From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Q&A With The Duffys: What Does A Duffy Christmas Look Like?
Episode Date: December 23, 2023Sean and Rachel are joined by their daughter and writer at The Federalist, Evita Duffy-Alfonso as they answer questions on what the Duffy house looks like during Christmas.  Together they share th...eir favorite Christmas memories, talk about the weekend ahead as countless Duffy family members make their way to their home for the holiday, and discuss the importance of Christmas day to the Christian faith. Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating kitchen table i'm sean duffy along with my co-host for the
podcast my partner in life and my wife rachel campos duffy on this Christmas podcast week.
Yes.
We're just, we're so close to Christmas and you just feel it.
You know, everyone's home.
Everyone is home.
Our fridge is packed with food.
Everyone's home.
Our hustle and bustle is our daughter, Evita, who's with us today.
Welcome Evita.
Thanks for having me.
Of course.
She's here.
She brought her husband with her so we get evita and michael this christmas our son jack and his fiancee kaylin are home
and then our awesome little niece maddie is visiting and staying with us as well so
how many people we have now we have a full house i think we we have 13 people. And then on Christmas Day, your brother and his family and your sister and her family are going to come over.
So what is full now is going to get even more full on Christmas Day.
And I just think this really is a wonderful time of year.
And people are in good spirits and families are getting together.
And there's a celebration and again it's always important to remember the meaning of this season that it is
for the birth of christ a little baby that was born to not very wealthy parents yeah a little
stable in a manger um in the most humble way possible yeah Yeah, boy, is there a lesson in that? Yeah, there is.
The humility of...
So I was thinking about, like,
what are your favorite Christmas memories?
Sean?
My favorite Christmas memories?
You know, listen,
we've had conversations about this.
We've tried to take, you know,
some of the traditions that I love from my house
and the traditions that you love from your upbringing and meld them together with some new traditions for our own you know
growing budding family but you could go all the way back to your childhood i mean i mean listen
i just i remind christmas as i remember us getting a real christmas tree there was no such thing as
a fake christmas tree back in the day so we'd get a real Christmas tree and we would all decorate it. I loved, I loved making Christmas cookies with my mom and she was really
good. She'd make the dough and then she would roll it out and we would all press the, the,
the cutouts into the dough. And then we would go through a big frosting session with the cookies.
Then she would, she would do it early enough. so then she'd put them down in a freezer in our basement and i thought this was just so scandalous but my brother brian would go
steal cookies out of the freezer deep freezer right and then then the rest of us learned that
so we'd go steal cookies as well and by the time the christmas came my mother would be outraged
that almost all the cookies had been eaten and she thought she had all you know right she's pulling
out when the guests come over.
So there's that.
And we always made mincemeat,
which was an Irish,
a little more of an Irish tradition.
Make mincemeat was a meat and apples and spices.
And then we'd have mincemeat and mincemeat pie as well.
So those are the kind of things that I remember.
And, you know, here's the one thing
that maybe that I think of as a big family.
I was always so excited because I was
the 10th of 11 at Christmas, all my brothers and sisters would come home. And if they were with,
you know, they're married, their, their, their husbands or wives would come with them.
And I loved just everyone coming home and the chaos, the chaos and the conversations and the
fun. And, um, you know, just everyone was around during that during that time
and i just really special and i always once christmas was over and everyone started to leave
i'd always get depressed when they'd all yeah leave the house so that's that's what i remember
from christmas you get depressed putting away the ornaments and all the christmas decorations
it's so funny because we were talking about that on fox and friends and my two co-hosts
guys are like oh can't wait to when christmas is over i want to put that stuff away right away
i hate putting it away not because i hate putting it away because i'm sad about putting it away i
hate putting it away i know that part is not fun but but I just feel sad. It's like another year. It goes so fast.
So I feel sad.
And last year, I actually have a beautiful nativity scene that's quite kind of large.
It goes, you know, over the piano, takes up the whole pop of the piano.
