From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Kanye's "De-Banking" & Heidi Klum's "Creepy" Photoshoot

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down to discuss JPMorgan Chase severing ties with Kanye West. Sean explains how this move by the banking company is similar to the Canadian trucker protests, and why he believes "de-banking" is a threat to American freedoms.   Later, Rachel discusses a photoshoot done for the brand Intimissimi by Heidi Klum and her daughter Leni that has some labeling it as "creepy. They then share her thoughts on the Marilyn Monroe Netflix biopic "Blonde" and Planned Parenthood's reaction to the film's pro-life themes.   Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's a lot of titles. That's a lot of titles, yeah. All right. Well, I'm so glad to be here. I'm so glad everyone's here with us in our kitchen table. And we've got three really hot topics today. So I don't know if you've seen it. It creeped me out. I saw Heidi Klum and her 18-year-old daughter.

She has a lingerie line, the supermodel Heidi Klum does. And she's prancing around in her lingerie in what looks to be like an incestuous Instagram shoot. It's creepy. We're going to dissect it a little bit for you and talk about that. Also, I saw the movie Blonde on Netflix. As soon as I saw it, I came home and I said, I just saw the most pro-life movie I've ever seen. And turns out Planned Parenthood is fuming mad about it. So we're going to talk about that.

It's about Marilyn Monroe. But before we go there, we're going to talk about Kanye West. Because as you all know, after the famous viral Tucker Carlson interview, Kanye then took to Twitter. And this is what he wrote on Twitter. He wrote, I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going death con three on Jewish people. The funny thing is, I actually can't be anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jew. Also, you guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone who opposes your agenda. OK, I don't even know how to unpack that.

But the point is that he got deplatformed or I should say debanked by Chase, JPMorgan Chase. And that rose raised a lot of red flags for me because one, Sean, you have been predicting that this would happen for a long time. We saw it with the Canadian truckers. But why don't you maybe take us back a little bit to explain why this is so troubling for Americans in general? So first off, let's talk about free speech for a second. Then I'll talk to you about banking. Listen, I don't have to agree with what Kanye West said. And frankly, I disagree with what he said. But if you live in a free speech society, to have all of these guardrails and rules, and if we get to the point of offending someone, then you get canceled. That's not a free speech society, right? I think that's the problem here. You mean debanked? Are you talking

about being debanked? Well, I'm talking about speech. Right, because he was taking off Twitter and all this. Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah. They try to cancel him. So let's talk about banking and the power of banking. I served on the Financial Services Committee for almost 10 years. And there was a really important issue that came up about eight years ago under the Obama administration that we were like screaming our heads off with. But no one really cared about. We were like, this is the path forward where we should all be frightened about the powers of banks and regulators. It was something called Operation Chokepoint. about the powers of banks and regulators. It was something called Operation Chokepoint.

So I remember you coming home, Sean, when all of this was brewing in Congress, and you were frustrated because you said, this is the most important issue in the media doesn't care. And we're talking conservative media, all media, nobody cared about this. And you kept saying, this is going to be the beginning of a social credit score system. It's a big, it was a big deal, because this is what it was. So the FDIC, they insure banks and regulate banks around the country. What they did is they said, listen, there's a few businesses that we don't like. We don't like gun stores. We don't like smoke shops where you go buy cigarettes and cigars and we don't like payday lending. Now, I don't care if you like those or hate those businesses, but they're legal businesses

in America. And so what the FDIC said was, we're going to give extra scrutiny to banks who bank these businesses because there's something called a reputational risk. That's right. Your reputation in the bank could be at risk if you bank them and something goes wrong. Well, because of the pressure that the FDIC put on banks, banks across America stopped banking these businesses. And with payday lending, a lot of the businesses went out of business because they couldn't get banked. And so think about this for a second. They couldn't get credit. They couldn't get credit. You can't cash a check. You can't take credit cards. You can't deposit money. If you don't have a bank, you can't do any of the things that make a business run. And so the power of the FDIC under the Obama administration to say, we can actually take legal,

lawful businesses out of business by just pressuring banks. And so I thought about that. So they tested it there. Well, and it was very effective. And so you mentioned then, you know, you mentioned the, the, the, the Canadian truckers, Canada froze the bank accounts of many of the Canadian truckers, those who supported them and the truckers themselves. So not, this wasn't to be clear, this isn't just the GoFundMe page, you're saying individual people who were either truckers or gave money to the truckers saw their bank account frozen. You couldn't access your money, right? That's right. Historic, scary. So that happened.

