From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Q&A With the Duffys: Is Former President Trump A Changed Man?

Episode Date: July 20, 2024

Since former President Trump survived an assassination attempt last Saturday, many Americans have been wondering the same thing: is former President Trump a changed man?   President Trump’s first appearance at the Republican National Convention this week seemed to suggest he was,  appearing far more sensitive and calmer than he usually is. However, the true test came down to last night when former President Trump accepted the presidential nomination. After giving an over 90-minute speech, the longest televised acceptance speech in history, do Americans believe he's a changed man after his near-death experience?   Sean and Rachel are joined by the managing producer for 'The Dan Bongino Show,' their daughter Evita Duffy-Alfonso to recap the week and share their thoughts on whether they believe former President Trump has changed since the horrific events of last Saturday.   Follow Sean & Rachel on X: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Campos Duffy. We're also here with our daughter, Evita D Duffy with a day after the convention podcast dissecting what happened, how Donald Trump did, how the presentation was. So, Rachel, your thought How did Donald Trump do? Did he do what he had to do To convince, not the MAGA voter But to actually convince that independent Or undecided voter To side with Trump

Sean, but let's first take a look at the night The week But let's just break down the night Last night was an incredible lineup You had Tucker Carlson Who, by the the way if you were in the building you could see that there was no notes there was no tell there was nothing on a teleprompter it was blank um that was all from the heart and it was felt then you had hogan come on

and just really bring down the house um with you know and all these people are people that have very personal, deep, long relationships with Donald Trump. Dana White actually introduced him, left his family vacation in some distant, exotic place to introduce Donald Trump. All these people have these deep, long relationships with him. And they're standing there saying, the guy you're hearing about in the media is not the guy that i know but the guy you saw on that stage in pennsylvania take a bullet to the face and then fight his way up put his fist in the air and say fight fight on with blood streaming down his face that's the guy i know hulk hogan called him a gladiator um dana said he's never met anyone. And for those who don't know, Dana White owns the whole UFC cage fighting sport. He's at the center of it. He's the godfather of it. His whole business is tough guys and says, I've never met anyone tougher than Donald Trump. All of them also spoke to his graciousness, kindness,

and thoughtfulness to others. So I think all of that led up to then Donald Trump coming on with what you say, Sean, was a very different demeanor. Now, that demeanor might not last forever. He's definitely in a mode right now thinking about what just happened to him, distilling it, processing it. But there's definitely something different about him, don't you think, Evita? I was just going to jump in because we were all told that after this assassination attempt happened, that Trump was a changed man. And he was, I'm sure it did impact him a lot. And that he was going to come into this RNC and his speech specifically with a unity message because he'd been so deeply altered

as a person. And I'm going to be honest, I felt like it was very classically Trump. We were, we were getting very populist talking points. We got by the end, right? We got no more. Every time I teleprompter it was it was trump again no more open borders lowering inflation it was just very and and and you know snide remarks at biden it was very classically trump i think that maybe that's a testament to the fact that he just he didn't change that much because that's who Trump is. Right. That that is a very Trump thing to do to put his fist in the air and say, fight, fight, fight. That's just him. Oh, no, I don't think that's different. And I think what Sean's talking about, Sean, you jump in if I'm wrong about this, but he has just seemed at the convention, his whole demeanor, a little pensive, like he's still processing it and taking

it in. But you're absolutely right, Evita. The speech had the old classic Trump. I suspect in a few months after he's totally processed it, he's going to be back to what we all know he is, which frankly, I like. I think you guys are missing the main point here. So if you look at voters, a lot of those independent voters who we might have won in 16, but lost in 20, they didn't leave them because of his policies. They didn't leave because they thought, you know, their lives weren't better under Donald Trump. They were I think there was a frustration with the tweets and the fights and, you know, Trump. Trump is a Trump. He's a gladiator, as he was told by Hulk Hogan.

And so I completely find a visa with the fact that Donald Trump talked about the issues that he's been talking about. And we saw some of these videos. He wasn't just talking about them over you know the last nine years he was talking about them 20 years ago issues that are going to make this country great and strong um and um prosperous again but the tone matters and i think tonally he was far more subdued than you've seen him in the past. He was not as raucous. But it's only a few days, Sean. You think that's going to last? So I think this is part of, I think it changes. I don't know.

I've never had a near-death experience. However. I have. I know you have. But I think for him, it's changed him and his outlook on the world and the outlook of his mission, right? And and you might think, you know what, I believe in certain policies, but it might change the way I engage the people around me, how I fight with them, because there's there's maybe a higher purpose, a higher calling. So to that to that extent, the tone was what was different. You know, he was when he came out and was talking about, you know, being shot,

and I'm going to say this, I'm going to say it once, it's too painful. By the way, I don't think that's going to be the case. I think we're going to hear about the story a lot. That's not the last time we're going to hear about that story. You don't believe that that's going to be the last time you hear about it. Trump is Trump.

