From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Q & A With The Duffys: What's On Our Summer Reading List

Episode Date: July 8, 2023

Sean and Rachel answer a few listener questions! They reveal what books are on their summer reading lists, the shows they let their children watch and share what movies and tv shows parents should avoid showing their kids. Later, Sean and Rachel break down the story of the cocaine found at the White House and talk about why they believe the mainstream media are shielding the Biden administration from blame in the scandal. Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Campos Duffy. Sean, it's so great to be back at the kitchen table on this beautiful summer day. And we're doing our Q&A questions and answers from our listeners and viewers. And this is becoming like a big favorite episode. Like our highest rated episodes are becoming Q&A. And I think it's because we're getting such great questions from our listeners. And we have a really nice set of questions. I'm going to start off with this one

because it is sort of the very summertime question, if you will. This one is a listener who wants to know what we're reading this summer. And so, Sean, why don't you start and then I'll talk about what I'm reading and also what our kids are reading, because I make sure that they have a good classic list of things they should read as well. Yeah, so back in college, I was supposed to read Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville. And I read part of it, but not all of it.

So now, what, decades later, I ordered the book and started reading Tocqueville again, which I think is very relevant for today's time in American politics. And again, if you haven't read it, great book, great analysis on America from, you know, back in the day. A Frenchman, a Frenchman coming to America and kind of seeing America from the perspective of a non-American. And it's really interesting, Sean, because I've I've always found it really informative. I remember reading it. I believe I was probably in college when I had to read it.

And it is interesting to see what people who aren't from America take away from America when they look when when they experience our lives and what they see and what they notice about us. And so what do you take? What was what was so unique about us? Right. And I just I've just started. I just I, you know, started a week ago and I've just gotten into it. So I can report I can do a book report on the podcast. But yeah, no.

So I've just I've just started just begun again to read it. cast longer if you don't like. But yeah, no, so I've just, I've just started, just begun again to read it. Can I tell you, Sean, that one of the, one of the things that I've had the advantage of is that I have a mom who is an immigrant. And so I've kind of had that Tocqueville experience growing up because her expressions and observations about Americans comes from the perspective of someone who's relatively new to America. And so, you know, there are so many things she noticed about us that she loved and thought was amazing. And one of them was how patriotic. I mean, we're seeing these new poll numbers coming out, Sean, about patriotism dropping in America significantly, especially among young people. But from my mom's perspective, that was one of the things she really loved about Americans that they, you know, you know, they would wear a sweatshirt with their flag on it

and they would fly their flags in front of their homes. And if you're from Europe, you know, that wasn't necessarily that common. And just the way we just express that love of country. Also, the emphasis on veterans. You know, other countries care about their veterans. Of course they do. But if you're from another country and you see the way we venerate our veterans, the way we prioritize them, whether it's, you know, giving them, you know, a special place in line at the airport where they can get in quicker or the way we celebrate Memorial Day and Veterans Day with such gusto.

That is something very uniquely American as well. There's just a lot of things. Didn't she also talk about when she came here, she was amazed at how full the grocery shelves were in America in our stores versus what she had in Spain where she came from. And the amazed at how full the grocery shelves were in America, in our stores versus what she had in Spain, where she came from. And the variety and the variety. You know what I noticed the most, though, actually, she talks about the most. This is going to sound not so, you know, deep and philosophical. American washing machines. I mean, it was like if you were

in Europe and you lived in Europe, these apartments were small and so the appliances were small. And, you know, she was the envy of everybody because she had an American washing machine, a big washing machine that was worked better and fit more stuff in it. And it was just more efficient. And now, you know, as you know, Joe Biden wants to ruin our washing machine experience. know, Joe Biden wants to ruin our washing machine experience. We were so proud of by making it, quote, energy efficient, which means they're not going to clean as well. And same with dishwashers, et cetera. But our American appliances at one point, at one time, were the envy of the world. And Joe Biden wants to take that envy away and make us, like everybody else, small little washing machines that don't use any water. All right, Rachel, what do you eat? What's Sonia's reading next?

