From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Q&A With the Duffys: Why Italian Locals Loved Sean & Rachel

Episode Date: May 4, 2024

Fresh off their trip from Italy, Sean and Rachel answer all your questions about how their trip went (and how the locals reacted to them having seven kids in tow!). They also discuss controversial claims that wanting to have multiple children is part of a bigger 'right-wing conspiracy,' the potential political impact campus protests could have, and why, in the words of Rachel, "America needs a rager right now!" to combat the sadness and anxiety overwhelming Americans.   Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Why have you said that so sternly? And my wife. That's right, we live in the patriarch here. And if you believe that, you don't watch our show. That's funny. Oh, good gravy. Well, we're back. We've been on a family vacation, which has been really nice. And we actually got some questions because I posted a couple pictures from the vacation,

kind of saying, hey, we left. We took our kids. We had like six of our kids with us. And then my nephew lives in Rome. Our daughter's studying in Rome. We wanted to go visit her. We haven't seen her in a long time. She had a couple of days off. And then we went to Rome with all the children. We kind of treated it like a vacation slash pilgrimage. We did a lot of Christian

history and spiritual things as well, which was really awesome. And my nephew goes to school there. So he was with them. So actually we had seven kids with us, which is still like a smaller group than usual. So we didn't take Valentina. That would have been a little harder. So Rachel's mom and dad took Valentina. Are you going to tell the big news about Valentina since she's been gone? We share all too many things in this podcast, yes. You might as well share the news.

Big, big news. My parents have potty trained Valentina. So this could be the first she's coming back to us i'm going after the show on sunday to pick her up i'm picking her up and she will have been potty trained you may think that's not a big story but on on the kitchen table it really is because we've been married for 25 years in virtually all of that 25 years we've been in diapers we've had kids in diapers the kids have been diapers. This could be the first point of our marriage where we don't have a child in diapers after 25 years. We deserve it.

Well, so a couple of things on that note, I hate to belabor the diaper thing, but it's a big deal for us. First of all, we still will have every life diapers on hand just in case, like at night. She's still wearing diapers at night in case. But my mom and dad have told me that in the days that we've been gone, she has not ever had an accident in her pants during the night. So that is a wonderful thing. And I'm going to take as a secret because a lot of people go, how do you do it with nine kids?

It's crazy. But I've also had a really great support system in my parents who, whenever we've gone on vacation and had a little tiny baby that we didn't want to take on vacation because it made it complicated, they've taken them over. We wanted to go by ourselves. My parents have come to our house to take care of our kids, or we've taken them over to their house. But the other thing my parents have done for us, which is amazing, But the other thing my parents have done for us, which is amazing, believe it or not, nine kids, I have never potty trained one of them. So my mom is so good at potty training that I thought, why don't I just give the kids to the master, right?

And so my mom, so whenever, with the other kids, they learned around two to three. Valentina is now pushing four to five, so she's a little bit delayed that's okay valentina but the others whenever they were like two or three years old we'd send them to arizona and they would come back potty trained and so delegation is a wonderful thing um our life is so chaotic sean you know that it's you have to be on it and you have to be like good at this and my mom should get a get a PhD in body training because she is amazing. Can I make another point with Every Life Diapers? So, again, you can have a baby and they do their business, but Valentina's four. These diapers are fantastic.

No accidents. They work like champs. Love them. And they're a pro-life diaper company. I love it. Not only that, they're not just pro-life diaper company i love it not only that they're not just pro-life they're pro babies which leads us actually sean to our next topic um when we were on vacation probably one of the most shocking things to me when we went um to italy and italy

is a beautiful place gorgeous gorgeous the catholic art the catholic architecture um the the the history um the the lives of the martyrs we went to the coliseum and just knowing that christian blood was spilled there and and just it was just an amazing experience but when you're walking around italy one of the most shocking things for us sean was that there weren't very many kids. It is a country with a collapsing birth rate. Virtually no one has kids. When you see them, it's very rare. Most of the kids we saw were tourist kids. That's right. But Italian kids, you didn't really see. If they have them, they have one. Right. But I did see a few class of kids walking through, and there are kids in the country, but they bought into this idea,

and maybe they're years ahead of the United States, the idea that families are difficult, kids are challenging. We don't have time or a structure to build a family and have kids. Maybe there's this liberal idea of global warming that's taken over Italy as well, and they want to help the environment by not having children. Whatever the reasons, they're not having kids. We asked several people, and the first thing they said was the same thing. We asked them, why aren't Italians having children? And they'll say, well, in America or in France, the government helps you more.

They had this mentality that you needed to have the government helping you more in order to have a kid. And I kept saying, well, what about the family? Because, you know, the Italians are known for being a very family-oriented culture. But they have bought into the idea that you need government. And that's the mind virus of the idea that you can't do these things. You have to have the government helping you with everything. It's sort of like that Life of Julia thing that the Democrats were trying to sell Americans.

And a lot of Americans were like, no, I can live my life without the nanny state. And it leads to the real problem that if a culture doesn't have kids, right, well, who perpetuates the culture? You don't have a next generation. And so what you do is you import people from somewhere else. And when you do that, they're not going to necessarily be Italian. They're

going to bring the values of their country, of their culture to your country. And if you go out a generation, your country is going to lose its culture. And it's going to then in the confines of that country, it's going to represent the culture of somewhere else and we brought that up to another person that we're talking to in italy and because that shocks us that concerns us right they didn't care they're like god no it's not a big deal well this is what we've had people come in and out of italy you know for you know uh hundreds of thousands of years. Which is true. There's been a lot of conquests and so forth.