And now we go to Kanye West. And you have the largest bank in America, JP Morgan. Jamie Dimon is the CEO. He's been there for a long time, famous guy. And I'm concerned about this because the question becomes, Kanye has a multi-billion dollar business. What is it? Easy, easy clothing wearer. I mean, he's a billionaire. I mean, he's got a multi-billion dollar business. I think it's six billion. So it's a huge account. And JP Morgan basically says, we don't like your kind here. We're going to kick you out. We're not going to bank you any longer.

Get out by sometime in November, I think November 21st. And I always ask the question, well, why would JP Morgan kick out a customer that's a billion dollar customer? And I think there's a few reasons why they would do that. One, look at all the little wokesters that have come from University of Chicago, Yale, Harvard, the elite institutions. They've been completely radicalized. You mean that work at JP Morgan? Well, they came out of those schools and a lot of them go into finance. And they end up at one of the biggest banks in America, one of the best paying banks in America, J.P.

Morgan. So you have a whole bunch of wokes. So you think there's employee pressure on Jamie Dimon to not bank? Of course. That's funny because I was assuming this came from the board or some relationship they have politically with, you know,

you know, the Obama, I mean, the Biden administration, or they're worried about being asked about it in some hearing in financial services. Well, I think who knows if regulators reached out to them and said, oh, this could be a reputational risk for you as well at J.P. Morgan. You want to take them out. You know, you don't want to bank them easy any longer. Or you could have had other businesses. And we've seen corporate America has become very woke. And JP Morgan banks some of the biggest deals in America. Well, if you have woke clients, they might call you up and go, listen, we might move our bank if you don't get rid of this guy. Yeah, we might go to a different place.

It could have been one of any or a combination of those threats but it made jp morgan move um kanye west um to say you can go and go somewhere else and here's what scares me about this um if you can't bank if you can't cash checks if you can't get credit cards if you can't deposit your salary into a bank you basically can't live um and again today is it first of, can I make a sidetrack here? Yeah, but can I tell you what scares me? I mean, I just read you what Kanye said. It sounds racist. I don't understand half of it.

I don't either. But a lot of liberals think conservatives are racist. A lot of liberals think if you voted for Donald Trump, you're racist. A lot of people think if you're pro- Trump, you're racist. A lot of people think if you're pro-life, you're a danger. Thus, we saw the FBI going after pro-lifers. So I'm concerned by who is defining what's racist, what's violent, what's... And also, by the way, Sean, many of your former colleagues in the House, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, have said anti-Semitic things. And yet they have a bank account, but now Kanye West doesn't.

So I guess I don't understand the rules of it, and I don't think anyone – I guess I can't imagine that – I mean, to me, this looks like the beginning of a social credit score system. I think you're right. This is the Chinese way. If you don't agree with the regime, you can't function in society. They'll find ways for you not to be able to function. So think about this for a second. When we look at the war on terror, one of the main tools we had to fight terrorism was finance. We went after the financial network that funded terrorists.

And if they did and they banked in America, we would shut down or freeze their accounts. That's right. If you have Joe Biden who says, listen, if you're protesting CRT and transgenderism at a school board, you're a terrorist. If you're a pro-lifer, you're a terrorist. If you're a if you're a Donald Trump supporter, you're you know, you're a fascist. All of a sudden you can see where they might go. Well, hey, this is this is a whole new lane, not just for Al Qaeda, not just for ISIS. This is a whole lane for America that we can use banking to shut people down. And again, you make sure you're obedient to make sure you fall in line. People will comply. That's it's scary because when you lose your ability to bank, you'll see

people start to comply very quickly, which is what's frightening to me. The power of this tool is real. And we're seeing it being used against Kanye West. Again, I don't have to agree with what he says, but I can say I believe he has a right to say what he wants. And if he says some crazy things, does that mean he can't get banked in America? I think the answer to that is no, it doesn't. But that's exactly what they're doing to go, you know what? You said the wrong thing, Kanye. And we agree it's the wrong thing. But now you're going to lose all of these privileges and benefits, which is the social credit score. That's the social credit score. You lose all these benefits of an upstanding citizen, right?

