From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - New Stats Confirm Job Growth Is Due to Non-Citizens. How Will Vice President Harris Debate That?

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

Today, Sean puts on his business hat as he breaks down how the August jobs report shows that net job gains since the pandemic have gone to immigrants while native-born Americans have lost over 2 million jobs. With statistics like this continuing to worry American families struggling to make ends meet, how will Vice President Kamala Harris defend the Biden Administration's actions in next week's presidential debate? And after the last debate in June drastically impacted the campaign trail (and caused Democrats to say goodbye to President Biden), what kind of waves could the one on September 10th cause? Sean and Rachel weigh in on this and more — including their predictions on how the presidential candidates will do facing off for the first time. Follow Sean & Rachel on X: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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so you can look and feel good about gifting and wearing them. Shop your wishlist 25% off at Mijeri.com today. Hey, everybody. Welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Sean, it's great to be back, but I'm telling you, you're on your way to work and I am cooking in the kitchen right now, which is why you're hearing that sizzling in the background. I don't know if you can. We've both been so busy all day. That's the only way we can get the podcast in today. I know. And it's like, actually, you're like, I'm cooking. And the kids are about to come home.

I'm like, that's great. It'll be very real. We're at the kitchen table. Let's do this thing. It might get loud. It might get a little wild. So listen, our podcast is not an economics podcast, right? It's not.

We love culture and politics. So I want to talk, Rachel, just about what's happened today with some economic news, but this is not an economic story, okay? But I'm giving forewarning here. So the jobs numbers came out today for August, and there was 142,000 jobs created, all right? The estimate or consensus of those who kind of project what the numbers should be, they thought it'd be 161,000. So the number was 20,000 less jobs than what was anticipated. And again, they revised the last two months, June and July. But here's just a couple other little points, Rachel, that I want to talk about, because it's talking about something that's broader happening in the economy. So what did

well and what didn't do well in this last month? So construction gained 34,000 jobs, 34,000 jobs. Healthcare gained 31,000 jobs. There was a loss, though, in manufacturing of 24,000 jobs. But manufacturing is losing jobs. Healthcare is gaining. Construction is gaining. Over the last year and a half, manufacturing has lost 130,000 jobs. Okay?

But something else has happened, Rachel. We talked about this before we started, which is who's actually, when we're growing the economy and people are getting jobs, who's getting the jobs, right? Right. Right. So if you look since the pandemic, all the job growth that's happened in this country

since the pandemic has been from migrants, immigrants, whether legal or illegal, all of it. Actually, U.S. citizens have lost 2 million jobs since just before the pandemic. Wow. So jobs are being created. True. But the American born citizen is not getting those jobs. They're actually they have less jobs than before the pandemic. It's the migrant who has the jobs. And again, they don't distinguish between legal or illegal. And it's you know, why they don't do that in that. That's actually an interesting number as well, but go ahead. So here's what I find on our show, on the bottom line, we'll cover these stories where you'll hear liberals and liberal economists talk about the economic impact of Donald Trump

deporting illegals that came into the country or shutting down the border, the economic consequence of that. And I would slam them and berate them when they say that. But if this is the case, you might go, well, oh, yeah, that's because all the jobs are going to illegals. And if you don't have illegals or migrants here to work, well, who's going to fill the job? And I think it begs a different question. If you look at what's happening, you're able to pay maybe someone less who's come into the country as opposed to an American born

citizen, right? These companies are not willing to pay a rate that an American is willing to do the job for. And so it's a way, you always talk about this, it's a way for corporate America and rich ladies in big cities to get cheap labor. Right. Well, it's such a great point because everyone knows. And by the way, farm workers in the 60s understood this. Mexican-American farm workers knew that people coming from across the border illegally was going to drive down the wages of Mexican-Americans who were firmly part, always have been firmly part of the working class. And so back in the day when Cesar Chavez was, you know, fighting on behalf of, you know, farm, Mexican American farm workers, they actually were

the ones calling for border security. So, and the working class know it, not just in the 60s, but right now, Black Americans, Hispanic Americans, anybody, and white Americans, anybody who's a blue collar workerar worker in particular knows that. I'm curious, Sean, does this include white-collar jobs or is this just blue-collar jobs? This is all jobs, right? So they're not broken down on income level or on white-collar, blue-collar. But I would venture a guess that these are probably more blue-collar jobs going to the migrant as opposed to the doctor and the chemist. But you have seen, Sean Ferret, in sort of like the big tech world, the tech world, a call for more HB1s.