And I think he understands that he's got this four-month runway, and he's got to, you know, win over these people. He's got this four-month runway and he's got to you know win over these people um he's got the opportunity of a lifetime it's really his to lose because joe biden and the democrat party is absolutely in disarray i want to talk about that because people are saying that joe biden's gonna drop out this weekend but before that you know who I think was really changed? Melania Trump. Notice Barron wasn't there. I believe that's Melania saying, you guys took a shot at my, she doesn't like politics. Everyone knows that.

She's the most beautiful, glamorous, gorgeous, stunning first lady we've ever had. I will say it right now. I think she's even more fashionable and beautiful than Jackie O, who really was the standard bearer of that first lady crown as the most beautiful, the most fashionable. I do not think Jackie O has it. I think Melania has it. But while she looks the part, she doesn't love it. And as Donald Trump made the decision to go at the, pursue the presidency a second round.

She said a lot of things this time, I should say, has chosen not to do things this time that she did do last time. And so she's not present at events. She's hinted that she's not going to be permanently at the White House. She's going to spend a lot of time in Mar-a-Lago where she loves to hang out out and shop and lunch with her friends, that she's got a very tight-knit circle. But this thing happened, and she looks changed to me. And I believe she probably said, y'all shot my, not us, meaning Democrats, y'all shot my husband in the face and attempted to kill him. I'm not even going to give you a chance with Barron. So Barron was not present last night. She looks changed to me, Evita.

Yeah, I think that's true. That's the only explanation I can have for Barron not being there when all the rest of the family was. And we all wanted to see him. He kind of has a little bit of a cult following within the right. I think a lot of young men really like, uh, Baron Trump. Can we talk about the media for a second? Because there's this report time magazine, of course, was going to have the feature of its August issue, be the iconic Trump photo. And suddenly they decided to change it to something completely different. What is it's this weird black and white photo of sort of a a desolate looking uh public park it appears to

be i'm sure it's something specific i couldn't really understand what it was and the reason that they're doing this of course is because they understand that as dan pangino says campaigns are shots and sound bites that image of him with his fist in the air the american flag in the background blood on his face is powerful and people are instinctually attracted to strong masculine leadership brave leadership like talker talked about last night so sovita was this you said this was time magazine yeah okay so first off no one cares about time magazine oh no wait hold on hold on it's not just time magazine fox news did a report from the ap that said all of these photographers and and journalists are coming together they're unnamed sources but this is a report from fox

news saying we're not going to share this photo because we don't want to be involved in photoganda and journalists are coming together. They're unnamed sources, but this is a report from Fox News saying, we're not going to share this photo because we don't want to be involved in photoganda. That's what they said. We don't, we know that the Trump campaign- Oh, propaganda, photoganda. Photoganda. We don't want to be involved in it. We know the Trump campaign is going to co-opt it.

And what's funny about it is they're actually propagandists by refusing to use probably the most iconic photo in the last 50 years in their coverage. They're refusing to use it because they know that it will help Trump. That to me is propagandist. So you're saying this is not isolated time magazine. This is sort of a whole media media cartel getting together and saying,

just like they did when they said, we're going to all get together and act like Joe Biden doesn't have dementia. And that's what he and that's what they did. And so and that's why we're in the position that we're in right now in the Democrat Party. This is I really hope that every other independent media outlet. Promotes the fact that these establishment old guard media outlets, just like Time Magazine and others, is the AP part of it? Yeah, the AP is.

You guys, hold on a second. So it's, again, doesn't surprise me with the media. Of course, they are in the bag for Democrats, for liberals, for communists. They've lied to us on, the list is long, and we've talked about it a lot on this podcast, from Russia collusion to COVID to the laptop. They're liars. But what's interesting is America has peeped their game, number one.

And number two, the media doesn't have to share it. Everyone's seen it, and it's been shared across social media platforms. Thanks to thanks to Twitter. I think, I think if we didn't have Elon must run Twitter, we, this would be a very different situation. I couldn't agree with you more. And to the point, to her point, Sean, they may try to suppress it in their stupid, like you said, Sean, magazines like Time where nobody's reading Time.

