From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Q&A With The Duffys: Weighing In On The Expulsion Of George Santos

Episode Date: December 2, 2023

Sean and Rachel answer listener questions, from what they think of the expulsion of former Congressman George Santos, to the latest comments by Felicity Huffman on the Varsity Blues scandal. Sean explains why he believes the Republican conference in the House is wasting their majority, discusses what voter issues they should be addressing, and Rachel answers a question about the growing political divide in the dating world.   Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campbell-Stuffy. It's great to be back. Q&A today on a good, cold Friday. It's a good Q&A day. So, we've gotten people writing us with some questions that are in the headlines right now that are very interesting. So they are, well, first of all, one of them is what you think about the George Santos vote and how you would do it differently or think about it having fit in Congress, which I think is really interesting. So we're going to get to that. Also, Salon writing about some new polling that young women don't want to date people who have voted for Donald Trump or support Donald

Trump. We've seen that, by the way, in some of the dating apps. We've talked about it, but we talked about it on Outnumbered. And boy, Media Matters and Daily Beast and all the liberal people are really mad at what I had to say. So we're going to talk about that. But before that, we're going to talk about Felicity Huffman. Now, do you guys remember her? She is a pretty famous actress. She was on Desperate Housewives, and she was caught up in the Varsity Blues college scandal, if you recall, with Lori Loughlin from Full House. These are two very rich Hollywood ladies, moms. Elites. Elites who paid to get their daughters or defrauded and paid to get their daughters into these elite institutions. In the case of... Colleges. Yeah, colleges, exactly.

In the case of Lizzie Huffman, she actually paid $15,000 for somebody who was monitoring the SAT test. And she got them to correct the answers that her daughter got wrong. For that, she ended up having to pay $30,000 in fines. She spent 11 days in jail. She was charged with fraud for this back in 2019. And she also had some community service that she had to serve. So she just gave this interview. That's why this is back in the news. She gave an interview with Good Morning America. And in it, she made some comments that are really, you know, getting people up in arms. I'm going to tell you what those comments are. But it's an interesting story for us, Sean, because we weren't outraged by what she told Good Morning America as her defense for, you know, cheating for her daughter and paying for her daughter to get into school. It's what the FBI did to her family that she kind of brushes over. So let's just start with

the comment. Okay. So when she was on Good Morning America, she talked about why she did it. And she said, well, it was sort of quote, this is a quote, it was sort of like my daughter's future, which meant I had to break the law. And that was what she said. Now, she also described driving her daughter to the SAT, having kind of second thoughts about it, but then brushing those second thoughts aside because darn it, she wanted her to get into a good school. And people are going back to kind of revisiting the elitism of this.

By the way, in that, we both agree that this is, the parents should teach their kids to work hard. They should teach their kids right from wrong. And to cheat on a test to get into school, that's not what parents actually should be teaching their kids. This is a new phenomenon, I think, in American culture, that we're going to lie, cheat, and steal. Whatever it takes. And so there's been a lot of commentary on that front. On parenting.

Yeah, yeah. But talk about what caught our eye of commentary on that front. On parenting. Yeah. Yeah. But talk about what caught our eye. Okay. So this is what caught my eye. So she says that. It was just kind of an offhanded comment. Yeah.

It was interesting. It was just, it was sort of like not, it was like it flew under the radar for the person who was interviewing. And it seemed not to even be a big deal or the biggest deal for her. And here's what scared us. So she said, they, meaning the FBI, they came into my home. They woke my daughters up at gunpoint. Again, nothing new to the black and brown community. That's her comment. Good graces comment. Yeah, she's trying to get in good graces with all her liberals and her listening.

Then they put my hands behind my back and they handcuffed me. I asked if I could get dressed. I thought it was a hoax. I literally turned to one of the FBI people in a flak jacket and a gun and I go, is this a joke? So that's what happened.

And Sean, what the hell is going on with the FBI? So I lost my mind on this. So I was a prosecutor and there's people who break the law and Felicity broke the law. And what you do is you review the evidence as a prosecutor and you will draft a criminal complaint with the charges that you're going to charge someone with, and then you will summons them. The court will summons them into court. They'll be served with the paperwork going, you've been charged with a crime. This is your court date, and you have to come in. I've seen that a thousand times on movies. I mean, that's what they do. They come to your door with the paper. Right. That's what happens for non-violent criminals now fbi going to someone's

doors gun guns drawn and breaking it that happens with like sexual predators drug dealers terrorists but this was never heard of that the fbi guns blazing busting down doors and going to get little girls they're teenage girls they're going after non-violent people so if Felicity was summoned into court she would show up and her daughter

