From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Moms Behaving Badly: Why Lauren Boebert's Scandal Matters

Episode Date: September 22, 2023

With Congresswoman Lauren Boebert (R-CO) making major headlines for shocking behavior at a musical performance of Beetlejuice, Sean and Rachel share their own thoughts on the scandal. They weigh in o...n the immediate backlash Rep. Boebert received and how her behavior sparked a larger conversation about modern-American social and dating culture. Plus, they share some creative criticism of Senator John Fetterman (D-PA).  Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RachelCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Sean, we're back at the kitchen table and it's a tough topic we're going to talk about because we're talking about the degeneration and the pornification of our culture and how it's being reflected back into our politics in some pretty shocking ways. So Colorado Representative Lauren Bobart has been making headlines since her first footsteps on Capitol Hill. But actually, it's her latest over-the-top act that truly exemplifies how so many politicians today reflect that degenerate, classless, foreign-held culture.
Starting point is 00:00:55 So, Bobart, who, by the way, is in the middle of a divorce from her husband, was caught in a leaked video being groped and fondled by her new boyfriend. By the way, I think most of us saw that video. Yeah, a lot of people saw it. And, of course, it's happened in a Denver theater. She was famously watching Beetlejuice the musical. Who knew that that was a musical? And someone got so excited over Beetlejuice singing.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Beetlejuice the musical. Is that about the former mayor of Chicago, Lori Lightfoot? I don't know. I wouldn't say that. But what's interesting is the media is showing as much outrage for the fact that she's, they're less interested in the fact that she's being groped by her boyfriend, though they're definitely ripping on her for that. They're also equally outraged that she's vaping and using flash photography as if these were equal offenses.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Now, eventually, Beaubard gets kicked out of the theater over her actions. And then... She seemed a little intoxicated when she was kicked out. Yeah, she looked like she was kind of stumbling in her, you know, very, you know, revealing dress. Then Beaubard's husband, she hasn't yet divorced from her husband. So I guess it's her estranged husband goes public and blames himself for the incident because he had cheated on her, which was the cause of the divorce. And so he takes full responsibility. Then she comes back and says, yeah, I'm you know, it was the divorce. And we're going to talk. She actually has an interview we're going to go to from TMZ later on that I think is sort of political art.
Starting point is 00:02:35 So we're going to go look at that just a little bit. Yeah. But let's remember, all of this is playing out in public to the horror of her children and her constituents. The days of serving in public office where you actually looked up to your, you know, congressman, congresswoman. I think those days are long over. But I think the worst sign of what's happening and this makes Bobart stuff seem like child's play. The worst sign of the Pornhub times that we're living in is Democrat Susanna Gibson. Now, she is running for Virginia State House. She was just out as having performed sex acts online for money, telling her Pornhub viewers or her porn viewers or she's not actually on Pornhub, but some other like even worse site than Pornhub.
Starting point is 00:03:26 What's the site where you get money for OnlyFans? No, it's not. It's like OnlyFans, but cheaper. Yes. But cheaper, right? It's like a cheaper version of OnlyFans. Yes. On this site,
Starting point is 00:03:37 she tells her viewers that she likes being choked. She tells them that they can watch her urinate on her husband because her husband... Chatterbait is the site. Yeah, Chatterbait. Now, her husband is also part of this couples project that they're working on. It's a money-making scheme. It's a money-making scheme. It's a business. It's a home business. It's a side hustle. A side hustle for them. Who knew you could work from home? Yep. She's working from home and she tells her viewers, you can actually urinate on my husband for all urinate on my husband for money for tips.
