From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - The 2024 Republican Primary Is Over

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

What can the latest presidential polls tell us about the 2024 Republican Primary? Sean and Rachel look at the numbers, and weigh in on why they believe it is time for everyone not named Donald Trump to drop out and place support behind the former President. Later, they weigh in on former Vice President Al Gore's recent comments on climate change and why they believe couples shouldn't wait to have children. Follow Sean & Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host of the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, the one, the only, Rachel Campos Duffy. That was such a sweet introduction, honey. Thank you. Well, thank you. What do you want from me? Well, first of all, both of us have a little bit of raspy. Well, Sean's coughing.

I have raspy voice. He has a runny nose. Kids were home all day yesterday. All of them, you know, sick on different stages. One home, two home today, honey. Two home today so crazy um in the duffy house so but we're going to get through this i'm just going to sound a little sexier

yes a little bit sexy voice i'm just going to sound a little sexier or like you have a male co-host all right so we have a great show we're going to do three hot topics um we're going to do three hot topics. We're going to talk about this woman who met a guy and realized very late in life that she actually wanted to have kids. She kind of regrets the feminist lies that were being told to her. you know, women in their late 30s. And it's sort of a warning sign to a lot of women in their 20s about, you know, our biological clocks and what the culture and what feminism is telling us. We're going to get into that story. It's kind of a big news. It kind of went viral on insider.com. Fox News covered it as well.

Then we're going to talk about Al Gore, who thinks he knows the reason why we have a mental health crisis. And we're going to explain. And if it's Al Gore, you can imagine it is probably something about climate change. Yes. We're going to dig into this because COP 28 just ended. And there was a really aggressive conversation around.

That was in Dubai, right? It was in Dubai, but a phase out of fossil fuels. An agreement wasn't reached. We're going to talk about that and what it means for us, the average Americans, and what it means for democracy that this conversation is being had.

But first... But first, I am looking at some poll numbers, Sean, for Trump and the other candidates, and I'm just going to go ahead and declare it. I think the primary is over for the Republican side. I think it's over.

So, let's talk about the poll numbers. You're going to break down the numbers for us, right? Let's talk about the poll numbers with the Republican primary candidates versus Joe Biden. So this is the Wall Street Journal just came out with this polling. It has Donald Trump at 47, Joe Biden at 43. So that's a four-point lead. By the way, if you put in other potential third-party candidates like RFK and Joe Manchin, Trump's lead actually grows further. There's been a conversation about does Donald, do the third-party candidates take from Joe Biden or Donald Trump? This polling would say it's the third-party candidates take from Joee biden cornell west as well as in the race

uh desantis is tied with biden 45 45 um and nikki haley um actually comes out on top biden 34 nikki haley 51 um so why do you think that 17 point advantage burden for nikki haley what what's your what's your political analysis on that? Okay, well, I'll tell you that and we'll get into some other statewide polls. But listen, so I think it's really simple. There are a lot of people, I'm going to put air quotes around, in the middle that are frustrated with Joe Biden, his far lurch to the left, his radical policies, his failing health. And they don't want Joe Biden, but is far lurched to the left, his radical policies, his failing health, and they don't want Joe Biden, but they also don't want Donald Trump because they'd say,

you know what, Donald Trump, I think he's too extreme. He can be too erratic. And Nikki Haley, I think for some voters, and by the way, I think this is because they haven't really scratched into who Nikki Haley is and what her policies are. But because they haven't, she seems like an acceptable alternative to both Trump and DeSantis, which is why she does so such well in the polling. Right. Which is why a lot of donor money has moved towards her. And despite that advantage that she has, Sean, in that poll, she cannot win the primary, the Republican primary. And we always say there's a few axioms in politics that are really true. One of them is you don't get to pick the time.

The time picks you. So you may want to run, but it may not be your time. You're not going to win. Or you saw like Chris Christie back in the day when he said, I'm going to step down and let somebody else run. And the time passed him. So the time picks you. This is not Nikki Haley's time. 2012 against Barack Obama. He let that race pass him by

when he was hot. Right. That was a hot moment for Chris Christie. Just look at him on the stage now. He's part of a bygone era. And that's exactly why I think Nikki Haley can never get out of this primary and and and and take advantage of the way at least these early polls show her doing against Joe Biden. And that is because when you look at the stage of the last debate or any of the debates that we've had in the Republican primary, she also, like Christie, looks like she's part of that Bush Republican era that has gone by. I mean, it's gone. That era is gone. The that era's gone the neocon the neocon the establishment and that's why the big dollars have gone towards her now these big donors that have moved from desantis who they're now angry and disappointed in because they thought that you know their money could overcome his his um his one issue I mean, let's face it, he's good on policy.