And so we're finally losing our culture, making it something else. Which, I mean, what kind of mind warp has to happen to get your culture to not think it's worth preserving and protecting and that it can and should be something else? They've done a number on the people in that country. That's exactly right, Sean. This has been an organized plan for a while, the idea of globalization. So it first started with the EU, right, this idea that they're not, you know, you start to lose your idea of sovereignty and what makes you unique as a culture

and this idea of a one-world government. And I'm telling you, in Italy, it's there. Now, I am not saying that you're not going to go to Italy and see, you know, and have an amazing experience of what's Italian. They got gelato. They got pizza. But I'll tell you what they don't have. They don't have people in the churches. So you and I were able.

Yeah, the churches feel like museums. The only one that was attempting to keep it like a functioning church were the poor Franciscans in Assisi who were trying to shush the tourists up in the church, trying to get them to have a little more respect for, you know, their gorgeous, beautiful Basilica of St. Francis. But, you know, most of the churches feel like museums. We went to church multiple times throughout our eight days there, many times. And mostly tourists, virtually no one there. We were one of a very small group. We were a bit of a clown show with all these kids, by the way. Yeah. In Italy.

Well, speaking of that. Go ahead. I was going to say, you know, when you finish the church, I want to bring something else up. Well, I was going to say, listen, I so go ahead i was gonna say you know you finished the church point someone brings well i was just saying listen i think if you could get people you know what's most italian uh you know about the italians should be there this is the this is the cradle of the roman catholic um faith and so you see culturally you see the remnants of it you see the architecture you see the buildings with the beautiful, you know, pictures of Mary sort of built in and shrines built into the buildings. But the actual practicing of the faith is dying.

And I think that is why I think they've been sort of normalized to this idea that, you know, they just don't seem to care. idea that, you know, they just don't seem to care. And the people we talked to, we specifically asked Italians, you know, what they thought of the immigration coming in, because that is a big topic of debate there, what they thought about the fact that the birth rate was collapsing there. And for the most part, the people we talked to seemed very passive about it. So to the point on the birth rate and the culture. So, so as Rachel mentioned, we brought five kids over with us. One daughter was studying there. So we had six kids and plus our nephew. So when we were all together, we had seven plus Rachel and Sean. And I will say the people who did stop us or we spoke with, they were really supportive.

They were happy to see big families. They were excited to see big families. They didn't think we were eco-terrorists. They were actually pleased to see a big family. Oh, Sean, they were more than pleased. Can I tell the story about the restaurant? I was going to get to that. So the restaurant story is Monica Crowley from Fox gave us a recommendation of a restaurant to go to.

And so we had to work hard to get in. We got a reservation, and we had all seven of the kids and the two of us with this reservation. And it was pretty remarkable the response that we got. So we go, and I noticed when we sat down, a few people were like, you know, and we got used to the stairs, right? Like people, not disapproving, by the way, very approving, but like a little bit curious

and then at one point our waiter was like are these all yours and i go well they're all mine except this is my nephew and i said and then sean said but but we actually have more you know there's nine total there's six here but we actually have there's seven here one's not ours but we actually have, there's seven here, one's not ours, but we actually personally have nine children. The waiter looked like he was going to fall over and die. And then throughout the dinner, little by little, waiters kept coming over to kind of meet us and say, Hi, God bless you, you guys Catholic. We're like, yeah, can you tell? And then finally, after different waiters came to our table, finally the owner of the restaurant came to our table and presented Sean.

By the way, that was the interesting part about it, too. You'd think Sean birthed these children. Exactly. They presented Sean with three bottles of wine and said, congratulations, this is for you. So wonderful to see a big family. Just to be really clear, a lot of the congratulations were not going to Rachel. I got showered in love. It's like you are a man that you have these nine kids.

Yeah, the woman did a little bit of part of this, but good for you. But it went to the point that that was the experience that we had throughout Italy. There was like... We leave the restaurant and I was gathering the kids. So I went out first and Sean stayed behind to pay the bill. And then it was taking forever for him to come out. I was like, finally, he comes out after a long wait. And I'm like, what happened?

He's like, it was like a gauntlet. Like everyone was, you know, patting him on the back, congratulating him. And he said, this must be what it feels like to complete a marathon that's what you said you said i should get treated like this every day back in congress i was getting a little bit of love or shaking hands it was like you were a celebrity but it was but you know what it was really wonderful it was actually there were really good people um really great food but what i what i my takeaway from that experience, Sean, is that while some people are passive and have accepted it, there are other people that are pining for the days

when people have families. And I don't know what it takes to change that mindset. But we're starting to see here in the United States a decline in the birth rate. Economics has become an excuse, as you mentioned, climate change. But mostly it's just a cultural shift where people have moved away from having families and sort of prioritizing career, prioritizing, you know, having more of a disposable income and sort of delaying marriage and childbirth. and sort of delaying marriage and childbirth. And so a reaction to that has been, for example, Elon Musk, who has made many very public comments, including on Twitter, on X,

about the birth rate most recently. There was an article in Politico, Sean, about this pronatal conference that occurred recently and this was the first year of it and a lot of conservatives and people who are supportive of big families went to this conference. Political wrote a piece about the conference

which again is about changing the culture so it's more embracing and open towards families and children and Political wrote a piece basically making it sound like everybody there was a white supremacist. And so Elon Musk tweeted about it and it was like, oh, yeah, like trying to save the planet from human extinction is some sort of right wing conspiracy and white nationalism. And so that's another debate going on in our country. You know, we're years behind where the Europeans are, but we're moving in that direction.

