From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Making America Healthy Again: With Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

Prior to Robert F. Kennedy Jr suspending his 2024 presidential campaign, Rachel had the opportunity to speak with him and learn more about his passion and plans to “make America healthy again.” An initiative close to his heart and one that he’s connected with former President Trump on, now that he has officially endorsed the former President in the 2024 Election.   Sean and Rachel react to the one with one with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and share their thoughts on ensuring that kitchen tables around the country are safeguarded from hazardous foods.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So you can look and feel good about gifting and wearing them. Shop your wishlist 25% off at Mijeri.com today. Hey, everyone. Welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host of the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Sean, it's great to be back at the kitchen table. And today we have a special episode because about two and a half weeks ago, before RFK Jr. him on Fox and Friends. So we were able to pack a 12 minute interview into about four and four and a half minutes. And so I just thought, you know, I told me people wanting to hear the whole thing. We thought, let's just play it all 12 minutes. You can get it. And this is a conversation specifically about foods, what kind of foods, what he knows from the research he's done and the studies he's looked at chronic disease in America into the foods, the kinds of things that we allow in our country that other countries don't allow.

So I'll just let RFK Jr. break it down. But here's the full 12 minutes of interview. And then Sean and I will come back on the other end and give our thoughts on it. Here you go. These are some of the most common items found in grocery stores across America. But what's really inside of them will shock you. One of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s campaign promises is to make families across the country healthy. And he's here to talk to us about that. Robert, thanks for joining us today. I thought it'd be great to just kind of look at some of these items because parents are encountering these food items in grocery stores everywhere. Maybe we could just start

right here with seed oils. We are hearing a lot about seed oils. Why should people be worried read about these kind of products. Seed oils are one of the most unhealthy ingredients that we have in foods and seed oils. The reason they're in the foods is because they're heavily subsidized. They're very, very cheap, but they are associated with all kinds of very, very serious illnesses, including body-wide inflammation. Right. Which affects all of our health. It's one of the worst things you can eat. And it's almost impossible to avoid. If you eat any processed foods, you're going to be eating seed oil.

Right. And it's interesting. The government subsidizes it. Why would the government want to subsidize something that's going to make people sick? And then in the end, we all end up paying for that in terms of health care costs, which are skyrocketing. Yeah, because that is a direct result of corruption. About 75 percent of FDA's budget comes from regulated industry. And that means food processors and pharmaceutical industry all of them profit from

a sick population the advisors who actually choose the nutrition guidelines are almost all of corrupted they're conflicted and so we're getting recommendations that are not connected to our health rather they are um they're creating they serve the mercantile interests right of the companies who are creating our food and essentially mass poisoning the entire united states population you know the a big item that and by the way it's getting very expensive are cereals but now because the economy is so bad under joe biden a lot of we're hearing a lot of stories about families saying i i can only afford cereal for dinner you know, even though they're getting more expensive, it's still cheaper than buying some of the other more healthier alternatives. It's also more convenient

for some people. But this is full of food coloring and other items that are bad for you. Why? Why is the food coloring in particular bad food coloring?, you see here, yellow food coloring, that is a petroleum product. It's associated with depression. It's associated with autoimmune injuries and ADHD. And red dye also is very bad. In Europe, the same companies are producing the same products, but they're using natural

coloring. But here they can get away with it. We have about almost a thousand chemicals that are in our food that are either outright banned in Europe or actively discouraged. So you wouldn't be able to buy this kind of stuff in Europe. You ask about why it's so cheap, why it's so ubiquitous.

It's because we subsidize the worst foods. We subsidize it with about 70% of our food stamp program is to process foods, which are all poison. The school lunch program is mainly processed foods. Yeah. So it's targeting poor people very often. Exactly. In Europe, you know, the equivalent in Europe of food stamps

sends you to a farmer's market to buy actually good food. But we are poisoning poor people in our country. And the cheapest foods, which is the ones the government buys for those programs, are the foods that are heavily subsidized. So you're getting seed oils, you're getting, you know, chemical food dyes. And it's really it's insane. Yeah, no, it truly is. And it is sort of like it's a war on people who are poor because some of them do depend on government assistance. And government assistance is is basically steering their family, their children towards things that will make them sick.