It is a connection, a personality, a, you know, problem that he has and he has not been able to connect the voters. And Donald Trump has effectively labeled him as disloyal. And I don't think any of the other attacks that Donald Trump has had on him have been effective because his policies stand for themselves. They do. But he does not connect with people. It was a kind of a move to, you know, after Donald Trump helped to win the governorship to run against him in the primary when he was clearly, you know, had that that wrapped up in many ways. And it hasn't gone well for for DeSantis. He is failing in the polls. Nikki Haley has caught him.

And the donors are mad at Ron and giving the money to Nikki Haley. And you told me, Sean, that you thought that money could actually help her give a better showing in the Iowa caucus. It could. So first, you have a donor base that is anybody but Donald Trump. If it was Ron DeSantis, if it was Nikki Haley, if it was Chris Christie had a shot, they'll take anybody but Donald Trump. And they think that their money can help buy them a primary victory for the candidate that's not Donald Trump. And what we see is fascinating is there's such a disconnect between the people who have a ton of money that live in elite circles, oftentimes in big cities like in New York on Wall Street. They're so far removed and disconnected from the real lives of the average American and the people that they're picking as their primary horse. America, places like where we come from, where people are like, you know what? We have lost our technology. We have lost our jobs to China. I don't believe in transgenderism. We shouldn't

be transitioning little kids. There's a story from Wisconsin, my old congressional district, where a young boy wore a second amendment. It just said he didn't have a gun, but he wore a second amendment shirt to school and they sent him home. But the teacher in northern Wisconsin, and the teacher has an LGBTQ plus flag history teacher in her room. Well, this is what's happening now in rural America. The community lost their minds. And we crafted their policy

and the teacher took down the LGBTQ plus sign or flag and they made a rule to go, listen, if you're talking about the American constitution, like the second amendment, which is part of the constitution, you can wear that. Now, we don't want you to wear guns. We're not talking about shooting people. But if you just have a shirt that references the Second Amendment.

I thought we were Americans. That's where we are. We're the second. So what town was that, Sean? I think that was in Merrill. Right north of Wausau. Merrill, Wisconsin. Yeah.

Unbelievable. Don't get mad at me if I got that wrong, Merrill. I think that was you. Unbelievable. Don't get mad at me if I got that wrong, Meryl. I think that was you. But you're talking about this disconnect between the elites and their very, let's call them boutique issues, and the rest of the base of the Republican Party. governance issues being pushed through corporate America. They're fine with equity where we're not going to have equality. We're going to have equity where we get equal outcomes. These people are all fine with that stuff. But where we come from or came from, this does not work for the average American. So that disconnect is real. And can I make another point on the polling, Rachel? Michigan is a... So what states are going to make up the map in 2024? Pretty simple.

Wisconsin, which I have to name first because I'm from Wisconsin, but Michigan, Pennsylvania, possibly North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, and possibly Nevada. That's what the map, the really contested states are going to be. And one of the kind of the purple but blue states is Michigan. Okay. Donald Trump's up by 10 points in Michigan. What? I didn't see that number. He's up by 10 points. And this is what surprised me. Georgia is usually a lot more Republican than Michigan. Donald Trump's only up by four in Georgia. Now, I think maybe this EV push might have something to do with it, and the radical leftist governor who they're getting sick of might have something to do with it. But Michigan and Wisconsin, Minnesota, I don't like to claim Minnesota,

but there's a similar mentality, these lake states. Well, they're the Rust Belt, right? And you're right, there's the EV issue that's burning. Also, if you remember, Sean, just in the last last couple months it doesn't really burn it what does it do it zaps yeah sorry about that um that's okay the um there was also an issue about the chinese um but you know with their battery um their battery companies coming to michigan which was you know a lot of these people in the towns were like, what? And also the buying up of farmland. So there's a China plane in Michigan that, especially in the rural parts, and everyone knows Donald Trump is tough on China. And so if you care

about American manufacturing and industrial sectors, you have to care about that. But I want to bring up one point because the case that Nikki Haley... Don't leave Michigan. Go ahead. So, Dearborn, Michigan has a lot of Arab Americans. Yeah. The largest population of Arab Americans in the country. And so, think what you want... That's where Rashida Tlaib is from. Yeah. So, think what you want on the issue of Hamas and Israel. I fall on the side of Israel. I fall on the side of America, Sean. So do I. But if I'm taking, I was picking sides between those two.

I know, but that's what I hate about this whole issue. Yeah. Okay, go ahead. But the issue here is they're Manitoba. Yeah, they are. And that's where you see the administration being, oh, they don't know what to do. Can't be half pregnant. Pick a side, Joe. You got to pick a side. You can't play it both ways. And by the way, a lot of the Muslim community in Michigan is leaving Joe Biden. Do they go to Donald

Trump? I don't know. But they may just stay home and not vote for Trump, which is why I also think he's up by 10 points. I just want to get that in there. No, I think it's a real important point. I didn't know about that Michigan was that barred for Trump. So that's a big number. That's got to be scaring the heck out of the Biden camp. Before we talk about the Biden camp and move on to our next subject, I want to just hit on this Nikki Haley thing.