You can't get on social media. You can't bank. Who knows what comes next? Well, you can't sell your goods online in certain venues. Well, using the financial world to control you, to make sure you're obedient, to make sure you don't have wrong think. I can't have wrong think. Well, it's interesting because I think about PayPal, what PayPal just tried to do.

I think about almost 90,000 new IRS agents. I think about what JPMorgan Chase just did. And I think this is a real serious threat to American freedom, to free speech. And I don't care if you're on the left or the right. If you love America, you have to fight against this. And I'll tell you what, I don't know how your colleagues who I think are going to take the House and I think the Senate. I would agree. Frankly, I think this has to be job number one. I can't think of all the things

that this country is facing. I can't think of anything more important than this because nothing affects your ability to survive in this society than your ability to be. Well, it goes back to the old principle that free speech is not about just supporting speech that we like. Free speech, the principles are about supporting speech that we don't like.

And we can like a lot of things that Kanye has said, like white lives matter. All lives matter. I'm a Christian. I like that. But I can disagree with this part of what he said in this tweet. But if I'm a believer in free speech, that means I have to make sure that he doesn't get deplied from that. I support his ability to speak his mind, even though I may disagree with it. That is the principle of free speech, supporting speech you adamantly disagree with.

Do you remember, Sean, when we were a kid that they would always, you know, when they talked about free speech to us in school, they would say, listen, the KKK can have a parade, right? They can have a parade, but our cops will make the KKK can have a parade, right? They can have a parade, but our cops will make sure that they can have that parade. You don't have to agree with the KKK, but the KKK, as much as detestable as they are, they still have a right to, you know, I don't think that that would happen today. Let me ask you one last question before I move on to what may be juicier topics. Juicier topics. So you mentioned the young people who may possibly be part of the equation of who is pressuring Jamie Dimon and these banks to de-platform Kanye West.

You know, Jamie Dimon is probably, what, 70 years old, 60, 60 some years old. I mean, this generation of top level banking CEOs, these powerful titans are going to be retiring in the next, you know, 10, 15 years. And those employees that you say we're pressuring potentially Jamie Dimon are now going to be entering into those top positions. Do you see this as, one, the inevitable future for America? Or is there something truly that Congress can do? And what exactly can Congress do? I'm sorry, I gave you two parts. I think you have a generation of leaders that are still coming up from the Reagan generation, right? The Cold War generation, the America's great generation. They would be the next generation of leaders at banks. But after those who are 45 to 55, once they're out, I think-

Once our generation is gone. It's through, right. Then you start to see all these little wokesters that have been indoctrinated in schools come up and it's frightening. But even for Jamie Dimon, even though he's in charge, you have now senior vice presidents that are in their 30s that have real power and real influence in a bank that can help push and make these decisions. So again, I think this is going to be the new norm. I think it starts to happen very quickly. So we're giving Jamie Dimon some hard times here. And I think he runs the biggest bank, and he's a little bit liberal and a little bit woke. He's kind of an

old school Democrat. But there was a hearing that they had in financial services. They brought in all the banks and let's play that clip or let's play it. Ask all of you and go down the list because again, you all have agreed to doing this. Please answer with a simple yes or no. Does your bank have a policy against funding new oil and gas products? Mr. Diamond. Absolutely not. And that would be the road to hell for America. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine, sir. You know what? Everybody that got relief from student loans has a bank account with your bank should probably take out their account and close their account. The fact that you're not even there to help relieve many of the folks that are in debt, extreme debt because of student loan debt, and you're out there criticizing it. Ms. Frazier, how about you?