Starting point is 00:04:14 How much money will you pay me to do this? Again, this is a married mother of two. And believe it or not, Sean, she taped some of this after she launched her campaign. So this is not like something she did in her early 20s and regrets. This is something she did, you know, after she launched her campaign, she's got two kids. But just to be clear, so she's not recording herself for later playback. I think this is live. It's supposed to not be recorded. And so if you're there to see it, you see it. If you don't, you can't go back and replay it.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Someone, probably a Republican, saw this video, saw she was running for the House of Delegates and recorded it and leaked it out. Yeah, but before that, so I think it was the Washington Post actually found out, you know, got wind of the story and gave her a heads up. So she was able to take down a bunch of images. So they were helping her. Meanwhile, they're absolutely pounding Bobart, right? Like Bobart is like, you know, the, you know, woman that they're going after. And this woman, they're basically giving her a pass, you know, woman that they're going after. And this woman, they're basically giving her a pass,
Starting point is 00:05:28 actually helping her by giving her time to erase some of the images. Now, here's the deal. While there is no comparison between the actions between these two moms, and I want to make that very clear, there is no comparison between Lauren Beaubard being felt up in a theater and vaping and taking flash photography. And this woman who's doing, that was a Fox news alert. That's the Fox news alert. Um, I'm, I'm muting my phone right now. There's no comparison. I still think that, um, both sides of the aisle, Republicans, conservatives need to be outraged, um, at what has become of our society, that our officials are being held to the lowest
Starting point is 00:06:07 standards possible. Now, I believe that the behavior of both of these women should be a wake-up call. First of all, imagine the humiliation for their children. These images are going to be there forever. And in another example of sliding standards, Sean, there's Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman. This is a man who wears short hoodies to hearings. Shorts, hoodies to hearings on the floor of the Senate. Just the decorum of these bodies is real, right? And there's respect for the body, which I'm going to get into some of the things that I've done as well when we talk about this. You're not as bad as Fetterman, but you've had your incidents. I have a little more class, and I'm more restrained when I break the rules than John Fetterman.
Starting point is 00:06:52 We're going to talk about how Sean broke the rules in just a little bit. But, yeah, so he's actually – so here's Fetterman, who's, you know, not exactly high standards himself. who's, you know, not exactly high standards himself. He decides to weigh in on the Bobart affair, not the Virginia Democrat affair, but he weighs in on the Bobart tapes, videos, and says basically, he puts out a tweet that says, I figure if I take a vaping and grabbing the hog during a live musical, they'll make me a folk hero,
Starting point is 00:07:20 meaning the Republicans, Fox News, et cetera. Grabbing the hog, though, do you know what that means? I don't know what that means. It must be Republicans, Fox News, etc. Grabbing the hog, though. Do you know what that means? I don't know what that means. It must be some, I don't know. It could be a pretty bad reference. Yeah. Who knows what that means?
Starting point is 00:07:32 I have not heard it before, but I am imagining what he means by that. So he's, of course, responding to the Senate. There's been some controversy because the Senate has relaxed the rules on dress code for him specifically. So now he's saying, you guys are criticizing me. Look at Lauren Boebert being felt up in the, in the, in the theater. Here's the bottom line, Sean, we are normalizing porn. The average age, by the way, for a young boy or girl to watch pornography is like 10 or 11 years old. boy or girl to watch pornography is like 10 or 11 years old. We're sexualizing children. We're allowing our whole nation to descend into basically a nation of slobs. I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:16 if you've been to the airport lately, just look around, just do 10 minutes of people watching in any public space. There's just no sense of decorum and standards anymore. So why are we surprised that, you know, our public officials are acting like slobs or like sluts? So let's get into it. Let's start with, with Bobart and Gibson, right? So, and the first thing I want to talk about is again, the attention and the media criticism for both. And that's not the story that you're, you're pointing out here because it is about the degradation of our leaders and the sexualization of our culture, the lack of morals, the lack of faith that exists today that we probably had 30, 40 years ago. But the media, which I saw this firsthand in Congress, they pound Republicans and they defend Democrats all the time. And so when Democrats actually get tough questions in
Starting point is 00:09:05 an interview, they're kind of shocked. They don't know how to handle it. Yeah. Where Republicans become accustomed to the tough question, the hard question. They learn skills to deal with a very aggressive press where Democrats don't. And you see here again, you mentioned these two these two acts are very, very different. Again, Lauren Bobart... You have to be fair. Again... I don't like it. We're going to talk about the impact on the kids. We can, but Lauren Bobart held herself out as a mom and a gun owner and, you know, a person of...