I don't think anybody's read Time since the early 90s. Or at least the hard copy. Who gives a crap about them? Let me tell you how global this is. One of the most interesting things I've seen on Twitter since the assassination is a bunch of children in a little village in Africa who got together and did a reenactment of the assassination, complete with audience members, press, that made a makeshift podium with a makeshift taped up fake microphone. And these little kids were reenacting Donald Trump's, you know,

assassination attempt. And the little boy with his fist in the air as the Secret Service grabs them and he screams, fight, fight. This is so globally iconic. It reaches people across. You don't have to be an American to be inspired by this photo to go, whoa, America is powerful again. And that's like what America Make America Great Again is. I mean, he has his red hat. It's this photo. This photo is Make America Great Again.

This photo has every leader in the world either loving it or fearing it. I mean, as little kids, I just interviewed, I was just at Miss Katie's Diner, an iconic little diner where a lot of politicians come through when they come through Wisconsin. And I interviewed these young kids, teenagers, junior high school kids, and they all said their friends are talking about it. So I don't care if you're in Milwaukee, in the suburbs of Milwaukee, or if you're in, you know, Nigeria in a little village, young and old alike are impressed by this image. And I think that's why it's shooting fear into the hearts of Democrats. And the media is pretty much the Democrats. But I want to go I want to go back to my point here, which is, yes, the media is liberal. Yes, the media is working against Donald Trump. And yes, if there's an iconic photo of Trump that shows power and strength

and resilience, they're going to try to suppress it, of course. But I think the human heart seeks truth, always tries to seek truth. And you can be lied to for a while. But in the end, you will try to find out what is right, what is wrong, what is truthful, what is untr seek truth. And you can be lied to for a while, but in the end, you will try to find out what is right, what is wrong, what is truthful, what is untruthful. And the American people, all of them have seen the photo and they're going to continue to see this photo of Donald Trump with the American flag in the background, blood on his face and his fist in the air. And what you're going to see happen, and it's already started, and it you're going to see happen and it's already started and it's only going to

continue to devolve but people aren't going to the mainstream press they don't go to time magazine anymore because time magazine is irrelevant the new york times is irrelevant the washington post is irrelevant abc and these platforms these legacy media companies, the liars to the American people are going to continue to lose viewers and subscribers and readers because those who go there know they're getting propaganda. They're not getting news. They're not getting truth. And so they want to find a place that is going to level with them. And that might be on Twitter. That might be an account they follow on Twitter,

but it's not the New York times. I'd like to add that you're right. The media is losing their credibility. You're right. Things are, are changing in terms of, of, of how we, how we consume media and who we go to. And they know that. And that's why you're seeing the legacy media get increasingly unhinged as they know that they're losing their grip and their social control over the populace. That's why you're seeing bizarre conspiracies like Trump wasn't actually

shot. And this whole thing was a setup to give them a good photo op. Joy Reid said that. She said it on and off air. And the media has said, she's not like, you know, the AP or Time Magazine. But initially, when the shot rang out and the blood came down, they tried to say that his teleprompter, you know, cut him. I mean, there was a lot of efforts very early on. I think they could smell that this thing could change the election. And it certainly is. I'll tell you how much has changed the election. Right now, fundraising is dried up for the Democrats. They're in absolute panic mode. Before we started this podcast, the ticker on Fox News said a tsunami of Democrat

calls to Joe Biden to step down. Sean? You're right. And I think the way we're now looking at this is inside Democrats who are close to the White House, even those who are in the White House, and those who are part of Joe Biden's campaign, say that this is inevitable. And the problem they have is not just the media, who's miraculously started to recognize the failing of Joe Biden, but members of Congress, the chorus is growing. More people are joining it. And for Joe Biden to stay, I think it's going to be very difficult. And by the way, if he does stay.

This will be up on the weekend, Sean. Right. If he does stay, the ads that can be run about the Democrats who have attacked him for being a failing, senile old man are large. But also Joe Biden, as he sits home this weekend with COVID. And by the way, I hope he has a speedy recovery. I disagree with his politics. He does not have COVID, Sean.

Everybody who doesn't want to go to work says they have COVID. Nobody has COVID anymore. It's complete bullshit. Well, I've never said I had COVID and didn't go to work. So I may be mistaken. No, but I know people have done that. Do you know people have done that, Evita? Yeah, I've never said I had COVID and didn't go to work. So I've made me. I know people have done that. Do you know people have done that, Evita?