And I just said, I'm not putting it away.
I want to feel Christmas for the rest of the year.
So I didn't have to take that one out this year because it was already out.
You know those people that leave their Christmas lights on all year?
It was a little bit like that.
I left it up all year.
But I love decorating.
I love the way the house looks and the lights and the feeling of it all.
When I grew up, my parents, my dad was in the military.
So we traveled from house to house so in our family
sean you and i carried on the duffy tradition we've never had a fake tree always had a real
tree usually we cut it down ourselves that's where we got new jersey yeah we this is the first time
we did in our lives in 24 years 25 years that we've not cut down our own Christmas tree. It's kind of depressing.
It was, it was a little weird, but in any case, I grew up with.
The place we went had just did one weekend of letting people cut Christmas
trees and they closed their, their shop.
And so we didn't have that option and we had to go to a,
to a neighboring place and grab a tree, which is beautiful, I think,
but we didn't get to cut it down.
Yeah. It's a beautiful tree and anyway so when i was growing up we always had fake trees and scandalous i know but you know
when you travel and you're in europe or you're in peru or you're in england or you wherever
you can't always access a real tree so um you know i just i think back on my mom having to put
all of this together.
You move every three years.
You move your whole family, your whole life.
And she always made our home so nice.
She always made sure that we were unpacked quickly and feeling like we were back in our own home, wherever we were in the world. And the other tradition we had growing up was we always invited an airman,
a soldier who didn't have a family with them, a young soldier.
So my dad would see one or two guys in the office that didn't have a family,
and he would always invite them over.
So we spent Christmas Eve eve dinner which is our big
dinner growing up um with a with a stranger which i thought was kind of fun we always kind of look
forward to who's who's dad bringing home from from the base of the base this year and so that was
kind of cool i think my favorite memory though is i, I don't know, maybe 10 or 11.
And I didn't write this on my Christmas list because I think I was trying to test whether Santa was real or not.
So I didn't put it on my Christmas list.
But I wanted, I only wanted Barbies.
I only wanted Barbies, but I didn't put it on the list.
And I was testing to see if it was real
and we went to Midnight Mass
and then when we came back from Midnight Mass
was when we would, Santa would
arrive. We got back from Mass
it was so exciting
and I had all Barbie
everything
so it was amazing
it re-sparked my belief
Yeah, so Evita, I want to come back to what we've done this year in the house, which I want to talk about a little bit because Rachel's changed it up.
But what are your favorite memories growing up in the Rachel and Sean Duffy household?
Well, I wanted to ask you a question first.
the chaos and people coming home on christmas and like how exciting that was for you as one of the youngest children of 11 was why you wanted to have a big family that's a great question and the answer
is i'd never want to have a big family that was not my plan i didn't go like you know what i want
to i had you know all these brothers and sisters i want to have this massive big family myself
i didn't have a plan in all honesty i didn't have a plan. In all honesty, I didn't have
a plan on when, when I was very Catholic, when I was going to have a, when we were going to have
one or two or four. And in all honesty, we just kept getting blessed with more kids. And I kept
rolling with God's punches of like, okay, we're going to have one more and off we go. So no,
that was, that that was that was not
even in the back of my mind like i was trying to recreate that but as i said home this christmas
there is a recreation i look at patrick our little patrick is seven and the excitement i think he has
is everyone's come home and he plays by himself but then he plays with kind of all these different
you know you know older, older siblings or,
or,
or boys that are in the house.
And I think he's having the time of his life,
by the way,
he wears his pajama bottoms and he's topless.
He looks like a little Mowgli running through the house.
And he's a little Tarzan,
but maybe some,
somewhere subconsciously in your deep,
deep subconscious shot.
You wanted a big family based on that.
That could be. I just I got to go to counseling to figure that out. I don't know that right now.
All right. Yeah. I just I'll say that that's also an observation that I've had this year is that I think it's so fun for all of them.