Starting point is 00:09:37 A conservative... Faith and values. Yeah. And I guess the video that we saw didn't match the public image that she projected. Now, I don't know what's going on in her life. Obviously, she's going through a divorce. Her husband says he was cheating on her. Obviously, it has to be an incredibly stressful time and painful time for her.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But when you're in the public eye, even when the lights are down, the cameras must be rolling on us all the time because footage comes out where she's getting groped in the theater. What is it? CTTV, whatever. It's like the security cameras that caught it. So it wasn't even like, the video does not look like it's even like somebody in the theater recording her. It looks like it's just, you know, security cam footage. So she had to fly into DC this week because Congress is in session. There's a lot of big things going on. And TMZ finds her coming out of the airport. And she actually engages in this interview, which I think is a little bit of political.
Starting point is 00:10:40 This is high art. Like the way she handles this, I have to give her credit. Can I first say, so I forget the guy's name from TMZ, but he's on the Hill all the time. One of the nicest reporters you'll come across, and he works with TMZ, but she usually says, TMZ's asking me questions. I don't want to talk to him. Yeah. But he's actually very nice, very pleasant. Yeah. He's very disarming. He's so pleasant. And they have actually a brilliant interaction. Politically speaking. Politically, right. Thank you. Politically speaking. Right. Thank you. Politically speaking.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Lauren Bobart handles this very well. Let's listen to the video. See how Lauren Bobart responds to the questions about the incident at Beetlejuice in Denver. All right. Here it is. I know it's been a rough week. What has it been? You know, it's always hard whenever there's gravity put on the voters. I'm here to provide levity and lift burdens off of people so anytime that they're carrying
Starting point is 00:11:33 mine it's something that I kind of feel deep inside. But ultimately all future date nights have been cancelled and I learned to check party affiliations before you go on a date. But all in all, it was mostly a lovely time, and I've taken responsibility for my actions. I'd love to know how the musical ended, and I encourage people to go and see it. But yeah, it was a great time back in the district seeing voters.
Starting point is 00:12:09 So how are the voters taking it? How are the voters taking it right now? Are they understanding at this moment? Yeah, there's a lot of folks who are certainly understanding. And they understand that it was a part of my personal life, my private time, something that I rarely indulge in. And yeah. And when you say affiliation, as far as knowing not to date the opposite side. Well, TMZ, I'm pretty sure you told the world I went on a date with a Democrat. So when it comes like that, when those times when you're... No, he's a wonderful man and it was a great time to go out and have dinner, enjoy part of the show and now it's back to work.
Starting point is 00:12:47 We're here in DC. Okay. And focusing on taking care of my people. So is that date life, is that over with him because of, some people say because he had a drag bar or his, his part to death or anything? Yeah, no, nothing to do with anything anybody reported but honestly he's a private citizen and you know we peacefully parted at this time. Great man, great friend, and I wish him all the best.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Okay, so what's next for you? What's next for me? We've got a spending battle. We've got all sorts of stuff going on. We've got impeachment underway. I don't know how long we're going to be here. One week? Three weeks?
Starting point is 00:13:21 Four weeks? I don't know. So I've told my boys to, you know, wait, wait for mom. And maybe if it's too long, I'll bring them out here and we'll enjoy D.C. together. All right. Back to business. That's right. Thank you so much. Wait right there. We're going to have more of that conversation next. Fox News Radio on demand on the Fox News app. Download the app and just click listen. When you swipe left, you can listen to your favorite Fox News talk shows live. Swipe right for the latest Fox News Radio newscasts on demand. Fox
Starting point is 00:13:48 News Radio and the Fox News app. Download it today. Let's just quick unpack this for a second because first off, she makes light of the situation talking about the gravity on the backs of voters right now. And she's here to bring some levity to the voters. Right. She's saying, I'm here to solve your problems. And now you're having to deal with my my messy personal life as you know because it's now in the public well i thought levity was she's bringing some humor to oh you got that from it no yeah that's true which she did bring some humor to politics uh that's true but also uh she's making reference to this date being with a democrat she says i probably should have checked party affiliation you guys all have have, and I'm dating a Democrat future. Check the party affiliation
Starting point is 00:14:28 on the Democrats or Republicans. Well, listen, from a dating perspective, I have to agree with that. Watch prior podcasts. Yeah. Parties. Date within your party, yeah. She takes responsibility, right? I take responsibility for what I've done. That was a quick responsibility, but she has, in a lengthier post on Facebook, taken responsibility for her actions. She's kind of funny. It says, it's curious how the musical ended. Here's the one thing. Right, she didn't get to see the end. She was pulled out of the theater. Here's the one thing that she slides by, but this cannot be true. She says the voters, they understand it's her personal life. And listen, voters are forgiving. Americans are
Starting point is 00:15:05 forgiving when you ask for forgiveness. But I can't imagine that when she saw voters, if she did see voters after this incident, that she wasn't getting a major blowback. What do you think the reaction was? Listen, I think they're going to express their disappointment. Who really is she? You've talked about one set of values on the campaign trail, but you're exhibiting a different set of values on another. And she'll have to explain that. And when she does, they'll decide whether it's honest and truthful and whether she needs to ask for more forgiveness or they accept her apology and they move on. But what about the reaction? Because she's now coming to D.C.
