From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Learning Airline Etiquette & The Osage Nation's Continued Fight

Episode Date: November 3, 2023

On this episode, Sean and Rachel are joined by their daughter and writer at The Federalist Evita Duffy-Alfonso, as they discuss King Charles' recent trip to Africa aboard his private jet while touting green energy, and weigh in on a fight between airline passengers over a reclined seat.  Later, Evita talks about her upcoming article, where she interviewed the Chairman of the Osage Minerals Council about their current fight against the federal government to thwart a wind farm being built on Osage lands.  Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Hey, Rachel. Hey, Sean. It's great to be back at the kitchen table. We're already arguing about some of our topics so you have to stick with us here we have abita our daughter with us she wrote

a great article we're going to talk about this article because if you've been following hollywood you wouldn't you'll know that killers of the flower room this big martin scorsese movie came out um it's starring leonardo dicaprio and a tribe in ok that, you know, had, you know, the story, Sean, oil and all kinds of. This is a story about, you know, white men, you know, killing Native Americans. A true story. But if he did tell us a different part of the story, which is the government control, the government control that prohibits them from getting their oil and making money. We're going to get to that. That's our third topic. Federal government still oppressing the Native Americans.

Good story. You must stick around for that one. That is very good. We're going to talk about Matt Walsh. I had a tweet on a video about people in coach leaning their seats back. A lot of opinions online, but also between us. We don't agree on this one,

so we're going to talk about that. But first, we're going to talk about so we're going to talk about that. But first, we're going to talk about... We're going to talk about King Charles. Charles. Because, Evita, you know that the royal family has a Twitter site, a Twitter handle. It's called the Royal Family. And recently, the king, Charles, I keep wanting to say Prince Charles. I remember he was the prince for so long, but he is the king. He went to Kenya and the royal family Twitter site posted a picture of him and Queen or Queen Consort Camilla relaxing on their private jet, which is, of course, ironic because King Charles has been he flies around everywhere giving speeches about climate change and is really

at the epicenter of the entire Great Reset, which is limiting flights. Evita, before I bring you in, I just want to bring this up too. So he's not just in trouble for this Kenya trip. He went to Paris not long ago. You can get to Paris. It's only about 214 miles from London to Paris. And he could have taken the train and set an example of how to do it in this green, friendly way. Instead, he took a private jet, which, of course, is is very, you know, not very far. And again, also took a flight, a private flight. And as you know, and Evita will break down a little further, in France, they are the ones who are limiting short-haul flights. So you can't even take a short-haul flight. They're planning to eliminate any short-haul flights, you know, from Paris to Bordeaux.

You're going to have to take the train because that's the green friendly way to do this. Evita, what's your take on this? How much backlash also is King Chai? I mean, we find it outrageous, but is the rest of the world disgusted by this hypocrisy? Well, there were a few people calling him out online. We're all appalled that he would actually post a picture of him on his private plane and essentially bragging about his private plane um but i think that part of why we're not seeing enough backlash i mean there should be massive backlash from this is because people aren't even really aware especially in america of of the war on travel air travel specifically so like you said in france they have banned short haul domestic flights so if you're so for example if i wanted if to compare it to the u.s

if i wanted to take a a flight from from madison or sorry better better yet from minneapolis to chicago not allowed those are too close together. So wait, wait, wait. Has this already happened or are there plans in France for this to happen? It already happened. In France, this has already happened. Short haul flights, domestic flights, gone. The UN is actually considering doing this with the entire European Union. I'm sorry, the European Union is considering doing it for the entire, for all of Europe, right?