I'm sorry these are teenage girls this is a Gestapo-esque activity that non-violent people for a fraud case that you'll break down their door and have your guns drawn and wake people up at gunpoint. This is unheard of. And I think what it what it shows us is, and if this is in 2019, this is under Trump's FBI, that the FBI has lost sight of what their actual job is. They're becoming the enforcers of a police state. And what they think is that why would we summon someone into court for a nonviolent crime? Someone who doesn't have guns at their house and probably they didn't have guns, they wouldn't use them. Why would we not summon them in and instead come in guns blazing, guns drawn,

and arrest them and handcuff them and drag them into the police station, they're doing it because they want to instill fear. They want to make sure that you understand, that these stories get out and you understand that if you violate the law, whether violent or nonviolent, they're going to come in and they're going to treat you like you're a hardened criminal. Now, what's frustrating is she says in this quote, this word that I know I don't dislike to be a black or brown person. If this is the way people were treated in New York City,

there'd be people black, white, brown, all colors that were FBI was coming in guns blazing. People were violent with guns and knives and stabbings and beating people up, actual violent people. And not only does the FBI or any law enforcement come in guns blazing, no one comes in at all. If they're arrested, they're arrested with kid gloves and then let out the same day. But it's the non-violent Americans who usually follow the law that this behavior is reserved for. Right. And this is an FBI that's out of control.

So we saw this. We started to see this with pro-lifers, right? That's right. It came to our attention through pro-lifers who were peacefully protesting. Mark Hoth. Mark Hoth was one of them. There are over a dozen others that we know of. And some of them, by the way, are facing some pretty steep sentences. The

ones who were in D.C. who got charged with the FACE Act for blocking the entrance to an abortion clinic, they're facing like 11 years in prison. But the FBI goes into the home of this. Mark Conk is a great example, you know, with guns busting down the doors at hours out of unheard of early morning hour early morning raids this also happened by the way with trump associates as well several rogers stone rogers stone cnn was there to record it for all of us to see right how they got tipped off yeah they got tipped off on that so the fbi has been doing this okay and so now we see it with this with this white collar crime. There's probably some people in the FBI,

yeah, let's get these rich people and scare the hell out of them for thinking they're better and they can cheat and they can pay their way into these elite institutions. But this is also, she says, now this is nothing new to the brown and black community. Well, guess what? It's not new to the Catholic community.

I think a lot of Catholics, especially those who are going to traditional Latin mass Catholic churches are worried and they should be. We just had another case, Sean, of a family who was- Well, it's a good moment because we saw that the FBI and the Virginia field office came out with a memo that says that traditional Catholics,

those that go to Latin mass, are potential domestic terrorists. They're radical extremists. They're white supremacists. There's a whole bunch of terms that we use for the traditional Catholic. For some reason, they're targeting traditional Catholics. And so when this memo was leaked out, the head of the FBI, Christopher Wray, was like, no, no, no, no, no. This was just one rogue field office. This is not what we're doing. And lo and behold, we find out that one of the field offices in California and one of the field offices, I believe, and it was Oregon or Washington, also came out with the same memo. And we learned, we did a podcast on this, actually, that it went through high level approvals at the FBI,

We did a podcast on this, actually, that it went through high-level approvals at the FBI, in essence, for the FBI to know that you should look to protect your country at traditional Catholics who go to Latin Mass. They were setting out plans, and we believe they followed through on, in some cases, in putting informants into these churches to find out what people are doing. But then Christopher Wray was like, no, no, no, we're not doing that. And so let's talk about, is Christopher Wray actually targeting traditional Catholics or not? We have a perfect case in point. Yeah. So thanks for that background. I think that's really helpful. Yeah. So another way that they're doing it is not just infiltrating the churches,

but going into chat rooms and onto social media platforms where traditional catholics are and it it's it's much the way the fbi as we know was involved in january 6th involved in the gretchen which whitmer kidnapping case where they wasn't close kidnapping kidnapping quote yeah um so a lot of times with the fbi and by the way they did this this to some Muslims in the post-911 era as well, where, you know, they're actually the ones instigating and creating these... It's entrapment. Yeah, they're entrapping people. They're honeypotting people in to do things that they would never do, but for the FBI's

involvement in trying to encourage them to do things that the FBI can then arrest and charge them for. So here's a perfect example. Here's a family, a Catholic family, traditional family, homeschool, lives on a homestead, you know, runs a farm. Uncle runs a butcher shop, you know, for, you know, the meat that's processed from the farm. And this particular family had a little side apartment for the grandmother who was very ill. family had a little side apartment for the grandmother who was very ill. And as the grandmother got more and more ill, she needed more supervision. So they got their teenage, older teenage son to be the one to kind of be all day with grandma until mom and dad are done with work on the farm and homeschooling and all the stuff that they do. And so this kid was doing,

this kid's an altar boy. This kid's a volunteer firefighter. This is a good 15 years old, only 15. Yeah. And, and by the way, because they're this traditional Catholic family, their, their kids don't have faults. But when this kid has to take care of grandma, they decide, well, you know what? He should have a phone because if something happens with grandma, we need that.

