From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Q & A With The Duffys: President Trump & The Indictment Double Standard

Episode Date: June 10, 2023

Sean and Rachel react to the federal indictment of former President Donald Trump for the alleged mishandling of classified documents from his tenure in the Oval Office, and share their thoughts on how this could increase the likelihood of him winning the Republican primary in 2024.   Later, they take questions on who their childhood heroes were, what Rachel has planned for Sean on Father's Day weekend, and weigh in on Prince Harry's legal battle with British tabloid The Mirror.   Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, Sean. I love when we do these Q&As. They're so fun. People have such great questions. And the first question we have today is crazy timely. Someone tweeted at us this morning and said, I'm so upset about the Donald Trump document indictment. Will this hurt or help Donald's chances in 2024? I am MAGA. What do you think about that? Why don't you lay out what's happening for those? Because this just broke last night. So let's unpack it a little bit.

So Donald Trump is going to be indicted. We're going to see the charges. Something else happened earlier, though. On to, well, we can get, you're talking about Joe Biden? Yeah. We can get to that as well. Okay. But so, so, so. I think it's suspicious that this indictment happened.

Well, here's what's interesting. So, so Donald Trump, like every other president, has taken documents from the White House home. Yeah. And George Bush has done it. Bill Clinton did it. Obama has done it. They do that. And then there is conversations

between the ex-president and the archives about what belongs to the president and going to the library and what belongs to the archives, right? So it's a common, you know, dance that they do. And it takes months, if not years, to figure out who, you know, what belongs to, you know, dance that they do. And it takes months, if not years, to figure out who,

you know, what belongs to, you know, what side. Why do these presidents want to keep the documents, all of them, Obama, Bush? Is it for their libraries? I'm always kind of confused about that. Well, I think it's posterity, right? So you've been the president of the United States. You're going to have a library. You want these documents as part of the library. Your legacy. Yes. Okay. And so what's fascinating in this story is that Joe Biden, and I'm telling you things that you all know, right? We all know this. Joe Biden was accused also of having classified documents. In a garage by a Corvette, and they were Ukraine-related documents.

And the problem with that is Joe Biden's classified documents, they came from when he was a U.S. senator and when he was a vice president. Those two positions, you don't have the ability to declassify documents. Only the president does. Yes. And so, by the way, the question has become for anyone who served in the Congress, you can't get documents out of the SCIF. And if for some reason that's the classified area in which you review documents, you go in there, you review them and you leave them there and then you go back to your office. And they count the number of pages before you go in and they have to be there when you leave. accidentally taken documents out. That has happened rarely, but it's happened. But the process is every, to your point, every document is numbered, labeled, and they give you the packet of the documents, all numbered. When you give them back, and if you're missing a page, they know it. And they'll call and go, hey, you know, Senator Campos, Duffy, you didn't give us the document, you know, six pack.

Do you have it with you? That'll happen within an hour. At worst, it might happen like in a day. But like in moments later, they'll go. They'll realize. So Joe Biden had these documents for 17 years. Unbelievable. And he had the documents from his time as the vice president.

And they were found in his garage, strewn around, but also at the Biden library. That's right. And so... And that's at UPenn, the Biden Center. I'm sorry, the Biden Center. Joe Biden's homes and the Biden Penn Center wasn't raided. The FBI didn't come with machine guns

and raid his properties. Oh, no, but Donald Trump's, they did. Donald Trump is being charged. Joe Biden is not. Mike Pence had similar classified documents, has not been charged. So it seems that this is awfully political. We want to go to the most extreme example

is Hillary Clinton. Dad. 30,000 emails, many of them classified. She did not have the ability to declassify as a secretary of state. She had them in an unclassified setting, her private server. And when asked for the documents, she obstructed justice by doing what? Using a bleach bit to destroy the server and the emails. And they don't prosecute her,

but they're going to go after Donald Trump. This is about politics. And back to the point I was going to say about what happened before this indictment came out, which is finally Representative Comer was able to see the documents that the FBI had from a very credible informant laying out who Joe Biden and Hunter Biden had received

payments from. And so earlier in the day, we find out that because the information started leaking from Comer, from Nancy Maize, from Marjorie Taylor Greene, all people who were on that committee and able to view that document who said said, this credible source said, both Joe Biden and Hunter Biden received $5 million each from a Ukrainian energy company, Burisma, in order, remember that famous video where Joe Biden is bragging about firing the prosecutor in Ukraine, or telling them they better fire the prosecutor in Ukraine who was investigating Burisma. And he said, I called them. I told them you're not going to get foreign aid. Of course, this is a billion dollars of aid that Joe Biden was going to withhold as he when he was the vice

president, unless they fired this prosecutor. So Joe Biden and remember who got impeached for supposedly withholding aid from Ukraine. Yeah, Donald Trump. But, yes. And Donald Trump was telling the truth about all the corruption. Mm-hmm. And he got impeached for it. And now he's vindicated yet again. And on the same day,

he's going to get all this vindication, like, you impeached me the first time for saying Joe Biden was corrupt, for saying his son was getting, you know, kickbacks, and now him also, that the whole family was getting kickbacks from Ukraine and this corrupt situation. That all comes out in that same day. Media now, no talk about that. Everyone's talking about the fact that Donald Trump could face up to 100 years for a document, you know, problem that Joe Biden.

