From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Jill Biden's Despicable Cruelty & Why Gen Z Says Our Country Is "Cooked"

Episode Date: June 29, 2024

On Wednesday, the Duffys shared their predictions about what they think would go down at the CNN Presidential Debate, and now that we're past it...they have some thoughts. Managing producer for 'The Dan Bongino Show,' their daughter Evita Duffy-Alfonso joins to share why she is a huge fan of former President Trump's performance and how, even with low expectations, President Biden managed to surpass them (and not in a good way).   They discuss why they believe it's morally wrong for the First Lady to keep pushing President Biden to run despite his current state, and how this election could open the door for more 'Gen Zer's' to vote red as young people become more disappointed by the Democratic Party.   Follow Sean & Rachel on X: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello, everybody, and welcome to the kitchen table today. We have a special edition. It's a mother-daughter debate, post-debate analysis. Both Evita and I actually were doing live coverage. I did it on Fox Nation. Evita was with Dan Bongino doing some live reaction during the debates. We were both head-to-head, Duffy versus Duffy. But here we are the day after, and we're still processing everything we saw. It's still kind of like, what happened last night? Evita, welcome to the show. Give me your sort of, you know, I heard some of the stuff you said last night.

I went back in and got a chance to listen. But, you know, it is different after you sort of metabolize what happened last night and you wake up and you go, what was that? And where are we as a country knowing now for sure what we know about Joe Biden and his cognitive decline? There were a lot of pleasant surprise last night for me. When we went into it, knowing that, you know, CNN had no live audience, that it was being run by CNN, that there was all these kind of questions about integrity of this debate and the press not being allowed in. I was really worried. I actually didn't hate the questions that were asked. I actually thought that having no audience was a benefit to Trump because the silence sort of made

the gaps and the pauses from Biden even more pronounced, right? There's no audience noise, sort of breaking it up, making it more normal. So all of the things and the accommodations that they tried to make for Biden ultimately highlighted his cognitive decline, which is at the center of this debate. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I was also not sure that I would like no audience because I love how Donald Trump feeds off of audiences and he and how he you know what I love about Donald Trump and it's not what everybody loves I am just a very weird person like this I love how fun he makes politics and I love when he has these you

know zingers and he's you know attacking people but it's not everybody's cup of tea and this format ended up being like what the average American wanted, right? Like not a big political junkie who thinks politics is fun, but really like people who just want answers to just where we're going in this country. And so I think that that format really did do that. On top of it, a lot of people were aware that the the rules of this debate were favoring Joe Biden, that Joe Biden had been holed up with 17 advisers for a week preparing for this. Donald Trump, you know, was having to play catch up on his campaign game and also getting a few, you know, games of golf as well. you know, games of golf as well. He just was having a much more relaxed schedule. And also, like I said, hitting the campaign trail, two very different strategies. And Joe Biden just really bombed. And I think people were aware that the rules were stacked against Trump,

that Trump is used to fighting with, you know, one, two hands behind his back. And, you know, he still came out ahead and looking very presidential, which is sort of like that thing that even Republicans who vote for Trump but aren't sure sometimes say, I just wish he would be more presidential. Well, they got that last night. And there was this amazing moment where they're going back and forth about golf and who would beat who in golf and trump has you know steps in and he's like what does he say i think he says you know let's just a little bit childish this is silly let's not do this uh and it wasn't biden that

did that right we're always told by the media that trump's the unruly one he's out of control and suddenly it was it was trump being like no let's let's keep this a little more presidential which was really funny. And I also think that they had the silencing of the mics, right? This is another Biden standard that we have to have the mics turned off if the person is not allowed to be

talking at that time. Biden, I noticed, was talking over his silenced mic way more than Trump was. So it turned out we all thought Trump was going to be the problem. And it was actually Biden who was kind of out of control. Well, the other thing, Evita, was that if you were listening to this on the radio, you really did not understand what happened on that debate.

