From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Q & A With The Duffy's: Fighting For The Future Of America

Episode Date: May 20, 2023

What advice do Sean and Rachel have for recent graduates? On this episode, the duo shares advice to college and high school graduates on how they can pursue their dream careers and plan for the future.   Later, they discuss how the Duffy family tackles chores around the house, weigh in on what may happen to the FBI in the wake of the Durham Report, and what the future of America will look like amid a changing political climate.   Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The faster money and data move, the further your business can go to a seamless digital future for Canadians. Let's go faster forward together. In life, interact. Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my co-host, partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. So good to be back at our kitchen table, Sean. And this is our favorite time of the week.

We get to answer all the questions that our listeners and viewers have for us. And there's a really great mix today of both personal and very general sort of political questions. I think it's all great. It is. It's awesome. All right, let's go. Let's start the first one. We're in May. End of May, beginning of June is graduation time.

So somebody asked, what advice can you offer college and high school graduates who are anxious about their post-grad life? Do you want me to start? Yes. So listen, I think there, especially in today's world, so many kids think that they're supposed to be rock stars, superstars, CEOs right out of school. Big money makers. That's right. And I think the slow and steady wins the race. I agree with that. Get a job in a field that you may like or a field that you're going to develop and grow in.

And if you do that, I mean, you have a long road ahead of you. And where you start out is not where you end up. And if you're willing to put the work in and learn the skill sets and develop yourself as a worker in a certain space that you love, the future is really bright. But again, I see all these kids who want to, you know, I need to be, you know, way up here at the top. At the beginning. At the beginning. And that's not the way the world works. You don't have the skills. You don't have the life experience to be there.

So stop it. Get a job. Put the hard work in and rise to the ranks. And that is the secret of success. That's the secret of wealth. You do it slowly. You don't do it quickly. It's the secret of a career.

You do it slowly, not quickly. Yeah, building each little skill set as you go. I really like that. I often hear kids say, I don't want to try this sport because I know I won't be the best at it or whatever. And sometimes that can hold people back thinking I have to be number one. On the other hand, I do believe in the law. I was an econ major in college. I do believe in the law. I was an econ major in college. I do believe in the law of comparative advantage. So I can give an example of when I was, you know, in L.A., living in L.A. after I graduated from grad school.

I thought I wanted to be an actress. And I kept. Your phone's ringing. It's my daughter. Stop calling me. I'm on my podcast. It's my oldest daughter. It's not a little one. It's a big daughter. I'm on my podcast. It's my oldest daughter. It's not a little one.

It's a big daughter. I'm sure she's fine. Okay, so I thought I wanted to be an actress, and I kept auditioning. It was really obvious I was not landing any auditions. And then somebody very kindly said, you know, I think you would be a better host. And I didn't take that advice right away, but after a while, I did come back to that. That person saw something in me that I didn't see in myself. I wanted to do acting, but there's a lot of people who are just naturally really great at acting, have that skill, have that passion. And I just was like, yeah, I want

to be an actress. I wasn't that good at it. I went and did something that I was better at and I think that's a that's a lesson in life like if if you are you know if you want to be I mean there I like what you say you got to work hard take step by step but if you're 5-1 like me and you say I really want to be a basketball player that's not a realistic goal for you so find what you're good at or what you like or what you could be good at, what you have a natural advantage in, and then build on that and you can be the best in that field. Yeah. So do you like that? I do. I like that a lot. Now, if you really, your heart is set on being an actor, I mean, you can put more time

in it than you did, right? But your heart wasn't set. Like, I would like to do this. I'm going to try it. I wasn't good at it. I just wasn't. But you didn't want to be that when you were 15 years old. Did you see our promos for Fox and Friends New Years? Yeah. They're embarrassing.

I am so bad at acting. It is like I just don't do it well. And it's just not good. We did a commercial with Outnumbered for Diff TV. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is so horrible. I can't do this. It's like, why did they ask me to do it?

Because I'm so bad at it. Can I just make one other side note on this? I went to law school. And I did the work of law school. But I did reality TV in the middle of law school. I was doing lumberjack sports. So I did not put a ton of time into being a legal scholar through law school to get a top law firm job. And by the way, I didn't want a law firm job.

That's not what it is. I didn't want that. So I went back, and I wanted to go back to Hayward and practice with my father. I ended up going to a small town in northern Wisconsin, Ashland. And I was a DA there. And you got to know the law, but specifically it's criminal law. But I learned how to talk to people on a jury. And when I started, I was so bad. I mean, it was, if I go back, it was brutal. And you do it and you learn. And when I left 10 years later, I was great at it.

