From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene On Speaker McCarthy, GOP Agenda & January 6th

Episode Date: January 12, 2023

On this episode, Sean and Rachel are joined by Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) to discuss the historic election of Representative Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) to Speaker of the House, and the agenda that the House Republicans will put forward now they have the majority. Later, they discuss the future of investigations into the January 6th Capitol riots, the oversight that will be done by House Republicans on Hunter Biden's business dealings, as well as the President's handling of the crisis at the Southern border.  Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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wife, Rachel Campos. Duffy, you're both. That's right. It's so good to be here. And I'm so excited because we have a guest that I've wanted for a long time. We finally have her. And we have her just after some really huge news happened in your own stomping grounds. In the hills.

So, you know, let's bring in Marjorie Taylor Greene. Marjorie, thank you for joining us, first off. By the way, we think you have done some really wonderful work. But can you take us through what happened on the House floor? You had 19 members of Congress who didn't want to vote for McCarthy. Then it went to 20. You were an early supporter of McCarthy. And just maybe before you answer that, it's a body that kind of moves as a blob, right?

Sometimes you have groupthink, you have coalitions. In a speaker's race, it's as close you have concessions that have to be made. Kind of take us behind the scenes of what happened as you guys were going through the process of selecting a speaker, trying to get everyone on board. Again, this is the first time in over 100 years we had gone over 15 votes to get a speaker. Yeah, absolutely. So I just finished my first term in Congress, and I never served in government before coming here. So this was still new for me.

So for the American people at home, this whole thing, it doesn't operate like you think it should. And of course, that's what's wrong with the government, right? So voting for the Speaker of the House is a vote that happens within the majority conference, in our Republican conference. And it doesn't work like a popular vote, because if it was a popular vote, we would probably have quite a different look for how a speaker would be chosen. But inside our conference, our conference had to come to 218 to elect the speaker. And the votes just weren't there in spite of all the negotiations and conversations that took place leading up to the first day that we were voting for Speaker of the House on January 3rd.

And that was, to me, really unfortunate. And here's why. I'm a member of the Freedom Caucus. I'm a conservative. I have a 100 from Liberty Score from Conservative Review. I have an A from Club for Growth. I'm very conservative. I have a 100 from Liberty Score from Conservative Review. I have an A from Club for Growth. I'm very conservative. And I was so excited going into January 3rd for our Republican majority and for us to hold the gavel. And the reason why I was able to support Kevin McCarthy going into January 3rd is because I knew the agenda. I had studied it well. I had

spent time going and meeting with Kevin McCarthy, meeting with many Republicans, and understanding our conference. And our conference has changed a lot. I know that most people don't know that, but we've been through so much under Nancy Pelosi. And here's something pretty interesting. through so much under Nancy Pelosi. And here's something pretty interesting. After January 6, all the Republicans that objected to Joe Biden's electoral college votes got treated a lot different by K Street, the lobbyists and big corporations with woke CEOs. All of a sudden, donations stopped coming into those Republicans. Well, guess what? A lot of those Republicans were also moderates. And being treated so differently here in Washington, D.C. than they had in the past, it really changed the mindset here. And here's something else people don't know. The Chamber

of Commerce wasn't so nice to Republicans over the past two years. And Kevin McCarthy has been refusing to speak to them. There's our buzzer. We got a little more time. And he's even been saying that he won't talk to them until they fire their president. We have a great agenda laid out. One thing that already happened, firing the 87,000 IRS agent army that Joe Biden put in place. We already did that, defunded them completely. So for me, I was so excited after not having committees for two years, suffering under Nancy Pelosi. I was ready for us to have the gavel, ready for investigations to hold the government accountable, you know, investigate the Biden administration, Secretary Mayorkas for the failures at the border,

and so much more, especially our kids' education system that has gone woke and is sexualizing kids. So it was easy for me going in, but we spent a week fighting, and that was unfortunate. Here's the one thing that changed from the rules package before January 3rd to the final day after 15 ballots when we finally elected Kevin McCarthy.

The only thing that changed was motion to vacate went from five members down to any member, Democrat or Republican. Republican. That changed. I didn't agree with that one completely because the 20, it went from 19 to 20, the 20 that were opposing Kevin McCarthy proved that five was plenty because they were basically preemptively vacating the chair before we even got it. So that was the one change. There was a lot of tensions throughout the week and, we got it done early. Marjorie, I think it's interesting. One point is, you know, Kevin McCarthy, some are like, he's not conservative enough. But you look at the agenda, to your point, this is the agenda that American conservatives want, number one. But number two, and we have our dog scape between us for the podcast. The UPS guy came. He's not happy with it.

But the second point is, when I first came, Kevin McCarthy for the podcast. The UPS guy came. He's not happy with it. But the second point is when I first came, Kevin McCarthy was the whip. Kevin knows how to count votes. He knows how to manage and navigate a conference. And when you're that tight, you all have to work together. You have to get the moderates in those moderate districts. You have to get them as far right as possible. And they need the right to see that and go, okay, we can't get anymore. Let's cut this deal inside the Republican members of Congress. And I think Kevin understands that. And if you guys are going to be successful, you need someone who gets that and can navigate that.