Sort of making us great again. He wants to make us dirtier again. And I don't know. Anyway, you know, don't get me started on appliances and energy efficiency, because I think it's a war on women, a war on families, the entire green war on American appliances that have made women's lives and families' lives so much more efficient. So when you have nine kids, you think about these things a lot. You do. So for the third time, I do want to know what's on your reading list. What are you reading? So I just finished Domestic Extremist by P.T. Keenan, who we interviewed just about a week ago, Domestic Extremist by P.T. Keenan, who we interviewed just about a week ago. And it was fantastic. And now I'm reading a book that I'm obsessed with, Sean. And it's just it's been so interesting. It's called The End of Women, The End of Woman, How Smashing the Patriarchy Has

Destroyed Us. And it's by Cary Gress, who, by the way, is one of the co-authors of Theology of the Whole. But she wrote this book about the sort of what is the history of the women's of the feminist movement in America and in the world. And it goes all the way back to Mary Wollstonecraft in the 1700s. And she takes you all the way through. And what you really start to realize is one, that so many of the leaders of the feminist movement are really troubled women who had a lot of personal pain in their lives that ended up coloring the way they saw men and the way they saw themselves. And so we're a lot of women who transferred that pain into a movement to try to make sense of it. So maybe not the best role models. And then the next part that is so

fascinating are the deep Marxist roots in feminism and how the Marxist movement used the feminine, sort of co-opted the feminist movement to help them advance their agenda. And so many of the leaders of the modern sort of, you know, second wave feminists, you know, Betty Friedan, for example, and others were very much involved in the communist movement here in America. And so there are some real communist Marxist roots in the agenda and the idea of tearing down the family, that what they, if you want to tear down the patriarchy, you needed to tear down the family. And, and that what we're seeing now is not necessarily, you know, the fruits of the sexual revolution, but it really is the fruits of the

Marxist revolution, which used the feminist revolution in part of their doing. So when you break down gender and you say it's just a construct and it's a social construct and there's no need for the family and there's nothing really that special about fertility and womanhood and motherhood and the maternal side of who we are as women, then you're left with nothing, right? And that's how you end up with Aaliyah Thomas, you know, being able to destroy women's sports and all the other trans athletes, but also this idea of the erasure of women and what makes us unique in sort of human history and our unique contributions to humankind. And so I am absolutely, I mean, I've felt all of these things. It's another thing to get the concrete history behind it

and start to understand this moment we're living in is just the fruition, sort of the blossoming of all of this work, you know, starting in, you know, the 1700s, all the way through the suffragette movement. It's a lot of misconceptions about who these suffragettes were and a lot of hiding of their history. And this book kind of unearths that and tells the story that the feminists don't want you to know about who they are and where their roots come from. So I am absolutely enmeshed in this book. So it's called, again, let me give people the name of it. The End of Women, How Smashing the Patriarchy Has Destroyed Us by Carrie Grass.

So I look at what you're talking about in this book, and it's interesting. We thought that freedom is invincible. Once you have it, you can never lose it and i think for generations we've let this cancer grow and foment and never addressed it and and to your point we've seen it grow and take over the whole body america it's everywhere this marks his philosophy and ideology and now we're confronted with how do you root it out i mean we, we're in a place where we're teaching our kids to hate who we are, to hate our history. The greatest country, the greatest idea of freedom that's ever existed on the face of the earth is now being demonized as an evil place. And to your point, that is the Marxists. The Marxists have worked diligently and we have not diligently fought them. diligently and we have not diligently fought them. And so can I say just how insidious and smart I should say, um, how crafty it was for the Marxist to go after, to, to co-opt the feminist movement, because if you can, you know, break down, you know, women's confidence in themselves and in their, you know, in, in their contributions, um, if you can make them feel bad because like somehow

you're not being, you're not an accomplished person because you're taking care of, you know, your family and your children. If you could diminish what your contributions are as a female, it's really the beginning of the breakdown of the family, which, as you know, is the Marxist goal to recreate society. So it's just it's been so good. I think, you know, the first part of solving any problem that you the problem you laid out there, Sean, is to is to acknowledge there is a problem and understand it. And then I think we have a better chance of grasping it. The the the summertime books that our kids are reading is interesting.

So I just finished reading with Margarita and Patrick. What was the name of the book? Oh, my God. Why am I losing? The Secret Garden. The Secret Garden. Thank you, Sean. The Secret Garden.

They're now reading Old Yeller. And after Old Yeller, we have the Penderwicks lined up as well as Where the Red Fern Grows, which is one of your favorite books, Sean. I read that growing up and it is, I cried at the end, oh, like a little baby. But such a good book, Where the Red Fern Grows. It's a classic. In the Ozarks, I think it takes place in the Ozarks and two coon hunting dogs and a little boy. And it's the story of these dogs

and this young boy in the Ozarks and it's wonderful. So yeah, it's a great kids book. I think there was also, I've heard rumor of this, Lucia was talking

to the kids about reading them a Nancy Drew book, I believe. Oh, I'm obsessed with Nancy Drew. I'm obsessed. I just love Nancy Drew. That's a great series. Oh, I'm obsessed with Nancy Drew. I'm obsessed. I just love Nancy Drew.