Yeah. Can I make a point about what I want to go back to what I was saying about the legacy media and the way that they've lost their grip? Yeah, they're losing their credibility to dad's point. But that doesn't mean that we're we're now we should now just be optimistic and say, ha ha, look at them. They're done for. Because these are the same groups of people, as they're pushing conspiracies about this Trump assassination attempt, that say, we're all conspiracy theorists, and we spread misinformation. And they go through channels like Garm and like NewsGuard to destroy the ability for alternative media, alternative personalities to generate ad revenue. They call them dangerous

and they're actively destroying them. There's an organization, the EU just signed a law, I forget the name of it, but essentially it's doing the same thing that GARM does in the United States to platforms. So Elon Musk X could potentially be banned in the EU because he actually allows free speech. So while they're losing credibility, they're also getting more unhinged and angry. And now they're starting to use really nefarious ways of taking back the power they lost at the advent of social media. And that is going to be a problem I think we're going to increasingly see in the lead up to 2024 and even after. They know they can't maintain this much longer. They need to hold on to the social control, the control of what people see, hear, and ultimately think. And they are going to get that back some way or another, probably through authoritarian means, and we have to be worried about it. And so I agree. They're not going to let their power go or let it go easily.

But the problem is they're making less money because less people trust them. Less people are using them as a new source. But you know who has a lot of money? The major corporations who are partnering with them as the trusted sources. Do you want to has more? The richest man in America, one Elon Musk,

who's going to give $45 million a month until the campaign to make, by the way, he's doing it, we talked about this, but it's interesting. He's going to get the vote out. Early votes, early registration, really important. I'm going to go back to- Sean, if you tweeted MAGA, you would have got Elon Musk put a fight icon next to your MAGA hashtag. I want to go back to Joe Biden. So we talk about his considerations and I've, and I've said for a long time that Joe Biden has fought a lifetime to get to

the white house. He's not going to leave. He's feeling pressure right now. Everybody's leaving him by the only ones who have in our Hunter and Jill, but everyone else around him, even, even the Obamas are saying, listen, you know, he's got to make a decision here, which is in a way saying, hey, you got to go. Here's the decision he has. Do I fight to make it through the convention and be the candidate and have all the Democrat Party turn against me and the Republican Party has already turned against him? Or do I decide this weekend that I'm going to leave and I will be celebrated by the media and by the Democrat Party

as a statesman, as a hero, as a man who put his country over himself, which we all know that's a bunch of a load of garbage because he's put his family finances above the country but they will celebrate him as the hero of the party stepping aside and giving the democrats a shot of defeating the evil orange man named donald trump so you're saying that what could happen right now is a bunch of deals are being made right now, probably, Sean, for Hunter Biden, that it's looking inevitable? I mean, if you're Joe Biden, Sean, you're not going to step down unless you've got Hunter taken care of and Jill's going to be taken care of and everybody else who's been on the dirty deals is taken care of. everybody else who was in on the dirty deal that's taken care of and and if if there's this tsunami of people saying you got to step down and the money is dried up there's nowhere to go right or could he step more just stubbornly say f you guys i'm saying i don't care i don't care what happens i think i think the pressure is mounting to a level that you uh he's gonna have to step

down again this is the first time I'm saying this because I've, I've been fully on the Joe Biden's not going to leave, but they are going to force him out. And to that point that you just made Rachel, I do think he's working on a golden parachute. It's like, if you guys want me to leave, I want to know when I'm out and I can take the money, who's got the, you know, $30 million

account set up for my family, for Hunter, for me, for Jill, that my family is going to be taken care of for a very long time into the future. And make no mistake, there are a lot of rich Democrats who would say, but again, they hate Trump. It is Trump change to get a few of them together and go, we're going to give Joe the $30 million. We're going to have him do a $30 million speech. We're going to give him a $30 million book deal. We're going to make it seem like we're going to buy a $30 million piece of art from Hunter Biden. They'll figure out a business way to do it, but the money is going to get into the Biden pocket.

And from that, he'll step aside and the hundreds of millions will flow into whoever their candidate is going to be. But I'm going to say this one more time. Democrats, if you think that this is going to solve all your problems, it will not. They might just try to crown Kamala Harris. That could happen. And all the Democrat would be is like Gavin Newsom and Gretchen Whitmer. They all might rally around her and say, we're all with her. That's possible. That's one scenario. But again, that's going to be divisive because they know that

Kamala Harris actually can't win. She's not liked her. Her approval ratings have been lower than Joe Biden's approval rating. So she's not a much better horse. But if they don't, and I've heard there's been reports that Joe Biden's not going to endorse kamala harris you might have an open floor vote to see who their candidate's going to be joe biden releases all of his delegates and then there's speeches and there's votes and then there's new votes and revotes and new speeches it is a divisive horrible process to go through at the convention. Democrats are going to leave with a candidate with massive division. And just so what? So the Democrat convention, if this happens there, is in the middle of August. There's some states that start voting 60 days before the election. So at the start of September, people can start to cast their ballots. So you'll only have the Democrat candidate three weeks before people are voting.

