From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Q & A With The Duffys: Trading Screen Time For Family Time

Episode Date: May 13, 2023

How do the Duffys manage to keep their children off of social media and focus on the family? Sean and Rachel discuss how they handle technology in their house, why they keep their kids off of social media, and why it is important to stay off of your phone in a relationship. Later, they take questions on how their appearances on reality television impacted their professional careers, and what their favorite home-cooked meals are.  Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Your teen requested a ride, but this time, not from you. It's through their Uber Teen account. It's an Uber account that allows your teen to request a ride under your supervision with live trip tracking and highly rated drivers. Add your teen to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Hey Sean, it's so great to be back at our kitchen table. And you know, we love our, our third episode of the week, which is all of your questions for Sean and I, and a lot of people want to ask us advice on things or just want to make comments. And so we have a whole list of them and we're going to get

right to it. So the first question I have, they want to know how did being on reality TV help or not help your professional life? So, Sean, I think we should start with you because you're the first one to sort of see how reality TV affected our professional lives when you made that run for Congress. Well, sure. So, I see. It's a great question. So, when I finished up reality TV, and about a year, year and a half later, I graduated from law school. But in that time, I had done a special. You and I were dating. At the end of law school,

we got married and I passed the bar. And what I found was interesting was as I was a young lawyer in rural Wisconsin trying to get work, a lot of cases are given out by judges who the county has to pay for people who are indigent and also those who are getting public defenders. So people who don't have money. People who don't have money. That's right. And so I was getting a lot of cases because a lot of the secretaries in the judge's office that actually are the ones that hand out the cases knew who I was from reality TV. actually the ones that hand out the cases knew who I was from reality TV. And there was a little more generosity in the cases that I got as a new lawyer. And I was traveling to five or six counties around our home of Sawyer County at the time. So it was helpful in getting work, especially

work that I wasn't drumming up, but it was coming from the court itself. And then I think when I ran for Congress, some ads were running against me, if you remember, Rachel, saying, I'm just a Hollywood lumberjack. I did lumberjack sports and I did lumberjack commercials. And they're like, Sean Duffy's a Hollywood lumberjack. He's a Hollywood guy. And they would play some clips from the real world. And the problem that the Democrats had when they did that to me was twofold. Because first, I was actually doing lumberjack sports. It was me log rolling, me chopping, me climbing trees.

So I couldn't be fake. There was not a stunt double. And so people are like, what do you mean he's Hollywood? He's a lumberjack. But on the flip side, when they were saying I did reality TV, those who had watched the real world were like, oh yeah. Oh, I remember he was on the real. Yeah, he was a nice guy. He was a lumberjack on the real world. You saw it with Donald Trump as well, whether it was good or bad, but people felt like they knew who Donald Trump was to a greater extent than you and me off reality TV because he was in their living room. And when you sit in someone's living room with The Apprentice, even though you're on television, there's a feeling that you have a relationship with that person. And you know that person. You're intimate with that person. It's strange, person it's strange

but it's true that's why someone will come up to you rachel on the street like rachel how are you i you remember when you said this or you did that they you you've never met them before but they feel like they know you and in politics that's really wonderful because you have a relationship with part of the part of the voting public because you were in their living room sharing yourself with them. And so, yeah, I think. Yeah, it's not like, Sean, it's not like an actor. It's not like you're Brad Pitt and you're this like, you know, bigger than life person

or you're Tom Cruise. It's like you're on reality TV. They're seeing you, you know, before you go to bed, they see you as you're eating cereal in the morning. They see you arguing with your roommates or talking to your parents. So it's a different kind. You're a celebrity, but it's a totally different kind of celebrity because it's a celebrity because people know you and you're talking about your life. You're not playing a character.

Well, you're not acting. So, yeah, you wake up with bedhead. They see it. You walk around in your boxers. They see it. You walk around in your boxers, they see. I mean, there's a lot of familiarity that comes from reality TV. People get to see your best moments and your worst moments. And in politics, that's helpful. No, but I will say, Rachel, I mean, from my perspective, and I want to get your take too, there are some embarrassing things that you do, and those can be used on reality TV, and those clips air over, and they'll try to replay them and repost them.

