From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Joe Concha On President Biden's "Terrible, Horrible, No-Good, Very Bad Presidency"

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down with Fox News Contributor and author of the new book, "Come On, Man!: The Truth About Joe Biden's Terrible, Horrible, No-Good, Very Bad Presidency", Joe Concha.   Joe shares the most striking things he learned about President Biden while researching for his book, shares his favorite memories from growing up in the 1980s, and details his rise from a salesman to a television and radio personality.   Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Thank you, Sean. It's so great to be around our kitchen table. And so let's just get right to it because we have a good friend with us today. And he is a Fox News contributor. As I mentioned, he's our friend and he is the author of Come On, Man. It's Joe Concha. Joe Concha, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. Come on, man. I love saying that, Joe. It's like the best title for a book. Is it the title that put you on the New York Times bestseller, Joe? Hi, Duffies. I think the title helps, right? Title and timing, they say when you're writing books.

You guys know this, having bestsellers yourself. But my publisher, after the fact, he goes, you know, the one regret I have is that we didn't name it what I thought of after we already started printing them. I go, what's that? He goes, we should have called it The Big Guy. That's a good point. It's just more fun saying, come on, man. Come on, man. Precisely.

What is the byline under that? Give me that. This is the no good, horrible. I think I finally remembered it without having to look at the book. Joe Biden's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad presidency. I believe we stole that from a children's book, but no lawsuits have come in yet. Thank God. It's a great movie, too, by the way.

It is a great movie. It's great. And families. Our kids love it. So, Joe, before we get into the book, you know, a lot of times at Fox, we meet people, we make friends with people that we work with. We host and co-host and interview and do panels together. But we don't always get the back story

of who is Joe Concha. Who is Joe Concha? So just tell us a little bit about yourself and just kind of how you ended up at Fox. We want to know about the author. The author? I'll be honest with you. I needed money, you know.

You should write a book. Everybody at Fox. Oh, okay. Let's see. Where to begin? Tell us how you ended up in TV. Born and raised in New Jersey, where you guys reside now. And as you can see, you probably heard so many horrible things about New Jersey.

And you're like, hey, it's actually kind of nice. And I almost feel like I'm in the country here. It is. Really, really pretty place. Great foliage out by you at this time of year. But I grew up here. I went to University of Maryland. I was in broadcasting as early as high school where I was on a community access show called Rock and Roll TV. So that was kind of cool. And then from there, college just did the radio station thing and called college basketball games. And I really like sports. So I tried to get into sports broadcasting. I was a producer at a little

station in New York called New York One owned by Time Water. And I was doing post games at Yankee Stadium after games and then just realized after a couple of years that is so competitive, trying to get into sports, trying to get hired by ESPN or Fox Sports. So I said, you know what? into sports trying to get hired by ESPN or Fox Sports. So I said, you know what? Let me go into sales. Game up. You would think, oh, happy ending.

Well, not quite. So I sold like video conferencing for a wonderful IT company called Cisco. It's like a Fortune 100 type of company. They treat you really well. They let you work from home before working from home was kind of a thing. Then I was making good money and I'm cruising along and I get married and I'm about to have my first kid and I'm on a boat going from Nantucket to Martha's Vineyard or maybe it was the other way around. I remember just reading a book. It sounds so pretentious when I say that.

Did Governor Abbott send you there? He did. Yes, he flew me in. They kicked me out immediately, just like those other folks. And I was just thinking, I'm like, you know, what am I doing? I should be on television. I know I'm I feel like I other folks. And I was just thinking, I'm like, you know, what am I doing? I should be on television. I know I'm, I feel like I'm settling. I think the reason why I was thinking this, because my 40th birthday was coming soon, and you kind of like reflect on your life. I'm like, this is, while I'm comfortable, I feel like I'm settling, and I should just take a chance

and try to get in the television. So I started writing for this site called Mediaite, which covers like the cable news industry. And then before you know it, I'm getting booked on Fox News, and I'm getting booked on CNN, and I'm doing a decent job as a guest. And before you know it, I'm getting booked even more and more. And then The Hill notices me, I guess, on TV a lot, so they hire me to be a full-time media reporter. And then eventually, Fox signs me to be a contributor. So it was kind of like a really twisty, turny way to get to where I am now. I love it.