They want to adopt this this French model. I think that it is really limiting on on regular people's air travel. Meanwhile, people like King Charles, who, like you pointed out, is the poster boy for the Great Reset, can go and fly wherever they want on their private jets. they want on their private jets. The same goes for environmentalists like, you know, at the C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group, which is a globalist climate organization, including American cities and then also ones abroad, saying that they want to limit meat and dairy consumption by 2030. They want no meat and dairy consumption by 2030. Klaus Schwab, Michael Bloomberg, who runs C40 Cities, those are people that are going to fly private jets. They're going to eat steak. They're going to do whatever they want by 2030. But it's the rest of us regular people, the peasants, right, as King Charles

probably views all of us, are the ones that are going to end up getting hurt. You know, I find rich about the story is the fact that these rich elites who fly on private planes and eat steak, whether it's John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, Bloomberg, King Charles, that they've been able to sell the world or their home populations that we have a climate crisis and you all need to stop driving cars with a combustion engine. You have to drive an EV. You should probably ride your bike or walk as opposed to taking a car. Or public transportation. You shouldn't actually fly in an airplane. And they have these droves of, especially young people, but people of all ages, buying into the climate craziness. All the while, the people that are pushing the agenda, but also funding the fake science around climate, they fly their own private jets. because of climate change. You really believe that. You would say, well, my goodness,

I have to go give a speech, but of course I'm going to fly commercial or of course I'm going to take the train from... Or how about zoom it in? Zoom it in. But again, it's really remarkable that the masses have bought this bullshit from these guys who don't play by the same rules. And what it shows is,

truly there'll be two standards. You will be stuck in the neighborhood or the town in which you were born as these guys get to fly around the world and do whatever they want. And by the way, this is the communist system. This is the socialist system. You have a few at the top that have, and almost everyone else who has nothing. And they're fighting for that. Yeah. So can I just add some more context to that? Because, Dad, you're right.

You will be stuck in one place, which is ideal, prime for socialism, right? And for authoritarianism, really, because you can't leave anywhere. You can't move anywhere, right? You don't have basic freedoms and you're easily surveilled and then therefore you're easily controlled. This is not a conspiracy from from dad and I. Right. This is actually happening. They don't just want to mandate electric vehicles. That's that's pretty obvious. The C40 cities climate leadership group, which we talked about before, but I'll just explain it again. Yeah, do explain it. It's almost 100 cities across the globe, 14 of them are American, who have these goals for 2030 on how they're going to protect the environment, allegedly protect the environment. One of their goals is banning meat and dairy by 2030.

is banning meat and dairy by 2030. Another one is banning privately owned vehicles, not electric, not gas powered vehicles, privately owned vehicles. Why would they do that, right? Why would they do that if it was actually about the environment and electric vehicles are great for the environment. This is about restricting freedom movement. The UN wants to mandate that airline companies switch to sustainable aviation fuels. Sustainable aviation fuels are wildly expensive and they're not scalable. So if we switch to sustainable aviation fuels, the airline companies will close, which means commercial flights will not be a thing anymore. So you can't drive anywhere and you can't fly anywhere.

That means that you're mobile and you're stuck in one place. You're easily surveilled and therefore you're easily and you're stuck in one place. You're easily surveilled and therefore you're easily controlled. And you know, it's been beautiful. I remember flying when I was, you know, young, you know, so that must've been mid, mid seventies and, you know, not that many people could fly. It was expensive. And when you did fly, we got all dressed up as little kids. I love that. Well, the way free markets have developed and there was some deregulation in the airlines, but air travel has become relatively cheap. I mean, you can fly to Europe for $500, $600, depending on the time of year that you go. I think it's like $1,300 to get

to Europe. That's more like, no? Depending on when you go. Okay, you can. Okay. But yeah, you're right. It has democratized. It has come to the masses. And it's beautiful. You can travel. You can go see friends or family across the country or across the globe. And it's beautiful freedom for humanity.

