From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Takeaways From The Midterms & The GOP Moving Forward
Episode Date: November 11, 2022On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down to discuss the results of the 2022 Midterm Elections and share their takeaways from key races across the country.  Later, Rachel talks about how she believe...s voters are moving to states that more closely align with their values, Sean breaks down the issues that were major factors in the election, and together they discuss what the Republican party can do with majority control of the House of Representatives. Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my partner for the podcast
and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy.
Thank you, Sean. It's good to be here and talk about, I think, what is an important
midterm election, but also I think there are
some bright spots here and a lot of people are down and out today and maybe not necessarily,
Sean. I mean, Donald Trump won 93% of all of the races he endorsed, although he did lose
some of the more, I guess, high profile races, Pennsylvania with Dr. Oz.
But I think there's going to need some time here for the dust to settle to figure out what really happened.
Well, I agree. There are some there are some bright spots.
I'm just going to eat a little bit of crow right now on a podcast.
I thought that the House was going to go big.
Republicans were going to have a 30-seat majority.
It looks like Republicans may have a 10-seat majority, give or take a couple seats.
I also called a 51-seat majority in the Senate.
That's still alive because we're still counting votes in Nevada.
We're counting votes in Arizona.
And there's going to be a runoff in Georgia now. It looks like Laxalton in Nevada is hanging in Nevada. We're counting votes in Arizona. And there's going to be a runoff in Georgia. Now,
it looks like Laxalt in Nevada is hanging in there and has a pathway to victory.
It's going to be tough for Masters to win against Kelly in Arizona. But obviously,
that race hasn't been called. We have to wait a month until we get to the runoff election in
Georgia. By the way, that won't matter if Republicans lose both Nevada and Arizona,
election in Georgia. By the way, that won't matter if Republicans lose both Nevada and Arizona, because Democrats will have the majority no matter what. But taking control of the House,
firing Nancy Pelosi gives Republicans in the Congress a whole set of gavels that allow them
to do massive oversight over Joe Biden and Hunter Biden and the FBI and the DOJ and the CIA and education,
the botched Afghanistan withdrawal, a whole bunch of oversight will come from the House,
as well as good legislation to get our economy back on track. So that's a positive.
Yeah, that is definitely a positive. But I guess I was really looking forward to some of the
hearings coming out of the Senate, especially with Ron Johnson.
And that will depend on whether the Senate is in Republican hands or not.
And so that's that's a big deal, right?
Well, it is a big deal. But at least if you have one body, one body can do oversight.
But again, the likes of Ron Johnson have been powerful in the Senate.
oversight. But again, the likes of Ron Johnson have been powerful in the Senate. He's been unafraid in his effort to seek the truth. And given that guy, Gavel, that Senator Gavel from
the great state of Wisconsin would do wonders. But again, at least Republicans do have Gavels.
Rachel, maybe we should talk a little bit about what we think happened,
Maybe we should talk a little bit about what we think happened, because there's no clear line.
We're so close to the election.
All the exit polling and all the data is not in, and there's no clarity really on what happened to the red wave that Republicans were supposed to have with issues that were great for them.
I mean, the economy has been faltering.
Democrats have destroyed it.
Republicans are great on the economy and border security and crime and schools teaching kids to read and write math and science as opposed to indoctrinating them.
A whole issue set that sits in their favor, all the while Democrats ran on abortion and
democracy, and they seem to do pretty well with the American voter in
this election with a couple of issues that I'm surprised that the American voter fell for when
their pocketbooks are getting crushed. You know, I don't, I have a different thought on this. I look
at a place like New York City that has, you know, massive crime spikes and increases and Democrats even living
in the city, AOC, for example, saying, oh, it's no big deal. It's exaggerated. Same with
Mayor Eric Adams, you know, really downplaying it. Same with Governor Hochul downplaying
what everyday citizens who ride the subway or walk on the streets of New York have to
deal with. But I look at the amount that, you know, our good friend, uh, Zeldin, Lee Zeldin lost by,
and I wonder if he lost by the amount of people who left New York city. Do you know what I'm
saying? Like, is it that blue cities are getting bluer and red places
are getting redder and that this red wave was sort of based on a model, maybe a pre-COVID model of,
you know, the ability to, you know, swing voters to your side, but maybe those,
those voters who were most susceptible to be swung to your side, um, independence and maybe
some common sense Democrats, the few that are left,
maybe they left. And they went to Florida and voted by a 20 point margin for Ron DeSantis.
