From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - LSU Student Tragedy, Phones In School, & Justice For Chicago's Tamale Vendors

Episode Date: January 27, 2023

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down to discuss their daughter Evita's reporting on the recent slew of robberies of tamale vendors in Chicago and Mayor Lori Lightfoot's response to the crime wave.    Later, they weigh in on Florida Governor Ron DeSantis' proposed ban on cell phones in schools and share the importance of educating children on the dangers of alcohol in the wake of the death of Louisiana State University student Madison Brooks. Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to From the Kitchen Table. We are live at the Fox Studios, not at our kitchen table. I'm here with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, Rachel Campbell-Stuffy. You have another co-host today. I do. So we had a little bit of a, you know, it was bad weather in Jersey. They decided to make the schools half day. Half day. But we had plans.

I was filling in for Ainsley. I had Varneyney we're doing our podcast here anyway valentina is joining us this morning because you know it's just that kind of a day so if you hear squawks in the background that's who it is it's valentina we call this a family-friendly show it is a family-friendly show so anyway sean this has been a tapping tapping tapping this has been a massive week for, tapping. This has been a massive week for our family. You have launched your new show, The Bottom Line with Dagan and Duffy on the Fox Business Channel, 6 p.m. You're competing with Brett Baer.

The Goliath. The Goliath, right? And also with CNBC as well. Yes. And you're beating CNBC. Yeah, we had the third. So our launch night was Monday night at 6pm as you said, Eastern, and we had the third highest rated business show on a business network

in the country that night. So it was actually a very cool data launch, and I gotta tell you, I'm having so much fun with Dagan. I knew her a little bit. She'd interviewed me when I was in Congress. I always give her a hard time. She was like, she'd come at me hard, I thought. We've had more fun together, and she's so smart and so nice. So it's been great. I've known her for a long time too, because I've often done, kind of got my start here at Fox

on Outnumbered and on Maria Bartiromo's show. So I got to know Dagan quite well. And she is one of the nicest people, a really kind heart, loves her family, takes care of her parents. I mean, that's the kind of person she is. And it's really great seeing you guys together. The show has been really fun. And it's just I love that you guys are taking business issues and you're making them very kitchen table-y and accessible to everybody. And it's been great. One thing you may not know about Dagan is she knows sign language.

So we're doing some sign with Valentina who's here today. So she's like, this is how you say mommy and daddy. So we're kind of going through sign. Valentina's learning sign. And so, yes. So Dagan and Valentina have been communicating.

And I saw Dagan outside your office and Valentina was giving lots of hugs. Lots of hugs. Every producer of your show got a hug from Valentina, which was really nice. It was a lot of fun. So if you haven't seen it yet, tune in. It's at 6 p.m., 5 Central.

And we're covering a lot of the political issues. But those political issues that have those themes that affect our kitchen table, which are really business issues. So it's been a big week for you, but it's been a big week for the Duffy family because Evita has been doing some reporting down in Chicago. week for the Jeffy family because Evita has been doing some reporting down in Chicago and Tucker Carlson and his show took note of what she was doing down there, really giving a shining a spotlight on a very hardworking Latino community inside the city of Chicago and what they're struggling with. Namely, she took the angle from the side of some of the tamales vendors. And so why don't we show a clip? Because she was on Tucker Carlson last night.

That was a big deal for us as well. And so she was on last night. We're going to play that right now for you. Tucker, just for a little bit of context about this community. It's a majority Hispanic. These people work very hard. They're all evening making tamales. And they're up early in the morning at 3 a.m. in the frigid cold

Selling to blue-collar workers and they're they're very vulnerable a lot of them, but they're out on the street They're working on a cash only basis. It's very dark in the early hours of the morning And so many of them have been beat up like the man in the video Some have had guns pointed at them and robbed all of the vendors that I talked to were have had guns pointed at them and robbed. All of the vendors that I talked to were absolutely traumatized. And Lori Lightfoot's solution is to say, go cashless. But all of the vendors that I talked to said, that is just not a possibility. We work on a cash-only basis. Our customers are on a cash-only basis. This is very normal for impoverished communities. And Lori Lightfoot would know this if she cared about them remotely. But the vendors that I talked to said she doesn't care.