That is horrific for a party that wants to beat Donald Trump. After what you just saw for the four days in Milwaukee at this convention, the assassination attempt, it's either they're climbing Mount Everest or higher. Can I ask you a round robin here? If Kamala is the candidate, can she beat Trump? Sean? No. Evita? No. Okay. So knowing that. Okay. Now, okay. Go ahead. I agree with you. I think I agree with you.

I think it depends on how much money goes in and if some other crazy event, but given where we're at right now, I think I agree with you guys. If the Democrats know that, and they also know that 91% of all black women vote Democrat and that there are a huge number of black delegate women in the Democrat Party. They can't skip over Kamala. So they can't skip over Kamala, but Kamala can't win. So what's the other option?

I would say there's still a possibility, call me crazy, of a wild card in Chicago and the coronation of Michelle Obama, who I agree does not want this, does not want to do this, would rather be playing tennis and going, you know, on yacht rides with billionaires. It's still possible. She's the only option if you can't, if you have to bypass Kamala. We'll be right back with much more after this. Breaking news happens anywhere, anytime. Police have warned the protesters repeatedly, get back. CBC News brings the story to you as it happens.

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question? Because it doesn't matter who they're going to pick. They're going to lose. It doesn't matter. Not in my opinion. I think he has too much cachet with the public at this time after the assassination attempt. Their party is in disarray. Their people are angry. I think Molly tweeted this a while ago. She said, it's shocking to me. It was shocking to me how much Democrats hate the right. But it's even more shocking to me how much they hate their own base. They really do. They put themselves in a situation and no Democrat says, yeah, Biden was my first choice. No one says that. And we know that they will do anything to maintain power. We know what Russia collusion hoax, hiding the Hunter Biden laptop story. They're, they are, they're cheaters. They will do anything. So my question to you guys is inevitably when they are losing and when they do lose, what are we going to be facing as a country

when the people who have been sidelined, we know we'll do just about anything to maintain power. who have been sidelined, we know will do just about anything to maintain power. Well, that chapter has yet to be written, but expect something. By the way, expect whether it's a September surprise or October surprise. We think we've seen everything, including with the assassination attempt at Donald Trump. It's not over. The point, though, is the American people have seen so many attacks on Donald Trump, it's not over. Now, the point, though, is the American people have seen so many attacks on Donald Trump. But for the ability to take his life, they're not going to buy what the Democrats or the media or the deep state are going to sell them, number one. And you're not

moving his voters. Here's the I'm gonna go back to Kamala Harris. And we are really round robbing this thing. We're jumping all over. But you're a Democrat. And you have to have two thoughts. One is we could win in November and keep Donald Trump out of the White House. Well, if that's your philosophy, I'm sorry. And I'm going to say it again. I am incredibly impressed with Gavin Newsom.

I couldn't disagree with the man more. He is a absolute fundamental bold-faced liar, but he lies better than anyone I have ever seen. He is their best choice, Sean. He is their best choice. Again, I watched the debate with Ron DeSantis on Sean Hannity, and I kind of was like, maybe California is not so bad after listening to the lies of Gavin Newsom. He is so good. He looks the part. So, okay, if they want to win, he is the best choice, hands down. However, if you're a Democrat, you're like Kamala Harris, if she

doesn't get it now, she's not going away, right? And we're a party of DEI. We're going to have to deal with her at one point or the other. And so smart Democrats might go, aha, we are going to lose. Let's yes, let's give it to Kamala Harris. Let her be the sacrificial lamb. And then we can be done with this laughing, word repeating, idiotic vice president. And she can go back to California and we don't have to deal with her again. Again, if it was me, I would want her off stage. And this might be the way to do it. Give it to her.

Let her lose. And the other thing you can do, Sean, is say, let's take all of our money because we know she's going to lose. I'm not going to put bad money after good money after bad. Let's take all those resources and put them into House and Senate races and put up a firewall against all the executive orders and bills and everything

that Donald Trump wants to do to make America great again. I think that's a pretty well thought out idea of what's going to happen. Can I give you guys a wild card? I think that the whole situation surrounding the assassination,

it just gets fishier and even more inexplicable by the day. How do you think that plays into this election? The fact that a lot of people are really skeptical of the FBI in particular, of who's supposed to be investigating this, of the deep state. Any thoughts, Evita? Do I think that the deep state is going to try and interfere somehow? Is that what you're asking? Well, I just think that the public is going to demand answers in a way that maybe they

didn't initially with January 6th. They accepted the narrative that the media and the press put forward. Same with COVID. I think that there are so many lies being told and the distrust of institutions is so huge, particularly DOJ, FBI, intelligence state, the deep state, that I think this time, because it's so serious, everybody knows that had they shot Donald Trump in the head, the entire world would have changed. And it's just unacceptable to the American people. They want answers. And everything that we can see online, the videos that have come out, the eyewitnesses, none of it makes sense.