Yeah. Well, I look at New York and just to be, I'm going to go off on a second here because
I think the crime issue is so pronounced in this city and it's on the forefront of voters' minds. And I know that
a lot of news networks carry all the crime stories coming out of New York and a lot of the producers
for news networks live in New York City, so they care about it. But as a Wisconsin guy, I look at
New York and I'm like, you know what? Why does news outlets cover crime in New York? They vote
for this garbage.
They want left-wing liberal Democrats who don't want to enforce the law that favor criminals over victims and people are living in fear.
And all the while, these voters who live in these cities say, you know what?
We want more of that.
We want more progressive policies that don't enforce their laws, that have drug sales on the streets, carjackings all over, rapes and murders and gunshots firing in the neighborhoods.
That's what they want. And if that's what they want, I mean, I think that's disgusting. I don't want to live in a community like that.
But if they want that, so be it. Why do we cover those stories? Let them live in squalor. Let them live in filth. Let them live in violence. So be it.
I hear you on that, Sean. And I, you know, you and I feel the same way. You know, we walk,
we would never want to live in New York City. It smells like pot and urine. It's disgusting.
It's completely deteriorated in the seven years that I've been coming back and forth to the city.
I've seen the decline. And I agree. People vote. You know, they knew that voting for Eric Adams
wasn't going to change a damn thing. It was a slight improvement over de Blasio. So I'm with
you on that. I'll tell you where I feel bad. I feel bad for the people of Arizona. You know,
I'm from Arizona. My parents live in Arizona. And you see an election like this. To me,
My parents live in Arizona. And you see an election like this. To me, it was very clear that Carrie Lake was going to win.
It's not just because she is seems so competent and she is so, you know, dead set on fixing the border and seems like such a credible person to actually do it because she seems so strong and competent.
But also because her opponent, Katie Hobbs, is so bad.
She's like an SNL sketch. She's like worse than Veep. I've never seen a worse, less prepared,
more incompetent candidate than Katie Hobbs. And she's overseeing the election and all of the
machines and things that aren't working in Maricopa County. She's overseeing the election and all of the machines and things that aren't working in Maricopa County.
She's overseeing her own election.
I feel bad for the people of Arizona because I don't feel like things are on the up and up there.
And I think it's it's it's sad that in this day and age, they can't have an election that people can count on.
And I'm telling you, Sean, you know how I feel about same day voting and early voting.
I hate early voting. I don't think we should have early voting.
I think we should not just vote on the same day. We should vote with the same information as everybody else.
And if you're voting in September, you're not voting on what you know in October.
And I think it's wrong. And clearly, Sean, I think that fed a little bit into some of the polling, this idea that people were casting ballots, you know, way back in early September when perhaps they were still, you know, the issue of abortion and Roe versus Wade were still steaming.
But as the economy got worse, it was very clear from the polling that the American people were worried about gas prices.
They're choosing between heating and eating. And it was too late. Too many of those votes were already cast. And also,
you had the lack of, I think, competency of elections in places like Arizona.
But a little pushback on that. Again, those voters chose to cast their ballots without
all the information they would have had had they waited six weeks into October until November 8th. They chose not to wait to have that information. They wanted to cast their ballot right away. The rules said they could.
is the fact that you had a lack of ink in the machines that cause long lines for election day voters, which are usually Republican voters in some Republican-leaning areas. That doesn't smell
very good to me. No, it doesn't. If the voters of Arizona cared about Katie Hobbs overseeing her own
election and were angry about that, they could have come out in droves and voted against her.
They didn't. It's a really close race in Arizona. They chose to say, that's okay, Katie, run your own election.
Now we might say that's unfair, but the voters aren't punishing her for running her own election.