Yeah. Well, you have this kid who's never had a phone before. Suddenly he's interested in, you know, he's bored. He's sitting there watching grandma and he's starting to go on to he loves history. He's going into church history groups. Well, these are the kinds of church history websites and chat groups that the Catholic Church website that the FBI is now infiltrating. So to the side note, this is not a 15-year-old boy who's looking at porn. This is not a 15-year-old boy who's taking pictures of his body parts and sending them out online. He's going to Catholic history check rooms. This is the kind of boy that, you know, they probably raised him pretty well. And, you know, obviously phones can be dangerous and you can go into places that are inappropriate. But he's not in those spaces.

Right. But as he's in these spaces, he starts to make friends with people. In the chat group. In the chat group. FBI. Feds. Feds. Who basically tell, you know, they're encouraging him to look at this, look at that.

And then they ask him if he has a gun. Well, they tell him to go, hey, listen, do you have a ski mask? Put a ski mask on. And he does. And then they're like, you know, go drop some. Go to this park and drop some things off in a park. And then do you have pictures of guns? Yes. Take pictures of guns and post the guns online. Like they're encouraging him. And dropping them. And trapping him. Something this kid wouldn't normally never do, but they're having him do

certain things so they can build a case against him. And he has no idea that he's actually dealing with federal agents trying to entrap him to do things that were never his idea. And, of course, his family has no idea that any of this is happening. And then one day, the FBI comes again in the morning hours, guns, guns out, guns out, break, you know, breaks into the house, scares the you know what out of everybody.

case there's nothing there and but the family is not a rich family they've had to spend a lot of money legally to try and share their names um and and it's it's completely i mean you can imagine how traumatic this is so the case was ended up being reduced to a misdemeanor um the young boy plot out the parents good parents there and they said we're just part of her son that this is what he did but out of all the bad things that kids are doing, it's pretty minor. And to think that the FBI would be in check groups for Catholic kids, trying to entrap little Catholic kids when you have historic numbers of Chinese fighting-age males that are coming into the country. You have Hamas that's probably coming into the country.

You have some really dangerous people coming into America. Through an open border. Instead of using your resources to look at those people, you're looking at a little ultra boy Catholic kid and then trapping that little boy. And here's what frustrates me, Rachel, not just the gun placement for nonviolent people. It's like, oh, by the way, here's what triggered the fbi to come in he was on the chat groups and he's like this isn't good for me i'm gonna get off and he deleted himself out of the chat groups then the fbi was like he's part of a radical cell that's going to be mobilized now that's why he's off the chat group we need to go in guns blazing to stop this attack because we all he's going dark right catholics are attacking traditional

catholics are involved in terrorism and attacking americans i mean altar boards and volunteers stupid this stuff is here's what gets me rachel is the fact that the fbi is treating average americans whether it's felicity um who's no conservative at all or if it's roger stone or it's our mark hub the catholic who got a little bug tussle, little scrap with a pro-abortionist outside of an abortion clinic, again, guns blazing, coming into this family, guns blazing. We know what they're doing. And the fact that we have a Republican Congress that is about to fund a brand new headquarters for the FBI, that's going to give them the funding that they asked for at the FBI, or that's what it seems like they're going to do, they have way too much

money. If you have money to go after Catholic altar boys, you have way too much money because you need to go after the real terrorists. And we're going to give you only enough money to go after the real threats that face this country and not the good boys and girls, men and women who you may disagree with, who actually may break the law but are nonviolent, but you have the ability and the money to put task force together with armored vests and with guns blazing, you have way too much cash. And shameful on Republicans for fully funding the FBI when this is what they're doing. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more, Sean. And I am so concerned with everything that's going on in the country.

You know, terror threats are at the highest that we've ever seen. The number of known terrorists coming across the border that we caught. This isn't counting the gotaways of people trying not to get caught. Almost too many people we don't know. We have no idea. But we have now a record number that we have caught. Never seen these numbers before come into the country, known terrorists. This is what the FBI is waiting for your time. Again, 29,000, as you said, military age Chinese men. We have Chinese bio labs in America. We found secret Chinese police stations in New York City and a few other cities. So we've never been more

unsafe. And they're going after a teenage boy, altar boy, a volunteer firefighter taking care of his grandma and, you know, being naughty and getting on a Catholic chat room where, you know, supposedly now he's endangering the country. This is an FBI, Sean, that is out of control. They should be defunded. I know you think that we should just shave some money off of what they have. At this point, I have to tell you, I'm more afraid of our FBI, of our own government, than I am of anything else that's happening to us. There's nothing more threatening.