The benefit, however, is with the popularity of social media, a lot of people, not just reality TV folks, but everyone is putting up stupid stuff or they're recorded doing stupid stuff. And the internet is full of people making not the greatest choices. But when we did the real world, that was the only outlet. There wasn't a Facebook or an Instagram, a Snapchat. Those didn't exist. There was no social media. It was only really MTV. Yeah, that's a good point. You know, it's interesting because Sean is the first person, this is his claim to fame. Your first claim to fame is we're the first reality TV couple that's gotten married. We've been married the longest than any other reality couple. We're the most fertile from any other reality TV couple. We have the first reality TV child. Yep. Yeah. It was not Kanye and Kim Kardashian. It was Evita Duffy. It was not their, what is it,

Northwest, I think was the first baby's name. It was Evita Duffy. But also, you were the first person to come from out of reality TV and onto national politics. Donald Trump is only the second. And I remember you telling me Sean that when you went to the Oval Office once and you were talking with Donald Trump and you mentioned that to him he did not like that story because he doesn't he doesn't like to be second to anybody he didn't like that story also we were on Air Force One flying to Duluth Minnesota for a rally that he was doing and on the plane I'm like this it's obviously right next to my district, which was in Superior. That's the Twin Ports. And we were talking about Minnesota and Wisconsin. And he had asked about my district that we were flying over at that time

and how he did. And I said, listen, you did really well, Mr. President. You almost did as well as I did. And he didn't take kindly to that either. He was kind of offended that he didn't do better than me in my own district where people actually know me better than him. But that's also why he's like, and I don't want America to be second either. I want America to be first. I want the American people to be first. And it can be a pretty great trait. So tell me, how did reality TV affect you in your career? Well, you know, I didn't plan on going into television.

And after I did The Real World, which, you know, sort of blew up in the third season of The Real World, which was my season. Barbara Walters and her producers sort of were putting together, they were in this, there was this new show called The View. And it had been on for a little while and they wanted to replace one of their young, the person who was sort of cast as the young person. And they were trying to get rid of her and put someone else in. And I was one of the people that Barbara Walters, she had me come out and meet with her. And I auditioned for the show and I almost got the show. I was in the finals. It was between myself and Lisa Ling.

And sort of that audition process, in addition to the real world, being part of The View because they had me come back and fill in other times. I've probably done it fill in other times. I've probably done it like 25 different times. So doing that has really helped put me on the trajectory in terms of my TV career, which took a huge, long hiatus because of all the kids we had.

And then I kind of came back and ended up at Fox. But yeah, I mean, it totally changed. I had no intention of going into reality TV. I thought I was going to become a diplomat. I had studied economics and international affairs for my grad school work. And in the middle of that, I did the real world and realized that there was this other world. And because I did it and Barbara called, it put me on that path.

So that's how it's changed my life. And of course, the most important thing is I ended up meeting you, Sean, and the rest is history. That's the most important thing I had coming out of reality TV was you also. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Breaking news coming in from Bet365,

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Learn more about all that UCC has to offer at ucc.on.ca. So that's Reality TV and the Duffies and our careers. Let's go to another question that we had come in, Rachel. It's about cell phones and cell phone use and social media use and how we try to navigate that ourselves. But the question was really about how do you manage cell phone use in your kids? And I think this kind of can apply to if you have kids in your life that are of the age of cell phones and social media. But also how do we try to manage our own cell phone use? So what's your take on that question? So you and I have had a real journey on this question. So when cell phones became a thing,

we weren't, by the way, there were no cell phones when Sean and I were dating, so that was not part of our dating life. When we had kids, a lot of— That's how old we are. Wow. That's how old we are, I know. That's how long we've been married. But we had the question of when— a lot of people were letting their kids have cell phones when their kids were in grade school,

because I think a lot of people at that time— Ibita is 20-some years 20 some years old 23 years old and so a lot of people didn't understand the ramifications the long-term psychological um social ramifications of cell phones a lot of people were having them in grade school we never let our kids have them in grade school but when evita was in was she in junior high or ninth grade sean i think she was a freshman. Maybe ninth. No, because remember, because she started the new school halfway through her eighth grade. So I think it was her freshman year.

She was in ninth grade. So we let her have it in ninth grade. And then we let the two next children have phones. And by the fourth, all the evidence was clear, both both anecdotally in our own life and every all the studies that were coming out. And we realized just how harmful these phones are to family connection, to human connection, to self-esteem, to all of it. And so the child number four is now a freshman and does not have a phone and will not have a phone as far as I'm concerned until maybe until she starts driving and it will be like one of those flip phones. So we've just really done we've done an about face on this, Sean. I mean, we're just like, no, we're not going to put this in the hands of our children anymore. We're done. We've evolved, as some might say.