And I think it's also been interesting to watch even Valentina, who, you know, she's she's four.
it's also been interesting to watch even valentina who you know she's she's four she has down syndrome and you don't always know exactly what she's thinking or feeling because she she doesn't she
can't talk super well yet um but she's been super overstimulated i think because she's up really
late with everybody and i guess yesterday she slept almost until noon because crazy we're like
yeah she is she's overstimulated with all the people
in the house i think she's really happy um i think they all all little kids really happy so it makes
me think of of dab anyways um a tradition that i really liked growing up that we still have here
that can be a little distracting during the day if you're trying to write from home is is the music dad plays music constantly in all rooms
of the house at all times of the day and night during the christmas season which keeps it very
spirited and fun and like i said if you're working from home and trying to write it's a little hard
to have music in your ears space but it's still very it's still very fun and there was also lots
of dance parties then growing up and people just like not movies or but just like christmas music
and all the kids dancing around the christmas tree you probably have hours of video footage
of all of us little uh growing up dancing to christmas music i was a prolific videoer when
we were when when you guys
were all little i've kind of fallen off the video train he was an original vlogger i really was i
was really good at it now i would uh talk about what was happening and what was going on in in
the world at that time and what everyone was doing and what was big in our lives and because
what you don't realize is you forget those things and yeah i thought i did a pretty good job no it's fine so if we go back and watch and by the way
we're not doing this now and it's such a regret i think because you had the iphone because the
iphone's right before you had a video camera and you just kind of videotaped everything and so what
sean would do that i thought was so cheesy at the time and I think it's so great right now so if I
go back and watch a video from 2002 or three or four five six um whatever the video will start
off with Sean going all right it's Saturday you know September whatever in 2000 whatever um this just happened in the news you know uh you know
you'll get a spattering of the current event suddenly it sparks all these memories or and
then in addition i'll say you know last week rachel was doing this and this and then this
week i'm doing this and the kids just did this, and then we'll go in and you'll see the videotape.
So you actually get context of what's going on in the world at that time.
It's so awesome.
It's so great.
If all those young dads that are listening right now,
moms,
you know,
give some context to it because you'll forget.
I mean,
you will not believe how much you forget.
It's crazy, but I'd actually talk about gas prices prices like the gas prices have spiked to this much and now
i look back i'm like god that was cheap compared to what we pay right now but again it's a but it's
it is a good point to go you know talk about what's going on in the world and in your family
as you're doing the videos that you put together. Cause again, I've stopped doing them and I think the iPhone is the reason, but I,
I've, I've done legacy box.
And I've done three different sessions of legacy boxes.
And I've just looked at a lot of the old videos that are through there.
So that's, that, I think that's, I appreciate that. That's, that's,
I think that's important. I like the Christmas music is,
is a wonderful part of Christmas. It does keep you in the spirit.
Just a quick note.
Yesterday, I was in Fox News and had a meeting for The Bottom Line, which, by the way, is
on Fox Business from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. with Dagan and Duffy.
You're watching Brett Baer.
You're not watching The Bottom Line, so just switch the channel.
I'm a shameless plugger.
But so as we're doing the meeting.
If you're Brett Baer and you're listening uh sorry
she's my wife brad don't don't take offense um so i was we're doing our meeting for the show
and all of a sudden it's a glove all the glass windows in the meeting room and and and jimmy
phila walks by and i love jimmy jimmy's wonderful it's like it's this is beyond love with you and
jimmy like i thought i was the only one that noticed this bromance.
But literally, like somebody the other day, I was talking to somebody in the building and they were like, made some reference to like how you and Jimmy love each other.
Jimmy's fantastic.
They are like best buds.
But I love him more now because here's what happened.
He walked by and went into his office.