The real devastating moments for Joe Biden were when he was just staring off into space, when he looks like he belonged in a memory home, you know, when he looked like like the way he looked on that European G7 tour, when he sort of just, you know, everybody's talking and he's sort of looking up at the sky and then wanders off to like his imaginary friend off to the left. And then Giorgio Maloney has to be like the the the prime minister of italy is like the visiting angel nurse who kind of comes back and brings them back over to the to where all the other seniors you know are playing you know um bingo i mean this is we realize in those silent

moments where he was he was very clear there was nothing behind the eyes those were the most devastating moments worse than any flubs any buffering that he had any you know uh you know confusion that he had in his answers some of them that didn't make sense and of course if he did the best moment i think that really solidified it because this is where donald trump is good when donald trump says what everybody is thinking right and he says i don't really know what he just said. And I don't think he knows what he said either. And we all just laughed. I mean, I was I was in a viewing party for the GOP in Georgia for Fox Nation. And it was just this moment where he just captured what everyone was thinking. Now, here's what I want to know.

I want to know what Gen Z is thinking. And that's your generation. I know, you know, we know some of the problems and divisions in the Democrat Party. But we, you know, with Gaza and Palestine and Israel, and there's a big generational divide on that issue within the party. But when you pull people from your generation, the number one concern they have is housing and cost of living. So I just would like to get your perspective as somebody from that generation. And I know you you you're probably more conservative, a lot more conservative than people in the average person in your generation. But you are following TikTok very closely, much more closely than old people like me. And I'd like to know what the, I know you have the pulse on it. So tell me what's going on, how they took on this, how they took, took this debate and, and, and, and metabolized it. Well, I did my research. I did my TikTok research. I scrolled through my feed all morning,

practically with young people thought, listen, the consensus was, and this is a quote, we're cooked. Cooked is some lingo. Basically, for Gen Z, that basically means we're screwed. They were deeply, deeply unhappy with both candidates. Mostly unhappy with Biden because they feel most Gen Zers are left wing. They feel like the Democratic Party has forced him on them, that they've been let down. They don't want to vote for him. They believe he's senile.

Tons of videos making fun of him, making fun of the stare, talking about how he's stuttering. And then a lot more basically just saying we're really unhappy with both of these candidates with the system at large there's some talk about rfk um i think and i'm a conservative like you have everybody knows i think this is an opportunity for republicans and for trump specifically in this election to message to gen z because they feel abandoned by the democratic party who thinks they own them and suddenly we're realizing actually, Gen Z is up for grabs. So whoever can say, we're going to bring down the cost of education, the cost of housing, the cost of health care. And by the way, the reason that those sectors of the economy are expensive is because of government involvement spearheaded by Democrats.

If we could just tell Gen Z this, we could accurately message to them and not just give up on them and pretend like they're giving up to the Democrats because they're not. I think it would be amazing for the right. So I hope that happens. What I'm telling you from what I saw, we have a golden ticket opportunity to win over Gen Zers because they are completely disillusioned with the Democratic Party. So I want to play a TikTok that you sent me just to kind of lay the groundwork of like for people who don't. I mean, a lot of conservatives aren't on TikTok. And when they see sort of the crazy protests on campus, for example, they just think it's this really fringe group.

And maybe it is a view that maybe you can dispel that. It seems to me like there's, you know, among the educated Gen Zers, that there's a lot more of them empathizing with the Gaza side of the Palestinian side of things. I'm going to play this TikTok. side of the Palestinian side of things. I'm going to play this tick tock. You tell me how typical this person is and and what kind of of role they play in this intergenerational war on the Democrat Party. And then we'll talk about what some of these opportunities are. Here we go. Trump calling Biden a bad Palestinian, no, a weak one. He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him because he's a very bad Palestinian, no, a weak one. He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him

because he's a very bad Palestinian. He's a weak one. Options for president are either an elderly man who possibly is going to collapse at any moment that lies about treaty deals and is basically bent over for Israel. Or we have the other elderly man that says we should go harder and help Israel more, no lesser of two evils when we're dealing with two decaying evil people. Okay, that was kind of a really weird statement. He's a bad Palestinian. I don't even know what that meant. It went over my head. So break that down what we just heard. Yeah, so essentially, what's what's happening right now, and I've talked about this before, but Gen Z is extremely animated by what's happening in gaza they view the world to the prism of marxism oppressed versus oppressor israel is

