From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Not Just The FBI: How Media & Big Tech Influence Elections

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down to analyze the recent comments by Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast about how the FBI could have influenced Facebook into suppressi...ng news around the 2020 Presidential Election. Later, they discuss polls that were taken after the 2020 election that suggest coverage of the Hunter Biden laptop story could have influenced voters, how the FBI has been politicized in recent decades, and how election integrity is the most important thing in a democracy.  Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 BetMGM, authorized gaming partner of the NBA, has your back all season long. From tip-off to the final buzzer, you're always taken care of with a sportsbook born in Vegas. That's a feeling you can only get with BetMGM. And no matter your team, your favorite player, or your style, there's something every NBA fan will love about BetMGM. Download the app today and discover why BetMGM is your basketball home for the season. Raise your game to the next level this year with BetMGM, a sportsbook worth a slam dunk and authorized gaming partner of the NBA.
Starting point is 00:00:35 BetMGM.com for terms and conditions. Must be 19 years of age or older to wager. Ontario only. Please play responsibly. If you have any questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my lovely wife, Rachel Campos Duffy.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Thank you, Sean. It's so great to be at our kitchen table again on our second podcast of the week. And we're having a discussion this morning over coffee. We're still kind of pondering this whole Hunter Biden laptop story. It's still very shocking. I thought it was interesting, Sean, you know, so many people, like I think over 45% of people didn't even know that the Hunter Biden laptop existed, of people didn't even know that the Hunter Biden laptop existed or even that it was real. They were putting out messages that it was Russian disinformation. But there's a lot of other stuff people didn't know going into the election.
Starting point is 00:01:57 That's very interesting. 35% of people didn't know that there was a sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden. And almost nine percent of those people said that would have shifted their vote. Forty five percent, as I mentioned, didn't know about the Hunter Biden scandal. And about 10 percent of those people said they wouldn't have voted for Joe Biden if they had known about it. This one's really interesting. They wouldn't have voted for Joe Biden if they had known about it.
Starting point is 00:02:25 This one's really interesting, this next stat, Sean. 50 percent, over 50 percent of Americans, 50.5, were unaware of the U.S. energy independence under Trump. So over half the country didn't realize that Donald Trump, which I think, frankly, Sean, was probably one of his greatest achievements. He made America energy independent. He made it so that we didn't depend on people who hated us around the world for our energy. And it actually fueled the greatest economy we'd ever seen. Yeah. And 5.6% of those folks would have shifted their vote away from Joe Biden. Fascinating. If you look at all eight of those issues together, the poll says that a total of 17 percent of Biden voters told the pollsters that they would have changed their vote if they had been aware of one or more of these important stories. And this would have moved every one of the swing votes, swing states into Trump's column by huge numbers, by huge margin. The president would have trounced
Starting point is 00:03:27 Biden, according to this poll, in the electoral college, 311 to 227. And by the way, this poll was taken by the Media Research Center. Isn't that fascinating? It is. And it begs the question, what happens in society with those who are responsible for giving information out to the public? What happens when Americans aren't fully informed of the issue sets that really matter to them? Because these issues, I think, do matter. The character of the president, number one, and some of the issues that are really important to people's life, like energy. some of the issues that are really important in people's life, like energy. Right. And I mean, again, in a second, I want to go back into the Hunter Biden laptop story, the FBI and the Joe Rogan interview with Mark Zuckerberg. But first, we kind of have this view because, listen, we grew up in the 80s. We have this opinion that
Starting point is 00:04:20 everyone's a good actor. Everyone's trying to do what's best, right? And so you think the media is there to make money and present the news to the American people. Well, we saw over the, at least the course of the Trump presidency, that's not what the media was doing. They weren't talking about the good, the bad, and the ugly of Donald Trump. No, they were just about, we're going to take Donald Trump down. He's a threat to our ideas. The great transition that we want to see in America, Donald Trump is a threat to that. And so we have to present a narrative that's incredibly negative and oftentimes untrue about Donald Trump. But then we also have to hide the bad, negative, horrible facts about Joe Biden. And if we do that, demonize Trump and lift up Biden,