He strutted by i i actually i recreated the strut for rachel like who is this like jimmy struts so but then he walked by and his office was right by our meeting room and so
once we got done i was like i'm gonna go say hi to jimmy in his office and i walked in and the
lights are low and i walk in and i'm gonna say hi to jimmy and jimmy's
not there but jimmy's playing christmas music in his office he's got a little what are they
little sound bar whatever you guys call these things and he's playing christmas music and
the scene is like totally set for christmas i'm like, this is Jimmy's not here. I'm like, Jimmy is so awesome.
The vibe that's going on in his office.
You thought that Jimmy, if you wondered, could this just be an act?
Could somebody be this joyful and nice and awesome all the time?
The answer with Jimmy Fela is yes.
Yes.
He's that awesome all the time.
He's that positive. He's. Yes. He's that awesome all the time. He's that positive.
He's that funny.
He's that kind.
He's that supportive of everyone around him.
He feels like he won the lottery in life working at Fox and doing what he does.
And it doesn't surprise me that his office is cheerful.
He's kind of like, he's a little bit like Elf.
He's like a ray of sunshine he is but so
anyway that was the christmas music and anything else what else do you like because i want to come
back to what we've done this christmas in a second anything else that you think about from
from your childhood well i don't know um you know it just the kids have some traditions of everybody
sleeping in one room on Christmas Eve.
They make the Christmas fort the night before Santa arrives.
So they all are in the same room together.
And then they would sometimes bring in a laptop so that in the morning,
because they're not allowed to come downstairs until mom and dad have made coffee and are ready for them to come down.
So they might have to entertain, color, draw later on.
They had a laptop.
They could watch a Christmas movie if mom and dad weren't up.
But they are not allowed to go down.
And they actually keep their pretty good.
So this is a tradition we took from my house.
they're pretty good you know so this is a tradition we took from my house so um we would out never never could we go downstairs to the christmas tree on christmas morning until my
mom and dad woke up so we'd sit at the top of the stairs looking looking down it's a little split
level uh house to the christmas tree with the presents underneath it i mean and you're dying
with excitement right you're like this is amazing i can't believe i can't go and and and five minutes
feels like five hours on christmas morning but and then you know we when when my mom and dad
would wake up we'd all have to sit on the stairs and we'd have to horribly sing away in a manger
and so we've taken that tradition the kids can't go downstairs to the christmas tree and we sing a really rough rendition of a way in the manger which makes it
that much more beautiful because we're such bad singers we're not the von trops
and who decided to do away in the manger in your house who made that i think it was grandma carol
and then christmas morning we would always and it was always a big deal of because the baby g we
we have a little duffy family manger and every baby jesus would not be in the manger oh you guys do that until christmas
morning and then one of the little kids would have the honor of being able to put the baby jesus
in that honor a couple times um and i get annoyed when my little sister was able to do it but it's
always it was a great honor everyone wanted to do it and put the baby Jesus in the manger.
And we don't do that part, but we do sing and wait.
But here's what's happened over the course of our Christmases.
You know, you go to bed late as parents,
and then the kids wake up at some ungodly hour.
And oftentimes we were pretty good at getting up at it on godly hour and you know
doing our process getting coffee and then you know having our you know christmas morning kick off
but the older we've gotten i think the harder it is to to manage that and so now it's like i think
we we'll sleep till like seven o'clock now before we're like drug out of bed.
Kids get so mad.
So annoying.
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One thing that's been really awesome this Christmas for me.
So when you walk into our house, I have like this round table that's sort of in the entryway.
And I have this like very tall nativity scene that I've placed underneath that table.
So it's got the three wise men and Mary and Joseph, the baby Jesus.
And they're, they're kind of tall. I mean,
I would say they come from my feet to what, like, yeah, yeah.
To my thigh, middle of my thigh.
So Valentina is only, you know, three feet tall, maybe two feet tall.
I don't know how tall she is. Tiny.
And she's kind of not much bigger than these,
than the nativity scene.
And she has loved.
She will go and spend hours just sitting in front of this nativity scene.
And I have these on the family altar.
I have the gifts of the Magi.
I don't know how she's figured it out, On the family altar, I have the gifts of the Magi.