We talked about a little bit on Fox and Friends. Will Pete and I were talking and I brought up the point about Nikki Haley and the case that Nikki Haley is making on the campaign trail. And what she's saying is because nobody wants to go say anything negative about Trump. DeSantis tried that didn't work out very well for him. People love Trump. People see Trump under fire and under attack by our own government in a way that we've never seen before. And so it doesn't work well. So what Nikki Haley is saying is Trump was great and Trump was the right man at the right hour back in 2016. But for whatever reason, chaos surrounds Trump. And he's a chaos candidate, which harkened back to the Jeb Bush days. You remember that? I was wondering when she was saying that, I was like, it's actually very on brand for Nikki Haley to use a Jeb Bush

line. And so she's saying, I can do those policies, but without the chaos. And the point that I made with my colleagues, I'm making with you, Sean, is that the chaos is a symbol of disruption. And so Donald Trump is not the chaos. Donald Trump is not the chaos. The chaos comes to him because he is a threat to the system in a way that Nikki Haley isn't. And so when you think about the whole the whole way our government was upended over a hoax called Russia hoax that Hillary Clinton rushed that collusion that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and our intelligence state put into motion, that chaos was caused by them, not by Donald Trump. You look at the impeachment one impeachment to look at all of this even january 6th uh in many ways that you know there's there were feds involved in that protest um in many aspects uh created the situation that we have right now so my point is nikki haley yeah no chaos because she does not disrupt

the apple cart we'll have more of this conversation after this. Fox News Radio on demand on the Fox News app. Download the app and just click listen. When you swipe left, you can listen to your favorite Fox News talk shows live. Swipe right for the latest Fox News Radio newscasts on demand. Fox News Radio on the Fox News app. Download it today. Can I just bring up Joe Biden again? Yeah, I want to go back. These polls are really, really bad. His Joe Biden's approval rating, I think this was a CNN poll, had him at 37 percent, his lowest rating thus far. He keeps getting lower. And the question becomes, what are the Democrats going to do with Joe? What is the media going to do with Joe?

And the Democrats in the media are the same thing. But we have talked about this. I believe that Joe Biden is going to hang on for dear life because of Hunter's indictment. Joe Biden has been able to provide some Teflon, some protection for not just Hunter, but his brother, Jim Biden, but also Joe Biden himself. You look at the politics that have been played by the FBI and the DOJ. Joe Biden himself, you look at the politics that have been played by the FBI and the DOJ, the charges that came in California on tax evasion, but the gun charges were in Delaware. And you remember the deal that the DOJ struck with Hunter Biden was that he would plead to misdemeanor tax evasion charges for not paying millions of dollars on taxes, millions of dollars,

and a deferred prosecution agreement on the gun charge. And the judge questioned the deal. And in it, it said basically no other charges on any other issues are going to come for Hunter Biden. But when asked the question, the Department of Justice, even though it was written in a deal that they put together, were like, no, no, no, we're not saying he can't be prosecuted for anything else. Remember, there was a lot of press at that time because the IRS whistleblower had come out. Didn't the judge say that she didn't let that stand? Well, she wanted to clarify it.

And the DOJ then said, that's not the deal. That's right. That's how it went down. Yeah. So you see the protection. Joe Biden will lose all of that protection if he's not the president. Yeah. And therefore, to protect his family and his crooked deeds, or alleged crooked deeds, I

should say, is he needs to run for re-election. The problem is Democrats are getting very nervous that Donald Trump will be Joe Biden. And even though Joe Biden may want to stay, he may fight to stay, if the media flips on him and the Democrat Party flips on him and they start telling the stories about the corruption, about the laptop, about the $200,000 payment from Jim Biden to Joe Biden, which, by the way, if you have a sibling that doesn't make a lot of money and that the rich sibling is lending money to the poor sibling, that doesn't make any sense. And Joe was making, what, $250,000 a year? And his brother Jim was making millions. And to think that Joe would be lending money to Jim Biden, and then Jim is paying this $200,000 back to Joe, doesn't pass the smell test. There's no documents that show that this loan was made. And by the way, there's no canceled check that would show that Joe gave Jim $200,000 and this is a payback. So this is corrupt. And that's why, but by the way, the poll, I'm talking a long time here, but I do believe that we could get to the