Starting point is 00:05:07 we, the media, can impact the outcome of an election. Right, because it's really state media. I mean, the people that, you know, used to be, and we talked about this a little bit with Batia last week, that it used to be that being a journalist was a working class position, right? It was like the working man who was sort of representing the views of everyday American. And then something happened, something shifted.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I think she took it back to somewhere in the 80s. We started to see the Kennedys. Remember that, you know, several Kennedys became journalists. And you started to see these elites and the incomes of journalists increase. And they sort of became part of the elite class and part of that narrative and that mindset. And so we don't really have, you know, outside of local news, maybe we don't really have a media that isn't, you know, towing the state line, the Democrat ruling party line. And I think we saw that there.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It's not that it just started under Trump, Sean. I think most Republicans have seen it, but it just went into overdrive. There was something about Trump that really disgusted the elites, that really threatened them for some reason. And it just went in to overdrive. And it became that you could justify doing anything, violating all kinds of ethical, you know, journalistic standards if it came to that. I want to play a clip, though, Sean, because this is from Mark Zuckerberg after he this is how he defended the suppression of the information about Joe Biden on Facebook. I think it really, the casualness with which he did it is what really strikes me.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Because, I mean, it turned out after the fact, I mean, the fact checkers looked into it. No one was able to say it was false. Right. So basically it had this period where it was getting less distribution. So, yeah. I mean, but I think like, I think it probably, it sucks though. So basically it had this period where it was getting less distribution. So, yeah. I mean, but I think like – I think it probably – it sucks though I think in the same way that probably having to go through like a criminal trial but being proven innocent in the end sucks. Like it still sucks to have – like that you had to go through a criminal trial but at the end you're free. So it's – I don't know if the answer would have been
Starting point is 00:07:25 don't do anything or don't have any process. I think the process was pretty reasonable. You know, it's, we still let people share it, but, but obviously you don't want situations like that. As a, as a prosecutor, what do you think about this? I don't know that I get the analogy because I think it's like I got charged criminally. I was innocent, went to trial and I lost is what happened. You weren't exonerated at trial. You were convicted at trial because that's what happened to Donald. That's what I was going to say. I see this from the perspective of Donald Trump. He was convicted essentially through the process of this. And now they're going, well,
Starting point is 00:08:00 sorry, we screwed this up. You know, it turns out Hunter Biden's laptop was true. But I find it fascinating that Zuckerberg is like, you know, this the process was up. You know, it turns out Hunter Biden's laptop was true. But I find it fascinating that Zuckerberg is like, you know, the process was good. You know, the process kind of worked. It kind of sucked, but, you know, that's what we have to do. Well, you know what? That's not what you have to do, especially when the process kept good information,
Starting point is 00:08:19 important information, information that would have changed the way people voted on election day. When that information wasn't given to the way people voted on Election Day when that information wasn't given to the American people. No, that's a problem, Mark. Can't can't go down that road again in the future. And let's be clear, Mark Zuckerberg, he was the one that gave, you know, tens of millions of dollars of his own money to a left wing group to affect the outcome of the election. So for him to feel bad, it was around the country, but also specifically in our state of Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:08:49 But to make us believe that Mark Zuckerberg might feel bad that he put the thumb on the scale of the election by suppressing the Hunter Biden story, give me a break. That's what he wanted. That was what he was giving part of his fortune to, is to make sure Donald Trump lost the election and Joe Biden won. Yeah. You know, it's interesting because I keep saying, where do I go to get back our 2020 election? You know, I just feel so duped by this, by everything that happened. And I feel like we didn't go in to Election Day with all the information that Americans did not have all the information in order to make that decision. I mean, the polling numbers I gave you, I mean, if over 50 percent of the American people didn't know that that Donald Trump brought us energy independence, there is a serious problem with the information getting to the American people through through our media.