It's called a document disagreement. A document disagreement. We're sending him to prison. That other presidents have had in the past. We're going to talk more about both. I want to answer for you to answer her question too. I will get back to that too. But Joe Biden, think about this. So Joe Biden was asked about this yesterday, right? In a press conference. And he basically said, jokingly, where's the money, right? Where's the money? It's malarkey. It's malarkey, right? So think about this. So the Bidens had a dozen plus shell companies and there's no reason to have a shell company, right? I mean, Barack Obama doesn't have shell companies. Donald Trump, I mean,

any good business owner, you don't set up a shell company. You might have a company that's going to sell t-shirts. You might have a company that's going to sell T-shirts. You might have a company that's going to sell golf balls, a company that's going to do any kind of cleaning service. Those are legitimate companies. But you set up a shell company like the Bidens did if you want to do what, Rachel? Launder money. Launder money. That's exactly right.

And there's a lot of them too, Sean. And Joe Biden, it's alleged that said it'll take 10 years to find this money, right? So think about, they're so smart that they set up the shell companies to launder the money. But Joe Biden is so stupid that the $5 million that he made to have this prosecutor fired, he bragged about it on camera, right? That's how dumb he is. That's how we kind of know. And that is how we know.

And the problem that the FBI has is now the Congress knows about the allegation. This is not just speculation. There's a credible source that's gone to the FBI and said, this is what happened. Joe Biden made five million.

Hunter made five million. Hunter made $5 million. Just on this one deal, Sean, there's deals probably all over the place. What did the FBI do with that information? That's another issue. Did they investigate it? And for a lot of us, it can become very complicated and convoluted and shell companies and a Ukrainian energy company. For the FBI, this is really simple stuff. They do forensic audits all the time on white collar crimes. They do it really well. This is simple. This is tiddlywinks for the FBI. They just have to, if they dig in, they will see the whole picture very easily.

The question is, did they? And I would argue they did not because why would they then try so hard to hide the document first they're like we don't have the document well if we do have the document um we don't want to show it to you because we will expose sources and methods which they go to all the time and then finally they admit they have the document and they're going to show just uh uh james colmer Raskin, who is the Democrat head on the oversight committee. And then they concede and say, OK, we'll show the full committee. They're they're stonewalling the Congress because it's not just Joe Biden on the hook. It's the FBI didn't do their job because they're covering for Joe Biden and they're going to be

further exposed as a political organization, which, again, feeds us right back into prosecuting Donald Trump. Yeah, I mean, so can can Comer. I mean, that's a pretty easy thing to find out. Right. Did the FBI launch an investigation into this? What did you do? What did you do? That's pretty easy to find out. add more credibility to what Donald Trump has been saying about, for example, on what we all know, when they said that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation and the FBI knew it wasn't.

And they held on to that information. They allowed a bunch of, you know, ex-CIA and intelligence people to write this letter saying this looks like Russian disinformation. And in order to give Joe Biden a talking point in a debate that was going to happen two days later, so he could say, oh, the CIA, you know, 50 of them said blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There are so many lies. And Sean, it is so much bigger than each of these cases of corruption, the kind of distrust that Americans have in their institutions right now. I've never seen anything like it. Nobody believes anything. Nobody trusts our elections because we already know from the Hunter Biden laptop, you know, the suppression of that information with coordination between our intelligence agencies and big tech and the media

and everything they did to suppress that had the American people known about the laptop and the corruption emails that were, you know, you know, proven in the emails in that in on that laptop, Donald Trump would have won that election and they covered everything up. So people are so mad. So this goes back to this question here. This person wants to know. I'm still going to get to that. Let me say one more thing before I'm going to drag it out. This poor lady is waiting. I know. Okay.

You want me to answer the question or can I make my one? Make your one point. My one last point that I was so great that I now forgot my one last great point. Okay, you'll come back to it.

I'm sure this will spur your brain. She wants to know is what, you know, they had the trials of the rape trials and now they have. So just going back, I'm going back to Joe Biden. This is like the the raucous podcast. If the FBI actually did the investigation and the Congress won the document and they actually investigated it, what they would do is they go, OK, hey, Congress, listen, we do have the document.