It's a tight race. And so again, you get the government that you vote for and liberals are
getting the government that they vote for. And sadly in in America, we might be living, you know, with the Senate with a John Fetterman from Pennsylvania, who is a radical lefty. I mean, some of the most radical
leftist policies John Fetterman holds, and he's gonna have a hard time doing the job, you know,
sadly, because of his stroke. And the Pennsylvania voter said, you know what, I'd rather have,
you know, a guy in a pair of baggy shorts and a hoodie, who's having a hard time, you know, campaigning, let alone probably doing the job, but rather have that than a,
than a heart surgeon. Well, maybe they were voting for Giselle, Sean, who's by the way,
worse than, she's more radical. She's so radical, Sean, that she actually volunteers. Like think
about all the things with your extra time you can volunteer to do. She volunteers at abortion clinics. That's how how radical she is. Not a food kitchen. No, she goes to an abortion mill
to volunteer. So she is worse. And I suspect people think just like Joe Biden, he might not
make it through the full term. And I think maybe Giselle is going to take over. And she was on the campaign trail. She was. And you're right.
The people voted for him.
And I saw a funny, I think it was a tweet.
I can't remember where I saw it. But they said the people of Pennsylvania decided that having a stroke was less terrible than having lived in Jersey, which is, of course, what they accused Dr. Oz of.
So I guess they made that decision. Frankly, I don't know why Dr. Oz, I'll never understand why Dr. Oz didn't resonate with
the voters, especially when you compared him to Fetterman. I thought Dr. Oz was a good candidate,
a smart guy. I didn't agree with him on everything, but I thought he was going to do a more than
competent job, a serious job and take the job seriously. I look at Fetterman and it's not just
what happened in with the stroke shot. He just doesn't look like somebody who takes anything
seriously. Yeah. I think you're right. And it kind of goes to like what happened in the election.
Let me give you a couple of my ideas, what the themes could have been. And I don't know if it was any one of these. Again, the dust is still settling. But
a lot of people have said it was Donald Trump. Donald Trump said he was going to announce
his presidency the day of the election. He was going to announce it a week from then.
They're saying that Donald Trump picked bad candidates, whether it was Dr. Oz, whether it was Masters, but he also picked J.D. Vance,
who won. And I want to talk about the Donald Trump factor. That could have been an energizing,
motivating factor for Democrats to get out and vote. That wasn't seen in a lot of the polling.
There was an NBC poll that came out a couple of days before the election that said that Democrats
were more energized. I laughed at that poll, and I think it was actually right.
Valentina was here taking a nap, and now she's woken up.
So she's crying in the background.
I apologize for the kitchen table action here.
But look at Monica de la Cruz on the border of Texas was endorsed by Donald Trump, a Democrat seat that she actually won.
Derek Van Orden, a Democrat held seat that was then open
in Wisconsin, 50-50 seat. Donald Trump endorsed and he won. Wesley Hunt in Texas, he won.
Tony Gonzalez in Texas was also a hotly contested race. He's an incumbent,
but still, it's a very Democrat area endorsed by Trump. He held onto his seat as well.
There were lots of races that he held
onto. You know, I don't know, at the end of the day, some people said, Sean, it was abortion.
And I'll tell you what, if a lackluster midterm is the price that pro-lifers like us had to pay
for Roe versus Wade being overturned, I mean, we'll take that every day of the week. I mean, right. But there were pro-life
and pro-choice measures on the ballot as well. And the pro-choicers won many of those ballot
measures. In conservative states, they won. In conservative states. And so what that tells me,
Sean, is that politically, we won the big one, right? We won the lottery with the overturning of
Roe versus Wade. It's the cultural work. That's the hard work. And that has to be done. I tell
you, young girls right now have been so indoctrinated with this sort of girl boss,
girl power, this very anti-family, anti-child, you know,
live for yourself mentality. And they also live in a very, we live in a very expendable,
you know, society where everything is disposable and that includes children. And so the messages
they're getting from social media, from culture, from everything is live for yourself.
Children will hinder you. Go, you know, go on that trip. Go do this. Go do that.
And so I think all of that altogether, social media, Hollywood, all of it and politics.
There's a lot of cultural work for the pro-life movement to do to bring back a
culture of life so there's been a lot of emphasis on the politics and it's paid off but you will
lose these other initiatives if if we don't do the hard work of of changing hearts and minds and it
can be done people change their minds about slavery and how they felt about that over time. The same thing has to happen,
the same kind of education and work at a real grassroots heart level.
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Well, to that point, 60% of single women vote a Democrat,
30% vote a Republican.