the oppressors palestinians are the oppressed it's a big deal for them and they are freaking out over biden not being in support of the palestinians and what they perceive as him being ultra supportive of Netanyahu, although I think that Netanyahu would disagree with that. So they're furious at Biden for this. And they're also furious at Trump for being pro-Israel. So they just sort of feel abandoned in general. What I'll say about this, this Palestinian conflict and the way the Gen Z is viewing it, I don't think they care that much about what's happening in the Middle East. I actually think it's very performative because if you ask them in protest and talk to them about it, I don't think they care that much about what's happening in the Middle East. I actually think it's very performative because if you ask them in protest and talk to them about it, they won't even tell you where Palestine is on a map. If you say, what are your demands? What do

you want? They don't know, right? I think what's really happening is Gen Z is disillusioned. They're angry at the system. They want to tear things down. It's the same kind of anger and vitriol that we saw in 2020 during the BLM riots. And the reason that they're angry is kind of justified. They don't have the same American dream that our parents and grandparents had, right? It's difficult to buy a home. Education is through the roof. Grocery bills. I mean, this is going to be one of the first generations that is going to be less successful than their parents. So I think that they're justifiably angry. They're expressing it in kind of bizarre ways. And like I said before, it is an opportunity for Donald Trump to say, or to the right in general, to say, we're the answer. You've taken your, you know, you've taken a chance on the Dems for a long time.

Take a chance on us. And I don't mean just message them and then lie to them, because that happens a lot. Right. They will make promises to people. We'll say we're actually going to fix the entitlements that are bankrupting Gen Z. And then nobody ever fixes it because they want to win over older generations. Message to them, make genuine promises to them and then follow through. That's what I want to see. Yeah, well, at the debate, Evita, both the candidates said, I want social security. Exactly.

Although Trump tried to make the case like, look, if we don't make some adjustments, it's going to bankrupt itself. But let's be clear, these are people who both want, need old people to vote for them. And they tend to vote in higher percentages than any other demographic. So nobody wants to tick off that cohort. Here's another tweet you sent me, Evita. It says, boom, this is from Harry Sisson. Boom, he's a verified account. Boom, Biden just called out Trump for being a convicted felon.

The only convicted felon on the stage is Trump. Exactly. Never let the American people forget that Trump is a convicted felon and he breaks the law. Do young people really care about that? Because I felt like the mugshot photo just sort of and, you know, the fact that 66 percent of New York City residents thought that that trial was rigged in New York. I'm just not sure that this guy is is really has his finger on the pulse. Yeah. So this guy. So I like to call him little Harry because he looks he looks like he's 12 years old. He's basically like the Democrat Party's. You can look him up on Twitter. Everybody that's listening. Harry Sisson is essentially the Democrat Party's, you can look him up on Twitter, everybody that's listening. Harry Sisson is essentially the Democrat Party's official liaison to Gen Z. And he's the worst.

So all through the debate, me and some others like Savannah Hernandez, you can look her up on Twitter as well, she's a really smart girl, were making fun of this guy. Because he was like, Biden, Zinger,inger boom biden she just won that point it was completely devoid and divorced from reality and that's the only gen z-er that i saw saying that biden did a good job the guy that's essentially being paid by the democrats to message to gen z and make it appear like gen z is in favor of biden thinks he's doing great he's the only one i saw making these kind of statements, which I think is really fascinating. And that's fascinating. Also, on the heels of just over the last month, you know, all the stories that have come out of how part of the Biden campaign strategy was like, how do we pay more influencers to

carry our message? Which was so interesting. And Sean and I talked about it on one of the podcasts, which is like Donald Trump is the is the product, right? They don't Donald Trump doesn't need influencers to do that for him. He just does it now. He just does it himself. He is he is the messenger with the message and everyone else just sort of adjust to that. You talked about the possibility and I want to move to what the Democrats do now, but I want to put a button on what you said about the opportunity that Republicans have,

if they're smart enough to seize on this opportunity of Gen X being so dissatisfied with the system and with Democrats who they've given their vote to in the past. So one thing that has been interesting in the black vote, we are seeing this increase that we've never seen before, this trend among black men towards the Republican Party. I would have guessed that it would have been older black men, you know, relating to Donald Trump, maybe because of the age, maybe because of a lot of the issues that he's championing. And yet the trend of black men towards Donald Trump and the Republican Party is coming primarily from young black men. That is a demographic that has never even seemed worth trying for the Republican Party. So what is happening there? And what does that tell