I was really good at trials and advocacy. And that helped me in Congress as well. I had no idea the track I would take, but I loved being a prosecutor. I was good at it. And who knew that it would take me on this crazy path? Yeah. Well, being a DA actually is a great preparation for politics, it turns out. Okay. Speaking of politics, here's a political question. Someone says, now that we 100% know

the Russia collusion was a hoax, thanks to the Durham report, will anyone ever be held accountable? That is such a good question. Do you want to take that? No, no, no. You take it. So first off, can I just talk about the FBI quickly? So we look at the FBI and the DOJ and now we know that it was completely fake, the Russia collusion, a hoax with Donald Trump. There's a funny meme I saw that the only people that were involved in the Trump Russia hoax were Trump and Russia. So that, I mean, it is scandalous that we spent four years of our time talking about Trump and Russia and collusion, and nothing was there. The investigation was based on nothing. And it was a coup, if you ask me. Listen, if you... An administrative coup, if you will. Listen, they were trying to take out a duly elected president from the inside.

That's called the coup, 100%. And Christopher Wray, the head of the FBI, when the Durham report came out, it said, listen, we've taken appropriate steps to remedy what happened back in the Trump-Russia collusion, right? Well, fast forward from Trump-Russia collusion and you get to the 2020 election where the FBI was partnering with Twitter and Facebook and Google to suppress information that they were saying was misinformation, like the Hunter laptop, which actually was true. Yeah. Right. They were suppressing conservative voices. So, one, that would tell you the FBI really hasn't been reformed. Then you fast forward a little bit after that and we've learned that the FBI is targeting Catholics, pro-lifers, moms and dads who might go to a school board to voice their opinion or opposition to their kids being taught about sex in the classroom.

Or CRT. Yep. And so the and by the way, this is just, I think, the tip of the iceberg. This is all we know about. I think they're doing a lot more to target conservatives. So this is where the FBI is at. My take is that the FBI and the DOJ have been exposed as political Democrat operatives. And if the Congress held by Republicans doesn't hold the FBI and the DOJ to account, they'll sit back and go, listen, we're doing this. They know we're doing it. And we're untouchable. They can't touch us. They won't touch us. And if you think it's bad now, they're only going to get worse. And sometimes, I'm giving a really long answer, sometimes they don't know that the Congress understands the war they're in, the fight they're in.

The Republicans don't understand. And they have to realize the threat, and they have to lead the country and say— So do you think that someone will be held accountable? If I'm being honest now, no, I don't. No, it's the guy who falsified the... Clinesmith. Yeah. Is that his name? Clinesmith? He falsified the FISA. He changed an email to flip the meaning on its head and to go to the FISA court so they could surveil the Trump campaign. Nothing really happened to him. His name was exposed and he was embarrassed, but I bet he still gets his pension.

A lot of these people are still getting their pension. Andrew McCabe is still getting his pension. Others are still getting their pension. Lois Lerner from the FBI, I mean, from the IRS, when she was targeting conservative groups that might say Tea Party or Patriot, she targeted them to keep away their tax-free status as an organization. She still got her pension. If you were involved in interfering in an American election

on the scale of Andrew McCabe and James Comey, you should face, I think, criminal charges. In the very, very least, you should be stripped of your pension. The taxpayers should not be paying for you at that point. There has to be something that is indicative of, that shows that what you did was shameful. And I don't think any of that has happened. And I think you're right. They will think they can get away with it. We will see this again because there are no consequences. And also the media is saying, oh, the Durham report, no big deal. That's not right either. So that is disappointing. That makes me sad. Can I just, one other point on that. I agree with you that there should be consequences for those

who engaged in the behavior, but the rot that's within the FBI and the DOJ, there has to be fundamental changes so this can't and won't happen again. And that's the question. Will the Congress take away funding for the FBI? Not all of it. Not defund the FBI. They're not going to do that. But will they limit their funding?

Will they break these? So that they just focus on the immediate things that the American people want and they don't have time for all this other stuff? Is that what you mean? Because I don't know if that will change it. Well, so when you look at domestic terrorism, right, which is you. Rachel's a domestic terrorist.

There is no doubt in my mind. I am on multiple FBI lists for pro-life. I'm against CRT in schools. You'm Catholic. I'm a gun owner. I love traditional Catholic Latin mass. I mean, boy, I am, I'm, I'm all over. And so that's, that is the point. So we'll, we'll, if you divide them up and say, and, and curtail the money and direct it, I mean, it has to go for the mob. It has to go for actually people who want to come in and commit terror acts. Catholic moms that go to Latin Mass, that's not what they're doing.

No, they shouldn't be targeting Americans because they have different opinions. So that takes a little more work on their part on how they divvy it up or how they reduce their funding or target their money. And I'm not sure they're going to do it. But we'll see. I hope they do. Okay. Here is one on. That was a long answer.

That was a long answer. It was a complicated question. I know. It is a complicated question. Let's move it along. Let's move it along. Okay. This one's interesting.

How do we tackle chores in housework? How do we, you know, that division of labor in the house? Come on. Who's asking? Are you asking this question? No, I did. That really came in. Rachel, write this one. That really came in. That really came in. How do we do it? Well, so I do most of it.