And they don't like that freedom. They want to take it away under the auspices of climate change, which is... So we got to keep calling this out. Yeah, we got to keep calling these hypocrites out. I will not take another lecture from King Charles or Bill Gates or George Soros or John Kerry. And we really got to get to the to the core of what this is really about. And again, I remember interviewing Mark Morano from Climate Depot, a big skeptic and sort of whistleblower of the faux fraud, you know, big green climate change industry. And it is an industry and there's a lot of grift involved. And I said, you know, we come to you all the time. There's all these stories of hypocrisy and waste and grift and control. If you had to just synthesize it down, what's it really about? And he said, population control. He thinks it's population control at its heart. And then this globalist control that you talk about, Evita, so often. And that's

why they're censoring you. You've been telling these stories about their intentions. And, you know, big tech keeps censoring you, even though there's nothing false about what you're reporting. You're reporting their own words. Yeah, I've had two. I've had a video on Instagram and a video on TikTok about the eco-fascism get censored. And also, just to add, the UN, which is a major push for this eco-fascism, right, have partnerships with all of the big tech companies to censor, suppress content that is critical of them and their environmentalist, ultimately authoritarian goals. So that's why you're not allowed to talk about it on social media. The last point I'll make on this is there's three prongs of the control. They control your food, control your energy, and then control your currency. And they're well on their way on energy.

They're on their way on food. And they're working behind the scenes on currency. But if they control those three things, they control you. And listen, there's not a secret. As Avita just mentioned, they're very open about what they're doing and what kind of a certain extent they want us to live in. And it's incumbent upon us to fight back and push back on that. We'll have more of this conversation after this. I'm Ben Domenech, Fox News contributor,

editor at large of The Spectator and editor of the Transom.com daily newsletter. I'm inviting you to join in-depth conversations every week on the Ben Domenech podcast. Listen and follow now at Fox News podcast dot com. Now, air travel is also getting more testy? Testy is the right word. I want you to listen to this. This is gone viral. This is from, someone posted this. Somebody took a video of a woman who was in, you know, she's getting out of, at the end of a flight.

She turns around and starts yelling at the lady behind her who has been kicking her seat the whole time because she had pushed her chair back. And she's mad because she says, this is my right. Listen to this. The whole trip she pushed my seat. No, you seen it. No, she didn't. She put, no. I'm allowed to put my seat back. I'm allowed to put my seat back. I'm allowed to put my seat back. On this thing has gone viral. Everybody has an opinion on this, including Matt Walsh, who tweeted out, putting your seat back in coach is sociopath behavior. You've made it so the person behind you can't use their tray table and can't move their legs.

Yes, you're, quote, allowed to do it, but you're an asshole if you do. yes, you're, quote, allowed to do it, but you're an asshole if you do. I'm kind of with the lady. It's her right to do it. She paid for the seat. The seat goes back. But boy, even you got mad at me when I said that I agreed the lady had the right to do that. So I'll just give you guys my philosophy. I've evolved on this issue. You're not a caveman. You're evolving. evolved on this issue. So when I was- You're not a caveman, you're evolving. So when I was 17, 18, maybe even up to 20, when I would fly, I had this position. I was like, that is my space. I bought that space and I'm going to lean my seat back and I'm going to own it, right? And I was very proud of that. And I would very confidently tell you that I put my

seat back. But after I've aged a little bit and had to travel a little more, I'm like, that is the dumbest, rudest thing to do. So probably my mid-twenties, I'd never put my seat back. I have enough respect for the person. Starting in your mid-twenties, you started to not put your seat back. I did not put my seat back. And so I think it's true to people behind me, right? And I think when someone is in front of me and they lean their seat back into my space, and Walsh is right, they can barely open your tray table. And if you had a computer,

you can't see the computer screen because the screen will lean down towards your body, especially if maybe if you're smaller like you, it would work, but I'm six foot. I mean, you can't see your computer screen. And so I've taken, I don't, I don't kick the seat in front of me. Okay. I'm just gonna be really honest. I don't kick it. But if you want to lean your seat back into my space with my knees, I will put one knee, I'll lean in with one knee and I will dig it right into the back of the seat. No, you you're in church. This is why we got in church.

I think that's such a jerky move too. My goodness. Super passive aggressive. Awful. No, it's aggressive. If you want my knee in your back in my space, that's fine. Or you could lift your damn seat up and be a polite human being so we could all travel in peace together. Evita, before you get up, I'm going to tell you, this is not an issue for me because I don't think that the comfort level between upright and this like two inches back makes any difference in my comfort level. So I just don't push my seat back. I just don't do it.