Rough numbers, but that's a massive vote,
and that probably comes down quite a bit to abortion and a little bit more services that
Democrats offer in their policies.
But it also could have been, Rachel, that the Democrats were saying, listen, there's
this MAGA Republican, election denier Republican, semi-fascist Republican, democracy sees at
stake.
What impact did that have on the race?
I don't know.
They came out at the end saying,
listen, Social Security and Medicare are in jeopardy. Did that move senior voters to say, I doubt that worked, Sean. Haven't they been trying that for so long?
But these are themes that were used in the campaign, and I don't know what worked with who.
And again, I would sit back and laugh at what they're trying to run on with
what's going on in America right now. And frankly, they stemmed this massive wave. Again, they're
going to lose the house, but they did remarkably well on a set of issues that I think were horrible
for them to run on and they pulled it through. And it brings me to this question, Rachel.
We're talking about things that we can actually see right now, we can talk about.
But there's some things that happen that we can't see, that we can't know, that we don't even know
are happening. And that's the role of big tech. And Tucker Carlson today has a great special
on the influence of Google and the way they throttle up messages or throttle down messages on their search engine,
they can impact the outcomes of elections. The same thing could happen for Facebook
or Twitter or Instagram or TikTok. And we don't know at all what those big tech companies that
are very leftist, what they did in this election to actually drive turnout or drive opinions one way or the other, which is why I think a Republican House doing oversight to figure out what big tech is doing, what kind of a contribution is that to the Democrat Party or to individual candidates?
should be criminally prosecuted and new laws should be passed about what big tech can do with their algorithms to influence elections in America because it's a really, really powerful tool.
Yeah. I mean, we spent, what, four years looking at so-called Russian meddling in elections. And
it was like the Russians spent like $4,000 on some really crappy ads on Facebook.
This is serious stuff. In fact, I'm really glad you brought it
up, Sean, because if you haven't, if our listeners have not gone on to Fox Nation and pulled up
Tucker Carlson today, it's an episode. It came out around, I guess, October 10th. It's with
Dr. Robert Epstein, and it's called Big Tech Election Meddling. I think it is the most important
Tucker Carlson today that I've seen, and I've seen many, many good ones. It is absolutely the
most important, Sean, and I really hope that this new Republican majority house brings in Dr.
Epstein to show what he has discovered. Oddly, I mean, for such an important topic,
a topic that so much hinges on,
seems to be the only one who has a massive study going on to study the impact, he's a psychologist,
to study the impact of big tech
on basically what we do
based on the messages they're sending.
It's sort of like mind control, right?
And he literally says that the idea that we have free and fair elections
is that it's an illusion because big tech is turning up the dial for the Democrats
and turning down the dial for the Republicans.
He's actually a Democrat himself.
I think this is one of the most important things that the House, I mean, and you know,
I care about Hunter Biden. The fact that our president is compromised by the Chinese, boy,
do I want to get to the bottom of that. I want to get to the bottom of what they're doing with
energy policy, all kinds of stuff. But nothing could be more important than our election integrity.
And the role of big tech, as you said, Sean, is silent.
We don't see it.
We can't see it happening.
And that's what this guy was talking about.
Powerful stuff.
And it absolutely is changing the way people vote.
You know, you had mentioned that to bring this fellow in
that was on Tucker Carlson today to talk about it. He's a Democrat, but talking about the influence of big tech and free and fair elections, to have a hearing with him, but also the CEO of Google.
Have them at the same panel, at the same table, and have a great discussion about what they're doing. That's what the House should do.
what the House should do. And again, that is the bright spot. And I'll just mention another bright spot. You've seen this solidifying of the working American voting Republican and the rich liberal
coastal elite voting Democrat. Yeah, that was solidified. But also you saw greater pickups
in percentages with the Hispanic community and with the African-American community for the Republican Party.
Some trends are breaking. We're in a once in a generation political shakeup and mix up here that is seeing states vote differently than they always have.
Arizona, always Republican, trending more Democrat. Georgia, more Republican, trending now more Democrat.
trending more Democrat, Georgia, more Republican,
trending now more Democrat.
But Florida, purple state,
sometimes blue state is now red.
Ohio was a blue state, then a purple state.
Now it's a red state.