Starting point is 00:15:46 So what's the reaction that she gets? I mean, to me, it would be so embarrassing to have to go back and see all my colleagues on. It's embarrassing with the constituents. And that's the most important. But there's also got to be like coming back to Capitol Hill and seeing all the other Republicans, many of whom, by the way, on our own side, don't like her. So there's a lot of scandals or stories that happen. People make it into the news. We don't always talk about them. You don't always hear them.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But members of Congress hear the stories that are being reported about other members of Congress. And it can be embarrassing to go back onto the House floor when you have everyone knowing these negative stories that are being told about you. And obviously it becomes very personal because the story is about you. And I always found that, you know, there can be a shunning, you know, a removal. No one wants to talk to you about what happened. And I think the best advice is, and I've done this before with an individual who sent a graphic picture of themselves to someone they were dating. And it got leaked. And it got leaked. And really uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:16:53 But I was like, how are you doing? Which prompted him, I've had better weeks. It's like, yes, you have had better weeks. So you're saying just get it out. Acknowledge what's happening with people. Don't shun them. And it gives them a chance for a quick explanation, maybe a quick laugh and then be able to move on. I thought what she did, too, was to try to refocus away from what happened in that theater and focus on the fight that her voters actually do care about, which is spending and a potential impeachment of Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Bring it back to the work that they sent you to Washington to do, which at the end of that interview, she did bring up. Yeah. So this was, I watched this. To me, this was a masterclass on how to handle that incident. So I think politically speaking, she handled it beautifully with grace, with humor, with grace, with humor, with, you know, sort of enough levity to sort of brush it aside.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And as you said, move on. This was a masterclass, politically speaking. But she didn't run away from the camera. No, she didn't. She didn't. She engaged. And this was a good person to engage with
Starting point is 00:18:01 because he was, you know, a likable, nice guy who very disarming. That said, that's the political art. The other thing is she's a mom. This is humiliating for her family. This is humiliating for her children. This is because she's a public figure. It has an impact on the culture. And also she's a bit of a pop culture figure herself. You know, she's not some obscure member of Congress that we have to look up when I, where they're from. Everyone knows who she is. She's that gun toting woman.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Um, she's so attractive. I mean, look at her. I don't look that good coming out of the airport. She's attractive. She's, you know, got a strong voice in the party. And so that she does this does have an impact or reflection on our culture. I look at the other woman, Susanna Gibson from Virginia. I mean, these are humiliations for their children. Sean, just think about when I drive the kids to school. When I'm driving the kids to school, I'll sometimes put on my music. You know, it'll be 80s music. Or country. Or country.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And if the music's a little loud and I open the door alone doing these things as a mom and they're in public. And by the way, and we're going to talk about this at another episode because it's somewhat related. Again, I don't want to I don't want to overstate what Lauren Boebert did. I mean, she got felt up in theater. It's, you know, happens to a lot of 16 year old girls. You know, It happens. But she is a grown mom. And we're seeing a rise in moms on OnlyFans. You see this Virginia Democrat who's performing sex acts with her husband online and lives in a suburban neighborhood and, you know, runs for office even after she does this. There is a normalization of pornography and of pornographic behavior in our culture.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And kids are suffering. We're now, if you're online and Reddit and, you know, sort of these social media sites where kids or young kids gather and talk, You're starting to hear kids who are becoming depressed, suicidal, some even committing suicide because they're being humiliated and teased by their friends because their moms are on OnlyFans. What is going on here? So again, as I look at Lauren Boebart in the theater, yes, she's being felt up. Can someone see that happening possibly in the theater?