you, Evita, about the possibilities that yes, indeed, if the if the Republicans are smart, they could message through an economic message to win over Gen Z? Well, that doesn't surprise me in the slightest about young black men, because young men in general are turning in droves to the right. And this, it's just it makes sense on its face. I mean, everybody, we all know how the left treats young men. They call their masculinity toxic. If they're too rambunctious in the classroom, they put them on Ritalin, an ADHD drug. ADHD drug, right? This is what the left does not respect men and actually sets up systemic programs and initiatives that elevate other groups outside of them. Black women in STEM,

women for, you know, mathematics, girls for STEM, Sam and opportunities all going to women or different minorities and men are left behind and men are demonized. So this 100 percent makes sense to me that young black men are or are attracted to the right and specifically attracted to Trump because. But that we may have stopped for a second because that does not make sense. Stop for a second, because that does not make sense. Black men in the whole DEI victim, you know, sort of hierarchy would be beneficiaries of the opportunities out there. Yeah. So so so. But I think men in general are demonized. It's true that masculinity is demonized. So that's black or white men are not. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. But when it comes to just, I think, men in general viewing this election, you are seeing a display of confidence and masculinity. And if you're a guy, and just if you're an American in general, but especially if you're a guy, you you don't want to be led by a beta male. And I think that is what we're seeing with Joe Biden. Trump exudes the kind of leadership that you want to see, or at least comparatively much better than Joe Biden. And it just nobody is excited to vote for someone like that. I think I think it makes sense to me why men in general, young men in general are turning away from Joe Biden. We'll be back with much more after this. From the Fox News Podcast Network, I'm Janice Dean, Fox News senior meteorologist. Be

sure to subscribe to the Janice Dean podcast at Fox News podcast dot com or wherever you listen to your podcasts. And don't forget to spread the sunshine. All right. I'm going to turn now to Jill Biden. So back in 2021, I said this on the couch. This was the summer of 2021. Listen, I'm sorry, as a political spouse, I can't help but look at Jill Biden. No one knew better his state of mind than Jill, Dr. Jill Biden. And if you ask me, the most patriotic thing Jill Biden could have done was tell her husband to love her husband and not let him run in these in this mental state that he's in. I think she failed the country as well. OK, so I said that I thought it was pretty tame because I actually have a lot of much harsher words to say about about how she treats her

husband. And I said that all of a sudden, and I was one of the first to come out and say it out because we were in that phase where people were still very reluctant because they're like, well, we're not doctors, we can't diagnose it. It was still very, it was obvious to me that that's why they had him in the basement, Evita,

during the campaign. They didn't want him to flub and she knew that. There was no COVID reason why he was in the basement. They did that because they knew he wasn't at the top of his game mentally. And, of course, he has declined precipitously since he's been in office. But I said that the first lady's office, Jill Biden, was furious. She had her press secretary whip out a press release saying that my remarks were disgusting, that I should be fired from my job. Of course, this went all the way up into Fox. Thankfully, my company did not take this like very seriously. And that was the end of it. But they were definitely trying and getting all the forces. You know how the left works. They get Media Matters involved. They try to gin up this sort of like astroturf online campaign to get somebody fired. And they tried to do that with me in that case. And it didn't work. And I feel very vindicated after yesterday. I mean, I feel sad for the country. And I want to talk about that because I actually think there's some huge national security implications from last night's debate now that it is exposed for the whole world to see how vulnerable we are.