And of course, it's all very ironic as well, because Lori Lightfoot and Kim Fox are all day preaching to us about equity and making policies around equity. And yet the people that are being hurt the most by the way that this city is run are poor minorities. I'm going to talk to you about what happened there, Sean, because I kind of have the inside scoop. Now, Evita does not speak Spanish. So when she went down there, she conducted these interviews with another vendor who spoke, one of the few that spoke English and Spanish.

So they did that. And then when all the footage came back, I had to help her translate a lot of it, make sure all the captions were right. So I spent hours with her doing that. So I know the story came back. I had to help her translate a lot of it, make sure all the captions were right. So I spent hours with her doing that. So I know the story very well from the mouths of the vendors themselves. And I have to tell you, it was just heartbreaking. These are women and men, most of them women, who get up, they cook and make tamales, you

know, through the night. And then they take their food at 3 in the morning. They set up their stands. And they sell to all the day workers that are there in Chicago. The ones that go and are on building sites and landscaping and doing the hard lifting all over the city of Chicago. They want to get their tamales so they can store them for lunch. Some of them eat them for breakfast. And here we go.

We're getting some notes brought in to us here. If you hear all this rustling paper, that's Valentina. And so anyway, these vendors are, there's gangs in a neighboring neighborhood that are coming over to this Latino neighborhood harass, all the citizens. But in particular, these vendors, Tamale's vendors are very vulnerable because some of them have food trucks, but many of them just have a little table. They're out there in the cold. It's freezing at this time of year in Chicago. And these gangsters are coming up to them,

taking all their cash, scaring the heck out of them, pointing guns to the heads of these, you know, moms just trying to make a little bit of money. And the mayor of Chicago learned what was happening and she had a solution. They're robbing them, right? They're robbing them of all their cash, their purses. She said, they said they'll come, they'll take their cash.

They'll rob the customers as well. And so finally word gets back because nobody's doing anything. There's not enough cops in Chicago, not enough at least patrolling this poor neighborhood. And Lori Lightfoot gets asked about this. And her solution to this problem is, well, why don't the vendors just go cashless? That's the solution to this problem. Which is impossible when you sell tamales for like $3. But if you're out of touch and you don't know how people operate in their lives, that might make sense.

It's like, well, don't use cash. Use your credit card. Use your Apple Pay. That makes sense to Lori Lightfoot. But if you actually are in the community, you would recognize a lot of these people are illegal. But a lot of them are just poor. And if you're poor, it's really hard to get a bank account. So you can't get a debit card.

You can't get a credit card. You probably don't have an Apple iPhone. And so these people are like, listen, that's the dumbest idea. We only deal in cash because our customers only deal in cash. What's fascinating, though, is instead of, again, looking at the root cause of the problem, taking a line from Kamala Harris, the root cause is there's too much crime. You need more cops on the street. You need to put bad people who put guns to others' heads and rob them. They need to go to jail and jail for a really long time. But if you're weak on crime

and let these thugs run rampant, you have a solution that says just don't use cash. So what the vendors were telling Evita was that basically these people will rob them if they get caught, if they even get caught. They're out on the streets within 24 hours. And so what's happened is a really interesting thing. There's not enough cops on the street. Actually, there's, you know, who wants to be a cop? And, you know, the recruitment is so low. Who wants to be a cop in Chicago where you're not supported?