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yes. It's dark in there, though. And she's vaping. OK. But she didn't do this intentionally for public display. She's in a public place, but she wasn't trying to project this out into the universe and actually make money off it. Are you a Bo Bobart apologist? No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:21:06 But I am. I think it's really important. Gibson, again, you have the hubris that you're going to actually run for office all the while engaging, taking your clothes off, engaging in sex acts with your husband in front of a camera. That's a great sex act. In front of a camera, put it out on the internet and ask people to pay you. There is no comparison in these two situations. And you would
Starting point is 00:21:35 think by the way the press has treated the scenarios, Lauren Boebert is a devil. I'm not going to use other words that they would call her. And they've come to the defense of Susan Gibson. Democrats. Oh, yeah. People giving money. This is down on their support for her, Sean. It's the death of shame in America. Again, when certain things happen, it was shameful.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It's embarrassing. There's no more of that. You would think in an instant when these tapes came out, Susan Gibson would have been out of the race. But oh no, she's not leaving. And Democrats, you would think, you know, we've kind of lost our way with the Christian right. We've lost our way with the working men and women who put boots on that still want to raise families and still go to church. Maybe if we don't support Susan Gibson, that could give us some more credibility with those voters. The problem they have, though, is the liberal elites who have lost all value, all morality. They don't want to see them.
Starting point is 00:22:34 They're like, what's the problem? They're like, what's the problem? This is the culture that we do want to live in. We're the culture that says, it's great that Susan Gibson, an adult 50-year-old woman with two kids, is doing this. That's not enough. We want actually kids to explore these ideas themselves in books in elementary school. That's where their party's at. But again, they're going to come after Lauren Boebart.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Give me a break. So I'm not an apologist, but I do mean the way the stories are handled is outrageous. But to your point, Rachel, something's happening in our culture where we have leaders, whether it's the two we're talking about right now. But even Hunter Biden's not in office. He's not. He's not. He's he's he's not an elected public figure. But his father is.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And to have a father that will come out and defend Hunter Biden and what he's done with prostitutes and drugs, really bad life choices. They're all on. They're all for all of us to see on his laptop. That, by the way, also dating your dead brother's wife. All of these things outrageous. And Joe Biden defends it. And what it does is it sends certain messages. Our kids get bad messages on social media all the time. They can find bad messages and social media all the time. They can find bad
Starting point is 00:23:45 messages and bad content on the internet. But when you have your leaders actually exhibiting bad behavior or supporting bad people, even if it's their son, that I think reinforces what these kids see online. And so instead of inspiring them to be better, to do better, to have higher value, these politicians, these leaders are going into the gutter where the kids are already at. So what are we teaching them? Yeah. Now, listen, there's some people. So, so I, when you were talking, I was thinking about Nancy Mace at the, at the prayer breakfast where she gets invited to a prayer breakfast for Tim Scott. And she gets up to say, listen, I almost was late because I was in bed with my fiance. And he wanted me to stay in bed and kind of get it on.
Starting point is 00:24:31 She kind of didn't quite say it like that, but it wasn't much different than that. And he said, come on, honey, come back to bed. And I said, honey, I got to go to a prayer breakfast. And like she thought that was a totally normal thing to say at a prayer breakfast. And I'm like, what universe is she living in? Except have you ever been to a prayer breakfast? Maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when you're you're new to a prayer breakfast.