Starting point is 00:09:39 But it also brings up something about Election Day. And, you know, Sean, I feel very strongly that we should not have early voting. It should be so limited. It should be because you're in the military and you're stationed abroad or if you're old and sick and in a nursing home or in the hospital. But other than that, I believe all of us should go. And by the way, Sean, I think we should have a holiday. I think the Election Day should be a holiday. No one should go to work and people should be able to go and vote. And we should all vote on the same day. And we should all have the same information because one of the things that also happened and people forget about this, and you can Google this if you don't believe me that this is true. When the Hunter Biden laptop did drop from that story dropped from the New York
Starting point is 00:10:25 Post, a lot, the number one most Googled term on Google was how do I reverse my vote? How do I change my vote? So people who are voting in September and early October, and then something happens, people want to know everything and have all the information when they cast a vote. And I think we really have to, as a country, start to think about that. Other countries don't have mail-in voting. They don't vote three months in advance, two months in advance. And they have the day off to go vote. And you can choose to vote or not vote on that day, but we should all go. And it should be like this national ritual. I think it's a beautiful civic thing. And we should all show an ID to prove who we are.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Why can't we go back to that? You know, I think it's a good point. And because this is really important, who we select as our leaders, whether there are mayors, our senators, our congressmen, our president, that's a big deal. And to think that we're going to we're so nonchalant that we need three months or two months to figure out a time when we can stroll in to cast our ballot. No, this is actually important. You should put some thought into it. You're right. We should all vote with the same information on Election Day. Now, there are times when and I've had this happen. I'm not going to be in my hometown where I can vote on election day. Too bad. No, it's not. If it's not important to you, then it's not important to you.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I just think we have to keep making exceptions and making exceptions. And that's how this whole thing starts. If you're sick in the hospital, if you're sick in a nursing home or if you're in the military and station abroad, that's my view. You think I'm being very. What happens, what happens though is I wanted to vote. So instead of getting a mail-in ballot, I actually had to go down to the clerk's office in my hometown. I had to show them my ID and go, hey, listen, I'm not going to be, it was much harder than- How far in advance was that? I think I was 10 days out, but I was going to show them my I'd show them my ID, get a ballot and cast my ballot at the courthouse because I was not going to be there. Now, it was harder for me to go through that process than it would have been just to go and vote on election day.
Starting point is 00:12:37 You mean security wise? No, time wise. Oh, time wise. It was more of a pain to go to the courthouse and figure. I mean, it was it was it wasn't as easy as Election Day, but I wanted to vote. So I did that process. It was meaningful to me. But you're right. You want everyone to have the same information. And so it's not just, you know, the time frame in which we vote, but the information flow matters.
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I think, you know, what's my takeaway from the stats that you read, Rachel? My takeaway is we have to be vigilant. We have to be really smart about the information that we get and the sources in which we get that information. And also, I think we have to be smart about how we share that information with others. And you might not be able to do it on a platform like Facebook or Twitter because they're going to censor you. They're going to shut you down, shut your voice
Starting point is 00:13:25 down because they don't like what you're going to say. But we have a lot of cups of coffee. We touch a lot of different people in our lives. And I think it's important to talk about those things, the issues that matter. I think it's more systemic than that. I mean, Sean, you can say, yeah, well, I call all all my friends i can text them um i can you know start sharing information but i think it's really hard when you know you i think we just need congress to do something to stop these big tech companies from suppressing information that they don't want us to hear or amplifying information they want us to hear because it's just not fair it's like they are becoming part of the story, part of the election process. And that's not right. And I just think
Starting point is 00:14:10 when you say, yeah, we need to be really smart about it. What do you mean by that? I mean, the smart thing is to voting people who understand tech, because we've got a lot of people in Congress who are old and don't understand tech. And we need people who understand how powerful that platform is. And there has to be consequences for interfering with our elections. But you talked about Congress. Congress is not moving in the direction
Starting point is 00:14:36 that we're talking about. Nancy Pelosi and Democrats with H.R.1, that's the House bill, the first bill, it's the most important bill. They reserve H.R. one for their high priority legislation. Their first bill is to change the rules around election to make sure everywhere in the country it's mandated that they all have mail in balloting. No one has to show an I.D. that they can have drop boxes. And they say this is about giving access to elections to everybody.