We've evolved. We've evolved. And just I'm going to do a little side note here because when you have so many kids, sometimes you forget their names. And sometimes you don't know what number comes in what place. So Rachel just said for the fourth child, the fourth child, I've said no more. But the truth is that's actually the fifth child. The fifth child. This is the one who got the brunt of our knowledge in cell phones. Yeah. Think about people who only have two kids. They never get any do-overs. It took us the fifth child to get it right. Can I say this? It took me to the

sixth child to figure out exactly how I wanted childbirth to go. And so six, seven, eight, and nine were perfect. That's actually true. That's actually true. Childbirth was good for the last three. It took you six times to figure out what I wanted from you during childbirth. If you were getting what you wanted, I was great in childbirth. I know. But if you didn't get what you wanted, I was great in childbirth. But if you didn't get

what you want, it was disastrous. You had a lot of first, second, third, fourth. But here, but I think this is an interesting point that we talked about when we dated, we didn't have cell phones and cell phones come on the scene. And there's, as you mentioned, there's, there's no information, there's no data. And so it's kind of like when you read about, you know, when could someone drive back in the 40s? Well, when your dad said you're old enough and responsible enough to drive. And with cell phones, it's kind of the same thing. It's like, well, when do you get your kid a cell phone? It's like when they need it and they're responsible enough. And so the first couple, they were like freshman years of high school.

couple they were like freshman years of of of of high school the first three actually were in that time frame the the the fourth one we got him a cell phone earlier than that and by the way i think he's pretty well um he he manages his cell phone probably better than others our fourth our fourth child and he got it late in eighth grade got it to for him early sean was because he was in hockey and we if he needed to call us if we forgot him, which happened occasionally. That did happen. But here's what's interesting. I think this is not an easy decision. So the problems that we have with the fifth child is she's a freshman.

She doesn't have a phone. But we send our kids to a smaller Catholic school, and a lot of the parents and their kids don't allow their kids to have cell phones. But I think for most families, the whole social sphere of your young children are on social media. We used to call each other and then we used to text each other. Well, they don't do either of those things. They're all on social media communicating. And if you're not on social media, and usually you're not on social media if you don't have a phone, you're completely out of the loop and you can't engage with your classmates and your friends outside of school. And so it creates some issues. It's okay for our

fifth one because again, she doesn't have a whole social sphere where they're all on phones and social media. But what we have done, and I mentioned this in the past, which is we do have a family computer and it's in the office, it's on the first floor. It's like, so it's not right in the kitchen, but she can access some social media. We don't let her allow all of it. We had a problem recently

where she got an account on one of the social media sites. I don't know if you want to say that or we just don't share that. But then we had to go after her and go, listen, take that one down. You're not allowed on that one. What we found sometimes, though, is we think she's upstairs doing homework and all of a sudden she's in the office on social media on the computer. And we've had to kind of put a clamp on that.

But the beauty of it is we know where she's at. She can't wake up to it. She can't go to bed with it because it's downstairs in our little office with the computer there. And so there's far more controls on social media. But even with that, I mean, like the way we found out that she had that account was through an older sibling who saw it. And I think by and large, a lot of parents, and we're guilty of this. I mean, I'm like the, I'm so tech challenged. I, you know, can barely work my Twitter account. And, but our kids, the kids are so much more advanced.

And so our daughter Evita just had an article out in the Federalist, if you get a chance, it's really good, on AI and Snapchat. You know, most parents don't have Snapchat. And she sort of did a little bit of a dive into what's going on with AI and Snapchat. And it's just really scary. I mean, the AI, the artificial intelligence in many ways is becoming another parent. So young people have a problem that they might normally go and ask their parent about, like, I'm struggling with this. They're now going to their phones and saying, I'm struggling with this. phones and saying, I'm struggling with this. And the answer that comes back is a programmed, you know, answer that I guarantee people watching, you know, listening to this show would not agree with. So if you say, I'm, I'm confused about my gender, it's going to tell

you that you should look into, you know, you know, that gender is fluid and you should look into potentially your transgender. I mean, it's, it really leads kids down this other path. And in a lot of ways, it's become another parent to kids who Google or look for answers from these social media platforms. And now with artificial intelligence, it's even scarier. So I think that is a frightening new frontier. But I also think it's important to talk about even our own social media use, Rachel, and how we manage it. And so, again, I do think people are more detached. People are more isolated. It's more depressing because it's not real. And you mentioned that AI, that partner you have through this artificial intelligence isn't real and it's not fulfilling.