Yes, absolutely. And I just want our conference to be successful because if we can be successful with our agenda, it's not about a personality. It's not about who you like. It's not about who you don't like. We should stop being the party of never. But if we can be successful with this agenda that is a true America first conservative agenda, I mean, it's really amazing. It's the best thing I've seen. I think any of us will have seen in decades. If we can come together and produce this agenda for our country, oh my gosh, we will all win. And it'll make our party so much stronger, especially going into 2024. So I do want to talk about things moving forward because I'm really excited about what can happen. And I want to get to January 6th because that's very important to me. And you're somebody who's

really championed those political prisoners. And I want to talk about that. But before we move on from what happened last week, I know that you and Lauren Bobart, it's no secret, had a very sort of public dispute argument. It was very public. And the thing that I look at, and this is what I wanted to ask you is, I like you both. I think you guys are better off working together, liking each other, realizing it. So are you, have you guys repaired that whatever happened there? Have you has, have you had a conversation about it since that happened? Well, unfortunately we haven't really had a conversation and you know, uh, to your point, Lauren and I have actually the same voting record. Yeah.

This is pretty much the only time. Well, she introduced a bill for over, I think it was several billion dollars funding for Ukraine. We're a little different on that issue. And then this past week on the speaker's race, that's kind of our only differences. But it is something that we need to work out. It's just that she attacked me personally in a Democrat leftist political attack. That's what she used against me. I don't appreciate that.

So, you know, it is something we need to work out because, again, I'll double down on this. For me, this job, I was elected to serve my district. I want to fight for our country. It's not about personalities, who we like, who we don't like. It's about getting the job done because that's what people deserve. The American people deserve that, not drama. They get enough drama from up here. We have a job to do.

So, yeah. I really hope that you guys work it out because I think you're stronger getting along than not. Let me just quick move to one thing. You're one of the few people who has gone in to visit those who were, many of them, wrongly arrested, definitely detained in unconstitutional ways. I consider them political prisoners the same way I see political prisoners in Cuba and it's hard to believe that that's happening here in America I want to know two things from you one what what have you seen from going to visit them that the American people should know about and, in your support for Kevin McCarthy, is doing something about what's

happening to them part of your agenda that you got or your concessions that you made with him or the talks that you had in order to give your support for him? Well, the good news, I didn't have to get a concession because he supports investigating that jail. You know, here in Washington, D.C., Congress has the power over the District of Columbia. They do have home rule here, which means they have a mayor, Muriel Bowser, which does a horrible job here in the city. And she does oversee that jail. But the things that people need to understand, and listen, Rachel, I appreciate you. You do talk about this, and I'm so glad you do. It's horrible what's happening to these people. We don't agree with what they did on January 6th. That's not what we're talking about.

But it's the two-tier justice system and how they're treated versus Antifa, BLM. In the jail, what I saw is, I'll never forget it in my entire life, it was most heartbreaking situation. These are men that are, they're broken. You can see their spirits are broken. They feel like they have been left for dead. They have lost all hope. When I saw them, it was at the height of COVID. If they weren't vaccinated, they weren't allowed to shave. They weren't allowed to get haircuts. They weren't allowed to cut their toenails or fingernails. Most of them did not bathe because they were being held in solitary confinement anywhere from 19 to 22 hours a day. When they're out of their jail cells, they're given the choice between you can go outside for an hour or you can call your family or you can call your attorney. And I can't

even comprehend those even being three separate choices. They haven't seen their spouses or girlfriends or any of their family children, mothers and fathers, anyone in their family since they have been incarcerated. And these are, they're pre-trial. I think that's something people need to understand. They haven't even been to court yet. They're not convicted. They're denied communion. They're denied religious services. They have been beaten, some of them very badly, by the guards in the jail under Kathleen Landerkin remember that name she is the deputy warden there

in the DC jail she has a history on her twitter account she hates men she's a white woman she hates white men she hates President Trump she hates anybody that supports President Trump and it's all she had all that posted on her twitter account and um so there's there's some very serious investigations

that i am ready to hold uh and we're going to be able to start doing that once we get our committees formed and and we can start moving in that direction and um these people are these people are it's truly it's what you said. It's like Cuba or any other foreign country where political prisoners. Shameful. It is a shameful. And I know you have to go in a second because votes were called. I don't know how we're going to pop up in a second. But are we going to continue to look at January 6th? You know, you have the Democrat only J6 set of hearings.

It was it was completely orchestrated. It was a show. Is the Republican Congress going to dive in and go, let's get to the truth? Who did the pipe bomb? Who is Ray Epps? Where's the footage? Because again, I want to see it all. I want to actually know what happened. And yeah, who are the organizers? Who pushed people into the capitol um but who was all involved are we going to look at that um or are we kind of done with january 6th yeah who is scaffold commander who is ray ebbs who are these what happened we need to know yeah the country deserves to know and those people need to be held accountable um yes we are going to we are going to lead a deep

investigation into that. And Kevin McCarthy has agreed to release all the information from the January 6th committee and all those files. You're right. It's unbelievable that Democrats are not demanding he be locked up. Scaffold Commander, just like you said, where is that man? And why haven't we talked to him? The pipe bomber, that whole thing is so, so unreal that there has been no information whatsoever come out. It's like they dropped it and they don't even care altogether. But think about all the people that got hauled in in front of that committee, had to pay these massive attorney fees, have to go through this embarrassment in their personal life and public life. The Trump family,