Come on in. We're going to let you look at it and then we're going to brief you. And they show the document and they go, hey, listen, listen, we do have the document. Come on in. We're going to let you look at it, and then we're going to brief you. And they show the document, and they go, hey, listen, Jamie Comer, this is, I'm going to lay out what we did. This is how we investigated this. We investigated it. We followed this money trail. We interviewed people, and I'm going to lay out a case file for you

of what we did and how this was a dead end. This was bad information. They would actually do that. They're not doing that, which leads you to believe they didn't do any investigation. However, that same FBI was willing to go to the ends of the earth to investigate Donald Trump

on a fake source, the dossier on Russia collusion, and it lasted for years. And by the way, the FBI leaked out all kinds of stuff on Donald Trump to the media. And you don't see any leaks on this from the FBI to the media on Joe Biden. No leaks on Hunter Biden. They're tight lipped. So I'm going to answer. So you were so we're looking at a two tier system of government, of government, of justice. And, you know, if you're a conservative, they are coming after you. Donald Trump is sort of like the apex of everything. And, you know,

they're coming after him. They're coming after you. You will be treated differently than Democrats. No question. We've been seeing this all over the map. We're going to do more stories on that. We have a really incredible story we're going to be talking about next week related to that. But let's go with this. Will this hurt or help Donald Trump for his chances in 2024? So this is going to absolutely 100% help Donald Trump. Now, if Donald Trump had sold those documents to China for $5 million or to Russia for money or to Cuba or to anybody else, this would kill, right? He actually is having a document dispute with the federal government. By the way, the charges in New York, those are also document disputes. He didn't allegedly file paperwork correctly and they're prosecuting him for that. So I think the American people see this

as really small ball. They see this as really petty, which means they see this as political. And I know there's a lot of people who have tired of Donald Trump. They like the results of his policy, but they feel like he can't win and they feel like he's just he's getting tired. They want somebody else. Right. And I don't see a lot of people like that. I know so many people that are like, I want Donald Trump. I know a lot of those people, too. But I also see those other people. And as a sampling, that's a problem. Those people who were cooling on Donald Trump, they're pissed. Yeah, they're pissed. And they're like, because they're telling us that democracy is being threatened. But this is the real threat to democracy. This is the death of democracy.

This is the death. If you can if you can use your federal government and your laws to prosecute your political enemies, democracy is over. This is a banana republic. This is a third world nation. This is no longer the shining city on a hill. This is no longer a beacon of light. This is a time of darkness. And do you think that-

We are in darkness. Do you think that electing Donald Trump is the best revenge? And not just revenge, but in terms of actually fixing the problems that we see here at the FBI, at the DOJ, really the deep state. Because he had four years, let's be fair, it didn't happen. It didn't happen, but

he was also under investigation for four years by the FBI and the DOJ, so it made it really hard to root out the corruption. So this is the only solution is to elect Donald Trump. Because just think the stories of the politics of the FBI, whether it's going after parents who protest at a school board, they're going to go after Catholics who go to Latin mass. They're going to go after pro-lifers who are just praying outside of an abortion clinic. The stories of the partisanship at the FBI are rampant. And still with that, the FBI goes, and this is what else we're going to do. Screw you, America. We're going to indict Donald Trump. We're going to investigate. And we at the DOJ are going to

indict him. So they're giving America and conservatives the big middle finger. That's what they're doing. And so they're like, stop me. Try it. Yeah. I dare you to stop me. They're going to cover up what happened last week and they're going to cover and they're going to try and damage him going into the election or somehow take him out through this indictment. And you're saying it's not going to work.

The arrogance of the FBI will only be shut down when Donald Trump wins and is really smart about who he puts in at the FBI and the DOJ. And they absolutely take a flamethrower to the bureau and the department. OK, so I think those are helpful to Donald Trump. Helpful to Donald Trump. But boy, I would hate to be Donald Trump going through all of this. The sense of injustice would, I know, I think, I suspect, knowing what I know about him, knowing how I know him, that he is, this is going to make him fight harder. But I have to say for me, it would just, it might crush me to know that this is happening in my country. I bet over half of Americans, if they had their lives gone through with a fine-tooth comb like they have with Donald Trump,

they have turned this guy's life upside down, looking for charges. And they've come up with disputes on documents with a former president. I think if most people's lives were turned upside down, you could find better crimes than that. I mean, that's how clean Donald Trump is. Yeah, yeah, it's such a great point, Sean.

It's such a great point. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Bet MGM is an official sports betting partner of the National Hockey League and has your back all season long. From puck drop to the final shot, you're always taken care of with a sports book born in Vegas. That's a feeling you can only get with Bet MGM. And no matter your team, your favorite skater, or your style, there's something every NHL fan is going to love about BetMGM. Download the app today and discover why BetMGM is your hockey home for the season. Raise your game to the next level this year with BetMGM,

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Here's a fun one. Who is your hero? It could be a current hero, a childhood hero. Why didn't you go first? Who is your hero? Well, I'm going to talk about my childhood hero. Okay.

So, people who know me know this is true. My childhood hero was Nancy Drew. Remember the book, the series, Nancy Drew, the Heidi Boys? You probably read the Heidi Boys. A couple of them. her when I was 12 and 13 and 14, 15. And she was, of course, 18 famously in her series. And she had a convertible and she was so smart and she loved her family. She lived in this quiet little, you know, small town and she was brave and she had a cute boyfriend. But the story was really about her and her friends. And I just, to me, she embodied everything that I wanted to be when I grew up. And funny things like my first car, and I didn't piece it together. When I did, I really wanted it to be a convertible.