Yeah, sure. Let me quiet Skippy down here. And I told Rachel not to bring Skippy in the room. We have some people working on some plumbing in the house. And he's mad. Anyway, Skippy, no. That's going to do it. We have some people working on some plumbing in the house. And he's not happy. And he's mad. Anyway, Skippy, no.

That's going to do it. So, so, uh, Carly Schumkiss did an interview on Fox and Friends first. Oh, yeah. With air marshals. I think she was the head of the air marshals union. And it was shocking. What she said was, if you're on a plane.

The air marshal lady said this. Yep. You do not have air marshals that are protecting American flights. But there are air marshals on flights. And the only flights that air marshals are getting on are flights that someone who participated in January 6th are on. So, I mean, I know several of them, veterans, Purple Harbor, is it Purple Harbor recipients? It isn't. Just good people who are there.

You have air marshals tracking. He was in for 12 minutes just looking around the Capitol. Tracking January 6th, but again, not tracking any of the 10 million people that have come into this country illegally that have some radical ties. That's how off-base these people are. We'll have more of this conversation after this. BetMGM is an official sports betting partner of the National Hockey League and has your back all season long.

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I can't remember which one of the FBI whistleblowers it was, but he said that he was working on very important cases on sex trafficking because, as you know, with the open border down in Florida, sex trafficking of children is on the rise because we have 80,000 kids who have come across the border that we have no idea who they are. You know, Sean, I was thinking about the whistleblowers. We've had some of the FBI whistleblowers on the podcast. One of them was working in the Florida field office, and he was

working on some important cases on sex trafficking, child sex trafficking crimes. Because as you know, we have thousands and thousands of unaccounted children who have come unaccompanied over the border. And we've now had hearings where the government says, we have no idea who they are, where they are. They don't even keep track of them. So they come over the border and many of them end up in these sex trafficking rings.

So they were working on these kinds of cases. They were pulled off of these cases to go look into January 6th. These are the priorities of the FBI. Why we are funding this organization? Why Christopher Wray with Republicans? You know, even I have to say, I'm disappointed that Donald Trump should have kept him on. He should have been removed. He was clearly involved with all the Russia collusion hoax, knew what was going on. All of this stuff is just, it's so disconcerting. But what it tells me is that Trump, the Republicans, the Congress do not have the oversight and control that they are supposed to have in a system like ours over this department.

This department, in my opinion, is gone rogue. So I mentioned the problem with our Republican Congress. And I want to talk about that again. And again, most of these, a lot of these people, they're my friends on the Republican side, and a lot of the Democrats. And so it's a little bit painful for me to talk about them in such a hard way, but I'm going to. Are you talking about the George Santos situation? I'm talking about George Santos.. George Santos was just removed from... Can I just say something? This George Santos thing happened today. Sean was working out, heard the news

about the vote. I came down, and you just started cursing. You were so mad. I'm angry about it. Let's back up. You need three-quarters of the vote. No, I'm back up. You need three quarters of the vote.

No, you need two thirds of the vote. Two thirds of the vote to remove a member of Congress. And so Ford Santos is a problem. He's a liar. He sounds f***ed to me. He does sound f***ed. He sounds super fush. But I know people like that that deserve our bold-faced liars.

No compunction will just lie to your face. Well, Gavin did that last night. He did. But let's lay this out there. He's lied. And now he has charges. He's been indicted on federal charges for embezzlement and other things out of

his campaign. And it sounds like the charges are pretty strong, right? And here's the problem. What happens before you're in Congress, you can't use what happened before to remove someone once they're elected to Congress. So even though he lied to get into office, he will face borders two years later.

So you don't remove someone because they told mistruths during their campaign, first off. And when someone's indicted, they have the presumption of innocence. So he hasn't been convicted. He's only been indicted. Jason Chaffetz was on today and he made a great point. He's like, they want to remove him because he's been indicted. How about Senator Menendez from New Jersey, who they found gold bars in his home. They found cash in his home. No one's removing Bob Menendez from the Senate. And foreign government involved. Exactly. They're looking to remove George Santos from office. So here's what's supposed to happen. If you're indicted in the Congress for a crime that you

could get a sentence of over two years, you're removed from your committees. You're not removed from the House because there's a presumption of innocence. George Santos was removed from his committees. He never should have been removed from the House. And the politics of this is really important. So Republicans will now not have a 5C majority because, just to get into all that, there's a member from from Ohio, Bill Johnson. He is resigning from Congress. Some of the family is sick. So he's leaving.