So you're right. These organizations have lost their credibility with the people. And I don't think anyone expects a real investigation from the DOJ, from the FBI. I don't think anybody believes that Congress is going to do a good job of investigating because go ahead i want to say dad that's the one who should talk about it because i saw you throughout the convention talking to all of your old colleagues what devon newness cash for towel all your old colleagues i was overhearing your conversations and part of it a lot of it was are we going to get to the bottom of it what did they tell you i don't have a lot of confidence. They're going to try. But I don't think they're able to actually... The Congress is not an investigative body.

That's not what they do. So they can do oversight over the investigative bodies. But the question becomes if they could take money and outsource for an independent agency to do the investigation. Are they going to do that?

I think since the assassination attempt, they've been at the convention. There's been a lot of distraction and a lot of focus, too, on how do we deal with this. But as you come into today, there's a lot more thought going into how do we navigate this? And what you're going to see is today's Congress, today's leaders are going to call old leaders, people who have been there, who've been through situations to say, how do we do this? What's the best approach on how we can get? Because, listen, it could have just been the Secret Service had a bad day. It could have been that. And if that's what it was, well, I want to know that.

And I want to know, how do we make sure this never happens again? Or was it something more insidious? Was this intentional to leave the best shooting platform anywhere around the venue of Donald Trump widely open? Was that intentional? It wasn't barricaded off. You put snipers not on the roof of that building. You put them in a sniper inside the building. The fact that then the excuse of why his snipers

weren't on that building were the slope and pitch of the roof. Pictures have now come out with cops when they went and got the body of the would-be assassin. They're just standing there like they're standing in a parking lot. There was no slope issue. The lies have already begun. And so I do think there is, if you don't want people to think this is a conspiracy and a concerted effort to assassinate Donald Trump, you better damn well do a really good investigation that's thorough, that's quick, and be transparent through the whole damn thing. And by the way, it should have started five days ago. And we haven't seen any

transparency. When the Secret Service got on a call with members of Congress two days ago, the problem is they took four questions. And then they ran out of, in air quotes, time. There is nothing more important than answering the questions of members of Congress on that call. You have, you don't have a scheduling conflict for members of Congress who have questions about an assassination attempt on a former president and the current nominee. But that's what they're telling them. Can I ask you guys if you've ever heard of these true crime, like 4chan and Reddit threads? Maybe not? No, fill us in. So there's a lot of cold cases over decades. And since the true crime phenomenon has sort of become, you know, a big subculture in America, there's been all these cold cases that have been solved by internet groups, by just citizen investigators. I don't think Congress is going to get to the bottom of this. I don't think the DOJ is. I actually think because of social media, because people are very skeptical

more than they were when JFK was assassinated, it's going to be regular people that, and it's already happening. Already it's regular people who have their iPhone footage and are saying we were recording them on the roof and we're telling the Secret Service agents and they're not doing anything. Already, we're seeing the narrative start to fall apart because citizen journalists, citizen investigators are picking apart the narrative and trying to get to the bottom of what happened. And I think it's going to be regular people getting to the bottom of it, just like it was regular people who ultimately have tried to poke holes in the magic bullet theory from JFK and other things that have happened in American history. I think that's a really interesting point, Avita. And by the way, they probably have more time and more expertise than members of Congress who know how to run campaigns, know how to raise money,

know how to write a bill, but don't know how to investigate a crime. And they'll spend hours into the wee hours of the morning looking at videos and then sharing information and questions that can get to answers. And again, none of this makes any sense. I want to, if I can, I want to talk just what it means today on Friday, the day after the convention. And I'm going to make two points. I was walking around the convention grounds talking to people on what they wanted to hear from Donald Trump. It was fascinating. on what they wanted to hear from Donald Trump. It was fascinating. They, so Republicans, convention goers, Trump lovers, they could have wanted Donald Trump to demand retribution. I want him to throw fire. I want to see anger. I want to see, I'm so,

I'm so upset and pissed off about what these people have done to our candidate and to our party. I want retribution. None of them said that. None of them. To a T, they were saying, I want Donald Trump to unify the party. I want him to unify the country. I want him to bring our country together. And that speaks volumes about the people who went to this country, to this convention. They love their country. And I thought what Tucker Carlson said at the convention was really important, that Donald Trump had an opportunity with this assassination attempt to inflame the country, to pour gas all over the country and light the match and explode the country. But he didn't do that.