I'm so glad I had that thought on that boat, you know, basically 10 years ago. So you're so glad you had a midlife crisis on the boat. Some people buy Porsches. I decided to go for a career change. But I think that the trick was. It's a good story. But I thought, all right, I'm not going to make the same mistake again and do what everybody else does and get into some sort of competitive type of field. And I just remember watching the news and watching cable news and just being like,

wait a minute, that was just dishonest what that person said. Or wait a minute, that sounds more like an activist than a journalist. And then I found myself writing about it. And it turned out there weren't too many me's out there as far as media, right? As far as people who cover it. I'm like, wait, I got to be better than that Brian Stelter kid? This will be easy. And here we are. The bar is low. The bar is low.

So, Joe, you started doing hits on TV. Those are for free. You do those to give your opinion. You're on TV. And then The Hill notices that. They hire you. And at that point, did you quit your job at Cisco and take the job at The Hill and start writing full-time? Is that how it happened?

Oh, well, for a while, I kept both. When did your wife want to kill you? No, you did. You did both. Okay. Oh, yeah. No, I did both and even had a show on a station called Newsmax. So I was juggling a lot.

It was like a one-hour show. But it was when they first like launched that, that TV station and the community access station that I worked on in high school looked better than whatever I was doing. It was just, it was, they weren't quite ready yet, but I, you know, it's fine. So I did that for a year. So I was doing TV show at night. I was still selling for Cisco cause I had basically a book of clients. So I just, all I had to do was just get renewal contracts out of them. It wasn't all that hard. And then from there, I also was writing for The Hill and all these things I could do from home. So all I did was just kind of bounce back and forth. And then one time, I remember a top executive at Cisco, he pulls me aside, right?

He says, I want to talk to you about something. I said, yeah, sure. What's up? He goes, well, before I wanted to have this conversation with you, I did look up your numbers and your over quota every quarter. He says, that's good. He goes, but then I turned the TV last night and you're talking to Megyn Kelly and I'm just kind of confused how you're doing that and you're working for us. I said, you know, it's work-life balance. That's more of a hobby. It's no big deal. He goes, well, keep up the good work. And is Megyn really as pretty in person as she is, you know, on TV? I'm like, all right. Yeah, I guess so. You know, I don't know. So they were kind of like starstruck.

I thought I was going to get fired. But now I've simplified things down to The Hill and Fox and, you know, the book writing. And, again, most of it I do from home. Once in a while I come in to see you, Rachel or Sean. I'm on a set with you. But for the most part, yeah, it's from the basement. I'm the original Joe in his basement.

I really, really love it and i have to say like you know when we're as a host when we get our lineup of who's coming on the show when we see your name on there we know it's going to be a fun segment i think one of the things i i you know from this interview and and just from knowing you i know you love sports what i like about you joe is you love pop culture and you're not ashamed of it you're like me you just kind of dig into it and um you always have something interesting to say really quick tell us what is it about pop culture that you love it's the escapism right and just when you work hard and you have kids just once in a while it's good to but i've been addicted to cobra kai over over the last couple weeks i've been binging youinging on that. You and Sean Duffy. Oh, really? Well, no.

The first two seasons I was into, Joe, and then it kind of started getting off kilter for me. I'm like, ah, I started to lose it. My kids are still watching it, but I bailed after season two. But what a fascinating concept. It's amazing how we have two instances where you have movies that existed 35 years ago, right? With Top Gun and with Karate Kid. And then 35 years later, they're using the same characters,

and they don't look all that different than they did in the movie. I mean, between Tom Cruise, Ralph Macchio, and the kid who plays Johnny Lawrence. I mean, it's kind of, they age, sure, but you would think, it used to be, if you were in your mid to late 50s, that you looked old, right? Like, here's a little pop culture trivia for you. How old was Wilford Brimley when they made Cocoon? Remember the movie about the old people that jump on the fountain of youth and they all

become young? 49. He's 49 in that movie. And I'm looking at myself. Oh my goodness. I'm 51. I had no idea. There's hope.

Yeah, I know. Isn't that crazy? that movie and i'm looking at myself goodness i'm 51 i'm like yeah there's hope yeah i know isn't that crazy or or ralph uh who was it um the the guy who played uh mr miyagi at pat marita right was 51 in the original karate kid yet he's referred to as the old man throughout it i'm like wait that's my age so i i don't know what what gets me but joe i look at my grandma and then i look at my mom and i know how old my grandmother was when she died and what she looked like. She was like in her 70s and she was like in a black dress with a little white hair and a bun. And I look at my mom who's over 80. My mom looks great.