the people that worked in the administration, supporters, I mean, they should be held accountable. The members of Congress that did that to them should be held accountable. And they abused their power. They abused the power of Congress in doing so. If these investigations happen, Congresswoman, and if it shows that there was Fed involvement, if it shows that Nancy Pelosi knew something and therefore did not ask for the appropriate security, knowing what she knew in terms of intelligence and what was being planned, whether it was by the feds or by, you know, bad actors, you know, who were there at the rally supporting President Trump. If she knew something and didn't call for extra security, all that, I believe if this

is unravels, the story that was told by the Democrats, the story that continues to be told by the media and what came out of January 6th, I think a lot of things unravel for the Democrats. And I can't think of anything more important, despite all the things that are going on in our country, from Ukraine, money that we don't know about, the economy, everything else. I do think that January 6th, there is something there that happened. And if I'm right about that, if you're right about that, a lot of things, a lot of eyes will be open. I think it's really important. Oh, I totally agree. Well, you know, we did to your point and you're absolutely right in everything you said. We already know that Nancy Pelosi had the intel information. She was briefed on all of the dangerous intelligence that they knew about

January 6th back in late December. And Nancy Pelosi is the only one that could have made that call as Speaker of the House to have the National Guard there on January 6th, and she did not do it. And then Muriel Bowser, she tweeted that she would not do it. So we know that that happened, and you're right. This is definitely something that needs to be exposed, and we need to hold Nancy Pelosi accountable. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Oh, interrupting their playlist to talk about defying gravity, are we? That's right, Newton. With a Bronco and Bronco Sport, gravity has met its match. Huh, maybe that apple hit me

a little harder than I thought. Yeah, you should get that checked out. With standard 4x4 capability, Broncos keep going up and up. Now get up to $6,000 in rebates on eligible 2024 Bronco family models. Visit your Toronto area Ford store or Ford.ca. Oh, we had a little technical glitch there. We have Marjorie back and she came back to do that. We were, we were talking, we ended talking about January 6th, and you said that you feel very confident that Kevin McCarthy and the Republican conference is interested in getting to the bottom of what happened that day in releasing footage that wasn't released and figuring out what happened to things like the pipe bombs and, you know, all the weird people that somehow were directing people into the Capitol, but

were never interviewed by the January 6th committee and aren't being prosecuted. So you want to wrap that up for us? Yes. And I'm so thankful that you both have asked about this because it's such an important issue. It's a two-tier justice system. And the way pretrial January 6th defendants are treated, being held as political prisoners in jails, not only here in Washington, D.C., but all over the

country. And the Antifa BLM rioters, who over 95 percent of them have had their charges dropped, even though they were burning cities all over America and practically burned down Washington, D.C. Yes, this is something that our conference wants to investigate and we will be investigating. We want to ask the questions that all of us have been asking. I've seen you ask them. Both of you asked them many times on television. And we've been asking the same questions and Americans everywhere are asking is, like you just said, Rachel, who is Ray Epps?

Who is the scaffold commander? What happened to the January 5th pipe bomber? And why is that not an important issue? You know, people like Cassidy Hutchinson, why is she allowed to lie and get away with this, but yet they don't bring in other people and ask them questions? Why are there only several police officers they bring before the committee to talk to? Why don't we talk to more Capitol Police and so forth? This is definitely something that the entire country deserves to know about, and it's an issue that we will be investigating. So glad. So glad. You can go ahead.

One last thing. I'm going to let Rachel go off on January 6th. I'm. You can go ahead. One last thing. I'm going to let Rachel go off on January 6th. I'm done with January 6th. Actually, when we got cut off with our tech glitch there, I told her, I said, I feel really good about this. If Marjorie says that she's been talking to McCarthy, I've always wondered if no one would ever get to the bottom of it. I feel confident that that will happen. I pray it does, not just for the country, but especially for those people that, as you said, are losing hope. Some people have even committed suicide.

It's just really, really sad stuff. Some great things that have happened since the Republicans won in the midterm. The metal detectors are gone, which was a complete farce to try and make it seem like Republicans were, you know, terrorists. Dangerous, dangerous to Democrats. And two, already there are some Democrats that aren't being allowed on committees. And I was so afraid that because Republicans are so nice and so, you know, civil that they would, you know, they would get pressured to, you know, turn the other cheek. And I frankly, I'm tired of it. And I'm really glad to see that if they were going to remove people like you off of committees, that the Republicans are going to do tit for tat.

That's the only way to handle this. Yeah. And it's in. And thank you so much. This is here's, here's a little inside scoop. Back when they removed me from committees, Kevin McCarthy in an inside meeting, and I didn't know this until earlier this year, Devin Nunes was the one that told me Kevin McCarthy was screaming and yelling at Steny Hoyer and the rest of them for doing that to me.