There's not enough. Here in a first class seat that lays, you know, way back. Okay, I get that. This only goes like two inches. So to me, it's not worth it. Also, I'm very short. So I just want the window seat so I can curl up and just lean up against the window and I don't bother anybody. If somebody leans their thing back, it doesn't bother me at all. Maybe for the reason that you said, it does not bug me at all. You know, defending her right to do that because she bought that airline ticket and the seat is designed to go back. I think it's her right. And the other woman should not have been poking, you know, kicking her seat the whole trip back. I get that. Okay, go ahead. I was going to say, I have a caveat.

If you do have a long trip or like you fly it. Like over two hours? No, but like you're going to fly it like at night. Or you did a red-eye trip. You're flying on a red-eye and leaving at midnight and you're going to fly like at night. Or you did a red-eye trip. You're flying at a red-eye. You're leaving at midnight. You're going at like six in the morning. And everyone's going to go to sleep. Right?

Everybody lays. Everyone lays their seats back. And you're sleeping. I'm okay with that. Right? You shouldn't have to sit straight up. You can lean. Everyone's leaning their seat backs.

Everyone's sleeping. So many little rules. So if you're traveling longer distance, you can. If you're over 25 and you're mature, you can. I'll give you advice. I'll give you the recommendation of when it's appropriate or not appropriate. What the circumstances are, you can tweet me, DM me, whatever. I'll let you know. Okay, Vida, what's your take? I am appalled that dad would put his knees on the seat what me

too I thank you honey I raised you right uh so I okay I will admit I'm a smaller person I never does it bother me when someone puts their seat back it's like okay me either when I sleep on a plane I don't even need the seat back I curl up into a ball and I put on my knee and that's how I'm fine with that that even if I'm in a middle seat I'm able to just curl up into a ball and I put on my knee. And that's how I sit. I'm fine with that. Even if I'm in a middle seat, I'm able to just curl up into a little ball. But I realize that bigger people can't do that. So at The Federalist, we were having this debate in our group chat.

And there are a few tall individuals who are over 6'5", who work with. Oh, that's hard. You know what? I don't have any knee space. So if somebody puts the seat back, that actually means that my knees are constantly going to be touching the edge. I can't use my, my, um, my tray. So, okay. I get it. But at the same time, I think we're, we're directing our anger in the wrong direction, right? Because the reason that these seats are so uncomfortable for everyone is the airlines who have created the worst situation for people who it's not.

Oh, go ahead, dad. No, go ahead. Finish that point. For sure. I think I think the airlines are are the ultimate bad guys here. They're pitting us against one another. And I also think if created a situation where there is no politeness when you're flying. They make it, I mean, TSA really makes you take your shoes off. They treat you like you're a cripple when you get through. Then you get on the plane, they're busing you in like you're on public transit, even though you might have paid over $300 for a ticket. And they treat you like crap. So to think that this is going to be a place where polite society is able to thrive, I think is silly. The airlines and TSA have created an environment that is ripe for disaster and anger and attitude. Okay, so I like that answer. I wish we could bring civility back but here's the deal. The airlines have put as many seats on the plane as possible.

And when they do that, they're trying to make as much money as possible, but they also want to be competitive, which means you could buy that ticket for $300, but that's a round trip ticket. And you flew to Miami for 300 bucks, 150 down and 150 back. That's a really cheap form of travel. And you do that because they lock us all in there like cattle, right? If you want to spend more money and fly first class, you can have that experience. If you want to fly private, which I can't afford and you can't either, that's fine too. But if you want a cheap ticket, there's some indignity about flying back in coach, but I'm willing to have that indignity with a cheap ticket.