But all of us are pulled into our phones. Our work takes us into our phones, our families, our communication, like everything is in the phone and it does pull us away. And so your job is to make sure that you're update, you're up to date on all the information. You got to know the news and what people are saying and what the perspectives are. That's your job. And one of the problems we had is when we would go to bed at night, sometimes, and that's, we have a lot of kids and sometimes that's the only time that you have down and free to kind of get on and relax and look at what's happening in the news. Well, we got a little. We've had fights about this.

We have. Because Sean will be like, you're on your phone. And I'm like, I know I haven't had a chance to catch up. A lot of my news I get from Twitter, articles that I read and download and so forth. And I try to tell Sean that he feels, you know, obviously like, you know, a little bit neglected is the word. And I let Sean know that there's no one in the whole world I'd rather scroll through my Twitter next to than Sean Duffy. But that doesn't seem to satisfy his need for time. And sometimes when I get really mad, I'm like, fine, you go snuggle with Twitter.

Go snuggle with your phone. Yeah. Sometimes when I get really mad, I'm like, fine, you go snuggle with Twitter. Go snuggle with your phone. That's what he's saying. Yeah. And sometimes I just want to snuggle with my phone, and that's not right, because I have a human being laying right next to me. And it is a good reminder that that is what we, you know, and that is, I think, the struggle with AI. And Sean, we've been talking about wanting to do a podcast on just dedicated just to artificial intelligence. But we need to have theologians. We need to have ethicists on the show with us, because I think we're moving into a really dangerous, you know, transhumanist new world. And there are people out there who do not share the values that we all share that truly want that world for us, that don't care whether

that connection is with somebody who has a soul us, that don't care whether that connection is with somebody who has a soul. Maybe they don't even believe we have a soul. And I think it's going to present even more challenges to young people who are growing up, you know, not knowing what it's like to be in an unplugged world or have truly authentic human connection. Because as you see, a lot of kids will be in the same room with each other and still text each other instead of talking to each other. It's really a troubling new development.

They're sitting on chairs and couches in the same room and they're not looking at each other, talking, joking, like most kids do. They're on their phones texting or they'll take a picture to make it look like it's fun and send that out like they're having a blast. But it not real it was all it was all staged but i do think we always talk about how we have always felt like our at least for me and i know you've said you felt i felt like my whole high school years were me scheming to go out we trying to find ways to get out and go hang

out with my friends and you know you know, you know, it could be because my, our kids have like nine, you know, there's nine siblings, right? So maybe there's a lot of, you know, social going on anyway with them in the house, but I just don't feel the same kind of, I don't know, like it was a necessity for me. Like I was, it was constantly on my mind. How do I get out? I got to convince my mom. I got to go out. I got to go meet my friends. I got to get out of the house. I got to socialize. And I just don't feel the same urgency for socialization from our kids. And I think that's part of their generation. But can I tell you, I think what happens, these technologies have perfected trying to get your attention, trying to get you to engage with it. And now what's happened is

we feel like it's necessary that we're on these platforms, that we're engaging with our work, and all of those things, again, take us away. And at some point we have to make conscious decisions. We have to be thoughtful about these issues and say, you know what? I don't have to be on all the time. I don't have to be responsive to my job 24, seven, seven days a week. I don't have to. And if you think about it and are conscious about it and make decisions that puts you back in the realm of real people and real relationships and real conversations, I think that's what's really important. And when we were more conscious about, because we don't have that, we both have jobs and families. And at one point we had to go,

hey, listen, we've got to find different time for these things because this is the only time we have together right now. And if we didn't talk about that and think about it, all of a sudden, our relationship then suffers because it's being consumed by something that's not as important, which is Twitter or the information flow off of Twitter. And so I think we all have to be thinking through how we use our time and where we put our time and at what time do we get on social? What time do we give to our families and our loved ones? So I think that's our take on that. It is a constant struggle for me. It is a constant, constant struggle for me. And something I constantly have to think about. That's our take on that. It is a constant struggle for me. It is a constant. Oh, it is. Constant struggle for me. And something I constantly have to think about.