And he said, you know what, if this is the route you want to go, then we will do it back to you. But Kevin McCarthy chose members that should be removed. I mean, he didn't just choose. It wasn't political. Adam Schiff, my goodness, lied to the country about Russian collusion, said he had proof. You know what? He never did. But I'm going to give you a little disagreement.

I didn't like this either way. When they took you off committees, they were like, you know what? They had all these reasons why. Since our founding, the party puts their people on committees without any say from the opposition party. And so I agree with you that these are bad actors. They keep getting reelected doing bad acts. But Democrats can place them on committees. But what's happening here is we're sliding to this lowest common denominator.

But I'm with Rachel and you, that if we don't play Democrats game, that we let them serve on committees, but our guys can't. And this, by the way, that's not it. There's issue after issue. We're never going to win. I hate that we go,

we keep sliding into, you know, more, you know, games on the playground. Yeah, and lack of bipartisanship. I mean, there was sort of this civility that existed. There was. games on the playground. You almost have to. There was sort of this civility that existed prior to frankly, prior to Donald Trump being elected and the craziness

that it elicited out of Democrats. But now that we're here, game on. Here we go. I don't want these rules, but you asked for them. We're going to play by your rules. Not the other rules. So yeah. Yeah. Ilhan Omar off of foreign affairs. Bye-bye. Swalwell. He's going to be removed off the intel committee.

Fing-fing. Yes. Yes. Fing-fing is gone. Sean, by the way, speaking of when you were serving in Congress, one of your former staffers came and found me on the House floor. And he said he absolutely loved working for you and really missed you being here and was just letting me know to call you guys back. So I thought that was so nice.

Well, you know, we got our disconnect. You had to go vote. And I'm like, I was like, we'll just wrap it up. And Rachel's like, no. No, we're not going to wrap it up. We need Marjorie back. And so I'm like, I'll call this former person that worked with me to go. He's like, yeah, we're buds. I'll go ask and see. I'm like, great. Thank you. So we appreciate you doing

this, making it, making it again. Can I ask you, I, I, Rachel has a list of questions, but as, as you go home to Georgia, I'm sure people love you. You go to the grocery store, you go to church, people think you're the best thing since a ham and egg sandwich. But you go to Washington, you go through the airport, I'm sure that you get people who can't stand you. They hate you. By the way, I'm just going to verify, I've not seen any horns on your head, you're not the devil. I'm just going to verify. I'm not seeing any horns on your head. You're not the devil.

And they treat you pretty poorly. How do you navigate kind of the hate that you get in D.C.? And you can tell me it doesn't hurt, but I'm sure it does. I mean, you're a strong person. And, again, you've got broad shoulders. But no doubt, those punches, it's like it can be hard. How do you do it? It is hard. I do you do it? It is hard. I appreciate you bringing that up.

As you both know, Washington, D.C. feels like almost like another country compared to going back home to your district or going anywhere out in America, really. Home is wonderful. It's where my friends and family are. People know me there. And they always treat me very well and support me. But yeah, in Washington, D.C., there's people that are so nasty. And remember when Maxine Waters came out and she said, wherever you see them, you make a crowd and you go after them. That is what they've done.

They got their marching orders. Hillary Clinton labeled us all as deplorables. And it was like they they commanded them. The Democrat leaders commanded their people to attack us whenever they see us. And it's absolutely wrong. And that harassed walking down the street. I get harassed walking from the Capitol back to my office building. I get harassed, you know, in airports, you know, here coming here. It's unbelievable to me. And, you know, we don't do that back. We don't. We shouldn't do that. That part we shouldn't do, Marjorie. We, you know, we want to be good human beings and good neighbors, and I think that's the place that we rise above and go. We don't treat human beings like that.

You're not just attacked in Washington, D.C. I mean, one of the most outrageous things I've seen, and I don't think it got enough attention, was when you were doxxed at your own home. It put your life in danger, put the life of your children in danger. I mean, it's just, and as a spouse who had, you know, we certainly had people that didn't like Sean and we had some really close call incidents where, you know, our family was under attack as well, but I just don't think it's on

the scale that you faced. And I just wonder how you handle it in your home and with your kids. how you handle it in your home and with your kids. Yeah, that was really unfortunate. I think I'm in the top five for death threats since I've been here. I have the most death threats. Nancy Pelosi and her sergeant in arms have refused to give me a security detail the entire time I've been here. No matter how many death threats we turn in, they've been horrific. the entire time I've been here, no matter how many death threats we turn in, they've been horrific. Yeah, my house was swatted six times after I introduced the Protect Children's Innocence Act to stop it. Yeah, I said docs, but I meant swatting. Yeah, swatted. But they do have my

address. My cell phone number is out there. The way I handle it is, well, number one, I'm a gun owner. And thank God for the Second Amendment, right? And that's a gift from our founding fathers. And it's our guaranteed right for Americans to own a gun and be able to protect yourself and your family if you ever need to. And then secondly, my kids are tough. They're tough people and they stand by me. And so the other most wonderful thing is my local police are, goodness, I can't say enough wonderful things about the police officers in my hometown and just police officers in general. They have protected me and supported me and always, I know they always will. So we have strict security at my house and a lot of guns, actually.