And when I think about it, I know it was because Nancy Drew had a convertible. I love to read those books to our kids. And it's so fun because it's a time warp of sort of the late 50s, early 60s of what America was like. Man, there's some nostalgia for the simplicity of those times, for sure. And they'll always, I'll be reading them

and she's trapped in a basement somewhere and the kids are like, why doesn't she call anyone? And I'm like, there doesn't she call anyone? And I'm like, there's no cell phones in 61, you know. So like, it's just fun to see like what no cell phones. Yeah, it's actually amazing to read the stories and realize how Americans functioned, had cars break down, get trapped in a basement, you know, whatever the the the thing that happened and you didn't have a phone and you had to figure it out yourself.

That's amazing, right? That is amazing. What would I do if I'm on a country road and my car breaks down and I can't call you to come get me? What do you do? What do I do? I don't know what I would do. I think we've lost that skill set, right? Of having to figure out. So, this was not my hero, but when I grew up, I was, I read a lot of Louis L'Amour books.

Oh, I have them all still here in our library. So, I love Louis L'Amour. I'm going to give you an audience. Who is Louis L'Amour, Sean? He's an author and an American treasure.

Another great American also loved to read Louis L'Amour. That's Ronald Reagan. That'd be Ronald Reagan. And these are Westerns, right? These are Westerns, yeah. Like old school Westerns, like the first Fast Draw.

It was always about like a cowboy and, you know, gunslinging, tough, hard working, finds love, kind of very cool. Interesting. I can't, I'm trying to picture. Series. I'm trying to picture, how old were you when you started reading that? I don't know, 7th, 8th grade I was reading those. I'm trying to picture. I'm trying to picture, how old were you when you started reading that? I don't know, seventh, eighth grade, I was reading those.

I'm trying to picture eighth grade, Sean, painting. I broke my leg. You broke your leg that year. I broke my leg in the summer that I was, I was stuck. It was hot. And I had a full cast, like from toes all the way up to like the, above the middle of my thigh. How did you break your leg again? I fell off Danny Plount's Four We Learn.

Yeah. Fell off the floor, broke your your leg and then you had a summer where you couldn't do so much so you had to read so i rode around round lake in my boat and it was that's a little tiller boat met up with ollie hansen and we cruised the lake around anyway that's that's very nancy drew too sean it was very can i'm gonna give you that you know that is actually one of the things i love about hayward when When I first went to Hayward, I got, like, I think it was called—her town was Riverside. Was it Riverside? Riverside?

Yeah, I think it was Riverview or Riverside. I think it was Riverside. It was Nancy Drew's hometown. And now I'm going to have to Google that. And your town kind of gave—because I had moved from Los Angeles to your town, and I was getting those vibes, you know, those country roads. Northern Wisconsin.

Waiting for my next, you know, mystery to happen for me to solve. You just mentioned country roads. I grew up listening to John Denver. Country roads take me. I'm going to give you an answer. I haven't looked up country roads. I'm going to answer this question in an hour.

I can't say this person was like my childhood hero or a hero, but this is someone that I saw on TV a lot that I really admired. I thought was so smart and so charismatic. So Rachel and I were... River Heights. River Heights. I'm going to tell me as soon as you... So Rachel and I would watch TV and there was someone we would frequently watch on television.

And I thought this person was amazing, funny, energetic, very faithful guy. And one day when I was running for politics, Rachel and I were going to go to D.C. And lo and behold, we were going to meet this fellow out for dinner. What were you talking about? And I was kind of like taken that I got to meet this guy for the first time because I saw him and I just thought he was great. Who is that? And his name is Raymond Arroyo.

We launched the World Over Live. Why are we talking about Raymond Arroyo? Because I don't want to say hero or like but I like. You do love Raymond. Yeah. Because he's such a great guy. Yeah, Raymond is a nice guy. Such a fun, smart guy. I'm going to tell Raymond.

I'm going to text him after this. He's going to hear this. He's going to hear that he is. Definitely text. Okay, so Summer is here. Shocked at Raymond, didn't I? Yeah, I'm like shocked, honestly. We were good friends with Raymond.

I didn't know he had that much of an impact. All right, Summer is here. Shocked at Raymond, didn't I? Yeah, I'm like shocked. Honestly, we were good friends with Raymond. I didn't know he had that much of an impact. All right. Summer is here. Kids are home. How do you handle it with five kids? That's a great question. It's actually seven kids at home. I'm sorry.

I'm not five. They said five, but it's seven. It's seven kids that we still have home. I'm not going to answer that one. Because the college one comes home. We still have six here, seven. It's seven kids that we still have home. I'm not going to answer that one. Because the college one comes home. We still have six here, seven. There's a captain of this ship that's not me. And she's going to answer his question.

I am the CEO of the home. So I love summer because, you know, there's some stress like getting up, getting out the door, getting the lunches done, getting them off to school. That's chaotic. So something really great about the summer is we don't have that kind of schedule going on. We always look forward to going to Hayward, which we're going to do in July, where it's your hometown and we have a little cabin by the lake there and we take the kids up there to water ski and have lake life. Go back to the 50s. Go back to River Heights. and have lake life. Go back to the 50s. Go back to go back to River Heights. But when they're home, like I went with so many kids, I think what people always want to what's it like?