Starting point is 00:24:52 But let's be honest. We have we have Donald Trump and he has Tris with with, you know, porn stars and paying that off. Now, you can say that all happened before. Right. He was president. It isn't like it all happened before. But there is sort of. But I will say that, again, I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Donald Trump has a storied past for sure. Yeah. But also he tried to elevate to the presidency. Yeah. Right. Democrats might disagree with that, but. They kind of want to remind him of everything he did in the past. Right. Democrats might disagree with that, but they kind of want to remind him of everything he did in the past.
Starting point is 00:25:30 But he tried to present elegance in the White House with his wife, with his family. That's true. Himself. He didn't get the respect from the media, but he tried to rise to the occasion. He did. Yeah, he did. And he wasn't doing like, you know, interns in the, you know, in the Oval Office and stuff that Bill Clinton was doing. interns in the, you know, in the Oval Office and stuff that Bill Clinton was doing. And really, you know, if you go back to that, that's sort of like the moment where everything fell apart, in my view. I mean, with her, it always been politicians doing naughty things. And that's just kind of because we're all we're all sinful people. But the sort of normalization of it, the sort of public display of it has been, I think, really damaging to the culture to the point where now we have suburban moms who are in office or running for office, aspiring for office, who are now engaged in this kind of behavior. And I think that
Starting point is 00:26:17 this is something that we have to decide as a culture. I don't know, Sean, if the genie's out of the bottle and we can't put this back in. Can we reel back this culture? Is it too late? Has the culture become so pornified? I mean, I love what they're doing in France, for example, where they're requiring people who want to view pornography to register so that they know they're an adult. Utah might be doing that as well. Yeah, there's a few states that are doing it. And so Pornhub has said, we won't allow, we won't even be in those states that require verification that you're 18 and older. And it's so profitable for them to have underage, you know, new customers that are going to become
Starting point is 00:27:07 lifelong addicts of porn that they have, they can basically give up on those states and say, fine, we won't even be in that state just to, just to, you know, make a statement. And they go to these other states where they know that there's no verification that young children are getting their minds polluted by this. And that the ultimate thing that's happening is the entire culture is being infected by this. And I think, again, I don't want to overstate what happened with Bobart. I think it's gross and I feel bad for her children. I feel bad for her constituents. But I will say that, you know, what we're seeing in Virginia is next level stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And I think it's going to become more common. And it's, and it's the defense of that behavior by other people who probably leave different lifestyles would make different choices, but defending, uh, her sexual escapades online with her husband, that, that to me was shocking. But again, it's specifically shows how far the Democrat party has fallen. Can we talk a minute about what happened? Because we teased that you had broken the decorum rules that are now. So let's break down what's happened with Fetterman. So John Fetterman, the new senator from Pennsylvania, when he was running for, obviously he had a stroke during the campaign. And he has a long history, even when he was mayor, of wearing hoodies and shorts. And it's one thing if you're a mayor wearing a hoodie and shorts, and then he was on the campaign trail wearing
Starting point is 00:28:31 hoodies and shorts. He put a suit on, I think, for the debate with Dr. Oz. But now he's going to the Senate, and there is a dress code that the House and the Senate both have, and that is that you wear a suit and tie if you're a man. And the dress code used to be and the Senate both have, and that is that you wear a suit and tie if you're a man. And the dress code used to be for women that they had to wear a dress. Now, that was changed, and so women can now wear pants. Pantsuits. And an appropriate top. Now, I'll admit, some of those rules are sometimes broken. I'm going to get into that in a second, my own scandalous reprimand that took place in the House by a couple of speakers, actually. But John Fetterman, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:29:11 in the U.S. Senate, the greatest deliberative body in the world, or what used to be the greatest deliberative body, that you're going to wear a hoodie and shorts to a hearing, to a press conference, and on the Senate floor, I think that undermines the whole institution, every member that serves in it, and it undermines that institution in the eyes of every foreign diplomat, leader, president, as they look upon this country. And if they look at what's happening in America, the slow slide that's happened here, this is just another example of America has lost its way. America is not what it was 30 years ago, 20 years ago. It's something very different. And John Fetterman encompasses that wearing hoodies in
Starting point is 00:29:56 the Senate. He looks like a teenage boy that woke up on a Saturday morning and put on a pair of baggy basketball shorts. If my son tried to wear that to church, I'd be like, get back in the house, get changed. There's no question about that. And he's going, you know, as you said, to represent his state in the U.S. Senate, which should be a place of esteem. Now, Sean, when you were in Congress, there was a congresswoman, I believe out of Texas,
Starting point is 00:30:21 who liked to wear like these fancy... Frederica Wilson. She liked to wear these fancy fancy like kind of cowboy hats. And she would coordinate her hats with her outfits. And it was always very flamboyant. But you're not allowed to wear a hat in the house chamber, right? No, you can't. You can't wear top gear.