But again, to have Politico attack a pro-natalist conference, which says, listen, families are beautiful. Kids are wonderful. It brings joy and happiness to your life. And maybe what do we do to promote family formation and the idea that kids are really wonderful? You know, minds coming together on how you address that problem. And to think the sickos at Politico could attack that or try to demonize it. What's wrong with a culture that feels completely supported and legitimate to attack just a really benign conference of, hey, let's have family formation. just a really benign conference of, hey, let's have family formation. Let's perpetuate cultures and societies by way of having families. It shows actually how far the country has fallen

that you can attack a pro-natalist conference like that. And by the way, good on people who are coming together to think through this. There's nothing political about it. Kids aren't political, but they want to make it political it's well but but there is some politics of it and and you know the the left will tell you that the biggest threat to humanity is climate change you listen to somebody like elon musk um smart guy i kind of smart right kind of um he says the biggest threat to humanity is is the birth rate collapsing i think in greece right now it is devastating um where it's gone so so anyway you know mother trista said the um she's

saying there's too many children is like saying there's too many flowers and i couldn't agree more i i don't understand that mindset but boy that the the empty churches and the lack of seeing young families and small children was a real shock and made me really sad about Italy. And I hope they can figure it out. I know Giorgio Maloney, their prime minister, is trying to change that mindset. But while we were there, Sean, back home, the Pope had an interview with Nora O'Donnell. And this is his first televised interview in America. So it was a big deal. Right.

And we've seen empty churches. We've seen less Catholics, active Catholics across the world, but especially in Europe. Church participation has plummeted as well. And in America. So obviously, the purview of the pope is the faith and so what did he talk about rachel he talked about climate change yeah and he basically said anybody who didn't believe the leftist um ideals on you know ideas and and theories on climate change um which they don't see as theories it's always a fact um are are foolish people i

mean he used this platform of speaking to the American people for the first time on television, mostly to talk about climate change, never talked about the things that I was seeing that were happening in his city. Um, you know, he's in the Vatican right there in Rome and, you know, he never talked about that stuff. And I, so I tweeted out while we were in Italy, um, you know, Hey Pope, um, how about talking about the collapsing birth rate? Seems like, you know, and the fact that people aren't going to church. And that went a little bit viral when I wrote that. And actually, I think Newsweek tried to get a comment on my comment from the Vatican. And no surprise, no comment. But you know what's interesting is the left has loved Pope Francis, right?

He's been more in line with their ideology and their philosophy. Because he's a socialist. And so because they love him and he's very popular, because of that you would think, obviously more people are going to go to church, right? No, the exact opposite has happened. Less people have gone to church. When you have a pope that will

defend and perpetuate the faith, actually people are inspired by that, and you get more people, you know, in the pews in churches. But when you have a liberal like St. Francis who cares more about climate change than the faith, people leave in droves, and churches are empty. So you don't build a faith by guys like Pope Francis. You actually destroy it. But it's interesting, Rachel, when we talk about Catholicism, the most prominent Catholic in America is one Joe Biden, right? He has his rosary beads and talks about being Catholic all the time, right? Well, some new polling just came out.

It's interesting. So this poll finds that 55% of American Catholics actually support Donald Trump. Only 43% support Joe Biden. That's a huge shift from the last election. That's a 12-point margin. Right. So in the last election, it was, let me see here in the polling. It's a huge shift.

Yeah, it was. It was right here. I'm sorry. I think I took a picture of it. Hold on just one second, people. We're going to get so it was 40. It was 50 to 49. So it was Joe Biden won with 50% of the vote. Donald Trump got 49. So Joe Biden won by one point in the polling today. Donald Trump is leading Catholics by 12 percentage points. Now, if you go down a little deeper in the polling,

look at Hispanics. Joe Biden was winning Hispanics 49% to Donald Trump's 47%. So Catholic Hispanics are still voting by a slim majority for Joe Biden. But that's where the biggest drop has been, Sean. However, in the last election with Hispanic Catholics, Joe Biden got 67% of their vote and Donald Trump only 12%. So this is massive shifts in the Catholic vote because though Joe Biden might say he's Catholic, though he might, you know, promote his rosary. He had it in the campaign commercial, Sean. He talks about it all the time. And the Washington Post writes glowing articles about what a great Catholic he is.

But people see otherwise. But the consequence is when you don't live your faith, true Catholics see that and they leave you in droves, which is what's happening to Joe Biden. He could dupe the American people in the first election that he was a Catholic. Now they've seen his presidency for three and a half years. Now they've seen his presidency for three and a half years, and they're raising their eyebrows. They're squinting their foreheads to go, what he's doing doesn't match anything that my faith teaches. And so they've left him. Let's look at those numbers again.