That's a great series. As well. So go for the classics. And by the way, last year, I read Treasure Island to the kids. So that's another great classic book. I just think summertime is a wonderful time, especially, you know,

our kids get good classic literature in school. A lot of kids start getting it. And so it's just the summertime is a perfect time, whether it's books on tape, which, you know, if you're taking road trips, I know you one year did Where the Red Fern Grows when we drove back from Arizona to Wisconsin, Sean, with books on tape. And that was super fun. But, you know, introducing your kids to this, these, there's great information online of, you know, different classic book lists that you can introduce your children. Summertime's an awesome time to get what they're not maybe getting at their public school.

And so use this time. It's great family time. I remember we had a guest once on our show, on my show, Sean. I'm not going to remember her name, but she wrote a book called The Golden Hour. And she did a whole study on how important for brains and sort of character development and soul development for children to sit down and read a book with their kids. And I'm not talking about just little board books for little kids, but even as they get older, you know, that time spent in what she calls that golden hour of reading with your children is super powerful and something that your kids will look back on really fondly as they grow up. So that's a big advantage of that time. Can't read yet or they're not the best readers. It teaches them a love of

books. And if you do it with them, they'll probably do it themselves when they get the skill sets to actually sit down and read an age appropriate book. They will because it's part of their family history. So reading to your kids is a lifelong gift that you actually give to them. And they'll associate, if you read with them, they'll associate that beautiful bonding time that they had, that time with their parents, with reading. And those good feelings will attach. And so even as they get older, and this is what she talked about in the golden hour, is that, you know, that those good feelings about reading and bonding with your family and your parent in those moments will carry through and

make reading enjoyable long into the future. And just, you know, one other point on that, with all the fast images, you know, everything is happening more quickly and kids' attention spans, everyone's attention spans have shortened up. And this allows the attention span to expand and to use your imagination as they go through this book. There's a really important skill set to learn through reading that allows them to concentrate and to spend your times in a topic, in a subject, in a book that will help them in all facets of their life. So, um, yeah, no, Sean, I just, just to wrap that point up.

It's such a great point in today's day and age with so much going on on, on their phones and the, and people are losing their attention spans. And one way to regain your attention span is to go back to, to, you know, long form reading, um, where you're, you're, you're, you're forced to, you know, long form reading, um, where you're, you're, you're, you're forced to, you know, sit down for long periods of times and, and, and follow a story and sort of get back those brain, you know, the, the way your brain used to work before all the social media, um, influence. So that's such a great point. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Light up Black Friday with Freedom Mobile and get 50 gigs to use in Canada, the US and Mexico for just 35 bucks a month for 18 months.

Plus get a one time gift of five gigs of Roam Beyond data. Conditions apply. Details at freedommobile.ca. The next question is, what do you let your children watch? So I'm going to start. I'm going to answer that question, Sean, a little bit in the negative, because there's a story that's just popping up now. I'll tell you what my kids won't watch this summer. And that is the Barbie movie. And it makes me sad because the Barbie, Barbie should have been for kids. It should have been a movie for moms and daughters to be able to watch together without all the indoctrination and woke messaging that sadly, this very visually appealing movie, which is the art direction, the set design

is brilliant on this film. In fact, the movie, Sean, ran out. They use this certain type of paint. It's called Pantone Pink or whatever. ran out. They used this certain type of paint. It's called Pantone pink or whatever. They literally ran out of this paint in the world because they use so much of it for the set design. There was only so much available and they had to make new batches of it. That's how incredibly detailed in creating this Barbie dream world. But unfortunately, in the Barbie dream world, there are trans Barbies and all kinds of woke messaging.

And this idea that Barbie and what she represented, this sort of femaleness, is negative. And gender roles are terrible. And so Barbie has to be woke-ified. And it just would have been nice to let us sort of bask in her retro-ness and enjoy something a little bit wholesome for once but we didn't get that one funny thing sean is that they're the trans barbie is also the dr barbie so the the doctor ends up being a man and not a woman in the barbie which i thought was pretty ironic you know that, that's, it's interesting. And I think this was done by Disney. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know if it was Disney. I know Mattel was in conjunction with them. I can look that up quick. But again, this is going to, I believe, be a massive production that will, in the end, mean losses for the company that did it because they they are producing a product that parents don't want their kids to see um yeah they're making it permit for adults instead of kids but what we've done rachel is kind of thought through what don't we want them to see and so again we've we've canceled dis+. Yes. You know, I've canceled Netflix, and Netflix is back, you know, in the –