You can't do your job. You can't do your job. You're not supported. in Chicago where you're not supported. You can't do your job. You're not supported. And I'm sure that Lori Lightfoot's probably making sure her nicer neighborhoods where she lives and her friends live are patrolled. So this little immigrant community where there's not a lot, they don't have a lot of political voice, are being neglected. And so what they've had to resort to, Sean, is to create their own patrolling. So, you know, some of them are the sons and husbands of some of these vendors, and they've created what they call the brown berets. Brown meaning, you know, their own

skin, but they also wear a brown beret so they can be identified. And they've been trying to patrol the streets at the hours, these early dark hours where so many of these moms and dads are selling their tamales and they've depended on that. But in addition to that, they're so desperate that the Latin gangs have said, well, this is our neighborhood because the ones robbing them are coming from another neighborhood. So they've offered their protection. And these people are so desperate. They're taking protection from the Latin kings. But they're probably paying the the latin kings it's about the pain the latin kings to protect them i don't know if the latin kings are doing it like that or if the latin kings

just have some pride like hey these are this is our neighborhood you're not going to come in here they're gangbangers they they're you know so in any case the bottom line is that the bottom line see i'm using your your show name a here. Bottom line is that these neighborhoods are turning into the third world, you know, neighborhoods that these people came from. Because, as you know, in Mexico and El Salvador, where the cartels are powerful, they also provide the protection that the police force can't provide. You know, these liberals tell us that they want to have a more civilized society, a more civilized community where you can be compassionate and let people get a second and third chance. They should be released after committing a crime without any cash bail. They get a sentence. The sentence is really small.

And they think that's going to make society better. And to your point, Rachel, this is uncivilized. This is the Wild West. That's what one of the vendors saidcivilized. This is the Wild West. That's what one of the vendors said. He said, this is the Wild West. And by the way, in a community meeting, they said, there was a community meeting, some chief of police came, and they said, well, you guys have guns to protect yourself. We want to have guns to protect ourselves. And they said, well, you can't because you're not.

Only gang members and cops can have guns. Well, they said, because you're not. Only gang members and cops can have guns. Well, they said because you're not citizens. Some of you aren't citizens. But the truth is, really, it's very difficult to have a gun in Chicago unless you are a cop or unless you're a criminal and you got one. When you talk about root causes, the root cause of this is far deeper than, you know, Democrats pitching civilization when it's uncivilized. It's that through the course of the last decades, we have taught people in our school system, we truly have been vocifying them, but the culture has been vocifying people in these cities for a long time to the point that voters will accept this.

They'll say, this is an acceptable form of government, an acceptable form of law enforcement in my community. And I'm going to vote for Lori Lightfoot again. And by the way, a Republican or even a nonpartisan person, an independent who ran for mayor in Chicago, doesn't have a shot at winning. That's how deranged and delusional the voters are. I'm a Republican. I'm a conservative. deranged and delusional the voters are. I'm a Republican. I'm a conservative. But if my Republican Party was that and Democrats were offering law and order, I'm like, I'm sorry, maybe I'll come back to the Republican Party. But today I'm a Democrat because they're going

to protect my family, my community, my job, my livelihood. I'm with them because you look at basic needs. Being safe in your community is one of the fundamental basic needs of a civilized society. Well, I think that's why Lori Lightfoot, maybe she doesn't want to do this. And what she does and what she specializes in is stirring up racial tension. And they've been able to convince these communities that the real problem are all the racists out there. I think people are starting to wake up.

Unfortunately, in this little neighborhood, these are very politically, you know, not powerful people. And it was, like I said, very heartbreaking. I'm super proud of Evita. You don't often get people going into these Latino communities. And again, hard working. One of the vendors said, we don't want, you know, welfare. We want to work, but we need a safe environment to cook and sell and do the things that we do. As you know,

Hispanics are the most entrepreneurial demographic in the country. This is a fact. They start businesses. I hear this all the time from Rachel. I'm telling you, it's true. This is part of our culture. They start businesses at three times the rate of any other demographic. You talk

about small businesses. They are natural conservatives in this way. Unfortunately, in this neighborhood, they're suffering. And as Evita said in her very excellent piece on Tucker Carlson, she said, you know, these people came here for the American dream. And Lori Lightfoot is serving up a Chicago nightmare. So kudos to Evita Duffy for shining a spotlight on these people who need this attention. Valentina does not like this story, I guess, because she's walking and crying in the background. There is so much going on in this podcast. This is actually a great way for people to understand

