From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Q&A With The Duffys: The First Lady's Christmas Catastrophe
Episode Date: December 16, 2023Sean and Rachel weigh in on First Lady Jill Biden's White House Christmas video and compare it to one of former First Lady Melania Trump's, and share their thoughts on the testimony of prominent colle...ge presidents on the rise of antisemitism on campuses. Â Later, they answer listener questions, Sean and Rachel reveal little-known facts about themselves, talk about Hunter Biden's appearance in front of the Capitol Building, and advise on the best time to make your New Year's resolution. Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter:Â @SeanDuffyWIÂ &Â @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host
of the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy.
It's great to be back, Sean. It's our favorite time of the week. It's Q&A.
We've got some good questions,
but we can't start until we talk about this Jill Biden video that everyone is calling the Hunger Games video
because it really does look like the Hunger Games.
This is like Christmas video in air quotes.
Yeah, should we just play it?
And then for those,
and we'll come back and I'll describe it
for those who can't see it.?
?
? I'm going to go ahead and start. All right. So if you're not able to see this, if you're just hearing the podcast through audio,
you're seeing these like literally Hunger Games dressed dancers and they're sashaying and dancing throughout the
White House. And so like first ladies put out these videos around Christmas and usually they're
very sweet and elegant, right? Like they show the Christmas ornaments and they show the, you know,
the, you know, remember the beautiful gingerbread White House that they always do in the White House and the tree that usually comes from Wisconsin or Connecticut or someplace fabulous.
And they show the whole design that the First Lady does.
But it's it's tasteful.
And this.
The ornaments, the decorations.
And the First Lady has her touch, right?
The nativity is so beautiful.
Christmas music maybe playing in the background.
It puts you in the mood for Christmas, which is the celebration of the birth of Jesus.
Correct.
Is what we're talking about.
Correct.
Jill Biden, not so much.
No, not so much.
I'm not a tap aficionado.
There's a lot of tapping.
I'm not a big tap guy.
So, like, maybe I'm not the right one to ask, but I'm looking at these freaky looking figures tapping through the White House.
And I'm like, what the hell is this?
It's really weird.
It's supposed to be sort of some take on the nutcracker, but it's really hard to figure out.
It really does look like the Hunger Games.
of some take on the Nutcracker, but it's really hard to figure out. It really does look like the Hunger Games. And of course, the person, these dancers come from the Dorrance Dance in New York
City, and they're a tap-based dance company, and they perform this, you know, Nutcracker version
for the White House. But if you go to their website.
They don't just have.
Yeah, no, they don't just have,
they have a lot of political opinions.
They're social justice warrior dancers, okay, essentially.
So if you go to their page,
the site is dedicated to teaching white people.
This was the dance page, okay?
It's dedicated to, their whole troop is dedicated
to teaching white people to check their privilege, to quote, be mindful of who and what is financially supporting the candidates you vote for.
And they link to BLM and, you know, other social justice organizations that are organizing white people for racial justice, et cetera, et cetera.
They talk about white fragility. They also want to defund the police and defund prisons.
So this is a radical group.
They're the Antifa dancers.
They're the Antifa dancers.
Thank you for that.
The anarchist dancers.
No one gets into the White House without knowing the background of who the people are.
Of course, this is intentional.
The philosophy of these dancers matches the philosophy of Joe Biden and his administration.
It is radical beyond belief.
And again, the politics of this have no place at Christmas.
We used to have sports.
Sports was a time where we could all come together as just Americans, not red or blue.
We enjoyed watching sports, and they've infected sports with politics. was a time where we could all come together as just Americans, not red or blue. We were just,
we enjoyed watching sports and they've infected sports with politics. And Christmas was also a time where it's like, leave your politics alone. Leave your Satan somewhere else at Christmas.
Leave your woke politics somewhere else. Let us just celebrate the birth of Christ. And they can't
seem to do that, even Joe Biden and his administration. Again, he's the
great unifier, Joe Biden, the great unifier. This does nothing to unify America, bringing
the woke dancers, tappers to the White House. Well, you know what's interesting, Sean,
is their ideology, this woke BLM, anti-fag kind of social justice thing. It's ugly. And it comes out in the performance.
So what I was going to say is, you know, this was not a beautiful, you know, spirit lifting
performance. It reflects how ugly it is to inject politics into virtually everything,
which is, by the way, still communist, right? That's what the communists do.
All art has to have politics. I was really taken by the kind of attacks that
Melania Trump endured, especially around Christmas with her decorations. And they always,
I went to the White House during the Melania years and her decorations were gorgeous. I mean,
like breathtakingly gorgeous. I remember, I have-
I went to the Donald years.
Yeah, we went...
Well, they were the Melania years for me.
I remember walking down this corridor,
and she had all these snowflakes,
which is why I ended up purchasing snowflakes
that I hang from every archway in my house,
because I just love that look.
Of course, it's not as fabulous as Melania did it in this
gorgeous corridor. I mean, the whole thing was covered. Anyway, it was so gorgeous. And they
found a way to attack her. And I found this video of this was to contrast it with Jill's.
And you tell me who's more elegant and who really is thinking about people and about our traditions
and who we are as Americans founded on Judeo-Christian values.