I've gone back and forth on that. But I'm going to tell you one of the problems that we've had. We were very strict with our older kids because we were in control of what they were seeing far more. of what they were seeing far more. And when you have older siblings and then younger siblings, the older siblings want to watch something that normally you would say the younger siblings can't watch. And the line gets to be a little more blurred with the younger kids. And I think, I think I saw that same thing in my family. I got, I probably did things that my older siblings never did because it's easier when everyone does something or watches something together and so um sometimes you've they've been watching a movie and you've been like what they're watching

uh right because a little one they're watching something that's maybe appropriate for the teenager right yeah yeah so let me tell you some some some of the shows that i think that you know i don't love the middle the there's a, you know, I don't love The Middle. There's a sitcom called The Middle. I don't personally love it, but it's pretty G-rated. Our kids love it. It's fine. I've sat down and watched it with them.

I don't like it, but it's very G. Is that Markham in the Middle? No, it's just called The Middle. It's just called The Middle. The other, you watched, I did not like this series. You thought it was okay for the kids and you watched it with them which was stranger things i did watch stranger things with them which i thought was it appropriate the whole time i never liked it so i never watched it you watched it with that yeah i thought no i thought it was appropriate i you know it was like in its 1980s

reagan-esque cold war fighting you know there wasn't, you know, sex scenes. And then it's the, you know, it's almost, I feel like it was a little bit of Goonie ask in a way kids, whatever the blobs are on the, on the other side of the side. Anyway, I thought, I thought it was, I thought it was good. And the kids liked it. What was the one on the outer banks? So the older kids wanted to watch outer banks and then the younger kids tried to watch it too. You gotta say no to that.

I'll say no. So here's my tip on this. So it's really hard. I mean, we just cut out Disney Plus because I felt like it was, a lot of the shows have a lot of hidden messaging. We've actually now seen leaked footage of executives at Disney saying they're trying to tuck all this gender ideology into these shows.

And if you sit down and watch these shows with your kids, you will see they are filled with subliminal and not so subliminal messaging about gender ideology that you may not want. They're also super woken in many other ways. So I just cut it out. I just don't, I don't trust that channel. And it's really sad to say that you don't trust Disney. However, what you can do, especially with the younger kids, the old classics are amazing. So bring back the Disney classic, Cinderella, Snow White, Ariel, all those things are awesome. They're not, they're wholesome, great, great shows that you can show your kids. We've also reintroduced our kids to the shows we grew up on. Like I am obsessed with the Brady Bunch and,

you know, the kids can joke and it can be kind of goofy, but they actually kind of end up liking it. joke and it can be kind of goofy but they actually kind of end up liking it uh gilligan's island um there's all kinds of older sort of things that we all grew up on uh you know even the old the old 80s sitcoms um like uh who's the boss and yeah there are things um but there's old old 80 80s movies. You mentioned the Goonies, Sean, or even from the 90s, Cheaper by the Dozen. I mean, you can bring back some of these movies and you'll see that the messaging is just much different. It's just really about entertaining young people as opposed to indoctrinating them. I'm a big, big on the classic older old movies.

And so a lot of my boys aren't, won't buy into it. But my girls do love the old classic movies, whether they're Elvis movies, Blue Hawaii, all that kind of stuff. Don't hesitate to try and bring it back. They'll grow in it first, but they'll actually end up liking them in the end. And so that's my, that's my tip is bringing back some of the old Hollywood classics. That is a very good tip. Hollywood classics, 1980s, you probably can't go wrong.

Yeah. Okay. So here's the next question. What is the best quality, Sean, that you inherited from your parents? So listen, I think my parents, one, taught me how to work hard. And that was a family value that was also instilled in my own siblings. It's like, that's what we do. We work hard. And that was a family value that my, that was also instilled in my own, own siblings that it's like, that's what we do. We work hard. And the other one is I thought my, my dad, and listen, every family has all their own issues and their own problems,

but I thought my dad always loved my mom. And I don't know that he was a great romantic, but he, he, he loved her. And I think that was a great example for all of us kids raised in their home. And I think, listen, if you want to have a successful life, part of that is having a successful marriage. And I think my mom and dad have a successful marriage and they love each other. And in their older age, they care for each other and they compromise. And yeah, they fought. And but there were it's you know what? It was a it was a good example for me. I think there are I think they are a beautiful love story, Sean. And I think they they must have been a great example for you guys growing up,

because it's very clear they still do love each other and they take time. What I love is they take time to celebrate their their love story. So whether it was their 50th anniversary or, you know, they just, they take time, energy, even money to go, we're going to celebrate this milestone in our lives. And I think it's really beautiful. Um, and I think it's been a great example for, for, for everybody who's been in, you know, was touched by them. And I think that's a beautiful, beautiful thing. When I think about the best quality that I inherited from my parents, I think also is hard work and grit. And those essentially are very American values, you know,

and yet my mom is an immigrant. My dad is a first generation Mexican-American. My dad, when he was a kid, you know, was a shoeshine boy. I mean, I think about that a lot. Like, you know, the age he's the eight. He was probably a shoeshine boy at the age of our youngest son. He is right now. And he would go down to the copper mines on a Friday because the guys were going to want to go out on Friday night and they would need their boots shined before they went out, you know, to meet girls later on that night. And he would he would shine their boots. He would charge a little extra for a spit shine.