And now you take out George Santos and what you have is a three seat majority in the House. They couldn't govern with five seats. George Santos voted for rules. He voted for all kinds of things that the team was voting for. They're not going to be able to get anything done. Usually that would make me so angry, Rachel. I thought we elected Republicans

to actually go after the communists. Go after Joe Biden. Go after Mayorkas. The liars that are actually impacting your life. The real liars and cheats. But instead, they're going after Kevin McCarthy, and now they're going after George Santos.

You're wasting your majority. You're wasting... By the way, they're not going after the FBI. I'm like, who are... They have lost all priorities. They have no understanding of the threats this country faces. They should be timing us in the Democratic Party. They have no understanding of the threats this country faces. Communists in the Democratic Party, they should be fighting them tooth and nail.

And instead, they're having an internal food fight as our country burns. The country's burning and they're talking about themselves. And Skippy is upset about that. And Skippy's upset because the plumbers are leaving. That's right. But I will tell you this, Sean. So, first of all, I just mentioned that my favorite headline on this came from Tristan Justice. He works for the Federalist. He's a staff writer for the Federalist.

And his headline is breaking Dems expel gay Brazilian drag queen because we know that he's, you know, Santos is dressed in drag before and and he's a Brazilian descent. He's married. We're not sure to who. There's like two different people. So we're not sure who he is. He's not sure which of the men he's of Brazilian descent. He's married. We're not sure to who. There's like two different people. So we're not sure who he is. He's not sure which of the men he's actually married to. There's something kind of fun about him. I'm actually going to miss him a little bit.

But I think the deeper question that I have, and I think you might be probably the best person to ask this to, is why are Republicans so, well, maybe this is the answer, so self-loathing. You look at the difference in the way Democrats, Democrats have their crazies, Republicans have their crazies. Democrats have people who have done bad things like Menendez. And there are others, even including Nancy Pelosi, you know, and her husband and the weird stuff that happened with that and the stock trades. And I mean, there's all kinds of stuff happening on the Democrat side. And then you have Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib. But also Ilhan Omar and AOC have had campaign finance scandals that have been brushed out of the rug. So it seems to me that Democrats say,

these are our guys. We're going to protect them. I'm not saying that's the right thing to do, but that is the way they play. And Republicans seem to shoot inside the tent. Why is that? Explain it to me from having been inside the tent yourself. Why they don't protect their own.

It's only because they see the other side is protecting theirs. So stop. We've complained a lot about the two tier justice system. Yes. We push back on a two tier justice system. And Republicans in the Congress today said we actually agree with a two tier justice system. We have one set of rules that we're going to apply to a Republican, George Santos. And we have a different set of rules that Democrats get to apply to their members. There's different rules in the House and the Senate. Bob Menendez is a senator.

The Democrats control the Senate. And Bob Menendez is still in office. Yeah, but you can find it. I mean, right now, it'll take me about a minute to think about it, but there are tons of cases of Democrats

who have done naughty things and they circle the wagons and protect their own biden hasn't been convicted of taking a bribe money from uh russians ukrainians the chinese through his son but there's allegations why hasn't he been impeached mayorkas comes to the house time and time again and lies about a border being secure and we're fighting and blah, blah. I mean, these guys are the real threats. And you haven't impeached Joe Biden yet. You weren't able to get the votes to actually impeach Mayorkas. Something's wrong with your ideology.

But there's another example, which is the way they treat their voters. wrong with your ideology. But there's another example, which is the way they treat their voters. Look at how the Democrats circled around the BLM Antifa people. They actually set up funds after to spring them out of jail.

And then with January 6th, those people are languishing in the gulags of Washington, D.C. prisons, and no one goes to see them. And the only people that have gone, frankly, to visit them, but they're also the, I think she's one of the toughest fighters out there, which is Marjorie Taylor

Greene. The rest of the Republicans treat her like she's a pariah. That's right. So let me tell you what the back, some of the backstory here. So George Santos is a member in a very competitive seat. There's going to be a special election to fill the seat. A Democrat will more than likely... What area is he from?

Is it Long... It's a greater New York City area. Okay. And in addition to George Santos being from New York, a lot of the New York members that are Republicans who come from their Joe Biden seats,

Lee Seldon helped push a lot of these candidates over the finish line to get elected. And a lot of these New York Republicans are the Republicans that made the majority. They won the top seats that gave Republicans

the majority in this Congress. And they have been the ones pushing to have George Santos removed from office. Why? Because they get a lot of questions. At town halls? They talk about it a lot.

And their constituents, their town halls, the local media, pressure them and push them on George Santos all the time. And I- What are you going to do about George Santos? What do you feel about this? He's lied. He should be gone from office. That's right.