I want to just, because it's so stark, Sean. So in the last election, he got 67% of the vote. Trump got 26. Right now. That's of Hispanics. Of Hispanic Catholics. 49 to 47 47 so they're almost tied now that is a massive shift now there's some overlap here hispanics are the working class and so obviously there's a lot of things playing into it the number one issue with americans right now is inflation and if you are poor, or if you're on a fixed income, inflation is a big, big deal.

If you are the working class, that's a big deal. So that's playing into it. But let's be clear, on the Catholic front, the most radical pro-abortion agenda of any president in american history i mean he is more as a catholic self-proclaimed catholic joe biden is more radically pro-abortion than barack obama that is shocking of course he's and and so so you have that then you had joe biden um using the fbi and the DOJ to go after Catholics. To infiltrate Catholic churches. Infiltrating Catholic churches. Then going after pro-life, pro-lifers, which Hispanics are enormously pro-life. And Catholics, church-going Catholics are pro-life as well. So attacking or investigating and prosecuting pro-lifers is also an attack on the Catholic faith. All of these.

And then you go to the gender ideology and you just go across the board. It should be of no surprise that he is losing Catholics and especially Hispanic Catholics. You have to wonder, Sean, if they're paying attention. I mean, if you're the Democrat Party right now, what do you do with these numbers? I mean, you've got a guy you've got Joe Biden, the Catholic, you know, losing support to Donald Trump, who's right now on trial for, you know, Stormy Daniels. And Catholics trust Donald Trump more to protect the religious liberty than joe biden we'll be right back with much more after this fox news radio on demand on the fox news app download the app and just click listen when you swipe left you can listen to your favorite

fox news talk shows live swipe right for the latest fox news radio newscasts on demand. Fox News Radio and the Fox News app. Download it today. It truly speaks volumes about how that's really how bad Joe Biden is. Just one other point. And I don't have a good answer for what I'm going to lay out for you. If you look at the number one issue for Americans voting is the issue of inflation. And the problem is not just how it affects your pocketbook, but it's destabilizing, right? You can't plan for the future because you don't know how much prices are going to go up. What am I going to pay for rent in three months from now? And what am I paying for gas and food? When you can't plan, it makes people stressed out. So it's not just the cost, but it's the stress of how things are changing. There's no stability, which is the

unsettling nature of inflation is what's causing this to be a big issue for the American people, on top of what it does for their pocketbooks. Do I buy my washing machine that's about to go out? Do I buy it now? Because the price might go up more in six months, but I don't really have the money right now. I'd like to wait and save. But if I do that, washing machine might cost me more later. These are the kinds of things that families have to think about. Donald Trump is winning by big margins on the issue with the economy, with inflation. You even look at the clown show of Joe Biden's administration, looking at what's happening overseas, looking at the protests on college campuses, the open borders. They promised us that if they won, the Biden administration, we're going to put the adults back in their room.

And the exact opposite has happened. So when you look at polling, Donald Trump is crushing Joe Biden on the issues that people care about in this election. However, Wisconsin, election however um wisconsin michigan and pennsylvania uh donald trump has to win one of those three states to win the election on top of winning nevada arizona uh and georgia right so he has to win one of those and it's neck and neck rachel i would think that in the polling it would show that donald trump is up by 10 points so So what's your theory? He should be up by 10 points, but it's tied. And the issues that people care about in those three states, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, is the economy, is inflation, is opportunity, is the border, is foreign policy, is the protests on college campuses. And these two guys are tied. And so it brings me to my theory, which is all of the work that the Democrat prosecutors with the DOJ and the state prosecutors in New York and in Georgia is doing a number on Donald Trump.

Right. This this is a layered issue that people are considering when they're thinking about who they want to vote for, which means though Donald Trump is still winning in many of the polls, he's not winning by more because they're effective in what they've done to Donald Trump in the minds of the American people. Well, he's tied down, Sean. I mean, you know what it's like to run a congressional campaign. I mean, we hardly saw it. You had to go everywhere. He's stuck in the courtroom. I mean, we hardly saw it. You had to go everywhere. He's stuck in a courtroom. Now, is he making the most of the time that he has? Yes. I think yesterday he brought pizzas to a fire, a firehouse and met with the fire fighters there and they loved them and they they love them but it it's psychological for some people you know who are who are swing voters to see the candidate in a courtroom and facing these kinds of even though these charges are ridiculous it it does it does affect people um you got to give donald trump credit for trying to make the most of it he He's doing rallies late at night after these court gates, and he's trying his best to do, and of course, they're trying to stop him, right? They're trying to put gag orders on him so he doesn't have a chance to speak or defend himself. But, you know, that's such a good point, because I've been looking at it in the opposite way, where I'm like, these jerks, they're tying him up in court. And, you know,

Donald Trump's still winning. But your point is actually a great point. Donald Trump should be winning by more. And that's why Donald Trump is saying this is election interference. It is. And just when I ran for Congress, I was the district attorney of Ashland County. And at one point, you remember this? I had to make a decision. Do I run for Congress or am I a DA? Because it's really hard to do both because there's not enough time in the day. And so I made the decision that I would resign from my elected DA position and I would run full-time for Congress. It was a big decision because Rachel didn't work. I wasn't at home at the time. I was the only income of our family. It was a big decision because Rachel didn't work. I wasn't at home. I was the only income of our family. And it was scary. We were going to go bankrupt if you lost.