And of course, Christmas being the bit, you know, one of the most beautiful Christian holidays there
is. Watch this and tell me what you think. Thank you. So again, if you're just listening, it is, she is so gorgeous and she is so elegant and it's so
sweet and she's showing the decorations and it's
a beautiful, you know, video meant for social media that gave you a taste of the White House,
made you feel like you were entered in. That's the point. The point isn't to educate me on some
sort of, you know, dance troupe. And, and really, I mean, it's so gauche what they did, the way the
dancers are, the, the, there's nothing beautiful about what I saw.
It just is like, it looked like a really cheap, I don't know, like not even Broadway, like off-Broadway thing.
It looks like a circus, actually.
You're right.
It looks like a circus scene.
Which actually maybe is a really great reflection of this White House.
costumes, circusy, which actually maybe is a really great reflection of this white house.
Ugly and circus like and and and not not uplifting, not edifying.
So anyway, I thought that was it was fascinating and should be noted.
And we did. And we did. We noted it. We did. We've noted our objection for the record.
Yes. We did not like it. We'll have more of this conversation after this.
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Can I bring up another thing that's happening, Rachel,
before we get to some questions?
There's a lot of conversation about the testimony
of the presidents of UPenn, of Harvard, and MIT in Congress.
America blows up because they can't condemn
what's happened on anti-Semitism.
So the presidents of these Ivy Leagues
who were testifying before Congress in Cleveland
bring themselves to say,
yeah, it's not cool to say genocide
when talking about the Jews on campus.
Context doesn't matter.
Might not make those kids feel safe on campus.
And so there's blowback.
So the president of UPenn, she lost her job.
However, the president of Harvard kept her job. And there's a lot of conversation about that. But I don't want to go into that point so much as it's not the president's. You and I have talked about this. the professors and the administrators of these universities that have been corrupting the minds of our kids. And it's interesting that America
now pays attention to going, oh my goodness, what's going on in American universities?
They're crazy. It's like, yeah, well, they've been crazy for decades and we've been pointing
that out. We've been- Conservatives have, yeah. Welcome to the party.
Now they're all seeing it. But it's interesting. Now on the Hill,
Republicans are going, you know what? We should address this. We should not be funding
these institutions. Something Sean Duffy's been saying for a long time.
Yes, I have. Why? I wonder why I want to bring this topic up. Nope. So Harvard, but Stanford,
Harvard, Harvard, Stanford, Yale, they all have massive endowments to the tune of billions of dollars.
Are they tax-free endowments, John? Why, yes, they are tax-free.
They don't pay taxes on those endowments.
So that's one gift that taxpayers give them.
Also, the taxpayer underwrites the loans for the students that go to those universities.
And Joe Biden actually wants to pay for those loans.
We're funding the education of the kids that go to those institutions.
And I think it's about time this country looks at what good do universities provide our country?
And what rot do they provide our culture?
And I'm at the point where I'm like,
we shouldn't fund this stuff. They're anti-American. They hate the Constitution.
They don't like the rule of law. They hate free speech. They hate guns.
They're partisan to the T. They want to censor speech. It used to be a place where there was truly a vigorous
sharing of ideas. That is long gone. It's about just indoctrinating. And kids aren't coming out
smarter. They're coming out more radical, but dumber than when they went in. Why do we fund
this? We should stop funding comic camps. So two points. One, when you talked about the endowment, I kept thinking about
how during the time of COVID, when so many families were struggling and couldn't keep up
with payments, they were sitting on these fat, I mean, these are mad. Some of these endowments
are more than most countries bring in their GDP. And they're sitting on these endowments
and they didn't give a break to the students with tuition,
even though these kids were in Zoom classes
and getting less for their money.
And then on top of it, they did no loan forgiveness.
Like they could have forgiven the loans.
They could have given breaks to the parents.
They also weren't providing services.
So like they shut down like the gyms and, you know, these country club gyms that so many of
these universities have now that they, you know, use to justify their big expensive tuition costs.
They weren't providing those services. And yet the kids were getting charged the same
amount that they were getting charged when the schools were running, you know, in the normal way
pre-COVID. So they did nothing to help with these endowments. They just sat on these endowments.
They didn't tap into the endowments to help out with the tuition for the kids.
So there was that part of it. So I thought I was not paying attention.
No, I know you weren't. But I pulled up. So Harvard has a $50.9 billion endowment.
Over $50 billion.
$50 plus billion.
Yale, $41 billion for an endowment.
The national universities with the biggest endowments,
they're nearly $21 billion on average. So this is massive
amounts of money. By the way, they're charging kids $65,000 a year to attend their universities.
And so it does beg the question, why are we taxing that?
Right. And what I was going to say, Sean, is that you've made this decision, you and I made this decision personally. We've looked out at what good does a,
you know, Ivy, we had a kid that went to a University of Chicago, a very prestigious
university by American standards. And we looked at even the state colleges and we're like,
these colleges aren't providing an education. They're only indoctrinating. They hate us. They want to take our values. They want to take everything that we've instilled our children into the last 18, 20 years. And they want to turn that on its head and turn us into the enemies. No, I'm not going to give you that money. And so, yeah, why wouldn't Congress, especially Republican members of Congress, look at the universities and say, these are commie machines. These are
commie indoctrination machines. Why are we funding it? They're actually undermining
the foundation of the country. It's not just that they're turning out a bad product,
but the product are young people who are going to run our country who now don't believe in the
Constitution, who now, you know, think that social justice should be injected into the criminal justice system, which was the gem of our United States of America.