what family dinner is like at our table or just hanging out and talking. It's a good nugget of our life. Yeah, just a little bit. So it's a lot going on with you. March on. It's a lot. All right, next topic. What do we have? Okay, so listen, this is one that I'm really excited about. So Ron DeSantis is at a press conference, and he's, you know, he's, by the way, he's somebody who's saying we want, we want, need to take, deal with TikTok and the Chinese, but he also made a comment about kids with phones in schools. And so he's talking

just like a regular parent, because, you know, whenever I see, you know, kids filming, sometimes I'm glad the kids have the phones or filming their woke teachers. But for the most part, I'm like, why do they have phones in school? What's happening here? And so he said, you know, I think that we should have a policy where there are no phones in schools. Have the kids put their phones in a basket at the end of school or maybe even during break. They get to, you know, send out a few texts. But there's no reason why kids should have phones in school. Meanwhile, this woman, I can't remember her name and I wish I could remember her name.

She works for MSNBC. She tweeted out a clip of that news conference of Ron DeSantis, Governor Ron DeSantis, saying that. And then she basically said, see, he's an authoritarian. Ron DeSantis is authoritarian when he's actually just being a parent. And your thoughts, Sean? Well, so I look at this story. And when we were growing up, we didn't have phones, number one. We didn't have phones in school. We didn't even have phones when we were dating. That's didn't have phones, number one. We didn't have phones in school. We didn't even have phones when we were dating.

That's how old we are. I know. When we did the real world, we had like pagers back in the day. That's like the 90s. Did you page me? I don't know. Maybe. You probably didn't call me back in those days.

And I think that, first of all, I think that it's an opportunity to cheat in school. Sure. But I think that you look at the social skills of kids, and they're not great. They know how to operate in their phone, but when you take their eyes off the phone and make them engage with the world, they kind of aren't very good. And so wouldn't it be great to say, we're here to learn, and we're not going to learn in our phones. We're going to learn from each other and from our teachers and from our textbooks. And then the great times in schools are when class is out and you're going, you have the five minutes or four minutes. Valentina's going to pull the light down over here. She's going to destroy our little studio here. But, but, but

she's out of control. But that five minutes. I can see the producers. She's pulling on a cord. And the producers are in the glass. Whoa. Okay, you're here with mommy. This is the disaster of a podcast. All right. But that five minutes between the time that you're between classes, how many people did you talk to? You talked about what you might have learned, what happened in class, who asked the dumb question.

Like that social is at lunch period. Everyone's talking and it's great. It's a great part of the memory of school and a great part of socialization. It's just a lot less socializing. I agree with you. And the last point on this is there's so much bullying today that happens on social media. Wouldn't it be great if you had a break from all of that during the school hours? Well, you bring up a good point

because there are studies that have come out just even in the last week, some pretty definitive studies about the mental health of young people. And parents, actually, they polled parents and said, what are you most concerned about with your kids? Now, dad duty now. No, I'm dad duty now. Yeah, it's dad duty.

They asked, what are you most concerned about with your kids? And they said, I'm most concerned that my child might pull the light down in the podcast. That's not what they said. They said their mental health of their child. And so I think that there's probably, it's not a coincidence that you have you have phones being introduced to young people and the mental health of young people deteriorating. Parents noticing, by the way, unions fighting to give Valentina my phone. Yeah, exactly. As we're talking about the phone, she's looking at herself. OK, but can I bring up another point about this?

OK, but can I bring up another point about this that was interesting? The woman from MSNBC who said that Ron DeSantis is liberty, is probably more than likely supported shutting down schools, shutting down churches, shutting down businesses. These people on the left are authoritarians. But when a parent who happens to be a governor says, maybe we shouldn't have phones in school, which resonates with normal parents. They call them an authoritarian. But also, Ron DeSantis is giving more freedom to more people. If you weren't aware of asking Ron DeSantis' Florida, you could have. If you didn't want to, you didn't have to. He lets people keep more of their money because there's not a state income tax. That's right.