Exactly. I knew that was going to be the answer. But my standards are much higher. And so that is why I end up doing a lot of it. That said, look, I have a house cleaner that comes every two weeks to clean my house. I am a... So twice a a twice a month yeah twice a month every other week she comes and cleans my house like does the deep cleaning but when you have this many people in a house there is just every day day to day picking up and it can be really exhausting that said I I'm a great at delegating my kids know that hate that about me but I go you know what this is just too much for one person to do. So all of my kids have to help with, you know, they clean up after dinner.

They know how to load and unload the dishwasher. I wash the clothes, but everyone has to fold, help fold, and put away their clothes. So there are ways that we, you know, get around that. I make sure everyone, you know, divides with chores. You know, I'm giving Sean a hard time. Sean does do, you know, some things. But I'll tell you one thing that I was always really grateful for with Sean, which is when it comes to the kids, as much as he possibly could, it was a little harder when he was in Congress because he simply wasn't home as much. But he has always tried to do his part with the kids.

And I was thinking about this the other day. I was actually thinking about Carly Shimkus, you know, just had a baby. A couple, Jesse Waters just had a baby. And I was thinking about that early baby phase, you know, and it's so beautiful. But they're very time consuming, these little babies, you know, nursing and changing. And I remembered that it sparked a memory that you always insisted that, because I love to cook, so I generally do the cooking in the house. And when it was time to sit down, it's hard. Like, you sit down to eat, and as soon as you sit down to eat, the baby's fussy or crying or whatever.

And you always said, no, you're going to get to eat in peace. And you would take the babies, and he would lay them on his lap, like face down. So the baby's head is like faces facing the ground. Legs on one side of my lap, head on the other. Yep, and he would bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. And pat their back. And pat their back. And he would eat that way.

He would bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. And pat their back. And pat their back. And he would eat that way. And sometimes, even after the babies were out of that phase, you would look at Sean and his legs would be bouncing because he's so used to eating. I mean, think about it. If I've calculated I was pregnant for seven, if I put all my pregnancies all together,

I was pregnant for seven years. You look great pregnant too. Seven years pregnant. So that's a lot of babies that we have dealt with and a lot of meals that you did bouncing your legs. And so you would bounce your legs even when there were babies. So I had, this was just about two weeks ago, the older kids were gone and we have a lot of kids. We have two dishwashers.

Maybe we'll tell you one day about the dishwasher fight. I only wanted one. We couldn't afford a second one. We couldn't afford a second one. We ended up getting a second one. We've never gone back. We have. It was a family our size. I don't care, AOC.

We're going to have two dishwashers. It won't work for us. There's so many dishes. But the older kids were gone, and our six-year-old and our nine-year-old were home. And you were like, to both of them, unload the dishwasher. And I was like, huh? of them, unload the dishwasher. And I was like, huh? They can't unload the dishwasher. And sure enough,

the both of them together unloaded the dishwasher. And for the most part, the things got in the right places, but not all of it. And I think the lesson here is you can't expect your kids to do something that you haven't trained them to do.

You have to actually show them how to do it, train them how to do it, and then let them do it. And again, for us, sometimes, again, it's not that we make Rachel cook. She loves to cook and she's really good at it. And if I tried to cook, I would be kicked out of the kitchen, right? They all complain. So, but sometimes when we're done, you and I will just leave the kitchen and have them do the dishes.

Sometimes we'll like, you know, sometimes we all get together and clean it up together. But sometimes, you know, if it's been a tough day, it's like, all right, kids, y'all ate. Mom cooked. Pick it up. Me and Dad are going to go sit down and relax for a little bit. So that happens. I do believe in chores. And honestly, they have done studies.

Kids who have chores are less whiny and they're happier children because they learn to be self-sufficient and literally they've done these studies it's absolutely true and so these can i just say these moms who think they're great moms because they are martyrs doing everything and their kids don't have to do anything you're you're not only doing them a disservice because they become whinier and less happy and less self-sufficient, they are our worst roommates in college. They will become worse spouses. So what you're doing is you're training your kids to become better people. Do they pick up their room?

And better people to live with for other people. Can they clean a bathroom? Yes. I just had, I was going to mention something else. Oh, so when Rachel comes home on Saturdays and Sundays after the show, she's complained that if she comes into a house that's not pristine. I'm not saying... Listen, I was up at 3 a.m. and I worked all day. I'm not saying that. It's not that she comes to a messy house, but it's... I mean, the house is to my standard.

She'll complain and say, I want it to Rachel's standards. So before they come home, me and all the kids will pick up the living room by the front door and we'll do the dishes and clean the counters and sweep the floor. So when she comes in, it looks nice. So I can enter happy instead of looking at how – I mean, it literally makes me mad if I walk in. But all of them know how to do all the rooms and all the floors and all the counters to help me out. and all the floors, and all the counters to help me out. And what they know is that if they don't spend the 30, 45 minutes picking up before she comes home,

they're probably going to spend two hours picking up after she gets home. I'll make them do it after. So it's so funny because sometimes I'll literally text Sean when I get in the car and go, I'm really tired today. Please make sure the house is picked up with the kids. And this is how I imagine it. Do you all remember the book, Dr. Seuss? The Cat in the Hat. I remember at the end when the mom didn't come home and everyone's running around trying to get everything done.