But he always, you know, had these little extra jobs. He ended up becoming an apprentice to a piñata maker and ended up starting his own little piñata company when he was 12 years old. My mom, you know, also, you know, worked in a factory when she was a young girl to make extra money and always had a side job when I was growing up to help supplement the family income, which was needed. And so these are just hardworking people who taught me not just about hard work, but about the American dream. And I know that I stand where I am right now because of the example that they set for me on, you know, work hard and you can get somewhere in this country. And I think that dream is still alive. You know, people want us not to believe it,

but it's still here. We got to fight for it. You do have grit for sure. And I think that is, if that's where your grit came from, was from your parents, no doubt that is a great gift that they gave you because probably more than anybody in our family,

you stick through till the very end on almost everything you start, which is pretty remarkable. I might peter out at some point, the kids might peter out and your complaint to all of us is you need to have grit. Stick to it. If we start cleaning the garage, we're going to finish the garage. Um, that's how, um, that's how I'm, I'm built. And I, I know it comes from somewhere. Okay. Here's the next question. After marriage, what surprised you the most about each other?

Which is a great question. So Sean, after we got married, what surprised you the most about me? Let's do this again. So Rachel, after you got married to me. No, you first, you first. You know, I mean, I think I was surprised at, I mean, again, I think I thought you liked kids, but I mean, you really do like kids. I was surprised at how much you kiss kids. That's a Hispanic thing. You know what?

I mean, here's what else. It's interesting. So I don't, I'm not negative, but I would see that you would, there's things that you wanted to do that you're like, we're going to do this or we can do that. And I was like, I don't, I don't know that we can do that. Or I don't, I'm not sure that's something we can get to. There was no guardrails about the things that we could do in our life or in our marriage or with our kids. And I think a lot of people who would have heard some of the things we talked about that we wanted to do, which were oftentimes led by you, would laugh at us and think they're crazy. And frankly, it ended up pretty well. And again, I think the lesson there is if you can't say it, if you can't envision doing this next step or taking this risk or trying to do this thing, you'll never get there. And if you never try, you for sure will never get there. And I do think this motto that you've had of if one thing in your day, every day should frighten you. Don't be comfortable.

Don't be afraid to be uncomfortable and take risk. And I think you've done that very, very well. And again, there's a road full of some failures that we've had and some good successes, but it comes from the idea that we can do anything. Well, thank you, Hein. That's such a nice thing to hear. I appreciate that.

I think the thing that surprised me the most, so you've always been, when we were dating, I think what I really loved about you is how easygoing you are. And I still love that about you. I think you're an pretty easygoing guy. But I think what really surprised me was the kind of leadership that you've taken in the family,

which I really appreciate. And whether that's, you know, finding direction. At some point, you need a vision for your family, right? And what do you want your family to be? And I feel like you've done a really great job, whether it's, you know, planning, you know, what we're going to do with our life, you know, how we're going to, you know,

manage Congress and the scheduling and all this kind of stuff and finding that balance. But also in terms of, you know, planning the vacations and deciding that, you know, you wanted your family to have the same experience you had of lake life and making, you know, somehow never thought we'd be able to, to get something on a lake. And we did. And just all of these things are things I feel like you thought about and and tried to, you know, to use a manifest into being. And I think that I I really appreciate that because I think that that kind of leadership creates something, creates a family, creates, you know, a sense of belonging for all of us. And I think you've been an amazing husband,

but also an amazing father leader in our home. And I truly, truly appreciate that. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you for saying that as well. And just by the way, as we're going to- No, it takes time and energy to do that. We've done this trip to Wisconsin.

We both, Rachel and I, had different schedules, and people were going at different times, and then we had a car, but then rental cars and returns, and I'm the one who thinks through all of the logistics of getting- It's so true. My time. It's gone off without a hitch thus far, but that's not always the case, but it does take time and planning. And again,

if your family is important to you, um, and spending time with them, you got to put, you got to, you got to think through how do I make this time happen? And so I thank you for, for that, Rachel, because I do work at making. I know you do. It's just a great point though, too. Like if, if you don't plan it, if you don't, we, it's so easy for things to like, for your everyday busy life just to take over. And you just really have to cut this, carve this time out, plan it right, or else you're just going to lose that moment. And the summertime, you know, I just love summer. It's my favorite season of the year. I feel like things slow down.