They said the same thing with Donald Trump. And Donald Trump did more to give power back to people, power back to states, to local governments. He decentralized power. Ron DeSantis has decentralized power. But for a few things, I mean, if you look at what he's done in schools also in regard to CRT, he has said, listen, we're going to have a state review because we think that some of these schools are out of control, which now he's taking power from the local communities. But those school boards were teaching... Queer theory to third like, third graders.

Come on. I mean, like, there's just no need for that. They're talking political issues. Yeah. And we don't use our state money to teach politics in our school or indoctrinate our kids. I serve as Ron in the House. He has been a remarkable governor. Yeah.

He has his pulse on what people are thinking and doing and he actually takes action. He actually takes action and implements policies. Yeah. Took on Disney and their woke stuff, taking on this curriculum and saying simple things

like, maybe we should, I mean, that's really not that controversial to say you shouldn't have phones in school.

The other thing I want to mention about- But on that, I think for kids, they're like, no, I want my phone, right? Because they're addicted to their phone. But I think most parents who see their kid's addiction to their phone go, hey, that's a great idea. Yeah. Give them a break for eight hours of the phone, for sure.

Break the addiction. Yes. Sending them to rehab school. And I think one of the things that you and I have done for ourselves, I mean, we're not... Look, Sean's entertaining Valentina. But Valentina's got the cameras on and she's watching herself. She's watching herself. But here's the deal. We have nine kids. When kids started having phone, our oldest Evita, our son Jack, they wanted phones. And I think around eighth, ninth grade, we let them have a phone. And we thought, you and I reassess, we always say the best part about having

nine kids is you get a lot of do-overs. And boy, did we. Get it wrong, then get it right. That's right. So when the fourth, is she the fourth? Fifth. She's the fifth? Yes. Did it take us that long to figure this out? The fifth child, we got it right. We're slow learners. We're slow learners. Well, you know what that affects? We didn't really start to see the impact of it. The fifth child, we got it right. We took a step. We're slow learners. We're slow learners. Well, you know what? We didn't really start to see the impact of it. So that child, our Palomita, Paloma, she is in ninth grade. She does not have a phone. Does not.

She begs for a phone. If she wants to call her sister, who she's really close to, who's now a freshman in college, she has to borrow my phone to call her. But she does not have a phone. And we have no regrets about it. And she will complain and say everybody else in her life has one and we're weird, but we don't care. We learned our lesson. We don't think it's healthy. There's no need for her to have it at this moment right now. The kids make all kinds of promises. And I feel like, listen, you love your kids. Like,

I promise dad, I won't get social media. I won't be on the different social media apps. And I need to be able to call you if something goes wrong. All kinds of things they'll tell you and promise you. But in the end, once they get it, it's like saying, I'll be responsible with crack cocaine. I'll be good with heroin. And you're like, okay, just use it responsibly. Yeah, just use the crack responsibly. It's really addictive. It is highly addictive. And you give it to them at a time where they can't manage it, and the time sucked from school and from their families, and even from their friends is a very real problem. And so I hope more parents don't take five kids to learn this.

They can learn it on kid one or kid two. Can I give you a tip on how to make it happen, though? The pressure is real. The pressure is real, and exactly. Here's something you could do to alleviate the pressure. Get to know the parents of some of your kids' friends and then make a pact. Us five parents, us three or four parents, we are going to not let our kids have a phone. And so then when your kid says, and a lot of times parents do because they don't want their kid to feel left out,

right? So, I get that. There's a lot of social interaction that happens there, a lot of planning for events and stuff. But if those four girls, maybe they just have a flip phone, you know, so they can't get on the social media apps, they can call each other. But much better if you unite

together, and therefore when your kid goes, I'm the only one. That's not true. Mary and Jane and Sidney and Billy and Bob, their parents don't let them have a phone too. And the time to do that is not when they're in eighth grade. Now, when they're in seventh grade, if you kind of know you're in a stable location, we're raising our family here. Other families, it's in third grade, second grade, fourth grade to go, hey,, four or five years down the road when we start getting real pressure, let's stick together and wait until our kids are much older.