We will continue to invest in and support clients who are investing in fossil fuels and in helping them transition to cleaner energies. And Mr. Monahan? We are helping our clients make a transition, and we're we're lending to both oil and gas companies and to new energy companies and helping monitor their course towards the standards you're talking about so here you have rashida talib asking all these bankers about their energy policy and will they bank energy in virtue all of them say no they're not she's right but the only one who had the backbone to stand up and go no that's a disaster for America. And he's spot on was Jamie Dimon. So again,

as I'm giving him a hard time about easy, I got to give him some credit to go, hey, listen, these policies are disastrous for America, number one. And by the way, Joe Biden, he's actually come out and said Joe Biden has made huge mistakes in regard to energy. You don't have to be a CEO of J.P. Morgan to figure that out, Sean. I'm like, I could figure that out, and I have an econ degree from ASU. But what's interesting is he's the only one who will say it. All these guys are smart. It's true. But none of the other bankers will recognize it. Okay, what can Congress do, Sean? Listen, I think, so Congress has oversight over all of the regulators, right? The Financial Services Committee has oversight.

But what's also interesting is these banks aren't like the mom and pop down the street. Every single bank in America is chartered by the government, whether it's a state charter or a federal charter. You can't exist unless the government basically gives you permission to exist. So who knows what creative things Republicans might do if they were in power to go, listen, if you don't want to bank people based on their credit scores and their ability to repay you, but instead you want to use these woke criteria, huh? Your charter could be in jeopardy. I'm not scared that you're being banked based on politics. I know. Or not banked.

Nice bank you have there. Be too bad if you lose your charter. I mean, I say that, Sean. You talk a big game, but I don't believe that your colleagues have the balls to do it. So I would tell you that the first—listen, that's a big overreach. That is like going nuclear by doing things like that. But I think you have to. You have to put a stop to it.

I think they're going to send some shots across the bow, whether it's letters, whether it's hearings. When we do hearings. I'm sorry. I know she hates the hearings, but here's the deal. Nothing happens with these hearings. CEOs don't want to come and testify in front of Congress. And if you look at the amount of time that it eats up for a CEO to prepare to come to Congress,

it eats up days, if not weeks, of their time, but also of their team's time because they don't want to get embarrassed. So I know we're going to end this topic. But Sean, if you're willing to debank somebody who has multiple billions of dollars, that means you're pretty ideologically

committed to this idea. That I don't think a hearing was shot across the bow from the GOP who's now heading up Congress to do it. I think they have to threaten, just like when you talked about with hearings on agencies, you always say, you have to threaten with the power of the purse.

I'm going to defund your agency if you don't turn over the documents that we need for transparency. And likewise in this case, if you are going to bank people based on politics, I'm not giving you your charter. Your bank will not be able to. So first off, let's be clear. Republicans will maybe have the House, maybe have the Senate, but they won't have the White

House. Joe Biden, Joe Biden has that for two more years. So they can't do any of this unless they had complete control or they got Democrats to buy in to go in. Hey, listen, we shouldn't have. The charter has to be the charter has to be. If you revoke a charter of a bank, Biden has to sign off. Well, I think what you're going to see is the Congress has to put pressure on the on the on the regulators and those who charter the banks, whether that's the OCC or the FDIC or those banks that were chartered in certain states. Now, you might have a state bank that has a conservative legislature that says, listen,

we're not going to charter you any longer. Now, that bank will probably go to the OCC or the FDIC and try to get a charter there. But again, they don't want this to become political banks, don't. They want to actually continue to operate with impunity. They want to continue to, you know, be woke, debank people they don't like or speech that they disagree with and want no one to pay attention. When we start to pay attention, that's when they're concerned. So just, I guess, with this topic, be concerned. Again, be a warrior for free speech and for everybody being able to access banking if you have the credit and accessing public platforms to express your ideas.