What's a part about having nine kids is for me personally, the only thing I can control is my house. I need to have some order in order to manage all the things that happen when you have that many kids and that many things going on. And so I am a stickler about the home. I also think that teaching your kids to clean their rooms, help out in the house, do chores, help out, you know, clean out the garage, all the things that have to be done in the house, you're making them better people by teaching them these kinds of skill sets. So I've already, there are still, some of them are still in school. So Valentina's out of school. The other ones still have next week in school, but I've already been thinking about this. We've already had discussions about this, Sean. And I've said, there's going to be no one come downstairs

until the room is done. And then they can come down and have breakfast. Because what happens is once they have breakfast, they disperse and it's really hard to gather everyone together and do all the stuff. So everyone has to either clean the room at night, so it's super easy to come down for breakfast, or they're going to clean them in the morning before they come down for breakfast. And everyone is going to help clean the house. And if we all work together, we'll actually be done by probably 930. And then you have the rest of the day free. You told them last or two nights ago in family meeting, you said, we're going to have three meals a day. There's not going to be constant chaos in the kitchen because it's hard when you're constantly managing and cleaning up after

everybody. And so there's that. So a couple of things. And one thing you did do, one more thing you did. We had two dishwashers. One of the dishwashers was down. The other one was working funky. And Sean was thinking ahead to the summer. And he said, we better get those two new dishwashers in ASAP. And you did. We got the new dishwasher. You took care of that. So two things. One, Rachel was talking about the family. She just mentioned the family family meeting we have family meetings all the time and will and pete were like you do what families so they didn't believe they will and pete did not believe that we have we have family meetings at least four five times a week at least at least yeah at least if not one a day so just

by the way they're great um if you have it's like a small little enterprise that you have in your home. And family meetings are like, this is what we're doing. What are you guys doing? What are the plans? What's coming up? What topics do we have to discuss? And I mean, to get everyone together is really important. It is.

And discuss this stuff is critical. So we do family meetings. I'm just going to say that. Okay, can we just say something about family meetings? Sure. So people are constantly, we're all vocal and we're all talking over each other. So Sean would say when it got crazy, no, no, no, no, no. You have the conch.

You can talk. You have the conch. And the kids are like, what's the conch? The ones who have read the book. God, why am I not? The kids that got stuck on the island. I'm having a brain thing. Does anyone want to text me what it is?

Anyway, so, oh, my God, why is it? Okay, it's going to come to us later. It's going to come to us. Anyway, I actually bought a conch. And, by the way, our kids have read that book in school. And I'm trying to remember the name of it because I've read it too. It's not coming to me. It's like River Heights.

I'm going to have to Google. But hold on a second. So we do. Go finish your point. My point is I actually, for Father's Day one year, bought you a conch. You did. I bought you a conch. And now they hold a conch.

And then we went on vacation. And I found a conch that was from a very meaningful vacation that we all took as a family. And it was filled with, was covered with moss. And I spent probably three hours with a toothbrush brushing all the moss. So now we have two conches. The one conch she got me, you can blow into it and it makes a big brrr, like horn sound, which is a lot of fun when you have it. But the problem is Valentina's ears get really sensitive. She does not like it.

She starts to scream when you blow into the conch. So that's the family meeting. Oftentimes you do prayer time at night too, the surrounding of the family meeting. Yeah, it's prayer time

and then family meeting. Let me get back to the original point here, which was, I have a different standard of cleanliness and order than Rachel does. Lord of the flies.

Lord of the flies. Thank you. Gosh, you're sitting at home yelling at us like, Lord of the flies. Lord of the flies. Lord of the flies. Thank you. Gosh, you're sitting at home yelling at us like, Lord of the flies. Lord of the flies. Lord of the flies. But we're all forced to go to Rachel's standard

of order and cleanliness, which is somewhat of a problem. It's kind of annoying, but we do it. Another problem we have in our house because again- Because you know the rule, if mama's happy, everybody's happy. Mama ain't happy. No one's happy.

Choose on the problem we have. I like things neat and tidy. I just, I can't help it. So in our house, and again, this is a moving scale. Sometimes it's going well. Everyone's picking up their rooms and helping clean up. And then sometimes they're not doing their rooms. They're not helping pick up.

And so you got to keep it to reminder. It's an action that we're doing every day to make sure things stay in order. But the kids like to eat and graze all day long. And when you have so many of them, if they're eating all day long, your kitchen is always a mess. Yeah. And you can clean it up. And then like.

Two seconds later. 10 minutes later, someone else is making something else. And so we've kind of, and I hope this is going to work this year. You were not allowed to eat between meals. Like you were like, here's lunch, here's dinner. Maybe your mom brought you a snack, but that was it. And that's what we're going to try to employ this summer is there are three meals, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. We don't eat in between. We're all going to pick up the kitchen together after. But just this question comes with, for us, it's a lot of thought that

we put into how do we manage stuff and make it function. Yeah, we do. We have to talk a lot about these things. By the way, we're going to do an episode on the family mission statement because our family's always had a mission statement. We run this like that. And we're going to talk about that. Maybe I'll do that in the next Q&A. I'm going to bring out our mission statement, talk about how we got to it. If you're interested, ask us that question and we'll get that in. I'm going to ask that question because I think it's really important. Okay. Next question. Next question you might not like. Oh, yeah. Is this going to be a final question?