And nobody quite knows who's running the show. But the fact that Jill Biden and in a political relationship between a husband and a wife, in our case, my case was the same as Jill's. Our husbands were in office. When you're the political spouse, it is almost a sacred bond with your spouse, who's the candidate or the member of Congress, or in her case, the president. Because when you're in a position of power like that, there are people all around your husband and all of these people have an agenda and all of them have their own views on how things should be for all kinds of reasons. There are also people who are money

hungry, power hungry. That's not to say that there aren't some good, well-intentioned people. But in that sphere, there is only one person who has nothing but the best interest of the candidate or the president or, in my case, the member of Congress. And that is the spouse, because the spouse obviously just wants what's best for that for their for their husband. And in the case of Jill, it's such a betrayal. I was at a diner this morning, and I was interviewing a woman. First of all, the most shocking thing is that without a doubt, all of the women and overwhelmingly the women, almost exclusively the women, they were angry at Jill Biden. All the women in this diner in Georgia that I was at. One woman said to me, Evita, she said, I wouldn't even treat my ex-husband like that.

And he was Satan. So that's how women feel. There is a protective thing we have over our husbands. If you love your husband, you want the best for him. There is no way that what this woman has done can be anything but elder abuse. It's a betrayal of her vows to protect and love her husband. And I mean, and so you hear all the pundits now saying, you know, what's going to happen to Joe Biden? And, you know, there's a take Schumer Joe Biden? And, you know, they're saying it takes Schumer and Pelosi and Obama.

Who's going to do this? Well, actually, it only takes one person to end this, this, this, whatever we saw last night, this campaign, this disaster, this humiliation, this public humiliation of this man. And it takes a good woman, takes a wife, a loving wife who cares about him and cares about his dignity, cares about his legacy. But unfortunately for Joe Vita, he does not have that in jail. No. And I'll say I tweeted this out today and I stand by it. When that fiasco came and they said the White House, the first lady's press secretary said racial campus stuff. He needs to apologize for saying this back in 2021. You did not apologize. And we should not apologize for saying things that are true.

We never apologize for the truth. And had more people been truthful to Joe Biden, had Jill Biden been truthful with her own husband, we wouldn't be in the situation that we're in right now where we don't even know who's running the country. This is a national security threat that we're facing right now. On a global stage, Joe Biden has showed the world that he's not all there that's a really scary prospect for not just the american people but for us on a global level to our enemies abroad it's a big deal so if people have been truthful we could be out of situation right now and i'll i agree with you 100 that if you really care about your husband or your wife, you would never put

them in the situation that Jill Biden has put or put Biden in. And I wonder and maybe we don't want to go there because could be a little bit speculative, but none of this is substantiated. There are some rumors, some rumors out there that Jill had a rocky relationship with the Obamas. And that's not that's not a rumor, Vita. That is pretty well known. And in fact, the Daily Mail just reported this past week that Michelle Obama has never campaigned on behalf of Joe Biden. Her husband has, but she hasn't.

Part of the reason, Vita, is that Michelle Obama is very close friends with Hunter Biden's ex-wife. And that woman and Michelle Obama are friends. That woman was very badly treated by the Biden family. You can read all about it. You know, I won't get into it. It doesn't surprise me at all. No, of course.

That's not surprising at all, right? They abandoned their granddaughter, Navy. Right. Well, there was that also, you know, Hunter, you know, was a crack addict who, you know, had an affair with his brother's widow. I mean, this is a very strange family. And in fact, Barack Obama is known to have said that he was on on record. Somebody quoted him saying that he thought the family was weird as shit. That's a quote. So and I don't think people know most people can can, you know, believe that that's probably true. That said, I think there was probably some bad blood while they were in, you know, in office together while the Bidens were the vice presidents. We know that it's the Obamas who pushed Kamala Harris.

And Jill Biden hates Kamala Harris because Kamala Harris accused Joe of being a racist with the busing situation during that debate back in, what is it, in 2020 primary. So, you know, there's a lot of really bad blood feelings there. in what is it, 20 in 2020 primary. So, you know, there's a lot of really bad blood feelings there. I think every time Joe F's up, right. The Obama's like, there they go again. And Jill is like, you're not going to take this away from me. You know, like she's going to write the ship.

And so right now you're seeing it. Last night should have been a wake up call to her. All right. The jig is up. The emperor has no clothes. The media is not covering for us anymore. Let's just wrap this up. Find a solution. Be part of the solution. She could say, listen, I want to be part of picking the next person. I don't like Kamala. It has to be somebody else. But that's not where she's at. She literally left that debate performance, guided him off the stage like a visiting angel, like a nurse, guided him off the stage, and then they went to the Waffle House where she said, you did so good.