I think that's a really important takeaway from what's happened at Kanye. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Two freshly cracked eggs any way you like them. Three strips of naturally smoked bacon and a side of toast. Only $6 at A&W's in Ontario. Experience A&W's classic breakfast so now. Okay, now we're going to move to the juicy part. Rachel says sex sells.

Yeah, sex sells. This is really creepy sex, though. So Heidi Klum, as you know, is a supermodel. She has a lingerie line called, I think it's Intimissimo. Actually, beautiful lingerie, I must say. Beautiful lingerie. And she's been selling it for a while, but now she just launched, I don't know, a new line. And she decided to use her 18-year-old daughter in promoting it.

Her 18-year-old daughter is as gorgeous as Heidi Klum. But here's what's creepy. The 18-year-old isn't modeling the lingerie herself. The 18-year-old is modeling it in an Instagram shoot with her mom. And they are touching each other. And at one point, they kiss on the lips. Like, listen, I'm Hispanic. We kiss our kids a lot. We're called basic wellness. We kiss our kids a lot. We kiss them on the lips. We kiss them, kiss them, kiss them, but we're not in lingerie and kissing our kids. It looks very incestuous. It looks very sexual. I think it's my instant reaction was, this is creepy. Now the Daily Mail has a new writer who I think is fantastic. Her name is Maureen Callahan. I mentioned it to you. And then the Daily Mail came out with this article,

and I thought it was great. And she basically talks about, you know, that this was crossing the line, that this was creepy. She agrees. And a lot of people, I think, if you look at the comment section, felt the same way. I don't know. I know you saw the thing too. What are your feelings about it? First off, we're talking about it. The Daily Mail wrote an article about it. Heidi actually got what she wanted out of this shoot with her daughter. This is advertisement. This is getting your brand out and your name out. She's like, I'm winning. I have America talking about this. But America's losing. Families are losing. That's gross.

So I agree with that. So I take maybe a different perspective to say, listen, if you're a mom. Because she looks good in a shirt. No, I can't. Listen, maybe. I don't know. I can't confirm or deny that.

But my point is, moms and dads don't encourage their kids to dress up and do shoots like this. Now, kids do things that parents don't approve of all the time. It's their prerogative. I'm not opposed to her being in the lingerie ad as an 18-year-old. I'm opposed to her doing it with her mom, which I think is gross. But I think what you have here is the mom saying, you should do a lingerie ad, and you should do it for me and my line. And I'm going to make a lot of money off this by sexualizing my own child. And I think, again, when she's 18 years old, I don't know that that's the kind of message parents should be sending their kids.

You might be going, hey, listen, go to a great school, get a great education and use your mind. Don't use your body in lingerie. Let me just make sure. I have no problem with people who want to model. I have no problem with people modeling in lingerie if that's what they want to do when they're over 18. Is that what I want my own daughter to do? No. I'm so glad that she's a writer.

That said, my problem with it is that they are doing it together. It is in some weird way normalizing incest. I you uh i read an article once it was saying that like there's like a uh in that whole crazy disgusting porn world that actually exploits women that there is a market for mother-daughter porn crap out there

and i just think this is on the line i think I think it's titillating in a very negative way for culture. And I think Heidi Klum should be ashamed of herself. And that's just what I think. And I'm not a prude. I am not a prude. I'm not like that. I'm just saying this crossed the line for me. I found it creepy. Well, I don't know that if I saw that picture, I wouldn't know that this is a mother and a daughter. I just think this is an older lady and a younger lady in a lingerie shoot. That's my take. An older lady. That's all I'm saying. Let me just tell you this. If I can land on a positive note, Heidi Klum looks amazing. And I'll admit that. I just wish she would look amazing on her own and her daughter could look amazing on her own and they wouldn't do this together because I think it's bad. Now we move to another topic,

which got me really excited. So, you know, I love old movies. You do. I'm a classic film person. I love Marilyn Monroe. I love her movies. And so when the Netflix movie Blonde starring Ana de Admas, a Cuban actress, came out. I knew I wanted to see it. Now, let me just start with, so the premise is the story of Marilyn Monroe. Many of us have seen lots of these documentaries about her, movies depicting her life, which is very tragic, ended tragically with pills and overdose, like so many big celebrities do. But I want to first say something about Anna de Admas.