I'm not going to say much about them, but we are gun owners. What I find interesting is on the left, whether it was AOC or Ilhan Omar, Tlaib, they say radical, crazy, I would say un-American things. And they are celebrated. They're elevated, raising huge amounts of money. And I listen to you. I don't agree with everything, all of your positions. I agree with a lot of them, though. But it's like I'm going to fight for America.

I'm going to fight for a set of ideas that I believe in and my district believes in. And I think the problem with the left is they can't stand Republicans not being shamed into submission, not going, hey, listen, we've come after you. You're supposed to step back. You're supposed to go back into the shadows. You're someone who hasn't. You've stood in the light and continue to punch them back. They're not used to it. The first experience they had was with Donald Trump. They couldn't believe they couldn't take him down. And you're the next. And I don't want to fangirl you, Marjorie, but I've said that, you know, when you have someone who's willing to fight for their country like Trump is, I'm sorry. I love that. And I think if we had more members of Congress who fought that hard like you do,

I don't think any American would have any question about the country, the direction the country should go in and who they want to elect, who they want in office. and who they want to elect, who they want in office. More of you fighting for America with more passion. It's going to save the country, but sometimes I look and I don't want to be frustrated. Sometimes I'm like, why are you guys there? Don't you see what's happening? Stand up. You know, grit.

Come on. Am I wrong? No, you're absolutely right. And I mean, you know firsthand because you've been here. And Rachel, you've been here too. And it's an odd thing though, right? If you're a conservative, you're going to be attacked. But if you're a conservative woman, it's on a whole other level. Or try conservative woman minority.

I mean, Rachel's Latina. They really hate her. And in the house, some of those, you know, the attacks on Myra Flores and many other, I mean, it's just not to undermine what you've been through at all, but you're right. You're not allowed to step out of that box, right? No, you're not. And that is true. Poor Myra Flores.

They attacked her, you're not. And that is true. Poor Myra Flores. They attacked her, you know, relentlessly. Same thing with other minorities in our conference. And it's just wrong. But yeah, if you're a proud, outspoken conservative and you defend our values, then there is no limits that they won't go to in attacking you. And but you know what? Like you just said, Sean, we have to stand firm in our faith. We have to stand firm in our values. We have to protect our children and protect their future and most of all, protect our freedoms because those things are for every single American.

I mean, that's not even a political party. That's freedom is for everyone. And I think it's worth fighting for and being unapologetic about it. And that's what I've done, and I'll continue to do that. And I just hope more people get comfortable. It's kind of like the saying, get comfortable being uncomfortable. Yeah. And that's in the attitude of being unapologetic. And the thing is, when you have leaders who are courageous, the left is afraid that that'll inspire more courage.

They can't have that. So, again, I think that's a real threat, too. Yeah. Which we're seeing more of it. I mean, Donald Trump had a whole influence on the way. Again, we could do better, but conservatives fight differently now after Trump because they go, huh, you can go after the media and you can win? You can attack hosts for being liars? And America will support you for that because it's actually true. They lie to their viewers. Call them out. I'm sorry.

Absolutely. No, no. What I like about – what I've always loved about Sean in Congress is something I think you have and many Republicans have, and that is I think think, keeping that, you know, staying true to what you believe in, but keeping that happy warrior attitude about it and not getting drugged down. That said, I like the tit for tat. And one of the tit for tats that you said you were going to do is introduce impeachment for Joe Biden. So tell me why. Is this part of tit for tat? We're going to go on this one. Yes, this was tit for tat, but with more reason. The other one was over a supposed call to Ukraine to Zelensky. What are the reasons that you are going to lay out for why Joe Biden should be impeached? I believe the border is one of the top reasons. What is happening in our southern

border? And I learned some more information tonight when I was talking with one of the members of Homeland Security. Did you know there are babies being killed and stuffed with drugs and put in car seats to bring drugs across our border. No, I did not. Women's bodies being found. There's some horrific details that are coming out from down there. Over 5 million illegal aliens have attempted to enter our country, and those are the ones we know of. The fentanyl deaths, those are poisonings. Those are murders actually happening from the cartels.

This is all happening under Joe Biden's watch. It's on his watch. And he is refusing to keep his oath of office and defend the states. And that's the federal government's job. That's the president's job. I think that is complete reason right there for impeachment. Also selling our strategic petroleum reserves to China, to China, the number one buyer. You can't even make that up.

Pulling out of Afghanistan the way he did was an embarrassment to our military, completely insulting to every military and veteran that served in the Middle East, served in Afghanistan, abandoning Americans. Oh my goodness. How could he abandon Americans under the Taliban, the terrorists and the Taliban? And our partners, remember when they called them that? Yeah. Partners. Who calls the terrorists Taliban partners? And then what we're going to expose through Hunter Biden's laptop and the corrupt business dealings with all these foreign countries and talking about with the banking and all these flags on transactions of money being brought into bank accounts, not just belonging to Hunter, but very likely belonging to Joe Biden. I mean, the list is so long. This doesn't have anything to do with a phone call like President Trump, what they impeached him for the first time. These are very serious issues. And these are issues that even if it was if it was a Republican

president, I would say, yeah, we need to impeach him, too. And I think that our country needs to be honest about it. Well, it's unlawful. I mean, Marjorie, as you're in Congress, you can't have someone, you know, make money from foreign companies and then have access to you and then, you know, pay you a percent of what they make. You only get one salary. It's your congressional salary unless you had a prior business. But you can't sell your influence through someone else. That's exactly what Joe Biden did. It's illegal.