Now that's been turned on its head and we're turning out kids from law schools who are steeped in all of this woke stuff and not in our Constitution.
So, yeah, they're undermining our country.
Your colonialism and Western civilization has ruined the world.
And Christianity is so negative.
I mean, all these issues are so backwards.
And, again, I'm happy that the Congress is looking at it.
Hopefully, they'll address it.
You talked about our kids.
And there's something about having a credential.
that you talked about, our kids, and there's something about having a credential. And there's some, there's still a little shiny, you know, medal you get for going to Harvard and graduating
from Harvard. I think that still exists. Oh, it sure does. It's a club. And if you're in that
club and you get, it doors open for you. There's no question about it. It means less today, I think,
than it did, you know, 15, 20 years ago. That's very true. And so as our daughter went to UChicago, we thought, wow, that was really great. She got in and, you know, it's
a hard university, but the stuff she's learning, the scholastic work was hard, but the content in
which she was learning was garbage. And after that experience, we said, you know what? Not all of it.
She took, there were a few closeted professors that came out, by the way. The ones that were tenured can come out of the closet ideologically, but there are very
few who are between.
And by the second, third year, she figured out who they were and she could navigate to
try and find some interesting perspectives that were different than all the Marxism that
was being fed to her as not Marxism, but the way things are in her freshman and sophomore year.
So by her senior and junior year, she was able to navigate.
But trust me, she had to do what all of your kids have to do,
starting in junior high all the way through college,
which is if they want a good grade, a lot of them have to begin to make those choices.
Do I want a good grade, a lot of them have to begin to make those choices. Do I want a good grade?
I better spew the Marxist party line that my professors want,
or I can say what I think and get punished for it in terms of my grades
or even in terms of my treatment in that class by my professors and also by my fellow students.
So these are the kinds of waters that normal kids are navigating.
Troubled waters.
Troubled waters.
All right.
But we had our second one.
We said, we don't care about the credentials.
We want the good education.
I want her to come out smarter than when she went in.
And I think we've learned that lesson.
And that's what we look for now
is a school that's going to enlighten their minds, make them better citizens, and not undermine Western civilization values and the Duffy value.
Actually build that value up.
And so, again, good on Republican.
So she's at?
Good on University of Dallas.
We ended up sending her to the University of Dallas, which is a classical Catholic university.
But there are other classical universities, non-Catholic as well, who, and, you know,
Hillsdale College, by the way, is a fabulous choice for people. If you want your child to
be steeped in the Federalist Papers and the Constitution and sort of what was, and, you know,
Aristotle and Socrates and Plato and great English literature and, you know, just the best great books of our time and of all time.
Then you have to seek out these kinds of universities.
And we have podcasts dedicated to that.
And I hope you can go into our library and find them.
that. And I hope you can go into our library and find them. We have everyone from Victor Davis Hanson giving his list of universities he would pick to us discussing with Pete Hegseth why this
is so important to be educated in this. Listen, we also have a child who went to college in the
middle of COVID and said, I'm not doing it. I don't like this experience, which I tried to say COVID has
a big impact on the experience, but in the end decided this isn't a good value for me. I want
to be a filmmaker and he's doing his thing too. So, you know, I think maybe 10 years ago, I might
have been more upset about that. Like you're not going to college. And now I'm like, you know,
okay, if that's your choice, that's your choice. And it's not that I've become loosey goosey. It's that I've become disillusioned with the product.
And he was at UW Madison. And I don't want my tax dollars going to fund abortion. I don't want
my tax dollars going to fund communists. It's very simple. I mean, you might twist my arm on,
you know, EV chargers. I'm like, I don't want that, but I'm like my arm on, you know, EV chargers.
I'm like, I don't want that.
But I'm like, OK, but, you know, is that ruining America?
Yes.
The mandate, the mandates are, but the EV charger itself is not.
The mines come out of these schools and abortions are ruining America.
So I'm sorry.
That's I'll leave it at that.
But that's there's no place.
So Republicans fight on, fight hard, take the tax breaks away from these universities.
And maybe they'll wake up and go, huh, we should be more America-loving, America-based.
And maybe just care more about diversity of thought instead of diversity of skin colors.
Equity and inclusion.
Equity, yeah. Maybe the equity inclusion should extend to people with different opinions.
Equity, the word equity is being used all over the map.
Just like four years ago, what is equity?
Yeah.
When I was talking about equity, I'm like, we kept hearing it.
And equity sounds like equality, very different things, and they're using equity all over the map.
Yeah.
It means equal outcomes and not equal opportunity.
And that is a very, very different,
those are two very different systems.
It's a very communist philosophy.
We'll have more of this conversation after this.
Okay, so let's talk about this.
What is the one thing, this is one of the questions,
what is something about you, Sean,
that people would be surprised to know about?
So can I say a couple? Sure. I'm going to say two. Okay. people would be surprised to know about?
So can I say a couple?
Sure.
Let me say two.
Okay.
So I love flying model airplanes.
I did that when I was, you know, 12, 13 years old. You do?