What do they call HB1C workers, like, you know, allowing for more visas. I'm sorry. You're right, but there's a small percent that come in on those visas. That's, so yeah, these are big numbers. So I don't think that's moving the scale. And listen, that's one thing. If you're bringing the smartest minds around the world into this country, as opposed to the Venezuelan gangs in Colorado, you'd be like, okay, this could be a really smart play. I want more Elon Musk's to come from South Africa and set up shop in America. That's the kind of person that you want coming in.

But here's what it does, too. It underscores the politics today. I'm going to come to the politics and say, you mentioned Cesar Chavez. Unions also, all the unions understood, the labor unions understood that if you bring in a lot of

illegal immigrants, you're going to drive down the wage of their workers. And so unions were opposed to illegal immigration. Well, that's why the working men and women in the country support Trump. But the union bosses have sold themselves to the Democrat Party. And whether it's transgender or whether it's illegal immigration, they're all in on it. But the union workers themselves, they know what this does to them. On the politics of this, Rachel, I think there's a deep dissatisfaction with the economy. And you'll get some economists on other liberal networks talking about the American people just don't get it. It's actually going, Bidenomics is working. Things are going really well. Look at these numbers. They just don't see what's really happening. numbers. They just don't see what's really happening. Well, when you see this story, stories like this, where you go, actually, the American worker is right. What happens in their community, in their family, with their opportunity, with their job, it's not happening

for them. And they're angry about it. It's happening for a different group of people. And so the numbers that CNN or MSNBC might reflect on their channels don't have this breakdown. And then it doesn't underscore the plight of the average American worker who's the average American voter. We'll be right back with much more after this.

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This situation has changed very quickly. Helping make sense of the world when it matters most. Stay in the know. CBC News. Again, Sean, we're looking at over the month of August, we've gained jobs, and that's what the Democrats have been bragging about. But all of the net job gains are for immigrants. They've gained 635,000 jobs, while native-born Americans have lost their job to the tune of 1.325 million. And now since COVID, since right before COVID, 2 million native born workers have lost their jobs. So all of the net job gains are immigrants. So this past week, Sean, we saw Donald Trump go do like an economic forum. He sat for like, stood, sat for an hour and a half and took questions from the leading

minds in the American economy and held his own. Could knowing these kinds of numbers and being able to unpack them, could Kamala Harris do the same thing? And shouldn't she have to have him these numbers? Listen, I'm not joking. I'm serious. I know you're not. No, I know you are. And I think it's, but it's laughable. Kamala Harris could read a teleprompter with a plan on it. But if asked about the plan by a reporter, there's no way she could articulate what her plan is. It would devolve into a confusing mess of a word salad. That's what it would become. And so as I look at what Trump did, and by the way, I can't remember everything, but it was independence. Elon Musk is going to do an

efficiency review of the US as a whole. We spend way too much money, way less regulation, lower taxes. And I can't remember what the other ones were. But those, I mean, what Donald Trump was doing is saying, we are going to look to the private sector. We're going to get the government out of their way. And we are going to let the magic of free enterprise work. And this thing is going to grow. And he's right because whenever we do that, those policies actually work to build the middle class and create jobs and opportunity. And Kamala Harris is looking at the exact opposite, saying, you know what I want to do? I want to go into commie land, and I want more government, more rules, more taxes, more regulation, more open borders, more immigrants. be asked to defend why it is that her Bidenomics, Joe Biden's Bidenomics, and her party's economic

policy have been so good for people who aren't citizens of this country and so terrible for the hardworking people that are suffering, who are from this country, who pay the taxes, who need to feed their children, who are part of this American family. To me, it just seems politically untenable. I cannot imagine if Donald Trump was in office right now, and he had that stat to deal with, the media would be ripping him apart. And I don't see any other than Fox News and a few economists taking this on,

politically speaking. Well, you'll hear it on Fox and you'll see it on Twitter. That's about it. But you mentioned the debate. This is our last conversation on the podcast before the debate. And just for a couple of minutes, we talk about it. You really, being able to answer questions and be thoughtful in your policy, it takes practice, just like anything takes practice. It just doesn't come organically. And that's why when you take questions from the press, you get better at it and responding and getting the message out that you want. And the more questions you take, the less nervous you are. Kamala Harris has not been good at taking questions from the press. Even the videos that she puts out, the statements that she gives, they turn into word salads.

And so she hasn't done much of it. And so what I think is going to happen on Tuesday, she is going to be very, very short on policy. And I think Donald Trump is going to be very very short on policy and i think donald trump is going to he's unpredictable but he is he is going to call her out for all her left-wing radical policies that she's talked about in the past but also the policies of of her and joe biden but she's going to be nervous rachel because she's not used to doing this it's a it's a huge stage there's a lot of nerves that come into play when you walk on that stage and you've never done it and never taken questions from reporters. All those things are going to, I think, affect her ability to perform.