No, we have one question after this. You go with your question then. What question was that? This is a question from Sean, formerly from Wisconsin. Oh, is this your own question? Yeah. He has a question about... This is a real question for my new listener. Well, I'm a real person and I'm listening to you. You're not a facsimile. What advice do you have for that wonderful wife who wants to set up a perfect Father's Day weekend for her husband of 24 years?

Wow. No pressure. No pressure. No pressure. I fresh shirt. No fresh shirt. No fresh shirt. I'm curious. Well, I invited the in-laws. My parents are saying. Surprise.

Surprise. All right. So we're going to have a barbecue. I know. We're going to have a barbecue. We are. We're going to have steak because you love meat. I do love meat.

You love meat. We're going to have steak. Kids are all going to be on. Not all the kids, but most of the kids are going to be here all but two. Yeah. And I work that day.

Is your sister coming? My sister is coming, so she's going to come celebrate with you as well. And your dad. And my dad and some of the cousins. My dad is here, yes.

And so we're just going to have a lazy day. Sean loves to lay out by the pool. There's nothing he likes better than to lay out and get some sun, the weather. I like to sit there and I like to read a little bit. Play some music. Go water some plants. Yeah.

Check on things. I'm going to say like a lay out, like a lather myself up and lay by a pool. Like, come on. I don't do that. But I will, you know, I like to hang out. I love to lay out. Jump kids and go water plants. Yeah, that's right.

So, oh, that sounds like fun. Thank you. And barbecue. Is that sufficiently fancy enough for you? So you're like, you're going to barbecue. Actually, my dad's a good barbecuer. So you might get something for you. Pick up some tips.

Okay. Yeah. Is that enough? Sure. Should we go out to dinner too? Do you want to get a present or something? That's fine too. Yeah.

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right-size savings for full details. Next question is one you're not going to love, but it's come in and this is a real question. What do you make of the latest royal drama with Harry testifying? So I don't know if you've been following it, Sean, but Harry has. No, I have not. Harry has gone, but you can still comment on this. Harry has gone to trial with The Mirror, which is a British tabloid publication, with The Mirror, which is a British tabloid publication, saying that back in the 2000s, when they were hacking celebrity, you know, voicemails and phones, that he believes he was hacked as well. And he bases that on the fact that he had made plans many times with his friends and his girlfriend at the time then, where he knows he didn't, there's nobody else could know other than, you know,

him and the other person. And somehow the media, the tabloids, the paparazzi showed up to, you know, take pictures of him. And he claims that not only was his privacy violated, but in addition that this situation and the kind of trauma and suspicion that it derived or elicited in him was destructive to his relationships, that he was not able to trust people because he kept thinking they were the ones who divulged who did it, you know, where he was going. And of course, as you know, Sean, Princess Diana also had many of these suspicions. Many of it turned out to be true. Some people say some of it wasn't true. But in any case, he went to trial. His father, King Charles now, said, don't do this because it's been 130 years since any royal has been under oath. royal has been under oath. They thought this was a suicide kamikaze mission. You were never going to get, you know, to be able to prove this. Why are you putting yourself through this? It seems like he's some Don Quixote, you know, fighting the windmills. Like this was a quixotic, you know,

effort to, you know, tamp down the efforts of the tabloid press to look into the lives of celebrities, the tabloids say, listen, yeah, we were looking at a lot of celebrities in 2000. We've been through that already. You have no proof that we did that to you. We didn't do that to you. Where's your proof? Turns out there was no proof. And what the tabloids did in this trial was go to basically pull up the things that he said could only be known by somebody who was hacking his phone or his voicemail and say, that's not true. Look, this was in public domain. And at every turn, they were able to prove that. So Harry ended up looking like a jerk, like an idiot, like a victim. looking like a jerk, like an idiot, like a victim. And now the question is beyond the fact that,

you know, this was not a successful effort on his part and he kind of lost and kind of looked dumb in the process, putting him on the stand, people were able to see he's not that smart. And he wasn't doing a great job and wasn't, you know, the barrister or the lawyer for the other side for the mirror, you know, was trapping him at every corner. So he looked dumb. And now the question becomes, where's Meghan Markle? So he's alone there. So he's kind of, it looks like he's getting all the bad press from this, just like she sent him to the coronation alone to face the negative press that he was bound to get after everything they had done there. And people are wondering, what does a good spouse do? Doesn't a good spouse say, hey, you have been making some bad moves here. The book spare has not come out, you know, the way we want it. Yeah, we made money,

but you kind of look like a jerk in that. Then, you know, this happened. I mean, he's been making a lot of faux pas. He did that stupid Netflix thing where he was like basically like in a therapy session that was recorded and you could pay money and it really diminished his brand in many ways. So why isn't Meghan Markle stepping in and really having an intervention with him? Because she truly is the only one. That's the question people have. Where's Meghan Markle? Why isn't she helping him as he's spiraling down? I've been up all night pondering that question.