I don't know how she's figured it out, but she'll take them off the altar and bring them over to the manger, the little holy family scene that I have under that table.
Every time I come down, baby Jesus has been moved because she's playing with baby Jesus and trying to figure out what's going on in this really cool thing.
It's so cute how much time she spends with it.
And I just think, I don't know,
it's just been my favorite part this Christmas.
Yeah, and I miss some of that because I've been gone during the day.
But here's what I like what you've done
this Christmas season.
So we've gotten bows, real ones.
We have some fake bows that look real
that you would put up over a lot of our doors
inside the house.
We would do real ones outside the house,
but inside you do the fake ones.
This year, they're all real inside the house.
And you have little snowflakes that fall off of the green boughs that go over the doorways or archways in her house.
You actually on the stairs strung the boughs up and I need this out of the stairs.
And what's interesting is the live, the real ones look so much better than the fake ones, first off.
But the smell of boughs in your house is really cool.
And so I think our house looks better than it ever has because of the way you did it this year.
And by the way, it didn't take that much time.
It was not, it didn't, I think it would take forever to kind of do this setup.
And because I got, I pound nails and hang them.
It went pretty quick actually. And I, I'm not, I'm not disappointed.
It's a smell of pine. I love it. I love it. Yeah. I mean, it's been,
it's been a good Christmas and also, you know, last night, everyone,
Sean got back from his show. We were all sitting around,
we had made cookies and we were sitting around the table at the
end of after dinner and it was a huge i mean like i said it's like 12 of us 13 of us yeah
and sean came home and we kept talking it was just such a nice it was just awesome and i think
listen those are those are those are the moments those are those are the feelings that people have for Christmas.
And you may not remember the specific instance of sitting around that table, but you will associate Christmas with the feeling that you had of all of your siblings your siblings and your parents and everyone's sitting around having these
conversations.
And it's a,
it goes to the heart of why family is so important because it,
you know,
it's just,
it's such a great human engagement.
Can I say something that you did that?
I just,
I didn't even know you had done this,
but I thought it was so interesting.
This was not at Christmas,
but I was going through all the legacy box.
Like this is a legacy box ad.
It's not, but, but I was going through all the Legacy Box. This is a Legacy Box ad. It's not.
I should be getting something from Legacy Box for this.
They're great.
Explain what it is.
Some people don't know what you're talking about.
You can send in whatever tape you have because there's all these different versions of tapes that we've used over the course of the last 30 years.
Tiny ones, bigger ones.
They send you a box and you put your tapes in there and
and you send it to them and their little backlog so it took me a couple months but i got i i they
send all my tapes back to me and then i have two options i have a little a little usb drive
um and i also have a link where they keep them on the cloud if i want and so now i've they've
digitized all of these videos but I couldn't play anymore. I
didn't have a camera or an ability to play these old tapes. So I haven't seen them for years.
And now we've got them back and I'm like, we can totally watch them as a family.
Yeah. So I, so I love the old videos. Like I, if we're going to sit down and watch something,
I don't want to watch a movie. I'd like to watch the old videos like more than anybody else the family i think they're awesome and
something that i found that dad did that i didn't even know he had done was record conversations
and not like in a creepy way it was just like he'd have the phone set up like on the counter
or something it was actually a camera not the camera i meant the camera back then no phones
right it was a it was a camera and it would just be like an everyday conversation, like at the kitchen table.
And I just thought it was like, what was mom talking about in 2004?
And what was dad talking about?
And I'm four.
And so what was my conversation like?
What did I have to say coming home from school?
And then so we didn't get a dinner table conversation for Christmas, but dad did something very similar because the videos were so long that we have all of these just like making food and the conversations at the in the kitchen at Yaya's house growing up as my mom's mom.
And it just I don't know, just to listen to what people were talking about then.
And the conversations
were just super sweet and i wish i wish we would do that again like like what we did yesterday we
were just sitting around the table having that as a memory recorded as well would have been such a
fun conversation i did it's yeah i wonder why we don't do that so i think but i also thought
i was at least insightful i was insightful i was insightful enough to go, you know, I think times will change.