That's why you're so well-informed, though, Rachel. But Sean is great at reminding me. Oh, I do. When I'm too much on my Twitter. It's a fight. Literally, it is one of the fights that we get in because of. And again, we're thoughtful about it, and we're still fighting about it. But you've been good.

You've been good trying to go, okay, yeah, yeah, no, you're right. That's not. Imagine being 16 and not having this sort of discipline or even somebody. Totally. I mean, it's really hard. Okay, so here's a question I got. What are you reading or what is the last book you read? I'll start.

So I'm going to divide it out because I read nightly to my kids. So with Patrick and Margarita, we're reading The Secret Garden by Francis Hodgson Burnett, which I love is an amazing book on so many levels. I really believe in the power of reading. I did an interview once, Sean, when I, on Fox Nation. I had a mom show, and I interviewed a woman who wrote all about just the psychological and spiritual benefits of reading with your children. It really was amazing. I believe it was called The Golden Hour. It was a great book. There's all kinds of data, but, of course, you can just feel it when you bond with your kids and you read at night.

We really look forward to that. And this book, it's such a great book. I am one of those people that has like three or four different books that I'm reading at the same time. So one of them that I'm reading is Live Not by Lies by Rod Dreyer, which is a manual for Christian dissidents. is Live Not by Lies by Rod Dreyer, which is a manual for Christian dissidents. I'm starting a book by Lian Ji because Ji Van Fleet recommended a book called Blood Letters by Lian Ji.

It's the untold story of Lin Zhao, a martyr of Mao's China. And then we had this podcast, Sean, a couple weeks ago, a week or so ago, it's called It's Theology of the Home, and this is the At the Sea edition, which I love as well. So those are the three books that I'm, or the four books that I'm in the middle of right now. See, I can't do that, right? Reading four books at the same time is crazy. I know, it's terrible. I don't recommend my whole style of reading. So here's, I love to read.

And I oftentimes find only when I go on vacation do I think about bringing a book and reading it. And I enjoy that. But I find it hard in my everyday life to pick up a book and take time to read. And it's so important. I find that we're reading articles and trying to get up on the news pieces. Yeah. And that's time consuming, but I

don't think it's as enjoyable as, um, as actually sitting down with a good book. And I, that's one thing I want to, I want to change maybe next year on January 1st, that'll be my new year's resolution. You don't have to wait. You could start this summer. Fine. All right. I'll start in the summer. So here's, so right now, um, I, I, I loved, uh, David McCullough's book on the Wright brothers. I thought it was flipping fascinating. I loved it. Didn't know the whole story. It's an amazing book about the Wright brothers and how they actually beat government. These two bike mechanics beat government, um, and government funding to get man in the air. And so David McAuliffe also wrote a

book called the great bridge. It's about the Brooklyn bridge. I just, I bought it. Someone said it's another great book by him. And I just started, I'm like, I'm like through the first chapter. So I just started reading that. Um, and again, I've, I've had the book for three weeks and I've, I've got to the first chapter. That's how, again, that's my problem with books. But can I say something, Sean? Because we are coming into summer. And I think, you know, hopefully this is a time that people can settle down. I do think, you know, we're just talking about tech

and how tech, it doesn't just zap our time. It's actually changing our brains. So, you know, maybe 20 years ago, we might not have had as much trouble concentrating and and and reading for long periods of time. People's attention spans are really changing. And so I think retraining your brain to read books instead of tweets or even articles is really important to follow that story. And I also say, you know, I talked a little bit about, you know, the secret garden and reading with the kids. You and I talk a lot about how important it is to expose your kids to great literature.