She is amazing. This is her second language. So she went to a voice coach. So she has an accent. She's a Cuban woman. And she went to a voice coach. To me, she sounds like Marilyn Monroe. She sounds American.

There's a couple of words I heard that maybe I was like, but I think because I knew she was speaking in another language. Okay, so first of all, she looks like her. The acting is superb. The voice, I don't know how she did it. It's incredible. But what's fascinating is that they look at Marilyn Monroe's life and so many of the tragedies and so much of her psychological trauma through two things. One, that she was a single, she was raised by a single mom who always felt, had her own psychosis and was traumatized by the fact that she was abandoned by Marilyn's

father. So that kind of colored her life, and they go into that. And the next thing is that it is understood or believed that Marilyn, like many other Hollywood actresses during that golden period of Hollywood, were forced into having abortions because the studio bosses did not want them to have babies because that would ruin, in mind their sex appeal and so apparently she had at least one possibly two abortions per this film and um and subsequent miscarriages which many people do have following abortions and that this drives it now this director sean gets into it you see images of the baby in utero. The baby literally says at one point, you won't hurt me this time, will you?

So the fetus is talking. It is the humanization of a baby in the womb. I have never seen anything like this come out of, out of Hollywood and Planned Parenthood is steaming mad, as you can imagine. Yeah, they're losing their mind. So, but my question is, how does something in this environment get approved from Hollywood? Because like, how do they get through the gatekeepers? Right. Cause there's groupthink. I mean, you can only have one political view in Hollywood with a certain set of issues that they all agree on. And if you're not in that lane,

you don't get to work in Hollywood. But here, I mean, this incredibly pro-life movie is made. And maybe it wasn't even about, I'm trying to make a political statement on life versus abortion. Maybe it was about the research that we've done in the book that this movie was based on actually talks about the impact that the abortions had on Marilyn Monroe's life. And if we want to do an accurate movie about her life, we actually have to talk about that really painful part of her life, which was the abortions. But it's fascinating to bring to life the baby in the womb and let the baby in the womb talk to the mom.

Yeah, it is amazing. The scenes of the abortion, her being forced down at one point. Here's what's interesting. At one point, and I don't want to give too much away because I really think people should watch the movie. I thought it was if you love old Hollywood, Congresswoman Cori Bush, she writes about in her book that she went to have – she's had two abortions. She went to have an abortion when she was a teenager. And when she was laying down there, she said, I changed my mind. She didn't want to do it. And they didn't listen to her. And that happens. And I interviewed Abby Johnson on Fox and Friends, who was a former

Planned Parenthood director, manager of a clinic. And she says, absolutely, that these kind of things happen in abortion clinics. And that many of the girls who come in are exploited in this way, are not listened to. But more importantly- Can I ask you about that? Yeah. Sure. So Cori Bush is a member of the squad. I mean, she is a radical leftist, pro-abortion, you know, everything that you think of the furthest like AOC left of the party, the Marxist wing of the party, that's Cori Bush. And so if she actually wrote about being forced into an abortion, one, I commend her for telling the truth about what happened to young women.

Though she might be on the wrong side of this issue, good for her for actually saying what happened to her. And I imagine there's a lot of pain that comes in life after you made the split-second decision before the abortion to go, I want to keep my baby, and they take your baby from you anyway. oh, I want to keep my baby, and they take your baby from you anyway. Yeah, well, you know what's interesting to me about this whole movie, Sean, is that just the fact that it deals with post-traumatic syndrome that happens from abortion, the abortion lobby never wants to talk about that. The medical community doesn't actually acknowledge that, even though they have done many studies on post-aborted women and they have much higher rates of alcoholism, depression, drug addiction, obviously, you know, terminating your own child has to have psychological impact. Because to admit it is to admit that what you killed was a human being. And so what I loved about this film was that it was fearless in taking it on, that it spoke to the humanity of a fetus, and it spoke to the humanity of Marilyn Monroe. You see her abused not just through this abortion, but through so many men who, you know, sexualized her, saw her only as a plaything.