They did just repetitive shrivels from the media on these members. And I get that kind of pressure because I was in a really tough seat, a Democrat-leaning seat where I first won Congress as well. And it's hard when you're in that cloud to stick your head up and go, when the next election comes, is anybody going to care about this issue? And I guarantee you, Rachel, the issue of George Santos or whatever issue they were coming out after me on George Santos, whether he was in Congress or removed today, that decision will not affect any single voter's opinion as to whether they vote for that Republican or vote against that Republican. It will only affect his own seat, right?

Only George Santos' seat. And you lost one extra reliable vote in the House, and it's going to make it that much more difficult for you to pass legislation. So you can go back home to your constituents and go, I got this done. I got that done. We fought back and pushed back on this and on that. They're going to look like they're inept. They're incompetent in Congress because nothing's getting done. All they're going to do is come home with the scalp of George Santos

because they haven't done shit on the border. George Santos wasn't running for re-election. So it was going to be a non-issue. If he was still in Congress, he'd be a non-issue in the next election. And again, no voter would vote on George Santos. They might vote on the economy, they might vote on crime, they might vote on immigration, all things that New York City is grappling with. But George Santos, they would not be voting on. And so I think of their their little chicken littles in New York. And I like a lot of them. I'm going to say I like a lot of the New York Republican members are good people.

But they let George Santos and the liberal media get to them to remove one of their members and make it that much harder for Republicans to be effective going after the communists and the Democrat Party. They look weak. They look weak. They've changed the subject for what needs to be talked about. They put the focus back on them in a negative way. It's not a positive. By the way, the story in the media that they're so worried about is not going to be these brave Republicans took out. They're such they're so notable. Oh, hell no. This is like, see how corrupt they all are. Look at their guy.

He's bad. Meanwhile, they have no problem bringing it on the left. They they they roll out the carpet for Mayorkas, for Joe Biden, for Hunter. I mean, these people have no shame. And they go after George Santos, George Santos, because who cares? They defend Hunter Biden. Yeah. The end of time. Yes. And our guys take out George Santos. I'm not I'm not I'm not defending Santos. I'm not. Again, I don't think he's a great guy. I think he's a liar. And the charges against him are real. He's convicted of those charges. That might be that, by the way, that all comes in February. That is that might be a time if convicted, he should probably be revoked. But why wouldn't you wait until you have a trial with a jury of your peers to make a decision on whether you're guilty or innocent? Wouldn't that be noble if Republicans have that philosophy?

that philosophy. So instead of, again, focusing on all the information that's coming out on Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and their scandals on inflation, on crime, on the border, on Joe Biden's failed policy that led you to war in Ukraine and now war in the Middle East, instead of focusing on those things, we spent a lot of time focused on Kevin McCarthy and their effort to remove and now tons of time on George Santos. You're making yourself the news story as opposed to the Democrats, Joe Biden, their failed policies should be the news story. 100% Sean, what does this tell you about Mike Johnson,

the new Speaker of the House who replaced Kevin McCarthy and his control over his house? I can't imagine he thinks this was a good, you know, next move for the new conference under his leadership. So Mike Johnson did not vote to remove Santos. I know, but he's the speaker. I know, yes. And here's what happened.

The Republican leadership didn't whip the vote, meaning they didn't go count votes and push their conference to vote to keep George Santos. They didn't do that. we all want to sit together. We want to keep George Santos in office. The New York Republicans, they can vote to remove him, but we're going to stick by this guy. If convicted, per the House rules, we'll remove him. But per the House rules, we're going to keep him right now. And we're going to play by the same set of rules that Democrats play with. But he didn't do that. So what does that tell you about him? Just be frank. I think this was a leadership failure by Johnson in this situation. He should have, and it's not easy for him.

He would take heat for it, but he should have stood up for Santos. Yes. Within the Republican conference. And he didn't. Now that doesn't, that's not an indictment on his whole speakership and he's going to be straight all the night.

But on this one, he did not meet the bar so yeah that's my take we'll have more of this conversation after this okay i want to talk to you about another topic here really quick um i'm justly removed from congress yeah well there's a lot of trump supporters who are unjustly being rejected by liberal women um so we've seen this on, basically on people, people will set up their profiles, that's the right word,

on their dating sites to say no to Trump supporters. They also, by the way, say, I only want someone over six feet tall and they eliminate, basically only 14% of American men are over six feet tall. So they're eliminating a lot of men. 85%, 86% of men get

nixed. Get nixed, that's right. So, you know, already these women aren't making really great choices. There's a lot of men out there buying lifts for their shoe to get to six feet. Ron DeSantis did. Apparently Marco Rubio got accused of the same thing in the last, in the 2016 primary

little Marco I like Marco Rubio I love Marco but yeah we're just talking about shoes here but anyway so they're putting in their profile that we don't want to any Trump supporters and it's actually showing that, and we've seen these stats as well. Young women are overwhelmingly liberal and men are not as liberal,

but they're more open to dating liberal women. I think men just like women in general. They'll take them in any way. But then the women are having really hard rules about Trump supporters. And so we had this discussion on, outnumbered yesterday. I was a guest on the show, on the panel. And I think that a lot of, first of all, I think it's true.