Whether it's going to be your junior year, maybe it's your senior year. I was going to say, even if you're in high school, if your kid's in high school, you can still do it. You're still the parent. You still pay the bills. You still have the right as a parent to do that. But it will be easier for you if your child's best friends are also in the same boat. And maybe you can do the educating of the other parents. I mean, the stats are out there. If you look at the psychology, they're looking at mental health. You see, you know, kids' mental health's pretty

stable. Introduction of phones, it starts decreasing. It's obvious what's happening to their emotions and to their self-esteem. Here's a tool to get around it as well. They need to be maybe on social media because that's the way they're all communicating. So we have a family computer in the house. We have an Apple computer. It's not far off of the kitchen. And our little Paloma who doesn't have the phone, she's an eighth grade. No, she's a freshman. She thinks she's really kind of crafty, like doing something that we don't know. She'll go in there and for a while she'll sign on. I don't know what account she's on. I should know that. I don't. And that's a problem. But she'll then talk to her friends

or email her friends or sometimes- Like on a Google chat. Or Google meet her friends. Yeah, Google meet. But I know how long she's in there. And who she's with. And she doesn't take that to bed with her. She doesn't wake up with it. When we're eating dinner, she can't grab it and use it. It's like she might go in there and think she's like really, again, really sneaky. I'm doing my homework in here.

Yeah, exactly. For a couple hours. But it's a way to go. You might have some access on a family computer, but you can't live your life with this device. And I think that's a kind of good on Ron DeSantis. Good on Ron DeSantis. I'm glad. And by the way, glad he's standing up to it and glad he's exposing these hypocrite liberals who are the ones who shut down our country and force people to inject their bodies with an, you know, an untested drug,

or at least didn't go through a long-term study. Those people are now exposed because they're calling Ron DeSantis an authoritarian for just being a good parent. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Light up Black Friday with Freedom Mobile and get 50 gigs to use in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico for just 35 bucks a month for 18 months. Plus, get a one-time gift of five gigs of Roam Beyond data. Conditions apply. Details at freedommobile.ca. Last topic, Sean. We're going to do this really quickly, but I think it's really important. Some really sad news. Louisiana State University had a student. Her name was Madison Brooks. student. Her name was Madison Brooks. She was at a bar out with her friends, presumably.

They were getting wild drunk. She had an alcohol level that was, by the way, if you're hearing quiet, it's because Valentina went into the arms of our producer. She's giving her a hug. She's getting a hug and she left the studio. Oh, it's so peaceful. I think we'll have to keep going. This might be a date night. Can I say one more thing? So now the school's calling us to probably say school's going to close down right now and the kids are going to come home early and we'll have to figure out how to get them The other one, yeah, the other group of kids.

I'm going to end this podcast soon because I'm going to have to leave. I just want to say this. This was a terribly sad story. If you have a freshman, sophomore, junior, senior in college, as we do, this is like your worst nightmare. So she gets drunk for some reason. She's in a sorority. None of her sisters are there. None of her friends are with her.

She's stumbling out. She agrees to get a ride with some guys that she met in the bar. She was so drunk she was falling off her stool. She was falling off her stool. She made bad decisions. I think everyone can look through their youth and go, we all made bad decisions. And by the grace of God, we're still here. So I don't want to throw stones, but she was making some bad decisions. Of course. And I think her parents would agree that she made some bad decisions,

but what happened to her was absolute evil. She gets into the car with these four men. It was four males. Four males. One has not been identified yet. One was 17. One was 28. The other was 22. I don't know the age of the one that has not been identified yet.

But in any case, two of them sodomized her in the backseat, one after another. And then at some point, she must have come to, I don't understand the timeline, but she decides that she, she wants to get out of the car and they, she calls an Uber. They let her out in the dark, in the middle of nowhere. She's drunk as all get out. And she's kind of stumbling around. And when the Uber comes to get her, she gets struck and killed by the car because it's dark. By the Uber driver, right? Yeah. I believe by the Uber driver, but in any case, yeah, and there it is. And I think, you know, this morning when I was on Fox & Friends, I interviewed one of her high school friends