And it is just a fascinating look at, you know, we talk so much about the Me Too movement and Harvey Weinstein. I mean, that was that, you know, there's a long, long history of that. I want to, if I could pull it up, the director of Blonde. So Planned Parenthood, as you said, Sean, is losing their mind over it. They said, I want to pull up what Pled by the anti-abortion, that this movie touts the messages of anti-abortion zealots as film. Listen to this. As film and TV shapes many people's understanding of sexual and reproductive health, this is Planned Parenthood saying this, it's critical these depictions accurately portray women's real decisions and experiences.

While abortion is safe, essential health care, anti-abortion zealots have long contributed to abortion stigma by using medically inaccurate descriptions of fetuses and pregnancies. And she continued to say that Andrew Dominick's new film, Blonde, bolsters their message with the CGI talking fetus depicted to look like a fully formed baby. This is from Planned Parenthood? This is from Planned Parenthood. We still have much work to do to ensure that everyone who has an abortion can see themselves on screen. It's a shame that the creators of Blonde chose to contribute to anti-abortion decisions instead. So if there's anything that would tell you to go see this movie, it's this statement from Planned Parenthood about how bad it is, right?

If Planned Parenthood says it's bad, it's probably pretty good. Well, I want to give everyone a warning. It is a racy film. There's a lot of sex, and it's got some pretty harsh scenes and not just the abortion scene, which was which was traumatic. But there's there's it's a racy film. Her life was racy. So we're just trying to come back and go see. I'm not approved. See from this last segment. I love this. I love this movie. Can I speak to you with the director? The director was asked about it and he says that he doesn't see the film as anti-abortion.

He was interviewed by the rap about it. That's a website. And he said, the movie, the movie is what the movie is saying is she's not seeing reality. She's seeing her own fears and desires projected onto the world around her. You see it constantly. And she said,

he says, I think this sort of desire to look at blonde through Roe versus Wade lens is everybody else doing the same thing. They've got a certain agenda where they feel like the freedoms of women are being compromised. And they look at blonde and they see a demon. But that's not really what it's about. So he's saying, I'm telling the story of this woman. I'm not weighing in on the Roe versus Wade. In fact, the movie was made before that decision was made. But he's getting called in and people are calling to cancel him. Well, and I think it's interesting. Again,

he's saying, I want to be a filmmaker who does an accurate depiction of Marilyn Monroe's life. And this was part of the life. And I'm going to tell that story. But again, you can't tell that story and not go to the risk of being canceled, shut out. And Sean, he may not make another movie again in Hollywood because he had what could be perceived as a pro-life set of scenes in his Marilyn Monroe movie. Where can you get that? Where can people watch this? They can watch it on Netflix. It's on Netflix right now. So you have to have Netflix.

You have to pay Netflix. You have to pay the salary of the Obamas and Meghan Markle and all the people you hate. But you can watch Blonde. So there's that. But I think it's an interesting movie. I think it's an interesting cultural moment that you have Planned Parenthood, you know, reacting the way they do, they must find it dangerous if they don't want you to watch it. And what's interesting is if the left in Hollywood keeps making these movies that we don't want to

see, right? Think of Top Gun. Top Gun was a great American movie and they made a lot of money off that movie. It'll be interesting to see what kind of viewership Blonde gets on Netflix. And maybe there's a capitalist theme that comes into Hollywood to go, you know what? Enough of my agenda. Let's make movies that, you know, people want to see that are actually wholesome.

And then you're saying, this is not wholesome all the way. Make great movies that people want to see. Hopefully they go to that place. Like feeling like they have to create art through the approved political lens. I mean, just make art, right? And so

kudos to the director. Kudos. Kudos to Anna de Armas, who I think did a phenomenal job of this, of portraying Marilyn Monroe. Highly recommend it, but I will give you a warning. It's definitely heavy. Okay. Listen, I I will give you a warning. It's definitely heavy. Okay.

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