It's the Cat in the Hat before I get home from Fox and Friends on the weekend. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Your teen requested a ride, but this time, not from you. So we'll have more of this conversation after this. Your teen requested a ride, but this time not from you. It's through their Uber teen account. It's an Uber account that allows your teen to request a ride under your supervision with live trip tracking and highly rated drivers. Add your teen to your Uber account today. Next question is very interesting uh rachel why do you like talking about the royals and it's a great question it is a good it is a good did you send that one in sean

did sean send that question this is from sean from wisconsin why do you like to talk about the royals okay so, so there is a gossipy part of it that, of course, you know, is kind of delicious and fun to talk about everything that's going on. And Meghan and Harry have made that extra juicy. I didn't think you'd get any juicier than Diana and Charles, but, boy, Harry and Meghan have. But you know what? I really think I enjoy talking about it because there are lessons, especially family lessons,

because the royal family is on display in a way that other families aren't. And but they're ultimately just a family. And you see a lot of dynamics playing out. I think there's a lot of what you should do and what you shouldn't do. So should you talk about your family? Probably not like the way Meghan and Harry have. You know, should you learn to handle the sort of things that go along with having in-laws in a graceful way and not blow up relationships? Yeah. I mean, so I think there's all kinds of things for you to learn on that. It's also been very fascinating with Meghan because Meghan Markle is sort of a stand-in for so many privileged, woke social justice warriors, people who are

constantly whining when they have all this privilege. First of all, the privilege of just being an American. And it has been, and she's tried to do that, you know, using oppression and racism and lobbying these attacks on her in-laws. And it's been interesting to watch her get her comeuppance. It's been delicious to see her, despite being machiavellically good at her own PR, I mean, she could give a master class in PR. She is super smart, super, you know, image-oriented and all these things. And she's put all this effort and she has all these, you know, PR people.

But in the end, it seems like not just the Brits who were offended that she, you know, has, you know, demeaned the crown and the royal family and the monarchy in general, but even Americans have seen through the phoniness. And I think it's been really great to see that maybe, maybe, just maybe, we're turning the corner on the wokeness that deep down we know it's BS. And we know that, you know, this victim card she's playing is wrong. And she's getting her come up. And so I think it's been delicious to watch. It has been delicious. So first of all, as if this is our podcast, you know, I do not like the Royals. I don't like talking about the Royals. But I will tell you there are things that do interest me. And what interests me is to this point, not that the Royals. I don't like talking about the Royals. But I will tell you, there are things that do interest me.

And what interests me is to this point, not that the Royals, but that they're wildly privileged and they play the victim. Right. Or that they use their family to make money for themselves. Meghan and Harry. Right. Right. This recent two hour car chase by the paparazzi through the city of New York, where, again, I'm shocked. I'm going to say this because I spent my whole life in Wisconsin, but I have to go to New York every day for my show. And the traffic is so horrible. There can be no high speed chase in New York and especially for two hours. The lies that they tell and they're being exposed for it.

I do hope you're right, but that's fascinating. Not because they're royals, but because they are privileged. And you see a lot of privileged people play the victim game. And it's been working. And hopefully, to your point, we're turning the corner to go, I'm sorry. I mean, you're filthy rich. You live in a mansion. you're Royals. And you made that money off of trashing your family. And so I, I'm like, I think you're bad people. And, um, a lot of people who do this, I think are bad people because there are people who really are victims. There really are people who

are struggling to make things work and, um, Megan and Harry are not. And so that they, that this thing, that this thing is that they're getting pushback is delicious, and that's the only part of their life. They're calling her, Sean, because of this fake car chase because she's trying so hard to look like she's the new reincarnation of Diana. We're calling her the Duchess of Smollett because it's a fake story. Jessie Smollett. Yeah, Jessie Smollett, the Duchess of Smollett, because it's a fake story. Jessie Smollett. Yeah, Jessie Smollett, the Duchess of Smollett.

Also, because she's gotten, her and Harry have gotten a lot of pushback on, you know, their private jet travel and going in these big, you know, big SUVs, you know, with dark windows to events. So she thought she went to go get an award recently. And in New York, a Gloria Steinem feminist, you know, award, which I'm not really sure what she's ever done for feminism. I don't know why she's getting an award for it, but that's another story. But I think she thought it would show she's of the people if she showed up in a rental car.

So she had a rental car. So now they're calling her, you know, they used to call Diana the Queen of Hearts because she won everyone's hearts. They're calling her her attempt to be like one with the people. She's the queen of hurts the car rental company by the way the they also this is where you see Harry's privilege so in England obviously Harry is a prince and is used to getting what he wants because the you know the Royals often do and so he sent and and the Royals have won a lot of battles against the paparazzi, right?