One of the things that's interesting is you'll see on on labels and people are trying. You know, I know people are much more aware of, like, say, high fructose corn syrup. They know that's bad. But then they read something like natural flavors, which is this catch off phrase that I guess was lobbied for. But the ingredients in natural flavors are not really natural. No. In our country, natural flavors are chemical products. You can't trust what's on the ingredient label. And the reason for that again is government corruption it's that the agency the usda the fda have been captured by the industries they're supposed to regulate and they all have an interest in in subsidies and then in mass poisoning the american public and

you know i mean sugar is in in sweden it would be unthinkable to give to for the government to pay for sugar for two year olds. Yeah. And that's what we're doing in our country. About 10 percent of food stamps go to sugar drinks. And it's just sickening. It's sickening poor people. Yeah. We're also subsidizing formula for infants, which is also highly processed and not the best for them. And I don't think women are getting enough information on that. I want to talk about pesticides and then let's talk about the policy. So let's talk about the pesticides and the things that worry you about.

I mean, this looks like fresh food, right? What should I be worried about here? Yeah, I mean, the irony is, for example, my wife loves kale, and she had the impression that kale is actually good for you. If it's organic, it's very good for you. But most kale and strawberries, for example, grapes, are contaminated with pesticides. And particularly the Environmental Working Group has found what they call the dirty dozen, some of the worst pesticides on these products. So, you know, I want to I look at a strawberry and I think, oh, this is a healthy food. But in most cases, unless it's organic, certified organic, you are getting something

that's actually hurting you. So you say you want to make America you want to help Americans get healthier. It sounds like corruption is at the root of a lot of the problems that we're seeing across this table right here. Exactly how what is your plan? What is the policy? What can be done at a government level to stop this and make people get healthy? As president, I'll issue an executive order on day one that anybody who is recommending food products in USDA or FDA at any of those committees, if you are going to be on those committees, you have to have no conflict of interest. I'm going to bring in people like Kelly Means and Dr. Mark Hyman and people who actually care about health and understand that food is medicine. Food is the way that we're going to heal. We have now, you know, my uncle is president. Six percent of Americans had chronic disease today. Sixty percent to my uncle is president. Four percent of GDP went to health care today. It's almost

it's about 18 percent. And we're spending four point three trillion dollars on chronic disease. No other country in the world has anything like that. We spend five times our military budget on chronic disease. Yeah. And it's making it's made us the sickest population in the world. And if you wonder why we're the sickest people in the world. Why do we have these epidemics of ADHD and depression and all these kind of psychiatric illnesses that have been linked by the science to these kind of foods, to the ingredients of these foods, and why do we have these neurological disorders,

all this epidemic of autoimmune disease, the allergic diseases are directly related to the dyes in the science. So many of these products are geared towards children, which I think is what's really tragic about it. It's sort of like you're putting them at a very early age on this pathway to chronic disease. And then at the end of that is pharma to sort of cure whatever the food did to you. Yeah, I mean, we spend more today. We spend less than one percent of our subsidies of agricultural subsidies go to fruits and vegetables. We we give more subsidies to tobacco today than we do to fruits and vegetables.

Subsidies are all going to the worst players. Exactly. And they're putting, you know, these foods, every one of these foods is contaminated with glyphosate, which causes cancer, which is associated with. Explain what glyphosate is. Glyphosate is an herbicide, so it kills weeds. And it became ubiquitous in 1996 because the industry developed a kind of corn that was resistant to the pesticide.

So now you can spray the entire landscape with a pesticide, and the only thing that will survive, the only thing green that will survive is the corn. Oh, it became, you know, I think 85 or 95 percent of corn grown is grown with glyphosate. But it turns out glyphosate has terrible environmental effects it destroys the soil biomes but it also has these terrible impacts on human health and it's in almost everything we eat it's very very hard to avoid and i want to you know as part of the trial team i want a case in california 11 11 billion dollar case that showed that glyphosate was causing this epidemic of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. That's only one of the many diseases that it causes.

So you clearly you're running for president. You want to address this as one of your primary issues. as one of your primary issues. If you don't become president, are you willing to take on a position like this in the Trump administration as health czar? Well, one way or the other, I'm going to be fighting to get this stuff out of our foods. I mean, we're poisoned. We have a generation of kids

that are swimming around in a toxic soup right now. And we need to, you know, we're betraying them. We're supposed to be taking care of our kids. And we're letting these industries corrupt our agencies and mass poison them. And, you know, nobody in the world has a chronic disease epidemic of the kind that we have in this country. It's true. I think it's a sleeper issue of this election. So I really appreciate you coming on, explaining this, breaking it down and laying out your policies. this country. It's true. I think it's a sleeper issue of this election. So I really appreciate you coming on, explaining this, breaking it down and laying out your policies. Rachel, thanks for having me. And thanks for paying attention to this. I think I know that it's

difficult in your position to go up against powerful industries. I'm glad you're telling the truth. I appreciate that. I've kind of been known for that. All right. Thanks, Robert. Appreciate it. Take care. We'll be back with much more after this. Bet MGM is an official sports betting partner of the National Hockey League and has your back all season long. From puck drop to the final shot,