And our experiences are going to change.
And our house might change.
And what we're doing in our lives might change.
And I'll want to think back to go, what was it like when we had this moment?
And I want to record it.
And, you know, everyone looks a lot younger.
And, again, I think the conversations, you know, sometimes might be boring, but you pick these nuggets up of
what people think and, and, and why they think it and what's going on in our lives.
And again, I would, I would encourage people if you don't do it it's really fun.
And you, as Rachel said, you forget so much of even what it was like to have the little kids.
What's a morning like in a day in our life?
What's a dinner like for a day in our life?
What is Christmas like in our life?
And again, I think when you look out, even your kids, if you don't have yet,
when you look out, even your kids, if you tell that you don't have yet,
they might look back to go, wow, what was it like when my little,
when my mom, when my mom was a little girl,
the difference I think is that right now, I mean, people are definitely recording and making videos of their life,
but they're super curated and edited. Yes. Do you know what I'm saying?
For sure. Right. They're there. Yeah yeah they're meant for yeah exactly and i think this is so raw and there
there is something different about it and and there's something about and by the way now you're
seeing like a lot of these instagram star you know for example, moms and dads, some strange stuff is happening in the background where they're forcing their kids to do stuff and whatnot.
This is like just raw footage.
like being an Instagram influencer and trying to create something that you think or think people want versus what actually happened. I didn't want to do it, do it for likes, right? Cause
that wasn't an option for us then. It was for us. I did it for us. I did it for us to look back.
And frankly, um, I do think, uh, there's, there's probably an appetite for people to actually see
what people truly live like
that doesn't have filters and it's not
highly curated and it's fake
I mean a lot of people pretend to have a lot
of fun and do a lot of things
that aren't really fun but they're just it's for show
as opposed
to doing things that are a little more
real so anyway Alice and I
as we go through this Christmas season
this has been
wonderful um again having everyone home and as you go through your own lives those of you who
are listening and your own traditions um you know lean into them lean into the traditions
and record them document your kids will want to see them later and maybe in this really raw form
just to say something that's i i
had thought about i've been thinking about this for the last couple actually maybe maybe since i
left for college because you know you look back at the videos and you think like oh these are the
golden years right because you were little and you you know everything is much more magical right and
for me i just i and i'm an i can be nostalgic dad's
nostalgic mom's not quite as nostalgic as dad and i can be that's a military brat thing you just
gotta you gotta up and go just move on but but i but i i have a metal when you're moving
but i have actually noticed about myself that I'm not super sentimental about Christmas because about the old Christmas and the videos, because every time I come back, there's a new kid.
So it's like, what am I sentimental for the time where there wasn't Lucia or was sentimental for the time where there wasn't Valentina?
So it's like, you know, you're not really the golden years aren't over because there's so many little kids still here and it's continued 24 years later.
And there's just something that's really awesome about having a big family and being the oldest of a big family and never feeling sad about it because the magic is still here and alive.
And actually, what's going to end up happening is when there are no more little kids for my sibling side a lot of my myself my older siblings are going to start to have their
own kids and so it's never really going to be over or sad in a in like a depressing kind of way
that's just something i've noticed that's really awesome about being from a big family funny because
i i ran into will um after work okay he after work will came sorry he was coming out of
his office i was coming off we were talking about christmas stuff and pete joined and will was like
he just you know his kids are now teenagers and it's just different he's like i really miss
those times when they were younger you know and at and at Christmas time. And I was like, that's why I kept having,
it is fun having little kids around Christmas.
It is a lot of fun.
And I would say,
I don't have those videos that you have of your young Christmases and your
life when you're a little, my parents didn't do that.
And maybe that's what Patrick will say to me.
You did that for a V10 Jack and little Patrick doesn't have as many videos
and we should do maybe commit to doing that.