He still flies in the summer.
Now I'll fly them in the summer.
I love that.
But more recently, I started cold plunging.
So I've heard all, so my, your sister,
and then our daughter started cold plunging. So I've heard all, so my, my, uh, your sister, and then our daughter started
cold plunging. Our daughter cold plunges in ice water, in lake water that, cause she lives,
um, by a lake and she, um, she actually gets, she cut her and her husband cut a hole in the lake
and they go submerge themselves in the ice. Um, so I'm going to see them this weekend. I might try that.
But I'm like, I'm doing 50 degree. We're definitely going to take a video on that.
I'm doing 50 degree water, which when I did have a thermometer, I'm like, this has got to be like almost freezing.
And I got a thermometer.
It's like, no, it's like 47 degrees.
I'm like, oh my, it's so cold.
So Sean bought a tub off of Amazon.
So he keeps it in the garage.
He keeps the water in there
with the lid over it.
And then it stays cold.
Obviously it's outside.
I was doing it in our bathtub.
Yeah.
And you had,
for some reason,
as you slink down in your bathtub,
it was much harder
than having it outside
in like the,
the cold plunge tub.
The water stays in there.
But I,
I'm going to tell you what, I don what, there's a lot of people who sing
the benefits of cold plunging. When I do it, I get out and I have so much more energy.
Is that why you do it for the energy?
Well, I don't know. There's something mental about it. There's something very masculine about
sitting in there and who can sit in the longest and getting out and being cold. And you're supposed to let you, it's not supposed to,
you know, go into like a hot shower. You gotta let your, your, your body warm itself back up.
So you shiver your way. I shiver my way back into, um, it really, it is. And then it's supposed to
help with inflammation. Also, I haven't seen that yet, but I do, it's like drinking a pot of coffee
once you do it. Oh, you get that kind of, you get that energy that high. Like, is it an adrenaline
thing? Cause what I heard is that when you're in, this is my understanding. Tell me if I'm wrong.
My understanding is you go into this ice cold water and all the blood in your body goes towards
your organs because your organs need them to survive. And that process of
the blood going to your organs is where, and then eventually back out into your body, that process
is what is the health benefit. And then also, I guess-
Is that right?
That's positive.
Why would that be positive?
I'm going to tell you that we should bring an expert on and talk about this.
Yeah, no, no. I did because- I'm telling you what i'm like i'm no no we're going to bring on in the
new year we're going to have a little bit more of a health focus coming into the new year yeah
and i'm i'm i've tracked down an expert on ice plunge the reason is because sean talks all the
time about how great it is and our daughter does my sister does everyone loves this ice and everybody who knows Rachel
Campbell stuffy knows um if you know me at all you know that I hate I'm literally the ultimate
Arizona girl I hate being cold I mean literally like my version of hell is not a burning place. It's because that's my happy place. It's a cold place.
And so the idea, I mean, at work, I have a heater in my office. I have a heater by my feet next to
my couch. I have to keep it away from Will and Pete because they're like, stop, you know,
it's like too hot in here. And studios are cold and I hate cold studios because they have to keep them cold
because of all the lights. So suffice it to say, I hate being cold. And so I actually need to have
an expert to convince me that this is worth doing because it just to just feel like a pot of coffee,
like I'll just have a pot of coffee. Like I don't need to get cold. So I'm going to tell you what
my experience has been and what I've heard. So I'm going to tell you what my experience has been and what I've heard.
So two, I'm going to give you two answers. So one, when you shiver your way back into being warm
again, it does something with white fat turning into brown fat. And why do you want white fat
versus brown fat? I guess brown fat is better than white fat. And if you're a plunger expert
and you're listening to this, you're like, come on, you guys, you should. So I apologize. I'm
just telling you what I've read. However, I get cold too.
I've been getting, for some reason,
I've been getting cold recently, more chilled.
And since I've been doing the cold plunge,
I don't get cold as much.
It's like my body does a better job of heating itself up
when it feels a little cold.
It's like it's got a better heat engine in it
because I've been working it over in the cold plunge.
So anyway, I've been doing that and it's been,
I've been enjoying that. Now we've done podcasts. I'm doing the carnivore thing. I haven't
really, I haven't bought that yet. And that's Sean O'Mara who did that podcast with us was
really convincing. I might try that though. After the first of the year, I might see how it goes.
Give it like a six week trial run. All right. I like that idea. I haven't done it yet though.
All right. I like that idea.
I haven't done it yet, though.
On something people might not know about me is that I was on The Price is Right.
Now, if you're really young, you probably don't know what The Price is Right.
But if you're over the age of, I don't know, 45, you might know what The Price is Right is. And it was a game show.
And when I was 18, I participated in The Price is Right.
And I made it to the showcase showdown.
And I won a trip to Brazil.
And I won a stove.
And it's kind of a quirky thing about me.
But it was actually my first time on television.
So how did you actually get on the showcase? How did you get selected?
Because there's a big audience. So I was living in an Air Force base in Bakersfield, an Edwards Air Force base at the time. My dad was in the military. I had just graduated from high school.
And I was working at MWR, World Welfare and Recreation, on the Air Force base. And they
would do these trips for the soldiers and their families into L.A.
And because I worked there, they said, hey, you want to go on one of these trips with us?