Starting point is 00:30:41 So the speaker of the house at that time was Paul Ryan and and people were wanting to crack down. Paul Ryan and others were trying to crack down to kind of bring things back to standards. And so they went to her and they said, hey, listen, you cannot wear this hat anymore because you're not allowed to wear a hat and you're breaking the dress code. And the defense for Frederica Wilson was, oh, yeah? Well, what about Sean Duffy? No, no, no, no. She didn't say that. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:31:13 But I will say this. So I don't wear basketball shorts and hoodies, but I love my jeans. I was a lumberjack sportsman from Wisconsin. He lives in jeans. I live in my jeans. So on many occasions, I would have my jeans on. I'd put on a shirt with a tie and a jacket, and I'd go to the floor. Now, if I did that, I didn't have a suit on, I would stay in the back of the chamber, or I'd be in the cloakroom. There's a Republican cloakroom and a Democrat cloakroom. It's just a
Starting point is 00:31:41 room off the back of the House chamber. I would stay in there, in my jeans, and I'd quick pop out and vote and then pop back in the cloakroom. I would never walk around the House floor in my jeans. I would never go to a hearing. I was on financial services. Never went to a hearing but for in a suit. If I'm going to speak on the House floor, I'll be in a suit. If I'm going to go to a press conference, I'm going to be in a suit, unless I was back in Wisconsin and we're on the campaign trail. John Fetterman is wearing a hoodie and shorts to hearings and on the Senate floor doing press. So there's a different standard. By the way, Paul Ryan and John Boehner, they gave remarks from the dais about how we had to
Starting point is 00:32:22 improve our dress code. And then they referenced, and you know who we're talking about, who we're talking to. Is that you? They didn't name names, but there's a couple of things. Well, I heard the voicemail that Paul left you. Do you remember? Yes. Paul left you a voicemail and we kind of chuckled, but then you were like, you know what? He's right. Well, Paul Ryan, we're both from Wisconsin. And his point was, listen, if I can't get my
Starting point is 00:32:43 own guys from Wisconsin to follow the dress code, how am I going to get anyone else to follow the dress code? So step it up. You make my job hard, which I appreciate. I think he was absolutely right on this. I mean, we laughed because he's a friend of yours. And this was like a stern, like he was dressing you down. A little bit. Yeah, he was dressing you down.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And so we thought it was kind of funny because you were dressed down. He dressed you down. So can I give one other example? So one, I did not work out a lot in the house. I should have worked out more. It's a regret that I have. It's a big regret Rachel has as well. But I was working out and sometimes they can call votes very quickly. So I was in the gym working out, they call votes and I didn't have time to put anything else on, and I didn't have time to put anything else on, but I had my gym attire.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So I ran out of the gym and I went to the house floor in a pair of shorts. Again, I stayed in the back. I quickly voted. But again, that was shocking that someone would go to the house floor to cast their vote and then quickly leave because no one does that, right? And I was caught in a tough spot and I didn't want to miss the vote.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And so I did it. It was a one-time ordeal. And by the way, I always made sure that that never happened to me again. Right. Happened to you once and never, never again. I think. Listen, I think standards should be met. I think that the entire country needs to raise its standards. And listen, I give forgiveness for people when they were young and we all make mistakes. And I do love how you always bring up how forgiving the American people are. And they certainly are. You know, you and I certainly have from our own, you know, real world days, things that
Starting point is 00:34:16 we regret doing. And we're on tape because of the nature of the show and the age of the participants and the age of the participants. But there is something. When you're a parent, when you're a mother in particular, and I don't care if people think that this is sexist of me to say. When you're a mom and you know everything you do is embarrassing to your kids anyway, flip and step it up, man. Be respectable. Be respectable.