Starting point is 00:15:06 But when you pull the idea of not showing an ID when you vote, 78 percent of Americans believe you should show an ID. Could that pass? Listen, they've tried to push it. It would pass in the House. Absolutely. It won't pass in the Senate. But this is a complete takeover of the elections, not making it better after 2020, making it far less secure, far more ability for fraud and shenanigans in an election. We had Molly Hemingway on earlier this week, and she seems pretty optimistic about how at least the states have made changes to make elections more secure. Do you feel that way, too? Well, I do think, you know, some states have seen, you know, the problems in the last election. But this is when, you know, you had Joe Biden say by showing an idea and voting on election day, that's Jim Crow 2.0.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You know, white Americans, African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, they all agree that we, as a majority, we should show our ideas to vote. And I think that's important because you want to have faith in your election. You want to know that there was no cheating or there was no mass cheating in an election. And so if you support a candidate and your candidate loses, you're like, you know what? I'm really annoyed. I'm really maybe angry that my candidate lost, but I accept the results that my fellow citizens voted for somebody else. You take that and you go home and maybe you go work on the next election. But when you don't have faith that the election was fair, that you thought there was cheating and you look here, at least on the information flow, if you want to call it cheating in the sense that people didn't know relevant information would have changed their votes and powerful people, elites were the ones who kept that out of our consciousness. So we could make a decision on who our president should be on a full set of facts is untenable.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It's unbelievable. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Oh, interrupting their playlist to talk about defying gravity, are we? That's right, Newton. With a Bronco in Bronco Sport, gravity has met its match. Huh, maybe that apple hit me a little harder than I thought.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah, you should get that checked out. With standard 4x4 capability, Broncos keep going up and up. Now get up to $6,000 in rebates on eligible 2024 Bronco family models. Visit your Toronto area Ford store or Ford.ca. To your point, Sean, 57% electorate did not have access to information that could have been critical to their decisions at the poll. So 57% believe that. By the way, 76% believe that the FBI misled Congress.
Starting point is 00:17:48 So there's some, there is some, you know, bipartisanship when you're looking at a number like 76%. I think that Americans are waking up. And maybe this is one of these cases where the truth eventually gets out. The question is, and I think people are waking up to the fact that government has been weaponized against the people that our law enforcement and intelligence agencies are weighing in in political matters that they have no business in. But will we be able to change the Congress so that we can put a stop to these things? I feel like we're entering this new, weird phase. And I've talked to several colleagues of mine at Fox who are really concerned about this new place we're in as we're learning these things. There's a level of outrage, but I don't think, in my opinion, enough outrage over the fact that, for example, the FBI.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So, yeah, I want to come involved with that. That's the most important point here, because I think that's the story. I keep focusing on the election because i want 2020 back but you're worried about the fbi well i think if you can say well i don't like facebook they censor information i'm going to go to truth social i'm going to go there's other platforms you can go to rumble for videos that aren't censored as opposed to youtube or getter that's right there's there's other platforms where information is freely being shared. You can watch Fox. And frankly, you look at Fox and Brett Baer gives you both sides of the story. He's giving you the relevant facts of the day that you can tune in and go, oh, I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:19:15 the good, the bad and the ugly of both sides. That's what you get at Fox. You don't get that at other networks. So, again, there's there's pathways around, you know, the media and big tech. Yeah. The biggest problem here is the FBI. And because it's a black box, and it's supposed to be a black box, they're supposed to do investigations, get intelligence. And we allow for that because they're charged with keeping us safe from really bad people who we see can, you know, 11 bad things happen and we want to empower our intelligence and our fbi to make sure that doesn't happen again well they've abused that power to now say well you can't really see what we're doing we can hide behind this this wall that you can't penetrate america and oftentimes the congress can't penetrate it either and we're going to put our our thumb on the scale of elections.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And I think the FBI for a long time, you know, after the days of, you know, J. Edgar Hoover, were not not political. They were about doing the good work of of keeping America safe. But during the Obama years, I think there was a concerted effort to change the mindset inside the FBI to bring in left wingers. There are some important hires this is what you're saying some important ideological hires within the fbi and that that has um this was it's brought you bruce orr and klein smith who changed the email that went to the to the pfizer court so they could surveil donald trump page and struck you know tim tebow now jim's jim comey i mean you have a whole list of of fbi activists democrat activists anti-republican activists where you look at our history i mean
Starting point is 00:20:53 history go back 10 years 20 years i don't know anybody from the fbi that was such a great point you were talking about that yesterday when you were on fox business you were filling in for cudlow and you were saying i don't remember you know, knowing the names of people who worked in the FBI. But suddenly we all know these names and that's a bad sign because they're violating the trust that we've given them. Right. And so, again, when you have bad actors, when you have political activists inside law enforcement, I mean, the administration is able to bring in politicos and put them in, you know, in places where they're a secretary or they're a high-ranking official. They're not careerists. They're politicals that are hired by the new administration.