point where the Democrats pull the ripcord, the media then pulls the ripcord and they start reporting on this, Joe Biden is out. And then you're left with the big problem, which is why Democrats have stuck with Joe for so long. Do you go with Kamala Harris, or do you go with Gavin Newsom? And the problem is you have the most reliable voting base in the Democrat Party is African-American women. You don't go with Kamala Harris, you lose those voters, but she's not a good candidate. Gavin Newsom, he's a liar, he's deceitful, he's slicky hair, but the dude's good. I mean, he can sell their policies better than anybody else. I think it's a great, I think it's a good analysis. I think a lot of people are

saying there's no way these trends continue in the economy and really in his mental decline, which I think is showing up in power and the power he wields as a president is the best protection as you so well laid out to keep hunter out of jail to keep jim out of jail and most importantly to keep himself out of jail frankly some of this stuff also taints jill biden um who has also received payment so we have all that going on. But we also have Jill Biden herself, who really wants to be first lady, really enjoyed being first lady. I have a theory, it's just a theory, Sean, that she was pretty slighted by Michelle Obama and made to feel less than in that White House. And it's no secret that Joe Biden, that Barack Obama didn't like Joe Biden. But I believe and I have other reasons to believe this. I have seen I've heard of other ways that Michelle Obama has treated other spouses and other women in the orbit of her husband's administration.

And I believe that Jill also received some of that. Nasty treatment. From what I understand, scorn, being treated less than, not really, given the kind of respect that you would hope. And so my point is that Jill Biden, now in power, will be damned if she's going to let Barack Obama in his mansion in Colorado, DC, where so many things are being cooked up.

Yeah. It's sort of the, the, the, the other white house on she'll be damned if they take them out of this position in this, you know, you know,

very ugly fashion. And so, but then I asked you today, Sean, I said, we're having coffee and this is what we have coffee and talk about. I said you today, Sean, I said, we're having coffee. This is what we have coffee and talk about. I said, well, Sean, if he really wants to stay, then he gets to stay. If Jill Biden insists that we're going to do this, and she is the one who insisted

they're going to run and could have taken her husband out, you know. To pasture? Yes. Years ago, during the last campaign, when it was very clear he was not up for the job she insisted on him staying there i think in a very evil fashion and we've had a whole podcast about why i think it's evil and not a good spouse who loves her husband who would allow her husband to do this why can't she just stay there and and joe stay there because they want to protect the family and she wants to um in many ways, you know, prove herself to, you know, get back at Michelle Obama. And you said basically that the intelligence community would come after him and say, we've got this on you. We've got more stuff on you. We'll make sure to leak this out unless you step out. And by the way, you'll be less of less interest on out of power in terms of your legal problems than if you're in power. Republicans and prosecutors might let you go right off into the sunset and not prosecute you.

Which is what happened with Hillary Clinton. You made me think of something very interesting, which is that we suspect that Barack Obama is the shadow president. And he would not be the shadow president with Kamala Harris or with Gavin Newsom. Why do you say that? I think they could manipulate Kamala Harris. I think none of them are of the mental stature of Joe Biden. Right. Right.

They're going to try to run their own White House. Joe Biden can't run his own White House. And so Barack Obama. House, Joe Biden can't run his own White House. And so Barack Obama... I would say that Joe with diminished mental capacities is still about equal to Kamala Harris. My point being, though, that Barack Obama loves this. He's out making millions of dollars, has a fat place on the beach in Hawaii and in Martha's Vineyard. He has his place in D.C. making huge money, and he's still running the country.

So I don't think that at this point, Barack Obama wants to see Joe go. That's his power play. He's still the president, right? And if someone else gets in, Barack Obama loses his power, and Barack Obama is still the kingmaker of the Democrat Party.

And it only comes to, if Barack comes to the point that Joe can't win. That's when the ripcord is pulled. They can't risk a Trump. Right. They can't risk a Trump. So only when they get down to the wire. Yeah. We can't risk the American people deciding this election. That's the way the Obamas think. Can I make one other point to you? This is the word. This is December of the election year. So we're 11 months away from the election. And you and I would see polling throughout

my congressional campaign. And these poll numbers are going to fluctuate. A lot of things can happen. So 37% today for Joe Biden doesn't mean that in October of 2024, that's what they're going to be. If the economy improves, if overseas wars improve, if Joe Biden decides to fix the border, that improves. If we get some changes in crime, the economy doesn't tank on us. Joe Biden's numbers are going to come up. The voter doesn't really solidify their perspective on a candidate until at early, it's probably August, but everyone's on vacation in August. So really, it's early September. People start to lock in on what they think about candidates. So a lot of time for this to change.