And I said, OK, sure, I'll go.
And so one of these trips went to Universal Studios and I went to Universal Studios and it was for the taping of The Price is Right.
And so as you go in, there are like a couple of producers that are on like those very traditional like producer
director uh stools you know you know which ones i'm talking about you see in the movies where they
go cut um and as you would go through they would take you in packs of i don't know like six five
six people they ask you a few questions and just based on what they how you responded or what your
personality was like or what you look like i I don't know what their criteria was.
They secretly selected the amount of people they needed to do the show.
And so the way this show works, if you're young and you don't know how the Price is Right works,
is there's several rounds and they call your name and everyone's really surprised.
They'll say, Sean, Duffy, come on down.
And everyone's really excited because you just came to LA
you're probably not from LA
and Universal Studios and you're from out of town
and you get called on to be on TV
and like me it would have been your first time on TV
and so I knew the show
I mean if you were my age
and you were ever sick at home
of course you watch
you watch Underdog
you watch The Price is Right you watch, you watch underdog. And like we would sit there, watch the prices, right.
All together and soap operas.
And so I knew what the price was and I knew what people did when people would
get their name called, they throw their hands in the air.
You all reacted the same.
They all put their hands in the air and they screamed and went and they
ran down the stairs to take their their place at the at the stage
in front of the stage where they can begin to bid on products and so i told myself they all
kissed bob barker and they all kissed bob barker and so um i and bob barker all had this very skinny
long microphone and um so anyway they called my i made a deal with myself I said if they call my name I'm
not going to act like these crazy people like that's ridiculous I'm way too cool for that I'm
18 and you know I'm going to college soon and um so they said Rachel Campos come on down and of
course it's weird like I threw my hands up and I screamed and I did everything everybody else did.
And I waved them in the air.
And I went into my place and I was going to kiss Bob Barker.
But he had this giant cold sore on his mouth.
I was like, I don't think so.
And so I did the show.
Part of the story.
Yeah, there was a cold sore.
I put a ball to that. I was like, did the show. That's part of the story. Yeah, there was a cold start. I put a ball to that.
I was like, skip the kiss.
But other than that, I reacted as every other tourist.
So you made it to the Showcase Showdown, which means you got...
I didn't make it to the very end.
I spun the wheel.
I didn't make it to the Showcase Showdown.
I made it to the wheel where you spin the wheel.
And I did win a trip to Brazil and I won the stove that I,
that I ended up bidding on.
And I didn't take the trip to Brazil because I was such a broke college student that you actually had to pay taxes on this as I came to realize.
And I just didn't have the tax money.
And I guess I wasn't,
it wasn't a big enough deal for me to like,
you know, want to make that money. I probably needed it for something it wasn't a big enough deal for me to like, you know,
want to make that money.
I probably needed it for something else.
And so I never went to Brazil.
But you took the stove?
I took the stove and I don't know if I gave it to somebody or sold it.
I don't know what I did.
Wow.
Craziness.
So that's, that's, that's that.
Let me give you.
The showcase showed up.
Maybe we could be fun.
Do you have that video?
You know, my mom has it somewhere.
And I just, I just don't know where it's at.
But, but you know what, you know, who really wants it is Fox and Friends. They've been asking me because, you know, Bob Barker died not too long ago.
And we talked about him and my time on The Price is Right. And so anyway,
here's another question for you, Sean. What do you think about Hunter Biden's appearance on Capitol
Hill? So this was really interesting. He was called by Congress, right, to come in and give
essentially a deposition. They didn't want to do a traditional hearing,
five minutes for a Democrat, five minutes for a Republican,
because, you know, nothing gets accomplished.
And they really wanted to dig in and ask some questions.
So they said, we're going to do it behind closed doors.
And Hunter, because he's Hunter, right?
Like, he's like, I don't have to do that.
And so-
My last name is Biden.
My last name is Biden.
I hear blanks with Bidens.
No one blanks with the Bidens.
Remember, his dad famously said that.
So he set up his own press conference on the Senate side, I think.
Not the House side.
I didn't like the House members.
He set up a press conference there.
And he basically said, you know, the Republicans are really mean to me.
They make fun of my recovery.
They're misconstruing my emails and all these documents.
It's not what you think.
I'm a really great guy.
I'm the light of my dad's life.
And you're turning that love and that light into darkness.
I'm not exaggerating. That is what he said.
So to take a step back, so he was subpoenaed, right? And some people might think that if you
get a congressional subpoena, well, not that big of a deal. You don't show up. Nothing happens to
you. Well, after January 6th and some of the witnesses didn't show up like Steve Bannon and
Peter Navarro, they didn't show up because Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro. They didn't
show up because of like Peter Navarro specifically, I think was like, I have executive privilege. I'm
not going to come and testify. Anyway, they were held in contempt of Congress for not showing up
per a subpoena. And then that was referred to the Department of Justice and the Department of
Justice prosecuted both of them and convicted both of them. And so Joe Biden was actually asked
about that. And he said, if you don't show up for a subpoena to the Congress, you should
be prosecuted. So we should apply that standard to Hunter. He was given a duly issued subpoena
from the Congress. He came to the Hill, but he was saying, I'm going to tell you, here's the deal.