You've answered all the questions, Joe. Just like the way I talk to Valentina and I say, oh, just like the way I talked to Valentina. And I say, oh, Valentina, you ate all your Cheerios today. You colored inside the lines. I mean, it is absolute insanity what we're seeing. And she's continuing. They went to a rally afterwards that was depressing. And he stood in the back of her she was you know campaigning as if she was the candidate and he was staring off into space again with that same you know i want to go back to my memory care you know room you know at you know whatever that facility is in the background it was so awful and cruel and again i'm going'm going back to this point, Evita.

It was the women at the diner who kept repeating over and over how disgusted they were by Jill's behavior. I want to read you this tweet, this ex-post that came from a guy named Dougie Pass. Again, it just says that he's a Seabreeze Capital Partners LP. So he's some kind of finance guy. And he says, so you know how these circles are up in the East Coast where all this money is raised with all these financial types of people. His tweet says, and again, I have no way to substantiate this. I'm just going to say I think it tracks. says, and again, I have no way to substantiate this. I'm just going to say I think it tracks. It says, what I'm hearing regarding Joe Biden, Ron, what I am hearing regarding Joe Biden, Ron Klain and Barack Obama are having a sit down with the president today.

Jill Biden is insistent that Joe runs. That tracks with me, Evita. Kamala is furious that she is not being considered as a replacement. Whitmer and Newsom are. Interestingly, my neighbor in East Hampton is hosting the Bidens tomorrow. It will be an important tell if the fundraiser is canceled. That tweet, that X post got six point six million views. So I think, again, that is that that tracks that sounds about right. That sounds like there's right now a lot of turmoil going on inside the Democratic Party because it's complicated. I was just reading a post in Revolver by Darren Beatty, and he was going through just how complicated it is to change the rules in order to make this happen, sort of from the DNC convention rules and these different committees that have to change the rules.

They are stacked with Biden loyalists. So if the Bidens aren't 100 percent on board, this is not going to happen. Bidens aren't 100 percent on board. This is not going to happen. And even if the Bidens are one get 100 percent on board after getting pressure from Joe, from Barack and Michelle and Ron Klein and and and, you know, Axelrod and all the power players in the in the Democrat Party. Even if that happens, then all these Democrats have to find a consensus candidate that they all agree on. And this is very late in the game and very difficult to accomplish. And so this is a very complicated situation that there this is a very difficult situation they find them in. And they're in this position not just because the media acted like the emperor had closed and everybody in the white house who knew he was napping and wandering off in the halls and everything else that was probably happening

that nobody told um yet the media you had the generals remember when when um austin um the secretary of defense austin um when he got sick and joe biden didn't even and he was he was it was off duty and no and he was getting a surgery and nobody knew where he was and joe b Biden didn't even and he was he was it was off duty and no and he was getting a surgery and nobody knew where he was and Joe Biden didn't know where he was he is not in command there and all of those people are implicated in this all of them are but no one is more guilty than Jill Biden because Jill Biden didn't love her husband enough um she didn't love her husband enough um she loved power more. She loved revenge on the Obamas more. She loved the perks of her office more. She loved getting up and

pretending like she was the candidate more. She loved the adulation more. And the only caveat, Evita, that might justify this a little bit is that both Joe and Jill know that they are better off in power and protecting their criminal family if they are in power and have the power of the pardon. That might be the only, it's still a bad thing, but it's the only thing that would make me think there's something remotely altruistic for her family in this. I have to tell you, I woke up pretty anxious this morning. After last night, I was kind of, you know, elated, like, that was that was a slam dunk, like Trump, right out of the water. But we did, I mentioned at the beginning of the show that I did the live stream with Dan Bongino last night. And Dan said, I hope Trump wins, but not by too much. Because if it's by too much, they'll replace him. And then we have a problem. And that's where I'm

at right now. I think they are in panic mode. Democrats, they made this debate happen before well before the DNC, they're going to replace him with someone. And I remember Dan mentioning this a few weeks ago, he said, I think it's gonna he thinks it's gonna be Hillary, but he thinks Biden is going to be replaced. And I kind of laughed. I was like, it's never gonna happen. He's not gonna step down. Not this late in the game. There's no way. Now I think he's right. And that's a that's a problem for us. And I'll tell you why it's a big problem for us because a candidate like trump with the name recognition and and and the energy and the

momentum like there's no way that they would he would lose especially against a candidate as unelectable as joe biden it's possible if you think about what happened this week with the Murthy v. Missouri Supreme Court case, which essentially says that the federal government now has the power officially to tell social media companies to censor information that they don't like, which means as of now, we do not have freedom of information on the Internet. we do not have freedom of information on the internet. So a new, shiny new candidate, coupled with massive tech censorship, the likes of which we have never seen.