Remember the clips that they've played? She's like, I'm talking. I'm talking. She'll wave her hand and be like, I'm talking. And that's what she, and it's like, oh my God, that's such a strong, amazing woman. Look at her shut down people who are talking over her with I'm talking. So she wants to get moments like that to try to get a win on the debate stage. And deflect from like a real conversation about policy. Yes.

Which is why she was fighting so hard, Rachel, to have the mics open. She wanted Donald Trump to interrupt her where she could say, I'm talking, I'm talking now. Basically, kind of, you know, treat him like a little kid. Like, be quiet.

I'm in charge here. But Donald Trump said, no, we're going to keep the same rules that we had with Joe Biden, which is when you're not speaking, you're my bitch. So she's not going to have the best opportunities to do that. And I think Trump has become more skilled in his debating after his first debate with Joe Biden in 2020 was not good at all. I think he's gotten better since then. And I think he's learned a lot. And I think he's going to be really,

really good on the stage in the debate and prepared to call her out for her radicalism. Yeah, I was thinking back when you were talking about what it takes to have a good debate, I was thinking back to your first debate. You had not really, you'd been a DA before, but you had run, I think unopposed several of the times that you had run for DA. So when you ran for Congress, that was the first time you were in a real political competition. And I remember that first debate more than any of the other debates that you did because it was so scary for you. It was also scary for me. It was so scary for you.

It was also scary for me. And I remember being in the room before you went out onto the stage and I, I kicked all of your staff out. They were all like nervous for you. And I thought they were making it then the energy in the room, even more nervous. So I kicked them out. I talked with you and we prayed together before you went out on the stage, but you were not an incumbent.

You were the underdog in that first race. And no one expected you to win. The guy who had that seat before you had been there for 40 years. And he was a Democrat. And your way of winning was you were willing to talk to anybody, any reporter that would put a camera in front of you, any, you know, constituent that had a question about what you would do if you were elected. You were prepared because you were talking all the time, all the time. And I just think I could tell Sean when she had that interview with Tim Waltz and herself with Dana Bash. He seemed nervous to me, which is remarkable for somebody who's a vice president, an incumbent.

She should be really confident. She seemed nervous. I think you laid that out so well that's it that's exactly right and when i when i did i made mistakes all over the map i would look at answers or you would you would review everything and be like oh that was really great or you'd be like oh that was not so good you know and and by doing that we got better i got better at it but um the the the the problem is if you don't do it you don't get to review it and then you don't get to get better at it right and and kamala hasn't done it and she's i i don't know what's gonna happen maybe she's a force of nature rachel that's gonna be able to perform in a way that's beyond preparation.

I just don't think that's going to be the case. And so she's going to look for the moments that she can get off policy and get to some cultural attack on Trump. And it's going to be important for him then to be prepared and stand message and talk about what matters. People care about the economy. People want, they don't want to rely on the government. They all want us to go. I want to go to work and I want to get a good salary. I want to be able to take care of my family.

Want a couple of days off a week where I can afford to maybe go to dinner or maybe once a year, go on vacation. That's all I know. I don't know the sun, the moon, the stars. And I don't have that now because things cost too much. Yeah. You know, I think that's going to be the trap, right? She's going to want to talk about abortion. And because Trump can sometimes be undisciplined, I think he's going to, I think what would be if I was advising him, I'd tell him not to be defensive on abortion and not to engage in it to go. Yeah, I already took that back to the states. That's not a federal issue. Goodbye. And move to say what people really want to know is how they're going to pay their mortgage.

Did you know? Do you know how many people have, you know, missed their car payment? I do. Do you know how many people have more than, you know, $20,000 in debt? Do you know how many people have under $400 for an emergency fund? Do you know how many people, you know, can't, you know, buy groceries or say that, you know, their family has gone hungry in the last month? I know that number. You don't know that number. That's the way to win. And this number that you brought up, Sean, is devastating because that number also is about the border. That number is about who this administration, the Biden-Harris administration, prioritizes over the lives and the economic well-being of its own people. And actually, the border is an example of how they hate native-borns. You would never have your border open where you know there are prisoners being emptied

out of jails in Venezuela, where MS-13 is coming from El Salvador, where Chinese are coming in and potentially setting up militias and rogue labs in California, you would never bring criminals through our country that kill our young women when they go jogging or when a little 12-year-old goes to the flippin' 7-Eleven where they rape and kill the 12-year-old. You would never do that if you loved your people. I'm sorry, Sean. I think it's really that simple. Listen, I couldn't agree with that more. If you love someone or love a people, you would never do this to them.