There's not that pressure of everyone getting to school and activities and everything else. And really, I really try not to schedule the kids to do anything so that we can just have time to do nothing here at the cabin. And it's again, it's hard. We have to make our work schedules. We have to carve that time out. We have to get the kids out here. We have to do what everything we have to do to make this happen.

But you are definitely the leader out here. We have to do what everything we have to do to make this happen. But you are definitely the leader of that. And that is a big part of, you know, enjoying our family and not just, you know, going through the motions, but literally just stopping the world and just enjoying each other. And it but it takes planning and you do that. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Some things require a lot of work to grow, like plants, hair, babies, or your savings. But when you run a business, you already have enough on your plate.

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And so the Essence magazine, which is a, geared towards African-American Black audiences, readers, had the Ethn's Awards. And they invited R&B singer and actor Jill Scott to sing the National Anthem. And she decided that the Ethn's Awards would be a great time to give her sort of feelings about America, which are fairly negative. And she decided she could rewrite the national anthem. So here's what she said when she read when she sang the national anthem. by the blood in the streets that this place doesn't smile on you colored child whose blood built this land with sweat in their hands but will die in this place and your memory erased. Oh say does this truth hold any weight this is not the land of the free but the home of the slaves. So Sean what do you make of Essence magazine, a Black lifestyle magazine,

inviting this woman to sing the National Anthem and change the lyrics in such a really controversial way? Well, dramatic fashion. And so, again, this goes back to a movement, a Marxist movement that has completely infiltrated all spaces of life. But again, here that we not only have taught people to hate our country, but also then promote it, to scream it from the rooftops and to actually get this platform to sing a song that's so disgraceful to a beautiful, beautiful country. And again, if you want to talk about America's mistakes, yeah, there are mistakes. But there are mistakes every single place in the world. There's no sinless country in the world.

And America is no different. Even slavery, Sean, there's been such a misunderstanding about slavery as if slavery only existed in colonial America or or or under white Europeans. I mean, the slavery trade was much bigger in other parts of the country and other historical times and much more and as brutal. And so this idea that somehow it's a white and black or American thing on it was, you know, it existed across history. And so you don't see the Egyptians, for example, flogging themselves over slavery that happened centuries ago. Do you get what I'm saying? Or Native Americans who had slaves themselves. They're not flogging themselves over their slave past.

And again, it's a horrible part of global history and American history, no doubt about that. But to say that America was unique in its slave ownership is disgraceful. And then again, you had a country and founders who are demonized, but they set us up to get rid of slavery, to have equality, to fight for everyone being equal, not based on the color of their skin, not based on their sexual preference, but based on their character and their ability to work and who they are as a person, not the immutable quality. But those ideas came from the founders, the freedom that we have, even the freedom of the Marxists to infiltrate,

that we let happen. But Sean, I do think it's important that historically we really set the record straight. There were one million white Europeans who were stolen and sold into slavery in Africa. So just it wasn't one way from Africa to to, you know, Europe and the Americas. There was a, you know, a million white Europeans stolen and sold as they were in Africa and more African slaves were sold into the Arab slave trade than the Atlantic one. So listen, we cannot go back and repair these sins. All we can do is look at where we're at right now. We're selling their tribal members into slavery. That's how, I mean, they were the original slave traders where they were selling, you know, people from an adjoining tribe, but they were the ones that were grabbing people in Africa and as Africans selling them to the

European slave ships. So there is blame to go everywhere around for everyone. You're right, the history is important. Yeah. Another topic that has been hitting the news and related to this one, by the way, is Ben and Jerry's putting out a tweet on Independence Day saying that America, you know, was founded on stolen land and the backlash on it. Sean, I'm actually really surprised that, you know, Ben and Jerry's has lost, what is it, $2.5 billion? Yeah, so Ben and Jerry's said we should give land back from whom it was stolen. So let's start with Mount Rushmore. And that's a target of the left. They want to give Mount Rushmore back. Ben and Jerry's was sold.

Ben and Jerry's sold their ice cream company to Unilever. I believe it's a British company. And their stock price is down in the last week from $52 a share to $51 a share. So it's not a huge market move, but they're down a dollar. That's $2.5 billion. And I think conservatives have learned, whether it was Bud Light or Target, that they have great power with their dollar. But that wasn't it, Rachel, because one of the founders of Ben and Jerry's, Ben Cohen, Jerry's, Ben Cohen went to Washington, D.C.