who described what a kind-hearted, wonderful girl she was, that this girl that I interviewed had been bullied and had a really tough time socially. And this Madison Brooks, who died so tragically and in such an evil fashion, that she was an emotional support to her and really wants everyone to remember her for that. I also saw a lot of the Instagram pictures of her family. She has beautiful parents. She has two younger brothers that she's clearly very close to. This is a family's nightmare. And the reason

we're telling the story is I think there's a lot of lessons for young people. I'm certainly going to send this story to my freshman girl who's going to school over in Texas, because this could happen to any girl. As you said, Sean, you know, all of us have been in college have been in college, have drank more than we thought we were going to drink. Who knows? Somebody also could have spiked her drink with something. We don't know what happened. But the point is you need to be very careful. You always should have your friends with you.

Never be alone if you're a young woman. with you. Never be alone if you're a young woman. Never, ever be alone drinking and not have your friends with you to take care of you and never, ever agree to get into the car. Now, I don't believe she probably knew what she was doing when she got in that car. Her alcohol level was so high, Sean, that the authorities say that she probably should have died of alcohol poisoning. Her blood alcohol concentration was 0.319. So 0.319, the legal limit for driving a vehicle is 0.08. So what is that? Four times the legal limit. The boys in this case say that this was consensual,

that obviously they're not responsible for her death because she got struck by a car, but they're being held right now. They've been arrested because of charges of rape. They say, no, this was consensual. I find it very hard to believe that a young woman with that level of alcohol could possibly consent to this. And I will say the 17-year-old, who might be the key person, seems to be saying more and said, you know, he did have sex with this girl and that he felt terrible because she was so drunk. So a little bit of an admission that this might not have been entirely consensual. Poor girl, poor family. We don't know the facts. We're going to come out.

So we're commenting on this before we know everything, right? And was it in fact consensual or not? But then the question is, at this alcohol level, could she even give consent? And someone might rebut that and say, but did she order her own Uber? If she ordered an Uber, could she give? Because there's a whole bunch of issues here. The bottom line is kids, especially girls, stick together, right? And we talk to our- Yeah, and don't drink. I mean, honestly, I mean, I know that sounds hypocritical.

But you have to be a realist. I know, I know, but you know what? Kids are drinking. I know, I know. They're going to go, if you're going to do this, make sure you all sit together. And I know that our one who's a freshman, her friends go out together and they all kind of have this pack that no one leaves unless they all go together. I know. And I say, don't drink. Yesterday I was organizing in the basement, some of the alcohol bottles. And I'm like, wow, I don't, I mean,

I don't drink. You know that, Sean. I'm like, these bottles are getting low. And obviously, you know, we were gone on New Year's. So I don't know what happened there. We have some investigating to do. We have some interrogating to do of our own in our house. But that is what young people do. They do experiment like that. And you see people, you know, whether it's experimenting with drugs as well. Some of them are falling, you know, falling dead from fentanyl.

They didn't try to get fentanyl, but their drug was laced with it. There are lots of things that can go wrong. But to young women out there who are in college, those young co-eds, young women, whoever you are, just know that your safety is in numbers. Your safety is in numbers. And try not to drink to the point where you're impaired because boy, anything can happen. Even beyond impaired. You just, I mean, you can't even think straight. I just, I think they deserve our prayers. This family does. I just, I can't imagine the anguish and heartbreak here. And again,

it's a, it's a lesson for if anything good, this horrible story, this horrible situation, this family is going through. The lesson is, taught your kids, if you're a kid, taught your friends about how you all sit together because you don't want to have the same thing happen to you or some other bad thing happen to you that can happen with a blood alcohol concentration. Yeah, I heard the story and I'm like, where are her sorority sisters? Where are all her friends? She shouldn't have been alone.

So listen, that is a sad story. And just by the way, we woke up this morning. Sadly, I had to wake up when Rachel did because her alarm was too loud for me. I had to fill in for Ainsley on Fox. That's at 3 a.m. And the first thing she said was, I read the story that I had to do the interview in the morning. I read the story and I couldn't sleep last night. Yeah, I read it before I went to bed and I really regretted it because it was on my mind the whole night. And when I woke up, it was the first thing I thought about. And I thought, I'm going to forward this story to our girls because that's important for them to know. Well, listen, we appreciate you joining us for this really crazy podcast with guest starring Valentina. Yeah, I think she was the star of this podcast. Papers crackling, squawking.