And I haven't come up with an answer. But can I, so if you think, so just think about this. So, and pull the string. I know it's a long answer, but I want to. Pull the string. So we're going back

to the 2000s. And if the mirror spied on Harry and Harry became distraught and from that distress all of a sudden to make, started to make

certain decisions and you play that out, it brought him to marrying Meghan and then caused him to then write books and articles and do Netflix specials, which has destroyed his relationship with the royal family. His life is a mess.

And what is the price on Harry's messy life? It's like multiple millions of dollars that this magazine, this rag, could be responsible for, all because they spied on him. Interesting. So, you know what I thought about when you said this? It's so, you know that country song, God bless the broken road that led me to you. So he actually should be grateful to the mirror for all the crazy things

that happened, all the suspicion, the breakdown of his relationship. By the way, I think her name is Caroline, the ex-girlfriend who was brought into this trial because she's now married and happily married with kids. She's like, thank God I got rid of him. Well, you know, he claims that there are friendships and romantic relationships that didn't develop because of the suspicion and trauma that was caused by the paparazzi. And, of course, all that related to his mom's death from the paparazzi. So, but in all of this brokenness, he should be happy because it led him to Megan, who he says is the love of his life. So maybe he should stop whining about the past, start embracing what his life is now. He lives an amazing life. He's still making himself the victim. He's miserable. I'm sorry. No, he's not.

Because of her, I get it. An amazing life. No, he's not. He's fighting with his family. He's got a wife that is a complete dragon. And, you know, so you have money. Money, it does not mean an amazing life. I know, I know, I know. So he has money and a fat house. He has a couple of kids and servants. And he knows Oprah. Great, good for you.

He's a miserable man. The things, we talk about what makes you happy, the things that matter in life. He has none of them. Except if he was grateful, Sean, for the things that he does have. This is why we talk about the world. So many human lessons in their lives for us to learn. If he could say, you know, you call her the dragon, Meghan Markle. Fair enough. I have my issues with Meghan Markle. But he loves her and he thinks she's his soulmate. And as twisted as

it is and as much as he's taking she has taken him away from his family and in many ways you know ruptured you know these family bonds nonetheless he has chosen her and it could have been a very beautiful romantic story I choose her I choose Montecito I choose California and if he was grateful for what he had and stopped living in the past and stopped feeling sorry for himself, because for as bad as you project it, Sean, there are people in life who have far more terrible things happen to them, and they still learn to go, you know what? This is the cross that I've been given, and I'm going to use this pain, this suffering, this cross

to make me a better person, to learn something from it. And all that he has learned to do is whine and whine. Thus, we come back to the question of Meghan Markle. Will Meghan Markle initiate, why doesn't she initiate an intervention,

save her husband, and by the way, save her brand while she's at it? Listen, he's a self-centered little... So again, he's angry that they hacked his phone and now he's in a very public lawsuit. In the 2000s, by the way. Right. And he was in New York and basically said, I was chased, high-speed chased for a couple of hours um and anyone who's had a sadly drive through New York knows there's no there are no high-speed chasings in that traffic for two hours and um it was a lie that was a lie um they're he's like they're they're press hounds they're attention seekers um which may help them make money they're They're charlatans.

And I think the whole thing is sad. I think it's disgusting. And I know we talk about them because of their royal connections and their dysfunction. But all of it is actually gross. They're both gross people. And now you mentioned he's exposed himself as being a dumb, gross person.

Yeah. So he's definitely, I'll just end it on this. I think that the royal brand that they had, that they were trying to cultivate, that were sort of independent, but with this gleam of royalty around us, it's all kind of falling apart. The shine is off. It will be interesting to see Meghan Markle, who is a master, master PR person for herself. Is she distancing herself? Is the fact that she's allowing him to do this, is this about her distancing herself from him, moving on, trying to create a new thing for herself, perhaps a political future, perhaps a future in Hollywood, some other thing. But if you saw yourself as a unit, a true marital unit where what happens to

you happens to me, that's how I feel about you, she would be by his side at all times, including for the coronation, even if she was going to get booed at. She would have, you know, if not prevented him from doing this trial, been by his side throughout the trial. All of these really bad things that have been happening to him in the last six months, he's had to do alone. I think it's curious and I think that's what people are interested in. Is Meghan Markle like America? Are they moving on? Meghan Markle moving on from Harry? Yeah, that's what I wonder too. That's what I'm getting at. And America moving on from freedom, democracy, black justice under the law. Both of them may be moving on. And maybe the future for Meghan Markle is brighter without Harry, but the future for America without freedom, democracy, and justice for everybody under the law is complete darkness.

So you're bringing this back to full circle. I'm coming back to the things that really matter. No, no, no, it's fair enough. Listen, it does feel frivolous. Like how I did that? No, no, I actually,'s fair enough. Listen, it does feel frivolous topic in the context of what we are going through, which is right now, as you rightly said, Sean, we have two tiers of justice. We are right now, this week, not just witnessing the fact that our president, our current president, we now know, and I'm pretty certain this is pretty damning stuff, we now are beginning to get the proof that we've always known, that he is compromised and corrupt and taking money from foreign governments.