So Donald Trump should not be doing a jig, dancing that he's won anything right now because what I'm saying is in the primary, it's over. Oh, the primary is done. It's done. Wrap it up. Donors, stop wasting your money. Let's consolidate resources and go for the win. That's what needs to happen. Logger donors. Yeah, that's bad. Well, you know what? Sadly, a lot of those donors would rather

we lose than allow Donald Trump. They would rather Joe Biden win or whoever else they put in then let Donald Trump. And actually, that is why you need Donald Trump. He is such a threat to the system. He is somebody who is not bought and sold by anybody. He is his own man. He has a business intuition. He has great instincts. He took our amazing instincts. They cannot be underestimated. The way he took the party away from this sort of slavish, you know, following of free trade, even if it's screwing over our own people. he called out all the bullshit on the wars that we were in and the men and women we lost unnecessarily, the way he protected our monies, telling Europe to pay up and pay their share and stop expecting us to take care of their stuff so then they can spend it on social programs. Donald Trump's instincts are right on. You may not like his style, but nobody can say that this country wasn't better off in 2019. You and I were just talking the other day, and that's why what you said just now before

is so smart, that we never know what can happen, right? I can still remember in 2019 when it seemed impossible that he could lose because the economy was the best economy in 50 years and not for the rich not just for the rich but for the poor the their their wages were rising even faster than that then then the rich um the working class the middle class their wages were rising the most and it seemed impossible and then this crazy thing copen came along and it changed everything down the economy which is another possibility of what can happen so So just to put a period on the point that the race is over, I think a majority of Republican voters would rather lose with Trump than win with Nikki Haley. It's as simple as that. Say that one more time because that is really important because that's

something, yeah, that's fascinating.. The Republican voter would prefer to lose with Donald Trump than to win with Nikki Haley. Yeah, that's where they're at. So wrap up this primary. I know we're going to go through caucuses and primaries and but make no mistake, Donald Trump is going to win. We'll have more of this conversation after this. All right, let's move on to this, Rachel. You brought this to my attention. You guys did this story on the bottom line. Yeah, so Al Gore, some thought he rode off into the sunset. He did not. He's still- He's still making money.

The dude got rich, really rich. Like crazy rich. Back of walking climate change. And his couple of movies, one, The Inconvenient Truth, which we watched, by the way. And just to be honest, it scared the hell out of me. It did to me. It did to me. I'm more susceptible.

But how they present this stuff, and then later on, you're like, these are all lies. And all the predictions didn't come true, but COP28 just ended. That's the global meeting through the UN. It was in Dubai where they all get together to talk about what are the new policies?

How are we going to come to some agreements to cut greenhouse gases, to save the world from increasing by 1.5 degrees? And they do that by flying in on private jets and then they all ate meat. That's the best part. We want you guys to eat bugs. But even at the meeting,

they couldn't bring themselves to eat vegetarian. Not bugs. Hamburgers, steaks. They had sliders. They had smash burgers, Sean. And they had some other sort of beef dish. It was unbelievable. But Al Gore knows how to razzle dazzle and scare the pants off of people or try at least let's take a listen to what he said on cnn state of the union uh this last sunday watch there's a mental health crisis

around the world jake that we hear people talking about i think that one of the main reasons for that uh is that young people look at the fact that we are not yet solving the climate crisis. I haven't walked outside yet today, to be honest. I've been in my kitchen, in my bedroom, here in our home studio. But I'm not seeing rain bombs and the earth sucking out the water. I mean, I just, the whole thing is so insane. And you're right. He's gotten very rich. Trapping as much extra heat as would be released by 600,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the earth.

This is the stupidity with which these people just blatantly lie to us this is and but they're causing real alarm now he's saying the mental health crisis is because we're not doing anything about these hiroshima atomic bombs because you're getting stressed out yeah but really he's stressing the kids out we did do a story once on fox and friends about all these young kids who don't want to have children anymore because they actually think that you know it's it's bad for the environment and and and actually that it's virtuous of them to not want to you know sort of pollute the earth with other human beings I mean this is such a sick anti-human mentality I would just add Sean that Al Gore is quite possibly and that's the problem with so

many of these masters of the universe, if you will, you know, Bill Gates, Al Gore, John Kerry, Klaus Schwab, George Soros. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. These people are truly weirdos. I mean, Al Gore, that weird massage situation that he was in, do you remember about that? I am telling you, these are some of the sickest, weirdest, half the people that are trying to run your life in this way through these globalist institutions have been on Epstein Island. These are weirdos. And we have to step, step i mean we're really at a critical juncture in this in this world right now where the reasons sociopaths with the creepiest lives on and sex habits are now trying to run our world and because they have money and because they've cornered markets on

god bless you honey um with 400 markets on on environmental bless you, honey, they've cornered markets on environmental green, big green grift. A lot of them are very wealthy. And if we don't stop them, we will become their subjects. First, I just want to comment out my dedication to the kitchen table. I'm hacking and seesawing. You are, I love it. But you're right.