So I think that, you know, it's like 70 is the new 50 or 50 is new 70. Which way does that go? Well, you get what I'm saying. 70 is the new 50, yeah. Can I go to the, on the Karate Kid? Johnny Lawrence, who, you know, when he comes back in this remake called Cobra Kai, he comes back with his Trans Am,

and he's listening to 1980s rock music still, and he's drinking beer, and his life's a mess. But he hasn't left the 80s and the belly tournament that he lost to Ralph Macchio in. That's right. You know what? Because the 80s was, we did a whole episode on this, Sean. We did the whole Tom Cruise and the whole phenomenon behind the remake.

And the 80s were a good time. I mean, even if you think, we're going to get to your book, and this is a little bit political, but you just look at the politics. You look at schools. You look at everything was just better in the 80s, wasn't it? It was. And Johnny drank Coors Banquet, by the way. Like, he's still drinking the beer that no one drinks anymore, you know? I loved it when he bought a computer because he wanted to go on the internet so he could start to advertise Cobra Kai because he was hanging up, like, flyers all around, you know, on telephone poles, which, again, is something you did in the 80s you don't do now.

And he buys the computer, and then he has trouble, trouble like logging on because he's never used one before. And he keeps going back to the guy he bought it from at like a used computer store. And the guy's like, look, dude, I just sell these things. I'm not your IT customer service desk. It's just too funny. But you're right about the 80s. I mean, you think about it. Boy, we had peace.

We had prosperity and we had fun. We had prosperity. And we had fun. That was the most important thing. Right? Durant, Durant. Everyone was off their phones. And people went on dates. And people hung out. My kids watch Stranger Things.

And they all come to me and say, what was it like in the 80s? It seems so cool. And I'm like, it was cool. People went to malls back then? I'm like, yeah, we went to malls. They went to malls. Yeah, that's where we hung out. And they actually think it's a cool idea.

I think it's because kids nowadays, they don't really have the social life we had then because we didn't have phones. We actually had to communicate with each other. And we hung out and we looked forward to the weekends and going to the mall and going to the movie theaters and going to, you know, where those are like arcades and in places like that, that we actually gathered as big groups to go do stuff.

And now they just even if they hang out, Joe, they're on their phones, like texting each other in the same room. The 80s was a John Hughes movie, right? It was a party scene in Weird Science or 16 Candles, right? And it was just there were no consequences. There was no accountability. You just did. You didn't think. You just did. And yeah, you're exactly right about that. I remember the great thing about snow days in the 80s, right? When you just tell your mom, your dad, you're like, all right, I'm going out with my friends to go sleigh riding. And all she would say is,

all right, just be back before dark. You can't try that new york city now exactly it's just a different thought process mentality now that and you're right about the phones what my friends and i do when we go out to dinner and it's a rare thing these days it's like maybe once or twice a year now but our rule is every puts everybody puts their phone in the middle of the table and the first one to reach for it they have to pay the bill how do you like that that's a great but it's also interesting like how we all met up at different places without phones and text messaging each other and you know there was all kind of happened but that's why the location was good like you didn't have to text anybody you knew that if it was saturday your friends were

going to be at the football game and then afterwards you guys would all just go somewhere or maybe it was everyone goes to the mall or there was an arcade that everyone met up at. And I just think like this constant communication just ruined everything. And also the 80s has produced the most Republican generation in a very, very long time. We're holding down the fort. We're holding down the fort, Jenna. That's true. Remember the most exciting thing in the world? Said to me, very long time. We're holding down the fort. We're holding down the fort, Jenna. That's true. Remember the most exciting thing in the world?

To me, it was anyway. When you're like 16 or 17 and you come home and it's before Saturday night and then checking the answering machine and it says you have 12 new messages, it's going to be a good night. I would change my greeting every weekend. People would just call just to hear what the new greeting was. Do you know what I remember about the phone? My phone stories are like me on the phone and then my mom needing to use the phone and getting on the other line and embarrassing me

and saying, you need to get off the phone. It would be so embarrassing. Or Star 69. Remember that? I remember when that came in, that was a big deal when Star 69 came in. But I also thought about... You have to explain Star 69 because anyone younger than us doesn't know what that is. They think we're talking about something else.

Yeah, so right now, the number pops up on your phone when someone calls you. But back in the day, we didn't have the number pop up. We didn't know who was calling you. There was no way to know. But a new tool came out from, I think, whatever it was, AT&T at the time. You could hit Star 69, and then it would tell you what the last number was that called your house. So you know, you cannot be in. You cannot be discreet when you called any longer because people could find out who was calling their house.