And so anyway, Meghan and Harry's lawyers fired off a letter to the paparazzi agency saying, hey, we want all the footage of your tapes that you took of the so-called car chase, probably because there was no car chase, right? But in any case, the paparazzi agency sent the most amazing response back, and here it is. It said the lawyer rejected the Sussexes' demand, and here's what they said in the letter. Quote, in America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it. Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps kings can do. Perhaps you should sit down with your client, Harry and Meghan,

and advise them that his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over their property to the crown were rejected by this country long ago. We stand by our founding fathers. What an amazing response. It's so good. Touche. We don't have to do it. We got rid of the kings and the monarchy, you know, back in the revolution. We fought a revolutionary war for it. You know, go to hell, Harry. Go to hell, Harry. So that was kind of interesting. So again, we could go on and on. Obviously, I love this

topic. That we, Rachel, could go on and on on this topic. I do. I love this topic. All right. So let's go to our next question, which is, I love this topic. Now we, Rachel, could talk about this topic. I do. I love this topic. All right. So let's go to our next question, which is, I got it here. In three years, what do you think the state of America will be? In three years? In three years. So that's a really good question. And I think it depends on what happens in 2024.

2024. If Democrats win the White House, I do believe that this really fast push to Marxism. Globalism. It's a weird, it's a Chinese style thing. But it is Marxism. Where we're seeding, the American people are seeding power and control and freedom to an elite few. I think you won't get your country back. The country that you grew up in will be far different than the country that your kids will grow up in. We'll have to fight another revolution to get it back. Yeah. And so I think that's the case.

I think if a Republican wins the presidency, and if they're smart, they can tame this advance, right, this Marxist movement. And actually to tame it, just one quick, and we talk about this a lot, but the way you tame it is you have to fix your school system. You can't train American kids to be Marxists and not think they're going to grow up to be freedom-loving conservatives. loving conservatives. They're going to be little Marxist activists. So you have to start the school system from this leftist march and bring them back to these basic principles of America. And a president can do that. And our governors can do that. And if they don't wake up and figure out the fight that they're in, I think we've lost. There's hope, but they have to move quickly. I think we've lost.

There's hope, but they have to move quickly. Yeah, I would say that most young people think like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and that's a very scary thought. Make no mistake, she says she's a self-described socialist. She is not. She is a communist. She truly is a communist. People have left her campaign. People who worked for her have left to run the Communist Party in New York City. She is a communist. There's no question about that. And this is what they are. And by the way, I mean, socialism is a step towards communism. So it's their cousins and that's the bridge to the other side. So I think you're right, Sean. And I'll tell you, a lot of people want to go, you know, you know, we have Vivek running.

Of course, DeSantis and Trump are the two probably most formidable. Going back to the earlier question about Durham, part of the reason why I mean, I see a lot of good things in DeSantis. Both you and I do see really good points about DeSantis. I love Trump'santis. I love Trump's strength. I think his record is stellar. At this point, I just feel like what happened to him was so unjust that, and that it's such an insult and a slap in the face to Americans, that they voted for this man and that there was a coup. And so there's just a part of me that says he is owed and deserved a second chance to do this right. And so my heart is with Trump

in large part also because he was wronged and we were all wrong, those of us who voted for him. And so do I think Trump can win? I think it's possible. And I think that if he did, I think he's learned a lot of lessons and he can do things right. If it ends up being DeSantis, I think he could do it too. My fear, Sean, we talk about this all the time, is, listen, Joe Biden was just in Japan. It was embarrassing. The Japanese prime minister basically had to guide. It was like he was, Joe Biden was lost on the stage. It was one. The Japanese prime minister basically had to guide.

It was like he was Joe Biden was lost on the stage. It was one of those moments. And the and Jill had already taken her place. So she couldn't reach out to him. So basically, Easter Bunny wasn't there. And the Easter Bunny wasn't there to help. There were no. So basically, the Japanese prime minister had to move him into his place because he was so disoriented.

I believe that Joe Biden is not going to make it. And I believe that Michelle Obama is going to come in, swoop in to save the day for the Democrats because she's the only person that they can put forward that I believe could could take on Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis and win. And it will be formidable because Americans are just shallow like that and want to, you know, elect the first black and she'll have all the support of the media and all the support of every institution. So I would look at this too and say just I don't criticize President Trump very often because I agree with most stuff he does.

But my criticism of him now is that he's running these ads attacking Ron DeSantis on Disney, running ads attacking Ron DeSantis on what Ron tried to do in Congress to fix Social Security and Medicare. And the ads are dishonest. And I think that to fix this country, the finances, you have to fix Social Security, Medicare, and there's ways to do it to keep the promise to people, but also, you know, make sure that the promise can be preserved for future generations. And that the President Trump would attack him on, I think, would have been some pretty ballsy moves on his part is disappointing to me. So that's what I mean. I don't just say it's so funny. Whenever we have this conversation, Sean and and I he always brings up that he doesn't like that Trump criticizes Ron on Medicare and Social Security and he'll start talking about Medicare and Social Security which of course is like

what happens to me when he talks to me about our personal finances I get really sleepy and really tired but I get what you're saying it is foundational to the finances of this country. It is. It is so boring. Can I make one other? That's what I just said. Just briefly.