They're a bunch of weirdos. Yes. And I want to, again, so again, this is fear-based. You mentioned these young people who don't want to have kids. That's because if you look at the public school system, since from the point they enter it, kindergarten or pre-K, all the way through it, they're fed this fear with your tax dollars in the school system.

And that's why these kids are so frightened because they rely on you to tell them the truth. And the school system gives them these lies and promotes this fear, which is why they then are like, I don't want to have kids. And that's why we need all these radical policies to save the earth, which the earth is just fine. But I want to talk about something else because at COP 28, I get in Dubai. which the earth is just fine. But I'm going to talk about something else because at COP28, I get in Dubai, there was a conversation where they wanted to get agreement

on phasing out of fossil fuels. So at COP28, you have global leaders, you have rich businessmen all coming together. And think of what the world looks like if they actually phase out fossil fuels. I mean, they talk about 15 minutes. You will be a walker. You will be a bike rider, but you will not be on planes.

You will not be in cars. The heat in your house will be very much diminished. Even the jackets that we wear, the clothes that we wear, the plastics that are in everything will be impacted with a phase out of fossil fuels. And it begs the question, Democrats who talk, by the way, are the big promoters of this stuff. They're the ones that talk about democracy all the time. When did we ever have a vote on whether America should phase out fossil fuels? I would love to have that debate. That should be a real debate that we should have as a country. And what I think is even better than that is if you're not going to let us have a debate

about it or a vote on it, I have a better idea. Let's just do some trial balloons. Let California phase out fossil fuels. Just California. Take out fossil fuels. No fossil fuels can come in to their state, whether it's in plastics or clothing or jackets. Or gasoline. Gasoline for their cars or for their home.

Cut them off. I know that Ireland, my home, the land of my forefathers, not my homeland, Wisconsin is my homeland, but they also want to do the same thing. Well, get that little rock of an island and go, you guys cut off your fossil fuels as well. And let's see, let's all watch how it goes

and the kind of life that they lead with zero fossil fuels. And let us make a decision do we actually want that and i guarantee you that every single american probably anyone alive might also go not not at all i want fossil fuels well because nothing has led you know it's one of the main reasons why we see the prosperity we see in the world we need energy um to live to prosper um it make life more enjoyable it is It is the bedrock of modern life. These people are raging a war on modern life.

But it is a futile life. They will, just as they do at COP28 in Dubai, they will still fly. They will still eat meat. They will still have mansions on the beaches, on the waters that they claim are rising and causing flooding. They will do all of these things, and they will control all of us where we can't do these things. And I think your point is so good. These people are constantly talking about restoring democracy and what a threat to democracy Donald Trump is. These are the people who are part of these globalist international organizations, the UN, the World Economic

Forum, all of these international, you know, transnational organizations, that they know that if they did put these things up for vote, they could not get these things done. And the way they do it is through these treaties and through liberal politicians who then, through the administrative state, bring in regulation that do what they can't do through a vote. And it's really, really dangerous. It's a serious thing. Do not let these psychopaths, do not let these sociopaths, do not let these weirdos run our lives.

We are free. We are not slaves. And they should not be able to tell us what to do. We need to mock these systems, these conferences. We need to mock them. We need to also work towards making sure that our government is not beholden to treaties with the World Health Organization, with the UN and with the World Economic Forum, because these are very dangerous institutions. So just one other point on this as well. One of the car companies that are most invested in EVs is Ford. I believe last year they lost $4 billion on their EVs. And we've heard a lot of stories. You've done them on Fox and Friends. I've done them on the bottom line,

which is on Fox Business at 6 p.m. Eastern Monday through Friday. Laugh. That's a good plug. It was a good plug. Thank you. You ought to tune in. If you're watching Brett Baer, you're not watching Sean.

That's right. Sean and Dagan at 6 p.m. But my point is, a lot of the car dealers have been complaining because they are truly on the front line trying to sell cars to consumers. And the gas, the combustion engine vehicles are selling like hotcakes. And the EVs are stuck on their lots, oftentimes 90, 120 days, way longer than the gas vehicles. So this just came out. I believe it was in the Detroit News. It says that Ford, again, the most invested in EVs, is going to be cutting their F-150 Lightning production by 50%.

Is that their EV car? That's their EV Ford F-150. It's the EV Ford F-150 because people don't want them. Yeah, of course not. And so if that's an indication to this administration, why would you be talking about getting rid of fossil fuels when we don't even want an EV that runs on oftentimes fossil fuels, but by way of electricity? We want gas. We want their freedom of the fuel we put in our car to travel wherever we want without you tracking us and be able to turn our car off.