You think 2020 was bad. It's about to get a lot worse. We're in a very dangerous situation on the right. So while everybody's kind of celebrating, I've had a lot of anxiety today, if I'm gonna be honest with you. We'll have more of this conversation after this. My anxiety was different. I'm going to say I had not thought about that, what you just said,

which actually terrifies me. I also woke up with, you know, my initial was like giddiness, right? Good for Trump. You know, he killed it. And, you know, the country might be saved. And I had that sort of very superficial sort of feeling. Then I thought about he's got, you know, what, six, seven months left. And I and and trying to disrupt the Western Hemisphere, what would I do if I was the bad actor? And I started to think, you know, because I did see some of Trump's, you know, Trump had a rally in Virginia and he sort of stuck the knife in and twisted it and enjoyed it, which, you know, you can't blame the guy. Right. I mean, they've been doing so much to him that he's having, you know, really great months. And this week has been great. Some of those Supreme Court cases have been very good for Donald Trump, especially the one about J6, the Fisher case. But that I almost wish that he wouldn't have done that. I wish that he had taken Virginia with a different tone and said, now you know why I've been really worried about America. And I think he should have asked for the 25th Amendment to be invoked that because we're at that stage.

They would have done this to Donald Trump a thousand times over if he had had even remotely this kind of mental failing. This what we saw last night is worthy of the 25th Amendment. That would put Kamala Harris in charge, which might be better for for the long term, for the election, I should say. I'm sorry. You're going to give me a little lesson here, mom. What is the 25th Amendment? That's where you can say that he basically has a disability. Remember when Donald

Trump was in office and Mika Brzezinski and Joe Scarborough and all these leftists were trying to say that Donald Trump was not mentally stable. And they basically developed this whole media campaign that he was not stable, not capable, not mentally with it. And then Donald Trump did something remarkable. He decided to have a meeting, a bipartisan, like sort of cabinet level meeting with a bunch of people. And he handled it as a CEO with so much mental acuity and brilliance. And just the way he probably runs Trump, you know, his own operation. And people could see the businessman in action handling this meeting with such grace and finesse and intelligence.

And suddenly that was all it took. They stopped talking about the 25th Amendment. And so what you saw last night, Avita, is a man who's not capable. I mean, with all of the dangerous situations we're in right now, you know, people aren't even talking about the Houthis who are attacking not, you know, our ships and not just the shipping, but also our military ships with these terrorists, you know, you know, attacking us. No one's talking about it. Nobody's talking about what's happening in Latin America. Nobody's talking about, you know, the implication of American weapons being shot from Ukraine into Russia and how that could trigger a nuclear war.

I think I think Russia is exhibiting a lot of restraint. But how long will that last? They've already said we're going to we're going to have to counterattack because of what you're doing, America. How would you like it if Russia, they said, launched, you know, through through through Venezuela, launched weapons into your country. You know, so things are getting really heated. And you have a man who's not obviously running the country and nobody knows exactly who we know. We think it's Obama, but who exactly?