I just don't want further indignation. That's the wrong word. No, further indignity. Thank you, indignity. When the person is putting their seat back on me, don't do it. I think you brought up a good point, Evita. And that is, you know, Sean and I are old enough to have seen the devolution of civility and just manners and dress code when you travel. It has, you know, it used to be that you had to go to Disney World or the mall to see people and like people watch like the worst, like inappropriate dress or Walmart and totally unflat or yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Or, or unflattering, you know, and, and now the airline used to be that you would dress up and, and this is why like in schools, they have uniforms,

you know, kids actually perform better in school, take school more seriously when they're in a uniform and they're, and they're tidy and neat. And the same thing here, if when people would dress up to go to the airport and to travel, it was a special thing and they had a little dignity about it. And that dignity sort of transferred from the way they dressed and carried themselves into the way they treated other people. They didn't just throw peanuts at you. They, you know, treated you like you were having a, you know, an experience getting from Chicago to Miami or whatever it was. And now it's just gotten so gross. And then again, we see this stratus,

the stratus, like, you know, there's first class and those people get to travel with dignity and or even the privates, right? Like, like King Charles, and then the rest of us are treated like cattle. And I just think it's really, it's really bad criminals, too, because it feels like I'm getting processed. Yeah, every time I go to the airport. Yeah. And by the way, those people who fly private, they don't have TSA. They don't have any of the same stuff. And during COVID, they were flying maskless and were caught flying maskless while they were lecturing why all the rest of us had to wear masks on our cattle, you know, drive airplane ride to wherever we were going. There was nothing worse than the only thing. there was nothing worse than the only thing there's nothing worse. It was hell to travel during COVID with a mask and all the weird rules that made no sense. Anyway, I'm with the lady

just because, but I have to say, I wish she hadn't melted down. And somebody else on one of the comments said that they thought she was, you know, it was that time of the month for her. One of the comments said that they thought she was, you know, it was that time of the month for her. Four-year-olds kick seats. I know. I have little siblings. I have to stop them. They just naturally do it.

That's what children do. Adults don't kick seats. That's just so. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I didn't kick any seat. You were kneeling. It's the same thing.

It's childish. I'm leaning forward. I'm putting my knee. It's childish. You deal with it. Don't be rude. People, don't be rude. Okay, fine. Don't put your seat back.

We don't put our seat backs. We don't. Take a shower and put on some clean clothes and go to the airport and fly so you don't smell with the people around you. And then keep your seat up. And it's going to be a pleasant experience. I did have a flight once next to somebody who smelled and it was like i felt like i was going to throw up it was oh i was it was terrible okay we're going to move to this other topic um evita because

you have an article coming out on the federalist um and it's sort of the the beginning point is this movie which you saw which i want to see i'm so sorry about that i just want to turn our phones off for you i'm so sorry honey yeah that I just want to turn our phones off. I'm so sorry, honey. That's actually rude that I didn't turn my phone off. So Killers of the Flower Moon. This is a movie, a Scorsese movie. Apparently it's gorgeous, beautifully shot. Leonardo DiCaprio is amazing in it. I've been told I have not seen it. You have, right? I've seen it. I will say if anybody's thinking about seeing it, I loved it. My husband didn't.

So take that information, you know, and do. What does that tell you about the movie? How should people interpret that? It's a slow burn, I think. It's a very long movie. I love movies like that. It's a half hour long, very slow. The cinematics are great.

I thought the acting was great. But if you're an action packed, like Die Hard. Yeah. You might not love. I mean, it's a it's a it's a murder. It's a murder drama. So there is definitely action. But it's it's not it's not, you know, a James Bond film. So my my my cousin and I, who was also a female, loved it. My husband, a male, did not. cousin and I, who was also a female, loved it. My husband, a male, did not. Yeah. And your cousin, Native American. Yes. She liked it, too. OK, so. Tell us briefly the premise of the movie and then this new angle on it that you're writing that you're writing about. So this story is and I don't so I'm not going to I'm not going to give any spoilers about the movie. I'm going to just tell you the history that it's based on. True story. for their people to have a home. And when they bought it, they thought this was not, this was not, you know, really great land for farming. It wasn't a particularly

sought after piece of property. It turns out that actually it's oil rich. So after they had bought it, they struck black gold. And bought it from the federal government or bought it from private? So they had bought it privately.