Kill switches. With kill switches that they're trying to do. And by the way, there's not enough stations. It's very expensive. But you know what else? I just don't want any of the chit-chat stuff where they can track my mileage. Track me. Al Gore is buh-bye.

He's insane. Okay, I want to quickly get to this story. It's really interesting. Let me give you the name of the woman who wrote it in case you want to read the article yourself. I thought it was interesting. It's an essay by Melissa Persling. As I said, it was for insider.com, but Fox News covered it as well. And it's just a story. I mean, so she's like 38 years old. She, you know, had been in other relationships, but in all of those relationships in her twenties and in her early and mid thirties, she had, you know had been in other relationships but in all of those relationships in her 20s and in her

early and mid-30s she had you know gotten into this idea that you know i don't want to have kids and that's just not for me and of course we know this is permeates through the culture um in the same way that the whole climate fanaticism um is indoctrinated into young kids. And so anyway, she ends up meeting this guy from Canada. And all of a sudden, and they kind of meet online. And they realize that they really like each other. They have a lot in common. Also, he's very family oriented. And she announces somehow in their exchanges that she does not want to have kids., exchanges that, you know, she does not want to have kids.

And he's like, listen, I definitely do want to have kids. I don't want to be an old dad. And then lo and behold, they end up meeting and finding a way to meet in person like a lot of people who meet online do. And they had a great, you know, few days together getting to know each other. And but over time, he ends up, and it's a complicated story, but he ends up ghosting her. I mean, not responding to her. Not responding to her. It basically

cuts everything off. This is kind of a new thing, guys, too. They just kind of go... We actually had that back when I was... There was no ghosting back. You couldn't escape. You couldn't escape me. I couldn't ghost. You couldn't ghost me. So they just kind of lose communication. And she's devastated. But in addition to the feelings of... You couldn't have ghost. I couldn't ghost her. You couldn't ghost me. So they just had a loose communication, and she's devastated. But in addition to the feelings of... You couldn't have ghosted me, though.

I did a little bit. I did a little bit. We did have it. But even that didn't work. This is good. Okay. So if you want more on that love story and how it actually turned out between Sean and I, we have a whole episode on that.

We have a podcast on that. You can go back to our library and find that episode. But in addition to dealing with the hurt feelings of, you know, being hurt and rejected, which, you know, happens in relationships.

She also had to deal with the fact that now she's almost 40. And what this guy brought forth in her beyond her, you know, these feelings of liking him and thinking she wants to be in a relationship is she realized, oh my gosh, I actually did want to have a child with this guy. And I've actually maybe changed my mind on this idea of not having children. And I think a lot of women, I think the story hit a nerve for a reason, because there's a lot of women like her who thought they didn't want kids and thought that wasn't important and were just sort of living their best life as single women. And it can be fun. And there's a lot of disposable income for single women these days. wake up at 38 or 40 or even 45 and realize that they actually did want to have children and have a lot of regret for not having started earlier. In some cases, that means they can only have one

kid. In some cases, it means they can't have any children. And so that is, I think, and I think it's a lesson for a lot of 20-year-olds who are now in that moment and maybe thinking, I don't want to have kids. I want to enjoy my life. I want to do this. And I think that the world, our culture presents this as you have this binary choice. You can be independent and have fun, or you can have kids and your life is over and you lose all your freedom. And I just think it's a misunderstanding of what happiness and freedom really means. Well, and this is also a newer phenomenon, this push to not have families, not have kids, you know, girl bossing. And I think it's really hard for young girls to go, well, how does this play out, you know, when I'm 30, 40, 60, 80?

I want to look at other women who've made, a lot of them who've made these choices, and are they happy? And if I can ask them if they're happy, I'd love to hear their answer. But also, I want to look at their life and go, is that something that I want? Do I want to live my life like that?

But also then look at the people who've made a choice to have a family, to have kids. And I think that would be really instructive for young men and young women. But because this is so new, I do think that it seems really sexy to save the planet, not have any kids and get lattes on Saturday morning. And do yoga whenever you want and take care of only yourself. And I bet that they are very fit and I'm sure there's all that kind of stuff. But in the end what really matters i mean i

saw an interview once sean with mitch mcconnell's wife um the former transportation secretary i'm trying to remember her name the true uh elaine chao boom look at that good sean's good and it was one of the most honest i mean she's not a super emotive person um she's very sort of frank and and matter of fact, kind of lady. And she talked about all the wonderful things that she'd accomplished in her life. And she's a very devoted daughter, takes care of her father. And I don't know if her mother's still alive. But in any case, she was very frank.