Starting point is 00:34:50 No, you should not be an OnlyFans mom and think you can be a chaperone on the school trip. I mean, I know there's big debates online about that. No, you don't show judgment. That is such a lack of judgment. You should not be the chaperone on the trip. And you should not humiliate your children like that. And Lauren Bobart should not be being felt up in the theater, you know, at this age with two kids. And I get that she's going through a divorce and it can be hard and all that. But you're a member of Congress as well as a mom. And this other woman
Starting point is 00:35:15 off the charts, like literally, if we don't put our foot down with Susanna Gibson and say enough, I hope she loses roundly. We will see what happens in her district. But this is there's something going on in the culture that is so deep, so gross that if we don't address this, I think we're going to be permanently lost. Wait right there. We'll have more of this conversation next. So listen, we're all humans and parents are humans as well and parents make mistakes happens all the time um which is why in the catholic faith we have confession yes um and because we're all sinners and we don't always live up to the standards that we set yeah right um but on a continual basis you want to try to do things that are going to make your children proud
Starting point is 00:36:04 right and again they'll always be embarrassed of you they'll always find some stupid thing to go annual basis, you want to try to do things that are going to make your children proud, right? And again, they'll always be embarrassed of you. They'll always find some stupid thing to go like, don't do that. Stop doing that. Don't talk to me right now because, you know, I don't want my friends to see that I actually have a mom. So I don't hug me in front of everybody. But in the end, you want them to be proud of you and the way you engage in public. And again, everyone can do things that are embarrassing. But this is kind of beyond the pale. It's next level.
Starting point is 00:36:29 But I think worse than that, the fact that it's next level, especially with Susanna Gibson, I just, I'm so repulsed by that woman. I can't even say enough about it. But what we should not do as a country and as a nation, as a population, is normalize it. And that's my concern,
Starting point is 00:36:44 is that we are normalizing this behavior. So even though Lauren Boebart gave a masterclass answer to TMZ, what's going to happen is that becomes a new normal. And that's my concern about it. She asked for forgiveness. She did.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And I give her that grace. She had to deal with her own family, her own kids back at home. Really hard situation. And we'll see how the voters respond I give her that grace. She has to deal with her own family, her own kids back at home. Really hard situation. And we'll see how the voters respond to her. But the voters have a choice with Susan Gibson. And they have a choice.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Are they going to send her to be a representative in the House of Delegates in Virginia? I hope not. Because the intentional degradation of that body would be real if they elect someone who denigrated her own body and her own family. What she did was to her, not just to herself, she did this to her children. Her children will have to live with that forever. Her children will have to live with that forever. It's so beyond the pale egregious that we just we simply cannot normalize it. And I hope I hope she loses. And by the way, if those people in that district, Sean, they won't they can never count on that woman to defend their children from the sexualization and in school from the degradation of the society, because she's part of it. That's right. She's part of it. And by the way, all the Democrats that are supporting her, shame on them, and they too should be held to account.
Starting point is 00:38:11 So listen, good conversation. By the way, that would include Eric Holder. That would include Tim Kaine. The list is long of Democrats that are supporting this. That's right. Well, a great conversation at the kitchen table. Kind of a downer of our- It is a little bit, but sometimes we just got to talk about this stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:27 It's not easy, but it's what's happening in our culture. And so we chat about culture at the kitchen table. At the kitchen table. All right, listen, if you like our podcast, please rate, review, subscribe. Wherever you get your podcasts, you can always find us at foxnewspodcast.com. Please subscribe. You get a notice every time a podcast drops. Every Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.
Starting point is 00:38:46 You can get the kitchen table again later on. About a month away. We're going five days a week. So we can't wait for that. And until next time. Why everybody? I was just going to say that now that you're out of Congress, you can wear jeans all the time on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I'm not going to I'm not going to call and reprimand you for that. I appreciate that because I don't wear a suit at my own kitchen table. And I won't. With that, thank you everybody. Have a good one. Bye-bye.
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