But on top of that, and more importantly, our system of government, our system of justice, it's the death of democracy. It's exactly what you said. No, we only have allegations. We have no proof. Allegations, no proof. To get proof, the FBI has to do their job. Now, if they won't, James Comer and the committee will try to investigate. And it's really hard for them to, they don't have the skill sets. They don't have the staff. They don't have the experience to do these kind of forensic audits of a complex

scheme and structure that Joe and Hunter set up to hide the money. Can the media do it, Sean? Because I can't think of a more important story. The media can't get the documents themselves. The Congress can get banks to give them documents and records. The FBI can as well. The media can't do that. So it's going to be a slog. And this is my prediction on this. So you saw with, and I just say use history as a guide, you saw with Russia collusion, it was Russia collusion every single day. And it was used to take down Donald Trump, right? And then after we find out, oh, that was all fraudulent. It wasn't true. It was a hoax.

And the media is like, well, yeah, I guess it wasn't true, but it served the purpose. Donald Trump's now not the president. What they're going to do with this is they're going, the media is like, well, yeah, I guess it wasn't true, but it served the purpose. Donald Trump's now not the president. What they're going to do with this is they're going, the media stonewalls and protects the president, protects, protects. One day the story will come out about how the, maybe it was the, I don't think we'll get it while he's president. I hope we do, but I'm not sure we will. Maybe they'll report it when it's the former president actually took bribe money when he was the vice president and got rich with his son and sold the American people out.

They'll be like, yeah, I guess we missed that story. We should have covered it when the American people had a choice to kick Joe Biden out of office. But I guess we missed that one. That's what they're going to do. I have two questions for you. First of all, if they took $5 million each from Ukraine, you can damn well bet that what we think happened in China happened. That is a serious, serious issue when we are combating right now. They are our greatest enemy, our greatest threat. If our president is compromised to Ukraine, which is bad enough because we're sending a gazillion dollars over there and destabilizing Europe and risking nuclear war with Russia over this. But China is even worse. Here's my next question. If the FBI were to investigate and able to confirm that this happened, what does the Congress do? This is treason. This is impeachment, right? Go on. Yes. He would be impeached. But think about this. So Burisma pays the Bidens, if true,

$5 million each. Who in Ukraine knows that? I don't know. But does Zelensky know that? What other ministers know this? And Joe Biden knows who knows. And so what is the payoff to keep them silent? A hundred and twenty plus billion dollars that has gone to Ukraine to help them fight that war. And by the way, speaking of audits, there's no audits or accounting about how the money's being spent. So you don't know if it's going into Zelensky's pocket. Who's getting the money? Who's getting rich off of American tax dollars that are going to maybe cover up Joe Biden's $5 million payout by Burisma? You're paying $120 billion so Joe Biden can hide his $5 million of scam, crooked money that he got. He's a crooked old man. I'm

sorry. He's a crooked, old, partisan hack of a man. It's disgusting. We deserve better than that. Yeah. No, you know what, Sean? What you just said is so true. It's so infuriating. It makes me so angry. And I think that kind of anger, the more this starts, we start to process because every every time chances? And it is without a doubt, I believe that he will become the Republican nominee. And if there's not cheating, I believe that he will become the next president. Our founders believe that our democracy can only succeed if there were good moral men who ran it. And you see not morality. You see rot because a good moral FBI in DOJ would say, you know what? There's there. Yeah. Could we charge Donald Trump? Could we charge Joe Biden and Mike Pence and Hillary Clinton? We're actually not going to do that. For the documents. For the documents. That's right. We could do we could make these charges, but.

We have to do it to all of them or none of them. The better play here for just peace and tranquility and an appearance of being nonpartisan, we're not going to do it. But if you are a partisan hack, you don't have morals. You don't have values. You don't love the democracy and love the country. You will use that power for political ends, which is what they're doing. Or to not go after Joe Biden for what is so obviously the job of the FBI. No one gets prosecuted for this. Nobody. It's a dispute. No, no. But I'm talking about the I'm talking about the five million dollars.

But in the documents, should Joe Biden be prosecuted? No. Should Hillary Clinton be prosecuted? Actually, yes, she should have.

Should Mike Pence and Joe Biden be prosecuted? I mean, Donald Trump? No, they shouldn't.

Raw power at the FBI and DOJ used for politics. That's it. And so we're going to see

this play out, but you're going to see, and by the way, if America doesn't rear her beautiful head and squash this corruption, the country's gone. It is, we're going to fall into darkness.

Yeah, we always, every time we say, this is the most important election. This light, this light, this light, this America, if that dims and fades, that light fades everywhere. It'll be a long time of darkness. That's how, that's how important this issue is. And I'm not being dramatic. I mean, this is critical to how we're going to live in the future, what it means to live in this country and in democracy. What does freedom look like? What does justice look like? Wow. Crazy. Sorry for being so... Anyway. I really don't even want to continue with my day. Crazy times.

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