It's unlawful. And now, Rachel – And it's a national security risk. Because he's compromised. And so I think you're right. And again, when you have a deep state, when you have an FBI and a DOJ, you would think there'd be good people in there that want to investigate that. They want to get to the bottom of what really happened. I always mention this. A simple audit of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden will tell you what's going on. They refuse to do it. So it's going to come to the House. And I do hope that Comer and his team are able to get to the

bottom and get the evidence, get the documents. And by the way, if he didn't make any money, I want to know that too. Good. I feel a lot better. I feel more relieved. I don't think that's the case. But sunlight really kind of lets us all feel better about the democracy in which we live. You know, Marjorie, one of the things that I love about having – and there's so – I don't know how many women are now in the Republican conference. Do you know that number? Oh, gosh. I don't know that number. I feel really bad.

I know it's grown. I'll try to find out. I know it's grown, and I know the diversity of the women have grown as well. I know it's grown and I know the diversity of the women have grown as well. I love that there are so many moms in Congress right now because I've noticed that the things that you champion often, and it's why I'm drawn to you and so many of the women in your conference, that you talk about whether it's the castration and that's happening with our children, what's happening in our education system, you know, the indoctrination.

But also what you just said right now about what's happening at the border, I keep talking about as much as I can from our platform. We've had multiple podcasts on it. I try every Saturday that I can to talk about what's happening to the children. I mean, what you just said was so horrific. I interviewed Sarah Carter. She told me she has, you know, did conducted an interview with a with a smuggler for the cartels who said they're absolutely selling child organs, you know, on the black market. We have lost track of 40 percent of the children that have come across our border. We have no idea

where they are. This had happened under Trump. This would be, you know, front page news. Remember the Time magazine with the little girl crying that turned out to not really be crying about whatever, but they were, you know, using that to create all this emotion. How are they getting away with the atrocities being committed, the sex trade and everything else with children coming across the border. I don't know. I don't know, Rachel. I so agree with you. And I mean, from one mom to another, I really feel like being a mother is the greatest blessing I've ever had in my life.

It's the greatest job I'll ever have in my life. There's nothing you and I can ever do in our lives that's better than being a mom. And it is wonderful that we have more moms in Congress. But what you're talking about with these kids, I don't know how we as a society, we as a country, just as humans, how we cannot care about this and how we can allow it to continue. Because children are just innocent. They're the most innocent people on this planet. And, you know, this is happening on our watch. And if, you know, like you said, over 40%, we don't even know where these kids are.

Oh, my gosh. We don't even know where these kids are, but yet we know what Trump's tax returns say. I mean, it's, it's insane. Absolutely insane. And, um, it's, it's almost like, what, what is, how are we going to be judged by God? If we don't do something about this, it's any, you know, one child being murdered is bad enough, but, but, but children being trafficked, sex trafficking, you know, murder to bring drugs across the borders. And we're complicit. Our government is totally complicit in all of it.

And so these are the kind of hearings we're looking forward to having with you and the rest of the conference. I can't wait to get to the bottom of these things because it's life and death for so many people. Marjorie, I'm heartened that you guys have a speaker. the bottom of these things because it's life and death for so many people. Marjorie, I'm heartened that you guys have a speaker. You can start the work of getting members on committees and get to work exposing for the American people all the things we talked about on this podcast. And just as a personal note, I appreciate the grit, the hard work, and the backbone that you have fighting for your district. And again, you've seen your supporters across the country who go, listen, more Marjorie Taylor Greene's that fight like that.

You can save America. So thanks for taking the arrows and the punches. We appreciate it. And we appreciate coming on the podcast today, too. Coming back after you voted on the floor and after you had a tech problem. So nice of you. And we're so glad that your police department in your home district and your constituents love on you and help make up for some of the meanness out there. But there are lots of people that you hear about that you maybe don't hear about who are watching what you're doing, appreciate what you're doing, and appreciate that you've been willing to stand up for the voiceless, whether it's the children or the January 6th, some of

those that are being held unfairly and unconstitutionally. You've been a champion for them and you deserve credit for that. And I hope that you see it through. Thank you so much. And thank you to both of you. I really appreciate y'all having me on and appreciate what you guys say on TV every day. I really like it. So appreciate it. Keep fighting. And hey, you know what? Here's something interesting. My chief was reminding me that we went, Sean, you'll appreciate this. Fifty years. And Rachel, you like it, too. Fifty years without the Republicans being in a majority until under Newt Gingrich. And they did the contract for America.

And then, you know, it's like when you think about times like that, I'm that excited to be in the military. You should be. Yeah. So people need to have hope. We've been through a lot as a country, especially in the past few years, but I think it's important to have hope and never give up the good fight. And you know what? And never squander opportunity. Yeah. I was, I was in the majority for eight years and then I got nine months in the minority before I left. It was horrible. You had two years in the minority, but you realize this, this can be fleeting and you have to do all you can to make the biggest difference. And by the way, what I would say, you don't know how long your time is in the house. You have a moment to serve. It could be for four years. It could be for 40 years, but take that time and use it well. And you have for sure. Marjorie, thank you for joining us again. We are very grateful. Keep up the fight. Carry on. Okay. Thanks guys. Bye.