You're not going to tell me how I'm going to testify. I'm going to tell you how I'm going
to testify. And I'm going to do it, you know, in a committee hearing and I'll do it publicly
as opposed to doing it behind closed doors. And here's the deal. When Democrats did the J6
hearings, they did the interviews behind closed doors first.
And then later they would let the witnesses come and testify in public.
And you made a good point.
So when you watch congressional hearings, each side, each member, Democrat, then Republican, Democrat, Republican, they switch off five minutes each.
And you don't really get good.
It's really frustrating to watch sometimes because you don't get good information from the witnesses. Behind closed doors, it's
almost like a deposition. And there's much more time. So you might, they'll agree to this beforehand,
but each side might take a half an hour or 45 minutes to ask questions of the witness so they can really drill in to get the details from Hunter
or whoever was testifying that you don't get in an open hearing. And Hunter Biden did not want to
have that situation, that scenario. And because, and this is why I thought, I didn't think he was
going to testify. I thought he was actually going to plead the fifth instead of opening himself up
to more criminal liability in the House. But there's no way that Hunter is going to plead the fifth instead of opening himself up to more criminal liability in the House.
But there's no way that Hunter is going to have good answers for the questions that the House has for him in regard to, again, the references to the big guy.
You know, the $200,000 check that was allegedly a loan that came from Jim Biden to Joe Biden. I think he took out $1.5
million a year in cash. What do you do with that much cash? They counted for it. I mean,
the amount of money that he spent on hookers and adult entertainment was astounding. I believe in one year it was like $700,000
that we know of. They have records of those payments for the adult entertainment. So whether
that's checks or credit card statements, they can say this hundreds of thousands of dollars
went to this debauchery. But when you take out cash, that reminds me of Bob Menendez who had cash and gold bars in his house.
The way you pay your father is in cash.
Yes.
Right?
You take cash out so that you can't trace it.
You can't trace cash.
You can trace a check.
You can trace a money transfer.
But you can't trace the check. You can trace a money transfer, but you can't trace the cash. So I have to imagine
something was going on with payments. That's why he had so much cash there.
Because he wasn't afraid. Hunter wasn't afraid to go buy drugs, right? And to get prostitute
and to join sex club. He was not trying to hide it from his wife.
He wasn't trying to hide it from the public
and therefore try to pay for it in cash.
He was completely, you know,
he was actually writing a lot of the stuff off on his taxes.
Yeah, he was writing that off.
So when you do something different,
when you go get the cash,
why are you doing that and what are you trying to hide?
Because if I'm going to get prostitutes
and I'm using cash, you might go, I'm going to use cash so you can't see the are you trying to hide? Because if I'm going to get prostitutes and I'm
using cash, you might go, I'm going to use cash so you can't
see the credit card statement, right?
He wasn't worried about that.
By the way,
absolutely, and by the way,
these payments, even to
the prostitutes, I think it's worth
noting that now they say
that these are probably sex-trafficked
women as well, So you have that on
top of it as well. But then also Joe Biden paid, there was a paying, Jim Biden says that he paid
Joe Biden back for a loan. Well, Jim Biden made a lot more money than Joe Biden. Joe Biden is a
public servant. That doesn't make sense. They're just none of this stuff makes sense. And the shell companies and the shell companies in the name of granddaughters. I
mean, my dad's never taken out a shell company in the name of our kids. I mean, that's just weird
stuff. So it's there's so much smoke. It's there's absolutely fire. And but they think they can get
away with it. And by the way, when Peter Navarro, for
those of you who don't know who Peter Navarro was, his position in the administration was-
He was an economic advisor. He was not the economic advisor, but he was an advisor to
the president. He was an economist. Former professor.
Yep. He was- Truly one he, um, he was a former Democrat who was like very, became very
hawkish on China because he understood that the threat of China, but also the threat of China
on American workers. So he was one of the people that helped Donald Trump really build out his,
you know, plan to bring back American manufacturing. He was part of the America First strategy.
And really highly focused on China.
How do we get things from China back to America?
Yes.
He was also involved in the Operation Warp Speed,
not in regard to the development of a vaccine,
but what are you doing with masks?
What are you doing with all these-
Supply chain stuff.
Supply chain stuff?
That's right.
So they prosecuted Peter Navarro, who was actually working in the White House at the time, and said, listen, I'm not going to come and testify for your J6 hearing because I'm covered under the executive immunity.
The court said, no, I think he's going to appeal that.
But they arrested Peter Navarro.
For not coming in for the same kind of hearing that they wanted Hunter to go to.
They arrested him. I think it was at Washington Reagan.
Airport.
Airport. And put him in shackles.
In front of people.
And paraded him out publicly through the airport to arrest him. Now, they could have come to his house. They could have grabbed him before I went to the airport, but they wanted a public display of shack. Not only that, Sean, Peter
Navarro's apartment is right near the FBI. It's right next to the FBI building. He happens to
have an apartment near there. He's like, they didn't have to humiliate me and take me out in
that way. But they did. I've seen it. You can actually see the FBI. Yes, from his apartment. From his balcony.
Yeah.
We'll wait until you get to the airport.
We'll arrest you there.
Yeah, we'll wait until you get there
and humiliate you.
They could have called him and said,
hey, why don't you come down to the FBI?
We're going to take you into custody.
You would have walked down there.