They already had the land. And they then struck black gold and they had bought it privately. They already had the land. And they then struck black gold. And they had a relationship with the federal government. And the Bureau of Indian Affairs did not, on most reservations, the Bureau of Indian Affairs owns able to maneuver a way to own, to have the minerals held in trust by the federal government, meaning that the tribe owns the land, but the oil underneath is held in trust by the federal government. So the tribe then, through the BIA, leased to oil companies, and the individual members of the tribe received these amazing oil royalties and were actually became the richest people per capita in the world in the early 1900s. Because the BIA and Congress had decided that full-blooded Osage Indians were incompetent and needed guardians to then handle their vast wealth, they were, to then handle their vast wealth.

They were, each one was assigned a white person in the area to manage their oil money. So they would give them their quarterly royalties and they would help them decide how much they could spend and on what. And because there was a guardianship in place for these Osages, and just like any guardianship, a guardian can petition for their ward's estate if that ward dies. The federal government created a situation where it became advantageous for the Indians to be systematically killed by the white guardians.

And that is the premise of the Scorsese film. And that is the premise of the Scorsese film. So there were guardians managing each individual in Native American because they were getting these, you know, residual checks from the from the from the exploration of the oil. And then these guardians were like, listen, we if we kill these guys off, we actually get end up. I get the money. The custodians of this and we get the money. So it sort of had this perverse incentive of this. Okay. And so now the chief of this tribe actually appeared.

We're going to fast forward to today, right? Right. So the chief of the tribe, the current chief of the tribe actually appeared in the movie and you reached out to him, correct? So, yes. So I believe the chief of the tribe is in the movie. His name is Standing Bear. i did not interview standing bear um i interviewed uh everett waller who is the chairman of of the the mineral council so they're in charge of of actually the oil in

osage county um and he's a native himself he's a member of that tribe and he was he had a speaking role in the movie and that what's happening right now and what and what he conveyed to me is that the way the federal government infantilized and victimized his osage ancestors continues on today and because of environmental constrictions because uh and because of uh conservation restrictions and and all of these different problems at the bia um who is in charge of the tribe's ability to actually produce oil and gas, the tribe has not been able to drill for oil since 2014. They're not able to actually use their land because of the way that the federal government has infringed on their rights. And the tribe heavilyents that and that is a part of the story the current problem that the tribe is facing that the corporate media and the leftists

who love this story because it's a it's fundamentally a white guilt story right it's white men killing off innocent native americans for money and and well um they can't actually tell the current story which has to do with American energy independence and with true tribal sovereignty, which is that they need to be completely separated from the federal government and the BIA if they're going to have the kind of freedom that, frankly, they deserve. Yeah, so just to talk about energy exploration, it still happens, right? So if there's state land, states in oil

rich areas, they're doing leases with oil companies and they're drilling or they're fracking. On private land, they're still drilling for oil and fracking for oil. The problem has become on federal land, Joe Biden and the Green Nuts have in essence said, we're not going to sell any more leases and they're going to try to shut down drilling on federal lands. And most of the land in this country is owned by the federal government. So it's a huge problem. It goes to your point, Avita, that the federal government has the mineral rights or the oil rights over the land that's owned by the tribe. And if the tribe privately owned all of the rights, they would be going, listen, we're going to manage this resource. We're going to sell leases. We're going to take a profit off the oil that's drilled. And we're going to have great wealth

at this tribe. But because the green nuts at the BIA and the Biden administration are there, they're saying, listen, you're not going to be able to drill for oil. But can they actually have windmills on their land? Yeah, this is a super interesting part of the story. So it's my understanding, this is what I got from Chairman Waller, is that all of Osage County was actually owned by the Osage tribe. And so all the minerals beneath Osage County belong to the tribe and are held in trust by the government. Because of a law that's complicated, but it's called, oh, now I'm forgetting the name, but there was allotment laws that essentially allowed for the transfer of property rights to non-tribal members. And this happened across the country.

