work for one of them.

But no one else is. They're just duping the American people. They accuse sitting senators, Ron Johnson and Senator Grassley, of being, you know, of perpetuating or putting out

Russian disinformation. I mean, they, and then they got. They're shameless. And then Anthony Blinken got 50, you know. 51. 51 intelligence officers to sign a letter saying that it was. I mean, it's just unbelievable, the lies and the lies and the lies.

And I guess you're right. I shouldn't be surprised that at the big fancy dinner where the powerful politicians and the powerful media come together in a love fest, that we're going to get more lies in the form of empty awards, stupid awards. It's like a boyfriend and girlfriend who've been dating for a year going to the prom. Right. So it's a big party. Yeah, you go to dinner and yes, you get dressed up and you go to the dance. But you've been dating for a year. Joe Biden and the media have been dating forever. And now they just have a big, a big party to celebrate, you know, the two sides that actually are on the same, on the same side, working to dupe you, the American people. And again, I, to your point, I do think a lot of Americans are getting their information

in different places because they don't trust the mainstream media because they've been lied to so often. And I think that's only going to be more challenging to build credibility from the mainstream media. They could get it back. Tell the truth. Actually do some reporting. Actually dive into Hunter Biden, his foreign deals, and whether Joe Biden was making money off those foreign deals. Do some real reporting. You might get some credibility back, but they're never going to do that because they are mission driven. These are leftist liberals, authoritarians who go, Joe Biden's a tool for us and we're going to support that tool. Yeah, I know. Transform America.

And it's working. Listen, I think it's good that this judge, it restored my faith in the justice system and family court. I mean, you worked in family courts before, Sean. It's an important place where a lot of things happen. that every powerhouse, the most powerful forces in America, tried to hide, debunk, lie about, and now a stripper from Washington, D.C. And a very honest judge who's looking out for little Navy Biden's interests instead of the president. That gives me hope in America, actually, and in our judicial system, that this family court judge

said, you're going to show up in court. You're not going to send your fancy lawyer over here and think you're going to get away with it. You're going to show your face in court. I love that she did that. I love that they're getting to the bottom of it. I love that she did that. I love that they're getting to the bottom of it. I just wish that our president and first lady would do a better job of stepping in for Hunter. And now the former first lady, Michelle Obama, I do think, watch what she does. Again, when you're on stage with Bruce Springsteen playing the tambourine and you're talking about menopause and your marriage.

And your arms. You're putting information out there that as a really, really rich woman, you really don't have to do it. You're not making any more money off talking about menopause or her marriage with Barack or being on stage with Bruce Springsteen. So watch what she's doing because I do think there are real cracks in the Democrat Party's view towards Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. And if they want to make a change, the only change they can make is Michelle Obama or Oprah. Both of them, two really bad choices. Rachel likes one of them, not the other. If I had to choose, okay, that's a great question. If I had to choose between Oprah and Michelle, of course I'd choose Oprah. Please, God, don't give me those choices. Do you want to shoot yourself in the head and slit your throat?

They're both bad. I would enjoy Oprah more. But I would say, you know, they're both bad for America. And hopefully, you know, the Republicans, the conservatives will put somebody forward. But I have to tell you,

even our most formidable, which looks like Donald Trump, I'm going to tell you what, Donald Trump against Michelle Obama, I don't know what will happen there. Donald Trump's a tough guy and he has a lot of strength and he's put up with a lot of abuse and a lot of lies and a lot of things thrown at him. I don't know. Could he survive the love fest? I mean, if you thought that the love fest for Barack Obama was just the most

we've ever seen, this will be 20 times that I'm convinced. Here's why that could be really good for Donald Trump. Tell me. Because he's going to attack the heck out of Michelle Obama. He's going to go after her, go for the junk, like he does with anyone he competes against.

Yeah, that is his seminar. And when he does that, the media is going to want to cover it and go, look at how mean he is, look at how crazy he is. They're going to put him on TV to attack Michelle Obama so they can call him crazy. But when they put him on TV, he's also delivering his message about the future of America, which means a lot of Americans might go, huh, Donald Trump actually makes sense.

Because right now they're trying to ice him out. No one's putting him on anywhere. So he doesn't get attention. Right. He will get a ton of attention. And, you know, Donald Trump with his message does very well when he's in the media because a lot of Americans are like, he's not crazy. I actually agree with a lot of the stuff he's doing. We should put America first.

Or as he attacks Michelle Obama, also what she said that's crazy will come out as well. And people will get to judge that for what it is. First time I'm proud of my country. Right. First time I'm proud of my country. You know, all her support for a lot of causes that people don't agree with. You know, there's a lot of things that can come out. It will be, boy, if you thought Hillary versus Donald Trump was,

look, Donald Trump versus Joe Biden was not a battle because Joe Biden was in his basement. He never came out. It was Trump versus the media. We never saw him. The last time we saw anything even close to this was Hillary versus Donald Trump. You saw what Donald Trump remember when Donald Trump had that debate and he brought out all of Hillary Clinton's accusers and put them in the front row. All of Bill's accusers. I'm sorry. All of Bill Clinton's accusers. Oh, my God. What did I say?

Hillary's accusers. Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, she attacked those ladies, too. But, yeah, she put all the all of Bill Clinton's accusers in the first front row. All of his consultants, I think including Giuliani, were like, you can't do this. He did it anyway. I mean, he plays rough and dirty. And that's what he'll do with Michelle Obama. Again, a little different. Hillary Clinton, not a likable figure.

Michelle Obama, a lot more likable. So this would be the battle of the ages. Michelle Obama versus Trump. Wow. It will get interesting. So we'll see what happens. But keep an eye, as Sean says, on Michelle Obama. Watch Michelle Obama and keep your eye on the media because they lie to you.

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