I made a mistake. I didn't think about kids. I didn't think that would matter. I just kept go, go, go on my career and have a didn't think about kids. I didn't think that would matter. I just kept go, go, go on my career and have a lot of regret about it. You don't often hear such frank talk, especially from women in such vaunted positions, because we do, you know, hold women who have those kinds of positions in society and in our government on a pedestal. But in the end, you know, you don't, you know,

one of the things about being young, Sean, is it's really hard to project into the future. I remember thinking that, you know, a guy that I had a crush on when I was 19, who was 24, was really old. You know, I thought he was, he might even be too old for me, you know, like that's just so old.

And then I remember thinking, you know, in my 20s that people in their 40s were ancient you know and you know it doesn't take very long before you're that age too and before you start to have you just can't think about when you're 20 you can never think about the idea that maybe i want grandchildren but guess what you don't get to have grandchildren unless you actually have children. So I think that it's hard for young women to think that far in advance. And that's why I think your advice is a really good one, that if you're young, to really encourage young women to force themselves, because it's hard because you live in the moment when you're young, to fast forward 10, 20, 30 decades, start looking at women and what their lives look like at 50, at 60, and 70. And you might be one of those people that goes, I'll be dead by then. Guess

what? You won't. You'll be alive and you'll have to live with all of the decisions that you made or didn't make in your 20s and in your 30s so i think it's important um i we have a lot of friends um and family that have not that don't have kids yeah they've made that choice absolutely and and some have not made that choice that's just how sadly biology worked out right and i think what's important to note is that if if you have a thoughtful uh reflection upon what's right for me in my life and me and my husband, and you come to the conclusion that, you know what, this isn't right for us, okay, we're proponents, we sell it, but we respect that. But on the flip side,

don't get sold on it. Don't think that you're going to get something that you're not. Don't buy the lie that the left is trying to sell you. Truly think about it, analyze it, look at people that are older than you and the decisions they've made and the lives they have and how happy they are. And then after that, go, what do I want? And I think that'll help you craft a better decision for yourself. And I think by nine times out of 10, you'll come and go, you know what? Families are kind of fun. Kids are kind of cool. I can only only tell you that i think it's much deeper there's a few saturdays i wouldn't mind just i say that i see the dink videos i see the the dual income no kids videos and there are like i would like to be a dink one day a month i think i would be happy one day the problem is like three days a month maybe that's maybe i one is fine. If I just had one, I would be fine. We can do two.

You do one, I do one, and we'll be happy. But here's the problem. You have 30 more days of the month, and you have 30 more years ahead of you. And the thing I also, I think it's really deep, Sean, because I do think that for a lot of young people, they have experienced trauma, divorce, pain. And so maybe it's hard to get past some of that stuff to see that it can be a beautiful, fulfilling thing. And I'm not, I am not discounting that. I am in no way minimizing that.

Everybody has their own journey. I, you know, I have an aunt that never got married, and I was like her child, really, in many ways. And I have nothing but respect for that woman. She's now passed on, and it's painful for me to even talk about it. But she was a wonderful person, and that was the decision she made for her life. And she did it because, actually, frankly, she wanted to be closer to God. It was a religious decision she made. But that said, I do think your point, there is an ideology called feminism that is actually based on Marxism. And I think this is what we really need to make sure we're driving home here. sure we're driving home here. Feminism is not about female empowerment. Feminism is about Marxism and it's about abortion. Um, and for a lot of reasons, and you can go deep into it. There's a great book called end of woman. Um, that is fantastic. Um, we've had the author on our show, Carrie grass on that kind of goes deeper into, into that. We should probably have her on

the show to talk about at some point. But this is an ideology. And so you've got to get past the ideology and really look at the outcomes and decide for yourself. But don't buy into the Barbie stories or the Miley Cyrus song about, I can hold my own hand, I can buy myself flowers. Don't buy into the culture that's telling you something. Really dig deep and beyond the ideologies to how it will affect you. My hand is not as much fun to hold as Rachel's. Let's put that out there. I think your hand is really nice to hold.

But I don't want to hold it myself. No, I don't want to hold my own hand either. And I don't want to take myself dancing. And I don't want to buy myself flowers. There you go. And by the way, yeah, Miley Cyrus. So I think this is three really good topics. I love this conversation. I think it's a really important one.

And we talk about variations of this a lot because it is so important, I think, for human happiness, for human fulfillment. And I love that you found this story and picked this topic. For those of you who are watching, I appreciate you letting me, I've got my Kleenex right next to the,

actually that is realizes- He's been my cleanup right next to the, actually, that is, he's been sniffling right through this. They're on camera, all, all podcasts. Do you think my voice is sexier like this?

It is a little sexier, yeah. It's not very kissable because you're kind of sick. I'm sick, we can't kiss. But your voice is great. We haven't kissed

for days and days because we've been sick. But anyway, all right. Thank you all for joining us at the Kitchen Table, the podcast. We appreciate it.

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