I remember when we went from a corded phone to a cordless phone. I was like, this is magical. I'm not tied to a cord at the phone. It's pretty amazing. And then sometimes you could hear other cordless phone conversations of neighbors. I don't know if like if you went to like 10 different channels, it's like a CV. So I did that with one neighbor particularly. But remember also the emergency breakthrough was just a horrible thing that, you know, was abused. So if somebody's line was busy and they didn't have call waiting, you did what was called an emergency breakthrough

where the operator had to tell the other person to hang up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and you could get arrested for that. I never did that, Joe. I tried that. That didn't work for me. You wonder how I never got a second date. Well...

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Come on, man. Tell us about your book, Joe. Well, it's funny. As Rachel mentioned, it was on several bestseller lists. And I think we talked before how you don't want to be in the same lane as everybody else, like with my sports career, for example. Well, I thought I was going to be in the same lane as far as writing a book about a sitting president, because I'm old enough to remember the last president, Donald Trump.

And it seemed like every week there was a book that came out on the Trump presidency, most of them negative. And you heard it from all these White House correspondents and so-called journalists saying we have to speak truth to power. And that's why I wrote this book, because we have an authoritarian in the White House. And I wrote this because democracy is at stake and all this other stuff. Well, all those people curiously have lost their inclination to write about the current president. So I looked at the landscape and there were 15 books out when my book came out on a president,

but it wasn't President Biden. It was on Donald Trump. And there was one book out on Joe Biden and you're literally talking to the author of it. So basically you're the only person in America who wanted to write about Joe Biden. Yes. Well, you know,

he doesn't give you any material to work with or anything. Oh, that's right. Completely and totally. And you go back throughout his entire life and And this man has failed upwards in everything that he's done. It's really quite remarkable because when you fail upwards, eventually you hit a ceiling, right? You can't keep going all the way up to a place, an Oval Office that only 45 people have occupied. But sure enough, he somehow got there through not just failing upwards,

but just having the greatest luck ever. And by that, what I mean is in 1988, getting back to the 80s, he ran for president. And people forget this, but he had to drop out because of plagiarism. And not just plagiarism with a small p. You know, it was like word for word from a guy who was running for prime minister of Britain. So you would think that would end his presidential aspirations. But no, he runs again in 2008, doesn't even get to Iowa. But then Barack Obama comes out of nowhere and captures the nomination. But since he was in the Senate for like five minutes and was a community organizer before that, he needed, Barack Obama did, needed somebody

old and white and had some foreign policy experience. So it came down to Joe Biden and Tim Kaine and basically threw a coin flip, Biden gets chosen. So now he's vice president of the United States. And then when he runs for president in 2020, if COVID doesn't happen, and I don't know, these sort of pandemics only come around, what, once every 100 years. Think about if there's no COVID. We were just where we were with Reagan in 1984 under Trump. Peace, prosperity, and the incumbent never gets beat in that situation, especially against a candidate like Joe Biden, who wouldn't be able to hide because there's no pandemic.

He would actually have to campaign on raising taxes and climate change, I guess, and opening the border. And I'm pretty sure that that would have been a Mondale type of landslide that he would have experienced. But he gets the pandemic. He has to he basically runs for president by pleading the fifth. The media, obviously, complete activists totally out to get Trump. And the country was in a very bad place as far as the pandemic was concerned. So, you know, Biden wins. And now we see what happens when he has real power. Like he used to be a joke. Like when he was a senator, he's only one of 100 people in one chamber. When he was vice president, it was a symbolic position for the most part. Now he has power. And now you see like he's the type of guy who will say, I think if we spend trillions more

dollars, that will lower inflation. No, I think if we start talking about reallocating funds for police, that maybe crime is going to go up. And of course it does. And then he opens the border and you see all this fentanyl coming in where 300 people are dying a day on average from overdoses. So now it's no longer a joke. It and Democratic side. Joe Biden was not successful in the Democrat primary in 2020. You remember it was Bernie Sanders who started to surge at the at the in the in the in the middle of the primary season and Democrats started to freak out going, oh, my goodness, it's not going to be Mayor Pete. What? We can't have Bernie Sanders. We might lose to Trump again. We need to find a different candidate that's not Bernie Sanders. And we all have to rally behind them. Barack Obama got involved and got all of the candidates to stand down. That's right. And pick Joe Biden so he could fail up and over Bernie Sanders and have the nomination given to him. And then COVID hit. And then he was able to hide in his basement and not talk about the issues. And then he had the cover from the media.