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people hate on her like no other, but great disposition. She's a scrapper. And I appreciate that as a conservative. I really do. And I think my takeaway from this interview is I feel hopeful. I feel very hopeful that these hearings are going, you know me, I'm always like harping on, oh, another hearing, and nothing ever happens. And I give you a lot of crap when we talk about you say, oh, they're going to do a hearing on this. But I actually think that what is needed is sunlight. And we need people to hear what happened, the whole truth, the good, the bad, the ugly. Let it all come out.

I'm for releasing every FBI file. I want the UFO stuff out. I want the JFK stuff out. I want it all out. Well, when you have the House, the Senate, and the presidency, like we had for two years, get stuff done. Well, you don't have that right now. Great point.

Right now you just have the House. So it's a time for hearings. It's a time for sunlight. It's a time for investigations. It's a time for accountability. And again, I think after the fight last week, hopefully this Republican know, this Republican team is a little stronger, a little better bonded. I actually think it's better for it. I know some people said, oh, it's embarrassing and it's like airing your dirty laundry. But I think it brought out what

needs, you know, you see that in families, Sean. Sometimes some families like to just put everything under the rug and pretend like nothing's happening. There is a division of sorts, ideologically. There were some things that people wanted. They fought for it. They got some of it. Now, she would say, Marjorie said, well, they didn't get much more than they asked for. But no matter what, things aired out. And I think people are going to be held more accountable.

The speaker, for example, more accountable to everybody. He has to keep everybody in line. And hopefully the things that need to happen, happen. I feel better about it. Maybe the guys in the conference don't. The ladies in the conference don't. If I had a crystal ball right here, there's going to be problems. It sounds like any family. That's the thing. You have a family. It's dysfunctional. Yeah, there's going to be problems. Okay. I just, it sounds like any family,

that's the thing. You have a family. It's dysfunctional. Yeah. Everyone's family is dysfunctional. There's a, there's a, there's a, there's a four seat majority, right? You can lose four seats to pass bills. And there are some people who are like, listen, I'm so far to the right. I can never vote with kind of these guys. Yeah, I can never vote with Georgia, you know. Right, or Texas. And I get that. But also, and again, the moderate guys that have, and I'm not advocating one side of that.

I'm just saying how this plays out. Yeah, you know that there's people on both sides. Those Joe Biden districts, those members there have a hard time coming too far to the right. You don't have a lot of coming too far to the right. You don't have a lot of leeway in how many votes you can lose. And all these members have to really talk to each other and really work with each other and understand each other. Because let me just give you guys one quick. Can they get past this, though?

Because I asked a question early on, for example, with Lauren Boeart and Marjorie Taylor Greene had a very public dispute. And I asked her, I said, have you guys kissed and made up? And she said, well, not yet. But she sounds like she's open to it. I don't know where Bobart is at on this. But there are other people with really hard feelings, Matt Gaetz and all this stuff. Do you see, based on what, and you know a lot of these players personally, you were there not that long ago, do you see that people can put the past behind them? Yeah, they can. Absolutely, they can. But you're going to have growing pains. I don't know,

it's different now, but we had problems when we first won the majority in 2010, took over in 2011. When you had some must-pass bills, things that you had to get done. And by the way, you want to use some of those must-pass bills to leverage some conservative policies. But John Boehner, at the time, if he had a third of his conference that were saying no to the bill, well, he couldn't take that third with the far right policies and go to Democrats and say, will you vote for this? They never would. So we had to water down the bills, and he didn't have enough Republican votes, so he went to Nancy Pelosi. Why are they must-pass? went to Nancy Pelosi. Well, you got to fund the government or it shuts down. You have to raise the debt limit or, you know, you don't pay your debts, you default on your debt. So those are

kind of the must pass bills that have to happen. And it's a good opportunity for leverage. But the most conservative bills will be when Republicans work together to navigate their differences, where the guys from the Joe Biden districts, the Democrats, the Joe Biden districts understand where the Texas, you know, and the Georgia's are coming from, and vice versa. But that takes maybe a lot of food, a lot of hors d'oeuvres, maybe a beer or two. I don't know. Yeah, you know, it's true. The job is a lot more relational than people understand. What happens there is a lot more complicated than people understand.

It really is. And you can throw food at the TV. But the things that are happening internally happen for a reason. And sometimes they're unnavigable. But oftentimes, when you have a relationship, when you've talked before the big issue comes up, and you work together before those issues come up, oftentimes you can resolve them. You also referred when you talked to Marjorie Taylor Greene, you said, you know, it moves as a blob. That's very technical word, a blob. No, I think it's actually a super

articulate and visual way. I mean, it actually is very descriptive and helps me understand it moves as a blob. Now I would say you were part of the blob. A lot of the times when you were in an office, you had a district that allowed you to be part of the blob. Sometimes you fought back sometimes, but how, what would be, what would, if you were in office now, knowing what you know from having been in office and been out of office, how would, and let's say you were back in, you were in the new majority, Sean, how would you, would you be operating the same way you did back in, you know, the eight years you were in Congress, or is there something different that you've learned from being out? Yeah. so it's interesting.