I think that's true. And there's a lot of men that will say that. I've spoken to men who are on dating apps and they say they will put down, you know, they won't put down that they're Trump supporters. They'll say that they're moderate or independent when they're actually Republican voters because they don't want women to swipe and reject them. What do you make of this, Sean? Because I think that these women are making a big mistake. Well, tell us more about your show on Outnumbered yesterday and how has the media responded

to your great commentary? Okay, let me tell you what I said on the show. So maybe that might... So as you look that up, let me just keep you on another point. Sure. Talk about liberal women. So one of my friends

was walking through one of the protests that is in support of hamas not in support of israel support of hamas and would you if you were to classify someone who's willing to go to the streets and support hamas are they conservative or liberal uh liberals of course of course do you know what they notice almost all of them were college-aged girls yeah the girls are out there like water yeah they've got they've gotten really radicalized so radicalized so much of the liberal you know ideology is very attractive to women who are single women who are insecure and you know grappling for something by the the way, you remove religion from the lives of young people and a lot of them become very susceptible and open in that

vacuum to these kinds of extreme ideologies, whether it's feminism or liberalism or Marxism, cultural Marxism, you name it, they're going in that direction. What ends up happening though, Sean, you know this, is that women get married and they have kids and they end up becoming a little more conservative with time. That just is natural. Some people say it's because the men in their life, the patriarchs in their life are convincing them. Otherwise, I don't think that's true. But here's what I said on Outnumbered. I said that I actually feel sorry for women who aren't interested in even considering dating supporters of Donald Trump. And I said, you know, I feel sorry for them

because they're going to date and maybe ultimately marry a bunch of beta guys. Guys who, you know, want to split the check, who won't open the door, who won't protect you. And I think you're turning away the possibility of dating, not just good men, but good men who are the kind of men who built this country, farmers, factory workers, people, you know, police officers, these are soldiers who are defending our country. Traditionally, a lot of people in those kinds of fields tend to be in the working class and in those circles tend to be Trump supporters.

And I think those are very noble men who build society. I would agree with that. And if you don't take one of those men, you're going to look for a beta male. A Timothee Chalamet type of guy. Right. It's like, it's pretty self-spoken. Maybe you do a little poetry.

You're really good at making lattes. And what happens is these men have, again, poetry and lattes, but when life gets tough, you know, and men and women have to be tough in those things that happen, these little beta males, they run for the hills. Real men stick around.

They know how to fight. They're willing to fight. They protect their wives and their children and they provide for them. And they want to make sure their home is stable. And again, you're right, protected and safe and secure. There's something internal for the good men who want to protect their family. They can call it the patriarchy or the patriarch, whatever these lips call it. But they're choosing men that in the long run will make them happy.

Well, and then you just look at the mental health rates that we're seeing. These women aren't happy. And that's not me being judgy. We're simply looking at the data, the rise in pharmaceuticals among single women, the rise in depression rates. The weird stuff we're seeing on TikTok by so many of them, that sort of cat lady lifestyle that they're leading um that's very lonely and depressive can i tell you what we did the podcast on the men that are like i'm not i'm not doing this anymore these women i can't find one i'm going overseas i'm gonna find a good woman what would they call they were called something bros passport passport bros

i didn't this is a trend if i didn't have. Can I just explain the trend for those who didn't hear that? The passport bros are guys, as you said, who are frustrated with American women, say they they're either their standards are too high or they're not interested in and getting married and having kids and sort of having that, you know, traditional family lifestyle. So they are going. Now, I said they should just look for Republican women, conservative women, because there are plenty of them here in the united states but these women are these men are getting frustrated they're going abroad and finding women in other countries who are still interested in sort of you know having a marriage really yes so this is by the way just to side note of this if you're a conservative woman it's like you're a woman in the Wild West and all these Western towns that you got a hundred men to one woman, you have your, you have your

pick of great men. It is, it is like, this is beautiful for conservative women who have so many more men to pick from that are also conservative. The match, the match for you is going to be that much better but if i was if i found myself single i i think i would be one of those passport points i might go i'm gonna find a good woman somewhere else i think i'm gonna find why to find someone here you find a good mexican-american woman from the southwest i might go to mexico i might go to columbia and find myself oh you know i was at columbia venezuela wherever all the miss universe is that okay so maybe okay so let me so so let me let me bring you back to

no no i love this i love it i listen i'm i'm obsessed with the with the with the beautiful women of latin america they're they are amazing and they do dominate at these beauty pageants no question about it um Let me ask you this, because this is what came up outnumbered. What I felt from the, like I said, listen, good. You know what? You should know people's politics before you date them. You should know people's, because politics reflects values.