But it's a disastrous way to get the presidency, which would match the disaster of his presidency. You know what else is weird? That he got away with, like, he has had one of some of the worst record of like racist things you could say like literally about barack obama he said he's like the first articulate clean black person to run for high office like i mean that is like so disqualifying and the guy he's talking about chooses him as the vice president it's the most remarkable thing or you look at the kind of abuse that donald trump's kids had and i mean really you can't say much about the kids i mean they're good kids i mean they're successful they're nice kids never been in any trouble and like joe biden

kid i mean like hunter biden is still causing problems for the Biden administration. And Joe Biden was involved in all of this stuff. It is amazing what he gets away with. Particularly the Hunter Biden laptop story, right? I mean, three weeks before an election. I mean. And everybody talks about how, oh, boy, we're in such trouble since Elon Musk took over Twitter. Yeah, because it was being run so well before that, right? Censorship, locking out accounts.

And obviously, again, the media covering for Joe Biden just trying to get his old bones over the finish line. But back to that primary, Sean, that's a great point. And you remember, he got blown out in Iowa. He got blown out in New Hampshire. And he's got to win South Carolina. So he reverts to what he does best, which is lie and lie so poorly. And it is so easily fact-checked. But of course, the fact-checkers are on like, you know, a 22-month spring break now at this point. But he says that he was arrested trying to see Nelson Mandela at the height of apartheid as a sitting U.S. senator. I'm pretty sure we would have heard about this in a foreign country.

And, of course, it never happened. But he said it because he had to in South Carolina, which has a large black population. So he said whatever it could take, whatever it took. And he still says to this day that he was arrested at civil rights marches, which there is no record of whatsoever. So yeah, Rachel, to your point, that the things that he says and gets away with is utterly remarkable. I thought the turning point would be when he said that, you know, when you tuck your kids in at night, make sure they're listening to the record player. You're like, how could we elect this person? But the other candidates were so horrible or dropped out that, yeah, they cleared the lanes to get him there. And now I wonder, they lose the House, and then all those hearings are launched

into Hunter Biden and the laptop and Joe Biden's possible connection to it. Then I think he says, I'm out of here. Oh, it'll happen, believe me. And then you got to think, okay, he's gonna be like, I can't get anything done. I'm gonna be 86 years old if I run and I win again. So I think he says just like they cleared the lanes for him. He's going to clear the lane for somebody to come in. But who's going to be Gavin Newsom? What's that bumper sticker? I'll do to America what I did to California. I mean, the Democratic Party. This is my next book. There, guys, there's no Obama coming. We did the big Saturday, big Sunday show together. It was the last week or a couple weeks ago. And we had this fight.

And I think you're wrong. I think when you get to the presidency, Joe. Yeah. He has fought a lifetime. You mentioned he ran for the presidency in the 80s. He's wanted to be there his whole life. He got there. There's no way in hell that he's going to give it up willfully.

Really? No. So he was, listen, he was failing mentally. And he was he listen he was failing mentally and he was old when he ran in 2020 and he still did it his wife still let him do it yeah she's not going to give it up unless the media comes out and starts to attack him they start to tell the truth they start to expose them they start to give transparency to the biden presidency if they do that the truth as it starts starts to permeate throughout liberal Democrat society, they'll have to pick someone else. But if the media doesn't turn on him, he is going to run

again. And they're in a pickle. That's interesting, Sean. I never really thought of it that way. I look at him and I don't even see he could physically do it. But he loves it. But he can't. I mean, Sean, I don't think so. He fake jogs. Yes, he does. You think, I think there are moments where he does not love it. I think there are, I think Jill Biden absolutely loves this. She is absolutely Lady Macbeth.

This is what she wants. She pushed him into this. I think if they had said you could stay home and have ice cream, I think at this point he'd want to, but you disagree. He is staying home eating ice cream. I think at this point he'd want to, but you disagree, Sean. He is staying home eating ice cream. I know! He's in Delaware right now, so he's like,

I can be the president and stay home eating ice cream. What do you think? And I can smell young girls' hair. I love this. This is the best job ever. I want to keep it. I think Sean's scenario that he lays out is a very pragmatic one. I think, though, it won't be the media that turns on him.

They will to a certain extent, but not with the hostility they did with Donald Trump. I think, though, it won't be the media that turns on him. They will to a certain extent, but not with the hostility they did with Donald Trump. I think his party will turn on him, particularly the progressives in it who didn't think he got enough done

when he had the chance when he had the Senate and Congress. And I think that from within he'll be pushed out. But to Sean's point, it's like trying to take the keys from Grandpa

and telling him he can't drive anymore. He doesn't give up those keys very easily. But I think in the end, push comes to shove. That's a better analogy for me that I can understand that one.