And when you have all these cooks in the kitchen and not one executive in charge, definitively in charge, this is when you can have mistakes and problems. And you could have an accident, we could sleepwalk, we could have an accidental thing happen. And suddenly, it's like the Cuban Missile Crisis all over again, and we're facing nuclear annihilation. And so this is troubling on so many levels. And I think we're at that point. I wish Donald Trump had opened the debate without such a glib tone and had really talked more directly and right at the beginning about that concern. And so I listen, Evita, I I'm I'm worried. I want to give you your last thoughts on on the debate and the long term implications or the short term and the long term implications

for the country and for your generation? Yeah, so I'll just leave. I think it's good to talk about what I know best. I'll talk about Gen Z for a second. Sure. I think that there is a tendency on the right to say Gen Z is lost to the Democrats, and that's not true. Now, we need to effectively message to them. And I think there's a there's a consultant class in the country that is advising Republican candidates in a very poor way. Democrats, they're on TikTok. Democrats have influencers, as Joe Biden likes to talk about. They are doing the work to go to the

places where Gen Z is at. And Republicans are not doing that. And if you are a Republican who wants those votes and who cares about this generation's future, you will start to address entitlements. You will start to talk to them like adults about why the sectors of the economy health care education and housing is so expensive and why it's the government involvement that's making it that way and tell them how you are going to bring those prices down that even then they need to talk about oil if you do i mean part of i mean a huge there's two reasons why we're facing these costs of living expenses that are skyrocketing, this inflation that's skyrocketing. One is the amount of money that was spent by Donald Trump, but then doubled down, tripled down by Joe Biden in the COVID rescue package that he passed that everybody warned him, don't do it. Don't give any more of this free money. It's going to raise the inflation. Remember, Larry Summers warned him,

he was a Democrat, warned him that would happen. And sure enough, they said it was transitory. Don't worry, it'll go down. It didn't. And so one is government spending. Government spending and waste is raising inflation. And the other, of course, is the way that we are waging a war on American energy. And young kids have a lot to do with that. They have bought hook, line and sinker, Evita, the whole climate agenda, which is, you know, anti-human, anti-family and ends up there. They're the ones that are going to suffer from from us restraining the fact that we, as Donald Trump said last night, we have liquid gold under our feet and the whole world runs on energy and cheap energy. And that's that's how people are living right now. And and

we're purposely tying our hands behind our back. Do you think Gen Z is willing to listen to a pro-American energy policy when they've been indoctrinated since preschool on climate change? Yes. No fossil fuels? Well, they're not if you don't try. That's my response. I mean, they have been inculcated with a bunch of left-wing lies about the climate about the economy about the the price of college their whole lives

so what do you expect if you don't do anything about it if you don't reach out to them you don't start making short form video content on platforms that they're actually on, you will lose. It's just that simple. You have to just at least try. Otherwise, yeah, of course, they're not going to listen. And by the way, Gen Z doesn't even know half of the things about the climate that I've done a lot of. Think about this. In the last 100 years, climate related disaster deaths have plummeted by 99% because of fossil fuels. We don't know that all genzy hears about is that the earth is on fire and people are dying because of hurricanes and floods actually it's a fossil fuels that are the reason people are protected from the disasters of the natural

world which have plagued humanity for its entire existence they are are never told that. So what do you expect from that? Air conditioning is a blessing to humanity. I'm sorry. You know, and we can go on and on about it. I'm going to end with this, Evita. Not to make you more depressed, but the New York Times didn't, their headline this morning was not that Joe Biden bombed the debate.

Their headline was a story about Iran, a story about Julian Assange, and then way, way, way down the bottom in the little corner was the debate. That explains a lot about how we have gotten here. And the whole reason why we've had the emperor has no clothes going on and everyone's saying he did for the last two years when you have the record, you know, the New York Times, which is, you know, known as the newspaper of record, absolutely ignoring the only thing Americans were talking about today because the stakes are so high and the implications are so huge on every level for people's pocketbooks, for our national security, for our future. It's just it's unbelievable.

Well, I love that we got to talk about it. I love that we got to talk a little bit about Jill as well, who has been a the opposite of a patriot throughout this entire thing. It's great talking to you. You did a fantastic job on Bongino. I had so many people tell me that when I was at the diner in Georgia, which meant they weren't watching me on Fox Nation. So I kind of had a chuckle about that and remind them they were supposed to watch Fox Nation, but they were watching you.

Anyway, I love you. And thanks for joining me today. Love you, too. Awesome conversation. Take care. Bye, everybody. Listen ad free with a Fox News podcast plus subscription on Apple podcast and Amazon Prime members can listen to the show ad-free on the Amazon Music app. From the Fox News Podcast Network, subscribe and listen to the Trey Gowdy Podcast.

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