tribal members and this happened across the country um so there are parts of osage county that are owned by non non uh non osages but the minerals beneath that property is still is still belongs to the tribe so on private property the city council of osage county unaffiliated with the tribe approved a massive eight over 8,000 acre windmill farm, which if you know anything about windmills, they have a very negative, very negative impact on people's health and also on the environment. And the tribe has heavily opposed this because the windmill farm did not seek approval from the BIA or from the tribe. And they used rock to actually build the base of these wind turbines, which means they

used minerals that belong legally to the tribe. And also the tribe opposes it just on an environmental basis and because it actually impedes on their ability to extract oil from the area. So it has become a massive decade-long fight to get these illegal wind farms off of Osage land, particularly because this is oil rich land. You can have green energy. That's fine. Why would you put giant windmills, push for green energy on land that is oil rich when we're especially when we're in the middle of an energy crisis? So the Osage are right over the target on this. They've been fighting for this for a long time. The BIA, who's supposed to be the Osage's advocate, has done hardly anything. They wrote

some nasty letters to the council and to the windmill farms, and they're currently litigating it in federal court. But the windmill farm is still up, and this giant Italian energy company that actually owns the windmill farm is receiving massive tax credits from Oklahoma. So the longer they drag this out, the more tax credits they get. And so this Native American tribe, the Osage, could actually be helping America during this energy crisis when we need to be. And, you know, we're on the verge potentially of a regional war in the Middle East where we could get an oil shock.

And they want to be on the forefront of because they understand that energy doesn't just make their tribe more prosperous and independent and free from, you know, the federal government in a way that, you know, has it. It's so obvious across the country and all the reservations, how the federal government has perpetuated cycles of poverty. But put that aside, they also understand that energy policy is national security policy and they want to be helpful to help America with with energy independence and security. And our federal government and the hacks at the BIA who are supposed to be helping them and representing them and advocating for them are more beholden to big green and big government

than they are to the interests of the Native American tribes that they're supposed to be representing. This is an outrageous story that must, and the eve of this film coming out, which shows the kind of abuse, and you're right, Evita, infantilization of Native tribes that has been systemic and perpetuated by our federal government continues today to the detriment of the country and the tribe. And it's, by the way, just as well, it's liberal abuse. It's liberals that won't give them the

power and the right to have self-determination, to manage their land the way they see fit. And so again, but it's interesting that liberals making movies won't tell that story. But that really is the full story. You can write a lot of wrongs by giving power back to a tribe that has been abused over the course of the last 100, 130 years. Wouldn't that be nice? And wouldn't that be nice if that was part of the story? But it's not because there'd be an attack on liberals and Joe Biden. Well, and Leo DiCaprio is a big hypocritical, as hypocritical, by the way, as King Charles on the green energy stuff. He's always, apparently his new like child girlfriend that he has. He always has another, you know, 19 or 20 year old. He's how old now? He's in his upper 40s. He only dates girls who are like, you know, barely out of their teens. And apparently they're together because they bonded over green, you know, the existential threat of, you know, climate change.

But then he's on these giant mega yachts with these hot chicks all the time. And flying on private jets. And flying on private jets to get to the mega yachts. Too bad that Leo DiCaprio, who probably thinks he's so super sensitive and wokey because he did this movie,

which is an important story to tell, is not going to tell the story about how we continue to oppress the Osage tribe through energy policies and Big Green and the grift. I can't believe that flippant wind farm is on their property. We know. Yeah, great point. Excellent story. So if we want to read more about this, it's fascinating. It's on the federal list. It's not. You can check. But not yet. Not yet, but almost.

Right. Hopefully, almost on. Hopefully by the end of today when this drops, it'll be up. And check out everything else that Evita's writing on. Great topics today. Evita, thank you for joining us. I am going to go out and see Killers of the Flower Moon. I love those slow burn drama movies.

So that's for me. We'll see. We'll see if Sean is interested. Probably won't. But listen, Evita, thank you for... It could be a great date night for us. It could be, but it could maybe go to something else. See Die Hard instead. Yes, go see Die Hard. John Wick. I like that. All right, Evita, thank you for joining us. Good to see you. Good to see you, honey.

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