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So that's the first time you've heard that one, Sean, that interview. In its totality, in its 12-minute long form. I got to tell you, I loved it. And the reason is, it makes me angry. I loved it because it made me angry. And again, what frustrates me is I'm a capitalist, right? I do believe that corporations should strive to innovate and create and bring out new products and make money off those products. But what's frustrating here is, and again,

do I think that corporations are evil or food companies are evil. I think they had innovations that allowed them to keep food preserved longer, make it easier to cook, and they could make more money because food doesn't spoil. Yeah, there's a logical reason to it. But also, as Callie said, Sean, there's a lot of incentives that our government puts in that makes them do things that aren't good for us. So my point though is I get why they want to do that part of it. It's a profit incentive, but also you should then have the government to go, well, hold on a second. This may not be healthy for the people in which you want to sell it to, right? And there should

be competing interests. And what RFK Jr. lays out is actually the interests are the same because the government has been co-opted by big food. And to think that we don't have people that care more about the health of this population. He said that we spend five times our military budget on chronic disease. We're $36 trillion in debt. Why doesn't the Congress start talking about, you know, want to fix the budget, make America healthy. want to you want to turn the tide bring us down bring the debt down make us healthy spend less on health care and you can balance your budget we're on prevention instead of caring you know we went one of the first times we had by the way you did a great job that was a really good interview thank you loved it um you know and it's hard you know you

want to pack as much as you can and it's. You got them for a limited period of time. We had Cali Means on the first time, not this last interview, one of the other times that we had him on. And he said that Governor Abbott was in Texas bragging about how huge the hospital complex in Houston was and that it was so big that when astronauts go up in space, they can actually identify the hospital complex. And this was his big speech on how great Texas is. And Kelly's like, this is a very bad sign. This is actually not something you should brag about. This is actually not something you should brag about. The fact that our hospital complexes are so big that we're getting so sick and that we're allowing to enter into our food source, the way we're genetically modifying food in ways that our body doesn't even recognize it. And of course, it's causing inflammation. And inflammation is the first stage before cancer and all these other chronic diseases. And so all of this is, it's sort of like, we've all kind of sort of known it. I was talking to my sister the other day about a priest that i knew who was a farmer father henry and he told me we were talking

i don't know how we got on the topic this was like 20 some years ago 25 years ago probably um at least 20 years ago and we were talking about cancer and he's like yeah i mean everyone knows there's something wrong because all the farmers, you know, their families are all get cancer. And I'm like, that kind of came back to me recently as I was listening to what, you know, what RFK Jr. was saying. And I just, I can't believe we've allowed this to happen. No, I think you're right. And as I listened to this also, Rachel, I'm like, you know what, I'm a small government conservative, which means I don't need the government to take care of me. I want to make the right choices for my family and you do for our family. Again, we try to make better choices. And again, we're not perfect. I love chips and love,

I love my own processed food, but on balance, we try to eat better. But the problem here is, and by the way, you all listening, you can make your choices as well, make better choices. But the fact that we're subsidizing all of, and he used the word poison, we're poisoning America with this food and that we subsidize it. And then we feed that to the poorest Americans who then we're going to have to subsidize their health care. It makes no sense. And again, what kind of government poisons their own people, subsidizes a poison to put in their body? It's not a government that loves their people. And again, I think if he said, you wrote this down during the interview, he said, if I was president on day one,

I would sign an executive order to get all the conflicts out. So you have conflicts of interest. Yes. Good people in that are going to look at the health of the food that's being offered to the American people and not co-opted by food or pharma. We'll have more of this conversation after this. This episode is brought to you by Mejuri. From November 25th to December 2nd, get 25% off everything on orders over $150 in Mejuri's biggest sale ever. From bold hoops to minimalist stacks, Mejuri has something for everyone. Mejuri makes handcrafted fine jewelry for every day made with responsibly sourced materials. So you can look and feel good about gifting and wearing them.