We were. I mean, it was a really challenging time. It was a really big decision. It was a big risk. Yeah. And I had to borrow money from my father to pay my bills during the time in which I ran. And in the end, it paid off. But I wanted the time to campaign. And I was running for Congress. I wasn't running for president. Running for president, you want to be on the campaign trail. You want to be in Michigan, you know, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada. And you want to be in those places, but you can't because they're locking you up. And again, it is election interference. One of the quick points that I mentioned, maybe I mentioned it with you yesterday, which is the media has a narrative on Donald Trump.

And by the way, just polling has recently come out that shows if you listen to ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, you read the major newspapers in America, if you pull those people, they favor Joe Biden. If you get your news online, if you're looking at social media, if you're looking at news feeds, you're on Twitter, those groups of people, they support Donald Trump. Which is why they had to try and shut down, they had to take over Twitter, and why they lost their minds when Elon Musk took over Twitter. And if you don't really follow any of this politics in the main news sources or online, you even by a bigger number support Donald Trump.

Wow, that's interesting. But this breaks the narrative. The left is trying to drive this idea that Donald Trump is crazy. Everybody hates him. He's a pariah because we're prosecuting him. And he goes into the belly of the beast in New York City and is shown great love in a place where people are supposed to hate him. That is just destroying the narrative of the left-wing media on who Donald Trump is, because people are seeing this.

And by the way, they're also covering Donald Trump. They're covering him in the court. They're trying to ice him out of coverage. But your point was fair. This is not the way Donald Trump would prefer to be covered. No, of course not. So you mentioned Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Those are the three states. That's the blue wall. Donald Trump has to win one of them, one of them, which may explain why Joe Biden is not going hard on law and order when it comes to the protests, because Michigan is important to him. And Michigan, as so many of you know, has a very huge Muslim population in Dearborn, Michigan and throughout the state. And they are very much on the side of the Palestinians in this conflict. And the politics of the Gaza-Israeli war playing out on college campuses.

And these are college campuses, as you all know, that have been infiltrated for decades by the left. And there is a really odd, but now we can see very visible alliance between Muslim Americans and the radical Marxist left. And they have aligned and they found this alliance. And when this war broke out, you saw these protests erupt. There are now encampments. encampments. And Joe Scarborough was on his show over the last week kind of saying, hey, these riots are getting out of control. I came from a Democrat family that became a Republican family after the student riots in the late 60s around the Vietnam War. Most normal Americans don't like to see this kind of unrest, and they will vote for whoever is

going to squelch this unrest. And so he'd been prodding, and by the way, if you don't know Morning Joe, where Joe Scarborough is, is apparently Joe Biden's favorite show. And so he's been watching Joe Scarborough, and he finally came out with, I think, again, another milquetoast sort of comments on the protest saying, yeah, you know, law and order and blah, blah, blah. But no real bite to it. He didn't really, he hasn't really done anything. And part of the reason is because I think he's thinking about Michigan. But Sean, the question is, is he not doing anything in order to appease Michigan, but then he's going to lose the normal independent voter, the swing voters in these swing states? So, first off, anyone who doesn't live under Iraq and has watched the protests, you know that the protests are pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian people, right?

pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian people, right? They're not protests against Muslims. They're protests against Israel. But in Joe Biden's statement, he came out and was saying, we won't tolerate anti-Semitism or anti-Islamophobia. Well, there's no anti, there's no Islamophobia taking place right now in the country. All right. But Joe Biden, to your point, is trying to placate this very large voting base that he has in Michigan. And so he wants to throw them both in where only one is true.

The protests are anti-Israel and anti-Semitic. I will quote with you. I think the protests are at its heart are anti-American. I agree. That's really what it is i mean all this stuff is just but the cover but they'll take whatever they'll take green energy they'll take you know climate change whatever it is on his face on his face it's anti-semitic and it's pro-hommas and so the joe biden has to come out and try to equate the two with these protests

is outrageous um and by the way, is Donald Trump concerned about these kids protesting on college campuses because he's concerned about a voting block for his constituency? Not at all. These people are never going to vote for Donald Trump. So if you're pro Hamas, if you're anti-Israel, if you're anti-American, if you're pro-Marxist, you're pro-socialist, anti-American, if you're pro-Marxist, you're pro-socialist, these are the people that are the heart of the Democrat voter base. That should say something to you about where these two parties are at. If you're an old school Democrat, someone who thought Bill Clinton was great in the policies of Bill Clinton, the era of big government is over, Bill Clinton, rare safe, illegal abortion guy, Bill Clinton, and you're a Democrat from that era, this party has left you. There is no home for you in this current Democrat party

that has become so radicalized that it's unrecognizable, I think, in American politics today. We haven't seen anything like this before, which is why people are leaving the party in droves. We talk about Hispanics. Even the youth are leaving because of economic issues, because these ideas that Joe Biden is fomenting, they've never worked. Whatever tried, they never bring more prosperity. They never bring more economic growth. They never bring more wealth. They never lift people from the bottom up in the middle out or whatever Joe Biden says. It never works for people. The results we see today with inflation in this horrible economy are always the results that you get from these crappy policies. History will tell you that. Joe Biden and his economists, they understand this,

but they do it anyway because it goes to what we talk about in this podcast. They're trying to change the fabric and foundation of this country. And to do that, you have to destroy it. Well, that's exactly right. And that brings us to the next phase of this discussion on the campuses, which is, I think, the real question. Frankly, I don't actually want them to end the protest, per se. I mean, if these Democrats want to advertise who they are in such a public way, go for it. Because every one of those kids in those encampments, they're all

Democrats. And so I'm, you know what, fine. And by the way, the left is eating itself. These kids are mad at Joe Biden, as mad as conservatives are at Joe Biden. So the whole thing is a little bit, you know, it's very complicated. By the way, you have the great tape of the pro-American kids chanting, you know, blank Joe Biden, F Joe Biden. And then the pro-Hamas protesters on the other side of the street, all of a sudden started joining the chant. Did that happen? Yes, F Joe Biden. So Joe Biden unifying both the right and the left, chanting F Joe Biden. It was hilarious. That's amazing.