If you love someone or love a people, you would never do this to them. And what will not fix the problems we talked about here and what we started this story with, what won't fix it is joy. Pretending like you're joyful when your country is not joyful. What's that? Let them eat cake? Yeah. Marie Antoinette. Yeah.

The French Revolution. plans on how you fix it. And in true Trump style, the economic speech in New York yesterday wasn't perfect, but it was really good. The ideas were solid, sound ideas that grow economies. And so- But a lot of people, and by the way, I saw the clips. I didn't see the entire thing. I know you did. But a lot of people, the feedback I got, Sean, and I'm curious because I know you saw it, is that a lot of people were like, oh, his answers aren't crisp enough. His answers aren't. And they were worried because these are people who want Trump to do well in the debate and were afraid that he's going to go off on sort of too many, too many diatribes or too many tangents and not be succinct and to the point

and land the blow in the debate. What was your thought having watched the whole thing? So Donald Trump is not a crisp, short communicator. Crisp, clean answers is not what he does, right? He can go on and he can answer a question for 20 minutes sometimes, right? So, you know, listen, you're not, you're not going to change the way he answers these questions. And I would have liked them crisper and cleaner, but he answered the questions. He has thoughts on these issues. The smartest

economic minds in the country are there asking him questions and he can answer them. He can speak economics with them. Kamala could not. And just going back to the debate, you don't have 20 minutes to answer a question. You have two minutes. So you have to be, the debate forces him to be far crisper than he was yesterday, which is a good thing for him. So yeah, listen, I'm interested. This is going to, we got a lot of polling. We talked about polling. This is going to shake the race up. And I do hope that we have real ideas put on the table by real journalists asking real questions. I'm not sure that's going to happen, but I think it would be really nice if that was the case on Tuesday night. By the way,

we're going to simulcast this debate on Fox Business and on Fox News. So you can watch it here on our network. This is going to be the biggest debate in a long time, I think. Americans are going to tune in. And I'm going to be at the debate doing some live coverage before, during, and after for Fox Nation. Pete Hegseth is going to be hosting that. And I challenge you to actually watch this on Fox nation because, you know, on Fox nation, we just kind of lay it out a little bit more like you might in your living room versus the way Dana and Brett bear do.

So if you're looking for a sort of like the, the, the way you might lay it out with your friends, tune into Fox nation. Looking for sort of like the way you might lay it out with your friends. Tune into Fox Nation. I'm going to be on there with Pete, who's hosting it with other people. And it's going to be a fun time. So definitely check that out. It is a freewheeling, really smart conversation. It's smart.

It's insightful. There's not commercial breaks. You're like, you guys are riffing and laughing and making. There's not commercial breaks. You're like, you guys are riffing and laughing and making, it is the Fox Nation part of the coverage is fantastic. So if you turn it on and watch it, you're going to love it. Rachel, we both have done that and had an enjoyable time. So yeah, you'll do that.

I'll be at home with the kids tuning in after my two-hour special on Fox Business. And it's going to be, it's going to be big league. It will be big league. Well, it'd be great. We'll come back and talk about it also on the kitchen table to see how it all, listen, Sean, I was just saying, I didn't think there would be a more exciting sort of, I don't know, outcome affecting debate. If you want to, if you want to go that way, than the one with Joe Biden. I mean, it certainly did. It got him out of the race.

But boy, this one's right up there with that, because I think there's going to be a lot of pressure on her to prove that she's not the AI social media TikTok candidate with canned answers and no interviews. So I think it's going to be interesting. I think if she doesn't do well, already you're seeing polls are beginning to trend towards Trump. I think people, it's getting real. And I think as it gets real, and as you can see from the numbers you showed, Sean, and there's a ton of other economic points you guys bring up on the bottom line, every single day, the economy is not doing well. People are hurting. People are suffering. And they can't say it's not Bidenomics. That's what they've been bragging about it. This is what they're delivering. This is what they've given us. And so I guess we'll see what happens on the debate. I think it's going to be defining. So true. I'm going to have this weekend,

I have some people come into my house to help out, put my seatbelt on my couch. I'm going to strap myself in. And on Tuesday night, maybe I'll have a little high rock pain and we're going to sit and watch it. So I know you will too. We look forward to chatting about it next week as well. I hope you all enjoyed our podcast today. It's a little wild. Rachel's got kids coming home, frying things up. I had to come in doing the bottom line tonight, but we love doing this podcast. Thank you for being with us.

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