I think others should participate
as well and take some of the load
of taking videos of what's
going on. It shouldn't just be, you know, old
old white hair dad.
So listen,
I've actually got to go to work.
I got a couple shows to do today.
And so you guys, by
the way, you're doing a show tonight as well. So we're all going to go to this. Our life has changed. They're like, I again, couple of shows to do today. And so you guys, by the way, you're doing a show tonight as well.
So we're all going to go.
This is how our life has changed.
Like I, again, we're going to New York city today.
All the kids are coming in.
They're all going.
Well, cause Sean has to work.
I have to work.
I have to work.
So we're just going to all make a, it's New York city's fun.
And at Christmas time, it's way too packed.
Everyone's coming in, but they're all coming in.
And then we're going to come back and um lazy day tomorrow lazy day tomorrow we've tried to get most things set up where we got you know food
there's going to be a few things we got to take care of on saturday but for the most part we are
ready to go to dive into the celebration the meaning of the season um which is the birth of
christ and so uh with that i listen i want to wish you all a really wonderful and Merry Christmas.
Lean into the traditions, lean into your family, lean into the memories that you create that are
so special in all of our lives. That's what we're doing. And again, be blessed. And if you're
Catholic, you're going to go to church twice this weekend. You're going to go on twice on Sunday,
which is a lot of, I'm like, I'm glad you brought up church sean because a lot of people taking their little kids
to see santa claus um which is a wonderful thing but take them to go see jesus too go to mass go
to church go to your faith service um make sure you're doing that can i make one before we go
last night we had uh neil mcdonough on an actor
he always he always plays bad guys in these movies he's awesome he's on in yellowstone
he's in yellowstone he's he was in uh mall cop 2 um he is he plays a great bad character and he's
like a nice guy right he is the nicest guy you'll ever meet and he brought he said something
yesterday on the bottom line and he's just he's he's got five kids he's a devout catholic he won't do any scenes where he has to he will
he'll kiss another woman um so he has boundaries the bad guy never has to kiss women so he's he's
kind of gone into this bad guy mode but we were talking about some of the wins that catholics
and catholics the christians had had over the course of the last year in 2023. And the football coach, Kennedy, won $1.7 million when they said the school fired
him because he was praying on the field. And that was overturned. We had a website designer who
didn't want to do a gay or a trans website. They won that case. So there's a number of victories for religious
freedom and the first amendment over the course of 2023. And I asked, we were asking, um, Neil
about that. Um, and he was like, listen, I, my, my priest told me this. He's like, you know,
it's interesting how much energy we'll put into cheering on our sports teams.
One of our sports teams to win is like, you know what?
There should be a similar amount of energy on your religious team.
You know, those who are winning or those who are standing up and, you know, being bold
in, in really challenging circumstances to cheer them on, like you cheer on your sports
team in the culture.
And I'm like, that was a really great point that he made.
And I'm like, you're right.
We put a lot of time into things that don't mean shit.
I'm thinking that because you said, don't have him go see Santa.
Have him go see Jesus.
Have him see both.
Then go see both.
Right.
But also, it's like, cheer on your sports team, but also cheer on some of the cultural, you know, all-star players, you know, all-star quarterbacks
that are making great plays that are fighting out there.
I think that's, uh, that was the point that he was making and, and I, and I loved it.
And you made me think of that, as you said, Santa and Jesus.
And so sports and sports and culture.
Make sure you're, you're, it's not just about cookies and snow and reindeer.
It's about Jesus.
So make sure you, you take, take time to, by the way,
if you don't figure out what the church schedule is, if you haven't been there in a while,
go to the website, check out the church schedule. We're going to see you're off. Right. Go to,
go to, go to church and, um, and, and really delve into the meaning, show your kids with
the real meaning of the season. I love it. Listen, everyone, thanks for joining us at
the kitchen table. I again, want to wish everyone, thanks for joining us at the kitchen table.
Again, I want to wish you a Merry Christmas.
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