Well, that's not exactly what the Democrats had in mind, because as you know, Sean, these protests are funded. And the real question is who is funding it? We do know that it's George Soros. funding it. We do know that it's George Soros. We are now learning that there are foreign governments, Middle Eastern governments that are also funneling funds here. You have to wonder, Sean, we found out not long ago that the Chinese were funding many of the green environmentalist groups, which of course, if you're Chinese, that's super smart, right? Get the Americans to stop producing their own energy that's great for the chinese so you have to wonder if the chinese are also funding these um these protesters because

all this is doing is fraying the fabric of america george soros is the greatest force for evil in this country um and one of the things that's been really interesting is at the University of Chicago, many people, do you remember Bill Ayers, Sean? Do you remember Bill Ayers? Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground Domestic Terrorist Group from the 60s. So we first heard about him when God blessed Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity, back in 2009 and 2010, when Barack Obama was riding high, poor Sean Hannity was out there saying, hey, anybody paying attention to, you know, where Barack Obama started his campaign? It was in the home of Bill Ayers, a Marxist, socialist, anarchist, domestic terrorist.

And the media, who was in love with Barack Obama, didn't want to pay attention to the story. And frankly, I think even normal, well-intentioned Americans couldn't believe that this nice guy, Barack Obama, was somehow associated with this domestic terrorist. Well, back then, Bill Ayers was trying to cover up who he was now move forward um 14 years here we are bill ayers isn't trying to hide anything he is out and proud he is a professor at the university chicago who had absolutely zero problem going over to the encampments of these pro-palestinian protesters to give them advice to give them aid and support he went to talk to them um he doesn't care he knows that the boomer leftist commies that he grew up with they're now in power at the fbi they're now you know running the show um from behind the curtain um they're the they're the the FBI. They're now, you know, running the show from behind the curtain.

They're the puppeteers of the Biden puppet administration. So he is not afraid at all. And I just find this to be absolutely amazing that it's not being talked about enough. Bill Ayers, the domestic terrorist, giving aid and comfort to the new domestic terrorist. I'm smiling at you right now because of not being, this is a serious story, but it makes me think of another funny story that was told to us. So Bill Ayers, again, he and the Weather Underground, they conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings in their opposition to the Vietnam War. So truly domestic terrorists, right? So setting bombs. And so the late Andrew Breitbart, who went to a fundraiser, and in the fundraiser, he

could buy a dinner with Bill Ayers. And so Andrew Breitbart, conservative, wonderful guy. Sorry, Breitbart News Started Breitbart News. Breitbart News. He actually bought the dinner. The ticket? The ticket to go to dinner, to have Bill Ayers cook dinner for him at Bill Ayers' home. You see these things happen quite a bit.

And while he was at the dinner, I forget what he was being conservative of, spaghetti or something. But Andrew Breitbart kept saying, oh, Bill, this food is the bomb. Oh, your spaghetti is the bomb, Bill. Oh, your nachos are the bomb. I miss Andrew Breitbart. I got to meet him a couple times. And when we met him, he told us

his story, and we were on the floor laughing. He was fearless. And he was a cultural animal. And he knew who these Marxists were. And he was unafraid and he was a cultural animal and he knew um who these marxists were and he was unafraid to talk about it and but the regular the normal american people even back in 2010 just were not you know they weren't awake to it they weren't awake to it but they are now but the interesting thing is as the fruits of this Marxist, you know, experiment on our universities has, as you know, this is the fruits of it. You know it just seems like Bill Ayers is just unafraid.

I mean, you would think if you went to jail for being a domestic terrorist and you're now a professorship, the last thing you want to do is go hang out with the radicals. He does not care. He knows the system has his back because the system is now Marxist. Well, you'd think that the FBI would be like, hey, we're going to keep an eye on a domestic terrorist

from the 1960s and 70s. His name is Bill Ayers. We're going to watch what he does. And maybe the people that he is going to lend aid and support to, maybe we should look at them as well. Because these are radical Americans who don't believe, they want to tear the country down. But instead, the FBI is like, no, if you're

a Donald Trump supporter, we have to look at you. If you're Catholic, we have to investigate you and infiltrate your churches. All the while this crap is happening. Yeah. If you're a parent at a school board meeting, the DOJ and the FBI. If you love your country, you're a threat to America. If you hate this country, well, that's just status quo for Joe Biden's DOJ and FBI. It's so interesting because at George Washington University, they have a beautiful statue of George Washington. And these damn protesters dressed the statue up like, you know, with like George Washington looks like a terrorist at this point. They wrapped him up in one of their hijab, head scarves and the whole thing and draped a Palestinian flag around him. It was absolutely unbelievable. But again, the FBI is supposed,

and the DOJ, they're all supposed to be keeping us safe. These are groups that are seditious. They're trying to destroy America. And yet the FBI is uninterested in these. They're only interested in protesters who carry American flags, not those who carry around Palestinian flags. It's a very dangerous time, which is why this next election is so important, around Palestinian flags. It's a very dangerous time, which is why this next election is so important, that the next president can actually root out the rot of the FBI and the DOJ.