Starting point is 00:21:34 To lead agencies or whatever. And we expect that. That's so the president can accomplish the goals that they set forth when they ran for president. So bureaucracy is not running it. You have somebody who's doing what the president wants. The FBI and the DOJ are different, because those are not political places. So then why do we have, you know, politically appointed heads of the DOJ?
Starting point is 00:21:57 Because then isn't that, in essence, a bit of a conflict of interest? Because the president appoints the head of the Department of Justice. The department of justice had kind of must feel some sort of loyalty to the president or or or and at least share their ideological point of view no so that's interesting the person that you pick is picked by a politico a president right but the president is charged with being responsible and not picking a political hack. They want to pick a smart person who's going to effectively administer justice.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And so, yes, it's a political pick, but they don't want their pick to be political. That's the mindset that we expect from our president in those two spaces. Now, you might say, you know, my Department of Education head is gonna be political. And that doesn't, I mean, again, we've seen the impact of that too, but that's less offensive than having politics in the DOJ. And so that's why when we see the politics come and we go listen, the FBI is going after Donald Trump for four years of his presidency. They surveilled him as a candidate and as a president. This is unheard of in American history. Or the DOJ says that parents who are protesting, you know, trans ideology and CRT and school boards, they're being labeled as domestic terrorists.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Sean, let me ask you this question. So some people think that Merrick Garland's, you know, political activism in that position has a lot to do with the fact that, you know, he really wanted to be the Supreme Court justice. And, you know, it was during Donald Trump's term in office and in conjunction with Mitch McConnell that he was knocked out of that place. And he didn't get to be the Supreme Court justice. I don't remember all the mechanics around it, but whatever he was, people thought he was going to be the Supreme Court justice and he wasn't. And he blames Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell for that. Do you think he would do more damage on the Supreme Court because that's a lifetime appointment than he is doing at the DOJ? In other words, if you could if you had to pick the two evils, right, Merrick Garland at the DOJ or Merrick Garland at the Supreme Court, what would you do?
Starting point is 00:24:12 It's an interesting question because you're not the single head at the at the Supreme Court. There's nine justices. Right. But that would mean that you have one radical liberal in Garland closer to switching the majority of the court. So that's really bad. And it's a lifetime appointment where at the Department of Justice, he's got a guaranteed spot there for four years. And yes, he can wreak havoc and there can be damage inflicted on the American people. But also there's a lot of scrutiny over what he's doing as well. people, but also there's a lot of scrutiny over what he's doing as well. Can I switch gears for you just for a second? Because we've been talking about, you know, the Hunter Biden laptop story, the election,
Starting point is 00:24:52 the role of the media. What does this pretend for future elections? But we still are only, it's hard to believe we still have three more years left of Joe Biden, essentially, how much worse this can get. But really, for me, what was important about that laptop, as fascinated as I have been by Hunter Biden, by the way, if you haven't seen the Hunter Biden scandal documentary on Fox Nation, it's very good. It's great. I mean, the book is really good. We watched it. We watched it. It's great. And it's in his words, because remember, Hunter Biden wrote a book. And so there's an audio of his book and they actually use his audio with his voice on so much of this.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I mean, it's just unbelievable. These stories about him and, you know, the sex and the drugs and the prostitutes and the baby mamas. I mean, it's fascinating. But really, Sean, it's about Joe Biden. And it's very clear. I mean, by the way, 78% of Americans believe that the Hunter Biden laptop is real. It's obviously real. We know it's real. The FBI has pretty much admitted it's real.
Starting point is 00:26:02 If that's real, the emails on there are real. And that means Joe Biden. It's very clear from Bobulinski, who worked with Joe Biden, who was working with him on some deals. So anyway, going back, Joe Biden is the big guy. He's getting 10 percent, which means he is compromised by the Chinese, by the Russians. I mean, this is the biggest story. I mean, this has changed so many things. I've kept wondering, you and I have been talking a lot about the fentanyl crisis and the role of the Chinese in providing the chemicals that the cartels are using. Why hasn't Joe Biden said to the Chinese, there is going to be major consequences if you keep selling chemicals to the cartels that are poisoning our children and killing 100,000 Americans. You better stop that. There's a reason why he doesn't act tough with China on that front.