It's made it interesting for us. It's kind of a hot mess here. From the kitchen table, it's a hot mess. Hi, Valentina. She's waving now. She's behind the glass. Therefore, you can't hear her right now. She's waving.

She's so sweet. Yes. I wonder if in the post-production, they'll be able to turn down out. Turn down her voice. I don't know if that's possible. That might take some production magic. We'll see. We'll see. But listen, thanks for joining us on our podcast. Before we go, can I just say congratulations

on your new show, Sean. I'm super proud of you. I appreciate that. It's just, it's a great show. It's a great time slot that you got. You and Dagan are a great team together. I can't tell you what, I'm grateful and you say this a lot, but I'm grateful to be at Fox. I'm grateful that we get to do this podcast together at Fox. We have the freedom to talk about the issues that we like, that we're passionate about. The fact that Fox would have enough faith in me

after being here for a couple of years to give me this to give me this platform with, with tagging on. I mean, this is, this is the highest rated business network in the country and the, and the country with the highest rated news programming in the country. And so I just, the Fox has been really generous and nice for our family that we get to work together like this and be together as a family. Just like you used to work at CNN. It's so much better at Fox.

It's a lot. Yes. Yes. It's better at Fox. I smile Yes. It's better at Fox. I smile a lot more right now at Fox. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. We're not going to bring you into the family fight on how that happened, but I get a lot of I told you so's from Rachel. That's true. It's so much nicer on the Fox side. And I am really grateful to Fox. They've given us, you know, a lot of opportunities.

am really grateful to Fox. They've given us, you know, a lot of opportunities. As you can see from, you know, this situation today, it's a very family friendly network and corporation. I remember when I was first pregnant with that little girl and I found out and I had to go tell my boss and I told Sean, I'm like, okay, I'm going to have to go let my bosses know that I'm going to have nine kids. I mean, how are they possibly at the time we were living in Wisconsin and I had to come out here and twice a week, twice a month. And I just thought they're just, I have a complicated life. How can this network?

And the first thing they said was, oh my goodness, congratulations. Let's get you into wardrobe and get you some new clothes. You're going to need that. And they were just so supportive, so family friendly. And then when you came on, onto the network, you know, they've let us do a lot of stuff together and now you have your own show and it is fantastic.

What you see on air, they practice what they preach. Yeah. It's a very family friendly network. It's a great blessing. And the belly of the beast, New York, they do that. So. Yeah. It's a little, it's a little, I'm going to say it's a little safe space. A little safe space. For conservatives. With Christmas trees in front, American flags. American flags.

And, you know, yeah. Congratulations, Sean. Thank you. It is The Bottom Line with Dagan and Duffy at 6 p.m. Eastern time on the Fox Business Channel. Make sure that you tune into the Fox Business Network at 6 p.m. We have a lot of fun, good information flow. And I'm learning a lot of terms from Dagan that I've never heard before. So you can learn with me from all of her commentary.

Oh, yeah. I told Sean that. Like pig potatoes. Yesterday, I was getting worried because I thought, did I catch a twang in Sean's voice? I'm like, you can't go country on me. You're a Midwestern lumberjack. Well, first of all, I kind of have this habit of like, I can start to, I Hillary Clinton people, like I will start to copy their inflection. That's what Hillary did

at that church. I'm like, I don't think I was, but if I do, please remind me, text me and say. What did Hillary say? We have to put that in there. I'm so bone tired. At a black church in the South, I'm like, come on. If I had Hillary Clinton, Rachel promises to text me. I promise to bring him back to his Midwestern roots if he starts hanging out with Dagan too much. I love it. Well, listen, if you like our podcast, like this hot mess of a podcast, please rate, review, and subscribe to From the Kitchen Table. Wherever you get your podcasts, we would appreciate it.

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