He would have walked down there.
But they want the pomp and the circle.
Will that happen to Hunter?
Will FBI SUVs show up like they did
for so many other conservatives over the last couple of years with guns blazing?
Absolutely not.
This is the best example of what a two-tier system looks like.
And nothing will happen to Hunter.
I hate to say it, and nothing will.
And part of it is going to be we're going to see whether Joe Biden stays in office or not in order to protect his son and use the powers of the
government to protect himself and his son. I disagree with you. So if a Republican wins
the White House and there's new leadership in the Department of Justice and the FBI,
and there will be, there are no breaks for anybody because of your politics.
There are no breaks for anybody because of your politics.
If you're the opposition party, usually, I mean, we go back to Hillary Clinton.
She had classified documents on her server.
She bleach-bitted a server that there was a preservation request for.
She was supposed to preserve it so we could see it.
She bleach-bitted it.
Felony crimes.
And Donald Trump and I actually agreed to something to go, you know what?
This is really bad for America. If you win and you go after the person that you beat, it'll destabilize the country and it creates far more problems than positive outcomes of this thing.
outcomes of this thing. And so in hindsight, maybe that was wrong because we now have a system where if there's any small violation, whether it's Hunter or Joe or anyone in that administration,
they should go after them. They should arrest them. I don't think they will do it though. I'm
just sorry. I'm sorry. I don't believe it will ever happen because Republicans just don't have
the same. I don't think it's going to happen because he said if Donald Trump's elected, he's going
to leave the country.
He's going to flee.
He's going to flee the country.
That might be a good thing.
He's going to be prosecuted.
There's a lot of countries he can go to.
There's like Ukraine, Russia, China, a lot of places where he's got deep business ties.
Actually, who was it?
Was it the documents from the Chinese that came out that said that he's really stupid?
Or was it the Ukrainians who said that really he's only worth the connection to Joe and that he's really stupid?
That's the guy they paid almost $100,000 a year to be on the board of Burisma.
Almost a million dollars a year, $800,000 a year.
Okay, last question, Sean.
What, I know we haven't
gotten through Christmas, but are you thinking about
your New Year's resolutions and what
will they be? Oh my gosh.
I haven't really thought about my New Year's
resolutions,
but I should start.
I haven't been really,
I'm not really good at setting a
resolution and keeping it. I do think you can't just pick a date and go, I'm going to, you know,
I'm going to do this up until the 31st. And then on the 1st, I'm going to start anew. And I'm going
to, I just think that at one point you got to be committed and go, if I have a resolution today,
why would I wait to start on January 1st? I'd
go like, I'm going to start doing this right now. Do you have a resolution?
Well, it's the same one as always. I keep saying I'm going to do more weightlifting
and more things to build my muscles. And so because I'm getting older. I love cardio, but cardio is not enough after 50. And so that's, you know,
what I want to work on. And so a couple of things have happened. I've, I made an appointment to try
and take Pilates. I have a couple of friends who take Pilates and say that it's really great
and that you don't have to do it very often in order so i'm also going to try that before christmas i have an appointment um to try that see if that's going to work for me maybe i'll do that
um and then we had anna coyman on she used to be on box and friends in the weekend she had a website
uh that it's like a it's like an app for a workout app for moms. And so her and I talked and I'm going to, I haven't started yet, but I'm going to get
started on that.
And I'm going to just try and be healthier.
And the other thing I want to try and do is my day gets very busy.
And I think the most important thing I could do in my life is wake up early during the
week.
I already wake up at 2.45 in the morning on the
weekends for work. I can do it. I know I can do it. But the question is, why doesn't Rachel Duffy
do that during the week? And I wish I could because I could work out early. I could get
so much done. And it's just something I need to do. And I, I, I'm just, I don't have to get up at
2 45 when I say Friday, but if I just got up at four, four 30 or even five, I get a workout in
before the kids are up at six. And that is, that is going to be my goal. I mean, literally that
is my goal. And I could find time to do my morning prayers. I could work out, I get a load of laundry
in and just get ahead of my day. Cause I always feel like I'm behind the gun. So I'm going to come back to this point with you,
and I'm going to make this point to make a point with you. So I had shoulder surgery at the end of
August. And so I haven't been able to work out for months. I've just started to work out again.
And it's really horrible when you haven't done it for a long time to start going again. And
because my shoulders hurt, I'm only using light weights, but I'm, I'm, it feels good to get
back in the routine. But, but the difference between the two of us is I make it a priority.
I'm like, if, if it's a workout day, I'm, there's things I have to do. I've got, I've got meetings
or I have calls. Um, I have a hit, but I'm going to make sure. A hit means a TV hit. A TV hit.
Yes, to do a TV segment.
I'm going to do a podcast, but I'm going to make sure that I find time to actually do
a workout.
And I think about it a lot.
Like, I got to get my time.
And because it's a priority, I do it.
Rachel, on the other hand, she puts her workout gear on.
And then miraculously, she'll find everything possible that she has to do that's more important than working out.
Right.
You'll go like, I've got to.
I'm finding stuff to do.
It's not like I want to do the laundry.
It's just that you can go and work out and never think for a second about the fact that there's laundry and there's dishwashers and there's emails.
So, yeah, I do.