I don't want a Republican FBI or DOJ or a conservative or a liberal. I want people to keep this country safe, to your point, Rachel, and honestly implement the laws of this country, defend the laws of this country, defend the laws of this country, not the politics of one side against the other side, which is happening right now. And hopefully Donald Trump, if elected, he'll put someone in, in these two places.

That's job one, to fix them. I really hope that the American people are watching these campuses. I know, you know, our friend Pete Hegseth has done so much. He's got a series called Poison Ivy about just how completely gone these universities are. I really hope that people are paying attention, that they understand that the enemy is within. The enemy is inside of the walls of the castle. And ground of this marxist experiment to you know tear this country apart to fundamentally transform it has always been the universities and this is what's flourishing but at the same time that this is happening our border is open sean we have record

number of terrorists and they are now forming cells the iranian government right now um is offering scholarships to come to their universities for any radical protesters who are kicked out of the school. At the same time, the schools, they're handing lists of demands over to the university presidents. These university presidents are completely appeasing them. And one of the demands is you have to give scholarships and admission to Palestinians to come over here. I mean, the whole thing is just so insane. We are now in like clown world officially. We'll have more of this conversation after this. This is the complete and total clown car making of America.

Just, you know, I would agree. But as we talked about what's happening on college campuses, you did a story today. Many of us have seen the story of these young boys on college campuses. Filling in on Fox and Friends this morning. Yeah, so they've come out and they've uh they were rescuing this is that un chap un uh no no north carolina and and uh the the hamas flag was raised it was taken down and and these uh frat boys you know stood up and defended old glory for an hour as they had rocks and bottles thrown at them profanities thrown at them uh they put a GoFundMe page up. They've raised over $300,000.

John Rich has come out and said he was going to do a concert for them. Glenn Greenwood. Lee Greenwood. Lee Greenwood, yes, not Glenn. Lee wants to join the concert as well. And again, we talked about this, but i do think it does give you some faith that you know you have kids willing to stand up for the flag for their country and push back against these radicals um and i'm not sure how the interview went you've got a different idea or

different flavor from them this morning well i will say i i do agree with sort of like the sentiment that you know three hundred know, they raised 300. Well, they didn't. They wanted to make sure the guys that I interviewed wanted everyone to know they did not set the GoFundMe. Somebody else set the GoFundMe up for them. And and yes, they were defending the American flag. They were also these guys were Jewish guys and they were also defending the Jewish flag or the Israeli flag, I should say. And so there's a lot going on there.

But I do think that a lot of Americans saw these frat boys defending the flag, pushing back on some of this craziness, and felt like, okay, there's still a heartbeat in America. You know, it's not all is lost. And then when they heard about this rager, they were like, great. Like, this is awesome. Like, you know, who knew? I think it was Jack Posobiec who said that introducing the frat boys back into the college system was like, you know, reintroducing wolves back into Yellowstone, that it was going to restore the natural order, restore the natural order of the ecosystem.

You know, I think a lot of people, I hope you read that to me last night. I was like, oh, that is so funny. So awesome. Jack has some of the best tweets. He's a great person to follow. But but I would say this. I think we're overstating that. And that's because I was left a little cold after my interview with the Frat Boys this morning. And that's because they came on, you know, they seem like they were very nervous about their futures, right? Like they wanted to tell their story, but it's like they were so cautious. And I think the word I would use is neutered. As they told their story, I was like, so tell me about the rager.

And they were like, well, actually, we didn't start the GoFundMe. And we're not having a rager. We're now getting together and trying to figure out who we're going to donate the money for a good cause. And I'm like, really? So a fraternity can't throw a good party at the door of America? Exactly. I looked at him and I said, I think America needs a rager right now. Like, we're all so depressed. Like, let us live vicariously through fear of, you know, being different.

Yeah, they did that with the flag. But at the same time, I sensed that they were self-censoring themselves and seemed so nervous on air. And it wasn't like, I've interviewed thousands of people. This isn't, it wasn't like I'm on TV for the first time nerves. It was, I don't want to say the wrong thing and get canceled or, you know, I don't know if their fraternity, if their fraternities had them, you know, in a litigious mindset or the school did, I don't know what their fraternities had them in a litigious mindset or the school did. I don't know what's going on there. I'm just going to say I was left a little cold by it.