He actually didn't say anything. He went to the hospital. They went back to bed minister and he remained quiet. Right. And it kind of let the temperature come down as people assess the media reported. But he didn't inflame anybody over the near death experience he had in Pennsylvania. That's a true leader. That's a man who cares about country, not about party or politics. Which, by the way, is the exact opposite of what Democrats do when there's a police shooting. They immediately go to inflame to

see how they can take political advantage of it. Sean, there's no question about that. And you're right. And look, I mean, let's be fair. Donald Trump, I want to believe that those were his intentions. I believe that was part of it. But also, you've got a convention coming up. You've got a big speech. You're going to get maximum people wanting to watch your speech. It's the first words about what had just happened, this massive tsunami type event happens and you're going to talk about it for the first time on the final most important night. Can I tell you what I thought, Sean, to your point? My best or my favorite moment captured, it was an interview, not with a celebrity, not with a politician, not with a member of the Trump family. It was with an old lady, an older lady who was at the front inside the convention hall.

She was interviewed and she said, I, and by the way, this was relayed to me by our daughter. And she said, I just saw something remarkable. And I've been trying to find the clip. She told it to me word for word. I'm going to convey it to you. The little woman. And she said, I just want to tell America that if you don't like Donald Trump, don't vote for him.

But please, please don't kill him. We love him. And I thought, this is the most insightful, beautiful, all-American commentary from the heart. If you don't like a candidate, don't vote for them. But please don't kill him because we love him. That's right. You know what? I don't like Barack Obama, but millions of Americans love Barack Obama. I really dislike the Biden family. I think they're corrupt and gross.

But millions of Americans love the Biden family. They don't you don't deserve to die because you step forward and offer yourself into public service, whether you're whether whether people, you know, on your side or on the opposite side detest you or not. That little lady said it right. If you don't like Donald Trump, don't vote for him. But please don't kill him because we love him. We'll have more of this conversation after this. The housing crisis in the GTA has reached a critical point with more than two and three residents being affected. Reporting that almost nine million Canadians are living in food insecure households.

Over one million people in the GTA now live below the poverty line. Just out today. Mental health support is the number one reason people are calling 211 for a... At United Way, we wake up to a different alarm every day. Help us end poverty and build a better GTA any way we can. Donate today at unitedwaygt.org. That's a really great point. And I think if the role had been reversed, Rachel, this would be the pretense for, again, the FBI to go, what kind of Republican groups can we further get into? They're domestic extremists, they're violent, they hate their country. 100% Sean. they use January 6th where no one died from the protesters.

People died from a heart attack. There's reasons why people died on scene, but not from the protesters. And you have had a target on the backs of conservatives. One person died, Sean. You're wrong. One person died. Ashley Babbitt, that's true. Ashley Babbitt, five foot one. Thank you for correcting me on that, Rachel. You're right. But this is

this is the difference. We're not, by the way, we should be targeting Antifa. We should be. I mean, the violence on the left, by the way, we would be all characterized as violent extremists. But by the way, as a reminder, when people left the convention in 2020 from the White House, the violence that came to people leaving the White House was profound. Dan Bongino was yelled at. They were saying horrible things to his wife, horrible, and trying to incite him to punch the crap out of him. And he didn't. Rand Paul was attacked. People were fearful walking to their cars because the left is violent. We've seen Antifa, what they've done to Portland, what they've done in Seattle.

They're violent. But the left has pivoted and tried to make the right violent. They tried to assassinate our candidate. But I want to go back to something else, my reflection on this convention. Republicans don't produce things well. We don't have Hollywood. I don't know who did this convention, but it was incredibly well produced. The videos, the messaging, the speakers, like this was that one of this is the best convention I've seen. And that's really important to note, because I want you to just take a trip down memory

lane with me. The 2016 convention with Donald Trump, no one thought or many people didn't think he was going to win. They thought it was it was a long shot of long shots. If you look at the polling, there's no way that Donald Trump could win in 2016. And then you had Mitt Romney running against Barack Obama in in in 2012. And that was, I mean, really challenging race. The convention was it wasn't as exciting. And that was, I mean, really challenging race. The convention wasn't as exciting.

And then you had John McCain in the first, in 2008, running against Obama. It wasn't a very exciting convention. It wasn't. The last exciting, great convention the Republicans had was in New York in 2004 for George Bush. It's been 20 years since Republicans had something to celebrate. This was a celebration of the candidate, of the messaging, and of the direction they want to take the country. And I thought you could feel that because they hadn't seen that and felt that for so long. You were four years old the last time there was a really good, four years old, the last time there was a really good, hopeful Republican convention.