You're seeing competitive races.
And I mean, you gotta remember the Pennsylvania that we're talking about Pennsylvania is a big deal
because that was a deep blue state.
Republicans really never had a shot at winning Pennsylvania.
Donald Trump won Pennsylvania in 2016.
Great point.
I think it was the first time since 1988 that a Republican president won the state of Pennsylvania.
So the working men and women of Pennsylvania say, I want a different course.
And Republicans fit my values more so than Democrats.
So the political map is shaking up.
We just did one other one.
I just say really West Virginia.
It's not red and it's not red and blue.
It's not black and white.
It's elites versus the working class versus Donald.
You're right.
But West Virginia, always a reliable blue state.
Now it's reliably red. Now, Virginia used to be Republican and now it's, you know, trending more Democrat. So it's interesting. We're in this makeup right now of a shakeup in the map of America. And we're watching it in real time in these elections.
just say, you know, I'm a little disappointed, but I am heartened with the fact that Republicans do have one chamber. They can put a legislative stop to Joe Biden. They're going to have a hard
time putting a stop. By the way, that's if Republicans don't win the Senate. That's not
a foregone conclusion yet. Republicans still can win it. But to have those gavels, stop bad
legislation, and do oversight over this administration, that is going
to do wonders for sanity in Washington, which is needed for the last two years, no doubt.
Sean, do you know who Patricia Heaton is, the actress?
I do.
So she was on Everybody Loves Raymond. I don't know if she's a conservative or Republican,
I should say. I know she's a Catholic and she's a pro-lifer.
And I was looking at my Twitter today and she tweeted this out.
She tweeted, for those of you who are Christians and who feel disappointed or despairing of
the election results, it is a blessing to be reminded that our security does not rest
in men or governments, which are finite and will eventually crumble. I think that's interesting. Lives of, you know, the unborn, the lives of even people in Africa who right now are starving because of our crazy green energy policies that are happening here and in Europe.
People's lives are affected by politics.
There's no question about it.
But in the end, I think you and I have always said that it really comes down to family and it really comes down to, you know, I mean, ultimately, are we maybe even,
I hear this a lot from people and I agree, you know, we're in a spiritual battle right now for
our country, for our families. There's no question if you're dealing with people trying to indoctrinate
your kids and convince them that they're, your little son is a little girl and confuse them
about their gender and start to introduce them to pornographic
sexual materials in kindergarten when they don't aren't ready for any of that, you know,
there's a spiritual battle going on.
But maybe, you know, we can't put too much of our hope in these elections.
We have to do some of the work right in our homes with our own kids.
A hundred percent.
work right in our homes with our own kids. A hundred percent. The family is the pathway to salvation in America because raising good kids that are well-educated, where you talk about these
topics is so important because if you give a blank slate to the school system and to TikTok and
Instagram, they know what to do with it. They are indoctrinating your little Johnny and little Susie into a cultural radical warrior.
But also, Rachel, it's important. Again, I agree with you. We have faith, God, and family.
We love our country. But you see the left, and traditionally, this is what happens.
They want to take that right away from you. And so government and politics is important to preserve these constitutional ideals that our founders gave us
and protected for us in that document. The left wants to eradicate from society and demonize it.
I mean, we did a podcast on the rosary, that the rosary is a violent weapon now. I mean,
We did a podcast on the rosary, that the rosary is a violent weapon now.
I mean, this is insane stuff, but this is what they do. And again, we have to rely on God, focus on our families, but also get involved in politics to make sure that we have preserved that right to practice our faith the way we see fit and have the freedom to raise our kids consistent with our values.
And that does come down to politics.
So you're right. I think these two things, three things go together completely.
So, yeah, I think also that, you know, we have to protect, we have to protect the family. So
we talk about, we need, we need to say, but government is going after your family and
government through, you know, their schools and the unions and all the Marxist, cultural Marxist ideology that they're pushing in the schools and through the social media, they are trying to separate your child from you and your values.
And some of that is on the ballot for sure. And not just at this, you know, congressional level. It's on the ballot at your school board level or, you know, county board level.
It's on the ballot at your school board level or county board level.
So, yeah, I'm not trying to dismiss it, but I also want people to have a perspective on what's going on.
Sean, can I ask you really quick, what do you make of this?