The dishwasher and the laundry and the email
will still be there after the workout.
That's true.
But if you don't do the workout,
that time, that window will open and close
and then you don't...
That's true.
Once the kids come home, I can't do it.
You can't do it.
So I think you have to...
Actually, once the kids come home,
I have a hard time getting the laundry done
and doing all...
And I'm trying to get everything right.
I basically, I send them off to school
and then I spend the rest
of the day preparing for them to come home. So, you know, that's just the way it goes. In fact,
like during this podcast, I've been thinking I've got to go take the vegetables. I'm going to make
some minestrone soup for when they come home from school. And, you know, I'm just, I can't help it.
I have this thing in my brain and it just keeps going and it keeps going. And
like, there's this great meme that I saw on, I guess it was on Instagram or something.
And it was so funny because it showed like a woman loading the dishwasher and then it showed
her thought bubble. And her thought bubble was like, like a list, like that running list that
I'm telling you that I have like going all the time in my head. And then they showed her husband
loading a plate in the dishwasher and his thought bubble was loading plate and dishwasher. And I
think that is the difference between men and women and especially moms. And so, okay. So,
but it's, but, but the point is for me,
if I got up early, I think my, my life would be better.
And I know I can get up early cause I do it every weekend.
I'm just going to do it.
That is a great thing. I'm just going to, before we go,
one last thing this weekend, I'm going to back to Wisconsin.
And I'm going to go to the Wasail,
which is my family's done this for shoot 40 years.
And I'm going to be with okay so the
west so let's explain you can't just throw a sale out and that is me the was sale in northern
wisconsin occurs in a beautiful victorian house in bayfield wisconsin it's one of the beautiful
parts of wisconsin it is gorgeous it looks like a little east Coast fishing town, really.
And there are beautiful old Victorians because that used to be a very wealthy shipping port area when we used to use the Great Lakes.
And there is an old Victorian house there called the Rittenhouse with an R.
And they are bed and breakfast, but in the winter, they um the best singers local the best local singers in the area and they want to be part of the singing troupe so they come from very far and um during
the season they will get together in and they will practice and they're this acapella group that sings
old english um christmas songs here we go, we're sailing.
Right, and then you go to the Rittenhouse for lunch or for dinner,
and the singers come and they walk through.
And I have gone many, many, many, many years,
probably for 15, 20 years with Sean.
Figgy putting in the boar's head.
You feel like you're in a Dickens novel, right?
Except you're the rich people, not the poor people.
Because you're in, you're in this nice Victorian and you're having a nice meal.
So you're not the poor little match girl outside looking through the window.
But it is, it puts you in the Christmas spirit.
So, so when I did this, when I was like 12 years old, I thought this was so dumb at 12.
And I didn't know the music or the songs.
But I went because my mom and dad did it every year. There's a little Christmas gift they would give the kids that wanted to go. 12 years old, I thought this was so dumb at 12. And I didn't know the music or the songs,
but I went because my mom and dad did it every year. There's a little Christmas gift they'd give the kids that wanted to go. And a lot of people didn't want to go to this thing, but you go year
after year after year. And all of a sudden, you now know all the songs and you know, the whole
routine that they do at this, at this little venue. And this year, my mom was like, you know what? I want as many of my kids
to come home and do this with me.
So I'm flying back to Wisconsin.
His mom rented a bus
because she wants everyone
to stay close to Carol's
all the way to Bayfield.
We're going to Carol
our whole way up to Bayfield
and Carol our whole way home.
And by the way,
that's his mom's name, Carol.
Carol.
Which is kind of cute.
By the way, during COVID,
they shut that place down because of COVID.
And because the owners are liberal.
That's just saying.
The whole town is liberal.
I was about to say that earlier when you said it's a quaint little East Coast town.
I'm like, yes.
It was very liberal.
But anyway, they closed it down.
They were a little excessive and so the duffies though
um recreated the wassail at their home and we got to be part of it we went i believe my parents were
there my parents even came on to it was recreated at your mom's house actually i'm gonna say that
was actually my favorite wassail and just i think i that day we had to get, I drove home and it was snowing out.
It was a snowstorm or something.
Because of COVID, you did Fox and Friends the next morning from our studio in the basement in Wausau.
You're right.
I probably did.
It was crazy.
But I was not going to miss it.
But I was not going to miss it.
And this year, I have to work because I'm taking off for Christmas,
for the 23rd and 24th, to be with our immediate family.
But Sean is going with our daughter and our son-in-law, Michael, and they're going to represent the family at the wassail.
But let me tell you what, I'm very jealous.
I really wanted to go.
Big family, they're all going to be there.
No, not most of them are going to be there, not all.
Almost every sibling. There's 11
brothers and sisters,
mom and dad. A lot of the
grown-up grandchildren are now
going.
We'll do a little
more Christmas next week
as we come into
this wonderful
holy
time of year. We want to thank
you for, this is just kind of
all over the map. It is all over.
It's like our life. Our life
is all over the map. It's like
crazy politics,
kids, faith,
messes,
house, housework, work.
It's just, it is, I tell you what, for those of you who are single and thinking about having a family, it's a happy mess.
It's a mess.
It's chaotic.
It's a happy, hot mess.
It's a very happy, hot mess.
And I wouldn't have it any other way.
All right.
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