No, no, no. Not boring for the podcast. I mean, boring for you. It's like of all the topics about Trump and Santa's, it's like the one that least animates me. Because it's so boring to talk about Medicare and Social Security. But I know that what you're saying is absolutely right. But it's fascinating to me how it's the number one thing. It's like you care so much about it. Well, because I care about my country.

What makes us different. I care about my country. And if you don't fix that, you can't fix your country. I know, you're right. Here's the other thing I'm going to tell you to answer this question. You asked three years. I'm really concerned about the currency. I'm concerned that we're $32 trillion in debt.

We're going to be $50 trillion in debt in 10 years from now. So at one point, people say, I don't know that I'm going to buy American debt anymore. That's the first issue. The second one is the Federal Reserve has printed $9 trillion of new money in the last 10 years. $9 trillion of new money they've put out into the economy. These two things with Joe Biden's spending has created inflation. I don't want to make your eyes gloss over it. They're starting to. I think there's real issues with the American currency.

I do believe that. Oh, I know. And so I've had to sell, Rachel. I'm a Bitcoin guy. I have bought Bitcoin. And you bought gold. And so I've had to sell Rachel. I'm a Bitcoin guy. I have bought Bitcoin. And you bought gold. And I bought gold and silver. Maybe we'll do a podcast on those two things. We should.

And the reason is. I promise not to fall asleep. The reason I've done it is it's my responsibility to feed our family. And I call it rice and beans money. So I want to make sure that I can access something outside of the U. that can make sure I can buy food for my kids. And the gold and silver is readily usable because it's been used for thousands of years. So I'm like, well, hopefully it'll be when the dollar collapses and it will three years, 10 years, we're going to have problems and currencies always collapse when you do these things to your currency.

So we'll have more of this conversation after this. Shop Cyber Monday deals now on Amazon. With up to 35% off home goods to deck their halls. Toys to stuff their stocking. And electronics like noise-canceling headphones to silent their night. Shop Amazon Cyber Monday deals now. Okay, I have a couple of quick ones to to go who is the way of shutting me up okay yeah yeah yeah no no you're right you're right you're right medicare social security yeah gold okay golden bitcoin okay who is who is more likely

we should have if i'm stuck doing podcast after podcast on the royals but our listeners love the royals our highest rated podcasts are on the Royals. No, no, no, no, no. You should want it. We haven't tried a Bitcoin one yet. Okay, well, let's try it. We're going to do a Bitcoin one and Bitcoin and gold. You have to stay awake for it.

I'm going to stay awake for it and we'll check the ratings. Okay. And then we'll report back. Okay. Who is most likely to forget one of the children's names? Me, of course. I'd say me. I would say totally me.

I'll run through every name. I'm like, what do you mean? Lucia, Margarita. Like, I can, I always forget my kids' names. I get the names wrong all the time. And I can't remember the years they were born. So if we have to fill out forms for school or at the doctor's office, I love having Paloma with me. She's like this. She remembers numbers like this. And I'm, and I'll go, Patrick, she'll get that name. She gets all the dates, and she's amazing. I start with the VTA 99, and then I go to Jack in 2000. I have to count up.

Okay. So here's a really interesting one. By the way, they'll know who the question is being directed at. Even though you get their name wrong, they'll usually respond, even though you call them by the wrong name. Sometimes. Sometimes I'm like, whatever your name is, what's your name? Okay. What advice can you offer someone dealing with a broken heart? Oh God, take that one. I will. I'm going to take that one. I think that's probably one of the most painful things to deal with. It's really hard. And I think you have to take care of yourself.

It's really hard. And I think you have to take care of yourself. In those moments that your heart is broken, the first thing you want to do is take care of yourself. One, because you're already feeling down and you need to do that. And the tendency is to not eat and not sleep. And anyone that's had that happen, it's really painful. But also, assuming that that person has now moved on and you're not going to win them back, or maybe you can win them back, the best thing to do is make yourself stronger, more appealing, more open and ready to find new love. And so I think working out, making sure

you're eating well, making sure that you're surrounded by other people that you love, all of those things. And I think it's really important to know that, you know, broken hearts do get healed. You know, this too shall pass. But you really have to recognize the space you're in and go, if I'm going to get through this, I'm going to have to take care of myself. So I was going to say, go to the grocery store and buy ice cream. And just sit and watch Netflix and eat ice cream. That's exactly the opposite of what you should do.