The other people on the panel, I had Martha McCallum, I had Emily Campagno, I had Kayleigh McEnany. We had your former colleague, Democrat Patrick Luffy, former Democrat and Iraq vet. By the way, I excluded him from my beta male. I said, listen, I'm talking about beta males. Don't open the door. Don't pay the check. Don't protect you. But this guy's a combat vet and he's a pro-life Democrat. He's a really rare animal out there. So that was not, I excluded him from that. But all of them seem to lament a time when politics should not play into who you date. And remember when we had Arthur Brooks on and talked

about his whole book on happiness that he wrote with Oprah Winfrey. He also talked about that, you know, we should be able to judge our partners or whether somebody's going to be a good partner for us, not based on politics. There's so many other things out there, which is true. I mean, we love politics, Sean. But I mean, honestly, we talk probably 60% of our lives is about other things. There was a time when that actually worked. Right.

You had, you know, some were left of center, some were right of center, but there was not that much space between the left of center, some were right of center, but there was not that much space between the left of center and you've seen this this radical leftism injected into society through the education system, as I call them, commie camps that have brought liberals leftists so far over into the into the communist ranks that they can't come over and see the value of a right of center man. They want a left of center man. So that's what's that, that, and most of them are women. And that's, I think that's what's really- Yeah, I have a, I have a little bit, and we may come to the same conclusion, but I have a little bit- You can't gap that divide. You know, I think it's a fair point point i think that if i was a truly trans right i would say honey you're right you're so smart you're so smart i'm not going to say anything further but actually i think it goes deeper than that i think and this this was brought up in

another with different topic but another point in yesterday's um outnumbered episode, which is feminism. Feminism is at the root of so many things that have literally destroyed the relationship between men and women, between the sexist. So feminism is an offshoot of communism. Actually, if you go and look historically back at that, it is an offshoot of communism. Feminism is about wanting to erase the differences between men and women. And in doing that, they have convinced through indoctrination, through women's studies departments, but more importantly, through culture, convincing women that they don't need men. I mean, just look really simply, Miley Cyrus, her hit song from last year, I can buy myself flowers. I can hold my own hand. I can take myself out dancing. That is the message that young girls are getting. They don't need men.

Feminism has convinced women that they will be happy pursuing the girl boss route. They will be happy infertile. They will be happy without children. Abort your children. All of it is meant to make them believe they don't need a man. And in the end, we were created for each other, men and women. And I think that to be truly happy, most women, not all, but most women need a partnership, need marriage, need children. Need love.

Need love. Men need love too, though, honey. I agree. Totally. I don't disagree with that. Can I end on one really, can I end on one small note here? And it's a, but it's a very deep one. it's a very deep one if you think about going back to the garden adam and eve what after the the devil in the form of a snake tempted the woman to have the apple and then to um offer it to adam

and then you know everything basically sin came about as a result of that the other thing that happened is it caused division between adam and Eve. They started blaming each other for what happened. And I think anything that is about coming between the relationship between men and women, which they are supposed to be as one, that's how God created them. I mean, God created Eve out of the, you know, rib of Adam, right? So they're supposed to be together. They're supposed to be complementary. They're supposed to be partners.

And anything, and especially I think this very dangerous communist-based ideology, also based around abortion, which is an evil in and of itself, that's meant to separate men and women is not good for them, not good for society, and at its root is evil. So I would just say that, really, I don't just dispute that point. And everything that Democrats are doing, they're pushing into society, whether it's feminism, don't get married, don't have kids, abort your child. There are all things that will set that human being up not to be happy, not to be better off and safer and more self-reliant and more free. It's to set them up to go, you know what? If I do this, I'm going to have a really significant

relationship with the government. I'm going to buy into the communist ideology. I was just going to say, I thought you were going to say that everything they're doing isn't to make you happy, it's to make you an activist. Or a communist. For the government,

pro-government, pro-bureaucracy, the government is my baby daddy, not an actual human being who can love me and take care of me and protect me and caress me and all those things. Yeah, good luck having Joe Biden do that with you. Okay.

He actually does like to do that. Oh, gross. All right, well, let's end on that note. I'll go off with Joe. Smell your hair. Stroke your back. Yikes. Listen, just a couple takeaways.

Republicans need to fight. The FBI is out of control and women need to marry good men and men need to marry good. Great podcast. Great questions. I want to thank you all for joining us at the kitchen table. We appreciate you tuning in. We drop every Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Friday's always Q&A, so we appreciate you coming in

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