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So do they take Kamala Harris? Do they go with another white guy in Gavin Newsom? I agree with Rachel. He is probably their best pick who obviously destroyed the state of California. But he looks the part. He sounds the part. His policies are even worse than Biden. Where do they go?

And that they could think that problem is a bigger problem for them than keeping Joe Biden in the basement and running for a second term. They can't navigate that. And if they lose the the the the black female vote, which they could if they don't take Kamala Harris. Yes. The party is over. Larry Elder did say that. Larry Elder said, Joe, that if they bypass Kamala, that black women who were one of the most important segments of the Democrat coalition, that they would take it personally and that they would not vote. And that would be a disaster. What do you think of that? They, though, when they say they bypass, like it would be a it would be an open primary. Right. And if she doesn't get the votes, then you can't really blame anybody except herself. Right.

Or you're saying the party would like the Democrats don't vote for kamala then they're a racist party then they're then they don't support he didn't right but right but they're that's true but but now she's the vice president now she's elevated she was a failing candidate in 2020 uh who got forced out early but now she comes from the air parent she's the air parent that's right joe can i ask you a question sure has it it been hard for you in the course of the last almost two years of the Joe Biden presidency to share the first name, Joe Contra, Joe Biden? Has there been a problem with that for you? You know what I've noticed when you guys have young kids like I do? There are no more Joes, right?

No one names their kid Joe. There's yet to be a Joe in any of my kids. I have a brother, Joe. No, no,e no no that's generational that's the past i'm talking now no one names their kids joe just like there are no more rachels right there's still some shawns uh but every name seems to start and end with a right particularly on the girl's side there's ava and there's ariana and there's alexandra and there are no my dad's name's Alan. There's no more Alans. It's funny how just some names get retired, but mostly people call me Conch.

Joseph will never go anywhere. Joseph's going to come. Listen, St. Joseph, there's still a billion Catholics in the world. So let me ask you this, Joe. You wrote this book. You're the only man in America writing a book on Joe Biden. You give it an awesome title.

You tell the story of this disastrous presidency, which is worse than any of us could have predicted. We knew it was going to go bad. It's worse than we ever thought. What did you learn about Joe Biden that you didn't know before you started writing this book? Is there something that you didn't

expect? I knew that every politician lies type of thing and he's had his gaffes and so many people say it's just you remember these because you guys are from wisconsin and john madden would always say after brett farve would throw some crippling interception where he throws across his body in the double coverage and madden would always justify that's just brett farve being brett farve you know you got to be a gambler and then gambling is part of life and brett farve takes chances and sometimes you win sometimes you lose so with joe biden they always say well it's just joe biden being joe biden but the extent of the lying under no duress i think is what surprised me the most in other

words you're running in a campaign you're going to say things that people want to hear okay every politician does it but the corn pop story in really diving into that, I give a whole chapter to it. Chapter 12. It is the most utterly ridiculous story I have ever heard. Do you know the background around this? Well, we find this all. OK, so Joe Biden, every every part of this is a lie. It's all from his book, by the way. So I'm not like, you know, going off of unnamed sources and all that. This is literally what Joe Biden wrote in his book. And he says, OK, at age 19, he decides

he wants to be a lifeguard at a pool that's predominantly in a black community. And he said he did that because he wanted to get to know the black community better, which there is no 19 year old on the planet who thinks that way when going for a summer job. But OK, that's what he claims now because he's pandering. So then he's on the job one day and this gang shows up. Yeah, in 1965. It's even before that, I think. I think it's like 1960, maybe 1961. And he's on a diving board.

I'm sorry. He's on the lifeguard chair. And this gang shows up. But they're not the Crips and they're not the Bloods. They're called the Romans, which is kind of a classy name for a gang. but this is Wilmington, and it's not Watts, so okay, we accept it. And the leader of the gang, his name is Corn Pop, which sounds like a serial, but again, it's Delaware, and the gangs, I guess, aren't as tough there. And then this gang shows up one day, and they're playing Sharks and Minnows and Marco Polo in the pool and everything, and Corn Pop goes up

on the high dive, and he's about to dive off when out of nowhere, this lifeguard morphs from David Hasselhoff into Clint Eastwood, like in a flash, and starts screaming at Corn Popper. Everybody stops and looks. And Biden's saying, you don't have the proper swimwear on. That's not a regulation bathing cap. Get off that diving board. Who do you think you are? Esther Williams?