No, I'm kidding. I think that's good advice, and it will pass. And it's really hard. I mean, it's one of the most painful things. You'd rather go, why don't you just break my leg instead of making me go through the pain of this heartache? Because the broken leg would be less painful than the emotional pain you have from losing someone. And I do think that's, I think it's good to focus on,

I'm going to work out. Maybe I'm going to read. I'm going to also engage with my other friends. But I also think it's important to recognize you actually got to sit in it. You got to go through the pain. Yes, I agree with that. Don't try to, don't, because by going through it, you're not masking it. You're not covering it up. Feel it, right? Feel the pain of it. Feel the hardship of it. Work through it and you're going to come out much stronger and better on the other side. And maybe when you get into that next relationship, you're going to be smarter. Think about the things that were wrong in the relationship. But every relationship is not just about someone else. It's also about you too. And go,

what have I learned? What can I learn about me that will help me be better in the next relationship? And by the way, it could have been the other person, but you can learn lessons from this that will make you better in the next relationship. And so don't lose the opportunity to learn. To learn from it. I think that's true. By the way, before I met Sean, I was with somebody who ended up passing away in a car accident. And the best advice is I was really brokenhearted.

It was really a – it was traumatic. It was horrific. And, but somebody told me about grief, which, you know, broken heart is like a grief process. They said, you can't go under it. You can't go around it. You can't go over it. You have to go through it. Exactly the advice you gave, Sean.

And that's very true. You have to go through it. And you will come out the other. And that's very true. You have to go through it. And you will come out the other side. And that's the important thing. Everybody's coming out the other side. So don't get radical. You'll get through it. You'll survive.

Every other human being has had to go through this horrible pain. Now, if this was my sister, she would say, drink some water and go for a walk. She's a tough cookie. I love her. I thought you were going to say, drink some wine and go for a walk. No, she's like, drink some water and go for a walk. She's a tough cookie. I love her. I thought you were going to say, drink some wine and go for a walk. No, she's like, drink some water. Her and I always joke that when our kids are like, I'm not feeling well, just drink some water, you'll be fine. It's very like, toughen up.

Rub some dirt on it. Yeah. Okay, last question, which I think is really interesting. Have your political views changed over the years? For me, it's yes. Like big time. Big time they have. So I think, you know, I said I mentioned earlier that I majored in economics. That was a super like free trade and all that's going to make everything better. And I've totally shifted my view on on and economics and policy in general. I believe

we shouldn't do necessarily what's the most economically efficient in theory kind of thing. We need to do things that actually build up families, which are the foundation of the society. So if there are, for example, I would be open to tax incentives for families, making it easier for people to start and raise families. I'm open to all of those things. I'm open to more help in terms of family leave, especially around having a child or if you're caring for an elderly parent. I think that as a society,

we need to make accommodations for those sort of things. So economically, I've shifted to go not what is best for the bottom line of some corporation, but what is best for our society as a general and particularly what's best for families. Because if you get families right, if families are supported, virtually all, if we could get families right in formation and they stay married and kids have that support system, then basically so many of the social ills come from the disintegration of the family and for government replacing family. So that's one thing. But also in issues of foreign affairs, I have now become much more of a non-interventionist. I never believed the first thing that comes out of our government when it comes to foreign involvement. I am totally repentant on my position on the Iraq war. I

figured it out probably halfway to two-thirds into it that this was BS and that there were no weapons of mass destruction. I have no idea why we were in Iraq and not Afghanistan, where we were supposed to be. And so now my colleagues, Pete and Will, call me, I call myself the Cindy Sheehan of Fox News because I was very out with my, you know, not wanting us to be in the Ukraine war, thinking it was a boondoggle for all these, you know, the military-industrial you know, not wanting us to be in the Ukraine war, thinking it was a

boondoggle for all these, you know, the military industrial complex, something I mocked liberals for believing in before. I believe it exists and that it is driving wars in our country. They actually call me Cindy Snowden because I also want to release all the FBI files. I want to know what happened with JFK, open up the UFO stuff. So I am Cindy Snowden of Fox News, and I'm proud about it. And I think that when it comes to issues of foreign affairs, we need to put America first. Think about what is really important for the American people in terms of peace and security and focus much less on all the things that the, I think there's a warmongering class, the Kinzinger's and the Liz Cheney's and Hillary Clinton's, and it's bipartisan for sure.

And I, they're the warmonger class. And I'm a peacenik. I'm with Cindy Sheehan now. So I think- If you don't remember who Cindy Sheehan, by the way, she was the Code Pink anti-war lady during the Iraq war. Yep. And so I agree with a lot of what you just said. But on the trade thing, on tariffs, I was a free trader as well. Free trade was the best trade, is the best trade. And I think I'm still a believer in free trade. However, when you're in competition with a country that's stealing from you, that's undermining, China's not free traders. We can't do business. American companies can't do business in China. Facebook, Google, they're not in China, right?