I felt like they were super cautious and it kind of ruined everything. Here's what I think happens. The environment in which these wolves are living is the college campus. Right? And the college campus has a lot of pressure a lot of traps right for the wolves and they think that america is like the college campus yes and so they don't they're not sure they want to say they're going to have a rager they're not they want to make sure you know they didn't start the GoFundMe page. They want to make sure that they're tamping down

their standing for the American flag. What they don't realize is America is not the college campus. There are people across this country. There are CEOs. There are HR departments that look at young men like this who have a backbone that stood up for the American flag against this crazy and go, I want guys like that working at my company. They totally missed the boat on this. They should have leaned into it, been proud of it, celebrated themselves and their bravery for standing up for the American flag. By the way, they weren't asked to give their lives. They weren't asked to go, you you know fight a war on foreign lands and risk getting shot they protected the flag be proud of it but they couldn't because they swim in a different in a different ocean their yellow stone is a you know a bunch of woke little mobsters and there's traps everywhere and i do think some of the impression

i got of course this is just my impression of having interviewed the guys was there. Either there was a legal thing they were trying to sidestep and somebody scared them before they came on, or they are worried that they might not get that job, that internship, that whatever. And so anyway, it left me cold. That said, I'm still proud of them. They all acted nobly at let's, and let's be clear, you know, some of those guys were, were, were, were there because they have a passion for Israel. Others were there because they have a passion for our flag. Others, um, I think we're just like, we're sick of these woke a-holes that are running our school and not letting me get to class and canceling graduations. And they're just sick of this stuff. And it was a moment where they

could kind of stand up for themselves and good on them. And I'm proud of you guys. And just as my advice to you, if you're listening here, if somebody plays it for you, lean in america need you this is not a time um to to feel muzzled in any way we need everybody um speaking out because everything's on the line right now sean john rich is calling this concert series he's offered to do for these kids not woodstock but flagstock um which is actually a really funny name and you know what uh john rich what a patriot he saw what these boys did and he's like you know what we're gonna help you a patriot. He saw what these boys did. And he's like, you know what? We're going to help you throw that party. We're going to come down and play for you.

And I bet you're going to have more artists go, you know what? I don't mind joining in. I'm going to come to this. It's not just the frat boy rager. It's not just a Chapel Hill rager. It's going to be an American rager. And that's what I said. That's what I want.

They were talking about charities. I'm like, it's fine if you want to give somebody the charity, but please do throw a party. We all want to live vicariously through that party. One last point on the topics that we've covered here. Again, you have, we talked about the Natalist Conference. We talked about what was happening

in Italy. The leftists, the Marxists, the environmentalists, they're not having children, right? So, in theory, their ideas could and should die out. These toxic, anti-human ideas should die. But they're not because we are having kids. And what do we do? We send our kids into their hands to perpetuate their ideas, not our ideas. And it comes back to the theme.

They're poaching our kids, Sean. And this is the theme that we brought up so many times. If you love your kids, if you love your country, don't let them poach your child. Don't give them your child to warp, right? If you protect your family, your kids, do what you can to get them into a good school, whether it's K through 12 in a classical school or making sure you live in a place that you can get them to a school that's going to work for them, minimize the wokeness, send them to a university where they'll proudly defend the American flag. They don't have to actually walk it back and be shy about what they did.

Protect your kids, raise them well. And in the end, our ideas, because we have kids, will win the day. And their crazy-ass ideas will die. But if they continue to poach our kids like they have freely, we lose, they win. That can't be our future. No, you're absolutely right. And there are options out there. We've talked about on our show, you can go through our library. By the way, we have an episode just last week with Dean Sanford from the University of Dallas, a classical university that is turning out amazing students and putting forth the kind of education American university kids got back in the 20s, you know, where they were steeped in the classics and patriotism and had to read the Federalist Papers and the Constitution and understand how our government works. These are the kinds of universities, and they exist.

Sean and I will continue to talk about these schools. I'm going to do a series with Fox in June highlighting some of these schools because we talk too much about the schools that are woke and crazy like Columbia. We don't talk enough about the alternatives and what they are. That's right. And at the University of Dallas, the percentage of kids that get accepted into medical school

from Dallas versus other schools, they're like in the top 2%. Their kids get accepted to medical school because UDallas is so great. our philosophy is always our kids can go anywhere to college,

but if they want us to participate in the paying of it, we're going to have a say. We can do the research as parents or grandparents and say, you know what these are the best schools for you and i'll help and you can pick from these you know six schools will help but you want to go over here to these whoa crazy ass schools where i'm going to lose

my child sorry i'm not going to participate and most kids by the way they can't make it on their own they need your help so you know i think the silver lining of these crazy ass protests might be that people are finally, I hope you're right, are finally going to say the Ivy League cost and the outcome and the product of what they're delivering is just not worth it. And I hope it's not just parents, Sean. I hope that there are a lot of employers looking at what these schools are turning out and saying, you know, this is poison ivy. I don't want it in my corporation. I don't want it in my law firm. I don't want it in my small business. I hope that's happening.

But it really does start with the parents and the students making better, more educated choices about where to send their education dollars. And by the way, you may say, my kid is strong. My kid, I raised my kid perfect. And you might be right. Your kid, just like our daughter, Evita, survived University of Chicago. I still regret sending her there. And the reason is that my tuition dollars that I sent to University of Chicago was used to indoctrinate other kids. And I have a lot of regrets about that. And I put an end to that. And I won't ever give those woke institutions, those Marxist institutions that all they do is turn.

They think their job is not to educate. They think their job is to turn out activists. And they're doing a very good job doing it. That I will not send my money to them anymore no more no more done no more everybody done no more of this podcast either we're done we're done listen thank you for joining us at the kitchen table we really ranted today we did we got it all out of our system i wore a sweater today uh it's a cold day out and it's hot in here i'm starting to sweat. I'm not.

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