Starting point is 00:26:57 There's all kinds of trade issues, Sean, that would benefit working class Americans. And he's refused to step in on, you know, all kinds of patents and intellectual property rights that he hasn't weighed in on. There has to be a reason why he's so weak on China when they're clearly our number one adversaries. And your point is obviously here that Joe Biden's son Hunter was making money in China. And so was Joe. And Joe was getting a kickback off that money. And the Chinese know that. And therefore, to your point, the analysis goes that Joe Biden has compromised and therefore won't stand up for you, the American people. He has to be muted and silenced and actually told the line of China. So Joe Biden is not exposed. And frankly, you see a lot of that
Starting point is 00:27:40 happening right now, the weakness that he's exhibited, even the fact that he would publicly expose that Nancy Pelosi, that she's going to go to Taiwan, right? That he's actually doing a favor to the Chinese to let them know that she's going to make this trip because obviously they think that Taiwan is theirs. We don't necessarily agree with that, but you don't know. So I'm just an average member of Congress. When I traveled on a Kodal, I didn't do very many of them. I did a couple. No one knew the route in which we traveled, the countries that we were going to go. You wouldn't post anything on social media in a country that you were at until you left that country. The fact that you would say where the speaker is going, and that would come from Joe Biden, is almost like Joe Biden's going to
Starting point is 00:28:24 do a little tip off for the Chinese to go, see'm on your side China I'm going to tell you that Nancy Pelosi is going to go to Taiwan to them and you can actually you know attack us and attack her and talk about how outrageous this is they go go back to the media though on this because this is where we originally started where's the media on this I did not hear other than on Fox News, people bringing up the fact of that's weird. The president of the United States is outing his friend, Nancy Pelosi. By the way, they were petrified on the plane. If you saw the reports, they said that the Chinese were messing with the signals on the plane as they were landing and that they all were praying as they were descending into Taiwan because they were kind of freaked out
Starting point is 00:29:05 so they were in that position because of joe biden her friend a fellow catholic by the way i was i was fox that was a fox news alert nancy police was praying on a plane uh but but i say that in jest it's actually really scary and the media never really asked Joe Biden or his crazy press secretary, you know, why would you out your friend like that? Why would you put her in danger? Maybe you only get Peter Doocy asking her questions and no one seems to want to follow up after Peter Doocy has done a great job. Maybe she was praying her militant and radical rosary on that. We did the podcast on that. So I guess as we close out this
Starting point is 00:29:45 Cup of Coffee and podcast, it's important to make sure you get good information. Don't believe the FBI. Don't believe the DOJ. Don't believe the media. Make them go earn your trust again. They have to earn it back because they don't have it right now. And make sure you do your work. There's a lot of good sites, a lot of good networks that give you the truth because you want to hear
Starting point is 00:30:02 good stuff and the bad stuff. I listen to everything. I listen to everything and I weigh it out. I'm not in some conservative bubble. I try and read different things in different newspapers, but I'm able to also see where there's a bias. And I don't think that the New York Times has earned my trust, sorry. And from there, let's go back and work towards
Starting point is 00:30:22 building up a society and a culture and institutions that actually, you know, work for the people. We had that before. It wasn't that long ago. Let's go work and elect people who are going to bring that back, fight to have those principles still instilled in the country. And I think if we do that, this future is bright. But if we don't stand up. Yeah, it's a critical juncture. There's a critical juncture. There's no Calvary behind you. It's a critical juncture. It's like you stand now, speak the truth. It's revolutionary right now to speak the truth when there's so many lies
Starting point is 00:30:53 around us, speak the truth. Don't be afraid. Be that voice of common sense. And maybe we can, you know, America has an amazing ability to restore herself, to reinvent herself. Because I think your kids and your grandkids deserve to have what you have. Right?
Starting point is 00:31:12 They deserve to have that freedom and that kind of economy. And it's worth fighting for because I don't want them to grow up in a North Korea. I don't want that for them. Or China. China. Well, listen, everyone, thank you for joining us on our Kitchen Table podcast today. If you like our podcast, you can rate, review, subscribe, wherever you get your podcasts. Give us a great rating and listen until next week.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Have a good one. All right. Bye, everybody. From the Fox News Podcasts Network. Subscribe and listen to the Trey Gowdy Podcast. Former federal prosecutor and four-term U.S. Congressman from South Carolina brings you a one-of-a-kind podcast. Subscribe and listen now by going to foxnewspodcasts.com.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.