Shop your wishlist 25% off at Mijeri.com today. So there was a doctor, and this is kind of a famous story that we all talked about, even on Fox News talked about it when it happened, that the Biden administration had appointed, I'm not going to remember her name. You guys can look it up. But it was, she was an African-American doctor. She was appointed to some like, you know, health commission. You know, those one of those commissions that that establishes the food pyramid that somehow came up with the result that Lucky Charms was more healthy than steak and egg.

And it's a ridiculous stuff. But in addition to that, she also said that obesity was genetic and people shouldn't be made to feel bad about it. And instead, what doctors should be doing is accepting that this is just, you don't have the willpower to do this. This is a genetic, you know, baggage that you're carrying. And therefore, of course, obviously, the solution is going to be Ozempic or one of these other, you know, pharmaceutical drugs. And so you're just, we're putting people on this constant cycle of the science project type ultra processed fake foods that make them sick that make them inflamed and then we give them you know pharmaceuticals and drugs at the end and then those by the way those pharmaceuticals sean just don't make you lose weight or whatever or cure you from this

they have all these other side effects and then you need another drug to deal with the side effect of that. And so we're on this, it just doesn't make any sense. And so here's what I love when, when RFK Jr. got together with, um, and, and I heard about this in an interview that RFK did post, um, endorsing Trump. He said that they talked Trump and he talked a couple hours, you know, maybe three or four hours after Donald Trump was almost killed, almost shot in the head and a Trump supporter killed. And for Callie Means, who was on our show, ended up making that connection and said, now's the time you need to call him. And during that conversation, Donald Trump started talking about chronic health,

the chronic health disease problem that we have in America and about our children. And RFK said, I think that in his most vulnerable moment, he realized this is something that he wanted to have as his legacy, that he was going to be willing to work with me to get over all of the conflicts of interest that you see, all of the corruption in government and make curing childhood chronic disease, which is exploding once and for all. And the way to do it is through food policy. So politicians are not always the most trustful people that you might meet. And they might make promises that they don't keep, right? And what you know what Donald Trump is, what he says, he actually does will fight to

deliver on. Whether it was the pro-life justices on the court, moving the embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Yes. Trying to build a wall. The Democrats thwarted him. Making American energy dominant again. So when Donald Trump tells RFK Jr., listen, I'm going to make America healthy again with you. RFK knows that he means it, that he's going to do it, which is why I think this endorsement happened. And he also outed him on the record. He's going to hold him accountable. Oh, yeah.

Because this is the life passion for RFK Jr. Do you know what? I don't want to ask you a question about the interview in a second, but we all know about lead paint. Lead paint will poison kids, right? Which is why I think it was in the 70s. We basically banned lead paint, right? Which is why I think it was in the 70s. We basically banned lead paint, right? But what happens if the paint lobby was as big as the food lobby and they're like,

no, lead paint is safe. Let's keep painting our houses with lead paint because we make more money off of lead paint. You know what? The kids are fine. They make a little poison here, a little poison there. And the government was okay with that. Actually, the government said, you know what? Lead paint is killing kids because they'll grab the paint chip and put it in their mouth and they get poisoned. And they said, you can't use lead paint anymore. You actually have disclosures when you buy a house if you have lead paint in your house. We don't have the same care around food. And it's not just kids putting, you know, paint chips in their mouth. It's putting things every single day in their bodies that poison them. We should have the same effort that we

had on lead paint for our food. I want to have a question for you though. Can I just say really quick on that? I love what he talked about how in Europe, your food stamp works to go to the farmer's market. Oh my gosh. I mean, what an amazing concept. And so I think that also requires more farmers markets. And that also therefore requires us to also go into the ag department and take on the war on small farmers and ranchers. And there is a war on them. We are over. We are regulating them to the point where they can't sustain themselves. We're creating situations. And I think it's intentional, Sean, where big industries are basically crowding out these little guys and gobbling them up. And then on top of that, we have China buying a lot of this land that these poor farmers, you know, who are over leveraged can no longer hold on to. So there's just so much to do in this space. And I have so much hope that if Donald Trump is elected and he brings people in like this to deal with this part of his administration, I feel like something will get done. And by the way, Sean, your colleague, Thomas Massey, has also already tweeted out that he would love to be the Ag Secretary. ag secretary. Now I know Thomas Massey and Donald Trump have not always seen eye to eye and, and Massey famously endorsed, uh, Ron DeSantis, but hopefully Donald Trump can get over that and

bring that peach farmer, that wonderful man, um, Thomas Massey into the agriculture department because nobody knows more than him. But this is what happens. You talked about the small farmers are having a hard time surviving. That's intentional by government. When you have things are decentralized, it's harder to control a decentralized group of whether they're small business owners or they're farmers or they're gas stations. If you can centralize, get consolidation, then government can control only a few big institutions as opposed to thousands, hundreds of thousands of small institutions. And so that's what they're trying to do is get this consolidation where you get these big, massive farms because then the government can control them.