Who's Esther Williams? She was like a big female swimmer at the time. So he has basically completely humiliated the leader of a gang for not wearing the proper bathing cap. And everybody sees this. So then afterwards, Biden's leaving work and he kind of peeks out into the parking lot. And they're waiting to shift him. They all have what he called long razors, right? So he goes back.

He gets the thing that separates the low end from the deep end. Walks out. Goes right up to Corn Pop and says, let me clear you up on a couple of things, bub. I'm not going to apologize for having you wear the proper swimwear, but I will apologize for calling you Esther Williams because that was uncalled for. Corn Pop, this is according to Biden, looks him up and down and says, okay, we're good and walks away. And if you believe that happened, you believe we're at zero inflation. You know what I know, Joe? Yes.

I know that Corn Pop was a bad dude. He was a bad dude? He existed, though. He died in 2016, so no one can verify this story, unfortunately. But yeah, he's a real person. It's so insane. I don't understand how Democrats

are just deeply embarrassed about Joe Biden, that this is their guy i don't i don't think the liberal media actually covers the like the corn pop story they don't cover when he comes out and says when i took office gas prices were above five dollars a gallon and it's like actually no there were 230 a gallon he's like i brought him i brought the gas prices he he's he is he's had a political career of lying which by the way i mean it's really hard to lie in politics you get called out i mean actually he is getting called out but it's rare to have the media so in the tank for you that they cover for you and don't report on it and the sad truth

is is that many americans watch you know good morning america or the today show that i mean that's where they're getting a lot of their news or the nightly news. They're not watching the good networks like we have on Fox. And so they just get this complete morphed sense of who Joe Biden is and what he's done. Or they get nothing. Or they get nothing. That's right. Buy so much.

Something's changed in the last year and a half in my bank account and in my household and with my lockdowns and my kids' education. And what's changed in the last year and a half in my bank account, in my household, and with my lockdowns, and my kids' education, and what's changed in the last year and a half? Oh, Joe Biden became president. I don't like his party. I'm going to vote for Republicans in November. I mean, I think it's as simple as that.

Yeah, but you know what the good news is? I remember 2016, The Hill did this analysis of every major newspaper and their endorsements, and 57 of the 59 newspapers that we looked at endorsed Hillary Clinton, and only two went to Donald Trump. And what that got Hillary Clinton was a concession speech and a set of steak knives. In other words, all these papers said, this is how you should vote, and here's why, and they were ignored. So the good news is that the media doesn't have as much influence that it does. But as far as getting nothing, when Joe Biden says,

when I came in office, gas prices were over $5, and now they're falling faster than at any time in our history. That's like me gaining 50 pounds. And then Mrs. Conscious says, hey, you know, I didn't really sign up for this. You look like you're in your second trimester. And I go, oh, you're right. So I lose like six pounds back. And I say, boy, I've never lost this much weight this fast in my life. No, I'm still 44 pounds overweight. It's the same thing with gas prices. He keeps saying they're coming way down. Coming way down from what?

An all-time high. It was $2.39 when he came into office, Mr. President. Now it's $3.75. That's infinitely higher, yet he keeps saying that it's falling or inflation's at 0%. But what drives me crazy is when we had two straight quarters of negative growth, the Biden administration kept insisting that's not a a recession when that has always been the traditional definition and then some media members like paul krugman will actually say you know he's got a point i know we've always called it that but maybe we're not in a recession they echo what they say sean it's technical it's a

technical recession but we're not really in a recession right i mean you're like what what do you or inflation is it's a global thing instead of like no you turned off the spigot of american you know gas and oil i mean it's just it's just lies after lies i'm glad that you dug deeper into this i think the chapter on corn pop should go down for pulitzer prize material personally. And I mean, I say that in jest, but I actually mean that because as Sean said, our journalists have not given it the amount of attention that and many other lies, the amount of attention it deserves. You did you did the dirty work of going into the Biden presidency and all the lies, laying it out for posterity sake.

One day this too shall pass and we will get past the joe biden presidency and at least somebody will have written down the truth joe and reminded us all of what we what not to do let's we could rename the the the the reprint should be what not to do well i'd never thought i like that not just journalists uh covering for biden but there's a whole chapter on the late night hosts and you know growing up it was carson when i was young a young letterman like mbc letterman like stupid petrick's letterman before he got political obviously leno i thought conor o'brien was very underrated and now you see what colbert and kimmel and seth myers in

particular and how it is unwatchable. When they used to say, hey, we got George Clooney tonight, you'd be like, all right, that might be interesting. And now it's like, join Steven as he sits down with Bernie Sanders. And you're like, Bernie Sanders, this is your big guest. How did this happen? But the turning point really for me was 2016, four nights after the election, I tune into Saturday Night Live. I'm like, how are they going to handle Trump winning? So Kate McKinnon comes out and she's dressed as Hillary Clinton. And then she starts singing Hallelujah and all the lights are down.