We have the benefit that our kids are in a great books classical academy where they're getting exposed to the most amazing literature of Western civilization. But even still on their downtime, you know, getting a good book. And if your kids are in a public school, they're probably not getting that the good stuff. Right. And the summer is a great time online. You can find really great books. time online you can find really great books um i know bill bennett had an a whole book but he also has articles with sort of the essentials of what your child should know and read um the classics on what those book titles are and you can order them you know before the summer starts or just commit to you know one or two books that you think have good values and good messages and

and also you'll be surprised. I mean, Margarita's in third grade, Patrick's in first grade. And, you know, this story is, you know, you know, there's some Yorkshire accents in it and there's, you know, a lot of language that is not contemporary and yet they're following it along. I think you'll be amazed at how much deeper and broader and, you know, your kids can read than you think what their minds can handle. We don't have to dumb everything down for them. And so I think the summer is a great time to have a reading list with your kids, read along with them or just assign them some books because I think that's a good thing to do. And what we do on occasion in our house, and we don't get a whole lot of pushback on it at all,

is we'll do a reading hour where everyone grabbed their book and let's sit down and read. And when we do it, actually the kids are all into it because they actually like to read as well. And so in your family, if you're like, you know what? I want my kids to start to read more. Maybe we're going to do a half an hour reading hour where we'll sit in the living room

and we're all going to grab our book and we're going to read. And I think that's a perfect example for your children. Or even if it's with, you know, you're dating someone. It's like, you know what, maybe we'll sit and drink coffee and let's do reading hour. And maybe we'll share, you know, what's happening in our books with each other as part of our, you know, morning coffee conversation.

I think there's a lot of information flow and there's a lot of bonding, even that can happen silently as people sit down and read. Rachel, I know- That's very true. We have to go in a little bit, but I want to get to one last question before I actually have to run.

And the question is, what is your favorite type of dinner night at our house? And I'm going to take this question. I was thinking about you and I dinner night at our house. We could do, but we could take it to our family dinner night, but take it wherever you want. Italian food and we loved this zucchini Italian pizza that doesn't sound like very, that doesn't sound like it'd be really good zucchini pizza, but it was amazing. I tracked down the recipe and actually, um, I shared it with, with, uh, my, my co, my co-host, my colleague, Steve Ducey, who put it into his latest cookbook. Um, so that's that, but when we have a really special occasion,

who put it into his latest cookbook. So that's that. But when we have a really special occasion, kids often ask for that or they ask for tacos, which you can never go wrong. By the way, on the pizza night— I make them like street tacos, by the way. They're really good. But on the pizza night, we actually—

there's a lot of kid participation in making the pizza. And there's an enjoyment—they're not just eating it, which, by the way, I don't— zucchini, like, give me a break. I don't like zucchini. The zucchini pizza is fantastic. You're right. But there's, there's, there's a lot of participation, not just in the making, but then in the eating. You're right. And sometimes we have a little, a little bar where all the kids will sit around. There's not enough room for all of them, but they might kind of eat in shifts or we do try to then we have a round table that we all sit down at.

Huge round table. Huge round table. And have a conversation and have a dinner. For the two of us though, I think sometimes it's harder for us to do date night. And we've tried to do more date nights, but it doesn't always happen like we would like. And sometimes we'll just go,

okay, we need some time alone. Let's order food out. Sometimes we'll go order sushi or we'll find something else or whatever. We may even do pizza. And we will try to let the kids go do something or get the kids to bed. And you and I will sit and have a to-go meal, not to-go, but the order-in meal. And sit and have date night. Well, I just found out that we're going to have date night next Friday, I think, Sean, because you're doing your show. I'm going to fill in for Jesse Waters and we can go out to dinner after, which we love to do.

I love it. So it's going to be fun. Date night at Fox News Studios in New York. Maybe I can, well, I was going to say maybe we can go to dinner after that, but we can't really because you have a show the next day. You're up at three in the morning. I know, but I can still go out for about an hour. If you stay in the city, you can. That's true. By the way, this is so odd for me. I'm like, up at 3 in the morning. I know, but I can still go out for about an hour. If you stay in the city, you can. That's true.

By the way, this is so odd for me. I'm like, unless you stay in the city. Like, I'm from Wisconsin. Did I actually come in here? It's fine. But I got to tell you what, I do miss Wisconsin. Maybe we'll do a podcast about summer vacations. Because I can't wait to get back to Wisconsin.

It's like, that's where my DNA is at. That's where my genetics are at. That's where your heart is. It really is. And I just, I'm so, that summer's coming. I'm excited for the warm weather, but I'm excited about the time I get to go back really to my home, which is in the greatest state

in the union, Wisconsin. Some of the nicest people. So I'm looking forward to that. We should talk about ideas for summer vacations in a future podcast here, Rachel. Absolutely. All right. Well, listen, I want to thank you all for joining us on the Friday edition of Questions with Sean and Rachel. I don't know if that's the title of this podcast or not, but love to take your questions.

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