How was RFK? I mean, I've never met him before. Obviously, he comes from a very famous family, a very famous father and uncle. How was he in person? So it's interesting because I've been around Donald Trump, who's also a big figure. Is he? So I would say that, first of all, RFK Jr. is wildly knowledgeable on this subject. And one of the reasons he kind of got into this is he

started off in the environmental world as an environmental lawyer. He knows how to read these scientific research papers that are very in-depth. And the guy is so darn smart. And as soon as you're around him and you're talking about these subjects, you notice how smart he is and you notice how passionate he is about it. And I have just wild respect for that. He is not as charismatic as Donald Trump. Donald Trump walks in and just fills the room. And, you know, Donald Trump is funny and he's very ingratiating. But make no mistake, this guy is a fascinating man.

It doesn't have the same presence as Donald Trump. But who wants to get compared to Donald Trump? That's really a that's really a tough, tough thing to. But when I describe Donald Trump, I know people who met Bill Clinton and said that it was exactly the same thing, that there are certain people that have that. That it factor. That it factor. And a lot of them end up being presidents. RFK Jr. doesn't quite have that presence, but what you do have is a deep respect for somebody who, uh, by the way, has always been a truth teller. I mean, everything that Donald Trump

has experienced, Sean, in terms of cancellation, which I think is a form of social control. It's disgusting the way we use cancel culture and insults and censorship. Everything Donald Trump has been through over the last eight years, RFK Jr. has experienced already because he went up against pharma with the research and the information he's put out about vaccines. I think he's being vindicated on so much of that post-COVID and especially about how compromised and corrupt Big Pharma is. And he's having a moment. But I think for both of them are connecting Donald Trump.

There's a synergy there. And so much of it, I mean, think about the parallels. RFK Sr. and JFK getting assassinated, Bobby Kennedy being a young boy at that time and having experienced that, of course, it would make sense that he would call Donald Trump after that happened. So the Secret Service weaponized in order to in ways that made them less safe and more vulnerable. Right now, RFK Jr. has no Secret Service protection, even though Anthony Fauci does, which is really odd. So they have that. But they also have just sort of what it's like to have big media, big corporations, big, powerful institutions and forces just come down on you and give you millions and millions and millions of dollars of negative press, and they're still standing. That is something to bond over. And I think kudos to Fox because Fox, as RFK Jr. was talking about all the censorship that happened on the other networks, the one network that didn't censor him, that brought him

on was Fox, which I thought it was cool that he came into the studio after your show, you had the food set out, and you did the interview, and he was there, again, taking his time off the campaign trail to go, you know what, I'm going to come in, this is so important, I'm going to take time in New York City to come into the Fox studio

and do the interview with you was wonderful. And he kept saying, Sean, multiple times, he said, I can't believe Fox is going to do this segment. I can't believe this is going to air because I guess the other networks won't talk about this subject because it's so controversial. And and then when I went on, you know, after it aired, a lot of people were online saying, I can't believe Fox News aired this segment. This is remarkable that somebody could speak truthfully about not just the products, but also, you know, these ingredients and things in the pesticides, but also the corruption between government and these corporations, that collusion. So anyway, I'm very proud of the interview. I'm very proud that my network was brave enough to

air that. And I'm really glad that this is getting out there. Make America healthy again, Sean. Well, I didn't see it live. I think I might've been sleeping when that aired. Or taking care of kids. Or taking care of kids. But I noticed that sometimes when I'm at work, the kids are texting me and you're still sleeping, which I always didn't know what's going on.

But I was, it was Saturday or Sunday, you gotta sleep in a little bit. They can fend for themselves. But when I was scrolling through social media, the number of posts that you had on this interview, you were kind of breaking social media with RFK in the interview. So broke the internet with RFK and Make America Big Again. Job well done. And again, watch out food and pharma. If Trump wins, we're going to change course. There's going to be some changes. And for the health of America, which will,

again, be part of not just making us healthy, but making us great again. Good interview, Rachel. Thank you all for being with us. Full interview of RFK. Again, if you like our podcast, tell your friends and your family members and neighbors to check out the kitchen table.

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