You're feeling it in the winds right now, the political winds, this idea of trying to pit Donald Trump against Ron DeSantis and forcing this idea that it feels like in the media, there's a desire to make people pick right now. Who are you with,
DeSantis or Trump? As if we were in a primary already. Well, I think we are somewhat in a
primary, Rachel. I think he's going to announce in a week, you know,
Rhonda Sanders had a big night and you know,
it looks like he's probably going to run.
That is going to be the big Goliaths running against each other.
And the party is going to be split and one's going to win and they're going to
then have to, to, to unify at some point.
And you always say good primaries
make people better candidates.
Or do you think this is going to,
will that have that effect?
No, I think as long as the party unifies after,
you got to unify and get around your candidate.
You can't take your ball and go home
if the electorate can do that.
And usually these primaries are early enough
where that can happen before a presidential.
And the differences are going to be so stark between whether it's Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis and Joe Biden or Kamala
Harris or Gavin Newsom. And so I do think Republicans will come home and candidates
are better when they're when they're tested in primaries. Metal sharpens metal. Always,
I think, a good thing. I do think we should keep it somewhat clean and keep it on the policy issues.
That won't happen with Donald Trump, Sean.
That you know that he plays hard.
And Ron DeSantis plays hard, too.
So it'll be a good matchup.
But you know what I think?
Do you think there could be someone else in there?
Oh, I think there's going to be a lot of people getting in this primary.
I think whether it's Nikki Haley or Mike Pompeo or Tim Scott or Rick Scott, there's going
to be a number of them that get in, but then I think you'll see them get out very quickly.
Here's my takeaway.
We didn't do as well as I would have liked.
I think you feel the same way, Rachel.
I'm going to lick my wounds.
I want to figure out what we didn't do right, what we got wrong, learn from it, and come back even stronger in two years from
now and win the presidency. The Senate map in two years from now, a lot of really tough seats for
Democrats are up for election. Republicans, if they don't take the Senate this election,
if we don't get it now, Republicans are going to get it two years from now, no doubt. More than
likely, they'll expand in majorities in the House. And you may have the presidency, which gives
Republicans a great opportunity to roll back so many of these crazy policies and do smart things.
So what I'm telling you is we may have to be a little patient and we have to be really smart as we roll forward and take the win that we got in the house. And I do hope that
Kevin McCarthy rocks this thing. I got to go on one second, Rachel, but if I can make one quick
point, Joe Biden was basically taunting Republicans about coming after his son, Hunter Biden.
taunting Republicans about coming after his son, Hunter Biden. And is this guy stupid?
Republicans aren't going after Hunter Biden. They're not going after your son, Joe.
They're coming after you because you sold the vice presidency through your son to foreign actors.
So you could get rich and sell our country out. We're coming for you, Joe. We don't care about Hunter,
but Joe Biden, you're going down. If you were the big guy and you were getting 10% of these deals that your son was cutting with China and Ukraine and Russia, oh, we're coming, Joe. Watch out.
Well, and it's not if, Sean, I asked Ron Johnson, Michael Pillsbury, who is a China expert, and Gordon Chang on three different occasions, probably more because I've interviewed them multiple times.
And every single one of them says yes. And in the case of Ron Johnson and Michael Pillsbury, they actually Chinese intelligence knows exactly what Joe Biden has done.
Russian intelligence knows exactly what Joe Biden has done.
He is compromised and he has sold out the American worker,
the American people for his own enrichment.
And by the way, not giving a pass to Jill Biden.
Jill Biden also had keys to Hunter Biden's office.
I hope that they go after her as well,
because she's been deeply involved.
There's absolutely forensic evidence that will prove that Joe Biden, you know, was benefiting from Hunter Biden's money.
And we already know from Tony Bobulinski that Joe Biden was involved and was lying to the American people when he said he knew
nothing about what Hunter Biden was doing. And I think it's one of the biggest scandals in American
history. And it couldn't happen at a more dangerous time. Sean, as you know, Joe Biden is going to be
meeting with President Xi very shortly. And I don't think we've ever met with President Xi as a country,
with our leader being, I mean, this is probably the weakest our leaders have ever been
in meeting with him. It's a dangerous time. We've enjoyed the conversation. And if you did too,
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