I'm like, there better be a punchline at the end of this because this is weird. Instead, McKinnon turns toward the camera and she says, I'm not giving up. And neither should you. Live from New York, it's Saturday night. And I go, what the F did I just watch? This is Saturday Night Live. Belushi, Murray, Eddie Murphy. This? How did this happen? So yeah, there's a whole chapter on late night escapism gone. Yeah. Trump derangement syndrome. It's been delicious watching Greg Gutfeld beat them. Yeah, Gutfeld, he found his niche audience, half the country, because no one else, everybody else is occupying for the same people saying the same things, totally political. And the thing about Gutfeld's show is people say, oh, well, then it's just right wing talking points.

No, actually, his show talks less about politics than the other ones, believe it or not. I think it's more an analysis, for lack of a better word on pop culture right and the insanity of the left more than it is about political talk and horse races and so on i think that's what makes it successful and the studio audience is a big help too i can't stress that enough and and he works hard at comedy he's trying to tell jokes and he'll and he'll you know he's got great writers and um he's there for the laughs right where these these other um main channel um night hosts, they're just about politics. And listen, this was always a time and a space where we got away from politics. And as Americans, we laughed at ourselves.

We laughed at our leaders. We laughed at all kinds of things together. And that's gone away. And now even late night comedy is divided. Listen, Joe, I want to thank you for writing the book, too. I'll echo Rachel's comments. And I want to thank you for writing the book, too. I'll echo Rachel's comments, and I want to thank you for joining us at our kitchen table. You are a great American, a great contributor

at Fox, and I would echo Rachel's comment, too, that it's always fun to have you on. And when I see your face and you're muted, I always turn the volume up to go, what is Joe Concha going to say today? How is Joe Concha going to inform me and educate me? Make me laugh.

Make me laugh, Joe Concha. Come on, and educate me make me laugh Joe Concha come on man go get it I love this it's I suppose you get it at Amazon or wherever you get your books come on man yeah that's great you can brag one last time so tell us how high you got on the New York Times oh well yeah

I meant to it's not correct you so much. I made the bestseller list of the Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Publishers Weekly, and Amazon. The one- Oh, yeah, New York Times did it for you. Well, here's the thing, all right? A little inside sauce here. HarperCollins is my publisher. They had two other books on the New York Times bestseller list when my book completed its first week. And they said to me, look, we have the numbers right in front of us. You doubled both of our other HarperCollins books, and they're on here and you're not. I mean, it's complete proof that this thing is rigged.

And in 1983, the writer, The Exorcist, of all people, sued the New York Times because he had a clause in his contract that said, if you make the New York Times bestseller list, you get an advance of X or you get like a bonus, right? And they kept him off, yet he was like number one or number two on all these other lists. And they've had to admit in court that it's not based on raw data as it should be, like a baseball score. Who scored more runs wins the game. It's based on editorial decisions. So in this case, my book, because of the title, so insulted them that they had to keep it off. Is that believable? So I'm going to have to go with a softer title next time. Or I'm going to put in my contract that I get like a $1 million bonus

if I'm on the New York Times list when they keep me off. Wow. Oh, I'll be calling Jackie Childs, my lawyer, in about 10 seconds. You came out with it in the middle of a hurricane to boot, which isn't easy to sell a book because you were off the air. And you still sold a lot of copies. And people are reading it. People are loving it. And I think people should buy it for for the corn pop chapter you should have actually

named the best corn pop yeah actually god we came up with so many great titles for him today that could be the next man the gang member you never knew yeah you got something there you can't get a whole book out of this probably and then you just talk about like other gang leaders or whatever yeah okay i like this i like this you get 10 both people thank you all the great all You can't get a whole book out of this, probably. And then you just talk about like other gang leaders or whatever. Yeah. Okay. I like this. I like this. You get 10%. Both of you.

Thank you. All the great stories of Joe Biden. Joe Contra, thanks for joining us at the kitchen table. We are so grateful that you would spend some time with us. It's so nice to not do a five minute segment. We actually talk during this. You're so much fun. We just couldn't let you go.

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