And he basically was burning a sign that was talking about freedom of the press because of the way Julian Assange has been treated. So he was, Ben Cohen, was arrested and was taken away in handcuffs. So these are a couple of communist guys, Ben and Jerry. I don't know, I kind of agree with him on Julian Assange, just saying. You may. But there are a couple of guys who are radicals and they use their money and their power to push radical ideas. And what we've said on the bottom line- Didn't they sell it, but they don't own the company anymore. Did they sell it to Unilever? They sold it to Unilever, yes. Yeah.

But I think they're still involved in the company. But why doesn't Ben and Jerry's, their factory, their headquarters, all of the farms where they get their milk, give all of that land back to the Indians from whom they stole it? They want to start with Mount Rushmore. Start with themselves. Lead by example, Ben and Jerry's. Give your land back first.

And then you can talk to the rest of us about what we should do. But they want everyone else to start. They don't want to take a profit loss by their stupid ideas. And again, on this point of giving back Mount Rushmore, if you want to go through land ownership in human history, and basically every piece of land has been stolen from someone and then stolen again. I mean, the Native Americans were stealing land from each other, you know, multiple times over. Tribes take land and people from one tribe and then another tribe takes it from them. And so to think that at one point in history,

you're going to say this land really belonged to this tribe and you've stolen it from them. Actually, they were defeated. And you have a country that has grown into a military and economic behemoth, the United States of America. Don't forget that in World War I, but especially in World War II, as we freed the world from this threat of Nazi Germany and from Japan, we didn't take any land.

We, I think Colin Powell made this point. He said, all we've asked for is land to bury our debt. That's it. Now, people have agreed to allow us to keep some air bases in their countries, but that's an agreement with the country. We didn't take that land. That's not American land. We gave all the land back. It's a remark. And this, by the way, no one does this. In a world war like that, and you're the victor, you take the land, and you're the victor, you take the land, you take the spoils. We never did that. We actually helped countries rebuild after World War II. American tax dollars in the Marshall Plan

went to Europe and other countries to help them rebuild their economies, countries, and that they want to crap on America for doing that, this is insanity. We are unique in every single way, and especially in regard to how this country has treated foreign land by giving it back. So her tweet, by the way, Sean, has a link to a petition to give the land back movement. There's a land back movement to give Mount Rushmore back to the Lakota Indians native tribe. And so this is this is what they're backing. But you're so right. Such a hypocrisy. You don't see these companies returning the land of their factories

are on or anything else. It's something that they want the rest the rest of us to do. So again, not the best 4th of July message, but I do, I will say, Sean, I do respect their right to say whatever the heck they want. That's the country I want to live in. But I just, when I let them say what they want, I get resentful when I see how many times they are using their left-wing companies like big tech companies to censor conservatives.

So it just has to go both ways. We should all be able to say whatever we want. We should all be able to criticize back, but we all need to have an equal level playing field when it comes to our right free speech. Rachel, Ben Cohen is talking about freedom of the press. Okay, I love freedom of the press. OK, well, I love freedom of the press. Me too. Press is downstream from free speech.

And I didn't see Ben or Jerry stand up when conservatives were being censored on social platforms by their government when very smart scientists during COVID were being censored. I didn't. He wasn't out there getting arrested and protesting and burning, you know, free speech signs. Um, I don't see him. Oh, you got to believe those guys were probably the worst COVIDian masking their pro or they're probably shut down their company for, I don't know how long and probably masked everybody for way too long. I mean, that's how liberals were during the, I mean, they were the worst, um, during that period, Sean. Yes, they were. And I'm sure Ben and Jerry, to your point, were

part of that movement. But again, it's very laser focused on only some issues. Julian Assange, but not anybody else, gets to have free speech or freedom of the press. So. Okay. So now, Sean, the final point here, the final topic is Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and the Biden family and the cocaine gate. So what are your thoughts on that? Well, so again, the clarity around where the cocaine was found, that has to be developed. But again, there's video footage, there's cameras all over the White House. We will know if the Secret Service wants us to know, who put the cocaine there. By the way, that entrance that they refer to is the entrance that a lot of the staff,

members of Congress all go through, but that it was not far away from the Situation Room. That's a more secured area of the White House than maybe the First Son would have access to. What I found interesting, though, Rachel, was from the podium, Karine Jean-Pierre was unwilling to commit that whoever left the cocaine in the White House should be prosecuted. That seems like a pretty easy answer to go, yes, it's a crime to have cocaine. And when cocaine is found in the White House, we find that to be offensive and criminal. And whoever did that, they should be held to account to the fullest extent of the law. But that's not what she said. It's like, I think she said, they should be held to account to the fullest extent of the law. But that's not what she said.