We've talked a little bit about this. I would be a far different member of Congress. Listen, I was a conservative member. You were a team player, and you were proud of that. But also understood how it's a team sport. I mean, this is an ultimate team sport. You can have a couple guys on a football field and think they can win the game. You need the whole team together.

There's no I in team. There is no I in team. But I always kind of say I've kind of lost my mind since I've left Congress. Sometimes I'll take your tinfoil hat and wear it myself. That's so bad. But here's, I think the- Well, things have changed.

Listen, COVID and everything happened after you left. COVID and all the stuff they did to Donald Trump. I believe that we're at a breaking point in the country. And I don't think you can make concessions any longer. You're losing the freedom of speech. They're attacking our gun rights. You have open borders. You have an FBI and a DOJ that are politicized, and they're using the power that we've generously given them to protect us to use on behalf of one party in punishment to another party.

That, for me, is just—I mean, so I look at $30 trillion in debt. This party is going to end. This does not last forever. You cannot continue to do this. The party, you mean not the legal party. You mean the... The political spending, the borrowing. The spending is going to end, yeah.

And your currency will crash. That will happen unless Congress can... Restrain. Can figure out how to restrain its spending. Yeah. And I'm really concerned. Yeah. And I would make concessions, but not many. I would fight like hell to save this country because it is, as Marjorie said, it's worth saving. And you need more people with harder backbones, with more calloused fists, punching and fighting, figuratively I'm saying, not literally, but fighting to save what is so great about the inheritance we had,

which is America, to pass that inheritance off to our kids. And I think we're losing that. This is completely, this America is different than our Ronald Reagan America. And I think it's fair to give them a Ronald Reagan America. But until you've been there, and you and I shared this together, we did the experience together, you don't... That's the dog,

Skippy. He's a squeaky dog. Come here, give me your toy. Do you want to see Skippy? I grew up with big dogs. Come here, get up here, baby. Come on, get up here. That heavy moment, this is Skippy. He is adorable.

He needs a haircut. But the guy that cuts his hair just retired. He needs a new hairdresser. What you can't tell is that Skippy really smells right now. So he needs a bath and a haircut. But he is probably the best dog we've had. He's the best dog. He is awesome.

This is his dog. He's a Wisconsin dog. He is awesome. This is his duck. He's a Wisconsin dog. Yeah, he likes to go duck hunting. He bit the wing off of the duck. Go get your duck. Anyway. Finish that thought. I'm sorry about that.

I don't know what my thought was. Anyway, I don't know. This country is worth saving. It is worth saving. People have to fight. You have to work together as a team. You don't have a huge majority. But people have to understand.

Hopefully, people understand that something's on the line. What's at stake? You have to know what's at stake and what you're fighting for because if we don't have that, I don't know what we're going to have. It's a pretty frightening future. It's starting to get to the point where we don't recognize it. And if you talk to people who are even a little bit older than us, they'll say, I don't recognize the country anymore. I know my own mom, who was an immigrant who came, you know, in the late 60s, early 70s to the country, will say, this isn't the country that I was so proud to become a citizen of. This is not the same place.

And so, you know, there's a lot to fight for. It's heartening to see somebody like Marjorie Taylor Greene. It's heartening to see her get behind Kevin McCarthy and go, this is this is we can make this happen. We can do this together. That's a process where you can have a vote to, to fire the speaker. And it's a privilege has been dropped now. Well, so it used to, it used to be only one per any person could introduce the resolution. Paul Ryan said, I'm not going to do this job unless you take that away. I'm not going to be held hostage by anybody. So the conference took it away and now they brought brought in five people to say we want to recall the chair. And so if you don't like what Kevin McCarthy does, you can fire him. You know what? You're not stuck with Kevin McCarthy for two years. From what I've seen from the speaker, I think, again, we talked about not who's more conservative than who can manage this conference, who can herd the cats to get them all together to get the best and right bills done. That's what you need. People have to understand it.

And I'll use an example from the senate from from years ago you can have a scott brown who's the most moderate you would say squishy rhino republican or you can have elizabeth warren and so if you want to keep scott brown and not have elizabeth warren you on the right if you're in texas and georgia and tennessee and all these really conservative places you got to find a place that works for Scott Brown too. That he can land in. Because if he can't land, you're going to get Elizabeth Warren. I was there when Scott Brown won.

Republicans were so, they went to Congress and they're like, I gave money to that squish. He is horrible. And again, we had talked about this. I would say the same line you just used is like well you can have Scott Brown from Massachusetts or you can have Elizabeth Warren

and they're like now they have Elizabeth Warren or Pocahontas Pocahontas is the same well anyway we have to have dinner yeah with our kids

I started them off we gotta go join them again we weren't at the kitchen table because I decided to clean out my pantry today and so my pantry is on my kitchen island.

So we had it here in our library, which we love our little dad here. And you got to meet Skippy. And you got to meet Skippy. Anyway. So great, great podcast. Great guests. Absolutely. Interesting conversation.

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