We don't have American trading platforms, brokers and dealers in China. We can't buy Chinese farmland right next to the military sites. Like the stuff that China does, they're preparing for war. And if you stick with this old Ronald Reagan idea of free trade and that you can't put tariffs to protect your business and protect your workers from the thievery of China. Horrible mistake on our part. And Donald Trump actually made me see the light on that. I actually agree with him. He was incredibly smart and insightful and has changed the way the party thinks about this, which is remarkable. And again, he's 100% right. We're going to go to war with China. We don't make medicine here. We don't, the highest, you need magnets to detonate your nuclear weapons. We don't make the magnets here

to detonate our nuclear weapons. I mean, the stuff is unbelievable. So bring the shit home, put tariffs on China and others who don't treat us fairly. I'm all in on that. By the way, I am a China hawk. I don't want to go to war with China, but I believe that we need to be strong so we don't have to go to war with China. Though you are not an interventionist in war, you are an economic interventionist because we just did a podcast on what's happening in the Americas with China. You have to engage economically, which is the soft power, not the hard power. You need to be an influencer because if it's not you, someone's going to influence. And right now, because Joe Biden has receded, and I think it's intentional so China can advance, that is catastrophic for us because those are the allies. If a conflict happens,

they're going to be China's allies, not ours. So there's that. We've also changed a little bit on the border. We were always hawks on the border, but we were probably a little softer on the immigration border stuff. And, again, the times have changed. I mean, it's become a real problem. Especially the rise of the cartels. As the problems have gotten bigger, we have become more hawkish on the border.

Just one other thing. I had some real issues with unions. I did. And as I've gone through Congress and I get to meet a lot of people, I've come to the place where I really don't have any opposition to the trades union guys. I love them. They're fighting for better wages. What's the difference between trade unions?

Oh, you mean versus like a teacher's union? Versus the public employee unions. Okay. I don't think you should have public employee unions. I'm sorry. No place for it. If you're in the government, you work for the government, you don't need a union to protect you from the government.

Kick it out. I feel like I need to be protected from the government. But the trades guys are fighting for better wages. I disagree with how some of them try to unionize and put pressure and force people. But if a group of people want to unionize for better wages and better benefits, so be it. And again, that's a shift where Republicans were really kind of aligned with business. And I think that shifted. That's why shift where Republicans were really kind of aligned with business. And I think that shifted. That's why Republicans from if you're self-sustaining all the way up to wealthy elites, that whole base goes to Republicans. If you're relying on the government and you're an elite, right, that's the Democrat base right now.

Yeah. Well, I believe in that this is supposed to be a government formed by the people. And I think some of the Republican policies, economic policies, empowered corporations, the big guys, so much so that it has crowded out and taken away power from the little guys, but also they've taken on these elite values, whether, you know, through ESG, this woke stuff, and they are now imposing those values on the rest of us with penalties. You know, you can't work, you can't earn a living if you don't agree with this really secular, weird, Marxist, you know, elite version of how to view life. And so at this point, I would say most corporations don't share my values. I'm with small businesses.

I'm with the workers. And I, you know, I think that things have just, there's been a huge shift in America. I want to make one caveat because on tariffs, Rachel, if they're not done right, they can actually punish American businesses. Yeah. And it can incentivize businesses to leave America and go to like Mexico. And you can import all the components from China and India and assemble it in Mexico and then bring it into the U.S. Right. And there's no tariff there because it came through Mexico.

Yeah, that's not right. And if you want to manufacture it in America and you get those parts from China, you pay a tariff. So you really have to be thoughtful on how you do it. That's a great point. And it can be done, but you just can't knee-jerkly throw tariffs on it and not look at the consequences of that. So being smart is incredibly important. Well, Donald Trump in that space was doing an amazing job, and that is going to be a real strength for him moving into this election. So much so that Joe Biden has had a real problem

rolling back the tariffs on China because of the political blowback that he'll get if he doesn't. Yeah. That's how successful Donald Trump was in selling them, which is why a lot of the union guys have come to Donald Trump. Yeah. And they love him. Yeah. I remember going through a plant with you when you were in Congress, and, I mean, the welders had Trump on their, like, welding hats, and there were Trumps, just, they write his name on their welding hats

all around this factory. They love him, and he loves them. He understands who builds America and who's bearing the brunt of it and who bears the brunt of these bad policies that hurt little manufacturing towns like the one we lived in. And it goes to the point of when you're looking at what does the policy do for my people? Joe Biden so often has policies that hurt the American people. It might help the immigrant to come here to compete. We talked to Bhatia Ungar Sargan on this. It might

help the immigrant, but doesn't help the American family to compete with foreign labor that's come to the country. And it doesn't help America when you have policies that empower China to steal our equipment, to send a balloon or spy plane over America, do super eights over our silos of missiles, and then shoot it down once it's got all its intelligence it needs. Again, so Biden has completely missed the boat, which is, again, a lot of people say Trump can't win, DeSantis can't win. Joe Biden and Democrat policies have been so bad. It's not Joe Biden himself. It's the Democrat policies that he's implementing. Their policies are so devastating. I think they're going to have a really hard time winning

the next election. Unless Michelle Obama comes in to save the day. We'll see with her, you know, biceps and her menopause stories. She might be able to woo those swing voting suburban women. So let's see. All right. Well, it's been fun talking. Thanks for your questions. Keep them coming. We love them. Love the questions. Yeah. Thanks for joining us on our podcast. If you like our podcast, you can rate, review, subscribe wherever you get your podcast.

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