It's like I'm not. I think she said, I'm not going to answer a question about a hypothetical. Well, she's telling you everything, you know. I mean, listen, we all know everyone in that White House get what happened. I think we all know what happened. happen. But whether it's the leaker at the Supreme Court for the Supreme Court decision on Roe versus Wade, the draft decision, when they don't want to find out, we just don't find out. And this is going to be another case where they don't want us to know. They're going to hope that this dies down and they're not going to get to the bottom of it. But it is absolutely astonishing to me

that given everything that's happened with Hunter Biden, and I've told you this before, Sean, I think he is very passive aggressive. He is secretly or not so secretly very angry that he has had to be the moneybags in this family. And he is acting out in ways, he's angry at his father. You would only do this if you are somehow just trying to self-destruct this family.

There's no explanation for it. Well, some conservative media have said, well, this was a brilliant way to distract from the other Hunter Biden, Joe Biden scandals on the finance side of taking money for political moves by the vice president. I don't think that's the case. I think this is devastating

because Hunter Biden has a plea deal that no other American would get. He's going to plead to two misdemeanor charges for tax evasion. Those should have been felonies and they should have been, you know, a long time in prison. The gun charge was, which by the way, he lied on a gun purchase form saying he wasn't doing or addicted to drugs. And that one is basically going to be dismissed.

It's a deferred prosecution agreement. And the problem is now if this was Hunter Biden and he's caught with cocaine in the White House, that's going to make prosecutors have a second look. They're going to the politics of this are going to force the prosecutors to take a second look at the plea deal that they reached with Hunter Biden because it looks that much worse. If Hunter is still doing coke, still doing crack, he's still a drug addict and you still give him the sweetheart deal. I mean, this is a stretch, but I'll take the stretch for a moment. A troubled man who was doing drugs, making bad decisions with prostitutes, but a man who found the Lord and straightened his life out and is a model citizen. That could be one story if it was the story for Hunter Biden,

that could be one story if it was the story for Hunter Biden. But he is not a model citizen. If he's still out there doing drugs, and this is the plea deal that he has, I think America, even fair-minded Democrats are going to go, this isn't right. No one's treated this way. And Hunter Biden shouldn't be treated this way either because justice should be blind for everybody,

including the Biden family. So there's some interesting footage that you can go on Twitter and see. And that is Hunter Biden on the balcony on July 4th with his current wife and the one grandchild he does recognize was there as well. And he's next to Jill and Joe. And he's acting kind of erratic and a little bit strange. And he's next to Jill and Joe. And he's acting kind of erratic and a little bit strange. At one point, he walks behind Jill Biden and he sort of like touches his nose.

You can if you if you go online, you can see it in slow motion. It's just behind Jill. And, you know, obviously, this is speculation. But given what's happened, given what we know about Joe Biden, about Hunter Biden and his history, it's not really surprising. And why wouldn't Hunter Biden think he could get away with this? He's gotten away with everything. You know, he was getting $80,000 a month deals while he was in the in the throes of a crack addiction. And, you know, this Joe Biden has famously said no one F's with the Biden family. They think they're invincible. They think they can get away with it. And clearly they're doing everything they can behind the scenes, the deep state, the Secret Service,

the, you know, press corps. You know, I saw one of the most fascinating things, Sean, I saw was that there was a journalist with his name Miller, his last name is Miller. He was on CNN. I can't remember his first name. He was in an interview with Jake Tapper and he literally said, oh, you know, it could be the press. I mean, so the press is actually blaming the press in order to cover up for the Hunter Biden, you know, cocaine scandal here. This is so outrageous. And it is about this two tiers of justice that you talked about, Sean. But it is proof that, you know, if you're Hunter Biden, if you're a Biden and get away with anything. I think this is a serious thing. I think people, no matter how they try to cover it up, people get what's happening. And I don't think it speaks well to all the other treasonous activity that we've seen from this family, this criminal enterprise. I think it speaks to, it gives more proof that that's what we think was happening in the Biden family actually did happen.

more proof that that's what we think was happening in the Biden family actually did happen. Well, as the shame for the lack of coverage on COVID touches the media, their unwillingness to cover this story when the truth comes out will touch the media, just like the fake Russia collusion hoax touches the media. They probably won't cover their unwillingness to cover this story, if you will. But the American people are seen right through the partisan hacksmanship that's happening in American media today. So, Rachel, listen, great questions. Great couple of hot topics. Yeah. Of the podcast.

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