Yeah, there was so much energy. It got a little long at the end of Trump's speech, but when we were hearing proud to be an American, when he had Kid Rock come out, I mean, it was, there were so many moments where I just felt something. And Van Jones actually said, I have a quote from him. The last time I was at a convention that felt like this was Obama 2008. There's something happening. And he's right. There was something happening last night that I have never experienced that I think, Dad, you're probably right. I think our party has not seen in a really long time.

our party has not seen in a really long time. And if he doesn't win, we know that there's going to be some there was insane stand against because the Democrats party does not have this energy, this this populist movement of people who are so just excited to rally behind a figure who took a bullet and then put his fist in the air and said, fight. And the whole crowd did, too. This is like something you you do not see every all the time. This is this is a really unique leader that we have at the helm of our party. And I don't know if the party will be the same after it. There's a lot of people who are trying to subvert Trump that don't like what he stands for, that don't like the way that he's altered the Republican Party. But what Trump has done is create something really powerful, and it was really evident last night. Well, look, there's four months left in this election.

As you said, the Republicans couldn't have done a better job. I mean, Donald Trump, a producer, everybody is on their toes because Donald Trump Is somebody who understands Good production value The Apprentice is one of the most Well produced reality television shows I've ever seen The opera at the end The opera at the end

Had a lot of significant meaning by the way I don't know if you guys have seen that But it was the end of a Of a movie where The bad guys, the deep state ends up getting executed, I believe. So interesting, interesting theme, but very patriotic, very meaningful, very well produced. The beginning of what I predict will be four rocky months, beginning with this weekend, Sean, of the possibility, maybe the probability that Joe Biden steps down. Final thoughts, Sean?

It's going to get wild. Very insightful final thought by me. But I want to tell our viewers, as we watched the speech, Rachel, you turned to me and said, how gracious of a man. He thanked Lee Greenwood. He thanked Dana White. He thanked Hulk Hogan. Kid Rock. Kid Rock.

He thanked all of these people for coming and being part of his convention and what they had done. By the way, that doesn't really happen. You don't go through all this list of people you wanted to thank who partook in this last thing. You mentioned that to me. I'm like, you know what? You're right, Rachel. That's exactly right.

Because he understands, Donald Trump understands that every one of those men took a lot of heat for standing up, personal heat, maybe even professional heat, for standing up with him. There's no politician that's ever been more persecuted than Donald Trump, but there are no voters that have been, and supporters that have been more persecuted than Trump supporters. And I think last night, in the wake of that assassination, and these trials, and the attempt to bankrupt him, the J6 prisoners still in jail, everything that's

happened last night was a beautiful vindication for them. And Donald Trump is right. It was a night of love. If you were there, you felt the vibes. As you said, it was more than patriotism. It was love and gratitude to God that Donald Trump was alive. I want to make one last note before we go. The final night, Thursday night of the convention, was opened by a prayer to the Archangel Michael. Vita, why don't you close out this podcast by praying the prayer to St. Michael that was said at the beginning of Thursday night,

the final night of the Republican convention. By the way, something, put that on your list of things that happened at the RNC convention that would never, ever happen at the DNC convention. Sure. He beat us on the spot here. You this why don't why don't you pray it okay say saint michael the archangel defend us in battle be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil may god rebuke him we humbly pray and do thou prince of the heavenly

host by the divine power of God thrust into hell, Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world, seeking the ruin and destruction of souls. That's a Catholic education right there. Amen. Amen. She may be 24, but when her mommy asked her to close out with a prayer,

she does it. I appreciate that. She, you guys can't see this, but she might give a look and then she'll do the prayer as mom asks. She loves this prayer. This is a powerful prayer. Well, I just want to know, why don't we all join in? And then she said, no, just you.

So, okay, I'll do it. All right. Listen, I want to, again, I want to thank you both for doing the podcast again. It was, it was, it was, I think it was a great night in the convention hall i think it had to be a great night watching this on tv which so many americans did um i want to thank you all for uh listening to the podcast we're going to continue to break down dissect uh what's happening through the course of this campaign and the cultural significance and the cultural play that happens over the next four months. Listen, if you like our podcast,

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we hope you all have a great weekend. We're all going to be watching. I need to plug my show. I just launched a new show under Dan Bongino's umbrella. It's called Bongino Report, Early Edition with Evita. You can go to Rumble or anywhere that you – it's Rumble Bongino Report to watch the video version. But you can download it anywhere that you download podcasts. So I want to plug that. I just started this Tuesday. So tune in.

I have an episode out today. It launched here at the convention. And boy, you had an incredible opening week. And we hope it continues. And we're really proud of you and your success. Thanks, Aviva. And you can also catch Rachel this weekend on Fox and Friends. And if you want Fox Business, the bottom line from 6 to 7 Eastern,

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